Gaming Depression

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>>381619030
Hanging around with non losers like 95% of the people I know. Good luck, beacons such as myelf are as rare as they come

Does anyone else just feel fucking overwhelmed by their game libraries? I have hundred of games that I have never even touched, and I feel the overwhelming need to complete them all.

It's gotten so intimidating that I'm never able to play anything at all.

>>381619132
This desu.

why are you guys depressed?

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>>381619030
Try playing a classic game that you've never played. After kind of being in a slump, not knowing what to play except online competitive games, I finally decided to play my copy of Super Metroid on Wii U (thanks to E3), and have been having a blast

I did the same thing a while back with Chrono Trigger, Mother 3, Sparkster, etc
These are all titles I just happened to skip during my youte.

>>381619489
Depression is a mental illness, it doesn't necessarily stem from anything in your life
I have a great fucking life and I wanted to kill myself for like 3 years straight until I got on anti-depressants

>>381619489
no jobs

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Same as
>>381619132


>>381619030
If youre burnt out on 'games' then you are lacking in life. Do something else or try a new genre. I cant play anything that isnt social. Its not a mental problem if playing metroid zero mission alone when nobody gives a fuck about it on earth isnt fun

Just do other shit man, get a fucking hobby

>>381619664

Enjoy all the experts on mental illness calling you a faggot and telling you it doesn't exist.

Glad you got your shit together though.

>>381619249

Yep, absolutely. Eventually I just got better at telling myself and accepting that I'll never touch half of it, and should just enjoy what I can. It's a simple thing that won't work for everyone but it eventually clicked for me.

>>381619813
>Enjoy all the experts on mental illness calling you a faggot and telling you it doesn't exist.
Great m8 mate

>>381619489
Fap addiction kills the dick's sensibility really fast, little to no pleasure from fapping leads to depression, and video games can't fix that, especially if you already fapped before you picked up a game.

Do you guys actually believe you can do anything you set your mind to?

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Leave /v/ for a bit. All this place teaches you is that if it isn't a 9/10 or above, it's shit. Learning that it's okay for a game to just be good rather than amazing makes it much easier to enjoy games.

>>381619952
>sensibility
Kek

>>381619030
It's easy to burn yourself out on gaming if that's all you do. What other hobbies do you have? What are you good at?

>>381619489
a lot of people think its a form of sadness
in reality is much more like anger than anything else
you hate everything
you hate everyone
you hate your life
you hate having to wake up
you hate having to go outside
and you hate it so much it eats you and you feel this never ending migraine and you dont feel anything else but that and bitterness

>>381619593
This guy has it right. /vr/ is always an amazing palette cleanser.

>/v/ constantly shits on people with cancer, autism, you name it
>tell "muh depression!!!" fags to fuck off
>NEETs knocking over their piss bottles to be the first to tell you to stop being such a meanie :(((

This isn't your blog.

>>>/b/
>>>/adv/
>>>/r9k/

Fuck off

>>381619665
Shit man. Same here. What is your line of work?

>>381619801
I've personally tried this, and I have to say it doesn't always work.

I understand what OP means. He wants games to be like they were when they were a big deal. When renting something from Blockbuster was the highlight of the week. What he doesn't realize is he can never have that again.

No amount of advice will bring back your innocence OP.

>>381619593
This guy is closest to my methods.
1. Take a break with something else. Read, draw, organize something you've been neglecting. A change in routine works wonders.
2. As the other guy said, try something you never got around to before, ideally from whatever period in gaming was your favorite. You'd be surprised at what you may have missed. Failing that, replay a short old favorite game you haven't touched in ages, and impose new challenges not related to achievement-hunting in them for yourself. Game as comfort food.
3. Pick out the games you were playing when you lost motivation and drop them. Don't give me whining about invested time and money, they aren't doing it for you and the sooner you make peace with that the sooner you can move onto a potentially-better game.

These work for me, at least.

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Some of you are clinically depressed. Those of you that are need professional help. Though it may help to know it's not that you're SAD, exactly. It's more like a permanently muted or emotionally inactive state. You still enjoy things, but it's hard to tell when with your life's saturation slider turned down. Try identifying the small signs that you still enjoy a certain thing.

The rest of you are probably just wearing yourself out emotionally. The ability to feel things, anything at all, is not endless. Think of it like a bucket full of water. The bucket only fills up so far, and only fills up so fast. If you ration the water, it's fine. If you use it all up, the bucket is simply empty till you wait for it to fill. This water is used up on everything you feel or deign to care about. This goes for anger, sadness, disgust, or happiness. Even when you give attention to a shitty clickbait article, a little is spooned out. If you ride a high of enjoying something a lot, that water spoons out even faster. The more you enjoy it, the faster it happens.

There's nothing to fight this. Everything in your life requires rationing your attention. The only real solution is to learn how to enjoy a nice 'medium' in your life as often as possible. Not everything has to be the most bombastic experience. That shit just tires you out. Then you feel like shit.

>>381619030
into darkness because... it goes underground into darkness..... whoa....

>>381620193
I've tried my hands at ultimate frisbee, magic the gathering, dnd, and comic books. All of this does nothing to make me feel any less hollow.

>>381619489
None of my hard work has ever materialized into anything, and complaining about it will have people insult me by telling me "you just don't work hard enough". By the end of high school I had been playing sports year round for 4 years with straight A's in my classes but I still never had a best friend or any girls interested in me, nor had I ever been invited to a real party. I burned out after that and put on 50 lbs my first year of college. I was eventually able to get back to my high school weight but mentally I never really got over that "nothing you do actually matters" hurdle. In my last year of college now but I'm in my 5th year because I've had to retake too many classes due to severe apathy.

>>381620257
Not OP but this wasn't a blog post buddy.

It was a question and it actually can be related to by lots of folks who play games.

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>>381619593
>>381620241
There's plenty of great modern games that are just as good as the classics, if not better. You just need to look eastward.

>>381621109
Holy actual fuck.

I've literally never thought of mental processes like this.

Thanks anon.

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>>381619030
>What are some of your go to methods of pulling yourself out of those slumps?

I play a video game.

Seriously I force myself to play fucking video game that I have not played for ONE hour. Works every time.

As for you OP....however far away, I will always love, however long I stay, I will always love, whatever words I say I will always love you.

>>381621668
I don't think this is about the quality of the games though.

Realistically OP should not have posted this here. He is attributing it to games, cuz games used to bring him joy but now they don't.

The games didn't change. He did.

>>381619952
i feel you. porn and fap addiction made me lose sensitivity in my dick

>>381621771

https://youtu.be/Lv5qN4Qn9ss

>>381622005

Sure it's not just from you being a cut-fag?

>>381621668
It's funny you show P5 because right now P5 is what's gotten me into a burnt out phase. It's just way too long. 90 hours in and I just beat Shido. I unlocked his treasure in late May but didn't touch the game for like 2 months. Just now I've forced myself to go through all the days I had left before his fallout. And what's worse is that I know I have one more dungeon after this.

Luckily I have a break in the monotony with
Crash next week.

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>>381622148

I was actually listening to a cover of it by Snake River Conspiracy.

https://youtu.be/DWBYg-ZET-o

probably my favorite cover of an already great song.

Also I wanna go a little deeper into my original post. I do the whole "play a game I haven't played for one hour" thing as a sort of palette cleanser. I figure if I'm feeling burnt out on games it's because I've more than likely been playing either the same game to much or the same genre. So I stick something in ANY system be it modern or retro just to cleanse out my palette and sort of refresh myself to the hobby.

Good example of late is that I've been playing a LOT of HZD + BotW so to cleanse that ol' palette I popped in Yazkuza 0 along with some Raiden Trad on SNES.

It got me out of the adventure game blues and I'm feeling the mood to play more.

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This is now a vidya feels thread. Post your vidya feels.

Okay, I'm not reading any of the other replys, so sorry if I'm rehasing shit that people have said before, but to combat gaming fatigue, DO SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN GAMING.

>"Wah, I don't want to, gaming is the only thing I like"

Well then, enjoy being sick of video games, and then complain and say it's modern gaming's fault that you can't enjoy a game anymore. I mean Jesus, the fact that someone just sit at home, playing game after game, after game is bonkers to me. If you are feeling fatigue, go out and do something different. Maybe read a book, or take up lifting, running, a sport, just something else to give gaming a break. If you come back and still don't like games, well then chances are, you have a new hobby that you like now.

Also, stop spending so much time on the internet, 4chan in particular. This place can make you infuriated with everything in the world, not just games. 4chan is also a place that just spews negativity which can leach out into your life, and affect how you enjoy things.

>>381622493
Fuck you. P5 is perfect and you deserve major depressive disorder.

>>381622572
I dunno... the way you play games seems a lot like work man...

>>381622662
>>381620050

A common thread here seems to be that 4chan is cancer.

Why do we come here if it just beats us down?

>>381622662
>4chan is also a place that just spews negativity which can leach out into your life, and affect how you enjoy things.

is this bait?
If you're going to say that then why do you come to 4chan?

>>381619952
What's your diet, son?
How many days to you go without fapping?

>>381622850

No, it's more like food. You don't wanna eat the same shit every single day or you're going to get sick of it very quick. So you eat different things to keep your routine fresh and avoid stagnation.

It's probably why I don't understand how people can play nothing but LoL, TF2, CS, etc for 1K+ hrs without having something else in there to keep them from being burnt out husks.

>>381619990
No, not really.
A lot of shit motivational speakers don't talk about is how systematic it is to be a functional person.

People who say "Just have a positive attitude" overlook basic human needs like being sure you're well maintained and well-fed and so on.

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>>381619489
Nature. Nurture. Loneliness. Need healthcare but lolpoverty. Existence is a curse.

>>381623624
Christ. Just get arrested. They have to treat your health issues in prison.

>>381619990
I think the point of that statement is not to truly believe you can literally do everything if you want to (you can't), but to just entertain the belief that you can. If you don't believe you can do something, then you go into it expecting to fail and will end up making it a self fulfilling prophecy. Its the same meaning behind the Yoda meme "Do or do not, there is no try".

>>381623078
Short answer is misery loves company. Rather than going out, and trying to find shit that we enjoy, or just overall self-improvement, it's just so much easier to sit around and be miserable. Even more so if there is a shit-ton of people who do nothing but sit around and be miserable. Then if someone who is stressed/depressed/disillusioned in life stumbles on this website, rather than trying to improve themselves/ look for enjoyment, they fall into the mindset of "well, these people are all miserable, same as me, so I'll just be miserable as well, since it seems to be a normal thing". Then, if you try to be something better than the average /v/ user, they mock you and call you a normie. So then you stop doing that, because you feel like you want to fit in with this community (god knows why). Understand that it's okay to be better than this shit-ass fucking place. Go out and enjoy shit, don't just sit around and be a fucking loser forever on 4chan, just because you won't fit in anymore around here.
>>381623214
I used to come here all the damn time, and that with a bunch of other negative shit in my life made me not enjoy life in general. It took a bit to understand that this place is fucking shit, and I shouldn't sink to 4chan's level if I can help it. I've gotten much better, but still, I can't help coming back here every once in a while, just to see some shitposts and what-not. Also the occasional good thread or two.

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>>381620428
political science
i worked 3 places and move out
now I looking for the 4th place
I can live with a lot of money from my parent without doing any job but I don't want to live like a leech

>>381619489
>Neet
>Still a virgin with no gf
>Probably out of shape overweight/to skinny
>Wallows in there own shit and piss crying "woe is me"

Honestly "depressed" people espeically on /v/ are most likely dumb asses who refuse to go out of there way to improve themselves and just sit at home crying about their problems.

>>381624043
Well you can come here without having to act like the natives. It's not that hard.

Being able to enjoy things has not been impacted by my stay here.

>>381619489

I'm not depressed I'm human. I'm forever trying to hide the inevitability of death from my conscious mind.

I try not to realize given my life choices that I will likely die alone and unnoticed. That I wont be found and my body will rot. That I'll be a brief blurb of a news story in the wee hours of the morning if I'm lucky and that no one who remembers me will be there to mourn me or care that I existed.

I'm trying not to remember that this is all real and hoping it's all just a dream while still secretly wanting it to not be.

I'm wanting to not buy anything during the Steam Summer Sale because fuck a lot of things on my wish list are 50%+ off right now and I have surplus money to waste which will bring me a moment of happiness in this otherwise bleak existence. Or I'd just like a hug anon who read any of this.. I'd be fine with a fucking hug seriously.

>>381624191
Fight on.

>>381624323

D-do you wanna be friends, anon?

>>381624323
Nigga I totally hear you. I'd give you a hug if I could buddy.

>>381624445

if you lived within a 50 mi radius of where I live I would seriously take you up on the offer even if I'm just drunk and venting.

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>>381620891
>Pick out the games you were playing when you lost motivation and drop them
I was going to make a post about this exact thing for the guy overwhelmed by his game library (>>381619249).

When it comes to unfinished and untouched games in your backlog, you have to:
>sort through them
>pick out a small list of ones you actually still want to play (ignoring how much money you spent on them)
>mentally accept that those other games are just done

You start to feel overloaded because the back of your mind keeps those games categorized as "active" in your life and it weighs down on you.

Pic related is my Steam library categories.
"Top Priority" is where the games I most want to play sit. There's only 16 in the list, and most of them I'd guess are only 5-10 hours in length.
When I feel like I've had enough of a game (complete or not), I shove it over to "Done Playing". If it's something I completed and enjoyed enough where I'd like to come back and play it again in the future I put it in "Done Playing Favs". Games like Monaco and Cave Story are in there. All other games I haven't really tried and am unmotivated to play just stay uncategorized in "Games"

Every few months, I'll skim through the categories and see if anything deserves to be moved, but mostly only play from my Top Priority list.

This method really helps my mind feel at ease about what games are truly on my backlog.

>>381624587

I'm an MA-fag for what it's worth.

>>381624323
>tfw hug all my guy friends irl
gotta meet better people, anon

>>381624723

I'm stuck in TN with one friend who I can at least talk w/ at work and a best friend stuck in IN.

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>>381619249
I have stopped buying many games for this reason.
There is no point to just waste money and buy and buy and don't play shit.
I am focusing on buying 10 or so games at a time then working slowly on them all and only when I am done I buy more. It is working great so far.

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>>381624407
Thanks
>>381624323

>>381619249
>I have hundred of games that I have never even touched
How is something like that even possible?

>>381624927
Steam sales.
You buy everything you see as good and lots of humble bundles with crappy games on them and you end with a monster that is horrendous.

>>381624307
Well, yeah, it's for sure possible, but the majority of the people (from what I've seen), and like the ones I mentioned.
Also, I bet you don't spend all that much time on here. Being here for a LONG time can affect shit you like.

This might be weird to some people but I'm depressed and I'm not a neet loser. I've had gfs, even teenage ones, I look decent (all gfs came onto me), have had sex, have a nice paying job that lets me work from home, and generally want for nothing. Problem is I don't know where to go from here. I feel like I've done and accomplished everything I want to do life in and now there's nothing to look forward to. I thought about trying to become super rich, but then I realized there's nothing I want. It would literally be money for moneys sake. I can't think of anything else that I might want to do in life. I'm tired of the tediousness of just "existing", and although its not enough to make me want to kill myself, I sometimes wouldn't mind if death just happened spontaneously to me.

Does anyone know this feel? How do I get over this and get back to having things to look forward to in the future?

>>381624927
Humble bundles certainly didn't help

>>381624927

I'm sure plenty of people see really good steam sale deals as the 2 dollar difference between dealing with piracy and just downloading the game when the mood strikes. Problem is, seems like the mood never strikes.

I wouldn't know from experience, haven't touched Steam in years.

Real depression is a disease and needs to be treated with therapy.

Also get some sunlight and work out.

>>381619030
say it with me "FRESH AIR AND EXERCISE"

>>381624191
>political science
whoops

>>381625061
Go back to school for something interesting

>>381625168
The problem with PC is that you can do a million of things on it, so it is easier to just shitpost and watch youtube videos or animes and cartoons than to install a game and play it.

>>381624878
I really want to buy a Switch, and have had the opportunity a couple times to order one on Amazon, but having a short list of games I own and genuinely still want to play (>>381624650)
has helped me hold off each time.

Adding another console to my collection will just present more options of games to buy. I'll be better off waiting and getting them cheaper later anyway.

>>381625242
>live in NJ
>everything outside is terrible

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>>381619489

There's a difference between having a terrible life, and feeling bad about it, and having a great life and feeling bad about it.

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>>381625242
i can confirm this works.

I work 80 hours a week. I just don't have time for games between drinking and working.

It sucks.

>>381619030
>Le depression xDDD
Friendly reminder that depression in the first world is a meme, used by incompetent millenials to justify their ineptitude. They're too incompetent to face the real world so they pretend to have a disease. You fucks don't know what depression is and what it can do to a person.

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>>381624323

>>381621109
>You still enjoy things
Sadly, not for some of us.

>>381625530
People without clinical depression can still go through slumps, anon.

>>381625061

There are more things to try than you have time to ever do, even with your easy-going schedule.

Rock climbing
Carpentry
Sailing
Fencing
Dancing
Fishing
Programming
Writing
Rapping
Horse Riding
Gardening
Bird Watching
Acting
Swimming

That right there is barely scratching the surface, and if none of those interest you than try literally anything else. Humans have been coming up with things to do to kill time since we had time to kill, you're bound to find something you enjoy doing if you stop limiting yourself in terms of what you do with your time.

>>381625530
So you mean those times I don't shower in a month and let myself almost starve to death unless somebody else gives me food aren't depression? ok anon.

>>381625709
>responding to it

>know that im going to be a useless piece of shit that'll never amount to anything for the rest of my life
>too much of a pussy to pull the trigger

>>381625628
Jesus christ is that a buckling spring keyboard?!

>>381625061
As long as you are serious an not just trying to get the NEETs riled up I actually have advice for you.

I won the lottery a few years ago and, while not an extreme amount, I found myself in a position where I am never going to want for anything else in my life.

I was where you are for a couple years before I came to my answer: realize that I can actually do anything. Any small whim I have I can do. And since death wouldn't be a problem, then you can do all the extreme shit that you feel like.

Sky diving was my first thing, amd it's just grown from there. I reccomend starting where I started bud.

>>381625628

At least he died with his copy of Harry Potter and the Sorcerers Stone on Lazerdisc

>>381625628
its hard to believe thats a human carcass

>>381625227
>>381625242
It can't just be that easy... can it?

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>>381619030
The only thing that games and depression go together for me in is making me feel a modicum of happiness, or some similar emotion like satisfaction or determination to finish something. My life is pretty empty and no other activity I've tried (short of Lego, but those have gotten in the way of trying to make friends when they see I still like children's toys) has made me feel better.

>>381625628
people in the police force (and EMTs, etc) actually come across shit like this. I can't imagine having to go home and live an emotionally-normal life if my job involved that.

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>>381625713
>Rock climbing
Not hardcore enough.

>>381626209
NO not this image!

>>381626209

People who do that shit are seriously fucked up in the head

I hate myself because of how much I've let my life go to shit.

>>381625978
Man. You clearly aren't a millennial or are looking in the wrong places cuz everyone I know my age thinks lego is AWESOME.

>>381626089
I got a police friend.
He doesn't, he is one of us already, super fucked or even worse.

>>381619489
I'm a middle child whose basic needs were ignored and one of my habits in 1st grade was putting a class picture next to the TV while playing NES so I can pretend people were rooting for me doing the one thing I was good at at the time.

I have other skills and hobbies since then, but felt like my abilities were exploited more than valued, possibly because I was pushed to succeed but not nurtured to work hard. Not exactly fond of having useful information/material a couple years after I needed it most.

Not a lot of friends and the ones I can maintain contact don't really hang much since they're pretty busy with life. Don't blame 'em really. The ones I made online are either fires waiting to happen, are single working manchildren like me or living their dreams. It goes without saying I cut out/tuned out the first.

Things could be worse, y'know? I'm not blind that some people don't even get to sleep in a bed or wear shoes. Not diminishing lack of basic needs just because my problems extend a little beyond that, just saying I could do with less unnecessary crap in my day or week.

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>>381626209
I suddenly have to urge to stretch.

>>381625061
This >>381625340 or something in the same vein that looks to the future. By learning something new you're opening up opportunities you might not have had otherwise.

Are you not interested in getting married, anon? You said you've had multiple normal relationships. Finding a kick-ass person to spend your life with is always a good immediate goal to strive for.

>>381619489
I don't know, I've been trying to figure that out for as long as I can remember. I hate waking up in the morning, and I don't think I'll ever feel any better.

>>381625978
>>381626575
You've actually given me the idea that it might be fun to put a small box of lego pieces in the center of my coffee table, to fiddle and build little things with while watching movies or just sitting around.

>>381625061
Do it for your children, earn enough to put them through private school and let them live without the burden of college debt etc

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>Have an appointment with a psychologist in a month
>Have no idea what to say to her
What do you even start off with if you don't even know why you're so depressed?

>>381619030
Sometimes when I feel burned out on something I stop doing that thing for a while or so much and do other things and then later I do that thing again and it's not so bad.

>>381619030
>What are some of your go to methods of pulling yourself out of those slumps?

I have friends who are always hyper and stuff, and I'll hang out with them.

Or I'll play a game dependent on teammates and choose the character that you need but no one/almost no one wants to play so I feel useful enough to believe I'm actually helpful to someone.

>>381625061
Depression hits anyone, actually. Thinking you're above it is a mistake.

The problem isn't that you peaked, it's that you need fulfillment or challenge in your life.

>>381627087
I think you just gave a definition of life as a whole:
>do thing
>get tired of thing
>do other thing until you want to go back to thing.

>>381627020
do you think that most people who go see a psychologist actually know what their problem is?
Why do you think they even go seek help?
just answer his/her questions, and be honest at all times

>>381627020
They will guide you and ask questions.
Just be sure to not tell her anything illegal, because they break secrecy ALWAYS.

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>>381619489
I don't even think I am "depressed" in a way it is commonly understood. I know what is wrong with me and I know what it is doing to me. I am physically disabled and this disease has ruined me and any of the future prospects I might have had. From a handsome youth that was physically active and had friends that were just as active I went to a balding rat covered in sores and pustules that can barely stand upright, waiting for that one inevitable day when I will not wake up in the morning and hoping that it comes sooner rather than later, because I do not want to see just how low I will be brought by it all. I have great friends that treasure me and will be sad to see me go, but seeing them go on with their lives and achieving victories, no matter how insignificant is an eternal reminder of just how sub optimal I am. Just a living reminder of all the bad things that can happen to them or anyone else who comes across me.

>>381627020
They'll do it all for you, just answer their questions, don't mention illegal activities, suicidal thoughts or intent to harm others or you'll get fucked

>>381626575
>>381626950
I wish I lived around where you guys do. No one else here shares my love of Lego so I mostly browse /toy/ for it.

I'm actually really impressed with the lack of shit posting in this thread.

Good job everyone.

>>381619030
nootropic stack has eliminated my depression.

>>381619489
I fucking hate everything and am not successful or talented

>>381627020
It's their job to ask the questions.

Be honest, don't hold back no matter how embarrassing it might be.
Describe your whole situation, hobbies, activities, friends, lack of friends , sleeping issues, energy levels, hunger.

Everything you feel changed since you felt better.

>>381626209
>wow look guys I climbed around in a bunch of crevices

idk what makes rock climbing more acceptable and cooler, but it is. Maybe just because being able to climb things is a good skill to have as a human?

>>381627538
Work for EA

>>381627536
Are you the same anon that recommended nootropics some years back? Not the first time I've seen someone recommending that.

I mean honestly, when I'm actually depressed (as in, having a relapse or something), video games are the last thing on my mind.

>>381627550
>wow look guys I climbed around in a bunch of crevices

It's this fucking attitude that's causing it, I can't explain it but you see it so much on 4chan, why are people here so cynical?

You hold yourself back from so many fun life experiences because you somehow see yourself as better than others

You need something that makes you go "OH SHIT I GOTTA CHECK THAT OUT"

doesnt have to be new, or old, or hard, or easy, or even good (like you need to experience how bad something is first hand), but you need that initial head turn

>>381627631
video games are very unhealthy

>>381627685
this anon speaks the truth

>>381627536
what the hell is nootropic

>>381627538
keep looking anon. Think about the kind of things your interested in and explore those. You also might find things outside of your current interests.

Honestly? Talent doesn't matter as long as you're passionate about something and keep at it. Experience is often mistaken for raw talent. Success isn't necessary, but usually just comes along with time and passion.

>>381627020
You don't have to specify anything but how situations make you feel. That's all. Because once you say one thing at the top of your mind and you already have a full hour to discuss it and deconstruct it as far as you can.

>>381627349
>>381627486
>don't mention everything
>>381627282
>>381627548
>tell them everything

who am i supposed to believe

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>>381621109
Linking this as a reminder.

You can gain control. You may not achieve your wildest dreams, but everything starts with taking control of your own mind. This is the true meaning when someone says to get your priorities straight. Choosing what is important to you isn't about finding a good job. It's about culling everything from your mind that serves you no purpose but to drain you.

If you can cut away the extraneous things and train yourself to ignore the background noise of the world, you'll find you have more energy than you ever thought you had to devote to your personal life.

>>381627353
Until we are at thi anons level we have nothing to complain about.

>>381628043
Points for the Launch gif.

>>381628043

Can confirm this from the odd fact that once I stopped living w/ roommates who liked to get fast food for almost every meal I rarely if ever get fast food now that I live alone.

There's just something enjoyable about I dunno... cooking your own fucking food for the same cost as a combo meal but the food lasts for 2-3 days and doesn't make you feel like shit.

Fuck bad people and bad habits.

>>381627990
Brain drugs.

>>381627538
>>381627997
Something I forgot to say. Try taking some one-off class/workshop. If you can't afford it, there are things that you can try for free mostly. There's a number of possible positive results here:
>you find it's cool and continue with the thing
>you don't continue the study but have an added appreciation for it
>you find it's dumb as shit but at least you got out and tried it, and may have an interesting story because of it
>you might meet some people who also think it's cool or dumb
>you meet some weird as fuck people and can tell other cool people about those weirdos

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>>381628042
tell them everything, except the illegal shit, I guess

>>381627990

The third game in the StarTropics series we never got because Nintendo is filled with assholes who don't want me to ever be happy.

>>381625340
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>>381625837
>>381626760
>>381626975
>>381627174
Thanks for the advice. It seems like most of it boils down to "just find something to do and go try to do it". That is probably a good idea but I just don't have the desire to even try anything. Nothing seems very interesting or feels like I'd really get what I'm looking for out of it; or rather I should say, none of the "end goals" of a task are things I'm interesting in (money, children, a skill, etc). I guess the issue is that all my life I (and I guess most people) always started things for some tangible end goal that performing that process brings, and currently none of those end goals interest me.

So it follows then that I need to find and enjoy a "journey" to a destination, not the destination itself, but its hard to have such a vague thing drive you to begin something in the first place; you can't see and appreciate the journey for what it is until its over, and it might have ended up being shit experience you would have rather avoided in the first place.

I don't know, life's gotten too complicated. I just want to be a retard kid drooling over mario 64 graphics again.

>>381628219
Knowing your audience is important.

>>381628245
Not exactly what I mean, but I'm proud you found a way to feel better. You bring up an EXCELLENT point though.

You will subtly become like the people you hang around. It's not a matter of self control at that point; it's human nature. However, you can control who you hang around. Even if you actively hate who you are near, you'll pick up weird habits and natures from being near them.

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>>381628042
Tell them stuff that can't compromise you in deep illegal shit.
Other than that be honest, or the treatment won't work.

>>381628245
>Can confirm this from the odd fact that once I stopped living w/ roommates who liked to get fast food for almost every meal I rarely if ever get fast food now that I live alone.

Can't stand this.
I like getting fast food every once in a while, say like a picking up a game (if I don't already have shit to make at home) or friends wanna have a game night. Not so keen when it's housemates that can't be fucked to wash their own damn dishes and pinch shit you bought.

>>381628473

>you can't see and appreciate the journey for what it is until its over,

No anon, YOU can't see and appreciate the journey for what it is until it's over. I wish you luck in trying to.

>>381625837
>I won the lottery a few years ago and, while not an extreme amount, I found myself in a position where I am never going to want for anything else in my life.

I don't think that'll ever happen to me.
There's always shit I want, the problem is a lot of that shit is serial XD

>>381628518
>You will subtly become like the people you hang around.
I hate this. There's a guy I work and interact with every day that I like as a friend, however I don't want to live like him at all or adopt his attitudes. I'm not in a position to do something different yet but have to be conscious of not conforming to his bad habits.

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How do you start doing the things you know should be doing? I've thought and thought endlessly about my situation, weighted in all my options, written out all I want to do, what I can actually do within my means, and what I should be doing so I can start progressing. I've mapped out everything. And yet I've not done a single thing about all of it, I have it all there, but I do nothing with it or about it. It's even stuff I'm interested into, things I like and would like to get into more besides my current superficial knowledge. But still, nothing.

How do I start? How can I start? Why do I just do nothing instead of doing what I know what I should be doing? Why I am so scared of doing something for myself? Why I am so scared of failing at doing those things when I am a failure already it would be just one more drop of water in the ocean? Why do I fear change when it would be a positive one where I end up changing myself for the better?

I hate myself for knowing and yet not doing anything and just wallowing in self-hate and self-pity at my own uselessness

>>381628416
Thanks, anon

>>381619030
depression isn't even real you stupid retarded faggot. man up and stop blaming everyone else for your problems

>>381619030
Think of your favorite series you didnt finish. Go back and do it.

I think a part time, low responsibility job is good for NEETs, humans are imperfect creatures who adapt so quickly, we begin to become blinded by how privileged we really are because it all becomes normalized so fast.

The same thing happens with free time, you have so much of it, at first it's great, but it becomes a burden as you get used to it, leading to the NEET depression.

You have to frequently experience what it is to NOT have, to enjoy having, otherwise you forget the feeling of not having, and begin to stop appreciating having.

That's why I recommend doing 2 days/week at walmart or some shit place to limit your free time, so you can keep remembering that having free time is great.

Plus you get more money and a chance to socialize, as much as you hate people, ANY human becomes depressed without social interaction, it's how our brains are wired.

>>381622662

>I don't understand depression and I'm not going to bother reading the thread
>here's my 2 cents

A lot of people know they are the problem. There is nothing wrong with posting on /r9k/ or posting on Gamefaqs

>>381628518

I'm glad I brought up a good point at least. The situation I described was a bit more multi faceted than I mentioned. The roommate who liked to get fast food also was good at cooking to a point and was a bit of a controlling dick if I made attempts to cook (always butting in, telling me I wasn't doing something right, etc) which gave me a bit of a complex about cooking if he was around so I just stopped bothering to cook.

I've always liked cooking though and now that I live alone I do it all the time because I don't have anyone here judging what I'm cooking or telling me I'm not doing it the way they think I should do it.

So like you said in a way, human nature, although I guess I was more trying to conform to the 'tribe' I was with at the time and not rock the boat so I went with the flow that was given me.

I will say my friend liked to go out and his habit of doing so has kept me in my solitary state from just hermiting all the time as I do go out on a daily basis when I really could just stay cooped up inside all day.

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>>381623078
where else can I go?
The rest of the internet is full of twits, morons and dipshits. Gaming websites and forums seem to be massive congregations of all the tasteless faggots that I hate the most. People here aren't much better but at least I can have the occasional thread on games like Baiten Kaitos and Tropico that would be completely overlooked on shitholes like Neogaf and Reddit

>>381619489
i've been trying to write an answer for this for 10 minutes and couldn't come up with anything proper
maybe i just don't have depression and am lacking motivation

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>>381624323
Samefag all the way. If it wasn't for the buds I knew, I'ld be gone a long time ago. Here's a hug from me bud.

>>381628925
yeah FUCK HAITI

Whenever I feel sad I just remember https://youtu.be/KJsn_C9rvIQ and think of happy days killing robots with robot dog.

>>381629098
only beta males get "depressed".

>>381619489
My brain isn't wired right.

>>381628858
I'm moderately successful in life anon, yet I still have these same conflicts. There are things I want to do and can see the steps that would need to be taken to open those opportunities, yet I still find myself at night deciding to play some dumb, endless competitive game instead of taking one of the steps that night.

Even so, I think the problem comes from knowing the end result is so far away, so keeping in mind and wanting what you're gaining from each step is important.

And you need a whiteboard or something taped up on the wall to remind you of what you'd gain with the next step and in the long run.

I don't do this btw but I think that's what I need to do.

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>>381629409

each time i play an online game like overwatch it's all fun and games and then the match ends and you're back into the main menu and you start to feel so anxious and sad it's a big hole inside your chest that you can't fill
that is the worst feeling ever for me
am dealing with noises in my head and i have to keep myself busy so i won't hear them daily

>>381628858
I'm similar to you in this regard.

So we both know the only way to get it done is to do it. No one is ever going to force you. You don't have to feel like doing something to do it. Once you actually start taking steps, it will become easier. You may actually start thinking about how stupid you were to be scared.

That's how I've felt any time I've ever taken initiative, anyway. Sometimes you just have to power through it and set your mind on the future.

I remember as a kid being in trouble for something. When my parents would ask me what I did and whatever, I would always clam up and not be able to speak. One day I told myself I can obviously talk, if I wanted to, and I'm just scared. Once I say the words it's a done deal, it's over. That's kind of what I always think back to.

Hope you do better for yourself.

I feel some sense of pleasure comes from the responsibility of having a task, and completing it. It takes self-discpline when you set the responsibility yourself.

I vowed to start looking after my body, mind and soul, so I started working out, studying maths, meditating, eating well, learning how to dress etc, it really breaks the day up, and nothing feels better than booting up my favorite vidya after a hard workout or study session

We're surrounded by boards dedicated to hobbies and self-improvement, pop by some of them some time

>>381628042
Don't mention the word suicide under any circumstances.

At that point you're basically a criminal being interrogated by a police officer. I learned that lesson the hard way, you don't need to make the same mistake i did anon.

>>381629140
Holy shit this. For some reason I have yet to find any other website where the general atmosphere and community is as fun and honest. Even though the impermanence and anonymity leads to trolling, outside of that it just allows for people having an honest discussion while also fucking around.

It's a shame that the general public has yet to see past the "shitty" image that 4chan gives on the surface.

Also, this opinion is mostly relegated to /v/ since it's pretty much all I visit outside of /gif/

>>381619489
I've been in and out of depression since my early teens. I feel like I always know the underlying reason behind it but instead of trying to fix it or ignore it I just end up thinking about it nonstop until it consumes my mind. This time I'm depressed over something so ridiculous I wouldn't even think about telling a psych about it, or 4chan for that matter. It's weird. I just graduated college, I've already had some cool opportunities, I cook well, I used to read a lot, and I have high ambitions but because of this one thing that I know has no real significance in my life I can't seem to do anything but sit on the couch and shitpost all day. Yeah, I have no gf, I rarely get out, and have few friends but that shit doesn't even matter to me compared to this one really stupid thing.

>>381628858
Start with cleaning your room.

>>381619489
I'm 25 years old and I still work a shit retail job where I'm not appreciated. Student loans have fucked me over and I won't be able to get back into school until next year at the earliest. And I still live with my parents.

I'm a virgin and I've never been in a romantic relationship until recently when I finally met a cute girl that actually liked me for some reason. Then I got too clingy and ran her off and we aren't talking at the moment and I'm in fucking agony because I actually really like this girl. And it doesn't help that one of my best friends has a new girlfriend he started seeing at the same time and they are completely inseperable.

Also, just having clinically diagnosed depression. That'll fuck you, too.

/blogpost

>>381619030
Stop frequenting /v/.

>>381629393
Actually when I'm trying to get motivated to work, listening to some upbeat music from a game or movie I really works. All the stage music from ARMS has been my most recent go-to https://youtu.be/GxYHppnSkgY

>>381625242
>exercise plenty
>it doesn't kill the intense self-loathing

>>381623078
I find good stuff here from time to time. The social aspect is trash but it's got some good shit sometimes. /co/ story time threads are the best.

>>381619489
I could give a sob story about how my parents were utter failures at raising me or even being there for me. I could go on about the relatively crappy life I've had compared to 90% of the population, but honestly there's no real point to it. I don't sleep, but I don't have to dream anymore either. I don't actively suffer anymore, but the joy I waited for never comes. Neither does the pain, or really any feeling besides brief flashes of anger and tiredness once in a blue moon anymore. I can put up a good front in front of people, but that's all that it is, a front. I can't connect with people, and I'm finding myself having less and less reasons to do so as time goes by as well. I don't know if this feeling of, I don't know, emptiness, is what you'd call depression or not, but life feels like I'm just watching it rather than it being affected by me. The grit and determination I had as a child, the desire for a better life I held onto, it all just seems to have been worn away.
The worst part is, I'm not even that old by most standards of judgment, reasonably speaking I should have many more happy days in the future, somewhere. But I can't see it, I can't see the path there. Something in my brain must have been fried for me to feel like this for the past decade of my life. But for the life of me I can't seem to bring myself to fix it, not anymore.
Sage for blogshit.

>>381628925
>brain merely pretending to be fucked
http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/pet-scan/multimedia/-pet-scan-of-the-brain-for-depression/img-20007400

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>>381621109
>Clinically depressed
I'm diagnosed with that and on anti-depressants. I could easily relate to all of the issues or feelings that majority of you guys have. It's fucking tedious and monotonous to the point it just sucks you out and you feel empty and apathetic. Depression could really fuck you up bad and it already did it to me.

But seriously anons, have you guys considered thinking about your depression? Seriously, ask yourself on what is causing you to feel like shit that is inevitable. You need to think deeply about it. Why do you do what you do? Finding out the cause and finding ways to get rid of it is the best thing in your life.

I'm not kidding anons, but do something about it. No matter how negative or pessimistic you are, fucking push yourself to change it. Back in early 2017, there is this one thing that made me very depressed to the point I cried every night. But guess what? I found out the problem and now I'm fucking feeling happier and greater than before. I'm doing stuff that makes me happy like bike riding and making music.

Honestly anons, I don't care how ugly, fat, or miserable you are. I want to go to your house and push you everyday to make yourself feel better. You could change yourself to be better.

>>381628925
>depression isn't even real you stupid retarded faggot

You can feed a baby and not give it love. The baby will die.

>>381630740
I don't think the baby will die, but it'll certainly be highly maladapted to any sort of socialization, since last I recall that's when we build the baseline of what we expect human interaction to be like.

>>381619489
I'm a neet, but i feel depressed even more when i have to work.

>>381630536
you know that you can change your brain scan through the smallest amount of willpower, right?

stupid fucking idiot. grow a pair and quit whining

>>381630872
>dismissing studies you didn't conduct

Alright anons, I've been on this discussion for almost 2.5 hours now and have got to close the tab or I'll keep coming back to check it. Great thread, and I hope you all find the things you need in life.

>>381621427
I always like reading shit like this
Was tubbo in HS but sold weed so i had plenty of pussy and friends
Moved to the city and partied and got laid all the time
Now i live in seattle and i work at a weed shop and just started my own grow op
All this without ever stepping foot inside a school after HS

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What do you for the "pain" of depression, /v/? My clinical depression causes me actual physical pain; I wish I could take a nice, hot bath but my tub doesn't get any hot water.

>>381630684
Dealing with depression would probably be easier for me if I actually did have someone who was committed to my betterment. Even so, I don't want to hold anyone hostage like that.

>>381624927
I spent little money on steam and through use of game copy trading vs keys (before buying a game as a gift had a 2 months lock period), heavy discounts, flash sales, humble bundles, and giveaways of free games i've acquired over 300 games.

>>381631206
So did someone actually make a study with a control group of "loved" babies and a group of babies who just got the essentials to life taken care of or something? Because if that's true, which I find unlikely, goddamn that's morbid, and quite probably inhumane.

>>381619030
Anyone else sad knowing the people you love are going to die in your life?

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>>381629409
>He thinks he's alpha for posting on /v/

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>381631451
http://stpauls.vxcommunity.com/Issue/Us-Experiment-On-Infants-Withholding-Affection/13213

It wasn't intended to kill, they just wanted to see the effects. There's actually quite a bit of medical scandals, the most gruesome of which involve nuclear medicine.

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>>381619489
I've been out of high school for almost a month and I still haven't gotten a job or my license

>>381631598
I'm beta as fuck, but I'm not deluded enough to think that depression is real.

Man up you fucking spineless weaklings.

>>381619030
Out of depressive slumps; conquest and struggle are drugs unlike anything else. Nothing beats the adrenal rush of an icy shower after an hour or two of cardio for me. I bled from my heels while I ran and it drove me that much further forward. Just stop fucking playing video games if you're burnt out on them. If vidya is honestly the only validation you can afford yourself, you're in desperate need of either a purpose or another outlet to channel your most basic human functions.

>>381631123
Willpower doesn't even exist

>>381627486
>suicidal thoughts
Why? What will they do if you tell them about that? I might be going to see someone soon and just thought I might as well be honest about that.

>>381631938
>betacuck trying to feel empowered by making fun of sick people

>>381632007
yeah bro, lebron james just became the best baskeball player by accident :^)

it was all a prank!

>>381623078
We get used and addicted to it. I barely even play games anymore but I still shitpost on /v/. I'm not a loser but I still go on /r9k/ etc.

We keep browsing in hopes that we'll find an interesting post in the middle of a hundred shitposts, as if we're searching for diamonds in the mud. And we can't connect to most other sites like reddit and with real life people because who would understand internal jokes that only people who browse here can grasp?

>>381631938
You're looking like the atheist who picks fights in a church right about now.

I would never kill myself. I know there's always something to look forward to and things can always get better. I think suicide is one of the dumbest things you can do.

But what does it mean if that voice in my head keeps going "is it time to kill myself yet" like I need periodic checks to see if my conscious self has changed it's mind? Is it just my subconscious crying for help?

>>381630684
I started thinking a lot about my life and existence for that exact reason and ended up at solipsism, not such a great outcome. I've only been able to not get any closer to suicide by half convincing myself that something will happen that will prove my conclusion wrong and because the one time I got close I had a bad panic attack or freakout or whatever so I'm probably too much of a pussy to go through with it anyway.

Maybe it's not so bad though, I have kind of bounced back since then and am making some kind of effort to improve myself. sorry for blogging

>>381632037
you'll get put on suicide watch, that shit goes on your record, nobody will hire you and everyone will know about it

>>381632218
It definitely was an accident.
Thats what genetics are.

>find a girl and get married
lmao great advice

>>381623078
People love to shit on it, but /v/ introduced me to some interesting games, and there are sometimes interesting discussions too.
Also it's because complaining is easier than doing something, and it gives an ego boost by putting you above the average poster.

>>381632571
>solipsism
I understand and feel like I'm truly the only one. But thinking about that is fucking scary and probably cool because you could think it as your own personal sandbox and stuff after death.

>>381632604
That's fucking ridiculous, I'm glad I found out before going in.

>>381630684
I've seen a state appointed guy and a work appointed guy. Didn't quite get what I needed but I should keep looking.

Think I do need some kind of medication, adjustments to my diet only go so far but I think setting a time to wake up does help.

>>381633372
Set life goals you want to reach, formulate a proper plan to get there.
Schedules are important, sleeping right is part of that. Sleep is generally incredibly important.

Getting sunlight combats depression, same with working out.

Medication is secondary as fuck unless you're in a really really far gone state. Most recommend therapy+medication or just therapy only.

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>feel like shit
>procrastinate like fuck, don't feel like doing much of anything most of the time
>spend a solid amount of time over 5 years reflecting on my actions and why I procrastinate so much
>think it'll help
>all it does is make me feel worse because I know what the problem is but I still won't fix it
>go to multiple counselors and they all come to the same conclusions that I did
>ultimately the only thing in the way of fixing my problem is myself
>still having problems even though I know the source of the problem AND the solution to the problem

motherfucker

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I opened up my heart to Jordan B. Peterson and haven't looked back.

>>381633709
Start small, clean your room.
Start even smaller than that, clean part of your room.
Work your way up.
Procrastination is in human nature, its something you gotta fight and just like many other things its a skill you gotta learn with practice.

>>381633641
>Getting sunlight combats depression, same with working out.

When you live in post-drought California, sunlight is unavoidable and I've dropped 50 lbs from my last weigh in in 2015.

So to hell with you, I need pills.

>>381633641
>working out.
I've been getting /fit/ for 2 months now, it's not working i still have the same thoughts of being a worthless nigger that's not gonna do anything in life

>>381621109
>There's nothing to fight this.

Well, there's downregulation.

In the context of video games, it'd be something like going for a walk and meditating until the fucking bloops and beeps stop.

Or, god forbid, creating something.

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Self loathing is a hell of a drug.

First you just hate yourself. Then you gain an awareness that you hate yourself, and that makes it worse because now you KNOW you are doing something as shitty as hating the last person in the world you should hate. You can't stop, though, cause it's not a willpower thing. It's not like you sat down and made a choice to hate you. So then you begin to hate your hate. Why hate yourself when you can hate your self loathing? You can get rid of it by brute force. This helps.. a little. At times the sheer energy of anger can hurdle you across finish lines, but in time it's the same thing. You feel like shit most of the time.

Then you realize it; You're just doing the same thing in a more inventive way. Hating your self hate is just hating yourself in a new way. It's part of you. Now you just hate yourself more for being an idiot in addition to it. So you hate your hate with a new vigour, and then hate yourself more because you're just hating yourself. You hate your hate hating your hate hating your hate hate your hate.

It spirals out of control and then it's nothing but hate. You get desperate and sharpen your hate in to a spike and stab your hate with it and it all just falls apart. And then a moment of clarity in which you have an opportunity to realize the truth. It was always a choice. Hating yourself was always your choice. You didn't say it in words or thoughts, but by your deeds you are saying you prefer your self loathing and your hate more than ANYTHING ELSE YOU COULD BE DOING. By acting on it you choose it. You prefer this, but that doesn't make sense. Why would you prefer it? The system can't take it. It shatters.

And then you're finally at ground zero of your own psyche.

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>>381634275
Have you done anything towards establishing life goals and working towards them?

Pills wont fix that.

>>381631754
HA, a month, try 6 years.

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>>381634929

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It saddens me to see so many lost souls when the answer to your depression (purpose, self-respect, steady quelling of any apathy, misanthropy, or hate) has been right there in front of you the whole time?

Why haven't you accepted our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ into your life /v/? All you need to do is pray and he will take care of the rest.

"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:"
- Matthew 7:7

"So that we may boldly say, The Lord IS my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me."
- Hebrews 13:6

>>381634589
I do but i can't help but to feel inadequate and that i'm losing time working towards my dream

>>381635631
Another important thing is that you plan in leisure time.
You cannot work 24/7 and thinking you can do that is stupid.

Therapy helped me with things like that.

>>381634589
You replied to the wrong guy and really I've been in situations where I've hit a wall in the things I needed to get done. There's a missing middle part to make my brain less stubborn about tackling shit. There's doing the right thing and there's getting lost in the details, no sense in telling someone to make their dreams come true if they keep getting stuck all the time.

>>381635262
God isn't an answer. It's a feel-good solution.
The reason why "easy answers" are criticized isn't because it sounds too good to be true, it's because they're not personalized solutions as approaching mental health issues often should be.

>>381619030

Switch to a different genre. Works most times. The key is to pick a genre you haven't touched in a while. Racing, platformer, fighting, RPG, shooter. This tends to be my cycle.

>>381619489
I was really close to my grandfather and he died when I was 5, causing me to be a Shinj-tier loser for basically my entire life.
My parents, family and friends are all extremely supportive of me, but I've still got depression because I can't remember or imagine life without it.

>When you bought a game 4 years ago and still haven't taken it out of its packaging

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>>381619489
My parents were drug addicts and failed to raise me.
I was molested by an older man when I was seven.
I've never been in a real relationship.
I live at home at 27.
I'm a financial and social failure.
I'm overweight. (Working on that, though)
I'm watching my parents health whittle away as they kill themselves with pot and alcohol.
I am afraid my creative outlet will never be noticed by anyone.
All my friends moved to another town.
Things never seem to get any better, they just continue to slowly get worse.

I'm not depressed, though. I just want a better life. I want to have friends again. I want to talk to girls. I want people to notice me.

>>381635262
I can't find Jesus in the same way I can't find a waifu. The only person inside my head is me, telling me how hopeless things are.

>like a complete dipshit, followed r9k's advice and got a practice gf
>get attached to the companionship, but never really develop feelings despite how obsessed she gets
>through her, develop the social skills to talk to actual qts
>dont feel attached enough to not cheat, but not alpha enough to not feel like shit every time i do
>dont want to be righteous and leave, because the hookups cant replace the companionship so selfishly try to enjoy both worlds

feel like an asshole, lads.

>>381635927
God is the only answer anon, anything else is material distraction.

>>381637319
You need only ask him for help, and he will help you.

>>381637842
You're abusing her. End the relationship.

>>381637202
>kill themselves with pot

jej

>>381638645
30-40 years of smoking pot kills you, yes.

>>381637202
tell me about the old man

>>381619030
use any videogame as an excuse to watch a podcast while i play it

>>381619489
im working a shitty part time job as a dishwasher/sometimes pizza maker and despite it being part time i feel like it dominates my entire life and my girlfriend doesnt cheat on me or hate me but she doesnt really love me and im really stupid and i dont know what i want to do or go to school for and i feel like my clock is ticking

>>381631754
Literally enjoy it while you can because once you get those 2 things, you will never know what that freedom feels like until you grow old and retire

>>381638692
Well, he's sitting across from me right now, listening to shitty old music on his laptop, in filthy clothes he's been wearing for months because he can't be bothered to change them.

He's a truck driver, but he's only worked a day out of the week at best (gone a couple months without working at all) so far this year. He's always worked seasonally, so we only ever have money during that one season he's regularly working rather than on call. Other times of the year we collect unemployment. (I do his work searches for him, he can't be fucked to do them himself).

He will often refuse to go in places by himself, being too embarrassed about his filthy appearance. Even so, he doesn't bother to clean himself more than maybe once a month.

He plays the lottery 'seriously' and always talks about if we could *just* win Powerball, we'd be set.

My childhood is filled with memories of him fighting with my alcoholic mother, who, when she gets drunk, becomes belligerant and invents all these schemes in her head that she thinks people have done to her. He's put her in the hospital more than a couple times.
Despite that, they still live together, though it is a very strained relationship. They refuse to get divorced, even though they barely spend any time together and haven't slept in the same bed in years.

I don't hate him. But he's an awful human being, just like the rest of my family. Not that I am any sort of model citizen.

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>>381622005
>jerk off way too much
>finally get with a girl
>i start to lose my boner if i stand up for too long because i'm so used to jacking it sitting or laying down
>it doesnt feel good when she gives me the succ
>get inside her
>that doesnt even feel good either
>sex sucks
>i'm meant to be alone

>>381638195
No, it isn't.

The Bible is a collection of stories that can be deconstructed for philosophical or virtuous value, but that's pretty much all it is. We don't know if the real god was the Judeo-Christian one because the Bible derived from stories that existed before it that makes its historical accuracy dubious, though its role in shaping history can't be denied. A lot of the shit that works out about being religious comes from the community that surrounds it, not the belief itself. Even then, that varies as it still depends on personal values. That's something imposed by culture or lifestyle choices, YHWH can't magically impart that shit.

>>381639175
you have to teach her to be good in bed, they don't start that way.

>>381637842
I want to try getting a practice gf.

My issue is money. I have a job but I really want to get another one that pays more money before I even try.

>>381637842
The fuck is a practice gf?

>>381637842
>followed r9k's advice
And that's where you fucked up, you must go back to your containment board.

>>381619489
Wasted years of being neet, no diploma, no job, stuck in a home with drunkard father.
Though it's not really depression. It's just shitty life full of bad choices with no one to blame but me.

>>381639273
Is Jesusposting a new meme on /v/ or something

Just in the past 2 days there's been like 5 threads I've seen with my own eyes that've been derailed with religious debates

>>381619489
I live in Canada

>>381619030
I pace myself as to not get burnt out to begin with. Its been almost a week since I've played any vidya and getting that itch to play. Going to finish up my beer and hop online.

>>381639175
Just stop jerking off so much, easy.

>>381639874
What, did they make fun of you for leafposting on /pol/? I only legitimately feel bad if you live in toronto

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>>381639874
$100.

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>>381639273
It's the freemason handbook, yes it's metaphorical, they wrote prophecies to be made; 666 "mark of the beast" UPC barcode, false flag chaos, a deceived world of pseudoscience.
...Check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJJ_z6pwUrE

>>381639647
When youre too beta to get the kind of girls you want, you get a practice girlfriend. Someone 5/10 or below for one reason or another. You date them to develop more alpha social skills and boost your social status, so you can get the girls you actually want later on. It's something /r9k/ developed to escape loner virginhood.

>>381619030
I just came out of a bout of that. I was sick of playing LoL and Overwatch with my friends, and none of the other 200 games in my Steam library seemed fun anymore. I ended up buying a Switch out of desperation, and it did wonders for me. I've been having a blast with couch multiplayer games, and actually inviting my friends over instead of just chatting on Discord is a whole different dynamic. I wouldn't say get a Switch unless you like Nintendo, but even just dusting off the ol' PS2 and playing some Battlefront 2 with your buddy could breathe new life into your gaming routine.

>>381640068
The cost of everything here is crazy.

>>381640061
What if it doesnt come back?

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>>381635262
cuz jesus is a fag,

had a fucking whore in his entourage and she never fucked him because he was such a white knighting beta lol.

>>381619030
I actually got medicated and it made a fuckton more difference than whatever "live, laugh, love - neckbeard edition" advice idiots here like to give.

>>381640207
Not too crazy in Alberta, the downside being theres nothing really to do in Edmonton but I have vidya for that

>>381619489
I've never been in a relationship, I've wasted the past 2 years of my life doing absolutely nothing, I'm a coward and I make impulsive desicions that I immediately back out of, I'm lazy and I hate myself for it.

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>>381638665
nah, but being indoctrinated basically will

who cares about what one has, we have eternity
got food and internet right now, right

>>381640648
This is close to me but i'm doing a degree so thats technically not absolutely nothing. Not really depressed about it but that's probably just because i'm apathetic about almost everything

Jiu Jitsu

Some of you motherfuckers need someone to talk to

>>381624323
Why do you fear death? It can be such a peaceful thing my dude.

>>381621109
Does meditation make the bucket fill up quicker?

>>381641064
Not that anon but it's the permanence, if I think about it too much it really fucks with my mind

>>381641209

just think of it as sleeping.

no thoughts, no pain, no worries. it'll be great.

>>381641209
Same here to be honest but it can't be that bad

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>>381641209
>all ancient cultures knew life is an endless cycle until a bunch of slavers started forcing the tales and pseudoscience of finality and futility on the world

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>>381639273
>>381639791
I'll grant you that you need to believe in God in order for religion to be meaningful to you. Ultimately there is no empirical proof of God, that's not how God works.

You need to understand your relation to the divine. We're talking about a literal infinity, this is a concept that is fundamentally unfathomable to the human brain (just as irrational as trying to contain an infinite set within a set one). As Saint Augustine said, if you understand it, it's not God.

First and foremost, God is a monotheistic. As Immanuel Kant demonstrated, differentiation is a transcendental aspect of human cognition, not something inherent in the world itself. To put it simply, we see difference in the world, while the world (outside of human perception) doesn't differentiate.

The Abrahamic religions are the only monotheisms that hold to the ultimate oneness of the Godhead.

I'll grant you another point, you have to accept the whole revelations schtick. You need to believe that God cares about humanity enough to stoop down to our level and communicate with us (and in Christianity's case, became us). All of the Abrahamic faiths have common prophets (Abraham, Noah, Moses etc,) all of whom claim these two basic tenants: God is One and God has revealed stuff to us.

Then we get to Jesus, a prophet in all three Abrahamic religions (the most quoted prophet in the Qu'ran) but Judaism and Islam seem to ignore his claims to being the Son of God. So we're presented with a major prophet who has historically been recorded saying he is the Son of God and we must choose whether to believe him or not.

Christianity is the only religion that makes sense, respecting the necessary role of a monotheistic God and due consideration of the Son of God, our lord and saviour, Jesus Christ.

Be gladdened anon, this should not be bad news. Humbly pray for help and the path will be laid before you.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6%3A9-13&version=KJV

>>381619489
>suck at life
>only have one very close friend
>no job
>no degree that's worth mentioning
>never really achieved anything in life
>fail at suicide
>parents keep calling me a disappointment in front of my relatives
>hate everything and everyone except my friend

>meet this girl online
>fall in love with each other
>very intelligent, edgy as fuck humor and looks incredibly cute
>actually accepts me as who I am
>feel true happiness for three years of my life

>things go wrong eventually
>best friend kills himself, don't know how to handle it
>start falling back into hating the entire world
>she doesn't even try to be there for me due to having her own problems
>she breaks up half a year later
>a mere month after that, tells me she loves someone else
>tells me about a dude that killed 2 people, gets regularly fucked with a strapon, etc
>lose everything I ever loved and get cucked

>decide I can't handle it
>jump from 12 meters height
>survive
>tell them I slipped while fixing something on the roof
>have dozens of broken bones, get out of hospital
>try to seek help
>meet three experts, all of which don't really give two shits about my problems

>inject air into my veins
>finally lose consciousness after feeling my heart struggle
>wake up in hospital
>again
>they tell me someone saw it (I did it deep into a forest where nobody would find me)
>have to go into mental hospital

>get held captive like an animal
>can't eat what I want, can't eat when I want, can't go outside, can't even wear my own clothes
>have to endure other mentally ill people screaming and freaking out all day
>feel worse every day
>get my phone for only 1 hour a day
>just wasted 10 minutes of which to post this

I fucking hate existence
Why can't a man just die when he wants? It's not fucking fair. We're being born against our will and have to suffer against our will.

>>381641635
>finality
No reason to believe anything otherwise
>futility
not a nihilist, I can still find meaning in an impermanent life

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>>381628043

>It's about culling everything from your mind that serves you no purpose but to drain you.

this shit right here is why I've been staying away from 4chan for longer and longer periods of time.

this place drains you because you're being exposed to high levels of ambient negativity. moving away from it has replenished my self confidence more so than i expected.

>>381641698
>get my phone for only 1 hour a day
>in a mental hospital
Nice lie my man.

>>381625008
>Have over 500 games
>Played less than a hundred

You think /v/ not playing games was supposed to be fucking funny?

>>381641871
>muh merican laws apply to the entire world
Fuck off.

>>381641817
everything in reality is cyclical
>except consciousness, the exception!
hilarious

>>381641991
>everything in reality is cyclical
Source?

>>381619489
>Need money to study
>No jobs in the shitty town
>The second any do appear hundreds jump after it
>Can't move out/move towns because no money to do so
>Government sheckles go to support family
>I just want to make something of myself but any way to improve myself requires fucking money I can't get

It's an endless fucking cycle. I see people bitching about their dead-end wagecuck jobs and I'd fucking kill for one.

>>381641991
Not a fan of entropy eh?

>>381641958
Don't listen to the loser anon, I've also been in a mental hospital and it's true.

>>381642072
>tfw i'm literally in the same situation

>>381639791

i kind of like jesusposting. its sparks a level of philosophical debate I haven't seen on 4chan in years.

>>381641662
>I'll grant you that you need to believe in God in order for religion to be meaningful to you.

No, you don't. You can analyze religion while being indifferent to them and deconstruct what the stories mean.

It isn't an answer, but it does have value.

>>381641662
GET YOUR COCKSUCKING GOD OUT OF MY 4CHAN!

>>381642261
Sure, you can analyze religion from a socio-cultural or literary point of view, but that wouldn't really qualify as being religious.

>>381642102
I just don't get the idea of feeling for others.

>>381642045
water, food chain, all energy, life cycles?

>>381642423
>several minor, non-permanent cycles on a single planet and one that is not even slightly cyclical
>everything in reality
Woah there, you could have at least spouted something about the big crunch if you wanted to sound convincing.

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>>381641662

i think your forgetting about the significance of Buddhism, where divinity comes from oneself, and is not doled out by an exterior entity.

Spirituality does not need to come from the belief of another, but can come from the strength of within.

>>381642351
That's not the point. You said belief is necessary for religion to be of value, I don't think that's true at all. It's just not going to be valued in the way you want it to be. It may have an impact on society or history, but it's not the answer to all of life's problems. It's a totem at best, it may help someone center themselves if they believe that's the thing that centers them but there's easily other rituals or support systems that do just that as well.

People who aren't religious can see the value of religion by getting the underlying or recurring messages that flow in life and culture, but believing it literally and expecting results from it is quite the stretch if you're talking about life changing stuff.

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>>381642701
I can understand the sentiment, but I think you're underestimating how close God is to you. Closer than your heart within your chest. As Wittgenstein said "“I believe that one of the things Christianity says is that sound doctrines are all useless. They have to change your life." Christianity is, ultimately, not an armchair philosophising or a daily prayer, but a living force within your life helping you to become who you really are. Give up yourself to discover your real self.

This is something I believe Buddhism and Christianity have in common, destruction of the ego in order to attain a state of enlightenment/grace.

>>381642773
Fair enough, that was a sloppy sentence on my part. Should have been "I'll concede that you need to believe in God in order to become a Christian"

>>381642773
>believing it literally and expecting results from it is quite the stretch if you're talking about life changing stuff.

I think you're wrong and my evidence is the entirety of Western civilization.

>>381643335
I almost wish I actually still believed in christianity. I just can't bring myself to believe in something with only one source material of questionable origin that happens to be a very convenient way to control the masses.

>inb4 fedora edgelord
not like that at all, I understand why people need religion but I just can't personally bring myself to believe

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>>381643453
I'm talking about the individual's life, I already know the effects on Western society, that is not the aim. The Jesusfag was proselytizing with the aim it was a panacea for depression and dysfunction, politics and culture are another matter entirely.

>>381643589
That's basically how I am. I wish I could believe and get all the good feelings that come with that, but it's just too hard when you look at its actual affect on people, the hard to reconcile things it contains, and most importantly the fact that I've never actually experienced something to make me believe.

I try not to look down on religious people even if they're just delusional since I know I'm weak too, but just too cynical for it I guess.

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>>381643589


I think what you're touching on is the Machiavellian side of Christianity, using it as a political tool. I know it's hard to stomach stuff like that, just as much as pedophile priests and the Westboro Baptist Church types, but you (and you >>381643831) need to understand that there is Christ, and there are the actions of those within Christianity. The actions of those people has no effect on your relation to Christ. I hope you do both come back to the faith, I understand that it's hard to believe (and honestly a period of atheism is probably healthy to better understand one's faith) but know that it will always be here for you, no matter what.

If you're happy without religion then I would never think of forcing it on you, I don't think that's conducive to sincere conversion, but know that it will always be here for you. Christ loves you, death is dead, we have work to do brothers.

>>381643656
Not him but I don't think you can disentangle the products of a people under a faith with the faith itself. That seems like picking and choosing.

You have to concede that the majority of Western Civilization exists today because they were Christians, with all that that implies and not just the socio-economic remnants.

>>381619030
Reading for a while, working out at the gym extra, focusing on other shit. Sometimes a good break is what you need.

>>381643831
Yup, right there with you anon. Hard to shake those feelings since the church tithed my ancestors on my fathers side into poverty for generations

>>381643831
The funny part is those "delusional religious people" are stronger than you will ever be.

>>381644025
I'm young enough that my mortality doesn't enter my mind often enough for me to think about these things all the time, so for now i'm happy this way. That said I can appreciate your approach anon, you seem like a good dude

>>381625345
Yeah its weird. I primarily play on PC but I seem to put more consecutive hours of gameplay on a console due to the almost sandboxed environment.

>>381630110
Man, this rings so many bells it's scary. All I can offer is this:

Be kind to yourself.

It's a shitty situation and it's going to take years of baby steps to get better, but you'll get there anon. Try to enjoy your own company in the meantime and try not to be to hard on yourself.

You deserve to be happy.

>>381644872
In console you are so restricted that you only turn it on for games, really.

>>381619489
I'm really good at almost everything I do. I do well at my job and make enough money to pursue a lot of hobbies in my free time. I can get anything I want if I invest the time into it. Anything except meaningful social interaction. No matter how much or in what way I reach out to people they never reach back. I only ever get out as often as I organize something and invite people. It's draining.
I'm over here building my empire of awesome shit and I've got no one to show it to or share it with. The few friends I have just don't seem to care about me enough to invite me along anywhere.
In my dreams I'm really attractive and girls flirt with me a lot even if they aren't interested in much. But I wake up and I'm somehow repulsive. I dont know what it is about me that sucks so much and I can't fix it. Kinda makes it hard to enjoy anything.

Depression is not the same as being burned out. Depression makes you don't enjoy things that you usually like. It's a mental illness and requires medical assistance.

Being burned out is different, and the solution here is to take a long break from playing.

>>381619030
Unironically just take a step back and realize what video games are. They are literally a toy. If you don't enjoy the toy it doesn't mean you have to throw the toy out, just take a break. Find another "toy" to fuck around with. Take up an instrument or start reading more. Hell, just find another console or system to play. If you grew up with the Super Nintendo, maybe try some Genesis games or vice versa. Just try to mix stuff up.

>>381619489
I have no skills, not many interests, no hobbies, no special qualities, no talents. I also always feel bored and bland as hell. I don't have much fun.