/smtg/ - Shin Megami Tensei General

Lilith deserves to win, at least once.

Disprove that law is the best alignment.

You can't.

>Chimp OP
Disgusting.

Devil
Summoner
Soul
Hackers

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why is law hero so cute

>>100322927
Because your taste is shit. Hero is cutest SMT I.

>>100322927
The new design maybe. In the original art he's slinging a machine gun over his shoulder and has like 3 different guns and knives attached to his legs

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>>100323146
this dude is still a hunk though

>>100323250
He looks like a lesbian.

>>100322927
Because you're a faggot and you want to steal him away from his pure loving girlfriend you piece of shit

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>>100322927
Are you sure about that?

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>>100323250
Screw alignments and factions, I'm willing to bet that 95% of all ass kickings this guy gets are for wearing his pants so damn high. Even I want to fuck him up.

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>>100325124
>Alignments dictating whether or not you get bullied
at least you cant get this bad

>>100325308
How did they go from such a shit like Chaos Hero to Walter? I mean he's retarded but somehow it only adds to his charm.

>>100325562
Toned down the school shooter overtones.

>>100325308
post the original chaos hero art

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>>100325876
they really did didn't they
>>100325884

>>100326008
At least he's ready to fuck shit up here.

>a submachine gun AND a shotgun
>AND a sword

>>100326008
Looks like a Columbine shooter.

>>100326008
Is that a knife taped to the grip of the shotgun

>>100326124
No, that's the end of his sword.

>>100326008
He really does look like a school shooter. No wonder that faggot got bullied.

>>100324753
luw hro

>>100326008
God, this guy is so cool. Superb shotgun taste.

>>100326306
They were probably going after that audience.

>>100326553
>God, this guy is so cool.
Yeah, he looks like a supreme gentleman.

>>100326729
If you don't think that Chaos Hero is the illest shit then get out of my face

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>>100326124
>>100326306
I was tempted to say...

>>100327387
did you just make that

>>100326685
School shootings don't exist in Japan retard.

>>100327243
He'd be great if he got a better fashion sense and wasn't a bitch made faggot. Just look at Walter.

>>100327387
Saved.

>>100327432
yes

>>100327549
cool

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>>100327536
>Just look at Walter.
Not quite sure what you mean. Not everyone can be a Luxuror who can afford to wear more than Milsurp.

>>100327752
The samurai outfit is slick as fuck. If Chaos Hero dressed half as well he wouldn't look like a fag at least.

>>100327832
>he wouldn't look like a fag
>He says, comparing him to a faggot with long hair and extra tight pants

>>100328015
Wrong kind of faggot, m8.

>>100328101
...I do not comprehend.

>>100322927
Why is there a triforce on his hat?

>>100328208
One of them does not look like an insufferable beta faggot, despite arguably looking like a huge homosexual.

>>100328407
It's a Zelda reference, obviously!

>>100328434
Woah, ok there Mr. Alpha male.

>>100328838
You aren't going to defend that coat, are you? It doesn't take an alpha male to figure out that he looks like a dweeb.

>>100329005
It's milsurp, maybe he's poor from being bullied for lunch money all the time.

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>>100328434
demi chaos hero does have redeemable armour

Hes still a huge fucking idiot faggot though
>>100328407
who knows

>>100328557
No man it's a Hojo reference

>People have no sympathy for Chaos Hero
Fucking normans

>>100330609
he was a huge weakling who got picked on and once he started to get power he went off the deep end
"W-we're going to get back at all the people who ever bullied us..... heh.. hehe heheheHAHAHA" etc. etc.

I bet he never got picked to play dodgeball in gym class

>>100330775
Japs don't have gym class retard they have katana class, jesus fuck

>>100330609
Law hero had a cool coat and a gf
also a cool ass revolver

chaos hero has a bad trenchcoat and no gf
also a lame mp5

>>100331652
>Law hero had a cool coat and a gf
Yeah then his GF died and and then he died like a bitch in 1 shot

>>100331652
>also a lame mp5
You're forgetting the Spas-12 you casual piece of SHIT.

*is a piece of shit*

>>100334183
>*actions*
Go to bed, piece of shit.

In Raidou 2 for Fiend fusion, does the gem value have to be above but not including 65000 to fuse Pale Rider? Because I gave him a turquoise, a garnet, and a diamond which adds up to 65000 even and ended up with Red Rider anyway, and if that's not the problem then I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

>>100336704
You are still likely to get lesser fiends unless you have them in your tubes.

This includes Evil and the Slime demons.

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Would anybody here be interested in seeing a video series about the mythological origins of demons and their designs? If so leave a suggestion for a demon you'd like to see

>>100340391
The entire Amesha Spentas + Verethragna.

They were all in DemiKids and some in P2 and Ronde, while Vereth was in Spiral Nemesis and Persona.

>>100340391
Depends on how in depth

>>100340391
I'd be incredibly interested, but have no specific requests

Peaceful days are over

Let's survive

I like Heat.

>>100348801
Gays tend to.

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>>100348949

>>100340391
Otome game starring hero when?

>>100351502
Never because Atlus hates both Hero and Aleph.

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Remake when

>>100351917
but hero is the greatest human smt
Raidou is cool too

>>100351502
Think of what smt x FE could have been...

>>100354459
Metaphysically never.

>>100355526
we got an iOS port

at least they remember

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>>100354459
The chances were on the DS now there is no chance for a remake.

Are the JP Imagine servers still active? Is the game worth checking out? I understand moonrunes, so that's not an issue.

>>100355608
Id generally prefer that over the devil summoner games, they're just too weeb for me

Disgusting OP.

>>100355769
do you mean devil survivor?

>>100331790
Law Hero died to save them, eat shit asshole.

>>100355717
Yes, maybe.

>>100340391

Maybe start with some of the bigger ones like Lucifer, Vishnu, Loki, Jack Frost, etc.

>>100354459

Imagine a full 3D remake of SMT 1 and 2. I would love that.

>>100358447
>Imagine a full 3D remake of SMT 1 and 2.

I already played IMAGINE.

posting this for whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bafky2elDno

>>100355717
It's active. If only the English servers had had even half the amount of the events.

If you like the grinding aspect for macca, equipment and levels plus meticulously planning out your bling and demons, why not?

>>100327514
School massacres do, weeb.

>>100354459
Never. Hero is top pretty/best MC for this world.

>>100360465
How's the latency?

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>>100360465

I wish the english servers had gotten half the content.

>>100365028
I wish they were still up.

>>100361319
Is Nevada-tan based off Chaos Hero?

>>100366606
Other way around

>>100365028
Yeah. I meant that. The works: events and content like that hot virtual paper doll technology and razzle dazzle music of our lord Mara.

>>100366606
>Nevada-tan is probably free now

Found videos of the DeSu2 pachinko machine. Kind of neat, but I don't understand panchinko at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fzViSJaqMU

It's interesting to note that the clips aren't from the anime.

>>100367214
She's been out since like 2011

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guys wake up

>>100370718
Let me sleep please.

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>>100370718
You should bring something to discuss instead of just screaming "wakw up!".

Like what is your favorite Megaten.

>>100371351
Do you mean megaten as in game or as in demon

>>100371619
Game.

With an image sketch if posible.

SMT Break Record hype, yurobros
>It's confirmed! We are bringing 4 more titles to Europe, dood!

Dungeon Travelers 2: The Royal Library & the Monster Sea - Fall 2015
Etrian Mystery Dungeon - Fall 2015
Shin Megami Sensei Devil Survivor 2: Record Breaker - Fall 2015
Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold: The Fafnir Knight - Early 2016

All games will have a physical and digital release. More information coming soon!

source: NISA in yurop facebook.

>>100372386
grats, faggots

What's Dungeon Travellers?

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>>100371720
I like SMTI. I can't draw but here's a sketch someone else did.

>>100372530
Some game for the Vita, don't know anything about it though.

So I restarted DeSu overclocked after forgetting where I was in the story.

Going with a magic instead of strength build this time. Should I be trying to get resist physical by a certain chapter/fight?

>>100372530
Some fanservice Leaf (VN dev) dungeon crawler trash.

>>100372569
Saved.

>>100372386
>those release dates

Oh shit, I'm sorry.

>>100372641
>>100372656
Right after I asked, I saw a YouTube notification for it. Did not care enough to watch, just saw anime girls.

>>100372713
Better than Overclocked and SMT4. There's hopes for no bugs and we even get retail versions. I don't care about the extra stuff.

>>100372917
Still, they're coming out 6 months later than the US releases

You're right though, it's no SMTIV. That was just embarrassing.

>>100360465
So the game is a huge time sink with grinding? Guess not then, I don't have too much time on my hand. Can you even progress solo too?

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>>100372828
god fucking dammit, its to heart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Heart_2:_Dungeon_Travelers

>>100374209
>To Heart : Cuck edition

>>100374138
What exactly were you expecting from a MMO?

>>100374138
Isn't that what most MMORPGs are about?

Anyway if you can't handle the grind, you can always bribe your way to victory or better yet don't pick it up if you have a weak impulse control or gambling addiction. I've seen lots of lost souls eaten by F2P machine that way.

Soloing is doable. It depends on your build, equipment, demon and knowledge of demon weaknesses/resistances. Having a party with your buddy-buds makes the runs faster and more enjoyable.

>>100374138
If you're not looking for a time sink then look for a game that isn't an MMO. They're designed to hook you and waste your time so you can continue to feed the them cash.

Emergency bump!
Who's the most interesting girl in Devil Survivor 2?

No Yamoto allowed

>>100383339
Why bother? You cant even insinuate romatically to them.

At least DeSu 1 hooks us up with Yuzu or Haru.

>>100383339
>interesting
None of them. They're hot and it ends there. The most interesting characters are the ones that people talk about most, being Yamato, Ronaldo, Alcor.

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>>100383616
You're kidding, right?

>>100383737
When most people talk about Alcor isn't it just because he's a walking plot hole?

>>100383950
Perhaps, and a lot of people discuss Ronaldo because he incites negative emotions (however, unlikeable characters aren't always bad ones). None the less, they generate the most discussion because people obviously find those three interesting to talk about, especially Yamato.

Ronaldo is a terrorist

How much longer until BR releases anyway?

>>100387641
less than a month

Wake up.

>>100389498
But it's 4 pm.

>>100386261
And?

>>100390341
Yamamoto is best SMT.

>>100391065
the Steel-Willed?

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So, who else actually liked the english voices for SMT IV?

I didn't really like the japanese voices like I do for most games.

Reminder that Yamato wanted to turn everyone into the 80s guy from Futurama.

>>100392848
Not me.

>>100392848
They were pretty good. Walter's was probably best and Jonathan's was good most of the time. Isabeau sounded a little awkward sometimes though.

>>100393567
>Isabeau sounded a little awkward sometimes though.
You say that like it's a bad thing.

>>100393087
He wanted to give everyone boneitis?

>>100392848
I liked them.
>OH LOOK, A HUNTER

>>100383950
If you think Alcor is bad in that regard, wait until you find out about Miyako.
Everything surrounding her is a big mess. She's an unnecessary addition and nothing but a form of Yamato wank.
Adding her was a blunder and a big blow to the story.

>>100394114
It is. By awkward I don't mean she sounded like an awkward person, the way she would talk sounded forced and unnatural to me.

>>100394853
PARDONME

>>100394853
Maybe someone was fucking her ass while they were recording.

>>100394747
I still think Canopus conveniently getting everything right but gender is fucking stupid and have yet to hear anything that makes it better.

>>100396024
Yanhomo is gay

>>100395952
How unprofessional. But honestly as far as English dubs go, IV's was solid. The voice acting was mostly enjoyable and I never once considered turning it off.

Life is happiness.

>>100396445
They'd never have the balls to use that as the excuse. So unless they somehow surprise and come up with something very convincing, or really do have the balls to say he's gay and it caused an error when reading his corrupted data, then the whole "Canopus is incompetent and just-so-happened to get everything right but Yamato's gender" is extremely bad writing.

>>100396024
>getting everything but gender
Are you saying Yamato is half-alien?

>>100398272
Wasn't that part deliberate?

>>100397168
Can you blame them though? She has a pretty cute voice.

>>100398480
It's not really anything special.

>>100398272
How could she be half alien unless one of her parents are?

Is everything that was supposed to have happened in the third world before the reset just false, implanted memories and never actually happened?

Christ it's a mess.

>>100398614
I don't know man. She sounded pretty cute in Dragon's Crown.

>>100394747
how would they create the sequel without her though?

>>100398691
This is why Canopus can't be allowed to run the universe. It causes more errors just by trying to fix the current ones.

>>100399217
Just sounds like bad writing to me.

>>100398932
It would work just fine without her.
Just make it the second world, but have the MC around and everything with much higher stakes than Septentrione because Yamato had no warning or time to prepare, and really take advantage of Nicaea.
There you have it, BR already much better.
That reminds me though, the whole thing surrounding Arcturus and Yamato is fucking stupid.
He's suddenly able to come up with something to defeat it no problem when he gets Bunny back, and it would have worked if his Dragon Stream power was at full like it was in the past world.
And it's not even like he needed Bunny's power, because you just stand here doing nothing during the battle because he's the only one who can damage it, might as well not go out at all.

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>>100399368
Sounds like bad computer programming to me. There's no reason it can't be both.

>>100399721
wouldn't that just make it a rehash of the old story?

>>100400002
Triangulum is already a rehash of Septentrione, only with added over-the-top asspulls to justify Miyako.
I'd rather it be a rehash without the painfully retarded asspulls.

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>>100400210
I actually do like the Traingulum more and wish they showed them off better.

Seriously Denebola makes his entrance as the being that nearly killed them at the start instead of just some subway crash, the next one has mooks that pass on an immunity to an element the moment it's defeated by said element, and Arcturus is the Strongest!

>>100400543
They could have showed them off better if they weren't so focused on showing off asspulls.

>>100400780
I still like that even with the power to harm Arcturus, it was still so fucking tough that they'd all be dead before Yamato could finish it.

If only Miyako didn't show up to empower Yamato.

>>100400937
I was way more interested in learning what happened in the second world than I was with what was going on in the current.
Really would have preferred it to have taken place in the second and just have higher stakes in place of missing MC.

>>100401232
I do think they should have stuck with the Triangle angle and used Regulus instead of Cor Caroli. It misses the fucking point of it being the Triangulum if it's the Great Diamond.

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>>100372649
Please respond

>>100401850
You don't have to, but it might help.

>>100401850
Please die.

>>100399721
Is there even any way to add her without it being retarded? I can't think of anything.

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Do you think the translation of P2EP will allow us to import our save from american IS? I know normally that doesnt work because of regions but maybe Traduko Soft can allow that feature?

I want my Tatsuya to have the same name i used for him in IS for EP

>>100404520
The translation is never going to come out so don't worry.

Also it wouldn't even work anyway because that option was removed for the PSP versions

>>100404594
Oh i see too bad.

>>100404267
The only other way for them to have added her is keeping her as his sister and family heir backup, and turning Yamato into his flat-out villain anime self so she can replace his position.

And they would never:

1) Shit on his characterization and throw out all his character development like that. The anime did that and it did nothing but piss people off and I'm pretty sure Atlus is fully aware of it.
2) Do something like that to the most popular character. Keep in mind Miyako was only reconsidered because Yamato is so popular in the first place.

The game is better off without her, period. She should have stuck to being something mentioned in the artbook because he's a Gemini.

I like the sound of Break Record without her. Make it the world in the dreams/flashbacks and get some good use out of the death clip system.

Also, I kind of feel bad for Alcor fans. I dunno how they feel about his treatment in Break Record, but to me it felt like he became an even bigger idiot. You know how he's innocently alien-stupid but not incompetent in the original story? In the Triangulum arc he's off the charts brainless and problematic just to give Miyako something to do. I don't even like him but it bothered me.

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Why does Satan look like an alien anyways?

>>100400937
The Arcturus battle was so lazy and just served to start tension between Yamato and Miyako, and have Yamato realise his Dragon Stream power depleted.

It was really anti-climatic. I agree, I wish she didn't ruin that fight and they found some kind of creative way to kill it instead once he realised there was something wrong with how the Dragon Stream was channelling in him.

>>100408159
I don't get this comic

>>100408994
I assume it's based off of SMT 2. And I haven't played SMT 2 but I think it's just Satan relaxing and then Aleph just shoots him while he's reading the newspaper.

Today I finally finished everything megaten, including the non-translated game. I finished absolutely everything besides nokia-tier games.
My last game was Jack Bros, besides that I've played anything I could find.
What the fuck do I do now? Did I just finish life itself?

>>100409583
Play Maken X, Catherine, and EO

>>100409583
Branch out. Have you played Planescape:Torment?

>>100409583
Ritualistic suicide to summon demons. If Atlus won't make MegaTen fast enough to satisfy your needs, then you're going to have to pick up the slack yourself.

How would you rank the games you've played, out of curiosity?

>>100409583
Play other ATLUS games, Growlanser series are awesome.

>>100409583
You cannot escape your hunger. There is no other way to survive, warrior of SMTG....

So, I picked back up smtiv after a while. "Corpse Delivery Quest" is marked complete, when I go to Seat of Government the central room is empty. But I don't have an ID. What am I supposed to be doing?

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>>100343420
Depends on how much information about the demon there is really. Demons like Lucifer I could obviously make a several part video on since there's so much information to sort through.

>>100358447
I made sort of a prototype episode about Jack Frost you can check out here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xf-2sv6qgk

>>100409873
>>100409770
>>100409728
Might as well try, thank you

>>100409861
God tier: Nocturne, SMT 2,, Strange Journey
Good tier: SMT, KMT, DDS 1, SMT4, P3FES, DC: White book
OK tier: everything else
Shit tier: some of the Devil Children games, Ronde (for some reason I hated that piece of shit so much)

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>>100410874
I enjoyed it, it was nice and informative. I would like to see more.

>>100410874
Not bad. Where are you from? Your accent's familiar but I can't put my finger on it.

>>100409583
Did ya play Debisama?

>>100410874
You should do one for Pixie, given that she's probably second to Jack Frost in terms of popularity.

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>>100410874
Pretty good.

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>>100411376
I'm from New Orleans

>>100411281
>>100411720
>>100411794
Thanks everybody, I might do Pixie next then

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>>100412639
I'll be looking forward to it.

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How good is Strange Journey?

>>100413993
Second worst game after Nocturne.

>>100413993
Personally I think it's 3rd to Nocturne and IV, but I know generally people either rank SJ or Nocturne as their favorite. It's very good.

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>>100413993
No press turn is the only thing i can say it was bad in SJ. Demons dont learn new skills but when leveling up they give you something called Forma wich contains that demon skills to pass to the next fusion.

Great music, atmosphere and story. The dungeons are great if you are slightly sadistic.

>>100413993
I hope you like dungeon crawlers and sadistic maps, otherwise you're going to have a bad time, not in my case, I love both and SJ is one of my favorite SMT games.

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>SJ
>"A violinist of inhuman power who appears as a skeleton. He travels around Europe with the gypsies and plays his enchanting violin that causes people to dance the dance of death."

>IV
>"A violinist of inhuman power who appears as a skeleton. He travels around Europe with the Romani and plays his enchanting violin that causes people to dance the dance of death."

>>100413993
Almost as good as Nocturne.

>>100415568
David is lame.

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>Start Yamato's battle in Daichi's way
>Attack Yamato's party with Evil Flow boost
>Have Bunny punch out Remiel
>Python casts Megido twice because of Dual Shadow, killing Arioch and severely damaging Yamato
>Have Fumi take the kill

Killed him in three turns, a bit let down since they had made his Dragon Stream ability seems like such a big deal.

Did I do something wrong? I'm level 15 in SMT, without a single demon. I have over 10000 yen and 5000 magicite, with a crap ton of items, but no demon can stand my presence...

>>100418037
How high is your INT?

>>100418037
progress you fucking slag

>>100418037
Yes you did something very wrong. Now kill yourself son of man.

>>100415568
Fuck gypsies.

>>100418154
Not high at all. Aimed entirely for strength. >>100418203
I'm clear to the second city,going through the mall and preparing to fight Yumiko.
>>100418528
...really?

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>>100418779
Increase INT then and all shall be forgiven.

>>100417164
If you don't use Evil Flow he's hard, because the more demons you kill the faster he gets, then he uses double megi in every turn and shit like that.

In DeSu1 OC, what should my MC stats be for when fighting lucifer? I need to be level 99 also right or just around level 90?

>>100420895
why don't you try fighting him and see for yourself?

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>tfw you'll never be as cool as Ozawa

why even bother ;~;

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>>100421350
>you will never be as cool as Raidou
How does he do it?

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>>100421458
No, seriously, how does he do it?

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What does "burn my dread" even mean?

>>100422227
It means that they'll use their fear of death as motivation to finish their journey

>>100422227
To burn your dread.

>>100422227
they brunt their dreads

>>100422387
>>100422341

Is there art out there of P3MC with dreadlocks? There's gotta be. Preferably with him burning them.

What's the weirdest Engrish you've seen in a Megaten game?

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>>100408159
>>100409183
It's a glitch from SMTII. Instead of getting back at Aleph, reflected attacks would name some random demon for the damage (whether you had them in your party or not)

>>100408159
>>100424327
Top kek. Its amazing how context can change things so much.

Would you survive in a world of STR?

>>100367413
I find it funny that some random slot machine does a better job capturing the game than the anime did.

>>100425130

Fuck no

>>100404520
Something looks...off about Tatsuya and Jun in that image but I can't quite put my finger on it.

>>100359458
This was fucking strange

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>>100392848
I love the idea behind this, but god damn, that text is a mess.

>>100426502
Make it yourself then, gosh.

Goodnight

>>100427189
Wake up

>>100427189
Good night son of man.

>>100427314
I love you too, Betatron.

>>100422227
To overcome fear.

>>100426502
It adds to the charm. The only thing that gets me is Satan being treated like a chaosfag.

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so I just defeated Beelzebub on Raidou 1 but i'm only level 58 and I want to battle Alice before going onto Raidou 2. Anyone knows any good grinding places or am I stuck at the training hall?

>>100430453
Looks like you're gonna be stuck in that Training Hall pal and only go after Alice if you REALLY want her too. She isn't too useful the first Raidou.

>>100431283
I just want to beat all of the bosses that you can on a first playthrough before moving on. Guess I;m just gonna man up and grind the hall.

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>>100426801
I just might.

>>100425130
I'm getting there.

LIGHTWEIGHT BABY

>>100431463
You need NG+ tyo fight Raiho though.

>>100432238
I know but you can beat Alice though so i might as well do it.

>>100431612
>ain't capitalized
>adding in that stupid fucking ayy lmao bullshit fucking cunt fuck
BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD ASSHOLE.

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Is SMTII supposed to be this dark in some areas?

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>>100432591
>Implying Ain't Ain't supposed to be capitalized.
>Implying ayy lmao Ain't the dankest shit since Spurdo Sparde himself.

Do you even meme bro?

>>100432709
Yes

>>100431612
I tried fixing this a while back too and now I can't find it. ;_;

>>100432781
NO
O

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>reach final boss of Raidou 2 today
>its another giant fucking eyeball.
Shinado was a bitch ass nigger just like Ameno whatever. I didn't even get to see if it had any special attacks other than the eye beam thing because it died to Thunderbolts boosted with some passives before it could fly away a second time.
I was definitely over leveled. Anything on NG+ like the Raiho fight from the first game?

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>>100432867
I found it. No bully.

>>100433068
That's better.

>>100433064
Only if you're a Chaosfag.

>>100433064
Why is Alice such a cutie?

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>people hate smt now


why...

Who is the composer for SMTIV?

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>>100433143
>"ain't" capitalized.
>good

>>100433338
Meguro like always.

>>100433449
>Staying true to the original maymay is bad
Spurdo isn't supposed to use good grammar and syntax, buddy.

>>100433523
Nah, I don't think it's him

>>100433338
Ryota Koduka.

>>100433523
Nigga what?

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>>100433234
Because you're gay.

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>>100433064
If you were Chaos aligned you can do case files that let you fight the completely normal blonde young man that totally isn't Lucifer no sir.
He's a total bitch if you fuse strong ice attack users.
Do the other 99 case files and you can fight Masakado if you're current alignment is Neutral.
I know one case file requires you to be Law aligned if you didn't do it already.

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>>100433526
I'm not your buddy, pal.

>>100433886
You wanna go, mate?

>>100433607
What else did he compose?

>>100433571
>>100433607
It was a joke guys.

>>100433946
you kidding me? 1v1 me infernal tokyo noob, i will destroy you

>Want neutral in SMT IV
>Don't want to use a guide

This is suffering. First SMT with Law/Neutral/Chaos alignments too (only played Nocturne before) so I'm even more nervous.

>>100434749
>Not answering honestly for your first run
Faggot.

>>100434883
It's just that I heard that SMT IV makes its neutral ending harder to get than usual.

>>100408994
That's because it's half of a tumblr post, so you lose the context (which >>100424327 is correct about)

>>100435172
wow, geez. I never even heard of that glitch,

>>100409583
>Today I finally finished everything megaten, including the non-translated game.

Liar.

>>100409583
Liar, I bet you like YHVH.

So, How do I change my alignment in SJ?
I want to be aligned with chaos demons like lilim because lilim is hawt.
What's the benefit in neutral anyways?

>>100434918
You can always replay the game on Reincarnation NG+.

Night night.

>>100435378

Just answer dialogue choices like a chaosfag would and agree with Jimenez at every opportunity. Alternatively, if you're too late in the game to have many opportunities left to change your alignment, there's this trick I copypasted from http://smtsj.wikidot.com/cheat:

Complete the ex-mission #45 "I would like to build a Yosei town here (5)" (ここに妖精の街を作りたいの(5)) at Antoria (アントリア).
Now you can talk to a Goblin (ゴブリン) nearby about a hole digging event. About 1 out of 4 times, he will ask if you'd like to help him.
According to your answer, you stance will change. One answering alone may not be enough to twist you from very chaotic to very lawful, you may have to talk a few times to see the results.
You may adjust your stance this way as often as you like.

I found neutralfagging to be beneficial for demon recruitment because the cost is never as expensive as say, a chaosfag trying to recruit a law demon. Otherwise there's no real reason to be neutral besides this being your personal viewpoint.

>>100434918
It's not that difficult at all. But then again, I got it on my first run answering honestly.
You're going to need to lean to chaos/law at one point in order to get neutral and people try to stay neutral all the way through and get booted out.

>>100437301
Is there some big choice at the end that gives you a thousand law or chaos points with no neutral option or something, and if you're neutral at that point you get screwed?

>>100437640
yes

>walking through the Mantra base
>get attacked by two Tarakas
>I'm twelve levels above them and fought this party a dozen times before
>but it's a back attack
>Heat Wave, multiple criticals
>Heat Wave, multiple criticals
>Heat Wave, multiple criticals
>Heat Wave, multiple criticals
>Everyone in the party but Demi is dead.

Gee, playing Nocturne on Hard sure is fun. I still won the fight though.

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>>100425130

>>100437640
>>100437669

That's some seriously retarded ass shit. Wow.

>>100432097
You ought to be doing gymnastics. Get with the times gramps, a world of DEX is all the rage now.

>>100438838
Yeah, you're sure to kill those demons with your superior speed and agility

>>100438880
AND GUNS, FAGGOT

>>100438701
The main point of the games are chaos vs law. It's only natural that you will be faced with decisions that will boost your alignment several times throughout the story (especially before an alignment lock).

>>100438250
At least we're honest

>>100439303
I understand that not every situation can have a chaos, law and neutral response. That's fine. But that still fucking sucks that a person could get kicked off the neutral path and have no chance to recover because they had the audacity to be on the neutral path. Isn't that the obvious thing to do if you wanted the neutral end?

>>100441574
Its about time they fucked some newcomers onto a real ending. If you want a happy go lucky ending, then fuck off to one of the persona 4 spinoffs.

>>100441739
But neutral is the good ending

I like Heat.

>>100441739
Fucking up the world beyond repair isn't necessarily appealing to everybody who plays SMT, buddy. If you play SMT for the opportunity to be a psychopath that's cool I guess but different kinds of endings appeal to different people.

>>100443946
Does Heat like you?

>>100444209
I hope he does.

>>100444102
The white should've taught you that fucking up the world beyond repair is not possible.

>>100444234
I bet he doesn't.

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What kind of setting do you want to see in V? A continuation or prequel? Normal Tokyo or fucked up Tokyo? Human dominated or demon infested?

>>100446201
A prequel would be alright and an easy route to take. I'd be more interested in something new though where we can explore Tokyo for a bit before all hell breaks loose.

>>100446201
I wonder how big Masakado is during the fight.

>>100365902
Same. I'll miss those never-ending commercial ad shout spams and forum discussions from way back that repeated the message of: 'IMAGINE's doomed you guys, why are you still playing it?'.

Well, you can always do what the others did and join the JP server if you've still got the time and patience for it.

>>100421350
More like, you will never have a good enough fashion style like him.

>>100421563
I'm more impressed how he keeps his cool even when slipping on banana peels every time.

>>100446201
I honestly would prefer if they just made V its own thing with no direct story ties to any of the previous games outside of some cameos and offhanded references to fuck with the people who try to make comprehensive series timelines.

I just want to explore the apocalypse and talk to demons before I kill all my friends.

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Tell me about Steven

>>100449843
have you played an SMT or Fire Emblem game before in your life

>>100432709
No, try turning down your contrast.

>>100449938
He's not a demon.

Question: if I were to kill myself today, what would be the best way to do it to start a demon apocalypse and should I record it for /smtg/?

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>>100452161
Don't kill yourself

>>100452237
But I want to die. It's not like I'm pulling a white and dragging everyone down with me, or I guess I would be if I summoned demons, but that was a joke. Mostly. I think.

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>>100452353
>hero died for this

don't do it

>>100452478
But if I'm successful maybe some /smtg/ NEET will rise up, get a psychic girlfriend, save Tokyo, and die an anti-climatic death. I could make someone's life better.

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>>100452620
I could probably accomplish all that except get a gf

>>100452620
I'm already halfway to that goal!

Any tips for SMT IV master?

>>100453213
>>100454010
There we go, I can end my suffering and make someone's life more interesting.

>>100457741
git gud

>>100457741
Don't die

>>100457741
have 24 demons, use the broken buff that last forever and target everyone for minimal sp cost, get the negotiation apps so you can level by recruiting + fusing instead of fighting.

World of dex build with buffs and healing skills

>Chakra drops require both forma and macca to produce in SJ
4 recovery cores for these shits and they don't even restore enough MP for a War Cry, is MP management supposed to be a constant challenge throughout the game?

>>100438183
good job

>>100458628
Kind off. You can get an app for party wide mp recovery i think.

>>100458272
>use the broken buff that last forever and target everyone for minimal sp cost
Huh?

>>100458964
luster candy or something like that

>>100459271
I didn't know buffs could run out in SMT IV, or any MT for that matter.

>>100459321
Buffs don't have set durations in SMT IV.

>>100459321
sorry I meant to say that it gives you all 3 buffs at the same time, had 2 days with no sleep so i got it wrong

>>100458628
Healing stations are everywhere

>>100458272
>get the negotiation apps so you can level by recruiting + fusing instead of fighting.
Not him, but can you elaborate? I just started playing yesterday. Would that tactic require me to buy a vast amount of slots or should I just dismiss and recruit?

>>100461418
you can fuse or delete demons and just keep recruiting demons once you max the exp and the apps that makes demons joining you easier. This way you get more exp than by fighting enemies especially when the demons you recruit can chain recruit other demons.

>>100461880
I see, thanks.

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Hey, /smtg/ I have a question.
"The crossdressing guy" seems to be a running joke in the franchise (like the stepladder in PW), as far as I'm aware? There's one in every Persona game starting from Megami Ibunroku, the 'Male?' manikin in Asakusa, etc.
When did that one start?

>>100466047
It's a Japanese thing

>>100466047
Trannies are Japanese high comedy, same with faggots. Like that guy in SMT1, or the bearded attendants in the casinos in P1.

Should I play Devil Survivor 1 or 2? I tried 1 a few years back but didn't really dig the story, and quit despite liking the gameplay. Only have a DS, so the 3DS ports aren't an option.

And yes, I'm a massive fan of Evangelion. I've been told this is relevant for two.

I haven't been here for months. Man, I wanted to read all those Break Record spoilers.
By the way, can you play the new story in Break Record without beating the main game first? I don't want to play through DeSu2 again just to see the new stuff.

>>100471016
They're pretty okay. 1 is better than 2

>>100471016
Why not both? They're both DS, so it's not like they're expensive. Why play one Smt Srpg when you can play two?

>>100472378
Yes, there's an option to get into the new content immediately.

>>100472378
Yep, Triangulum arc is accessible straight from the start.
Now leave, lest more spoilers arise.

Who is best SMT?
Hard mode: No demons.
Nightmare mode: No waifus/husbandos.

>>100471016
Why are you incapable of making decisions yourself? Why would you ask despite not liking it?

>I've been told this is relevant for two.
Barely. People only make the comparison because of aliens and Eva is all they know.

>>100472378
Holy fuck, just google you dumb nigger.

>>100475650
Gale

>>100475650
Maya

>>100475650
Gouto

Wake up.

>>100484016
No.

>>100475650
Ozawa and/or Hero.

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>>100459321
In EP (and/or maybe IS?), if you save and reload you can make the fortune tellers shit last forever, apparently.

>>100468183
>Like that guy in SMT1

Not in the iOS translation.

>>100487816
Good luck

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Atlus USA have revealed their DLC schedule for Devil Survivor 2: Record Breaker in North America. Every piece of DLC for the game takes the form of a Free Battle and all but the Beginner’s Brawl will scale incrementally with your protagonist. Here’s the list, starting with the two pieces of permanently free DLC:
Beginner’s Brawl (Free): This is the one Free Battle that won’t scale with level, so make sure to tackle it early on. The enemies are a little on the weak side, but can still pack a punch if you’re not careful. Defeating them will earn you some quick Macca (demonic currency) to blow at the Demon Auction and get your team started off right.
Lost Demon Rescue (Free): A persuadable demon is caught in the middle of two hordes. If you can protect the demon and survive the onslaught, the demon will join your party! Use it to bolster your ranks or keep it for fusion fodder. (Not to mention that some of the demons you’re up against have useful skills to crack!)

>>100488957
Moving on, below is the list of paid content. Each piece will cost $.099 (CA$1.49).
Macca Makes an Escape: This battle poses a chase scenario. Demons are fleeing with their pockets stuffed with Macca, and it will be up to the player to run them down and beat the payout out of them. The demons are carrying three times the usual amount of Macca, and even though they’re fleeing, they’ll put up a good fight if you catch them.
All Skills Must Go!: Scattered around the battlefield are memory sticks loaded with powerful skills for your party. But the demons around have their eyes on them too, and will try and abscond with the memory sticks. This is one situation when you’re going to want to make sure to use non-combat skills that slow down enemies and/or speed up your party, because nothing is as infuriating as watching a Moh Shuvuu fly off with a powerful healing skill.
Let the Demons Grow:This is an old-fashioned free-for-all battle. These demons are loaded with extra experience, so systematically pick them off to reap EXP rewards and level your entire party.
Addonetarium: This battle is for higher-level characters, but is hugely beneficial towards the middle of the game when you can start implementing add-ons to your fusion. Basically, the add-ons give the fused demon a specific bonus, and can mean the difference between an average demon and all-powerful killing machine.
The rollout schedule for downloadable content is as follows:
May 5 – Game launch, Beginner’s Brawl, Macca Makes an Escape!
May 12 – All Skills Must Go!, Lost Demon Rescue, Let the Demons Grow
May 19 – Addonetarium
Devil Survivor 2: Record Breaker will be released in North America on May 5th. Meanwhile, NIS America will release the game in Europe this Fall.

>>100486815
Well we know the translators at Atlus are a bunch of fags, so it's to be expected.