KOREA TIME - Starcraft Brood War

>>361955501

Twitch:
gsl

Youtube stream doesn't appear to be on.

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>>361955501
bout time
was gonna post myself

Flash > Sea
Movie > Rain
Flash > Movie
Movie > Sea (upset)

If you're a patrician,
afreeca com afstar1

>>361955634
oh and Sea > Rain obviously
maximum kek if Rain knocks out Sea though

tastosis tonight??

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Flahs is not the prettiest player in the world, but he sure is one of the best. He's been out of practice last season. Has he had the time to come back to top form? That's the question.

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>>361955712

Yes. Artosis wanted to spend time with his family. What a fucking faggot. Nerd casting comes first in your life.

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>>361955719
He is unique looking for sure, but I wouldn't call him ugly.

If he took better care of himself and styled himself properly he can look great

>>361955783

Can we get these old memes going? I never saved ANY of them.

I remember one from the ORIGINAL Starleague, of like 2007, an MSPaint image of Tasteless riding a Reaver.

>>361955783
Flash still needs to prove himself in the return era after his embarrassing exit last season.

If he loses this group he'll be the only one of Flash/JD/Bisu/Stork who didn't make it to Ro8

aww yiss
time for comfy

>>361955838
He isn't flash of old, but he is still statistically the best player on Fish according to his winrate.

Tasteless needs to groom his beard more.

>>361955838
>>361955719
I think Flash gets overrated at times, but him last season was fresh out of SC2.

>>361955916
This, he's been absolutely destroying people online.

is flash god again yet?

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>>361955835

>>361955934

He needs to shave his beard, and work out. His arms are tiny.He's getting older, and once you hit your 30's you need to put effort into yourself. Working out is key.

post yfw Flash gets paired up with IAmMang in ro8

>>361955970
In terms of statistics on Fish for November

1. Flash
2. Last
3. Effort
4. herO

I think it was something like this, Bisu might have been 5th or 6th

>>361956056
people suspected Bisu of discreet smurfing

I miss hour long TvZ on 4 player maps.

>>361955783
Is there a bigger version of this?

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>>361955835

FUCKING FLASH PLAYING QUEEN
SAVIOUR OF THE UNIVERSE

>>361956089
Yeah possible considering he hits top 3 every month, I suspect the same.

Either way Flash is inarguably 1. on Fish, can he translate that into advancing though?

Oh shit it's on tonight, awesome.

I thought it was tomorrow.

>tfw you remember watching Brood War streams 9 years ago back in 2007 with /v/
Never change
titty sambo

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Huge audience for a round of 16 of a 19 year old game. Is BW back in Korea?

>>361956159
>tfw I'd play LoL if it were a 1v1 game where you control 5 units each.

That seems like a regular BW UMS map

I haven't played SC2 since WoL.
Is Terran still Marine/Marauder/Medivac?
Is Protoss still death stack a-moving?
Is Zerg still Mutalisk/Zergling/Baneling?

Please no forward rax again Flash

Rooting for Flash and Sea because we need more Terrans in RO8 but I think Flash and Rain are poised to make through

>>361956270
BW never really left in Korea. They still have active players, as they were saying earlier.

>>361956242

I do too. I remember these threads maxing out and even having to make new ones.

>>361956306

SC2 is dead/dying. This is Broodwar territory.

>>361956332
the pro industry died for a while

holy fuck its tuesday already

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>>361955783

>>361956306
huge buffs to mech for Terran
Protoss is fucking horseshit
Zerg can pretty much make whatever they want, but it's not as bad as protoss

i miss sadkingprime
wonder if his sister pegged him good after he broke down every time

>>361956159
i played with an actual korean pro on league and he would honest to god 1v5 the other team sometimes even after the rest of us fed them. it was insane. he was playing on hit kayle with jungle item.

I made it past port 6112 so if anyone want to play some casual FFA matches on battlenet (BGH?) I'm down

Flash getting proxied

scout that shit soon

Why are these overlays so shitty?
I recall seeing some that show army supply, workers, gas and minerals

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You are not a fan, if you don't remember the incident

Link please

Why doesn't OP post the link at the start?

>>361956508
For Broodwar?

>>361956551
>he isn't able to find the easiest stream
www twitch tv/gsl

FLASH PLZ

>>361956539
I'm not going to fuck over a friend

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>>361956539
I forgot all about Chinro.

>>361956617
Yeah for BW. I know that's built into SC2 but I also saw that for BW

>>361956813
in the olden golden times, they had a shit ton of minions and money to COUNT the fucking shit I think, but yea I remember the overlay too

>>361956351
>SC2 is dead/dying
What happened to it?

>>361957030
>What happened to it?
david kim

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>>361956809

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Flash rapes another korean (male) live on tv.
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

Well played by Flash. I really hope he advances today.

I bet Sea regrets picking Flash for his grp now xD

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>mfw the game

>>361957030
blizz tried to push it hard, but the koreans didn't like it. game in general was ass, because of the new machanics so its dying slowly but steadily.

now that Blizz isn't pushing SC2 anymore, the Gooks are returning to the GodKing game

>>361956479
how do you set up the game to run on modern computers? I had to leave my old computer behind at my parents' house and I can't figure out how to make it display in the correct aspect ratio on my new one.

>>361957030
>What happened to it?

SC2 Inferior
Broodwar Superior.

>>361956306
> Is Terran still Marine/Marauder/Medivac?
There are quite a few options, though MMM is still the heart of Bio Widow Mines, Liberators and Tanks are still used a lot in combination with it.
> Is Protoss still death stack a-moving?
Definitely not.
> Is Zerg still Mutalisk/Zergling/Baneling?
This style is still viable, there is also Roach/Ravager, you can also do stuff with Infestors.

>>361957030
The game was poor and blizzard didn't listen to any of the criticisms from pros. Gameplay went stale and most players saw it as a chore rather than a game

>>361957102
>game in general was ass, because of the new machanics
What exactly was wrong with? What could have been done better?

>>361956895
>>361956508
the overlays were plugins developed practically anonymously and no one kept track of them after BW "died"
and you can imagine developing plugins for BW right now is real shit

this is why you open source folks

Is Tasteless Halal now?

>>361957118
abathur plz go

>>361957030
Blizzard wanted control over sc2 events
Kespa wanted stay in control over sc/sc2 events
Blizz lost

>>361956895
it was unofficial versions of the maps that were only used for the gomtv league.

>>361957151
>What exactly was wrong with? What could have been done better?

In general reintroduce mechanics that reward micro and add mechanics that de-emphasize deathballing

>>361957253

How did Blizz lose? Was it a legal case?

>>361957159
I'm pretty sure they elect not to use them.

Despite what you think, people seem to be developing more shit for Brood War than SC2, people just care about this game more.

Shieldbattery for instance.

>>361957030
Blizzard went full retard and tried to wrestle for control with KeSPA, which pretty much ran the entire show and turned esports into an actual thing, including some shit for westeners like the Avartec Intel Classic. When SCII came out KeSPA wanted to remain in control, but being the kikes they are, Blizzard said fuck it and tried to start their own tourneys n shiet. SCII bomber hard, KeSPA moved to LoL which came out around the same time, and you know how the story goes from here.
Blizzard tried to revive SCII several times, including some weird as shit tournaments that had some matches played on BW and others in SCII.

>>361957116
I didn't do anything fancy, just installed with the discs like normal (on windows 8.1). However I have some problems with the text, it all overlaps so I can't really see game names properly.

How do Tasteless and Artosis still maintain this much energy and passion for Starcraft?

>>361956539
what? beating toss with mech didnt usualy happen back then? what? please tell

>>361957352

Blizz tried to strong-arm KESPA. They argued that SC was their intellectual property and thus they couldn't broadcast it without their permission. After BW died I stopped paying attention. How did it resolve itself? Did Kespa take Blizz to the courts and the Korean courts told them to fuck off?

>>361957446
How does James Chen still cry after every EVO?

>>361957446
Some people just really are as pure as they seem.

Someone post the Tasteless/day9 fapping story

>>361957345
sb is mostly just the interface outside of the game and making the game playable on newer computers
but true, people make the argument that not using them makes the spectacle more exciting and I'm inclined to agree

>>361957446

They were obessed with the game as teens. He just lives and breathes the game. I'm exactly the same. Same age. I'm loving this shit. Pro-league shit is just golden.

What if there were more things in SC2 that had splash damage to reduce death balling?

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>>361957498
oh god I don't have it ready but I always remember the last line
>"how was your game"

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>>361957446
Well Artosis cared enough to lose to Day9 year after year in the WCG US finals.

The passion is strong in him.

>>361957517
>Battles are over in .4s instead of one second

>>361957517

No one cares. Dead game.

BW is alive and well.

>>361957314
Kespa boycotted SC2. Meaning its pro players like Flash, etc did not play SC2.

Interest in SC2 died as time went by

>>361957517
>he wants more skillruptors
unit clumping does more to make deathballs than the lack of splash

>>361957463
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/223866-blizzard-kespa-license-official
Yeah, they did take it to court.
I think it was too little too late desu, and coupled with the fact the game is shit it just lost momentum and fucking died a painful death.

>>361957513
Even a few foreigner tournaments have had those supply, mineral, gas trackers, I'd prefer to have them, but I think Koreans see it differently and prefer without

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>>361957498
>>361957543

>>361957517
there's so much AoE in LotV

the problem is that combat is very fast and A-moving is just easier

you can't understand how autistic and shit broodwar is until you've actually watched it
its like if gooks picked up playing competitive zoobeanis because it was fun to play at school and never stopped meming about it

Chill vs CombatEX was the pinnacle of esports commentary and nothing will be as fun as entertaining as this.
Tasteless with Superdanielmlan was kinda fun but I read SDM went insane and is in jail after stabbing a kid in his PC Bang.

>>361957738
they made an Art out of it

>>361957738
Isn't that what we did with Marvel vs Capcom 2?

StarCraft 2 is an Abomination. Long live BroodWar!!!

>>361957517

There were plenty of very minor bugs/changes that Blizzard never fixed in sc2 that had this tendency to promote more brainless playing.

Here are two examples:

1. Armor calculations for siege tank main/splash on protoss units is wrong in sc2. Siege tanks should deal bonus damage to stalkers and collossi. But instead of using their base damage types, siege tank shots were checked against just the shields. Meaning that tanks were much weaker against protoss in sc2 than sc1. Thus the MMM spam against toss.

2. Siege tank turrets cannot turn during a move command. A siege tank can track targets with its main gun as it moves in sc1. With very careful micro its possible for a siege tank to kite a zealot until they have speed (sc1) or charge (sc2). But in sc2, the turret always resets whenever the tank moves meaning you can't micro a tank this way.

sc2 is full of this garbage and many people pointed it out to them. They didn't care.

I never played brood war. Is there no warping for protoss?

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>>361957446
>>361957576
Both got buttfucked by Day9, several times actually, Artosis got eliminated in 3-4 tournaments by Day9 actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0fV5KADifY

SC2 had one of the best community to watch esports, why you had to die? I still think that blizzard deliberate killed sc2 with swarm hosts, none sane would think that this would be a good idea after the broodlord fiasco.

>>361957820
No you fucking pleb

>>361957921

Swam hosts were put of a stupid crusade Blizzard had to just not reintroduce lurkers into the game

>>361957820

No. Everything comes from gateways.

Now, what Toss does is they gobble up the map since their bases are easy to make. If they get gateways in different corners of teh map, they can get surrounds super easily. Very dangerous.

>>361957921
the community is still going on and its still great :3 come join us!
>>>/vg/163825251

I just got here guys. What did I miss so far? Any shit go down?

>mfw wake up and turn korea time on only to see PvP
>contemplate going back to sleep
>"well i wont have to, this shit will put me to sleep"

>>361957921
Really? On /vg/ it was just kpop posting

*a-moves*
bake me a pizza

>that feel when late game ZvZ is literally the only terra incognita left

>that feel when scouts are literally the worst pieces of shit in the game throughout all sc1 history
How could they be fixed if anyone cared to?

>>361957994
>>361957994
>I just got here guys. What did I miss so far? Any shit go down?

Sea v Flash. Sea tried to proxy Flash. Flash held, pushed and won.

>>361957994
God Flash survived another onslaught
PvP ended
and we are discussing why Broodwar is better than SC2

>>361957994
Flash being flash.

Broodwar is back on korea? when will they move on?

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>>361957921
Early GSL days were the glory days.
So much hype, so much fun.
Never again

>>361958070

>i missed a flash game

Goddamnit.

>>361958121
>trash

>>361957921
>I still think that blizzard deliberate killed sc2 with swarm hosts, none sane would think that this would be a good idea after the broodlord fiasco.
What?

>>361957970
wtf is that thread

>>361958112
I remember IdrA and Jinro actually seemingly having a chance to win the tournament, then all the good foreigners decided it's better to just play in ESLs, MLGs and Dreamhacks and left GSL, but let's talk about BW the superior game in this thread

>>361957970
/scv/ died when nony gave that shoutout to /v/. If you're here tyler I hope you feel bad.

>>361958089
Hopefully never because then Tastosis is out of a job. Artosis will go back to banging his korean wife and Tasteless will go back to...I don't know. Judging by how he looks, I guess his current career is mugging people.

i wonder if blizzard is going to update the screen resolution at least.

i'm glad BW is still alive.

why so many sc2 players are on this broodwar tournament? broodwar is back?

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>TvP
worst matchup. too bad every terran is too scared to go for a long game vs flash. havnt seen a 40 minute tvt is a long time

>>361958193
Supposedly they recently hired some manpower to work on legacy titles. Nobody knows what this means or even if they did hire anybody, but the postings were on their jobs page and they were silently removed after a while

>>361958204
Nobody likes SC2, it was just where the money was, now that it's dead the players are going back to the better, more enjoyable game.

>>361958204
Noone plays SC2 anymore

Who was the best Youtube BW caster and why was it Nukethestars?
Also, anyone knows what happened to Cholera?

>>361958239

Why would you ever want to see a 40 minute long tvt?

There was a 30 minute tvt the a week and some change ago that got really boring after mining stage.

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>>361957970
the sc2 general is the most pathetic thread in vg. it has been for the past year. it is just a couple of losers bumping with 5 word posts.

sc2 is dead. nublizzard is crap

koprea plz, I don't want to see weird ass dancing, gib chicken commercials

>>361958065
scouts are perfect for manner
zvz is bo poker through and through, I really want to watch more though just because there are so many subtleties that you can't catch watching a regular pro zvz since you can always say "shit muta control" or "bad response"

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>>361958314
i appreciate true strategy

>>361958296
Saylebw is still around, and still amazing.

Loved his 2011-2012 Proleague coverage + he was actually a decent player-ish, B on ICCUP, whereas Nuke was probably D-

>>361958332
That's Japan. Japan and Korea hate each other because Japan used to have this tendency to rape and murder people a hundred years or so ago.

>>361958391
zvz is the most in depth matchup. Gotta count larva as a resource.

>>361958239
it's okay friend, fantasy will be back from military soon

just for flash to leave himself hue

>>361958440
>he didn't watch ASL1
there were literally 3-4 chicken wing commercials

>>361958403

The only match that is worse is PvP if both players know what they are doing it lasts forever.

pretty funny that blizzard killed bw for sc2 and now sc2 is dead and bw is coming back LOL

I don't know about you guys, but I'm genuine envy of south koreans. Living on my third world country and seeing how strong korea is makes my knees weak. I wish I had born on a good country like this.

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TvP is my favorite matchup.

So do I still have to watch the replay on twitch because the YT vids are always laggy.

>>361958482
Oh, I thought you were talking about Japan's weird thing for KFC during Christmas.

I remember watching a tvt in WoL that went for like 40 minutes and the map was covered in sensor towers and it was basically battleship vs battleship

>>361958520
south kor is pretty cucked from what i've heard

>>361958540
watch the afreeca stream, they even have fpvods

>>361958432
Agreed

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CHOO CHOO
INC FLASH RAPE TRAIN
CHOO CHOO

>in b4 2-1 timing attack 15 minute GG

Why is Flash drinking water like a retard?

>>361958192
Artosis's wife is a white girl

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How many Koreans have brown hair? Noticed Nipponese have 0% brown hair but it pops up among Koreans sometimes.

>>361958557
I just want to watch gook food commercials.
japs and koreans really make outrageous and funny ones

>>361958476
People think ZvZ is a coinflip, but Jaedong had a 80% winrate in ZvZ at his prime, a better wr than his other two match ups.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=211&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2007&from_month=1&from_day=1&to_year=2009&to_month=1&to_day=1&action=Update

LETS GUESS HAIRSTYLE + CLOTHES OF THE INTERVIEW GIRL TODAY

What's the P1 and T7 mean?

>>361958065
Does anyone ever use devourers

>>361958581
yeah SK is run by a shaman

>>361958165
a joke

>>361958065

Scouts get kited by Wraiths, easily overwhelmed by splash from Mutas. They are also the cost of two dragoons roughly.

What scouts have always needed is some ability that gives them some niche, preferably one that helps them with being lone predators since Toss really has no way to harass bases by air.

>>361958192

Tasteless has a nice apartment if you watch his streams. he sometimes streams video games or just talks. He smokes e-cigs.

>>361958661
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>361958598
Remember to stay hydrated.

idiots!!!
scv is amazing!!

A U S T R A L I A

QT GIRL! ANYONE GOT SCREENSHOT?

gook

>there's people defending SC2 on twitch's chat
kek

someone got the cap of the australian chick giving the peace sign and smiling?

>>361958650
protoss 1 o'clock

KATIE

>>361958640
the better zerg will usually win, just like any non mirror matchup. Like I said it's 2deep4 average viewer

T I T T Y S A M B O B O I S

>>361958650
Z/P/T refers to their race and the number is their seeding. Just a quick way to refer to a player.

>>361958584
Do they have the match timestamps on there?

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>>361958650
protoss on 1 o'clock
terran on 7 o'clock

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>Flash measuring his e-penis

>>361958781
>Z/P/T refers to their race and the number is their seeding
>number is their seeding

It's their position on the map. Movie is at one o'clock, Flash is at 7 o'clock.

>>361958918
Learn something new every day.

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reminder that kpop is starcraft related

>>361958652
>Does anyone ever use devourers

In the one in a thousand ZvZ game that gets to Hive, devourers have a niche as breaking muta arms races.

Scouts literally have no point.

>>361958825
>you will never be so confident you can measure your e-penis on stream

feels bad man

RIGGED.

>>361958964
You have a whole general to shitpost kpop in

>>361958970
ZvP versus Corsair reaver as well

>>361958652
in ZVP with mass Corsair Carrier you can use 5-8 devourers to increase the damage to units while Hydra Defiler wrecks Sairs and interceptors

>>361959054
its not allowed there for years now

>>361959054
how is posting sc2 plyers shitposting?

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THOSE MINES

unfair

>You will never see micro like this in sc2

>tfw you can't shake the spider mines

>>361959207
This is korea time, not kpop2.

>massing zealots to break the line
that worked better than expected

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>He didn't remacro the army
Flash is finished

>>361958679
>What scouts have always needed is some ability that gives them some niche

Autotracking turret against ground units similar to siege tanks in tank mode.

holy shit all those Vultures, with that amount he can even kill the goons

>>361959383
Basically a liberator?

IMAEKVULTURE

>>361959470
maek vulture and micro them

>>361958520
being a south korean is a miserable life

HOW CAN NORMAL PLAYERS EVEN COMPETE

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Fuck yeah, Flash is the best

>all the spooky spider noises
triggered

Did Movie go 0/0/0 upgrades the whole game?

>>361959487
ctrl+click > attack area

>>361959451

Not a liberator. Basically a unit that can actually use its speed to its advantage because it doesnt have to stop to shoot ground units. Not fantastic in large groups but perfect for harassing mineral lines or kiting small groups of infantry like marines.

You know, like a scout unit should be able to do.

FLASH AaAAAAAAAA

Flash 2:0!

Officially Bisu, Flash, Stork and Jaedong all in Ro8

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oh my

>>361959451
Literally one of the most cancerous units ever introduced.
>Hey guys lets put map makers in a tony little box of design so we can have a stupid fucking flying Siege Tank

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>how it feels to be flash after this match
>>361958825

>flash gordon playing in the background
lol

How many more matches today?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmrHTdXgK4

>>361958432
I liked Sayle but he's made some really bizarre incorrect calls
Nuke is pretty good

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>>361959579

I miss those Nascar like jackets with logos on them. Will they start wearing them again?

And is Flash /fa/?

>>361959605
OK. so a phoenix that can attack ground units.

>>361959652
we have another 2 matches.
By.Rain vs Sea, and Movie vs the winner of Rain and Sea

>>361959605
You literally already can do that manually, just like wraiths, mutas, and vultures.

I'm gonna fuck that gook

>>361959679
the bassist looks like IdrA at the beginning

>>361959687
>Will they start wearing them again?

there's no teams so probably not

What does Ro8 look like? Is it Group A vs B and C vs D, or A vs C and B vs D?

>>361959679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kzj6wdJuyQ

>all these years later and Flash still shitting on niggers

>>361959780
There was going to be a teamleague until SONIC got into some trouble with his shoe distribution factories. The idea got scrapped when they ran out of money

>>361959793
there is none, after today we are going straight into elim brackets

>>361959682
Sure, but that's because he MAKES calls, where as Nuke just does play by play.

Sayle at the very least knows how to play BW at a decent level, Nuke is legit seemed like a D player

>>361959886
I'm asking what the elim brackets are. I assume it's 1st place winner of one group vs 2nd place winner of other group, but I don't know what groups' winners will be facing off.

>>361959886
He is asking how the seeding works.

>>361959793
I think it's C vs D
Which means Flash vs Hero, holy shit that's going to be insane.

>>361959960
they'll be doing the drawing at the end of today

>>361959960

Probably seeded randomly. Best and jaedong were in the same group in both ro24 and ro16

>>361959825
I was so upset that proleague season when flash broke his undefeated streak in the last round to reaver cheese

Sea always reminds me of Hyung Joon.

>>361959912
nuke was a shoutcaster. He basically just said what was going on, while sayle was a speculating caster,. where he predicted moves.

>>361960010
It's not random.

Somebody who got 1st in his grp, isn't going to face another player who got 1st.

The random part is which 1. player is going to face which 2. player.

Like it's 100% chance that Jaedong will face either Bisu, Flash, Stork or BeSt in the Ro8

>>361960168
Exactly

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Sea vs Rain LIVE!
Movie vs TBD

afstar 112482
Afreeca GSL 8543

Feels good man

>>361959912
>>361960215
>>361960168
Again, I come to the opposite conclusion you do. Not the best example since he was unfamiliar with the maps, but Nuke does provide a fair amount of insight beyond play-by-play that I think you're too quick to dismiss in his ASL1 coverage of Sea vs hero. OTOH, Sayle casting that SPL 2011-2012 final of Flash vs Bisu was really one-sided and, well, wrong. He was watching the game "with you" as much as anyone else.

>>361960220
Is that considered a lot? That's kind of sad.

>>361960296
there are proplayer restreams as well

*spends 10 years playing bw*
*spends 5 years playing sc2*
*switches back to bw*

>>361960296
For a 15 year old niche game in the early morning hours on a weekday in America, that's shockingly good.

>>361960296
considering viewers have more than doubled through the group stages? yes

>>361960296
500k on korean tv

>>361960285
Nobody saw that comeback coming, overall Sayle's analysis was considerably more valuable than Nuke's.

Sayle is no Day9, but he did know what he was talking about at least at the surface level, whereas Nuke never did, Sayle might be incorrect occasionally, but Nuke says straight up wrong

sc2 would have been dramatically improved if collosus was replaced with Reaver, memelings and memehosts were replaced by Lurkers, and Hellions replaced by vultures.

Everything that could punish the damn deathballing that ruined sc2.

>>361960296
game came out in 1998

>>361960469
where did you get that number from?
curious, because that would be amazing

>>361960565
sc2 only would be better if units were 10 times large, with more hp and less damage. When your 50 units army dies in 3 seconds max there isn't any reason to micro.

>>361960510
you fags really like day9 huh

>>361960682
It's not on korean tv

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>>361960775

>>361960565
You'd still have cancer like Racagers, Liberators, Disruptors, Oracles and the Mothership core. And Infestors for that matter.

>>361960745
I don't think anyone really likes Day9 anymore. He fucks around with Hearthstone on Twitch and is generally a sellout.

>>361960810
I am talking about back in time with vanilla sc2. So much of that other trash, like Ravagers, Liberators, and Oracles which all were basically trying to be what lurkers, reavers, and vultures were

>>361960565
They just need to make the units not stack up so tight.

And yeah >>361960721 making units stick around a little longer late-game would be nice.

Where the fuck did sea's vultures go

>>361960969
Infestor Broodlord was true cancer in WoL.

>have to take care of food
>Sea manges to defeat while I left

WHAT HAPPENED FUCK

>>361960745
I like Brood War Day9, not nu-Day9.

People forget Day9 was a legit competitor back in BW, one of the best US players. That's the Day9 I respect not the cat faggot who plays Hearthstone.

>>361961230
rain overextended like fuck

>tfw ghosts in sc2 op
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZl8LJPVP10

>>361961254
>one of the best US players
but what does that even really mean

>>361961230
buddy tried to 1a2a3a into tanks in the middle of the map, then he got steam rolled

stupid protosses

>>361961289
What's the blue dot moving around the screen?

>>361961406

His mouse

>>361961449
His mouse is the little green cursor. There's a large blue dot moving around. It might be an eye tracker or something.

>>361961340
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

>>361961449
>>361961406
His Camera has a tracker in it for his eyes, it's where he's looking.

>>361961289
based winter
our guy

>>361961289
what a shit game. i hate actiblizzard

>>361961406
>>361961449
>>361961527
"Blue circle is !eyestracker"

Eh guys I think it might be an eye tracker.. not sure

What are the twitch viewers at?

>>361961685
9k

>>361961685
9k

>>361961720
>>361961724
500k watching in minecraft

>tfw sound kept fading out
Thought it was the stream, but turns out my speakers are dying. ;_;

>>361961340
Quite a bit actually, he traded games with players like Russian Androide, who got second in 2005 WCG, and beat a Korean to do it.

Realistically speaking Day9 was probably better than Practice Partner level Koreans, and probably just below or at B level Koreans at his peak.

Day9 was pretty good at around 2005-2007

>Tasteless shout out to Reddit

Remember when he gave a shoutout to 4chan? Times's change.

>>361961720
>>361961724

9K is really solid for round of 16.

>>361961783
where did you get that number from?
curious, because that would be amazing

>>361961878
I think he was shittalking Reddit.

>>361961882
b-bully

>>361961878
He was dissing reddit.

sorry for the newfag post, but why isn't this in the starcraft general?

>>361961938
Because there is no Brood War general.

>>361961938
Because this isn't SC2 and a BW tournament is super rare.

>>361961938
Because that general has been taken over by faggots worse than any board I've ever been on

>>361961938

Generals don't swallow all threads. You can have threads for specific events. You can not have 24/7 threads in /v/ forever. This isn't a 24/7 thread.

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who else is watching through minecraft?

>>361961882
its 5 million viewers in china and the LoL client

>>361961938
BW>>>>>>>>SC2

Very different fan bases. SC2 players are butthurt that SC2 is dying off, while its 15 years older brother is going strong

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>that feel when this is just a friend simulator

tvp is so boring early

>>361962079
>SC2 players are butthurt that SC2 is dying off,
>Dying off

More like Dead and Buried. It doesn't even have a weekly league anymore except for Olimoleague, and that's an independent, online league run by a twitch channel funded entirely by patreon.

>>361961969
>>361961987
>>361962003
>>361962012

thanks, that sucks

>artosis sees slow vultures
>"Sea has speed vultures"

>>361962079
thats why there's sc2 at blizzcon and no broodwar right? lol sc2 gets more viewers on that single day than bw gets in years... you're pathetic...

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>>361961938
starcraft general is for shitposting

>>361962129
TvP is super comfy GTFO

>>361962150
True, I just wish there was a bit more of a scene for foreign Brood War.

Hopefully we can get something going again after ShieldBattery gets released.

>>361962213
Ironically, SC2 being at Blizzcon instead of at KeSPA tournaments is exactly why SC2 is dead.

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>>361962213
(You)

>>361962260
yeah so comfy it puts me to sleep

>>361962213
Because Blizzard keeps trying to force SC2?

Fact is BW is more popular in Korea than SC2, and SC2 isn't popular anywhere. Teams are leaving the scene left and right, Leagues are also leaving the scenes left and right.

Blizzard is bleeding cash trying to keep the scene going, etc etc.

Not to even mention that BW is over 3 times older, soo by all logic SC2 should be several times bigger.

SC2 is just a shit game

NERD CHILLS TASTELESS

>>361962267
>if more people watch you're unpopular
are you Justin Trudeau?

>>361962310
PvT is my favorite match up to play, GTFO.

PvP is stressful, PvZ is also stressful. PvT is super comfy both to watch and play

Why isn't movie making immortals?

>>361962363
how many teams does broodwar have? the answer is ZERO, less than sc2 kek
you think this bw tourney is making money?
well considering that this is all a match fixing scam you may be right

SC 1 has way better graphics than 2. 2 looks like toy soldiers and plastic worlds.

>>361962434
>PvP

Lose reaver, buttfucked.

Don't watch your minimap, get stormed, buttfucked

Don't get proper concave, buttfucked

>PvZ

Fuck up the wall, ling runby, buttfucked

Mismicro Corsairs, mutalisks, buttfucked

>PvT

Make expansions and dragons, win

Comfy as fuck

>>361962435
not enough gas

>>361962570
Sprite-based stuff can really stand the test of time if done well.

>Movie's face as soon as he sees the 4th base
>GG

Current power rankings:
1. Bisu
2. Flash
3. Hero
4. Stork
5. Best
6. Sea
7. Jaedong
8. Guemchi

>>361962421
If a company throws a bone to a current product at a marketing event it certainly doesn't mean it's healthy - Canadian or not.

>>361962638

To get the same detail as sprites you need a lot of detail. SC2 just doesn't have the detail required, which is why evertyhing has that plastic look.

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Does anyone know when top 8 is on?

>>361962620
>>PvZ
or
don't fuck up anything, get 3hatch hydra'd, buttfucked

>>361962559
Okay man, see you in 2 years when SC2 is completely dead.

Blizzard tried to artificially kill BW, Blizzard tried to artificially make SC2 into a thing.

Had BW been left alone, it would have still been broadcasting on OSL, had SC2 not been pushed by Blizzard, the scene would have died circa 14/15

>>361962696
>a

They'll mention the dates for the next games after the interview.

>>361962696
~6 days from now

>>361962740
>Had BW been left alone, it would have still been broadcasting on OSL

I'm not sure, the savior scandal really did a number on its reputation

>>361962656
but that's exactly what were observing right now with afreeca tv propping up this dead, shit game you imbecilic broodcrump

>>361962781
It did it's work, it killed the MSL.

OSL viewership was fine though, it would have kept going for longer than SC2 OSL did. BW OSL viewership in 2011/2012>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SC2 OSL Viewership

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Finally some Terrans.

Terrans = best race. Best flexibility. Best aestetics.

>>361962570
This. Especially the Terrans. They're supposed to have a gritty, rusty Alienesqe look to all their units and structures. They look far too clean and shiny in SC2

>>361962896
Here's hoping THE DONG makes it to top 4.

>>361962740
bw is a match fixing scheme you're watching wwf wrestling but you're too much of a broodcrump to see it

>>361962889
>OSL viewership was fine though
yes but they had an increasing amount of trouble finding sponsors, and one team after the other dropped out. kespa actually had to fund a team

Jaedong vs Flash or Bisu vs Flash

>>361963001
esports was a mistake ;~;7

>>361962943
I don't think he can beat bisu or flash, and he lost to best a couple times already. Maybe if he faces stork?

I predict D1 for Stork

Is Tasteless going demented? Or is the pot going to his head? I've noticed him making a lot of error for names and units lately.

>>361963168
Artosis has stayed involved in SC casting and I think Tasteless stopped quite a bit.

I can't understand Korean casters, but they have a serious shouty tone. Serious casting for a serious game.

English casting is a bit more laid back with more joking and laughing.

Wait, why did they put hero back in the box?

>No zergs left
Kill me.

RIP Sea

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Awesome I had no idea this was on

>>361963345
OH nevermind. Theres a hero still around

>>361963345
jaedong and hero retard

>>361963389

You missed it. They're selecting for ROund of 8 now. You can watch the replay on Youtube in a minute. Just search for Afreecatv Starleague.

Flash will have to go through jaedong, stork, and bisu

Also hero vs bisu will be an awesome set.

i wanna give a short look for people who may not know what happened about why sc2 failed so hard right now that broodwar is literally taking over

i can only explain in a general sense, theres a lot of things that kinda contribute to the game being like this but the game being like this is why its ultimately not as interesting
and ill skip talking about foreigners getting wiped out within a year making tons of people swap to lol and dota because theyd rather root for players they relate to than the best players but that was a huge blow to viewership

its supposed to be a strategy game with a high skill cap
this means that a player can influence the game a lot through smart strategy and high level execution

while sc2 does have this it is actually incredibly limited by design, you are pigeon holed into a certain way of playing that leaves little ways to move around

for the longest time sc2 games came down to either one version of quick attack winning or losing or both playing sitting near idle while amassing a huge army that collided once and determined a winner

with the third and last expansion coming up the community who cares knew it was the last moment to change the game and make it better. the second expansion just changed the meta and introduced some new units, it didnt make any real long lasting changes.

the community did a ton of work in figuring out the fundamental issues that lead to sc2 being so pigeon holed. literally everyone was involved in talking about or coming up with things to think about
pros and retired pros got involved and there were many discussions on the forums and talkshows

there was a good plan in place to make a few big changes to the fundamentals of the game which when taking that route would require some tweaking after release but it meant that we would go into a new route, one that would eventually lead to a much better game

x

>>361963437
Fuck, really

bisu
hero
flash
stork

Bisu > Sea
Hero > Best
Guemchi > Flash
Jaedong > Stork
Hero > Bisu
Jaedong > Guemchi
Jaedong > Hero

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Matches.

Flash Hero finals my guess

>>361963572
Jaedong has a chance to make it to top 4. Thanks Santa.

>flipper nerd attacks

Are the upcoming matches still at 5AM EST?

>>361963572
I need either a Bisu vs Flash or Bisu vs Jaedong finals here

>>361963495
without trying it during the beta or responding to any of the points or providing any data or evidence to counter the many maths models, graphs and simulations the community had made blizzard simply said no we know better and forced a very simply and meaningless redesign on us
saying it was better when everyone already knew it wasnt since it was so simple predicting the effect of their change was already known

from there the morale dropped, we would not go into an era of actually trying to revamp the game

the expansion was just another few new units added and with no hope in sight to work on things that matter the most everyone kind of gave up and moved on