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>Paper Mario ia dead >Mario & Luigi are dead >Super

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>Paper Mario ia dead
>Mario & Luigi are dead
>Super Smash Bros. is dead
>Chibi-Robo! is dead
>Advance Wars is dead
>Pokémon is dead
>Metroid is dead
>Mario Party is dead
>Star Fox is dead
>Pikmin is dead
>WarioWare is dead
>Yoshi's Island is dead
>Wario Land is dead
>F-Zero is dead
>Fire Emblem is dead

>Retro will never make another Metroid, forever a DK factory
>No more sports IPs like 1080 or Wave Race, just Mii garbage
>No more NST games save for minis garbage

>NoA
>amiibos
>DLC more rampant than ever thought possible
>censorship

>Mario rehashes and spin-offs up the ass + the meager franchise dividing offerings Aonuma shits out in 6 years after 3 delays
>Any of the above dead IPs will come back in some abortion shovelware form that's multiplayer co-op

Welp, it was a fun ride while it lasted bros. See ya on the master race sector.
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when it comes to sports, the only thing i'm mad about is that they replaced all the humans with toads and koopas and shit
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>>315296785
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Is this the current Recovering Nintendrone thread?
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Disagree about pikmen.
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>>315296785
The only one I can disagree about is Pokemon and somewhat Fire Emblem (if you don't count that "crossover"). But yeah, what in the flying fuck happened to Nintendo?

The Wii I thought would be a phase they could recover from, but they shat all over the idea.
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>>315296785
It is like someone went out of their way to be as wrong as possible in one post.

It is actually kind of impressive.
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Wait for spaceworld :^)
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>>315297195
Then prove him wrong, because a lot of the points are quite valid besides the shitposting at the end.
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>>315296785
I'm jaded about both current Mario RPG series and I see nothing wrong with Paper Jam.

Pokemon on the other hand is on hold until their 20th anniversary, so I don't expect bombs to drop until Z or whatever the fuck is coming up.

NOA's high point was the GameCube and GBA days. They lost their cool around 3DS or late DS.

Amiibos print money. A lot of the locked content behind them tends to be optional or cosmetic at best.

NST was just an excuse for Nintendo not to shaft DigiPen grads.

F-Zero is "dead" because Miyamoto's being a pompous ass about innovation and gimmicks needed to keep things fresh.

Yoshi's Woolly World was still better than anything Artoon shat out and let's face it, it was what Yoshi's Story SHOULD HAVE BEEN in the first place.

Smash Bros. is only dead because Sakurai is a hardheaded cockmongler.

Mario Party will come back, it's just that NDCube won't learn a damn thing

Star Fox hasn't been sane since 1997. Zero seems to be picking up pieces of Assault and 2 and rebuilding 64 with its parts. I don't think it's "dead" but how the game fares might determine where or not the series should be in limbo.

Command was still a mistake though.

See ya in E3 when you start recanting your statements.
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>>315296785
>>Mario & Luigi are dead
Paper Jam looks good. What are you talking about?
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>>315297390
Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi is getting a game soon that looks like their best one yet.

Smash Bros 4 is not only good enough that it has made the Project M community look like babies for hanging on to their melee focus, but it gets DLC of characters we would never expect to see in a Smash game.

Chibi Robo literally just had a game, like two weeks ago or something.

Pokemon has been pokemon for I don't know how long. If you are mad about it now, blame your nostalgia, not the games.

Pikmin 3 was amazing, beautiful, cute, as a Pikmin fan I say it was everything I wanted.

Yoshi's Wooly World is Yoshi's Island plus an amazing aesthetic. I expected the game to be childish easy, but it isn't, every level is innovative and interesting, plus there are spikes of difficulty.

Fire Emblem is getting a mainline game, AND a crossover.

The only parts of this post that are accurate:
Advance Wars currently looks dead. That's our fault, it sold even worse than Fire Emblem, it couldn't sustain itself.
Metroid is currently dead, but you know Nintendo can't stay away.
Mario Party killed itself, I don't know wtf they were thinking there.
Wario games, I don't know and really don't care.
F-zero is dead, but no one actually cares. They just bring it up whenever they see Captain Falcon and remember he was part of a game series. You want to play F-zero? Play 200cc Mario Kart 8 and then get over it.

Now as for OP's post itself, without knowing why he counts these series as 'dead', responding was pointless anyway. It was clearly just a bait post, since half the series he listed either have entries on the way, or have had some of their best entries recently.
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>Warcraft is dead
>Starcraft is dead
>Diablo is dead

>No more amazing RTS games
>No more pushing the PC gaming genre forward

>World of Warcraft in-game store
>SC2 custom games
>D3 RMAH
>Heroes of the Storm
>Hearthstone
>E-sports
>"Not enough resources!"

Fuck this ride.
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>>315296785
>Mario & Luigi are dead
Based on what?
>Metroid is dead
Wait until the next game. You've already waited half a decade, you can wait more.
>Pikmin is dead
Pikmin 3 was great. And Pikmin 4 is coming soon.
>WarioWare is dead
Game & Wario was admittedly lacking in quantity, but it was still a great game and sold at a cheap price.
>Fire Emblem is dead
Fuck off you "woe is me FE died with Awakening!". And Fates has been great.

>Mario rehashes and spin-offs up the ass
The Mario games we have gotten have been great. And weren't you just now lamenting over Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi, two Mario spinoff franchises?
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>>315296785
>Metroid is dead

Please look forward for Federation Force !
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>>315296785
>>Paper Mario is dead
it's that guy again. sage, hide, report. He'll make it in an hour again anyway.
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>>315298078
Don't forget Overwatch ! the TF2 killer :)
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>>315298659
It's even more casual than Splatoon. Amazing.
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>>315296785
The only dead thing when it comes to nintendo are the people who knew how to shitpost. You neo/v/ babies aren't even trying
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>Censored

Oh no, now you'll have to play Fatal Frame and Xenoblade as actual games instead as an excuse to hot glue your modified Peach Amiibo that now looks like Bayonetta.
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>>315298269

why oh why did i read this piece of shit?
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>>315297704
This right here.
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>>315298659
>>315298746
How do you kill what is already dead?
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>>315296785
Shame OP isn't dead yet.
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>>315298921
>Third most played game on Steam
>Dead
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Seriously, we all need to sell our nintendo products and buy and epic PS4 for true gamers.
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>>315296785
>Zelda is on delayed life support
>by the time Zelda U recovers from its long coma nobody will give a shit because dozens of games will have done the open world thing better
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>>315299028
When was the last time you cared about TF2 updates? New TF2 item releases? Competitive TF2?

TF2 has a lot of players, but so does Counter Strike. No one cares man, they are just empty holes where you put all the people who know nothing but FPS games.
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>>315299082
you're retarded if you didn't expect zelda to be delayed. That or your too young to remember the last console zelda release.
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>>315299082
>dozens of games will have done the open world thing better
where? Witcher is a disaster, Metal gear too, and fallout looks like a new low in the genre. Gta was and is still always shit. There's no competition, the genre isn't a genre, it's an excuse for shit empty worlds and bugged pathfinding.
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>>315298894
I know, took me weeks to recover.
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>>315299082
>dozens of games will have done the open world thing better
Like, previous Zelda games?
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>>315299471
I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but Zelda past LttP is shit.
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>>315299181
You could say the exact thing about overwatch.
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>Do you want a new Metroiddu game? Take a rook at this neat spin-off!
>Wii U fellows, do you want a new Animaru Curossing, don't you? Don't worry! Take this funny party game!
>Anyone asked for a new Chibi Robo game? Nobody? Ok, take this wonderful 2D platforming game anyway! And remember: if this doesn't sells well, we'll kill this Chibi Bastardu.
>So, waiting for a new Zelda game, huh? Take this amazing multiplayer game. And get ready to pay for more content!
>What is a Mario? Everybody loves Miis, so we make a Mii game for mobiles. This will be a great success!

>Hory shit, why so much hate? We're given cool things to you you ungratefur peopre


You know, Nintendo always listen to their fans.
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Gaming in general is dead.
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>>315299571
Yes, and we will. The game will likely fade away quickly, because the 'goofy shooter' genre can't hold people's interest for long.

And mind you, Overwatch has an advantage over TF2. TF2 made it so the weapons were the new and fresh thing. They won't make any new TF2 classes, and now they've even stopped making new weapons.

Overwatch has gone with the MOBA formula. They can keep putting in new characters, and people may at least come back for those, even if briefly.

I play TF2 once a year now. During Halloween, because it is how me and a friend keep in touch every year. Besides that, I forget the game even exists.
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>>315299686
>a new Animaru Curossing, don't you? Don't worry!
New Leaf was seriously just a couple of years ago.
What's with the Animal Crossing fans infesting /v/? Japanese fans are overall quite happy and even these lower budgeted games have been doing well. People are still playing New Leaf and people are happy.
What the fuck is wrong with you people who can't stay happy? What do you even want? An HD New Leaf port on the Wii U under a different name so that you can feel special about playing a new Animal Crossing game on a console over a handheld?
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>Retro will never make another Metroid, forever a DK factory
I don't see the problem here.
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>>315296785
>fire emblem is dead
how to spot butthurt
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>people are actually upset about the lack of wave race

for fucks sake the entire series is nothing but a water tech demo, there's no reason for it to exist when nintendo is going for underpowered hardware
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Why are nostalgiafags so annoying?
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>Nintendo releases a wave of great games back to back, with more to come.
>New Zelda, Yoshi, Mario, a new IP
>More 'Nintendo is dead' threads than ever before

No better sign that this has nothing to do with how Nintendo is doing. It is just 100% shitposting.
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>>315299963
>We're not gonna make an Animal Crossing for the Wii U, play the 3DS one instead.
Excellent.
No wonder why Wii U it's trash.
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>>315299231
Not him, but this delay is quite supprising.
As nobody ever thought nintendo would be so incompetent that they are not able to make one fucking HD zelda within 5 years(it will probably end up with a 7 year dev cycle as it is not slatted for 2016).
And this is also a prime example of the problem nintendo had since 2011, they arent even competent enough to make a game within a decent dev cycle. And when they do its rushed out shit, like mario tenis.
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>>315299082
>by the time Zelda U comes out dozens of games will have already done the same thing better
So it'll be like OoT? That sounds okay.

>>315298073
Wars consistently outsold FE until they stopped making Wars games. Awakening's sales aren't really relevant because if the series had been held to the same standards it would never have been made to begin with.
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>>315298894
>tfw chapters 37 & 38
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>>315301038
Maybe it outsold FE here.
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>>315300512
>Make games for the 3DS
>Release HD versions the following year for the Wii U
>Everyone who bought the 3DS game feels cheated
You would bitch either way.
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>>315300734
Ocarina of Time took 5 years to fucking come out with delay after delay. This is so fucking stupid.
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they seized the world by shitting out novel tech demos 2006-2009/10

they want to make games their wives can play, ie. games that play themselves

their mistake this gen was trying to sell pricey hardware to the blue ocean (now "phone/pad") audience

once they get their ducks in a row and manage to successfully tap this audience again, your ass will be out in the cold even worse. theyre acclimating you to their new direction by selling these novel, unsubstantial spinoffs that borderline on shovelware now
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>>315299994
Amen, brother.
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>>315300378
It's just Sean Fagstrom and his cronies of fagettes. His entire existence is to hate Nintendo and gather an army of people to hate Nintendo too. Nintendo does make it easy though.
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>>315301280
NA, EU, and worldwide.
So literally everywhere except Japan.
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>>315296785
Mamma mia!
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>>315301413
>they want to make games their wives can play, ie. games that play themselves

"They" was Iwata. He's stuffed in an urn, now.
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>>315296785
Did you actually spend hours on creating this huge bait? Seriously nigga? You could be playing vidya instead doing this in the same time.
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Give me Ape Escape.
Give me Spyro.
Give me Crash Bandicoot.
And I repeat. Give me Ape Escape!
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>>315301506
So, not where Nintendo and IS would care?
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>>315301554
Those stupid fucks at Insomniac sold Spyro, Naughty Dog gave away Crash. If you want to play Ape Escape, go to jail and break them out.
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>>315298894
Source? Reverse Image Search broke down for me.
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>>315296785
>>NoA
>>amiibos
>>DLC more rampant than ever thought possible
>>censorship

Don't forget the memes.
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Good nintendo fucking blows
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>>315301805
>Getting mad at humor in a game that doesn't take itself seriously
>Getting mad about stuff you literally don't have to buy
>Getting mad at Nintendo's DLC, the only good DLC in the business that is either full on actual content (like Ryu) or free (like Splatoon guns)
>Getting mad that you can't be a pedophile

stop.getting.mad.at.video.games
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>>315302015
I.think.you.are.the.one.who.sounds.mad.
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>>315299454
Wait, what is it?

I wanna read it now.
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>>315296785
>Smash is dead
>Pokemon is dead
>Pikmin is dead
>Star Fox is dead
>Yoshi is dead
>Fire Emblem is dead

These are all bait
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>>315298073
>Chibi Robo literally just had a game, like two weeks ago or something

Stop reading there
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>>315302015
>>Getting mad at humor in a game that doesn't take itself seriously
>not getting mad at translations adding memes for no reason
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>>315302345
I don't think you know what 'no reason' means.
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>>315302273
He's right tho.
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>>Retro will never make another Metroid, forever a DK factory

I hope Fed Force is a success and takes over the whole franchise.

Metroidfags deserve it.
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>>315302273
The new Star Fox looks pretty shitty desu
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>>315302443
Oh yeah, they added memes for a very good reason, and that reason is...
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>>315302443
Yeah, just like they had a reason to call a Fatal frame 5 trailer "Super spoopy"
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>>315302831
The game doesn't take itself seriously.
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>>315303008
Bingo.

The qualifiers for being a 'hero' in Tri-force heroes are having 'pointy ears, side burns, and hair parted to the side'.

The villain 'curses people with good fashion sense'.

The game is a giant Zelda joke. Get over yourself >>315302831
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>>315296785
You forgot your "Mamma Mia!" shitposter-kun.
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>>315303008
So that makes it okay for the localization team to shit in "jokes" wherever they want instead of doing their job and making an accurate translation?
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>>315296785
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>>315303246
Yes, yes it does.
Try not to lose a lot of sleep over a line about 'ancient ruins'.
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>>315302516
yeah, screw them for complaining about something they didn't want or ask for after 8 years of nothing
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>>315303008
>adding memes that weren't in the original
>ever right
no

The original Jap doesn't take itself seriously, but guess what? No memes there.
And your job as translator is to translate this "not taking itself seriously"-ness in English. Not adding stuff that's not there.
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>>315303246
If they were just a translation team, they would be called a 'translation team'.

They are a localization team. Their job is to make it work for the location the game will be released in. They do not have to be accurate in their translation, and in fact that will often work against their role.
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I wonder if the borderline schizophrenic gaffers making these threads actually think they're fooling anyone.
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>>315303008
Memes aren't good writing in any context. They sure as hell aren't timeless either. Just look at how well that 1337 speak holds up in Mario and Luigi Partners in Time. It doesn't.

Sure this is pretty minor in the long run but holy shit are they behind a couple of years. They might as well put a troll face somewhere. It's 2000+15 and they're still using Doge?
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>>315303570
Localize = change to something the target audience will understand.
Localize != add stuff that's not there for no good reason.
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>>315303273
wew
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>>315303359
Much drone. So retard. Wow.
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>>315303246
>>315303510
>Getting this mad for, literally, just 4 words in a game
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>>315303684
>>315303510
>>315303737
A lot of butthurt over memes.
All three of you should write a stern letter to Nintendo. I'm sure you will make big changes at the company.

But in the meantime, no one else cares.

You didn't like it. Sorry, go return your copy if you bought it, don't go on the internet anymore to avoid those pesky memes. But all your fussing over a joke just makes you sound a little... pitiful.
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>>315303910
>>315303905
Hi, Treehouse.
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>>315303386
And that makes it fair for them to say "this development team should be completely devoted to my favorite series and nothing else, even if they don't want to"

And to say "this game I don't like should be cancelled, even if that just means a longer period of nothing for everybody and would result in nothing positive"

And to constantly derail discussions and make it about how they're the victim and how Nintendo hates them because they didn't mention the 25 year anniversary (and if they had these people would have complained that they didn't have a new game to show for it or some other bullshit)

Face it at this point this fanbase is a lost cause. I bet that even when Nintendo does make a traditional Metroid these shitters will just find other things to cry about.
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>>315303386

>Fans whine for a new Metroid Prime.
>New Metroid Prime comes out.
>WAHHH THIS ISN'T WHAT I WANTED.

Never mind that Metroid Prime has a fucking PINBALL game in its library, suddenly the first-person shooter coming out is the abomination.
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>>315296785
>Welp, it was a fun ride while it lasted bros. See ya on the master race sector.
and it only took you this long, faggot?
I jumped the Shitendo ship after the N64.
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>>315303975
Hi, my butthurted friend :^)
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>>315304229
Where are the memes, man?
THE MEMES, WHERE ARE THEY?
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>>315304018
B-but don't you see they went a decade with nothing they're literally starving to death!

So in other words the game itself isn't the problem it's entirely just that they're making it instead of a real Metroid, so the same reason they shat on Tropical Freeze and could theoretically use to shit on absolutely anything Nintendo makes that isn't Metroid.
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>>315304018
fed force isn't prime at all
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>>315298806
/thread
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>>315303273
Rollan
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>>315304001
that's the thing, they keep asking for a real game and they got something that isn't a real game
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>>315296785
>is an "Is dead" thread
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>>315303273

rollan
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>>315303910
7H15 "J0K3" D035N'7 H01D UP 47 4LL.
Such shit. So writing. Very memes. Wow.
Epic win amirite? xD

>>315303975
I wouldn't doubt it. How else would that disgusting dogfucking open relationship meme monster see all those "hateful messages" from here?
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>>315303273
Roll
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>>315303273
Rollin
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>>315303273
rol
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>>315304365
In Zelda Tri Force Heroes, are you blind?
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>>315296785
you forgot
>now develop shitty mobile game
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>>315303273
take me away
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>>315303273
Dude.
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>>315304707
It's not enough, man. I need memes EVERYWHERE even when they have no reason to be there! I need MORE MEMES!
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>Paper Mario is dead

No it's not, the last game was in 2012, and it's currently getting a new game with Mario and Luigi

>Mario and Luigi are dead

Uh no, Dream Team and Paper Jam exist, with DT's "flaws" being people pretending that tutorials didn't exist in past games

>Smash is dead

Now your just being a Melee fag

>chibi Robo is dead
We just had I an experimental game

>Pokemon is dead
Yokai watch fags on damage control

>Metroid is dead

Federation Force is going to be a good game you know

>Star Fox is dead

Star Fox Zero was going to be good game, the delay will make it an even better game, seriously why are people backpedaling when Zero is exactly the sequel we wanted?

>Pikmin is dead

Pikmin 3 was 2013 and Miyamoto confirmed a Pikmin 4

Your points are grasping anon naming franchises to be a bitch about

>>>>It's okay that there is 3 Metroid Prime games, and a handheld game

>>>Pretending Amiibos are bad when they gave Nintendo the money they lost with the Wii U

>Whinning about censorship that only affect sexual costumes and not the actual fucking game

>Still projecting that Auonoma is a boogeyman because you want Zelda to be Dark Souls

Good job fuck boi
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>>315296785
so gaming is pretty much dead then OP? I mean what's the point of getting a Ps4 or Xbox this gen then?
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>>315304950
>no reason
You keep saying that...
Odd words coming from a man on a meme website, who is spouting memes, about hating memes.
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>>315304950
y'know what fuck it let's just hire people who don't speak japanese to write their own, meme-filled scripts

it's not like the games take themselves seriously, so it's totally okay.
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>>315297191
FE is dead. And the next game is gonna censored to fuck.
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>>315299380
>Witcher
>bad open world

You kiss your mother with that mouth?
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>>315305142
Do you really think Tri-force heroes would have suffered if this was the case?

It probably would have been funnier.

You aren't making a good case here meme-anon.
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>>315296785
>TFW ts is actually right
>Nintoddlers will still argue
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>>315298073
good post
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>>315303273
Sure, why not
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>>315305256
I know right? Who doesn't love them MEMES?
Who needs faithful translations? Losers, that's who.
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>>315305059
>Federation Force is going to be a good game you know
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>>315305425
Save faithful translations for games with stories that need faithful translations.

Tri-force heroes is not that.
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>Splatoon dead on release

Being a nintendrone must be suffering.
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>>315299380
>waaaah open worlds are empty because I don't understand what "empty" actually means and have severe ADHD

Here we go again.
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>>315305059
the last paper mario game that was released came out in 2004.
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>>315299082

>Long coma

Your a fucking retard if thought Zelda U was actually gonna be 2015

Console Zelda runs on a five year life span

It was obvious from the start that Zelda U would be out in 2016
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>>315305607
>Save faithful translations for games with stories that need faithful translations
Oh right, I forgot you have a limited number of faithful translation you can make at a time.
It's not like they can make every translation faithful. Right, sorry about that.
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>>315305741
>Your a fucking retard if thought Zelda U was actually gonna be 2015
didn't they say at first it would be released this year?
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>>315305607
just u wait next game ull c text speak 4 an entire conversation. do u srsly want this? lol roflmao. do u srsly think this is good writing? gotta keep up with those kids today right?
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are there any games that reference spurdo?
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>>315305869
Well okay, now you're just repeating yourself.

If you want to keep having this pointless conversation I'm going to need a little more effort out of you.
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>>315305741
He's right though in the sense that a lot of the currently released open world games this gen will probably be much, much better than Zelda U's implementation of an open world.

Everyone on /v/ bitches about Witcher III because it's too popular, but it really did raise the bar for console open worlds in a lot of ways.
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>>315305736
this
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>>315305736
Wrong. Wether or not the games are good your statment is still wrong.
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>>315296785
More like your taste is dead.
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>>315305607
Why can't you have every translation be faithful?
Especially when the EU one is just that?

Why do you keep defending the Treehouse, it doesn't make any sense. Unless you're one of them, or worse, you actually like having memes in your video games.
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>>315306153
that is not a paper mario game anon.
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>>315305736
Sticker Star was pretty good.
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>>315305607
Yeah, it's clearly not serious so it's okay to get some jokers who know nothing about writing to just fill a game with memes.

Fuck let's just call Link's companion in every Zelda game "Trollface" and he speaks like the i can haz cheezburger cats. Comedy fucking gold right there. He probably would have been silly or said something I take offense to anyway.
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>>315306193
/thread
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>>315301370
There hasnt been a good zelda game since.
>inb4 you greentext a list of shitty zelda games that arent as good as OoT
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>>315301780
Seishun Pop !
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>>315306265
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>>315306447
>he speaks like the i can haz cheezburger cats. Comedy fucking gold right there.
Been there, done that.
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>>315297335
jeez anon, NO ONE is going to know what that is!
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>>315305960
Memes and Internet speak are not good writing period. I guarantee some game in the future will say "f a m" and you'd defend it. Fantastic writing right? Are you actually going to defend Fatal Frame's "Super Spoopy" Trailer? That's a game that isn't meant to be taken seriously right? Let's add Tumblr memes to the trailer of a survival horror game.
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>>315302238

>>315306553

Prepare the tissue box
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>>315301370
Most of OoT's development time was spent on textures and modeling since the 3D graphical upgrade was something completely new for a lot of the staff at the time.
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>>315306553
Ah, fuck that manga. I read about one chapter and dropped it. Too much normieness for me.
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>>315306624
that is a mario game stylized as a paper mario game. it is not a real paper mario game.
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>>315305059

>DT's "flaws" we're just people pretending that past games didn't have tutorials

This

Also Paper Jam seems to be shat on because people can't understand the entire point of the game is for Enemies to fight with their Paper selves
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>>315303273
Roll
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>>315306832
You should have stuck to it, ends in tears and incest
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>>315305736

Super Paper Mario exists and that has everything that made the games great in a different gameplay style

Sticker star also exists and it's has the best puzzles in the series
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>>315306872
>the entire point of the game is for Enemies to fight with their Paper selves

Well I guess that sounds right given what we've seen but that seems like a pretty boring ass direction to take that concept given how much potential there is in it.
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>>315306861
>I will define the franchise despite the franchise itself
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>>315296785
The greatest problem at Nintendo is their attitude of "We know what you want better than you do". They just don't want to listen to the feedback on a grand scale.
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>>315307096
Are we talking about Paper Mario or Super Smash Bros. here?
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>>315303273
ok
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>>315303273
why not
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>>315304950
Seriously, it's pretty funny to see how salty you are for this shit.

>Complaining about memes in 4chan
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>>315307413
I know right? FALCON PUNCH! YES! SHOW ME YOUR MOVES!

What's an F-Zero?
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>>315305607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLmD_69pXpk
Welcome to 2017 Treehouse writing. It's ok if the game isn't taken seriously though right?
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>>315307413
>>315303905
>lol u mad?

I mean if you have nothing to add you might as well not post at all.
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>>315307208
>They just don't want to listen to the feedback on a grand scale.

If they didn't listen to feedback, they wouldn't have delayed Star Fox Zero, hold a Smash Ballot to hear what people wanted for DLC characters, and patch in stuff like making your own teams in Splatoon.
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>>315303273
give me /k/ or give me death
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>>315305741
>Console Zelda runs on a five year life span
OoT through TP had 2-3 years per game, TP would have been out 2005 if not for Wii version delays
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>>315307739
you can't get doubles you moron
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>>315307684
I do whatever I want.

Like NoA :^)
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>>315303273
Roll
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>>315307076
the gameplay was a big part of what made PM great

The gameplay in SPM was a mess. It tried to be a platformer with bland level design, and it tried to be an RPG with no real customization.
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>>315307096
What i'm trying to say is that to the everyday normal human being (one who does not play shitty games) paper mario has been dead since 2004.
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>>315304396

>Metroid PRIME: Federation Force.
>Not Metroid Prime.
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>>315308091
Yeah. But despite any complaints, it was still a Paper Mario game.
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>>315308474
it's metroid prime in the same way metroid prime pinball is
it's just the name, there are only 3 "real" prime games
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>>315303273
send me to /vp/ for a bit
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>RTS are dead
>JRPGs are dead
>platformers are dead
>indies are unironically the only hope gaming has
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>>315308517
by that logic, Crash Bandicoot is still alive and kicking

People don't enjoy these games for the titles, they enjoy them for the substantive content.

To assert anything else is to be pedantic,
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>>315308703
Then it's a Prime spinoff. Still Prime, just not mainline Prime (mainprime)
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The only games I've enjoyed in the last 2 years were Binding of Isaac updates, Souls rehashes and nintendo platformers

I might just be growing out of vidya
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>>315308703

>Hunters is first-person shooter.
>Doesn't count.
>Federation Force is first-person shooter.
>Doesn't count.

I bet you're one of those faggots who say 3D World and 3D Land aren't "real" 3D Mario games, too.
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>>315308853
yeah
people have been asking for a main game for years and all they got was a silly spinoff
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>>315307550

This is the problem with memes

Y'all shitlords can't meme right.
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>>315308774
One, Crash Bandicoot always sucked ass, people with playstations were just desperate.

Two, yes that would mean Crash Bandicoot had a game released in 2008.

What is your point? That if the game doesn't live up to lofty standards it should be stricken from the record? Good or bad, a game is still in the series it belongs to.
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>>315308980
>ALBW is a 3D Zelda
>doesn't count
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>>315307728
Still I am sure the smash ballot will be a fiasco in some way, and I am certain smash 4 changed many things just to screw over competitive gameplay which is essentially shooting themselves in the leg.

Starfox isn't even out and that still leaves F-Zero, Wario Land and others out. Hell it's not even that they don't givr a proper Paper Mario, there is no proper new Mario RPG.
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>>315309042
Likely because Nintendo is just shitting out small things in the meantime between now and the NX launch.

If they had made a mainline game instead of FF it would have been just as rushed and mediocre looking as it does.
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>>315309250
how would you know?
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>>315309195
>screw over competitive gameplay which is essentially shooting themselves in the leg
Right because the tourneyfags are the majority of the smash fanbase.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>315296785
Good Nintendo games are overrated medicore rubbish desu.

Apart from Advance Wars.
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>>315309448
I wish Moot2 would wordfilter kek to ufufu
It would make everything much better
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>>315309325
Just a hunch based on the fact that everything Nintendo has in production right now looks rushed and mediocre with the exceptions of Starfox and Zelda which are only like that because they've been stuck in development since before Nintendo started shifting focus away from their current systems.
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Daily reminder that this guy is responsible for killing Metroid and Chibi Robo.
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When it comes right down to it, Nintendo really doesn't care about the quality of their games. It comes down to the talent, creativity and drive of the actual developer

I think this is best exemplified by comparing Yoshi games made by Artoon to Yoshi games made by Good-Feel

Monolith, Good-Feel, Retro etc. can be relied upon to put out solid games. Although some of the greats have plunged hard (looking at you, Intelligent systems)
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>>315310149
>Tanabe killed Metroid
>Not Sakamoto

>Tanabe killed Chibi-Robo
>Not NoA as a whole
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>>315305059
>DT's "flaws" being people pretending that tutorials didn't exist in past games

DT just happened to have more of them than ever before.
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>>315303273
Fuck it, two tears in the bucket
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>>315305059
>>315310421
The biggest "fuck you" in DT was forcing the player to sit through the same tutorials in hard mode, despite the fact that they couldn't be there unless they had already beaten the goddamn game

It is so stupid, and so avoidable that it is almost insulting
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RIP nintendo
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>>315310926
Rise from the ashes with change and new leadership.
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>>315311058
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>>315298746
>Super MNC Entry
>developers helped cultivate a poisonous community culture

Anyone mind explaining this? This seems pretty odd all things considered.
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>>315298073
>Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi is getting a game soon that looks like their best one yet.
You are completely fucked in the head if you think this Paper Jam will, in ANY capacity, surpass SSS/BIS or Paper Mario/TTYD

>Fire Emblem
Fates isn't even out yet, but I don't even need to play it to see the glaring problems the new aesthetic has brought with it. I'm fine with the designs and T&A shoved everywhere, but shit like having the Avatar character be even MORE of a special snowflake, wishy-washy faggot is indicative of a mind set that will forever stain the already mediocre narratives of FE. In a game like FE where it's entirely PvE, the story is pretty important.

>It's "our" fault AW died
I don't fucking think so. If IS put in half of the effort they did into Awakening in terms of production value and advertising, you can bet your stupid fucking ass that it'd sell. They even got the KOF artist to do the CO designs for Days of Ruin (which actually had a much better American localization than what Europe got), so it's not like the games couldn't be stylish. Lin was hotter and a better character than any of the characters in Awakening and, presumably, Fates.

>No one cares that F-Zero is dead. Play 200cc Mario Kart 8 and get over it.
Clearly you never played F-Zero or never got good enough to fully enjoy them. McFucking kill yourself you sanctimonious doublenigger. I don't know if this was supposed to be bait or you thought it sounded cool in your head, but please, for all that is good, stop posting if this is the kind of shit you honestly believe.

F-Zero and MK 200cc are not even in the same genre of racing games. For one thing, I can actually make a turn in F-Zero without having to rape the brake until I'm literally inching through a turn on a track that clearly was not designed around such a "high" game speed.
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you forgot Animal Crossing's death
;_;
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>>315298073
>Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi is getting a game soon that looks like their best one yet.

Stopped reading there.
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>>315296785
>doesn't prove how any are dead

OP is dead
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>>315296785
>chibi robo is dead
>more fake chibi robo fans spotted
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>>315302015
>the only good DLC in the business

Oh, this Nintendelusion.
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>>315298073
>just because games are released doesn't mean that it isn't dead

ever heard of zombies?

FF will never be as good as it was, same goes for Pokemon, Zelda, Animal Crossing, Mario Party and probably some more.
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>>315296785
>a bunch of stuff nobody bought, series that ran their course and nobody wanted to work on anymore, and stuff /v/ hates because they brought on different artists and staff over the course of decades
Oh no, absolutely nothing.
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Why would you whine about rehashes and then complain about Retro not pumping out yet another Metroid? They were running on fumes by Prime 3.
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>>315313396
Sequel /= rehash.
Every Prime game is distinct. While Tropical Freeze is a rehash.
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>>315313507
>Prime
>distinct

I bet you think New Super Mario Bros. is "distinct."
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>>315313507
It was a good game and an improvement over its predecessor, as opposed to Prime 2 and 3 trending towards gimmicks and linearity because they'd already used up all their good ideas for a traditional Metroid on Prime 1.
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>>315296785
Why did you all even fucking reply to this shit?
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>>315297191
>What happened

You purchased casualized shit games with the Wii, Nintendo made bank, became greedy and stopped producing real games once they realized they could churn out garbage and make money from retards with no standards.

The fuck you think us old fucks have been complaining about since 2007 when this rampant casualization began? You're JUST NOW waking up? God I hate you kids. And now because they tasted casual money they're going for mobile, GOOD FUCKING JOB. Even if they're not making games on mobile entirely, they're trying to draw in the mobile audience. I fucking hate you all.

You faggots defended DLC, amiibos, gimmicks until your fingertips bled, and now you want out? Fuck you suffer with the rest of us.
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>>315313742
No I think it's cancer.
Prime 1: The first 3D Metroid game
Prime 2: The one with the dark/light dynamic and ammo
Prime 3: The one which introduced ballin' controls.

Returns: A nice return to classic DK platforming
Tropical Freeze: Said return overstaying it's welcome.
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>>315313915
the post count implies OP roleplays with himself a lot when things are slow.
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>>315314020
Only Sean Malstrom does this.
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>>315313038
You know what I don't understand?

Why does a company like Nintendo, who has more than set a precedent for reusing/re-releasing/rehashing/re-whateverthefuckyouwanttocallit-ing their games, never done so for their non-flagship ips?

I don't think anyone would ever object to a "Mario Party Collection" of the first 3 that let you play any board map with any mini game set.

That shit would be fucking dope.

More importantly, WHY do they constantly casualize their flagship IP's or, even worse, use them as guinea pigs for Miyamoto's latest stupid fucking gimmick brainchild?

Why not test the Wii U tablet controller's legitimacy with a resurected HD update of Gamecube's Custom Robo, with the tablet's screen either being used to display robo data, customization, parts info and the 1st person perspective.

FFS, Nintendo has barely even utilized their OWN FUCKING DESIGN with thier WiiU games. It's like they've gone full Bethesda and just figured the game dev's would figure out how to make use of the Tablet.

It's fucking retarded. The Tablet is way less gimmicky than the waggle-mote, yet they've barely begun to tap into its potential.

Too bad they'll never get the chance now.
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>>315314353
they don't do game collections, why would they bundle games together when they can make more cash by selling them separately?
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Videogames in general have gone downhill since 2007
There are way too many casuals that buy anything, so smart consumers, or anyone with standards suffer because of them
I pretty much only play old games now
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>>315312676

Except it is?

>After 4 games we finally get a true upgrade into a 3-Man system

>Paper Mario's moveset includes blocking

>Paper Characters have a unique copy ability that doesnt serve any purpose other than reminding you that Paper Mario power and health system are a lot smaller than M&L

>No more garbage 2D Sections that stall the fuck out of the game and the reason DT dragged so long

>Toad scavenger hunt minigames

>Papercraft Mario, which will possibly have more abilities depending the state of the game just like Bowser and Dreamy Luigi have

>Paper Bowser Talks and argues with Bowser while Bowser Jr and Paper Juniour become best friends
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>>315315139

I wasn't wowed with Paper Craft Mario and it looked boring

However like you said, all the footage seems to be the first encounter

If they upgrade Paper craft Mario with more attacks then I'll definitely like it more
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>>315314002

Tropical Freeze had a lot more new ideas that Returns

Returns was just "Oh hey look it's the classic game made now"

Tropical Freeze was them going ham in everything as what they wanted it to be rather than Nostalgia pandering
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>>315303273
Roll
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>>315313507
you can't be serious
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>>315314002
>>315313507

>Dixie and Cranky made partners more like power ups rather than assist

>Minecart is a lot distinctive and dynamic than rehashing the classic Minecarts like return did

>Level design is top notch and has the Vikings using each and every area for their own purposes rather than Returns where it's just classic areas again

>David Fucking Wise composing a lot of good new music compared to Return's only relevant music being remakes that Didn't even do it good and Rocket Barrel

>You could swim
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>>315314002
Topical Freeze introduced balling new "non-waggle" controls

Also Cranky Kong made the game Sanic fast
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>>315303273
rollin'
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>>315315139
And all of this exciting shit playing out in a generic green field
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>>315303273
Rolllle
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>>315296785

>Nintendo will die in your lifetime

Justice.
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>>315303273
Rolling.
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>>315298073
>that looks like their best one yet.
How?

>Smash Bros 4 is not only good enough that it has made the Project M community look like babies for hanging on to their melee focus, but it gets DLC of characters we would never expect to see in a Smash game.
Yes.

>Chibi Robo literally just had a game, like two weeks ago or something
Well it bombed in multiple ways. I think it's an okay game and I also think that Chibi-Robo was going to die anyway but they could have sent him out with a game in his traditional vein.

>Pokemon has been pokemon for I don't know how long. If you are mad about it now, blame your nostalgia, not the games.
Not an excuse for stagnation.

>Pikmin 3 was amazing
Yep, I don't know if I'd say it improved on the originals but it was good.

>Yoshi's Wooly World is Yoshi's Island plus
Yes.

>Fire Emblem is getting a mainline game, AND a crossover
Yeah I don't get people who complain about Fire Emblem. I don't believe they are actual fans of the earlier games at all. I've played every one (many with fan translation) and I'm excited about FE's current status.

So to recap, you admitted 5 of those things were dead.

4/7 of the others I'd agree with you but the other 3 I think are pretty safe to call disappointing currently.

So that's 8 disappointing current statuses to 7 promising ones...

Not exactly amazing.
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>no new IPs
>constant rehashes and reintroductions with hardly any improvement beyond graphics and gimmicks (check out that waggle! and look, you have to look at TWO screens!)
Nintendo is failing to adapt or at least innovate in a way that allows them to thrive

the only thing keeping them afloat is their reputation and not the games they're releasing
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>>315298078
>Mom only lets me buy one character and one booster pack a week with her child support money

This is painfully funny because of how true it must be.
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>>315299082
>dozens of games will have done the open world thing better
Almost every game in that genre I've played has been done poorly.

I can't even think of a good one.

I guess if Morrowind is an open-world game it's good. Can't think of much else.

Witcher 3 is pretty good too actually.

That's probably my full list.
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>>315319070

we had multiple new IPs in the last few years.
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>>315303273
Tell me nigga
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>>315319592
Poster here, Twitter is for faggots but I guess
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>>315303273
>Saved For Shitposting Threads

kek
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>>315296785
>>Retro will never make another Metroid, forever a DK factory

Shut up, those are two of the best platformers to ever exist. At least you got your Prime trilogy, they probably won't ever touch DK again because of everyone bitching.
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>>315316712

>Generic green field

Like Bowser's Inside Story right?

Keep in mind, the areas are supposed to be merged with the Paper World, that's what's unique about it
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>>315320540
oh yeah, because the "paper world" was so creative in Sticker Star

The Mansion and the Ski Lift were the only things that didn't feel ridiculously generic. I mean they literally lifted the "purple goop forest" wholesale from NSMB
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>>315318287
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>>315316712

>Generic green field

Like every other Mario and Luigi game anon

Like seriously what the fuck are you smoking?
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>>315314353
>Why not test the Wii U tablet controller's legitimacy with a resurected HD update of Gamecube's Custom Robo, with the tablet's screen either being used to display robo data, customization, parts info and the 1st person perspective.
You'd love that but not enough people would buy it.

>YES DEY WOULD

No, they really wouldn't.

Sales don't matter to consumers but they should to the publishers. They can't waste energy doing things that will lose money.

Look at the Wii-U as a whole, development resources have been siphoned away for NX because of the lack of sales.
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>>315303273
>>
ITT: If the last game in a series wasn't absolutely perfect, the series is officially "dead" and is beyond salvation
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>>315321937
re-rolling
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>>315321986
>ITT: If the last game in a series wasn't absolutely perfect
Or even good really.
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>>315322039
Fuck this shit, I'm staying here.
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>>315320805

Except the Poison Forest was great

Neither Paper Mario's did a proper forest
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>>315321986
Advance Wars Days of Ruin actually was perfect, though. Checkmate, atheists.
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>>315303273
eh ok
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>>315303273
Roll
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>>315322284
You're right. PM64's forest was just a small part of a much bigger chapter. It had a fun puzzle, and we got the Boo Mansion and Tubba Blubba's castle to fill it out.

Shitter Star's chapter never had you leave the forest, You got one setting for the entire thing. And despite this derth of content, they had the balls to give us 5 chapters instead of 7. It felt like nobody really gave a fuck about this game.
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>>315322330
>F-Zero GX was perfect
>Metroid Prime series was perfect
>Pokemon Platinum/Soulsilver/Heartgold were perfect
What's your point?
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>>315313964
Anon, I completely dropped them at the Wii
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Exactly what does nintendo have going for it at this point? its future looks darker than that of the xbone.
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>>315323215
That's kind of how I feel.

The horizon looks bleak because of their zipped lips on NX.

Once E3 hits we'll know if all hope is lost or if there is potential.
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>>315322945
Nothing, really, I just like trying to hijack these threads and make them about my series-fu
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>>315301370
>OoT
>five years
>N64 launched in 1996
>OoT released 1998

>five years
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>>315323215
Zelda, Starfox, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Mario & Luigi, Rhythm Heaven, Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest.

I dont know how thats darker than Xboner or PS4 even.
Games are there and games are coming. People just dont want Nintendo anymore.
People didnt want Nintendo after the SNES already.
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>>315300734
>as it is not slatted for 2016
That's not the same thing as being confirmed to not release in 2016 though.
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>>315325098
I feel like RH is dead after the 3DS game though

It felt like send off, and Tsunko's on the way out
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>>315313964
This
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>>315313964
>all that text
Yeah but Wii-U has failed commercially, so they now understand it was a one-time thing.
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>>315326189
Yeah, its possible.
Still a game to look forward to though, as sad as it is.
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>>315303737
>Localize = change to something the target audience will understand.
and what do you think 10 year olds who just discovered the internet will understand?
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>>315303273
Roll.
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>>315303273
MIGHT AS WELL
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>>315322937
>the 4 sticker star panels

Can anyone rearrange those into a loss edit?
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>>315296785
>Mario & Luigi are
Not how that works, fuckface.
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>>315327243
Eh
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>>315298073
>Smash Bros 4 is not only good enough that it has made the Project M community look like babies for hanging on to their melee focus, but it gets DLC of characters we would never expect to see in a Smash game.
amazing you focus on competing with a non-Smash game than what's really the big problem of Smash Bros. (i play Brawl Minus and 64)

Smash is dead because competitivefags and stream monsters took over the focus of the community and every inclusion/no inclusion doesn't benefit anything to a franchise Nintendo/Guests fans, aside Smashers, love anymore.
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>>315303273
Rollie Rollie Rollie oooooooo
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>>315298073
>>315328271
not to mention, Smash fans have developed a tinfoil hat mentality where everything Sakurai does could be a hack move or typical ruse.

for example, people claiming the ballot is a sham and the ballot is following by election-like rules than what you call a suggestion box (put in a vote, sakurai and his team researches the character, it's familiarity, and demand, develop that character if no problems comes up, implement it into the roster.)
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>Caring about Nintendo still

Why do this to yourself?
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>>315328271
I dont believe that.
The majority of people still buy Smash Bros to play it casually.

Many got hyped for 4 because it added Megaman and shit.

Like 11million or something people bought Smash Bros 4. They definitely arent all competitive. Not even a quarter of them.
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All I want is a new F-Zero and Wave Race. That's all I want for now.
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>>315329053
Other vidya publishers are THAT shitty. I know, it's hard to believe.
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>>315329053
I like quality.
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>>315329129
>The majority of people still buy Smash Bros to play it casually.
and that's where the stream monster play it role here

there's a chance all the people shitposting which Smash is superior don't even play and study the games at all but funpost on the internet about it.
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>>315302273

Pokémon is stagnant for a decade, new star fox is obvious trash
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>>315303273
CHAOS
CONTROL!!!
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>>315329375
you're gonna have a real shock when TPP passes and Nintendo comes in and shut down everything you love about Nintendo.
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>>315329435
>there's a chance all the people shitposting which Smash is superior don't even play and study the games at all but funpost on the internet about it.
Of course they do.

That has nothing to do with the game being alive or dead or whatever.
People just want to feel superior about the party game they prefer to play or just rile others up.

But that wont stop actual fans from playing. Many still see Smash Bros for what it actually is.
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>>315329664
>Nintendo shutting down my Marios
Highly unlikely.
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I don't like where the series is going = series is dead
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>>315329434

I like Blizzard too.
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>>315300151
I like jet skis because they're fun and have a comfy atmosphere about them.
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>>315296785
At least Nintendo games are cheap

Code Name STEAM is $20 and Chibi Robo with Amiibo is $30 on Amazon
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>>315300151
People will always bitch the most about whatever is not currently out.
And when it actually comes out they proceed to not give a shit and pick the next series that didnt get an entry in a while.

Happened to Star Fox. Happened to Donkey Kong.
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>>315313964
Most people just bought the Wii and first party games though

NSMBW is the best selling Wii game, followed by other Mario games

They made money off the console and tried to run on the success of the name
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>>315303273
ROLLING
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>>315330230
You are responding to a shitposter.

Everybody loves to ignore that the Gamecube was already a WiiU tier flop.
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>>315330451
What fucked Nintendo up more, the Wii U or the Gamecube?
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>>315329664
Um. What?

>shut down everything you love about Nintendo
What does this mean?
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>fire emblem dead
baka desu senpai
>smash dead
baka desu senpai
>Retro will never make another Metroid
they don't want to, and even if they'd did no one would buy it
>censorship
fuck your potato baka desu senpai

the rest i don't give a fuck about
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>>315330569
The true answer is the N64.
Thats when everybody jumped ship because they lost the major third party support and because Sonys and Segas marketing fucked their image for the newer generation.
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>>315303273
Please
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>>315303273
fred durst
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>>315318779
As a long time fan of the FE series, the shift of focus from pure gameplay and plot into fanservicy waifu/husbando pandering has been somewhat concerning, especially with Awakening's difficulty options that ranged from "Piss fucking easy", "Still easy" and "RNG bullshit: the mode".

From what I've heard and seen Fates does a lot to fix the gameplay issues Awakening had however, so for me as long as that keeps up I can grin and bear with the waifushit.
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this whole gen is fucking shit so far
for every console besides maybe the 3ds
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>>315331517
Man my 3DS is only used for third party games these days. I think the only first party one I have is Luigi's Mansion.
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>>315296785
>Retro will never make another Metroid, forever a DK factory
Why do people think this? They've only made two over about the same time span as the Metroid games.
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>>315331853
my 3ds library is split for 3rd and 1st party games
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>>315330594
TPP will give them more power over copyright

and with TPP killing fair usage, any picture that has Mario or your Nintendo waifu on it is all fucking illegal for personal distribution

you already see how Nintendo's suddenly on a hunt for Mario kaizo romhacks on youtube, yeah TPP will clean out shit like Racist Mario or any related e-celeb shit, but it'll kill away all the cool shit like SMBZ and Power Star off the internet or any harmless replays of any Smash Bros match.

aside sweatshops, Nintendo is already going down the path to be way too much like Disney
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>>315332131
None of these things are "anything I love about Nintendo".
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>>315329572

>A game that hadn't come out that is literally 64 2.0 featuring Walker is apparently bad for no reasons stated other than boogeyman Miyamoto
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>>315330798
This anon knows what's up.
I was the N64 kid and although I loved the console and its small, yet amazing library I always longed for a Playstation which had games like Resident Evil, Tenchu, Tekken, Gran Turismo, all those amazing weeb RPGs, etc.
When the Gamecube came out I was in my teen years and didn't bother with Nintendo anymore. Went full PC Master Race + Playstation and this has been the case ever since.

I would love to own a Nintendo console again and play their games, but for that they need to stop producing shit consoles and most importantly shit, lackluster and unimaginative by-the-numbers Nintendo rehashes for 4 year old retards or late 20s/early 30s bumbling permavirgin manchildren with derping nostalgia syndrome.
One of my best friends got himself a Wii U with smash, kart, donkey kong, w101. I tried them all and was disappointed. They simply lack the magic old Nintendo games had and I'm no some jaded prick who can't enjoy video games anymore.
Simply put: Nintendo is shit and has been for a very long time.
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>>315320805

Your missing the point anon

The areas are gonna be collided areas with Regular and Paper aspects

And the games artstyle in general looks great because it's basically Dream Team's area designs except the focus is that there is areas dominated in paper

Have you played any Mario and Luigi game? They all use a generic setting with something unique like being a park, having ruins etc
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>>315330691
>no one would buy it
last primes sold nearly 2 millions

unless, you're talking about 2D metroid, Zero Mission sold pretty weak. and Other M selling like how Starfox 643D sold (taking like a whole gen to to get a least under 1m-1.5m copies sold)
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It's a shame about Mario Tennis, I was looking forward to a new console game and they rushed it out the door for the holidays
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>>315318779
>Yeah I don't get people who complain about Fire Emblem. I don't believe they are actual fans of the earlier games at all. I've played every one (many with fan translation) and I'm excited about FE's current status.

There are legitimate problems with Awakening's design, especially in terms of map design and balance. I don't think the flaws ruin the game (much like how the shit map design and balance of FE4 doesn't make it an unenjoyable game) but I understand the hate for it.

Fates looks like a step in the right direction gameplay wise, but is a complete shitshow aesthetically. On balance it still looks good though.
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>>315332397
Nah you're full of shit too. Like, extremely full of shit.

WiiU games are really high quality and many of them are better than what you used to see on older systems.
If you disagree you dont know shit about videogames.

But its not enough. The fact that Nintendo systems can sell 10-20million times on first party support alone is impressive.
Nobody else would be able to pull this off.


The thing is, when someone wants to buy a system he will most likely just want one system.
Now which one do you take, the one with Nintendo first parties only or the one that has all the other third parties that exist?

Its not a hard decision to make. If Nintendo had these multiplats things would look differently. The SNES was just that. The SNES wasnt great because of Nintendos games only. It had support from EVERY third party except Sega.

And its not like those who buy Sony or MS these days are people with elite tastes.
The top selling games on the competitors systems are Call of Duty, Fifa, Madden and Assassins Creed.
But I guess making actual lackluster and unimaginative by-the-numbers rehashes for 4 year old retards is alright when someone not Nintendo does it.
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>>315332330
the majority of core and hardcore Nintendo fans really care about their fan shit.

so whatever you factor in, you're in the minority.
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>>315333121
As much as I'd like to believe that Nintendo with strong third party support would dominate the industry, they have such a strong "kiddie" image that I find it hard to imagine all of the dudebros migrating over.
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>>315333121
I didn't even bother reading your autistic essay. I was just stating my opinion. Blow it out your ass, permavirgin manchild.
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>Federation Force was announced as that neat Blast Ball game at Nintendo World Championship, then the Metroid bomb dropped later on
>Animal Crossing Happy Home Ham 'n' Cheesefest could have easily been some Mii game or something
>Chibi Robo on 3DS could've been a new IP altogether rather than having Chibi Robo slapped on
>Game and Wario... well I guess Wario kind of suited the game well but it builds expectations of a WarioWare-esque title
>Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem looks like neither SMT nor Fire Emblem, if anything it resembles Persona more
>The Kirby rolling games could've easily been any other character
>Triforce Heroes wouldn't recieve nearly such a negative rep if it didn't look like ALBW and the Zelda's of old

Nintendo aren't exactly making shit games these days. The problem lies in the fact that they come up with new game ideas and then parade them around in the carcasses of old franchises. All of the above games would seem way better if not for the expectations associated with their title characters. And they've been doing this for years - Yoshi's Touch and Go for example was a good game but barely a Yoshi game except for egg throwing. If Nintendo wasn't so fucking afraid of new IP's I firmly believe the general perception of them would be very different.
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The daily "trying too hard to justify not maining Wii U" thread.

Keep repeating OPs post to yourselves. It's the holy mantra that will carry you through these tough times until whatever console, mobile, or PCOS you put your faith in ultimately kills Nintendo.

Because faith is the true path! Don't forget to threaten to suicide bomb the Nintendo HQ. Makes you look especially cool and smart.
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>>315297704
Hey hey, you're right but don't bother it's a bait thread.
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>>315333121
WiiU had some killer games

Wonderful 101
Bayo 2
Mario 3D World
Pikmin 3
MK8
Dong Freeze
Kirby Rainbow Curse
Woolly World
Xenoblade X
Splatoon

But it doesn't make it any less depressing that some franchises are probably gone for good, or relegated to shitty sequels for eternity.

Metroid, Wario (platformers and Ware), Paper Mario, F-Zero

But hell, I thought DK and Yoshi's Island were dead for a while, and they both made a stellar return. I think its important not to get too caught up in the shitty decisions that Ninty makes.
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This is what Nintendo wants to do with Paper Jam

>Let the World of Mario and Luigi meet their Paper Counterparts, focus is between the interactions between each of the characters to their paper selves
>Enemies will consist of enemies that appear on both sides to emphasize the issue of the worlds colliding
>Areas will be a mixed having segments of the M&L world and PM world scattered around to emphasize that their worlds are literally colliding

What Autistic spoiled brats want
>Every single character in both series to appear and team up in fanfiction tier match ups
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>>315333542
>If Nintendo wasn't so fucking afraid of new IP's
More like if people supported new IPs outside rare occasions, or just grew a pair about the santicity of some IPs...
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>>315333503
Thats the other issue, I did mention both the image and the lack of third parties in the original post.
But I do think that Nintendo could attract all the people who are not dudebros that are currently stuck on the other systems.
The dudebros feel like a lost cause for them not worth chasing.
They accomplished that with the 3DS. All the people who like japanese games got one and neither the image nor the third party support seems to be a problem there.

I have been with Sony for the last two generations now. I used to buy their stuff to grab some unique japanese shit. This generation it looks like they went so heavily into the dudebro territory that they might as well rename their console to xbox.
This alienated me personally. I also know plenty of people who went handheld only this gen and only play on their 3DS and the Vita, and those people definitely dont only play on those things because they are portable.

If Nintendo could somehow get the same things going on their console as they do on their handheld they could benefit from that greatly I think.

The hard part would be accomplishing that. But they should also not ignore working on their image, because things are bad.

>>315333539
Get a load of this assblasted shitposter.
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>>315333753

>meme game
>literally who
>platformers
>10 minutes long
>fuck you f-zero fans, hope you didn't want battle mode
>good
>$60 flash game
>yoshi's island with difficulty level: infant
>not even released
>meme shooter

"Killer games" in the sense that they killed the WiiU, maybe.
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>>315299082
>dozens of games will have done the open world thing better
They already have arrived. Nintendo, as usual, is hoping on the bandwagon really late.
So by the time they finish Zelda U, nothing interesting will come from the game.

I guarantee that any halfway decent review will call it an uninspired bust.
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>>315296785
Pokémon lives on, Game Freak can hurt it plenty but the PMD series is outside their jurisdiction.
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>>315334196
Go back to GameSpot Kevin Van Ord.
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>>315333860
People do support new IPs a lot of the time, but Nintendo never fuckin backs up its new IPs. Back in the day, Nintendo treated their new IPs just like they treated their legacy franchises, and it paid off. It still pays off today - Splatoon was heavily advertised (by Nintendo standards anyway) and hyped up, and it sold pretty well. Meanwhile, stuff like Dillon's Rolling Western get given a shit budget, scarce advertising, lumped in with the digital-only eshop shovelware, and then Nintendo wonder why their new IPs don't sell and resort to another Mario spinoff to cover their losses
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>>315299082
>dozens of games will have done the open world thing better
They already have arrived. Nintendo, as usual, is hoping on the bandwagon really late.
So by the time they finish Zelda U, nothing interesting will come from the game.

I guarantee that any halfway decent review will call it an uninspired bust.
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>>315333753
People need to realize that no company can pump out games for all of their franchises at all times when they have that many.

The whining from some people when it comes to that has gotten really fucking obnoxious.
People see past what they got available and all focus on the shit thats not there.

Metroid and Wario are also definitely far from dead. M&L: Paper Cut shows that Paper Mario isnt off the table either.
Metroid had a 3DS game in the works but it was cancelled. But the truth is that things dont work out all the time.
Same thing happened on the N64 but I didnt see people cry about Metroid and Nintendo being dead because of that.
The oh so precious Gamecube didnt come with Yoshi, Kirby and Dk either, and I think those games are really fucking essential for Nintendo systems.
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>>315334196
>>315299082

Oh no

Its not like Nintendo never follows mainstream things and adds their own twist on it

Seriously, Aunouma said he wanted to surprise people with Zelda U's open world
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>>315333121
>Nobody else would be able to pull this off.
This is very true.

Sony and Microsoft 1st party is ass and sells like ass.

Nintendo is the only video game hardware developer that also has significant 1st party sales.

Just a reminder, Bloodborne sold around as much as Hyrule Warriors.
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>>315334489
Go back to GameSpot Kevin Van Ord.
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>>315334651
If he wanted to surprise people why did he reveal it with the first announcement?
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>>315334571
>Yoshi
The second Yoshi game after the Super NES game was on DS. And Kirby Air Ride was fun.
I mean, you're completely right so don't think I'm disagreeing, but y'know.
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>>315334489
>They already have arrived
>dozens
Holy shit, I wish I knew what these "good" open-world games were. I'm an idort and nearly every open-world game I've played has been bad. Except Witcher 3 and Morrowind basically.
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>>315334801
Japs love to spoil their own shit like retards.
I've seen Famitsu articles just flat out showing the secret twist bosses of games.

Its like when they show the exact plot of the next "controversial" Simpsons episode a week before it airs and then expect people to be hyped about it.
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>>315303273
roll
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>>315335290
Next episode previews in anime usually show an important character getting killed or other sorts of major spoilers.

Don't know if japs are retards or they just don't give a fuck.
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>>315335290
>Japs love to spoil their own shit like retards.

>watching an old anime
>accidentally forget to turn off video when the episode I'm watching ends
>preview starts for next episode that completely spoils it

Why in the world is this a thing?
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>>315303273
I'll try it
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>>315303273
roll?
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>>315335467
>>315335505
I guess they want to hook people into watching by making them wonder "WOA HOW DOES THIS ACTUALLY HAPPEN?!" or some shit.

Its really fucking annoying though.
All this fucking promo material that got released before those new DBZ movies just showing off all the special transformations was the worst.
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>>315303273
Jesus Christ I'm scared. Roll
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>>315296785
>this bait thread lasted almost 400 posts
>OP is probably the same faggot that for almost every hour this last month has made blatant falselfag threads
I thought we had mods/janitors?
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>>315296785
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>>315336304
Gotta report the threads.
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>>315336617
>EVERY NINTENDO FRANCHISE IS DEAD JOIN MASTER RACE FAGGOTS
yeah, this is totally fine
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>>315336403
If handhelds are seperated it becomes clear that Nintendo's success is in handhelds and not home consoles. Sony's is the opposite.
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>>315299082
>>315305741
>>315305813
>>315307849
>>315299231
>>315300734
>>315325127
>>315301370
>>315306810
>>315325012
hello

don't mind me, just gonna post this right here
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>>315337598

Also, proves that Microsoft was only truly successful with the 360
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>>315337849
Yes, although hilariously they sold the least of all three consoles of that generation (thanks to the long lifespan of the PS3 mostly).
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>>315303273
roll
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>>315337891

Damn, how did I not notice that while compiling this chart.
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>>315336879
What about other threads that similarly bash other consoles/companies blatantly?

Shouldn't all threads pertaining to these topics be moderated equally?
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>>315296785
>>Star Fox is dead
>>Pikmin is dead
I wouldn't count them out just yet.

>>Yoshi's Island is dead
I hear Yoshi's Epic Yarn was okay. I have no interest in it and no intention of buying it because I'm not a fan of Yoshi, but I wouldn't call that game bad.
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>>315296785
don't forget animal crossing

this shitty amiibo ripoff bullshit is going to poison the sales of the next game, just like those horrible rabbids games did to rayman
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>>315330451
He's an insufferable faggot, but he's right.

That doesn't make him a shitposter.
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>>315339119
Pikmin being dead is straight up retarded considering Pikmin 4 has been confirmed already and Shiggy is in love with the series.

>I hear Yoshi's Epic Yarn was okay
It's actually arguably better than Yoshi's Island. Except it has several copypasta bosses, but it also has a boss rush mode with supersanic bosses that actually are more challenging than the original Yoshi's Island bosses.
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>>315339296
>but he's right.
Nope.
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>>315339349
Prove his points wrong, then.
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>>315339265
Not in Japan. Japan is nuts for HHD.

Also don't forget Amiibo Festival. At least HHD is relatively like an Animal Crossing Game.

I'm not really interested in either game though.

I really, really hope we get a home console AC that takes the Gamecube/N64D concept and expands on it.

I thought for sure that one would show up on Wii-U but then it never took off in hardware sales to justify large development resources for the project.
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8 hours and this thread hasn't gone anywhere
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>>315339462
>Japan is nuts for HHD.
If I was a fan of Animal Crossing, I would've gotten it. I like designing things. It makes sense it would do well in Japan.
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>>315339458
Read the whole post chain you lazy cunt.

He couldnt be more wrong.
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>>315339683
You mean that it hasn't been deleted? Or do you mean conversation? The conversation is pretty okay.
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>>315339462
>Japan is nuts for HHD.
i'm sure 90% of those sales are people going "sweet! new AC!" without really looking into it

when the next AC comes out people are going to remember the HHD ripoff, whether they bought into it or not. it won't be like NL where a new title drops and everyone runs out to grab it, they'll know better.
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>>315339743
>If I was a fan of Animal Crossing, I would've gotten it
If you're not a fan of Animal Crossing, I don't really think you can say what you would have done regarding it honestly.

I am a fan of the series since its inception. I passed on it because while it retains some aspects, what it changes it changes in ways that really don't satisfy me. I'd much rather keep playing New Leaf than Amiibo Festival or Happy Home Designer.
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>>315339940
Eh, I don't know.

In Japan huge amounts of women just buy any AC game, that's just how it goes. They don't care about details of them, they will buy the next one, whatever it is like.

In the west though? You might be right.
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All I see right now is half fed up ex nintendo fans agreeing and half nintendrones saying to report the thread

Really puts things into perspective
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>>315339967
When I say "fan", I mean if I was going to buy the games. I've played them, and I enjoy them a lot. But there are only a few series I call myself an actual "fan" of, because there are a few that I specifically prioritize over others. It feels wrong calling myself a fan of something I don't feel too strongly about when I'm not playing it. If Animal Crossing was a priority, I would've gotten it.

Amiibo Festival is an all right idea (Mario Party with Animal Crossing characters), but the amiibo aspect is kind of sad. To be fair, collecting things is fun, I think, so there's a charm there, but there's not really a way to create an experience for that type of thing outside of a trading card game without making it either seem incredibly cheap or actually be incredibly cheap.
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>>315339845
I lurked a bit more and you're right.
On that note, going mobile could work for nintendo, they can cater to the casual market and leave the NX for the people who want a more enganging experience from their games. But this will only work IF and only IF they do the correct marketing to the correct people.
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>You bought a Wii U
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>Fire Emblem
Maybe. If NoA censors it to hell then we won't have to deal the with the blatantly retarded fanservice that killed the series.
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>>315340127
Stop generalizing like that. There are current fans who have criticism, and there are current fans who don't care about that criticism.

>>315340527
I actually agree, although I'd rather it not happen. Slippery slope is such a lame fallacy, because it's observably possible and happens all the time. If they do expand, I hope it's an actual expansion and not them using their current development teams for mobile games.
>>315340693
That's a unique stance that I can get behind.
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>>315340451
>If Animal Crossing was a priority, I would've gotten it.
But I'm saying that, AC is a priority for me, I've bought New Leaf for example as well as the previous iterations.

I'm skipping these two because they're aimed at people who enjoy other parts of AC.

I like designing homes, it's one of the best parts.

BUT, the way they've chosen to implement it is really unfortunate. There is no real gameplay because there is no way to mess up the design and have the villagers feel bad. That kind of risk would make it interesting to me. As well as a multitude of other little details.

I'm a little worried about the future of the franchise but I'm not saying it's dead yet. Just hibernating.
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>>315339940
A similar thing happened with Sticker Star

Now very few people want to even touch Paper Jam, even though it's a fucking Mario & Luigi RPG, not a Paper Mario.
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>>315296785
>If it's not Primeshit, it's dead
Holy shit fuck off, Metroid is fine.
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>>315339119
>I hear Yoshi's Epic Yarn was okay.
yeah funny how a mediocre title can generate a buzz when it's the only notable title to come out for months

fun tip, nintendo hates third parties because they cut into their software sales
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>>315303273
GRRR.
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>>315340951
>One major title in 8 years
>Said title was least well received in the series and barely moved half a million units
>"fine"
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>>315340779
I understand. I just like designing in general, regardless of the design as a game you can win. I kind of want to know how many different decorations there are in the game compared to a full game. It seems that most of the "poorest" Nintendo games are seen as such because of lack of compelling features, not because of outright annoyances. It'd be neat to see if you could have different careers in the next game, what with the mayor and now this. Although that would be a bit weird, since it would likely be decided early on and would change how you handle the game completely. Maybe that could make it a fun game community--real life community, I mean.
I don't think you have to worry, though. These types of things happen with studios with a lot of different projects.
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>>315303273
later guys
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>>315341390
You're mixing up your hot opinions that are totally understandable.
One GOOD title in 8 years, and the LAST title poorly received. Other M only came out 5 years ago.
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>>315341426
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
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>>315340951
traditional Metroid is just as dead as rail shooters for Starfox

>Metroid is fine
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>>315303273
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