Hiro wants us to talk about how to fix /v/. We've heard

Thread IDs are not acceptable.

>>315353095
Enough.

>>315353132
You're not acceptable

>>315353095
If you think he understands 4chan you're wrong.

He ran 2ch, the 300 board website full of duplicate boards so that trips could have their drama without having bump elbows with each other's egos. That's what he thinks is acceptable.

That's what he'll make here if he doesn't learn better.

6 /v/s 4 /a/s 5 /pol/s /bane/ and /bane2/ and a copy of the 200 most popular subreddits

Create /cel/ and feed ecelebs into it.

>>315353132
You're a retard

bring back dubs
ban undertale posters
ban SJW/gg threads

greasy widescreen eyed robot

>>315353095

Just fucking sticky this bullshit if Hiro so inclined on encouraging discussion on it.

delete the literature board.

fuck /lit/

>>315353095
More /v/'s is historically an awful idea.

>>315348065
See that shit? Stop that shit right now. Can't even have a decent Nier thread anymore. This place needs to get nuked /pol/ style.

>>315353095
disband /vr/ and /vp/
create a Nintendo board, this board would also count classic games that were on Nintendo consoles like Megaman and Banjo. but regular /v/ its still okay to talk about them

>>315353095
Splitting the boards just drives the quality of /v/ down further, this place is a disaster area after vg and vr.

Can we just sticky this or something? This is the fourth or fifth iteration of this thread tonight, obviously its a hot topic and the fact that previous posts are going to be lost in the old threads and the same people from said threads are just going to keep posting the same statements in the new threads means its going to keep hitting the bump limit.

Here's the game plan:
>add IDs to /v/
>people who hate IDs fuck off to cripplechan because "muh anonymity"

There, I've removed 50% of shitposters.

>>315353414
This. Bring our boys back home. Ban general threads, and bring /vg/ back too.

>>315353412
ban happy mods is not a good idea, what good is the 4chan if you can't have bantz

Bring back dubs.

Thread based IDs. Seriously. It does wonders to stop same fagging and shit posting.

>>315353262
This man for president

>>315353528
>Remove anonymity from 4chan

LOL

>>315353542
That's not bantz.

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http://strawpoll.me/5916074

JUST DO IT HIRO

Why not just a 1 week trial of eastern and western /v/ with actual moderation (only for that 1 week. I don't expect the mods to do their job ALL the time)?

>>315353528
How about instead, you go to a website that has identification and better suits your wants, rather than forcefully changing a place.

>>315353414
There are non-Nintendo retro games that get discussed on /vr/ too. Leaving them on /v/ would be unfair for them since they're pretty good posters. Also /vr/ talks a lot about buying old hardware or emulation, which isn't limited to Nintendo only.

>>315353384
We keep that around for the same reason we keep that cancerous, so bad it makes /v/ look good shithole called /tv/: Because if we got rid of it we might have to interact with these people.

>>315353412
>stop telling me i have a one-gamestation!

Bring back posting about Chris-chan, deep ocean, and sinks.

Make background Babby and have Gee play.

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made swaglord the mod of /v/

>>315353542
A better place, hopefully with less shitters who think Bantz is an acceptable thing to say, ironically or unironically.

stop trying to use /v/ as a publicity garden (specially for indie games)

>>315353586
Fuck you what part of anonymous image board do you not fucking get?

Just ban normalfags and everyone who hate on anime.

Normalfags are the reason why 4chan is garbage.

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>>315353202
>Implying /bane/ wouldn't be the best possible scenario

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>go on /v/
>thread about Undertale appearing on a Christian broadcast show
>almost 400 replies
I hate this fucking board so fucking much.

>>315353542
incessant insults preventing all discussion is not "bantz"

>>315353202
It allows boards to have their own personalities. Everyone would know that /v/-4 is the videogame porn board.

The only thing we need is to fix the CAPTCHA so we can report threads. Threads like this one, which I can't report because the CAPTCHA is broken.

>>315353679
This is a stupid idea. Splitting /v/ is NEVER good.

We are in such a shitty place because we're all split.

People think, for instance, that /vg/ is for video game discussion and /v/ is just a "culture" board which is incredibly stupid.

>>315353528
YES

WE NEED MORE CIRCLEJERKING LIKE /vg/

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MISSING

ADD IDS AND FORCED TRIPCODES AFTER THAT, HELL JUST PUT IN AN ACCOUNT SYSTEM ALREADY!!!! FUCKERS I WANT TO BE POPULAR ON THE 4CHANS!!!!!!!!!!

E-celebrity stuff can fuck off to /tv/ or a new board. That's my only gripe with this board.

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>>315353132
Thread ID is necessary.

Consider that people who are against thread IDs are one of the following two types of people.

1.) People who just want to be deceptive, impersonate another user in the thread, samefag etc. Basically just exploiting anonymity to do something shitty.

2.) People who post an OP or post which is a perfect set up for a 'witty' comeback reply that they write themselves and then post it on r/4chan for le ebin karma. Thread IDs derails this gravy train.

>>315353795
>wordfilter to make people stop acting stupid
>they just keep doing it even though its now moonspeak

>>315353538
bringing back /vg/ is kind of iffy
its a useful board
but generals go dead for days
and things that need generals bad get talked here for days anyways
maybe turn /vg/ just into generals so even /co/ could get cleaned

>>315353679
You copied my post, m8.

>>315353178
>>315353260
learn to chan culture

IDs are synonymous

>>315353842
>I have no idea how IDs work please rape my face

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Can the new /v/ board at least be NSFW?

Why can /co/ have that but not us?

>>315353713
I don't go to /lit/ but I can't believe people on /v/ think t hey're superior to any other board that doesn't have r9k in its title

>>315353795
Why? It's funny. It's a 4chan tradition to laugh at stupid people.

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Decrease moderation on threads that do involve video games (allow Hunger Game threads, stop banning/warning people for SFW pictures of video game characters just because they're anthro, allow both husbando and waifu threads)
Increase moderation on threads that dont involve video games (threads that bait with pictures of porn stars, JAV, flavor of the month anime waifus, threads where the picture is very clearly more interesting than the text and not vidya)

can't fix this board it will always be shit, always has. This is /v/.

Create a fucking /waifu/ board so these fuckers can be in one place to circle jerk/ERP/Image dump and all that obnoxious shit, cause fucking /a/, /c/, /h/, /vg/ etc aren't enough for these faggots and I get tired of them invading a actual discussion threads with their shit

Pretty much everyone who complains about IDs mentions the exact same thing. It's as if they're all one person. If only there was a way to find out...

>splitting western and jap games

That's fucking retarded.
Instead make a /pc/ board so the shitposting dies and we can have real discussions.

>>315353891
Im torn on this, because I like how I can get into a total shitstorm of an argument with one person while simultaneously having a calm discussion with others in the same thread.

Only normalfags want ID's. They can't handle some bantz so they want to transform this place into reddit.

>>315353528
You should go to reddit.

>>315353132
Thread IDs are the only solution.

>>315353917
It's a circlejerk board, is what it is.

>>315353945
I would like a redboard /v/. Mainly because h game threads though.

>>315354049
/c/ is basically for that

I don't think IDs are the way to go here guys, nor do I think we need to split up /v/. And of course, re-allowing dubs will just reopen another type of shitposting. All /v/ needs is hardcore moderation - the people posting "what did he mean by this," undercover porn threads, etc. just need to be fucking put down.

>>315353891
>Consider that people who are against thread IDs are one of the following two types of people.

Consider that you ridiculously simplify things to just make yourself look better.

I post on 4chan to be anonymous. I don't post to have an identity- of any sort. Fuck off if you want to force that upon people.

Nothing because /v/ is inherently a godawful place. The board doesn't need fixing, just the faggots who browse it.

/v/
/vnsfw/
SOLVED

Establish /celeb/ as a board.

Seriously, this one move would instantly help both /v/ and /tv/.

>>315353891
That's part of the draw back with this whole anonymous shtick, but I rather have to deal with that and keep it than using fucking IDs, if I wanted ids I would've joined Something Awful.

Thread IDs.
Definitely do NOT split /v/ again.
Enforce duplicate thread closing. (We don't need 3 halo 5 threads and 2 undertale threads, etc.)

There, /v/ is fine.

>>315353095
The notion of splitting /v/ hasn't fucking worked. It's the only board that's /b/-tier in volume (probably over /b/ some days), but unlike /b/ actually has a pretty constrained array of topics.

The rules are fine, the number of boards is fine. We just need more, and better, mods.

>>315353985
>just because they're anthro

Humanity may be changing its mind about the homosexual menace to society, but filthy fucking furries will NEVER be acceptable

>>315353974
I just see it as an extension of the pro/anti Undertale shitposting and the need to make everything into a big drama.

>>315353095
split board between pc and console.

there'll be less traffic on both and shitposting will occur only by console warfags

Also bring back dubs and kick out SJW and ggers.

>>315353095
>people unironically say splitting the board even further is a good idea
just fucking stop

>>315354094
I would prefer to avoid general shitstorms because they are never worth it.

Well shit sons if you care so much about being anonymous why don't you ask to get rid of captcha and mod visible ip's?

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>>315353795
Easy fix.

How about a robot on /v/? That would prevent 10 copies of the same thread popping up

>>315353891
There is no good reason to have an issue with ID's, they're thread unique. People are just worried they're going to be called out for being fucking idiots.

>>315353838
No. I want /vg/ to stay fucking separate. I don't want the avatarfagging funposting bullshit /dg2/ /llg/ /feg/ /codg/ "FIRST FOR A RARE PEPE" bullshit to clog the front page of /v/ for all eternity. /v/ maybe a drama and flame filled wasteland, but /vg/ is so much worse.

Stop splitting everything.

Simply kill the unwanted threads and ban their creators.

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Move towards self-moderation. Mods should just do nothing unless the thread really doesn't involve video games at all. False flaggers are annoying, and they do it to get attention from the mods hoping to delete threads.

re-integrate /vr/ and /v/

BAN ALL E-CELEB THREADS (FUCK YOU TBFP CUNTS)

Boom, /v/ quality suddenly rises exponentially.

>>315353985
>allow Hunger Game threads
These don't involve video games.

They do involve characters, but it's not even about discussing the characters.

I don't even fucking understand what they are supposed to be about. RNG funny match-ups I guess, which is fucking stupid. It should go on /b/.

>>315354153

too many letters

/av/ is fine

>>315353095
no more fucking undertale threads for the love of god its like 5 years old

You literally can go to any other website around if you want identification.

Fuck off with it here.

>>315353952
I actually like /lit/, but come on, /tv/ is about as low as you can get. People joke about there being one good thread per four meme/shitposting/troll threads over here, but on /tv/ most days its literally one good thread per ten BANE?/pedophiles/"What did he mean by this?"/different BANE? thread/

>>315353627
You'd be anonymous on 4chan, you would NOT be anonymous in the thread. That's pretty fucking fair to me, and SEVERELY limits shitposting since someone can be called out.

>>315354123
Just go to >>>/h/, we have vidya discussions here.

>>315354247
Something Awfuls account system is not even close to thread IDs.

>>315354176
>thread ID's

Fuck it. Why don't we just set up a fucking account system since apparently that's what everyone wants. You can even put in likes too.

>>315353132
It did improved /pol/

How about a celebrity board? That can act as containment for both /v/'s and /tv/'s worst shitposting.

>>315353917
>even /co/ could get cleaned
I was preaching for years that /co/ should have been split into Animation and Capeshit. It wasn't until well after everyone migrated that the idea became popular.

>>315354256
They will die here.

>>315354261
>Mods should just do nothing unless the thread really doesn't involve video games at all
That'll leave them a lot of threads still you realize?

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>>315353095
Reinforce the rules dammit. Jesus Christ, Mods are fucking shit. Delete and permaban all e-celeb/twitter shit. Especially consolewar garbage.

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>>315353095

/v/ should only be about social justice and pure shitposting. who even likes video games anyway?

>>315354261
What you're suggesting is akin to letting toddlers drive.

>>315354272
>These don't involve video games.
>They do involve characters,

So then they DO involve video games. Their characters.
Also, they're allowed on /co/. Why can /co/ have them and not /v/? What's that about?

>>315353095
Split the board for a week and see what happens.

>>315353170
>PLEASE STOP GIVING SUGGESTIONS TO IMPROVE /v/
No, fuck off.

>>315354094
but anytime you say anything on 4chin it has to be the most well thought out thing eva xDD otherwise it's just a shitpost!

What you just said is the entire reason ID's are stupid. I am not going to talk like this the entire duration of this thread besides this post, but people will read it, call me a retard, and cannot judge me for anything else I say in this thread because of this post which is a fallacy humans commit not matter what. Some faggots even attempt it now with the >>(you) shit

Just want to say, in the case that Hiro is among us, thank you for making /his/.

>>315353891
back to reddit where you can get all the upboats you want friendo

>>315354247
Being an anonymous idiot on 4chan is a release most other web sites can't offer.

>>315354325
That one was for
>>315354174

>>315353891

1) So what? If you're operating under the assumption there are consistent users vising and posting in a thread, you're retarded. Every post stands on it's own. Got to Reddit if you want IDs.

2) So what? Thread IDs are easily circumvented. That's not going to stop any of the shit you described.

I'm genuinely impressed you're able to use a computer well enough to post this. Go use some other fucking website if you don't want Anonymity.

Can you please kill the man on /o/ who makes >4 cylinder engine
threads EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY?

>>315353793
But there already is a /bane/. Even watched the entire movie in one thread via sound webms.

>>315354273
Charles Dickens there sounds like he's triggered by the word "girlfriend" more than anything.

>>315354393
This. I love it.

>>315354247
People are worried that users like you want to strip away one of the founding components of this site because you're afraid of having to take each post by its individual value.

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Make a red /v/ for shitposting, porn, ecelebs, vidya "culture", etc
Keep /v/ for strictly Vidya discussion

>>315354090
it's called /g/.

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>>315354375
/v/ should be about lolis instead of games

>>315354123
There are two H-game threads on /vg/ that are constantly up.

Probably the only two decent threads on that board.

Most of /v/ comes down to lack of self-moderation

>>315354390
It would help a lot if people behaved themselves in general.

>>315354335
Since when should we follow /pol/'s example on anything? They're like 10% the reason why this place is so shitty.

>>315354289
>/av/

isn't that /t/?

>>315353674
please no oh god no

>>315353891
>People who just want to be deceptive, impersonate another user in the thread

lel, can't handle the banter kiddo? I think /vg/ or /reddit/ are more your style.

>>315354367
So much this. Mods should do their fucking job.

>>315354421
The only reason to be against IDs is because you want to samefag.

>>315354149
>thread ID will somehow make you not anonymous

retard

>>315354349
a lot of comic books have cartoons and i don't think enough people really talk about comics to justify its own board
/co/ still needs some cleansing itself though. i don't have the same fun there as i did 5 years ago

>>315354335
I post on /pol/ regularly. It did not.

>>315354393
It's surprisingly decent. No shitposting, but still allows some mild funposting.

>let's fix /v/
>creates off topic thread on /v/
You are the fucking problem, you stupid faggot.

>>315353945
>>315354123
kill yourselves

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>western games

>>315354331
They all have only been here for 2 years after coming for reddit, it can't be helped. Lurking doesn't exist in a board like /v/ anymore and they think their word is law and because they outnumber people who actually were here they carry more weight because mods don't give a shit anymore.

Which is why I want a boardsplit.

>>315354382
You can't stop people from engaging with shitposters. This gets threads deleted. I say fuck it, don't give shitposters want they want. Let them shitpost with no results.

>>315353095
My vote is for new mods or a bot trained to recognize reposts, identical topics all over the front page, and Pokemon threads

much more heavy handed moderation. this place went to shit when the /b/tards migrated long ago and got away with posting non video game related things. Its just steadily gotten worse and worse as the population increased. Ban for all notvideogames. This includes your stupid culture wars. This includes your stupid ecelebs. Thats not video games. video games are video games.

>>315354390
Right but if your other posts were all just retarded shit being flung around, we'd be able to rightly point out that you are the moron in the thread, and your attempt to obfuscate yourself wouldn't work.

>>315354521
No my friend, you are the retard.

This has been gone over for the past two threads. If you have an identification, you are not anonymous. It's simple, but you just don't seem to comprehend this.

Thread ID's will devolve the board into another /vg/ where its just tripfaggots sucking each other off.

>>315354537
The moderator of 4chan literally told us to when we tried to do it in the designated board.

>>315353674
moderation being "more severe" could be interpreted in a lot of ways, not all of which would be beneficial, but if it kills the frogposters then I'm all for it.

>>315354090
How would that stop Sony vs Nintendo threads? PC shitposting pales by comparison.

>>315354537
Jap admin said to discuss it on /v/, so here we are

>>315354261
>Move towards self-moderation. Mods should just do nothing

We already had this, it was called /v/ from 2008 to 2011

>>315353674
we dont even have console wars, it is just PC shitposting nonstop making it impossible to discuss games like bloodborne

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>>315354458
I think every boards should allow loli desu.

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Holy fuck, the weebs are organizing.

>>315354537
This.

The only "problem" with /v/ is people talking about NOT VIDYA

>>315353891
See >>315354094

Even a temporary identity still accumulates baggage.

I don't always say the smartest shit, or maybe some anon picks a fight with me, and it's nice to be able to leave that behind and have calm discussions later in the thread.

And let's be honest. Thread ID is about as debilitating as bans. The dedicated shit posters would simply reset their routers/use phones. Bans still are obnoxious to us VPN users though.

>>315354261
Self moderation is in no way compatible with any anonymous imageboard, and is truly an awful idea.

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>>315354191
I don't want a /v/ where pictures of video games are banned under some incredibly vague "no furry" rule. Just rewrite it so its okay if its relevant to the topic and not porn.
You know, like EVERY OTHER POST.

>>315354627
I don't think you now what anonymous means. Being labeles Idk3iK for one thread doesn't not make you anonymous.

>tfw he still can't understand that e celeb threads are the problem

Come the fuck on hiro, it's an easy fix.

>>315354628
Thread IDs are not usernames retard

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>>315353674
This.

>>315354593
Define "video game".

>>315353891
Is that image supposed to show how much of an idiot you are?

>>315354628
Thread ids are thread unique fucktard

>>315354393
I actually love him for making /aco/, really took out some of the cancer plaguing the other NSFW boards.
Now if only /fur/ was created...

>>315354674
And then there's the furryfaggot posting his worthless opinion.

>>315354649
Good times.

>>315354706
He probably doesn't even know what the fuck does e-celebs even mean.

>>315354725
Remove anime too

>>315354247
> called out

THERE IT IS!

You want to "call people out" who say things you don't like. That's why you want IDs. You want to be able to pin down and ridicule the posters you don't like. You want accountability in a place based around the lack of accountability.

Get the fuck back to Reddit.

THE VIDYA AMENDMENT OF 2015

Instead of adding thread IDs, only OPs have IDs. OP IDs follow OPs through their entire /v/ life. Meaning that if an OP makes one topic and ten minutes later that same OP makes another topic, those OPs will have the same IDs and this will allow you to find out who is the OP of the same two or more threads.

>>315354671
Works pretty well for /a/.

>>315353095
They should honestly make a Nintendo and PC corral so that normal people can talk about video games.

Just pull a /fur/ and permaban everyone on /v/. Start the board fresh.

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>>315353891
>>315353891
One of the major consequences of IDs is that they don't actually prevent samefagging

If anything, it just gives people with dynamic IPs or mobile devices (also see: Ban Evaders) a greater advantage over other posters by starting threads, and then changing IDs so that no one calls them out on samefagging their own threads.

It's an extremely effective technique.
IDs don't provide anything other than a false sense of security. The people who are truly shitting up the board will be able to continue what they're doing, but won't be called out on it.

There are days when I want Gestapo tier moderation. When somebody posts something so stupid that you can't tell whether its bait or just extreme idiocy, I dont think anyone would mind if it was deleted. Except for the mouthbreathing child who posted it.

>>315353095
BAN WAIFUPOSTING
board get 20000% insta better.
That's the reason why people hate weeabos.

>>315354630
>moderator
family, please.

>>315354705
But it doesn't make you anonymous in that thread.

>>315354705
On boards with IDs, I can highlight any post made by that post in that thread with a single click. They are not anonymous. They have an identity.

This site is meant for people to be anonymous on. You don't strip that away. It's ridiculous.

>>315354740
Captcha doesn't stop you from spamming. It makes spamming harder. Same for thread id.

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>>315353674
Out of everyone in this board I can agree with. It's this.

>>315353781
This.

>>315354801
Why would Japanese moot remove anime?

>>315354705
Yes it does, it doesn't make you anonymous in that fucking thread.

Its so easy
/gv/ good vidya.
/sv/ shit vidya.

>>315354427
This
Also please brutally assassinate the Sakura fish one on /a/, that's also EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY.

>>315354806
People will just use their smartphone to create more than one thread

>>315353528
...Mark's /v/ uses IDs you fucking retard.

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>>315354801

stricter moderation, remove the remnants of this "meme board culture" shit

>>315354859
So you want to be able to shitpost and samefag without other people knowing pretty much and then you go and wonder why /v/ is shit

>>315354532
I post in /pol/ regularly as well, it did indeed improve the board. Now I can shitpost to Pajeet not shitting in toilets.

>>315354403
Whats the release though? Making stupid posts to try and piss people off? Fuck off with that shit, if that's how you get your kicks you're a borderline sociopath.

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/v/ is an imageboard where there are no exact reposts.

1. If you attempt to post something unoriginal, it is not posted, and you are muted temporarily.
2. The time with which you are muted for doubles with each transgression.
3. Each mute time is 2^n in seconds where n is the number of times you have transgressed. So, your mute time doubles each time you fuck up.
4. Backlinks, eg>>1, are not viewed by the robot. So "lolwut" and ">>2lolwut" are the same post, in the eyes of the robot.
5. Gibberish at the end of a post to force originality may result in mod intervention (no BLOX posts please).
6. Images areNOTincluded in the filter, only text.
7. Your mute count slowly decreases over time.
8. You cannot post a picture without text.
9. Unicode is blocked. Sorry, too many exploits (Cyrillic letters, etc).
10. Posts require a certain minimum amount of original content in order to be posted.
11. Post sane, real content, well thought out replies, and mutes are unlikely.
12. The original algorithm was designed by XKCD:
http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/01/14/robot9000-and-xkcd-signal-attacking-noise-in-chat/

>>315354383
>Their characters
Yes but the characters aren't being discussed.

If anything it's an advertisement for the RNG website that pairs up shit.
It has NOTHING to do with video games.
It's entirely about seeing what funny results come from the RNG match-up process. That isn't video games man.

>>315354891
Well maybe if you started to like it he wouldn't post it anymore

You Jap fuck, you banned my entire fucking city block! I know the irony of someone in an Allied country asking a Japanese person to refrain from using the nuclear option, but this shit is fucking ridiculous!

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Tell me a good reason why I shouldn't have 2 opinions that contradict each other in one thread

>>315354823
It seems that there really are only 2 types of moderation. Better to have nazi-tier. At least it allows us to talk about videogames.
>>315354884
perfect.

>>315354891
That's because not everyone likes it yet.

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>>315354758
Fuck /fur/.
Lighten up on GR3 instead.

>>315354825
Isn't banned already?

>>315353842
>I have no idea what I'm talking about!

>>315354658
You are part of the problem.

Hiro, Ban any e-celeb threads. Basically anything that talks about Youtubers/Twitch streamers/other useless gossipy BS.

>>315354725
You realize that might entail bans for posting anime.

That means no more Umermaro or whatever that moeshit is, that I keep seeing.

Actually that's not a bad idea. Start banning anime images.

>>315354715
>>315354745
I understand that but I've seen them crosslink their posts between threads so that their other autistic followers can talk to them between threads.

>banning e-celeb threads

If he does this he will be a god.

>>315354804
Exactly. 500 posts til autosage is quite a bit except for explosive drama like this. The temporary id could last for quite a bit longer. I don't wanna be hounded by funposters. I'd go to reddit for that.

>>315354884

That a stupid idea

I'll admit it would be funny to watch /v/ sorting out games between the boards but still a retarded idea.

We just need better mods
The one that actually deleted shit posting for once.
And let me post my fucking gamer fuel threads
Mod keep deleted because it's not vidya but it's muh vidya culture
Either let me post it on /v/ or make video game culture board

>>315354965
So what? It's just harmless fun. And you ignored that /co/ has them all the time. And they dont care. Nobody complains about it. And they have FUN.

>>315353528

You can actually do a URL hack to enable IDs on /v/ right now.

If you replace everything with "reddit.com" it gets you the results you want.

>>315353262
gg has been banned for a year.

>>315354537
This, but Hiro actually encouraged it, which is probably why these aren't being deleted...

Growing pains.

>>315354806
You are dumb. This idea is dumb.

>>315353095
>fix /v/

there is nothing wrong with /v/ fuck off back to reddit

>>315355000
this, bring out the crackdown, the reign of terror is long overdue

I HAVE AN IDEA

The best gamers on /v/ all come up with an idea on how to run /v/ and then we will compete in a video game tournament to decide which idea gets implemented.

>>315353674
>asking two different questions in a single Yes/No poll

Disgusting.

>>315354849
>>315354859
>>315354883
So what, those posts will never be tied to any identity beyond that thread. thread ID's will do nothing but call out samefags and shitposters. What drawback is there to ID's beyond

>muh anonymity

I want a /jv/ and /wv/ just for the banter it will cause.

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>>315355028
this desu senpaitachi baka

>>315354954
Oh I love how you just put words in my mouth. That's charming.

Every post should be accounted for on its individual merit. You add identification, and that goes away.

There are /countless/ places with forced accounts and usernames. This is not meant to be one of them.

>>315354437
You'd still be anonymous though, its not like you'd have a fucking account or be forced to use trips. It'd simply illuminate the posters who pull the "I'm just pretending to be retarded" shit in threads and allow them to be singled out and ridiculed like they deserve. If you're so worried about this, I think you might be one of them.

>>315354859
You are still overall anonymous.

These arguments are as lame as the queers crying about free speech.

>>315355027
This to be honest

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>>315354149
>>315354174
>>315354394
>>315354513

>le go back to reddit/other website

It's funny that this is always the reply.

I love this board. I want it to stand on it's own feet as a place where people can have a decent discussion about vidya without the thread instantly getting pushed off the front page by bullshit.


There are plenty of redditors and neofaggots here who go to those sites for their 'serious' discussion, then come here to shitpost, samefag, and basically use /v/ as their toilet when they want to blow off some steam and say shit that will get them banned elsewhere.

You're the kind of people who complain about this place being overrun with redditors, but you're basically enabling that to happen. You probably make posts about how the board is going downhill, while opposing anything that could actually clean this place up a bit.

If you want this board to just be video game themed /b/, then don't be surprised when reddit retards show up and actually treat it as such.

>>315354874
>if you're japanese you automatically like anime!

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>>315354545
>>315354331
You guys are strawmanning so hard it's stupid.

1) I've been here since '07.
2) /b/ has thread id's, and there's still no account system on 4chan.
3) Let's talk theory here. Most people wouldn't shitpost as much if they had a thread ID, since everyone could point out that a specific person was being a shitposter and ignore their posts.

Saying thread id's are like "le Reddit" is absolutely silly. People don't want to be held accountable for shit-posting, but that's the whole reason we're talking about changing /v/, to get rid of shitposting.

Please debate this.

>>315354860
>Captcha doesn't stop you from spamming
actually it does. Automated spamming doesn't happen under the captcha system. Thread id doesn't prevent samefagging, it just gives samefags the benifit of having multiple IDs.

THERE'S LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH /v/ RIGHT NOW

Outside of e-celeb cancer which usually gets banned right away, /v/ is better than ever.

>great discussion
>great banter
>great memes
>feels better than ever

Thead IDs and Nazi moderation will turn this place into r/gaming or some bullshit

>>315355127
An ID is literally fucking identical to a username. If you want that shit, go back to Reddit and farm upvotes.

>>315355082
>So what? It's just harmless fun
Too much of it clogs up the board.

I do agree though, it's fun. Keep it on /b/, the board for random things. They should have a place on 4chan, that's the place. There isn't an argument that makes sense to encourage it on /v/ as opposed to /b/.

>/co/ has them all the time. And they dont care. Nobody complains about it. And they have FUN.
Well, it doesn't make any more sense there, they should go to /b/ too, I don't care as much because I don't go on /co/ or care about it being on topic.

>>315355021
oh here we go, got one already

gonna lecture me for the 1000th time how bloodborne should be on PC and how much the framerate would benefit it?

>>315353528
I don't even mind IDs. How many posters will stick to the same thread for long enough that it matters?

>>315353095
I don't think /v/ needs another major split.

/sjw/ shit should not be on my board.

e-celebrities and youtube personalities feel like they shit up my board frequently. This might fall under a spam/advertising rule, but idk.
The problem with these are that many of them actually play games and host gaming content, so they have just enough relevance to not be instantly deleted.

The moderation is alright, though slow at times. Our mods are surprisingly good at nuking threads that are only tangentially related to vidya most of the time

>>315353262
Dubs contribute a lot of spam.
SJW threads do not belong, though gg threads do.

>>315353679
This is dumb. East/west is a frequent topic, not deserving of a full split.

Give us an option to report shills
Make shilling an bannable offense

>>315355094
E-celeb threads. Literally the only problem though.

>>315355158
Why do people call shitposting "banter" now?

>>315355117
It's basically one in the same

>>315355201
Pretty sure nips does like it tho.

>>315355127
What drawbacks does taking anonymity out of an anonymous website lead to?

Every post is meant to be taken by its individual merit. Period. You add IDs, and this is taken away.

>>315354440
and call it /svs/

>>315354825
/v/ is pretty much the only place retarded enough to advocate banning people for liking video game characters.

Why are e-celebs okay but liking video game characters isn't?

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>>315355080
How about a lame ass tub of whale shit culture board?

>>315355094
nah /v/ is fucking shit its just that all these ideas how to fix it are fucking terrible

>>315355201
Well, Hiro-sama does.

>>315354994
Discussion:

>I like this game so much for this and that reason
>I disagree for these reasons

Consolewars

>LOL Nintendo is for children 3DS is dead
>I disagree for these reasons
>LOL cry moar ninten kiddie

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Self-moderation

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The solution is simple

also give id's flags like sp

>>315354502
Nobody comes on this site to moderate their fucking speech and thoughts you fucking cock guzzling nigger.

>>315355236
>An ID is literally fucking identical to a username.

If you honestly believe this, you are literally retarded.

>>315355127
That apparently easy enough to get around and will make it seem like multiple people are engaging in conversation?

>>315355247
1 thread does not clog up a board. 1 thread per subject will still be enforced.

>>315355080
With better moderation, you couldn't have your "gamer fuel" threads.

Just make a "Vidya random" and /b/ counterparts of the most popular boards.

>>315355251
It exists you fucking moron

e-celeb threads are cancer as fuck, but where else would they be talked about? a board dedicated to that shit sounds even worse

i like the e celeb threads...

>make /celeb/ a new containment board
>bring back autoban words and phrases (nintoddlers, "what did he mean by this", that kind of stuff)
>more/better mods
>seriously, bring back autoban

I also wonder if /v/ would benefit from its own version of /jp/. I don't know exactly what that board is like in practice, but giving all the "muh video game culture" types a place to shitpost their LOL threads and eceleb shit on would be a decent start.

>>315354859
There is no constitution for 4chan, if a feature gets abused, measures are taken to bring things back under control. See, captcha. See, sage becoming invisible. See IDs being implemented on other boards already. See dubs not being CENSORED on /v/.

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>>315355219
Are we browsing the same board?

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>>315355316
Only GOD can solve this.

>>315355259
There's a difference between shitposting and funposting.

>>315355042

This is all I want as well.

You can't have video game discussion without system shit flinging. It's inevitable and been around as long as they've existed. Go look at any other forum from the past 15 years.

But we can get rid of eceleb/youtube shit.

>>315355359
got removed

>>315354608
Okay, and that's my own fault which can easily be done without ID systems, so how the fuck is an ID system a good thing?

>>315355318
I'm all for id's but having flags is stupid

>>315353945
/aco/ is western /h/, not necessarily an extension of /co/.

>>315355259
It's Britfags

deus desu kawaii Tbh fAm and shit like that is witty discussion for them

>>315355180
>It'd simply illuminate the posters who pull the "I'm just pretending to be retarded" shit in threads and allow them to be singled out and ridiculed like they deserve

And it all comes out. You want IDs because you want accountability on a website that prides itself on not having it.

It should not matter what a person said two hours ago on a completely different tangent, if what they are saying right now is relevant and adding to the conversation.

>>315353674
This is as worthless as asking "SHOULD SHITPOSTING BE AGAINST THE RULES?"

>>315355339
>1 thread
Yes but your logic means it gets out of hand.

>people posting other "harmless fun but offtopic stuff"
This adds up.

Just go to /b/.

You should be allowed Hunger Games threads. Not on /v/ though because video games aren't the subject, same with /co/ but again that's not my concern.

>>315355359
Too bad shills threads aren't being deleted

Ban waifu threads and make sure /a/ stays on /a/

>>315355127
That doesn't matter. Yeah sure there's a bunch of samefags and shitposters, but that's the downside you face with anonymity. Big fucking deal.

It's not even hard to call out samefags without ID's.

>>315355127
thread ID's will make it easier for samefags and shitposters with multiple IPs as has been explained countless times already. You can't call out someone who's samefagging if they're abusing two IDs

>muh

the fact that you even posted that just proves that nothing you say should be taken seriously

You all don't understand. /v/ is beyond saving. Video games in general are mostly enjoyed by kids/teenagers, autistic manchildren or SJWs. Because of this, /v/ ends up being a melting pot for all three of these types of people, which leads to endless shitflinging and barely any actual discussion. As well as this, video games are pretty accessible/popular as a hobby, so the board receives a lot of traffic. Combine these two together and you end up with a board where only shitposting threads can thrive. Actual discussion threads get pushed off the catalog very quickly.

The only way to "fix" /v/ is by salvaging certain parts of the /v/ community that want to have proper discussion and give them their own board. But even when you do that, the other boards end up being slow. Even these boards don't actually fix /v/ since the retards on /v/ say "hurr I'm not going to use a containment board" and continue to shitpost here when the thread could have succeeded on a more relevant board.

Perhaps expanding /vp/ into /vnin/ will be an improvement (it will also remove some of the console wars on /v/) but ultimately the board is doomed forever.

>>315355395
FUNPOSTING IS STILL SHITPOSTING

>>315354545
I'd like to see ID's get added and I've been around for a long ass time now. The shit posting just keeps getting worse, if ID's will help cut some of that down I'm all for it. Its fucking ridiculous how /v/ has just become /b/

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Oh hey look the western normalfags getting mad at anime again.

Anime will never be ban from /v/ so keep crying.

>>315355190
Yes how fucking dare I try to uphold the major point that makes people comeback to this shit hole. Fuck off, you Americans might like trading your rights for security, but I don't.

>>315355327
If their thoughts are borderline retarded then they really aughta.

>>315355236
>remembering even a single 8 digit ID from a thread
>remembering more than one 8 digit ID from a thread
>keeping track of memorized IDs from post to post
>thinking this is something anyone but an absolute autist could or would do

>>315355127

Samefags and shitposters aren't a real problem and giving them an ID won't stop them. I'm just fucking mindboggled that you think otherwise.

Imagine a tripfag. They run around shitposting in a thread and tripfagging it up. It derails the whole thing. THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN EVERY FUCKING THREAD.

>>315355384
And you act like we all find these changes good. I don't support IDs on any board, and hence why I am arguing heavily against them being pushed here.

>>315355416
It's still a rule violation, retard. They just rolled two things into one

>>315355315
/v/ is way too big and dumb for self-moderation. This board is doomed no matter what you do.

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>>315355219
This place is shit & you're an intellectually challenged baby boy zilch. You're a waste of life. You fucking pig.

>>315355368
fuck off shill

flags, every board should have flags

>>315355441
I don't need to listen some slippery slope "fun will just lead to more fun!" fallacy crap.

>>315355259
Shitposting is someone spamming dumb shit like "hurr literal meme game" or posting porn

Banter is funposting.

>>315355127
>They will never be tied to an identity beyond

Stopped reading right there. Your logic makes no sense. I can say forums are anonymous because you will never be tied to a person outside the forum. It doesn't work that way. You either are anon or you aren't.

>>315355207
>/b/ has ID threads

So does pol and those are two of the worst threads on 4chan. Hilarious how that works.

>>315355316
This please or the meet n fuck ones.

>>315355473
No, that's ironic-shitposting, anon.

>>315355034
Show evidence. If people were that desperate, they'd use a trip.

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>>315355496
>not being a normalfag
baka family

>>315355417
How can that easily be done without an ID system?

>>315355462
that's still a good thing, calling out samefagging means derailing the thread and giving them attention even further.

I say we give Thread IDs a shot, and if they don't give the expected results they get the boot. Simple as that.

Is hiroyuki watching this thread?

>>315355219

obvious false flag post by a pro-ID faggot

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>>315355531
If anything its the other way around, it's too big for actual moderation.
This leads to extreme consistencies in moderation, where a shitty waifu thread will be allowed one day and then just get deleted the next.

>>315355549
You're just being retarded now.

My point is that if they have to allow your "just for fun" thread, then they have to do it with other off-topic but just for fun threads.

THEN WE ARRIVE AT A PLACE WHERE IT'S CLOGGING.

This isn't slippery slope, it's a direct consequence of what you're suggesting.

How about this.

Argue why this shouldn't be on /b/.

>>315353412
You need to learn to handle the bantz, and also stop doing Nier automata threads with pics from the game. Just make Drakengard threads and discuss everything there.

>>315355452
>Implying it's /a/ that shitpost not just some underage who saves anime images and starts shit.

>>315354261
if you want self-moderation back, then derail tools need to be reinstated like dubs or "roll" images

>>315355538
For what purpose?

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>>315355082
Lame retards regurgitating the same lame bullshit over & over again isn't fun for anyone that isn't a braindead faggot to have to sift through.

>>315355496
>>315355581
keep samefagging bitch nigga

>>315355551
>>315355572
IT'S
STILL
SHITPOSTING

Remove Anime

Thread ID's, flags

Remove anything not directly related to vidya aka gamer fuel shit, e-celeb shit, 4 am shit

>>315354537
>off topic
Well believe it or not I like off-topic thread on /v/
I like be able to talked about what ever eat drink or what tv show they watch while playing games.
And all these threads aren't allowed on /v/ because it's not vidya

So either allowed them or make >>315354440

And if you are only allowed to talk about video games. Might as well deleted /v/ and only keep /vg/

/v/ is fine.

Hiro needs to ban generals on /tv/ and /sp/.
I'd love to see all dr who and GoT general posters get permabanned.

/sp/ is fucking dead too, pre-2013 it was GOAT and now its literally nothing but generals and tripfags. No board culture at all.

>>315355496
>>315355581
>>315355683
easiest samefag of my life

>>315355651
>My point is that if they have to allow your "just for fun" thread, then they have to do it with other off-topic but just for fun threads.

I literally just called you out for slippery slope and you just did it again.

>This isn't slippery slope, it's a direct consequence of what you're suggesting.
It's slippery slope if it's based on pure conjecture and not actual reality.

>>315355572
Funposting is what newfags call trolling

>>315355682

So fucking leave.

>>315355207
>Most people wouldn't shitpost as much if they had a thread ID
Just like /b/ and /pol/ right? The best boards in this site.

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Thread IDs for three or so months, see how it went, remove them if /v/ got worse

There's really not much else we could even try. Making new boards wouldn't help because /v/ would still be /v/ (see all the previous new boards), removing /v/ entirely and splitting it into different console boards wouldn't solve anything either because shitposters gonna shitpost regardless. The only new board that perhaps wouldn't be so bad would be /v2/, even if only to mitigate the traffic.

Better moderation would of course be good but that can't simply be willed to happen.

>>315355728
So you're not going to argue why this shouldn't be on /b/?

It's random, that's what it is. Take it to /b/ and enjoy it.

>>315355627
He's on qa
I wonder why people still reply on these threads.

>>315353412
Explain how that is bad but this >>315296785 is ok.

>>315355701

That would make this board even more normie than reddit or tumblr. End yourself. I agree on ecelebs though

>>315355565
>So does pol and those are two of the worst threads on 4chan. Hilarious how that works.

/v/ is considered one of the worst boards on 4chan as well. Give us thread id's, it'll solve problems easy.

Debate again.

>>315355701
Also rename us /r/gaming, and possibly add some sort of voting system.

>>315355452
What exactly is wrong with liking video game characters?

Give us flags. I want to laugh at people from Sweden and Germany

>>315355259
People think ironic shit posting is now fun posting instead of shit posting.

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>>315355701
>flags

I think nationality based shitposting is probably the one thing that could actually make the board worse and would basically be the final nail in the coffin.

>>315354671
/a/ does it.
And now they can post porn.

>>315355626
>calling out samefagging means derailing the thread
So then IDs are fucking pointless since

There is literally no benifit to thread ID, "giving it a shot" makes no sense since this board can't come to a consensus on anything and if they're removed a bunch of people will be crying about it anyway

Put a .357 slug through each of 4chan's server boxes.

/v/ is in a better state than it was years ago.

Honestly /qa/ should just be closed, people complaining about all their personal pet peeves is annoying as fuck

>>315355508
Sure, if it's a one off post, but most of us post hundreds of times a day. Are you telling me "PLmD_69pXpk" doesn't mean anything to you? It's a random string of shit, but if you've been here long or seen the video enough, that you can ID what it is. Same thing with tripfags who change their name, but keep the tripcode. Eventually you remember the tripcode, whether you want to or not.

board exclusively for western games
board exclusively for japanese games
and board exclusively for nintendo games

>>315355538
flags ruined /pol/. Flags almost ruined /his/.

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>>315353095
Please don't fall for the ID meme Hiro.

DON'T DO IT

>>315355821
this

Pc containment board when

>>315355787
It should be on /b/ and /v/.
/v/ when its a HG involving vidya characters.
/b/ when it involves whatever.

This isnt that fucking complicated.

>>315355834

Do it yourself tough guy.

>>315355724
As a matter of fact, shitposting is against the rules. Global Rule 6. Moderation is just very lenient.

Thread IDs is my number one want. You cowards have had it too easy for too damn long.

>>315355791
It isn't

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>>315355496
Cry more degenerate

>>315355549
>>315355728

>slippery slope "fun will just lead to more fun!" fallacy
>doesn't think allowing off-topic threads will result is more off-topic threads

You're an idiot.

>people thinking ID's are gonna make people stop shitposting
>people thinking that this will stop Niggerell

>>315355793
>>315355803
>>315355821
Are you fuckers seriously responding to a guy who suggests flags?

>>315355930
I dunno where they hide the three mac minis nowadays.

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>>315353095
>splitting /v/
>will split more to /sony/, /ms/, /shill/ etc if more retards cry

splitting the board is dumb, go back to living in the cave if you easily triggered by troll and shills

or maybe you can go back to reddit where you will feel safe posting your shit taste while everybody enjoy sucking your dick

>>315355918
It should be on /b/ always, for any characters, because it doesn't involve discussing the characters, just the wacky RNG match-ups, which are LITERALLY random.

>>315355485
Yeah and giving it ID's will move it away from the direction of /b/ because /b/ has no ID's so it's a great board!

>>315355507
If they don't break the rules then no, they not ought to anything. That's the entire point of this site. You can have your shitty stupid borderline retard opinion and as long as you follow the rules you are allowed to say whatever you want. If you want something curated to your specific taste find a forum with ID's that moderates people based off "retardation."

>>315353945
Half of the site is porn. Why the fuck would you need yet another board?

>>315355538
there's no purpose for flags on any board, /int/ included

it just leads to the fucking dumbest shit and derails everything

Make a NSFW vidya board
/a/ has /h/
/co/ has /aco/
Make an /av/
Who's with me?