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Its time to discuss the greatest Visual Novel ever made

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Its time to discuss the greatest Visual Novel ever made
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I keep meaning to play this but the only other VN I've played was some one with cripple girls /v/ was raving about and it turned out to be puerile shit.
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>>383282038

Katawa Shoujo? It's like a 6/10, but I'd say Umineko is a 9.5/10 overall. Your overall enjoyment of it will depend on how you feel about the ending.
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>you will never bend natsuhi over your leg and spank her with your magic spatula
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>>383282201
Spoon feed me a DDL?
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>>383281810
Okay. This one is entirely about my fetish,so it's good.
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>>383282290
Nyaa,get out of this thread before someone spoils the game.
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>>383282290
Nigga, all you have to do is search umineko torrent on Google. It's the first 2 links.
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Yeah I love Ever17 and Remember11 too.
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Yeah I love Kara No Shoujo too
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>>383282243
>You will never be Gohda the God and have Beelzebub taste your "special cooking".
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I think The melancholy of suzumiya haruhichan spoiled the ending of this for me
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>>383282518
torrent=/=ddl
Probs get to it tomorrow,
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What about it do you want to discuss?
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so whens MG releasing the fighting game
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uab?
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any update on the PS3 remake for Chiru?
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>>383281810
>umineko
>not fsn
retard
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Stop believing Shkanontrice

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=acLhqUzUgxc
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>>383283829

im almost done with fsn, its definitely not as good as umineko
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>>>/lit/
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>small bombs
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>>383283010
i gotchu senpai
http://store.steampowered.com/app/406550/Umineko_When_They_Cry_Question_Arc/
make sure to switch to the original shitty art, it's part of the ride and honestly the new art looks just as bad but without the fun
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>>383283829
>>383283929
>f/sn
>not s;g
retard
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Oh is this the thread where we pretend that these things are actually good?
Is the anon, who unironically thinks they are as good as nobel prize literature also around? He's my favorite anon
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>>383283829
>Fate
>Not decent at best
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But that's not Dies Irae.
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>>383284067
>s;g
>not majikoi
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>>383283987
Steam version does not have voices.
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>>383284067
>s;g
>not muvluv

actually spat out my drink
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Prove to me magic doesn't exist right the fuck now.
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>>383284253
>muvluv
>not the superior game about brains and tentacles
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Umineko is a giant clusterfuck , there I said it
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>>383284258

Using Method X, it's entirely possible to prove that magic doesnt exist!
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>>383284258
INDISPUTABLE
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The only worthwhile visual novel was made by germans.
Japs have this weird habit of wasting the readers fucking time by adding useless bloat text that adds nothing to the experience. Mostly to pad out the gameplay hours
>its 40h game so you need to pay 50€ for it!!
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>>383281810
>>383284067
>>383283829
>>383284169
>Tfw all of these are my favorites.
Best one is The House of Fata Morgana though.

Too bad there is not many VNs I'm interested in anymore. Only Baldr Sky, Muramasa and the inevitable Rance X
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>>383284456
>being a pedo
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>>383284258
>Trap X
>Method X
>Accomplice X
>Small Bombs

Suck my cock, magiccucks
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>>383284372
was i the only one that got turned on the most when he was fucking her real form
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>>383282518
Where do you download VNs now that sukebei is down? I want the version with PS3 sprites and CG. I dont care if you special snowflakes want to play with the retarded original art, Im not playing with that shit
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>>383284762
you stop paying attention to the sprites after like an hour anyway
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>>383284762
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/
https://sukebei.pantsu.cat/

pick your poison
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>>383284762
there are nyaa alternatives
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>>383284762
I,d recommend the PS3 patch anyways, just because of the voice acting.
The Anime did a lot of things wrong, but the VA pucs for the characters are not one of them, it's fucking stellar.
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>>383284594
stuff i'm excited for off the top of my head and other stuff that i haven't gotten to because i'm still overwhelmed by my backlog
>hoshizora's fandisc is getting translated, that'll be next year (probably)
>little busters ex routes are getting translated, that'll be in a month or two
>key mentioned a kud wafter translation might be possible, that'd be in a few years minimum
>fate/extra ccc is being translated by a single dude who has been at it for like a year or two now, that may happen sometime next millennium
>jast is picking up majikoi, this means they'll eventually do all of the a-series... probably. that'll be in several years minimum
>symphonic rain just got a steam release
>fate/extella coming to pc, although that's less of a vn
>rewrite+, which means potentially harvest festival etc
>dal sengo just came out, bought it already, gonna read soon
>f/ha voice project
>dies irae
plus my backlog right now is fuck-huge, i'm going like two at a time right now
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>>383284630
what route was that in, i only did like one or two
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>>383284441
>literally Battler
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only VN i liked was VLR. what should i play
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>>383284762
>>383284896
nyaa.si is hosted by the fansub circlejerk, so it's always up to date on new anime coming out. i've also found it's better quality, but /nrg/ hates it because
pantsu.cat is hosted by some dudes in contact with /g/ or something, idk. i've found it's down a lot more often and is missing stuff, but it's constantly being worked on and getting better. i think pretty soon they're gonna scrape nyaa.si so stuff shouldn't be missing anymore.
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>>383285330
999, maybe ever17
If someone recommends euphoria, ignore them
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>>383285330
Play Uchikoshi's other games. 999, Ever17, Remember11 and etc. Pretty much everything posted in this thread are things translated also and are generally well received. Anything is a good start.
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Is it actually any good really? I tried to watch the anime because I liked Higurashi and it was utter shit. I remember I went to play Higurashi after watching it and it had the most fucking atrocious art I've ever seen. I uninstalled it once I finished vomiting.
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>>383285084
Fate Extella is the only thing I'm looking forward to play, but that's more a game than a VN.

Nero, Li Shuwen and Altera look fun.
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>>383285673
from what i hear, mai waifu gets shafted in it with a shitty route and a mostly boring cast in her route
honestly i'm more interested in ccc but i'll probably die of being fat before that happens

all of the other stuff i listed i'm super excited about, especially hoshizora, little busters, and majikoi
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>>383285670
yes, the anime is complete shit. only covers half the story and does so very poorly
if the VN art turns you off get the Alchemist art patch or read the manga, but keep in mind the sound design is 11/10
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>>383284762
https://github.com/07th-mod/umineko-question/releases is the patch

>>383284878
If given the choice between getting used to shit or having something better, I'm going with the latter

>>383283987
Don't listen to this anon, the patch has better sprites and voice acting AND updated intro movies pls do not put yourself thru getting used to the shitty alternatives
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>>383285670
Anime is universally agreed to be shit.
Play the VN with the PS3 patch that adds better sprites and voice acting.
Now get the fuck out before you get spoiled.
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>>383285867
>>383285941
Alright thanks lads. I had to know if it was just people memeing this shit or if the anime really did fuck it up that badly. I'll take your word on it and check it out.
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>>383285892
patch is fine but the shitty art combined with talking about the ride with /a/ back when it was still coming out in like 2010 or w/e made the experience twice as fun for me
you can't really recapture that anymore though, so patch is fine. the steam art is garbage though, that's what i was calling shit. just look at the screencaps on the product page.
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>>383286081
vn adaptations are rarely good, most are outright bad. the only ones i can think of that were actually good were steins;gate, clannad, and ufotable's ubw, and at least in the case of steins;gate and fate/stay night, i'd still say the vns were better than the anime (clannad's anime was better because the clannad vn had major pacing problems).
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>>383286081
for the record higurashi also has a sprite patch and is worth reading
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>>383286081
Just a heads up, it's really fucking long and has terrible pacing at the beginning, but when it gets going it's pretty good.

Just have fun and remember, Magic isn't real.
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>>383286120
Makes sense, Steam art is fucking atrocious and you're really better of using the OG sprites if that's the case.
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>>383286305
Well I'd only ever seen Steins;Gate and I guess Higurashi but I hear that's actually some weird nip audio book thing or something and both of those were good. Although you're right about S;G being better in VN form, if only for having agency and having a lot more time to flesh things out and pace them.
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>>383286550
higurashi's a vn as well, by the same developer as umineko. it came out before umineko, so the art was even worse than umineko's art was.
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>>383284896
>>383285403
Im probably retarded but searching umineko on either bring up nothing
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>>383284441
So is this guy anime Scully? he keeps seeing weird shit but still doesn't believes in anything
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>>383287052
the first guy linked you the nsfw version of the site and it won't appear on there
i can confirm umineko is on nyaa.si under the software category

>>383287105
he even has the same hair color, perhaps they're long-lost siblings
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>>383287105
oh yeah also, funny story, she's from the same place i am (grand rapids, michigan)
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>>383281810
You posted the wrong game there OP.
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>>383286738
it's pretty bad
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>>383287504
yeah but would you let her give you a handjob
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>>383281810
Yeah man I love infinity and especially r11 too, I mean what's better than a series that canonically never ends?
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>>383287901
>I mean what's better than a series that canonically never ends?
just about anything
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>Umiunko
>greatest Visual Novel
Get that disney shit out of here and read some real deal novels.
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>>383288028
agreed, like this one
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>>383287213
>i can confirm umineko is on nyaa.si under the software category
>Its real
Thanks but what the fuck?
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>>383288258
well, it is software. on any anime tracker, vns are gonna be either under software, applications, or games
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>>383288258
sukebei is for porn so you'll likely only find things with ero scenes in there. umineko doesn't have any.
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>>383282290
You could just watch a fucking walkthrough online. Visual Novels aren't games, but literally novels.
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>>383288340
>>383288478
oh alright. Torrent is stuck on "connecting to peers" though
I never thought I would have this much trouble with downloading a VN especially because Ive done it million times before already
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Umineko EP1 is legitmately one of the best experiences in my life, I got through it in one sitting drinking constantly.

At first it was kida "eeh" with the set up of characters but when Batller opens the garage on Day 1 with his parents mauled and THIS

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kVP09lhSPm4

plays I knew shit is going to be amazing.
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What in the everloving FUCK was this bitch's problem?
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>>383284594
>Best one is The House of Fata Morgana though.
I'll certainly agree that it had the potential to be but it just can't by virtue of Pauline and Yukimasa exisitng. Though really, absolutely everything that happened after Michel's intersex door brought that game down hard. At least it has a nice ending, by which I mean a nice last 2 minutes of text.
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>>383288705
do you have dht on? nyaa replacements rely on dht to work at the moment. also, what client are you using? the only torrent client i've ever had good luck with that isn't a pile of shit is qbittorrent, i'd recommend trying that.
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>>383282201
I didn't really even particularly enjoy the ending. It's so long that the journey is more important than the destination.
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>>383283829
Fate is just a worse Dies Irae with mediocre character writing, atrocious pacing and a story that doesn't have any deeper meaning. Sure, the pacing was all over the place in Umineko Chiru as well, but at least it did a decent job of making you care about the characters and gave some interesting insights into the relationship between meaning and truth. Higurashi is still my favorite in terms of enjoyment though.
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>>383288689
>trying to find one that isn't HEY EVERYBODY ITS THEREALGAMEBOY HERE HAHA OH ANIME U SO FUNNY"
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>>383283929
We've had some decent attempts, but buttblasted /lit/ mods delete vn threads pretty consistently within an hour or two, so it's not an option sadly.
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>>383289835
>Fate is just a worse Dies Irae
Jesus christ.
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>>383281810
Every thread until we reach the golden land.
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What makes Erika so BEST?
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Will there ever be a good anime adaptation?
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>>383290336
He's right.

Rea > Marie > UBW > HF > Kei > Kasumi > Fate
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DESIRE
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>>383284169
Wanko is best girl
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>>383281810
that's not ever17

>>383282609
good taste
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>>383290986
she really is
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>>383290646
Intellectual rapist with smugness and bitchiness that either her winning or losing is a blast.
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>>383289878
Silent playthroughs are a thing
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>>383290646
>not Eva
If Erika was a milf she would be best though yeah
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umineko is fucking trash
if any of you saw the roleplaying on /a/ in 2010 you'd agree
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>>383291081
>>383282609
I too love chicken sandwitches making up 80% of the game.
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I read umineko in high school and loved it, revisited it last year up to episode 3 then marathoned all 8 higurashi games to catch up on the overall canon.

Honestly higurashi was so moving I wrote Ryukishi fanmail about how big a fuck fan I was and then two weeks later When They Cry 5 got announced.

I still wonder if it's a coincidence but hey When They Cry 5.
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>>383290842
>He doesn't know.
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>>383291245
it's like an investment, you "lose" 10000$ but you end up gaining 9999999999999$. Just take the loss of money (time) bro, it makes the true ending the best ending in video games
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>>383291261
>When They Cry 5 got announced.
Do we know anything about it yet?
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>>383289835
Definitely true that F/SN has awful pacing and one of its three routes is complete garbage but Dies Irae is almost painful to read. How just the butchering of its opening sequence gets a pass is just proof of how standards have fallen.
Having a DUDE METAFICTION LMAO character like Shirou at all is really just bad writing incarnate. Umineko is literally a story about other people writing stories and not at any point was it as tactless even with Featherine on screen.
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>>383291529
Jack shit unfortunately but I hope it's better than Rose Guns Days
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>>383283929
lit has surprisingly pleb tastes for story oriented vidya
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>>383290336
They both follow the same formula, really. Both are shounen-style visual novels that start out in a highschool setting. The characters introduced in the beginning of the story figure into the bigger picture. Turns out our protagonist was never the normal person he pretended to be, which is proven time and time again as he goes up against seemingly impossible odds and comes out on top time and time again.

The difference is that the character motivations in dies irae are more fleshed out, the philosophical themes are at least kind of plausible in places, and the battles are written in a way that actually makes the protagonists growth believable for the most part.

>>383291541
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>>383291680
Rose Guns was fine. Even in the dreaded Japanese cold censored version of Season 4 was still good.
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>>383291354
Not really. Ending is really good, but if you think 3 good hours make up for 20 of pure shit and 7 of mediocrity you're delusional
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pacing fags need to die, fucking read faster shitlords
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>>383291985
true route is like 6 hours, and the sandwich segments are about the same, you're exaggerating shit a lot
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>>383289558
I tried downloading the 1-4 torrent and didnt work for 30 minutes so I started downloading umineko complete torrent. Both are working now but the 1-4 is going only at 200kb/s while hte other at 4mb/s. Guess not much anyone can do, these are old games already
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>>383292053
People need good pacing today because without it their attention spans shrivel up and die and they just want to stop reading whatever they're reading, which leads to them dropping plot points left and right.
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>>383282290
>Spoon feed me
>>383284762
>Where do you download VNs now that sukebei is down?
The absolute horrid state of /v/. How do you idiots expect to understand the story if you can't even use your brains to perform simple tasks?
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>yfw this played at the end of EP1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWDpCAt2LGI
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what is the deal with ever 17 and sandwiches?
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>>383291985
muv luv in a nutshell
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>>383292404
Imagine being trapped for a week and the only source of food was chicken sandwiches.
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>>383291541
Didn't mean to post before I wrote my reply to you.

You're definitely right about the writing being painful if you take the setting seriously, and I also found that my enjoyment dipped considerably after the banter in the sol part was over and done with. I still prefer "DUDE, METAFICTION": the character over the levels of story-railroading and plot armor present in F/SN though.
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>>383292626
I wouldn't mind it, honestly.
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The padding was good and really what made WTC what it was. You needed the boring dull scenes to sympathize with the characters more and bring out their subtleties, and it all works to emphasize the horror scenes when shit hits the fan. Like I understand if it's a little boring for you to read a whole act about Ghoda and Shannon doing chores but fuck you if you thought it was legit bad.
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>>383292121
a few problems are responsible for that
first, torrents work on a peer-to-peer system and peers can see each other in multiple ways, the main two of which are
1. a tracker web service advertises every peer that connects to it to the other peers
2. distributed hash tables (dht) work by having every client keep track of every other client they can see and distribute this information to new peers
when nyaa went down, the nyaa tracker went with it. this meant that everything fell back to dht (which saved everyone's asses, since without it, we'd have all been fucked), but not everyone USES dht and some people CAN'T use dht for various reasons (usually network-related). so a lot of peers were lost because of that.
the other more obvious reason is that when nyaa went down, a lot of people stopped seeding shit and in some cases deleted it outright because they didn't realize (or didn't care) there was going to be a mirror of it.
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>>383292626
>>383292404
I liked how in a recent interview with the devs, the interviewer asked about the chicken sandwiches, and they were confused because the original jp version has tuna sandwiches. complete game changer
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>>383291354
Whether they gain or not is still a risk, to get the most of the impact you have to care deeply for the characters (which is hard to do since they're all either retarded, annoying, or both) + how impressed you are with the WHOA WHAT A TWEEST end, which is lessened if someone has already played 999/vlr. The shitty pacing is pretty inexcusable.
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>>383292760
Fucking hell, this.

I really didn't enjoy curry autism shit anime jokes for 6 hours in Higurashi, but I know how fucking important those scenes are.
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The chicken sandwiches were a lot more tolerable than the kick the can shit
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>>383292843
what a dumb change to make, it's not like tuna sandwiches are uncommon in the us
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>>383292992
particularly because the can shit never gets explained
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Thinking about it, every single episode has a couple of cool as shit scenes.

You can bitch about it however you want, but you know is the truth.
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the JDF, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Hinamizawa, and I have over 300 confirmed kills in 300 different kakeras.

I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in all of Japan's tri-district area. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out from inside this moving van with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words.

You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the country and your timeloop is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands.

Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Mountain Hounds and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue.

But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. Over and over again until June 23rd.

You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>383293069
tuna sandwiches are common, but it's not often fried like in the game. i agree it's a dumb change to make
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Umineko is not a VN, it's a sound novel.

And while the first four episodes are excellent, the last three are garbage I almost regret to have read.
The "revelations" towards the end are not worth reading it. If you enjoy the story along the way, Umineko is fine, but far from "the greatest".

R07 is great at creating a setting and telling a story, but he sucks ass at leading all that to a fulfilling conclusion. It probably didn't help that one of his best buddies died during the production of Umineko.
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>>383293627
t.brainlet with no love.
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>>383293627
hi goat kun
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>>383293627
>Chiru sucked!!!!!

Ah yes, the infamous schizo strikes again.
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>>383293697
Yeah, that "without love it cannot be seen"-crap was probably one of the worst parts of Umineko.
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>>383293627
>last 3
so did you think 5 was good?
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>>383293627
>I was too dumb to realize that it was a love story from the get go: the post

Logicfags, everyone.
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>>383292992
That shit was the best, legit first time I've ever been so unsettled/disturbed by a story
>completely isolated underwater
>decide to relax a bit with a game in the dark
>everyone is accounted for
>everyone hears the can gets kicked in the distance
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>>383293882
5 was my favorite one. The whole end sequence was incredible. Not to mention
>I wouldn't put it past Kinzo
>Die the Death
>That one last "...It's useless." right before the credits
Shit gave me chills.
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>>383294006
>Everyone wished for the can to be kicked, so it happened/Blick Winkel did it.

Fucking bullshit.
>>
the first umineko chapter was the only one i really liked. though the best moment is in chapter 5 when battler is explaining how kinzo left his room.
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>>383292194
>She will never bind you with duct tape and intelectually rape you.
Why even live
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>>383293882
5 is the best.
>Battler broing it up with Kinzo and Ronove
>Erika being (best girl) a huge cunt with everyone
>CHECKED CHECKED DIE THE DEAD, SENTENCE TO DEAD GREAT EQUALIZER IS THE DEAD
>Golden truth
>"Yes, your majesty"
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>>383294585
So you can be physically raped instead
>>
Someone should do
>what I expected
>what I got
with umineko
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>>383293313
>Don't really like EP8 overall
>But it still has some of my favourite scenes in the VN

Battle for the Golden Land and Bern getting punched in the face were fucking spectacular.
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>>383294771
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>>383294396
>curé shit
thatsbullshitbutibelieveit.jpg
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>>383294957
>Battle for the Golden Land in the manga and VN
Pure GOAT.
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Who was the bigger fuckup, Keiichi or Shion?
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>>383294969
Is the never 7 cure shit related to the ever 17 cure shit?
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>>383294396
How is that bullshit? The first time it could have been one of the animals, and to match that the second time it could have either been completely manufactured or it could be the BW fuckery which is what they were going for in the first place.
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>>383295383
Keiichi, for not realizing how perfect Mion is.
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>>383295421
Yes, look at the infinity timeline.
N7/E17 spoilers
Julia was friends with Tsugumi and was in the same hospital when Tom infected Julia with "cure" who in turn infected the entire hospital. Then Tsugumi was captured by Lieblich.
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>>383294965
sums it nicely
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>all torrents have the ps3 art
>not the original
I need to archive the game with the original art. Same with Higurashi.
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>>383295383
ShMion has big hangers
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>>383295694
This.

Mion is best girl.
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>>383295383
Fucking generic anime artists. Neither Mion nor shion should be making that kind of face.
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>>383296571
This is more appropriate for the ero goddess
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>>383296782
イツ パーアヘクトー!
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>>383290904
Living the dream.
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>>383297247
>パーアヘクトー
this wasn't supposed to be パーフェクト was it?
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>>383297247
How are the Sonozaki's so good
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>>383297464
>フェ
Alright I fucked up. Given the way beato pronounces it though, that seemed like the reasonable way to spell it.
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>ywn be able to swap bodies with a qt
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>>383295942
This, I want to play with bito's troll face.
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>>383298930
Sucks because the patch doesn't work for me either for some reason.
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>>383291541
How is Shirou metafiction?

I thought he was a pretty good moralfag protagonist
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>>383297960
>that qt will never be metaphysically both your mother and half of you
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>>383284163
so how is it anyway? I couldn't even bother to pirate it yet
I know the common route or something is free, but...I think I might just have lost interest because of the faggots translating it
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>>383292492
Muv Luv was such a piece of goddamn trash.
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>>383284372
Muv-Luv Alternative has brains and tentacles
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>>383285670
you caught the cancer by trying to watch the anime, you must cleanse your soul now, anon, before it is too late!
seriously, always go with source material, goddamn it
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>>383287275
>casually spoiling the game in one image
I love you anon
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>>383289878
>mfw I'm doing a playthrough of Umineko, saying nothing other than reading the narrator
and you know what? I love it. No need to be shitty witty, just read out what's in front of me and experience this story again
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>>383303139
Shut the fuck up Lambdadelta.
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I'm going to buy Root Letter.

What am I in for? Is it even worth it?
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>>383293819
it was there from the beginning. and it was great. guess you lack it
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>>383281810

But only one VN can make VNs great again
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>>383283829
>FSN
Even the older Tsukihime is better.

And Fate as a whole is a garbage at this point.
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>>383297758
So what was up with this bitch? Does she love K1 or not? There were heavy hints she was into him, but then its revealed she's still obsessed over Sakoto's onii-san.
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>>383303436
I can say with certainty: never
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>>383303758

K1 was just a replacement for niinii, shes still in love with him. Mion is the one in love with K1
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>>383302676
that was the joke
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>>383305405
lol!
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>>383303672
>Even the older Tsukihime is better.
tsukihime is a fun story but it doesn't really have much depth to it
>>
>>383303672
Both FSN and Tsukihime are good

I agree that Fate post FSN is garbage though
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>>383305747
>THIS CHAIR
>>
Alright, let's talk about Higurashi then

Marry
Fuck
Headpat
Hug

GO
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>>383306858
disappear
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>>383306936
idk, haven't read it yet, it's in my backlog
what are the basic personalities of each of them
>>
Friendly reminder that the "official explanation" of Shkanontrice is a lie that was pulled over the eyes of readers without love.
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>>383306936
Deito Lucifer.
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>>383307021
starting bottom right going clockwise
>IM TAKING IT HOME WITH ME
>genki
>nipaah
>kyahahaha!
This is from memory when I watched it 8 years ago, how did I do
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>>383306936
Marry Mion
Fuck No one
Headpat Rika
Hug Rena
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>>383284250
>wanting voices in a VN
>not wanting to read at your own pace and with your own headcanon voices
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>>383307527
based purely off that
marry bottom left
headpat top left
hug top right
fuck bottom right
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>>383307128
Rosatrice is the kino theory.
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>>383306936
Marry Mion
Fuck Mion
Headpat Shion
Hug Mion
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>>383306936
marry all, except satoko
fuck all, except satoko
headpat satoko
hug all
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Kara no Shojo 1 and
Swan Song
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>>383307758
>>383308265
My niggers
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>>383308029
what's up with the kino meme anyway?
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>>383282243
WITCH IS GOLDEN DREAMER
IT'S MAGICAL GOHDA CHEF
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>>383309640
its the hottest dank me me here on 4chan
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>>383309857
説明してください!
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>>383310027
>>
I wish I knew more people that got into Umineko. Much of the company I know that even play VNs swear by Danganronpa but that shit is so stupid compared to When They Cry. Truly style over substance.
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>>383310221
イエス!イエス!イエス!
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>>383310363
I like both,they are both great for different reasons.
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Find a flaw.

Spoilers: You can't.
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>>383311353
Dangan isn't great by any means. Nonary Games, Ace Attorney, Umineko, and others all share elements that DR has and does them better.
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>>383311526
FWWWIIINNDD A FFFFWAAAWWWW BWATTTERRRUUUUU SWAAWWMMMAAAA

For such a fucking shitter, I love her.
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>>383311965
>Nonary Games, Ace Attorney

They are certainly not better,i guess Zero Escape is a better series if you really really like puzzles.
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>>383312347
She's so loveable because she's such a tryhard.
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>>383311965
It's just dumb fun, seeing just how ridiculously over the top the plot goes, not all things need to be deep.
Most fans seem to enjoy the characters more than the story, I guess because they're entertaining and also over the top.
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>>383311353
>>383312714
Where would I start with DR? There's a couple versions of the first one right?
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>>383283172
How Eichli should have had her own route
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>read tons of books
>play tons of games
>play some VNs
>Erika is still the best character that I was able to enjoy
JUST HOW.
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>>383313069
If you have a PC 1 and then 2.If you have PS4 there is a compilation that includes the first two games with slightly improved graphics.
>>
Clare was a joke for the readers. Riukishy07 betrayed us by showing us Clare instead Yasu directly. To know the truth you have to read through 9 boring chapters of Yasu boring life to get into an idea to what truly Clare is. The bond between Clare and Yasu was never truly explained.

I never was so disappointe with a visual novel
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>>383313761
Clair was the mouthpiece for Yasu without having to give Yasu a clear cut sprite, it's not that hard.
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>>383313860
Was there a necessity for that? Why is Riukishy so afraid of showing Yasu? Also, Yasu was never mentioned in the early parts of the mistery so Riukishy07 is violating his own red truth: the culprit can't be someone not mentioned early in the mistery, and dont give me the : Shannon was mentioned. Shannon is a piece, Yasu is a player.
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>>383314098
Because Yasu in their own right was ambiguous, the connection between Shannon and Kanon was clear enough that you should've been able to see it given how much they were pushing it by Chapter 6.
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>>383314335
Yasu was never mentioned in the question arc. The whole point of the first four chapters is that you can get into the answer without the need of the answer arc. If we follow the logic of the first 4 chapters Shannon (piece) is the culprit, not Yasu (player).

YOU NEED the answers arc to know that Yasu is the culprit, which violates the red truths. I hope you understand me better.
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She's so fucking perfect, holy shit.
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>>383312403
Ace Attorney absolutely has harder cases that actually require the player to think at times.
The only difficulty I had in all off DRR were the completely bullshit moments like GRAVEL ON THE SWIMSUIT.
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>>383315090
Then how come people solved the answer arcs before chiru was released?

It's perfectly possible to solve Umineko with only the question arcs.
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>>383315090
You dont need to know Yasu to have the answer. People had solved it from the first case. Yasu is just a convenient name for the reasoning.

>>383315137
This is exactly my point. Umineko is better as a mystery and Ace Attorney is better in terms of actual gameplay mechanics and puzzles.
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>>383306936
Marry Rika.
Live together forever with Rika.
Die with Rika.
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>>383306936
Marry Erika
Fuck Erika
Headpat Erika
Hug Erika
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTAcJ0ZcUkI
>Hope starts playing
>burst into treats
I don't understand how everything about the first few episodes was designed so perfectly and beautifully. Just listening to this one musical piece makes me feel a joy that I have been unable to grasp for most of my life.
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>>383284630
I mean it's a fleshform with a wet hole, im sure that's hot to someone
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>>383315690
>live together with rika
>have your home life destroyed by rika's rampant alcoholism
>have to shield your children from rika's drunken rage combined with ptsd from her groundhog day loop
>die a broken shell of a man with debt to the hospital for the liver cancer treatment
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>>>/m/agical
>>>/g/ohda
>>>/c/hef
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>>383316790
Damn that sounds fun
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>>383281810

>visual

sick meme my friend
sick meme
>>
Is Devil in a G-String entertaining?
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>>383318441
somewhat but it requires almost wilful suspension of disbelief over some shit. you really need to not think too hard about a lot of plot points or else the whole thing falls apart.

the main flaw is that it's a battle of wits written by someone who is not particularly witty or clever.

it'll probably entertain you but don't let it convince you it's in any way smart.
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>>383316790
Hence why you marry the Satoko
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>>383308265
>Headpat Shion

last time someone did that, she went on a killing spree 2 years later
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>>383319094

>2 years

no way, K1 headpatted shion on the first week he got there before he knew Mion. The groundhog day loop is around 1 month after he gets there. So it was only around 2-3 weeks after Keiichi headpatted her that she went on a killing spree
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I've played Umineko 3 years ago and stopped on early Episode 6. Is it true that the later episodes pale in comparison to Ep 4 or 5? Planning to pick up Chiru when it got released on Steam I guess.
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>>383319443
6 is the worst episode for sure. 7 and 8 are good but still not the best or anything
>>
>umineko is incredibly, astoundingly good
>try to read other visual novels
>every single one of them are mediocre to shit
Steins Gate and ever17 were all right, but how in the fuck anybody can read fate: stay night and think that it's good baffles the fuck out of me
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>>383319592
but anon the waifus! the feels!
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>>383319443
It's less that they pale in comparison, it's more that they don't deliver what was announced in the first few episodes and they literally insult you for even expecting it to be delivered (that's where this goat-shit comes from).
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>>383319404
shion gets absurdly obsessed with satoshi solely because of a headpat, that was before the 4th year's curse.
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>>383319592
For me it's both Umineko and MLA that spoiled me on visual novel. Everything else now feels like garbage.
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>>383318871
>cheats on you with her nii nii
>>
This thread is a good reminder that this world is full of basket cases
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>>383291684
>board that hasn't read anything other than Adorno and Foucault is full of retards

Go figure.
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>>383319443
Episode 7 tea party and some parts of Episode 8 are amazing, you're missing out.
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>>383319868
>>383319592
You EOPs are sad
>>
>>383316294

So true. I've been rereading Umineko with a friend (her first time reading it) and every time Hope plays, I get feeling of nostalgia.
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>>383321583
It's not even due to being EOPs in their case, Umineko fags are legitimately mentally ill
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>>383320258
Then Shion retaliates by porking anon and they all kill each other.
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I'm kind of debating right now whether or not I should make a thread about Major\Minor, which is a furry visual novel that is so fucking bad that I think it shaved 10 years off my life. People must know how amazingly terrible it is.

I'll throw down some highlights for you

>one of the first characters you meet invites you to a maid cafe
>a band manager asks you to come up to her office so she can tell you how the recent murders are related to quantum mechanics
>the part where another band manager RIGS THE BUILDING WITH BOMBS to protect everyone inside
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>>383318836
>>383318441
Yeah it's good dumb fun. Good music, good main route and really shitty side routes are what I remember. And Haru is great, she sells it.
Sharin no Kuni is a little more clever with better twists and premise.
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>>383322357
what the fuck were you doing playing this, not only is it an oelvn, but it's a furry oelvn that tries to use quantum mechanics???
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>>383323621

dont shit on oelvns I made one myself and got an average 7/10 on vndb
>>
>>383323621

I like pain, anon.
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>>383282660
what
the
fuck
>>
>>383323805
Name ONE(1)(하나)(一) good oelvn
Shilling yours doesn't count
Katawa Shoujo doesn't count
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>>383324653
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>>383324653
Honestly Unteralterbach

rest are garbo
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>>383324653

Whatever i post ur gonna be like "no its shit" and then im gonna be like "k".
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>>383289878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3P3qvdFP1Q&list=PLN8ikmldsPF-PnIa9nsDq0IaAtxEmoXFN&index=1

Check this channel out. He also has Higanbana and Rose Guns Days uploaded for anyone interested.
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>>383311526
I really hated Erika in EP5
The transition from intellectual rapist to rapist really saved her
>>
Witches and Woodlands >>> When the Seacats Cry
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>>383326360
which one of those was written by that Renall guy
>>
>>383283172
How can I play it? I know there's a translation for the PC version?
Is Erogechan a safe website to download from?
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>>383326425
WaW was written by Jan Poo and Seacats was written by Kinjo Goldbar so I don't know who Renall is.
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>>383281810
>enter thread
>OP makes a bold statement
>283 replies

Is it really?
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>>383327810
Yup.
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>>383327810
yes it really is that good. if you read the thread, you'll notice the vast majority of it is people talking about the game in the OP, rather than suggesting something else is better.
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>>383328167
>>383328325
Two vns that I've read out of many which I really liked were Nocturnal Illusion and Divi Dead. I thought they were both great. Is Umineko better than those?
>>
>>383327810
http://www.strawpoll.me/13389021
Time to autism
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>>383288771
But Dead angle didn't play until the climax of ep 1.
You're thinking of goldenslaughterer.
>>
TIME FOR PARENTING
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>>383291261
Did you read his other shit?
Higanbana and Rose Guns Days are great.
RGD starts off really happy go lucky and then slowly turns into probably his darkest story yet.
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>>383285330
Danganronpa is probably right up your alley
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>tfw you will never find LITERALLY TEN TON OF GOLD
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>>383308029
>>383307128
Rosatrice is absolute retardation.
>>
>>383329558
I never actuqally read higanbana or rgd simply because i can't be assed to import them and it's difficult to find a working pirated version of either. the art in RGD really turns me off but I've heard it's good, higanbana seems interesting but I'm worried it'd just be Ange's school life chapters stretched out over an entire SN.

I'm almost not even motivated enough to schlep through another Ryukishi game until it has the WTC namesake on it because what I really, really want is something that ties up the entire canon and kakera fuckery in a satisfying way (which we won't get).

WTC is Rika's story. In 1 and 2 we see her in Hinamizawa, in 3 and 4 we see her as Bernkastel, an antagonist. It was all spread out so well but was never given any closure because the focus was more on leading protagonists and not her as the main character. I just want WTC 5 to finally really explain kakera logic and give Rika some closure. RGD is full of loose cameos and teasers about WTC and I'm just not into being mentally NTR'd like that.
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>>383330184
poppy bill is kill, how come he never write a damn will
>>
>>383324653
little lily princess.
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>>383330215
It's not NTR or whatever nonsense you're saying. Ryukishi made his intent clear with the Harrison Ford analogy already.
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>>383330215
>difficult to find a working pirated version
Just try the usual places. Nyaa or erogedownload or wherever.
>Ange's school life chapters stretched out over an entire SN
Haha no way. It's Umineko's dark comedy turned up to 11. A bunch of short stories about ghosts fucking with odd children. I absolutely loved it and I hated Ange's melodrama.
>I'm just not into being mentally NTR'd like that
Not sure what you mean.
>>
>>383330215
Bernkastel is a part of the wtc universe. Rika's story is higurashi.

>>383330878
Like this anon states, your post seems very nonsensical. In any case though, you should definitely try out RGD and higanbana if you enjoy Ryukishi's writing. If you mostly care about WTC for the hype moments, RGD has plenty of it.
>>
>Hardcopy Umineko
damn I'm tempted
>>
>>383331216
If not for those god awful sprites
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>>383331857
Original or bust
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>>383319443
You're exactly me, 3 years ago on early episode 6.
I regret stopping after putting so much time into it already.
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>>383331216

Are you referring to MG's physical umineko disk release?

I've been waiting so long for a physical book release of R07 works that i ended up making my own.

puu sh/wF5bi/d2339442fb pdf

You can use that pdf to self-publish a hardcopy of onikakushi-hen. that way you'll always have it in physical form
>>
>>383329170
my favorite vn is little busters desu
>>
>>383303489
Guys, please respond. Is this a good VN
>>
>>383334620

never even heard of it. sorry buddy
>>
visual novels aren't video games. kill this thread please
>>
Being the best VN is like being the best looking dog turd.
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>>383335451
HAHA GOTEM
>>
>>383284594
>Dies Irae
>liking that autistic chuuni garbage
End your fucking life please.
>>
>>383334620
no idea, maybe ask on /vn/ on /vg/
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>>383332240
really. You take away the original art and you take away half the creepy factor of the entire series. It's especially true with Higurashi where what are basically super deformed anime characters make disturbing faces to very creepy music often.
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dumping some album art in case anyone's interested
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Does Teaching Feeling count as a VN?
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>>383337009
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>>383337386
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>>383337892
These two are interesting, explaining zts's thoughts behind the tracks.
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Umineko is some kind of masterpiece. Read it about 5 years ago now and it's still one of the most memorable pieces of media I've digested.
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>>383338869
If only I could read it.
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>>383329170
>no Starless
What the fuck, anon?
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>>383339654
In that one he's saying he made all the track titles English to make the readers have to think more about the meaning of the song.
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Ok /v/ if I want a good mystery VN with possibly some action to go with it after umineko and higurashi and other common vns should I go with Dies Irae or Kara no Shoujo?
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>>383341774
If you want more mystery try Kara no Shoujo. It can be very dry at times though, be warned. If you want more actiony chuuni-wankfest go for Dies Irae.

Also that reminds me, when the hell are they coming out with the uncensor for Dies Irae?
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>>383339007
Same. I'm still not sure what to think of it but it's unforgettable even after all these years.
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>>383330215
Rika =/= Bernkastel. Not even Witch Rika is the true Bernkastel.
There's tons of overlap, but not identity.

The True Witches of WTC are either narrators or narrative concepts.
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>>383342765
musicbox blue now
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>>383281810

>BEATERIJEEEEEEEEEEEE

>MY DESIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEE

Easily one of my favorite animu and I started reading the Vn after completing it.

I haven't completed the VN series. I got around the 5th Vn where they started to somewhat dispel the myth of Beatrice and really started to layout the history of Uroshima family. I haven't read any of it in about 4 years so I may be wrong about somethings. It was interesting, but I wasn't prepared for that part of the story, so I pretty much dropped it. It's still a great story tho.
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>>383343651
similarly explains dai's intentions for the songs
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>>383342668
At the end of this month, apparently.
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>>383344064
In that one Beatrice's saying it's not necessary for Battler to deny witches to defeat her.
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>>383345303
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>>383345863
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>>383345993
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>>383346990
I'll stop dumping now unless anybody can read these.
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>>383344054
You have no fucking clue about the story if you only watched the anime and read part 5, holy shit.
Do yourself a favor and re-read the entire thing from the beginning.
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Umineko is a wild ride with some of the best writing of any VN, for sure.

But it is TOUGH to stay committed to when things start going into heavy fantasy. The introduction is such a straight-forward mystery novel, and very high quality in terms of how the scenario is laid out, how the characters and their motives are all explained, you can't help but be disappointed when it becomes about witches firing lazors and summoning monsters.

It's a struggle not to drop it at that point. It seems like they just gave up trying to make a great mystery novel and instead fly straight into the simpler and more comfortable territory of anime-style fantasy. But it's worth carrying on because only later do you realize how essential the fantasy vs mystery thing is to the story.

Unfortunately, the game spends much more time in the realm of fantasy than in the realm of mystery, and that's the game's main weakness. Writing mystery is much more challenging than fantasy, I guess, although it is understandable given that the whole scenario is based on a lack of real information about what happened on the island. Still, it would've been nice if more of the story could've been detectives trying to work out whodunnit, whydunnit, etc., instead of anime witches debating about abstract philosophical principles for 20 hours.
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>>383283843
I almost miss these autists. "HURR THE STORY IS ABOUT LYING SO THE HONEST TRUTH EVERYTHING POINTS TO MUST BE A LIE TOO"
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Episode 7 was a perfect ending. Why did R07 have to fuck it all up with 8?
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>>383293627
>sound novel
R07 can make up names all he likes, it's still a fucking visual novel
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is this top 10 legit? I only played 999, but it's hard to believe that there are better VNs than it

https://www.gamefaqs.com/top10/2579-the-top-10-horror-visual-novels
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>>383348758
>Theresia is on there
Nice. Seems to be, there's also a ds game called Nanashi no Game that I've heard was good.
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>>383348047

I didn't say I only read part 5. Last time I checked around 4 years ago, there was only 7 episodes to the VN and I read up to at least half of episode 5. Unless there has been 7 more episodes in the interim which I doubt, I have a good sense of what the story is about and where it might be heading.
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>>383348758
in terms of horror, probably
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>>383349434
>I have a good sense of what the story is about and where it might be heading.
Look at this goat. Laugh at him!
Episode 7 has most of the answers.
Episode 8 breaks the game and reveals the true core.
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>>383349634

Stop being a faggot. I've read over half of the series and I never once mentioned that I knew exactly was going to happen. Your saying what happens in subsequent eps doesn't counter any statement I made about what was happening in previous ones which made me drop the series for the time. I still enjoyed the ride. Stop being a faggot.
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>>383349286
Nanashi no Game is pretty creepy. It has weird controls though so you have to rotate the DS/emulator in order to play it (you hold the DS like a book).

The game takes place in Japan and there's a rumour that there exists a 'cursed game' which, if you play it, you die or some shit like that. It's basically like a 90s Japanese horror movie, but in game form. Gameplay is just like Shattered Memories, where you just run from bad guys, defenseless. Can be fun but it's mostly about the spooky story, which is told mostly through little segments of the cursed game, which is an 8-bit FF-style game, but scary.

It's a unique game, worth a try
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>>383324653
I liked Analogue/Hate Plus for what they were: A story about a bunch of fucked-up Koreans through the eyes of a feminist AI.
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>>383281810
But you didn't post Inganock or Remember11, OP. Wrong image?
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Yes, let's discuss remember11
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>Just try and deny me, BAATOURAAAAA
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>>383324750
>Unteralterbach
>English
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>>383281810
now your talking my fucking language
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>>383281810
Ao i have a question. Are the games connected? Do i need to play them in order?
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>>383313458
i want erika to rub me with those feet
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>>383351291
obviously they're connected
you wouldn't start with episode 8
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Is there any guro, unavoidable deaths and/or suffering in this game?
from what i've read the story seems to be similar to berserk with farnese but i'm not sure if that's the focus of the series.
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>>383291318
"good"
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I ship Battler and Ange. How degenerate am I?
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>>383351604
No, i mean is this related to Higurashi. Because both have the When They Cry subtitle.
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>>383351838
Yes, but not that much. either way both are worth reading
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>>383351618
Guro, not really. There is some torture.
Plenty of emotional suffering and unavoidable deaths though. That's what the story's built on.
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>>383350964
I will when the story is actually finished.

ENDLESS LOOP my ass
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>>383352698
The story is finished, everything you need to know is in the game.
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>>383352430
Thanks anon, guess I'll have to give it a miss then.
If it's related to higurashi even more since that's some sick shit.
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>>383351790
pretty degenerate tbqh
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Is there any actual murder mystery VN? Preferably if it has gameplay, kinda like Kara no Shoujo
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>>383349434
EP 5 is probably the biggest hint dumps in terms of figuring out how to tackle the games

the first four actually read very differently if you think about the stuff dropped in 5 (Knox,s Decalogue and such)

you definitely get a good idea of where the storys going around 5, despite what these guys are saying
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>>383351838
umis got fun higurashi references but nothing relivant to the plot
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>>383307758
yes
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>>383348758
I wouldn't have even begun to consider Sharnoth being that scary a game. Hell the first monster that chases you (and the hardest to beat) is a badly drawn fire lizard
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>>383319443
id say 4 was the worse, way to much shit happening at once. i like 5-7 more. 4 was just a huge clusterfuck with a strange ending. ill still never stop wondering why battler hugged thw girl that kills his family, but wtvman
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I read the vn up to ep4 years ago and just finished reading the whole thing (manga btw). I will never not be mad about the ending. I love the characters but I fucking hate the ep 5++. How tf ryukishi not getting killed by some crazy fans in japan already.
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>>383352698
Fucking oniichans and their sister complexes and bs plans blue balling me out seeing what happens to that baby.
Kokoro is Good
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>>383319404
didnt groundhog day start alot earlier when it first started, like pre-first year curse?
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>>383350964
It comes up in jrpgs a lot but I never thought i'd see a vn where the protag tries to kill god and succeeds.
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stopped being good after it stopped being about just battler vs beatrice
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>>383354341
>what happens to that baby.
It lives.
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>>383354962
Elucidate your reasoning. using the rules of self's reality warping ability, if the self(player) in Kokoro assumed that the baby was about to go swimming the world changed so that it would become true right?
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>>383355356
Inubushi Keiko and all of the personalities possessing Sayaka are personalities created by David that are possessing her body in the same way David himself possesses Naoya's body. Since David leaves when the game ends (to start over and try for a different ending), we can assume the people he was overwriting (the real Yukidoh and his sister) resurface. Since Sayaka was holding the baby, likely it's okay, since either Sayaka dies right there or regains control of her body.
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>>383355763
Whoops meant to spoiler most of that
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these prices on steam for VN games are so outrageous
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>>383356223
higus worth every cent w/ ps3 patch
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>>383355763
>we can assume the people he was overwriting (the real Yukidoh and his sister) resurface.
But they were gone from this world. There hadn't been any prior introduction to the concept of overwriting/burying a conscious where it's just hiding dormant while someone else is piloting, so I don't really like believing in that theory.
I prefer the latter part of your last sentence, having no consciousness inhabiting the bodies and the two become corpses right then and there; because the original Sayaka didn't die, she stopped existing. Inubushi Keiko was always the black haired girl, always born on 1991 and had did because self can change the past. She can't be brought back. I believe its the same with the real Satoru; gone once he fell from the clock tower.
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>>383356780
higus?
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>>383295694
>>383296483
Men of taste. First series that got into this degenerate weeb shit and made me understand what a waifu truly was.
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