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Why did the developer of Thieves in Time screw up? Sly series

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Why did the developer of Thieves in Time screw up?

Sly series is the least popular and least profitable of the Playstation 2 platforming trio. So the smart move would have been to make a self-contained story. For example, Klonoa only has 2 main console games and the stories are self-contained and because of that it never feels like the series is incomplete. Sly Cooper Thieves in Time ends on an unsatisfying cliffhanger unfortunately.

We'll never get closure.
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Just retcon that piece of shit and remake the series.
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>>389592129
Because they're fucking stupid.

Same reason the models were awful and they didn't take the concept artist's advice and make Carmelita as fapbait as possible. Seriously that lady wanted that fox to have gigantic goddamn titties and instead they gave us playdough face.
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>>389592745
this
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>Jak and daxter is dead.
>Ratchet and Clank got rebooted with a meh at best movie and an okay video game.
>Sly Cooper series is on life support.

we truly live in the worst timeline.
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>>389593473
Seriously a shame that good artists have to work with stupid assholes who pass themselves off as programmers on a lot of game projects and vice versa.
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>>389592318
This guy gets it
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>>389593981
Sly Cooper is getting a cartoon series
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>>389592129
She needs to stop being a bitch and just be happy Sly wants to have her babies. She should know by now Sly goes after assholes who stole or have shit they shouldn't. Just hire him as an undercover spy or somethin. Spy Cooper? Still I hate the whole oh I love this guy and he's not a total prick but fuck that eat shit sort of character.

Oh and fuck the character assassination they did to the nerd mouse. Fuck you.
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>>389592129
Klonoa is deader than Jak, R&C, and Sly Cooper combined, though.
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>>389595382
i know hopefully it does well and is good.
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>>389595830
And? Klonoa was always just a quick attempt to cash in on the genre. I never made it past niche/cult following.
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>>389592129
I liked the furry concept art
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>>389595830
He's getting a movie helmed by Ariga.
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>>389595830
feels bad man
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>>389595830
Hey that's an edit of a drawthread request I drew three years ago, neato.
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>>389597089
cool
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>>389593981
>Ape Escape got fucking raped and killed
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Why did they all died?
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>>389596461
Will it be good?
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>>389592170
Me too
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>>389598014
I hope so
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>>389598014
I mean as long as he has a budget it should be.
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>>389598747
This could be his last chance
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>>389598847
feels bad
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atleast crash is back, right?
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>>389599818
Still not enough
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>>389599924
that's sad imo
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>>389600805
Truly fucking sad
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>>389600805
>>389600862
What's so sad about the new Dark Souls of platforming?
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>>389595830
Klonoa's been dead since 2002 for a good reason. Consider what Klonoa game came out that nuked its reputation in that year which,

>Introduced a bunch of friend characters nobody cares about
>Bring in an edgy rival with a motorcycle and a gun
>Ham fisted DeviantArt tier storyline in a kids game
>Poor quality soundtrack
>Gameplay not native to what people expect in the series
>The word "Heroes" right in the fucking title

That game did the same amount of damage Sega did to the Sonic series in the span of ten years and they did it in a single title. Klonoa was never a big name title to begin with, but that one buried it.
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I don't think sly 4 was that bad honestly,
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>>389601328
>There are people out there that would defend Heroes and say it is a great addition to the series
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>>389601649
>>389601328
anything with heroes in the title is bad
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>>389601328
>a well received spi off rpg on gba is what killed it rather than terrible marketing or more console releases
Okay kiddo
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>>389601758
At least all the console games run at 60 FPS.
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>>389602197
>that rack
Nice to see you again, unnamed drawfriend.
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>>389592129
>>389592170
>>389596403
>>389602197
>>389603040
>>>/trash/
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/b/
>>>/c/ancer
>>>/out/
fuck off furfags
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>>389602197
nice
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>>389593981
Well, you can keep making kiddy platform games that only manchildren play and get a console that sells like the Wii U, or you can make shit for plebs (this includes modern children) that makes the big bucks and gets turned into a hollywood movie like Uncharted and The Last of Us.
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>>389603302
>>>/r/eddit
>one of these things is not like the other
>one of these things just doesn't belong
also what's the difference with this thread waifuing this videogame character compared to these threads
>>389599598
>>389570260
>>389593146
>>389600587
that are also waifuing videogame characters that has made you come here today.
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>>389603703
Do you visit /v/ drawthreads?
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>>389603820
The picture I posted I just found from the drawthread booru, I myself am not an artist, probably because I'm a lazy bastard with no wish to learn new things.
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>>389603703
>muh im not the only one argument
>singing
fuck off back to furfag trash im going to deal with the sangheili one next
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>>389604148
god speed anon
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>>389604148
A junior mod's work is never done.
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I miss MediEvil
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i wish sony would release a hd collection for ps4
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>>389604649
I'd rather something like the Crash trilogy, though then again they might just manage to make the models even more hideous from the last.
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>>389604649
the ps3 release is fine though
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>>389603040
>>389603529
Thanks bby

>>389604649
I bet you they'll release some kind of Sly or Infamous HD port as a pre-order thing for whatever Sucker Punch's new IP is, like what they did with Uncharted Lost Legacy and Jak 1.
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>>389597351
>Ape Escape got fucking raped and killed
and put in and unmarked graved.

>>389603541
I think I'll take the kiddy platforms at least have better gameplay than the Hollywood games.
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>>389605614
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>>389605421
I guess one thing is that Sucker Punch doesn't seem to harbor any ill feelings toward their time with Sly, meanwhile Naughty Dog for years seemed like they were trying to forget they ever made Crash until Uncharted 4, which came after the N. Sane trilogy was already announced.
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>>389606152
it never had a chance in hell. no series should have that kind of fate.
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Remember the Sly movie?
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>>389606542
It's a Sly show now.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/15/sly-cooper-animated-tv-series-in-the-works
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>>389592129
The cliff hanger is due to Sony telling them to make a Vita port mid-development. They wanted the last level to be Egypt, but they ran out of development tine and budget.
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>>389603302
/thread, fuck off furfags
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>>389606776
(continued)
But people don't want to inform themselves, that's too hard and takes time. Better just yell at developers, that'll fix things!
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>>389606654
I hope they don't use the same models

Those models are dick
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>Sony sits on a goldmine of great PS2/Vita/psp exclsives
>Either let's it rot, ruin it, or out right forget it
Goddamit
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>>389607297
I was hoping it might have been a 2D cartoon, maybe based more off the original trilogy's comic book cut-scene style, but I think they might be using assets from the movie for the show. Bentley and Murray look like shit, and while I thought Sly's model was okay his voice isn't fucking Kevin Miller.
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>>389607687
Sony needs to learn their lesson, FAST, or they will be losing userbase.
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>>389608663
They'd probably go for the same look as the new Ratchet and Clank. I have no artistic experience with anything but the trilogy's aesthetic/art style was nicer for me than 4's.
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>>389609663
I agree, but Sony thinks people wanted the dreamworks animation look, and apparently it sold well compared to the movie. The blandness probably also wasn't helped by sucking away any character and charisma Ratchet and Clank had
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>>389608663
More polished up versions of what Sly 4 was going for.
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>>389608663 (Dead)
>>389609663 (Dead)
>deleted
hwat
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>>389611224
he ain't looking so happy anon
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>Sly 3 ends with Bentley building a time machine to experience FUTURE adventures with Sly
>Thieves in Time was going back in time

Missed opportunity for either a Cyberpunk Sly game or one about his father.
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>>389603040
>tfw i recognize this image
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>>389612951
I mean it got posted in the last sly thread, I have a feeling that these threads usually get visited by the same people from previous ones
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>>389613238
I meant I recognize the artist, but yeah
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>>389607883
It won't happen since Sony until Sony gets real competition, until then they will keep doing dumb crap like this because they can.
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>>389614691
Sony have been concerned with VEE ARRGH and FOR KAYY for awhile now, but they are SLOWLY getting back to their "let's let everyone on out platform to make whatever game they want" mindset they had in the 90s and early 00s.

Unfortunately, this is a very slow change. Jak 1-X re-release on PS4 is just the beginning.
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>>389616453
I almost considered buying a PS4 when N. Sane trilogy got released, but decided against it. A new Sly game that's good of course would probably get me to buy one.
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>>389616836
Carmelita is from a series that has only anthromorphic characters, thus the fans of the series are probably not going to have any hatred of anthromorphic characters as a rule. I've actually never played any FF game, but it looks like Freya is a singular anthromorphic character surrounded by a crowd of human characters. It also helps Carmelita was introduced in the very begining of the series, so she doesn't receive hate like Krystal does for being a new arrival.
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>>389592745

source on the artist wanting giant titties?
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>>389617187
this is official concept art for Sly 4
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>>389617331
tha design is 10/10
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>>389617447
other concept stuff
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>>389618356
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>>389617080
I'd say because specifically with her they really downplay the fox, and up play the human. Everyone else is very cartoony (Sly doesn't wear fucking pants). But she has a full set of tits and wears tight pants and boots, so at least on first glance, you don't presume she's got them animal feet. Also her snout in the original 3 was very short, and she looked as human as she did fox.
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>now playing on /v/: the existentialism of furfaggotry
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>>389603362
Oh that looks sinful
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Anyone know why Dimitri was voiced in the Sly 4 trailer but didn't have single line of dialogue in the game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2e7EwnRPnI
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>>389619430
Someone requested her eating a caramel pastry named "Carmelita's". Dunno why they deleted it. The birthday thing I just thought would be cute.
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>>389619275
cute
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>>389618431

1 is lara croft
2 is eh
3 is milfy
4 is...not 'realistic' but cartoon mundane/girl next store.
5 is generic
6 is super generic

I love them all. Except 2
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>>389619275
when you gonna make that tumblr friend.
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Name a better villain than Clockwerk for kids games.
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>>389620031
impossible, anon

Clockwerk is 10/10
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>>389619275
Wait, there we go.
I might take some more requests
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>>389592129
i want to touch fluffy tail
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>>389620461
Draw a triggered Carmelita.
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>>389620304
>A bird who hates a rival family so much that he turned himself into a machine powered by his own hate to live forever

I will always love Clockwerk. His fight was great in the first game and having the whole 2nd game revolve around stopping him from coming back? Great villain
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>>389618356
>Tom Boy Body
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>>389601328
>they rehashed the gameplay in a sgt frog game
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>>389620031
I can't, Clockwerk was a villain that was actually threatening. He had an awesome design and voice, and his backstory doesn't try to paint any sympathy or make him out into a joke, he's a homicidal egomaniac who's responsible for the death of your father, and now he's coming for you.
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>>389620754
And they didn't hold your hand just because it was a kid's game either, Clockwerk literally invaded Sly's childhood home and murdered his father with his cronies, and left Sly alive as an insult. He was mysterious, intimidating, and he wasn't a joke like a lot of games like to do to soften up a potentially 'scary' villain.
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>>389621261
>>389621292
Saying that though, I also do appreciate the villains who were a bit silly. Dmitri was great.
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>>389621876
yeah you couldn't have all of them be grimdark. the game had a perfect mix of humor and seriousness. Fuck, what a good series, even if Thieves in Time wasn't that great. Hope they make more like the first two.
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>>389592129
Story nitpicks, cliffhanger, and model quality aside, I thought 4 was fine. Gameplay-wise it was more consistent and enjoyable than 3 or 2 was, getting rid of the way too many characters of 3 and making Bentley and Murray (mostly Bentley) more interesting to play than in 2.
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>>389616725
I would buy it anyway. Considering how many good games are multiplat, and PS4 version usually being good, you are spending for a machine that will run probably 40 games that you want.
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>>389619281
My guess is lack of time/money.

My guesses are usually right.
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>>389620304
Dr M is scarier. A member of your own tam can turn against you, if you crossed him once.
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>>389601513
Booting up my ps3 to play it for the first time right now. Hope it's at least a 6-7/10. I just want some fun Sly goodness that's unfamiliar.
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>>389617331
Belly dancers are the highest tier. But what this girl needed was just no more changes of dialogues or culture. And just a single fucking voice actress.
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>>389623832
It's funny how 2 of the plot twists were spoiled for me by a fan forum and YouTube in the first 2 days.

Still managed to enjoy it.
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>>389623832
After you done, make sure to listen to Seconf Funniest Podcast (select episodes after the game came out) for behind the scenes material and developer interviews.

>>389623992
I want Grey to stay.
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>>389597351
Isn't Saru Getchu still pretty big in Japan?
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>>389592129
The second I played the demo I felt like the physics were completely off from the other games and I lost all interest in playing.
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>>389592129
>ctrl+f control, gameplay, levels, mechanics, art style, etc
>1 or 2 results

Can you niggers actually talk about the games for once?
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>>389607263
Yeah I'm sure knowing this information will bring back the Sly series from death, and we certainly can't criticize the cliffhanger ending as consumers. It may not have been their fault and it's a shitty situation but that doesn't excuse the issue's existence for a paid product
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>>389624614
Well, you can refuse to play the game, or give it the lowest reviews in several places.

THAT will bring it back, sure!
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>>389597351
Don't forget poor Spyro.
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>>389624980
2nd is a reboot, different character, does not count.
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>>389624180
Thanks, I'll be sure to check that podcast out.

God damn do I wish for a resurgence in 3d lighthearted platformers. They could look so pretty now on current-gen consoles. These types of experiences are almost entirely missing right now in gaming.
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Why was the main villain so weak?
Clockwerk is dumb but awesome
Doctor M is funny as fuck
What about the skunk guy? Can't even remember his name. Why did they constantly teased him in the shadows, and when they finally showed him, it was nothing.
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>>389625224
It's still fucking Spyro dude. Sonic Boom doesn't star the same Sonic as the other games, but it still contributes to the rest of the series' stigma of being mostly shit.
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>>389624980
With the success of the crash remake, we may see more of these PS1 remakes. Crossing my fingers.
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>>389601513
The gameplay was fun for the most part, but the story sucked ass.
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>>389592129
I never got into Sly, the sexy fox is the only character design I like and character design is pretty important to me when it comes to platformer mascot games.
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>>389625291
Well, then you are going to like the game. Platforming and exploration (and secret finding) are its strengths.
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What if
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>>389627729
This shoop doesn't look good. There's no easy fix here.
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>>389629804
get a ticket from
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>>389624489
What's there to talk about?
The platforming sucks because circle button moves automate most of the platforming.
The stealth sucks because it's really easy to swooce into position and backstab guards or abuse sightlines.
The combat sucks because, well, all you do is whack dudes with your massive hitboxes. It's the world's least interesting beat'em'up.
The minigames suck because duh if these guys can't make the core mechanics good, why would these one-off segments be any better designed or polished?

God bless them for making it into a TV series, the voice acting was one of the few strong points the series had.
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Sony has a lot of dead franchises that people wants back and yet they decided to bring back Knack

They have Ape Escape, MediEvil, Sly Cooper, Jak & Daxter, Ratchet & Clank, Tomba!, Wild Arms, The Legend of Dragoon, etc.

Yet they waste resources on Knack 2.
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>>389632157
>ratchet and clank
m8
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>>389632203
Yeah they had a reboot, but we didn't hear anything from it since then and Insomniac Games is busy with Spiderman
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I bawled at the end of sly 3
I have no idea why
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I wonder what is the status of LittleBigPlanet after the last game, that game MediaMolecule is making seems to be on a limbo, I hope that if the game doesn't ever releases they just go back and make a new LittleBigPlanet or Tearaway.
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