Madoka

To the Stars done yet?

>>2325937
Not even half way, but the next chapter will be out soon though.

>>2325952
So does that author have arcs that you can walk away from or is it all one continuous story?

>>2325952
I stopped reading before Rebellion even came out, at this rate Half Life 3 will be out before this finishes.

>>2326634
One continuous story with 2 one-chapter interludes so far (featuring side characters and set in the past).

>>2326634
Each volume is roughly an arc, if I understood what you're asking.

Madoka rated number 3 anime behind Tiger and Bunny and Tiger and Bunny The Rising in NHK national poll. Ranked number 1 among males.

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What a mannerly lady.

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>>2328738
Maitake should draw lewds

>>2328768
She(?) really should.

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>>2328768
Maitake can be pretty lewd.

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Oh, there is a new thread.

>>2323135
Is Mami the only person in the show who has directly touched Homu's gem?

>Mami took Homura's first touch
>Madoka comes close to touching Homura, but is separated by a grief seed.

What did they mean by this?

>>2329330
>implying Madoka never fondled Moemura's soul gem during "training"

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>>2329499

>>2329330
There's nothing sexual about it, or else holding your soul gem would be shlicking.

>>2329677
Sure. But there's something deliciously intimate about directly touching someone else's soul.

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>>2329677
depends on how you touch it

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>>2329699

>>2329330
She was unconcious at the time and likely unwanted so IT WAS RAPE.

>>2329330
Incubators probably did when they stuck it in the Isolation field.

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Does anyone have the English scans for second volume of Oriko Sadness Prayer?

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>>2331946
Yes. It'll take me a day to upload them though.

>>2332029
Much appreciated! Did Yen Press ever licensed Wraith Arc?

>>2332079
One day they will. They're painfully slow. They will likely release it when they do the rest of Tart, Tamura, and Oriko.

>Anti-Materials never ever

>>2329717
It's Mami so are you really surprised?

>>2332079
Is that confirmed? Not worth redoing the tumblr chapters if it's/will be scheduled.
>Anti-Materials never ever
Would you believe if I told you that I took a recess on that because Sayaka appeared in the current chapter in queue?

>>2332103
Not confirmed. It's likely a year or two away. Tamura, Tart et al were all done years after their release. No reason to believe they'll be released any time soon, just saying they are likely to be released at some point in the future.

>>2331946
>>2332029
not the same anon but any idea if it has been uploaded, I am curious.

>>2333249
Sorry anon, real busy at home and work. Will drop it as soon as I can.

https://w0s.jp/madoka-magica/book/kiramagi_28

This guy has a collection of summaries from all the Kirara interviews. Issue 28 is the interview with Shinbo where he states Wraith Arc is the events between the series and Rebellion.

>>2331946
>>2333249
>There are people who will read a manga about two lesbians trying to kill Madoka Kaname
Orikofags get in here!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B58pELJdqfutLVA5RGJlZmpHSWs

Still uploading as I type this. Will have it up for 24 hours.

Who has the bigger rack? Oriko or Mami?

>>2333810
The final image set should have 159 images. Currently at 86.

>>2333770
That's about the closest canon confirmation we'll get.

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>>2333810
Thanks nee-chan!

Everyone gets an upgrade in Oriko Magica, even heretically Homura.

>>2333770
Oh that's a neat site. Anything of interest?

>>2333932
It's odd, my preference for boobs is head-sized, but I'm always unsettled when Homura is larger than washboard.

>>2333933
There's a scene by scene, second by second break of the differences between the tv, bluray, and movie version of the series and the theatrical and bluray versions of Rebellion. It's apparently based off an official breakdown presented at a Shaft event at Comiket and a group project the blogger is apart of. It's a good place to find updates as the blogger tends to post summaries of interviews and Madoka events amd any Madoka stuff they see around town.

Their Twitter is @SaekiTominaga.

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>>2333810

>>2333951
>filename
I guess "sisfisting" would have other implications.

>>2333961
Explain further.

>>2334071
It's what Yuna does to Togo in the bedroom.

>>2334716
>Autistic lesbian punches crippled girlfriend trying do yard work
Episode 12, amirite?

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>>2334716

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>>2334716
>>2334718
>>2334770
>(You)(You)(You)

>>>/out/

https://m.imgur.com/a/lAqVb

Redditshitters bring us more Maitake.

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I was going through my stuff today and I found a very old Madoka/Homura fanfic I wrote and completely forgot about. It's like a memory dredged up from a landfill.

>>2335207
Post the best sentence.

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New Maitake doujin, courtesy of the Anon that scanned it last thread. Thanks again.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/ochikano
https://neozeed.net/translation-new.htm
This one is a madohomu take on koufuku graffiti.

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>>2336438
>As Homura bent down to retrieve the errant piece of underwear, she had obviously forgotten about the tiny student in the fishbowl right below her ass.

It was size-change fetish

>>2336660
Maitake keeps clamjamming Madoka

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>>2336660
lewd

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>>2336675
I guess the way to a magical girl's heart is through her stomach, too.
For some reason, I keep reading it with the voices of Cristina Vee and Christine Marie Cabanos, even though I originally watched the show in Japanese. I bet Cristina Vee would voice a lewd if someone asked her to.

>>2336660
Maitake's take on Homura vs Sayaka always leaves my sides in orbit.

>>2336682
I do the same. I think Saito can pull off Maitake's Homura, but Aoi has this pure maiden 2.5d waifu image that makes it hard to put her voice in.

>lewd
I doubt it's as career ending in the US as it is in Japan. Cabanos is already a few steps away with sketchy Neptunia dialogue. I'm sure they'd do a doujinshi reading if they could get away with it.

>>2336660
Maitake is a fucking god at this shit.

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>>2336660
You're welcome. I'm glad someone can translate them now, so thank you for that. This one had me laffin.

>>2336734
Madoka's innocent maiden voice is what makes lewd Madoka so great

>>2336737
Maitake is love.

>>2336734
I know for a fact some of the Madoka dub VAs have read lewd stuff for fun at 18+ panels at cons. Mami's dub VA was in some hentai (I' fairly sure in the infamous "cluck like a chicken" hentai as the girl who doesn't cluck like a chicken. Either way it was some dumb hentai with Dan Green as the lead).

>>2336760
I feel like that it's rather unlikely there really is anything innocent about Madoka at this point.

>>2337527
If becoming the LoC didn't beat the innocence out of her voice, it's gonna take some A-10 level shit to do so, sis.

>>2338185
My point is that the innocence is a ruse. She's going the sound the same as she does now as when she's giving Homura permission to cum after letting her edge for an hour.

>>2338191
Madoka is a generous god. She'll pleasure Homura unconditionally until she passes out from repeated orgasms, all the while telling Homura how much she loves her in that very same voice.

>>2338185
Madoka IS the A-10 level goddess.

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This thing was delayed.

>>2338654
That gives me more time to register t b h. A friend of mine already got me set up with a Japanese iTunes account. Enough blogging though, I don't know why some people are freaking out about this. Clearly the game exists and a 2 month delay isn't screaming vaporware.

>>2338337
Not when Homu tore her apart she ain't.

Kinky Domadoka only comes after apotheosis. When she's the wibbly pre-meguca or the caged bird of the Devil, she's more like Do-Mdoka.

>>2337525
Pretty sure she actually was the one clucking. Made all the more ironic with Dan Green because she's one of Mokuba's voice actors.

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I want to find the universe where this happened in episode 11.

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The Megucae homurae is a the perfect hunter. Keen senses, sharp intellect, and a fatal bite make this creature a force to be reckoned with. As a solitary predator, it has a largely asocial temperament, which may go as far as to inviting hostilities with other members of genus Megucae, but most particularly with other Megucae homurae. The exception to this, however, is the Megucae madocae, with which the Megucae homurae shares a fascinating symbiosis.

All extant species of all-female genus Megucae frequently cross-reproduce, but the Megucae homurae is unique in that it will exclusively mate with a single Megucae madocae for life. This occurs due to the Megucae madocae secreting a unique pheromone specifically to attract Megucae homurae, which disarms the Megucae homurae, allowing the Megucae madocae to conduct courtship. After this occurs, the Megucae homurae will become extremely protective of its mate. It maintains its solitary hunting habits to provide food for the couple, however, the Megucae madocae will frequently tag along to aid in the hunt of its own will.

A unusual exception is the newly discovered subspecies. Meducae homurae diabolus, which has some degree of immunity over the Meducae madocae's pheromones. While it still exhibits protective behavior, it will never engage to mate, instead only watching from afar, deliberately concealing itself. Such behavior is not well understood.

Sorry for the shitpost.

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>>2339573
Have another.

>>2339573
I liked it

>>2339575
And now for the voiced version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrgxHDoe8gA

>>2338680
>Clearly the game exists and a 2 month delay isn't screaming vaporware.

You know that seems to be a thing with Madoka, that is twice now that a delay of some sort has been involved in the production.

You know what, you are right. Two months isn't much time to wait, I am only going to guess that otaku are demanding product immediately, which says more about the culture than it does about the mobla.

https://m.imgur.com/r/MadokaMagica/DWp8L

MOAR MAITAKE

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I don't ship them but I really like the Kyouko-Homura friendship dynamic that tends to crop up. Maitake tends to get it right.

Like, Homura sees Kyouko as a reliable ally, and Kyouko doesn't seem to see Homura's creepiness the way the others do. In most incarnations they seem to get along okay. There's something weirdly reassuring about that, when everyone else tends to shift almost immediately toward being a bitch toward her.

>>2340904
I feel the same way.

>>2340904
Kyouko x Homuro Brotp.

Like Sayaka and Madoka really need to get their shit together to even try to challenge the greatest friendship to sail the PMMM seas.

>>2340920
Homura*

fuck.

>>2340904
Even if Kyouko doesn't know why Homura acts the way she does, she recognizes it as the same kind of "seen some real shit" experiences she's had. I enjoyed their Battle Pentagram scene.

>>2340920
BrOTP thread? BOTP thread.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ohf0n6ymcso

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What a day

https://m.imgur.com/a/AkJd8

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>>2340925
I mean, they won't be together romantically or sexually, but Kyouko IS Homura's only friend that isn't Madoka.

>>2341022
I don't know if I would call it a friendship. More a co-belligerence. Neither side really seems to be any more than allies of convenience. Homura's only friends for most of her loops were Madoka and Mami, at least before she became so numb she stopped caring about anyone who wasn't Madoka.

>>2341027
After the show, though, Homura wouldn't have had any reason to be cold toward the others anymore. I think under those conditions, she'd at least be able to get along with Kyouko better. They'd both have lost someone they cared about, too.

Mami would still be an awkward relationship, though, I think.

>>2341027
I don't think you know what belligerence means. As it would better describe Homura's relationship with Sayaka.

Kyouko seems to be the one magical girl that Homura seems to still respect and though Kyouko never has enough information, she's the one that seems to best understand Homura's actions and is generally the most concerned about her of everyone short of Madoka.

>>2341030
Co-belligerence. Two people who wouldn't normally get along working together against a common foe. Like the US and USSR in WWII.

>>2341027
Homura mourns and shows grief at the sight of Kyouko's death. Kyouko does the same for Homura's witchification. They don't have a normal relationship, but it's definitely a shounen tough guy (female) duo relationship. Madoka and Sayaka are the only ones who have an actual "normal" friendship that doesnt have romantic undertones.

>>2341031
That doesn't describe Homura and Kyouko at all. Even in Rebellion, Kyouko says she likes the cold Homura.

>>2341035
That's because those two were friends long before QB turned up and everything began to go downhill faster than a falling elevator.

>>2341038
And? I never disputes that.

>>2341022
Hence why I said Brotp and not OTP. KyouHomu is a top tier friendship, not a romance.

>>2341053
I have to ask when that happened, because for the first few dozen cycles Homura never met Kyouko, and by the time she did she wasn't exactly in a good mental state thanks to seeing everyone she cared for dying a dozen or more times.

>>2341056
>first few dozen cycles Homura never met Kyouko,

We have no idea when she met Kyouko. We do know that they're both written to be on the cynical scale and that Kyouko understands Homura's mission to protect the thing she loves. We see their interaction in the PSP game, Battle Pentagram, the spinoffs, final timeline, Rebellion. They have great interaction. It's like any number of manly man shounen characters who annoy each other but have respect for one wnothers abilities.

>>2341065
cont.

>the time she did she wasn't exactly in a good mental state thanks to seeing everyone she cared for dying a dozen or more times.

Did you even see episode 10? Sayaka accuses her of working with kyouko even before things went to complete shit.

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I wonder if she says the same thing about Homura in bed.

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>>2343025
Clearly she was just casually bringing up her sex life to Iroha.

>>2329677
It only feels lewd when someone ELSE touches it. Dubs of naiveté

>>2343038
Am I alone in finding the idea of lewding any of the Megucas extremely distasteful? I find the notion of anyone masturbating to them really disturbing. About all I can handle is a sweet kiss. That's all they need, and all we need to see.

>>2343227
Yes, you are. I'm not satisfied unless it contains NTR. Megucas are made for suffering, not happiness.

>>2343227
>>2343228
You're both wrong. Lewd and loving lovemaking with each other is the only way to be for megacus.

>>2343227
>That's all they need, and all we need to see.
That's all we need to see in an official work. At that point, all love making becomes implicit.

>>2343228
Hitomi pls.

>>2343230
This.

>>2343227
There is nothing wrong with Madoka and Homura rubbing their naked bodies together, fingering deep inside each other, and professing how much they love each other between moans of pleasure.

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>>2343227
My wish is to see them older much older. Like the time frame for Nanoha and Fate.
In those years Homura has been stalking Madoka for years and she memorized everything there is, was and will be of Madoka. Later on when her madness reaches boiling points she abuses her power in all kinds of cute subtext and possible cuddle scenarios.
I want for Homura to drown in her depravity so that Madoka can kill her with a luminous later.

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>>2343331
Why can't we just have some nice, wholesome, pet-play instead of this degeneracy?

>>2343227
I would've been like that six years ago, but time corrupts.

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Crap, I forgot how perfect this couple is since the franchise has been dead for almost half a decade.

>>2343394
Wraith Arc was like 5 months ago.

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>>2343399
It was extremely shit and I hope to god any future project doesn't reference it.

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>>2343400
While the overall content was pretty shit, it gave us Wraithdoka which wasn't too bad.

Also I liked Kyouko and Hitomi having a chat about Sayaka. That can stay.

>>2343400
Wraiths are playing a major role next project and we might get some flashbacks. It's much easier to write something new that involves them rather than forcing something to fit within two works, so I wouldn't worry.

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>>2343404
It ruined almost all of Madoka's character by making her wish so shit and making it look like she just didn't care. It also has retarded claims about Homura's powers that can fuck off forever.

You know a manga is shit when I don't want it to be canon and it actually canonizes MadoHomu.

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>>2343410
MadoHomu didn't need any help

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>>2343416
It was the first instance of Madoka showing lust for Homura in a sexual or intimate way in an official work and all it did in the end was make Madoka's wish look worse. Homura didn't deserve the shit she got in that manga at all. Fuck that manga.

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>>2343420
I felt like they were trying to hint that maybe Madoka's world wasn't that great and there was room for improvement, but they went overboard and made Madoka's wish come off as completely impotent.

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>>2343425
Everyone knew Madoka's wish was imperfect from the end of the TV series. Instead it's not only way worse and way more dangerous, but it also is autonomously directed to torment Homura as much as possible, which is the very last thing Madoka would ever want.

It makes Rebellion's end less ambiguous and more "oh thank god, Homura fixed Madoka's mistake!"

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>>2343435
No I agree. Madoka's wish isn't just impotent, it's ridiculously cruel. I believed any future work was going to have to take a stance on Rebellion, but Madoka's new universe isn't even worth defending at this point if WA is canon.

>"oh thank god, Homura fixed Madoka's mistake!"
>Implying this wasn't my reaction

>>2343435
>Everyone knew Madoka's wish was imperfect from the end of the TV series
There are a lot of fags that to still day bitch about
>muh perfect ending

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>>2343451
>Write manga to make things clear as day
>Print it in your Japan only bi-monthly magazine that only hardcore fans read
>Retards who need it scream non-canon whenever brought up
>Story such a train wreck hardcore fans wish it was non-canon
It really seems to have missed that mark ot set out for.

I really did like the art though. It's a shame it wasn't a better story.

>>2343457
I agree. It's a damn shame Majuuka was stuck in such a shit manga, at least with the other girls you can pretend WA doesn't exist so that their characters remain intact.

>>2343400
So what is Wraith Arc and why is it shit?

>>2343410
Her first wish was to save a cat from being run over. While that is a clear sign of her feelings, it is also kind of a shit wish if you look at it a certain way.

>>2343512
>So what is Wraith Arc and why is it shit?
A series run in Kirara Magica. It's shit because:
>inconsistent characterization
>universe singling out Homura to screw her over
>plot holes galore
>ignores the thematic dichotomy of the series and Rebellion
>makes Madoka look like a colossal fuckup who did nothing right

>>2343512
To add to >>2343528, Wraith Arc was heavily influenced by a rejected sequel script penned by Hiramatsu that focused on the Wraiths learning of the Law of Cycles and targeting Homura to gain its power. They altered it so that it would fill in the world and segue into Rebellion, but like with most prequels/interquels, it doesn't do a great job. It was story boarded by Shinbo and Hiramatsu, while the Wraiths were done by InuCurry.

Reasons to read it
>Wraiths are going to be a big part of the new project so you should know what they do
>Wraithdoka
>We get a kiss
>Hanokage's art

Additional reasons you'll hate it
>Hiramatsu doesn't understand this series and it's clear TDS was a fluke
>Last segment is a rage inducing train wreck
>It tries to do way to much and in the end creates a lot of continuity problems

It's possible to enjoy it if you try not to think hard about it, but it pales in comparison to the animated canon and by linking it to main story, the quality can't be ignored..

>>2343692
>Wraith Arc was heavily influenced by a rejected sequel script penned by Hiramatsu

Daily reminder that Hiramatsu is the genius who gave us evil nuts and meguca cloning.

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So finally got around to watching Rebellion and I'm pretty satisfied with the KyouSaya in it.

>>2344028
My issue is that they never took the time to establish anything between them. There was a whole episode devoted to just how Homura came to love Madoka, but those two it kind of feels like it came out of the blue somewhat.

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Oh and does anyone know when there's a next movie or season coming out?

It's been like a year and a half since the concept movie for the new project came out. Hope we get more news soon.

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>>2344029
Understandable but I've been shipping these two since the episode where Kyoukp sacrificed herself. Also I think they have a fum dynamic. And I doubt they're even together, it's just a cute heartfelt moment.

>>2344029
Agreed. It felt like pandering to the fans without any explanation or backstory.

It takes a long time to make a movie. I don't expect to see anything until 2019 or 2020. Given the cliffhanger (pun intended) that Rebellion ended on and the war of gods and devils promised by it, they may well want to take the time and get it right.

>>2344031
Oh that's a pretty long time. Hasn't there been any official announcement yet for when it may come out?

>>2344032
Oh so many typos. Forgive me I'm on my phone

>>2344032
I'm not saying it's a bad pairing, I just wish they'd taken the time to make it feel natural. We clearly see exactly where Homura is coming from, but it's all too abrupt with those two.

>>2344041
Well it's not exactly a pairing with a lot of focus I agree. But I like what I saw. I hope they get more focus but it seems it will be all Madoka and Homura from now on.

>>2344031
Last Kirara update was pretty much "the ideas are finally coming together, please wait a little longer" which is significantly better than "we have no clue what we're going to do next". I'd just sit back and enjoy the porn until then.

>>2344046
Do not lewd the Megucas. Megucas are for cute moments, hand holding and maybe a peck on the cheek.

>>2344041
Well, it was pretty one sided on Kyoko's end in the TV series, since Sayaka was already off the emotional deep end by then, and it didn't help that Kyoko was more of a side character. Rebellion was all Homura, so there wasn't really much room to display the complete progression.

>>2344029
>>2344034
Sayaka and Kyouko's relationship was a big part of the series. No, it wasn't a romantic one (at that point), but it existed.
In the wraith timeline, we see Kyouko upset at Sayaka's death because they were just becoming close.

KyouSaya didn't become popular for nothing

>>2344048
All of these things are go hand in hand with the most diabetes-inducing vanilla sex, sprinkled with heartfelt declarations of love.

>>2344046

Rather than enjoying the porn, I should haul ass and finish my fic before the new project comes out and completely invalidates it.

>>2344043
>yfw Homura chides Kyouko for her taste in women
>you deserve better than that blowhard

>>2344070
While I think it'd be hilarious, Homura is one of the biggest KyouSayafags around.

>>2344079
She'd only be teasing. She's the devil now. It's reverse psychology.

>>2344079
And it's pretty clear why - the two of them keep each other in check. Kyouko smacks Sayaka out of being a semi-suicidal justicefag, Sayaka melts Kyouko to the point she's not actively antagonistic. Even though modern Homura can deal with Kyouko, she probably had a lot of troubles getting Kyouko on her side in early loops.

>>2344079
Homura probably sees in them what she can never have with Madoka.

>>2343692
>>Hiramatsu doesn't understand this series and it's clear TDS was a fluke
Bullshit, why its his fault that Magica Quartet expanded on his script?
Besides, unlike the manga adaption of the TV series and TDS we dont know which ideas comes from him and which comes from Hanokage and Magica Quartet.

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>>2344088
It helps that Kyouko's the one she understands the best of them all, in that she understands loss.

That's why i broship them.

She's been trying to wingman for Kyouko.

>>2344090
Also while Homura never gets on with Sayaka, Kyouko can act as a bridge and an intermediary and keep them from squabbling.

>>2344091
I'm pretty sure Homura and Sayaka are at some weird intermediate step between squabbling and mortal enemies. Kyoko and Sayaka squabble in that cute old married couple way.

>>2344092
By the looks of the end of Rebellion, they are mortal enemies. Sakaya has no chance against Devil Homura though.

>>2344094
Anon is just thinking of Maitake too much. I like that old divorced couple vibe she gives them, but I agree, they're more on mortal enemy terms. At least, Sayaka feels that way.

Homura seems for all intents and purposes to consider herself as having done Sayaka a big favor by giving her life back so she can go suck face with Kyouko.

>>2344091
Homura doesn't do squabbling; it's not worth her time.

>>2344088
>Watches red head die over honto baka and never gets to have her feelings understood

More like Homura sees Kyouko's relationship as she sees her own with Madoka.

>>2344091
Madoka and Kyouko ar

>>2344106
>ignore that unfinished line

>>2344106
So by shipping them in her dream world she's unconsciously wishing for how things would turn out with her and Madoka?

>>2344094
>>2344097
>we will never get a Aku trolling Samurai Jack dynamic
Sometimes it does bum me out that there is little to no (intentional) comedy in this series.

>>2344112
That adds a pretty interesting dynamic to the group's overall relationship that probably won't ever be properly explored.

>>2344113
Can the Butcher understand comedy? I think all he knows is suffering and misery.

>>2344112
She ships them after seeing everything that happened, not before. I wouldn't say her thoughts on MadoHomu have bearing on her thoughts on KyouSaya (because they're significantly different types of ships), but she saw what Kyouko was willing to do for her so she understands what Kyouko wants. Especially after that whole 'grab on to the thing you love and never let go' speech.

>>2344117
Have you ever seen his post Madoka works?

>>2344117
Expelled from Paradise, Kamen Rider Gaim. and Thunderbolt Fantasy are all things he wrote all the way through. Gaim can kind of be hand waved because it was a kids show, but he still gladly put his name on a fucking fruit samurai tokutetsu. Thunderbolt Fantasy legit has some intentional knee slappers.

>>2344113
It would be out of character for Homura's no-nonsense personality. Just look at how she breaks up Sayaka and Kyoko's fighting in episode 5, she just knocks Sayaka the fuck out and is done with it. She'd do the same thing if Sayaka threatened actual violence, but if it were purely verbal, she would simply ignore it and go about her business.

>>2344164
Homura's not above catty banter and shit-eating grinnery now that she's a devil. She had no reason to taunt Sayaka at the end of Rebellion.

>>2344164
Oh I agree completely, I'd be out of place. Which is why I said it bums me out that there no comedy.

>>2344168
She had no reason to break Mami's tea cup or deny Kyouko's apple. Sayaka being Sayaka was enough of a reason though. That said, the parameters she set were basically 'don't fuck with me or Madoka and we'll be good'.

>>2344168
>>2344188
Her reason is simple enough, she's the devil. Homura herself defines this. And as such, she must play the part of the devil, one who commits evil and suffers for their sins. Of course, she can't do any real harm because that would disrupt Madoka's perfect world, so she settles for being kind of a bitch to affirm to herself that she is truly evil.

>>2343227
>Am I alone in finding the idea of lewding any of the Megucas extremely distasteful?

No, it's something that I will admit is a bit off-putting with the tone of the official media (save the Devil, whom is defined by her relations to the rest of the cast and Madoka in particular). I get it, doujin artists will sexually anything but Megucas has almost no real context for it.
Personally, the only real hate stance hatred that I have for the lewding comes with the Mami/Nagisa ship, it just feels wrong on so many levels that it incites fury.

>>2344293
One's 15, the other's 10, and Rebellion cast it as almost a big sister/little sister dynamic anyway (which fits, as Mami is basically a mother/mentor/senpai figure anyway).

>>2344294
>big sister/little sister
Which I am fine with, since it was pretty clear that was the dynamic that they were going for. My issue is with anything that put the two in a sexual context, which there is a lot of fan art of.

>>2344295
I think the art of Mami and Charlotte (Nagisa's witch form) is far more disturbing. It's like shipping someone with their murderer.

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>>2344294
I agree that it's an uncomfortable pairing to do anything lewd with, but have we considered very tall older Nagisa?

>>2344296
Oh, honey. Before Nagisa existed this was the only "viable" ship we had for Mami which didn't interfere with the main two.

>>2344295
It's not really surprising though. The two big relationships push how important romance is going to be in the end and Mami has always been the spare girl of the quintette. Humans fucking love patterns so Mami ending up with Nagisa romanticly works out rather well for the monkey brains of us who aren't turned off by the age difference.
>>2344296
You say that like enemies fucking isn't a rather popular desire in fandoms and also one that has been fed by shit like Batman.
>>2344297
Wasn't there that office lady as well?

>>2344299
I think only Ayane did anything with that.

>>2344299
Yes, but we've never seen the Joker biting off Batman's head. It would be like shipping Ian Brady and Keith Bennett.

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>>2344293
> it just feels wrong on so many levels that it incites fury.
How can someone be this wrong?

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>>2344305

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>>2344307

>>2344303
I kinda want to see that, actually. The Joker would be dressed up as Ozzy Osborne for Halloween. It would be hilarious.

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Sayaka is just asking for it

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What would Madoka and Homura's first time be like? Would they take it slow and cry a lot because of pent up emotions or go at it for hours and say "I love you" at least 1000 times?

>>2345036
yes.

>>2345041
Yeah I think Madoka would moan "yes" quite a bit.

>>2345036
both

>>2345046
I'm pretty sure Madoka would be more of a praising sort and Homura would be pretty much unintelligible unless made to be coherent.

Though that might just be my love for domdoka talking.

>>2345036
In all honesty it would be like most first times. Bloody awkward. Of course that entirely depends on whether it's two human beings, or two divine entities which is what they are by the end of Rebellion. Because with divine entitles, they'd probably just merge their souls or something similar, which is far more intimate than any business of the flesh.

>>2344117
The Black Lagoon light novels, Django, Thunderbolt Fantasy, and Kamen Rider Gaim all have some really funny stuff in them.

>>2345057
That sounds retarded. It also severely lacks in hand-holding and pet-play.

>>2345070
Most first time sexual experiences are.

>>2345066
His Twitter is also pretty silly.

>>2345036
Well, to set up the context, they probably would have been dating for a while, and Madoka would have been dropping hints for a some time, and although Homura would pick up on them, she'd get flustered, so Madoka would back down instead of pushing the issue, because she doesn't want to rush Homura into it. Eventually Madoka just asks Homura outright, and although Homura still gets flustered, she can't say no to Madoka. Homura is pretty good with her hands (she's had plenty of practice crafting her pipe bombs), and Madoka would be very encouraging, so that much would go well. As for Homura being on the receiving end, it could go one of two ways: either she's really sensitive to Madoka and and climaxes repeatedly, or her PTSD has completely killed her sex drive and she doesn't get off at all, which disappoints Madoka more than it does Homura.

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>>2345198
She's never really shown any signs of having PTSD, as far as I can tell.

Unrelated: So, we all know that Madoka prefers glasses Homo, but truly, which glasses Homo is best? Braids, Twintails, or loose?

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>>2345333
Ponytail.

So, I've been working my way through all the various English fandubs of Madoka, and I have to ask why is it that the only good one is the one that gave Homura the voice of Sean Connery?

>>2345333
>She's never really shown any signs of having PTSD
Did we watch the same show? Rebellion even more so was utterly blatant about this.
>Recurrent, unwanted distressing memories of the traumatic event
>Severe emotional distress or physical reactions to something that reminds you of the traumatic event
>Negative thoughts about yourself, other people or the world
>Hopelessness about the future
>Difficulty maintaining close relationships
>Feeling detached from family and friends
>Difficulty experiencing positive emotions
>Feeling emotionally numb
>Always being on guard for danger
>Overwhelming guilt or shame
Compounded by depression with suicidal thoughts.

>>2345515
Not that nee-san, but I'd argue this. Those symptom's greatly overlap with the symptoms of an extreme existential crisis. Rebellion is largely about this in regard to the Nihilistic tones and the entire broken nut cracker with no purpose thing. While Homura is still tortured by guilt, her greatest regret of not saving Madoka has been corrected and her existential crisis is resolved. Not that I disagree that Homura likely some form of PTSD

>>2345635
The existential crisis is resolved, but her platter of other psychological issues are not; the last few scenes of Rebellion clearly show that's she's far from okay. Existential crises can lead to or be associated with major depressive disorder, which is frequently comorbid with PTSD, as is the case with Homura. Even in the TV series, she shows shades of this

>>2345699
Not only that, her whole utopia is resting on a knife edge, just waiting for the axe to drop. And Homura can only watch. She's never going to be able to get what she really wants, which is to get close to Madoka. Madoka probably only thinks of her as that crazy classmate who acted really strangely at her on her first day. So it's double torture for Homura. Sure, Madoka might have been 'saved', but the costs were high and it's not a long-term solution. And Homura is still alone and deeply unhappy.

>>2345699
>but her platter of other psychological issues are not; the last few scenes of Rebellion clearly show that's she's far from okay.
Her being miserable is irrelevant. There are scenes that remind us throughout every story that as tough as she talks, she's still just a scared 14 year old girl, but consider the way the Clara dolls are defined. Dolls 1-14 are in submission to 15. Homura's love subjugates her other feelings and it's through her resolution of her crisis that she's able to push those feelings back.

What I'm saying and back to the point is Homura is likely capable of getting wet and fucking Madoka if Madoka is assertive enough and it can't be assumed Homura's drive is shot.

>>2345727
Agreed, but the initial point I believe I was responding to is that Homura is capable of fucking if the opportunity arises, even if it's guaranteed to be incredibly awkward.

>>2345727
>And Homura is still alone and deeply unhappy.
She is alone at the end of Rebellion but she seems happy and smiling, I think the meaning of that scene is that: yes, she can't be with the person she loves (even though she is next to her) and her utopia almost felt apart in the first 5 minutes but she saved Madoka and that's enough for her, at least for now (granted, if your happiness depends too much on someone that is a red flag and bound to fail)

>>2345738
Hence why I simply presented it an alternative possibility, and regardless of whether or not it is the case, I did say Homura would not reject a point blank request from Madoka to have sex.

>>2345742
At the end of Rebellion she's allowing her own familiars to bully the shit out of herself and lets herself fall out of a chair and off a cliff. She's about as happy as Sayaka was after she found out she was a litch.

>>2345742
It look far too much like a hollow smile to me. That one that is pretending you're happy when you're actually not.

>>2345742
Did you miss her thousand yard stare, the fact that the hill that symbolizes her heart is cut in half, and that she falls off into the abyss where the missing half should be? She doesn't smile because she's happy; she smiles because she finally won, even though the cost of that victory was her very own happiness. But she accepts that burden because Madoka's happiness is more important than her own.

>>2345748
Her smile definitely smacks of "this is fine.jpg"

>>2345745
I agree with the familiars and her guilt for what she did, she thinks she did the right thing but she doesn't believe it (a contradiction as a real person), the cliff thingy I thought it was a cinematic symbolism: she falling from grace or something between those lines.
>>2345746
>>2345748
I saw the series and rebellion, I don't get the hill thing, is it a beginnings/eternal thing?
I thought her smile was a: Im not happy but Im happy because I think Madoka is happy (that's not how happiness works or at least ever lasting happiness), something like >>2345750 said

I think I should rewatch Rebellion, Im getting rusty with the details

>>2345754
I rewatch Rebellion every time a decent thread pops up on /a/ or here, so I have the best possible base to base my arguments. It's rare getting a legitimate discussion, but Madoka seems to inspire them more than any other Anime I watch.

>>2345756
The visuals of that movie alone offer so much to discuss, it's not surprising.

>>2345759
I've seen legitimate academic essays written on the use of symbolism in that movie and what it says about various religious and philosophical topics, and if that doesn't say something nothing will.

>>2345756
I think I may talked to you a few days ago
Anyways, I believe that happens because the series never judges a character as good or bad, is just characters doing things and affecting their surroundings, also I believe characters are mirrors of each other (Sayaka's optimism/Kyoko's nihilism, Madoka's warmness/Homura's coldness, etc) so there's a lot of room to discuss.

it kills me that Lucky Star is in this hell where it will never be discussed properly because its a forgotten series and whenever there's a thread its a meta shitpost thread with creepy fanart and lonely kagami sorry, it was something I needed to get out.

>>2345754
It originated from the OP of Beginnings/Eternal, where Madoka and Homura are sitting on two chairs pushed against each other, and Madoka initiates a cheek rub. This is called "Luminous" based on the title of the OP song.

In Rebellion, there's a scene where the setting is the same, but Madoka falls off the chair and splats on the ground in a puddle of pink goop, and Homura, unable to reach her, kneels the ground and pounds her fist in frustration, with a sudden cut where she is crushed by her own fist, while being stared down by familiar versions of herself.

The symbolism present is the relationship between Madoka and Homura; they lean on each other for support. Homura failed to support Madoka which led to Madoka's wish and disappearance, and Homura blames herself and cannot forgive the fact that she let it happen. And in the ending, when Homura leans in the chair, she should be leaning on Madoka, but since she's cut Madoka out of her life, there's nothing to support her, and she falls.

>>2345362
You mean this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-FcS0EEnYY

Also I note that all the english fan versions are pretty on the nose with Homura being straight-up gay. I'm not sure if that reflects what the fans want to happen, or if they just can't stand subtext being all they got officially. Not that I mind either way.

>>2345764
I thought the whole Luminous thing was a meme/yuri-bait though I understood the Rebellion Madoka-puddle scene, no wonder I only understood the obvious things in the epilogue
Nice analysis, thanks.

>>2345782
Madoka is surprisingly deep and layered if you look at it the right way.

>>2345742
This is what you're supposed to get out of it. Much like Urobuchi's husbando Chirico, Homura denied compainship and wrecked the shit out of god herself. Anyone who thinks things are 'just' going to fall apart and there's nothing Homura can donabout it are missing the entire point of that ending. As long as Homura continues to believe in her struggle (which clearly stated multiple times she does even if she knows it's wrong), she will overcome because there is no other option in regards to Rebellion.

That does not in anyway distegard that she is miserable, but she is as happier than she's been in a long time.

>>2345800
>Anyone who thinks things are 'just' going to fall apart and there's nothing Homura can donabout it are missing the entire point of that ending
That's not what's being argued. Everyone knows that Homura's greatest strength is her resolve, that she will sacrifice anything she has to realize her goal, including her own happiness, which she does. Homura accepts this sacrifice, because she has finally won. Her state at the end of Rebellion is not that of happiness, it is being content to suffer for all eternity to preserve her victory.

>>2345362
>fandub
I'm a dubfag and I have a question:
Literally why.

Though super-fun fact is that a lot of the Madoka cast consists of ex-fandubbers. I know for certain Madoka, Homura, and Sayaka's were.

There's also a comicdub out there with some people who are now pro and in popular anime but it's not /u/ appropriate in any way.

>>2345877
The same reason Dragonball Z Abridged was so successful. Get a bunch of talented people who are mad about the series and like to poke fun at it, and the results can be amazing. Or shit, entirely depending.

Fun fact, there's four major madoka fandubs. All of them are very hit and miss, mostly miss. I don't know if it's a bad thing when you're so much into a fandom you explore even the fandubbing.

>>2345515
I have all of those symptoms, yet I don't have PTSD. You're full of shit. Just because you hate yourself for being a failure no matter what you try doesn't mean that you have PTSD.

>>2345763
I know your pain. My pain is mostly that there will never be any new Konoka x Setsuna art unless I commission it.

>>2345815
It's not about winning for her, though. It's all about giving Madoka a happy, normal life. That's what she promised Madoka, and that's what she will give Madoka, no matter the cost to herself or anyone else so long as it doesn't negatively effect Madoka.

>>2345927
If I were to hazard a guess, I'd imagine you're lacking the PT in PTSD. Not the case with Homura.

>>2345957
>It's all about giving Madoka a happy, normal life
That is what Homura's victory condition is.

>>2346039
I noticed the first transformation scene from Rebellion (fighting the Nightmare) was mirroring Sailor Moon very closely.

>>2346039
What could have happened to Madoka that resulted in her wearing that lewd outfit

>>2346046
Failed transformation is the official name for that outfit.

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>>2346052
We must go lewder.

>>2346054
>>2346039
I want to see Madoka confidently rocking that outfit with no shame at all.

>>2346056
Homura's going to be the one embarrassed when that happens.

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>>2346052
That's pretty funny

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>>2346028
Still, Homura doesn't think of it as "winning", and that should be obvious.

>>2345815
Homura has nothing to sacrifise and she has never sacrifised anything, such thing as happiness doesn't exist for her. If you never had a real depression, you would never understand Homura's character.

>>2346591
It's a Pyrrhic victory. Her personal losses are extreme, but all losses are acceptable if Madoka is ultimately happy.

>>2346687
By definition that isn't a Pyrrhic victory. A Pyrrhic victory implies the cost outweighed the results in the eyes of the victor. Even you admit that it was acceptable.

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>>2346679
I'll use a picture to make it easy for you to understand, ESL-kun: this is what Homura sacrificed.

>>2346691
If you're new here, please keep in mind baiting and false flagging is a pass time among all Madoka threads. though we do it less than /a/.

>>2346692
He's not wrong though. Homura might have saved Madoka, but she's had to cut herself off from her at the same time, and forgo a chance to actually be able to get close to her again. Homura straight up said she expects Madoka to be her enemy someday.

>>2346690
>A Pyrrhic victory implies the cost outweighed the results
This is news to me. Cadmean victory, then.

>>2346692
Replying to bait is also standard Madoka thread fare.

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Here's the last untranslated Maitake doujin, again thanks to scanner Anon.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/sachikano
https://neozeed.net/translation-new.htm
This one is the sweetest. My favorite together with Towakano.

I'm gonna do a few v2s with, among other things, afterword translations. But this should be mostly it. I'm leaving the pixiv comics to the bad reddit folks, since no way I'm racing them.

>>2346693
I was referring to ESL-chan and telling MadoHomu poster. Your views are the same as mine.

>>2346883
Sorry for the confusion then. At first I thought the madoka fanbase was one of the best anime fanbases around. Then I learned the bitter truth.

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>>2346819
I lost it at that. Well played Maitake, well played.

>>2346819
Homura and Kyoko being bros never gets old.

Also Madoka's dad having to deal with dad things is also fuckign amazing.

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>>2346819
That's a great quote. Life is not going to be the same now that we're in the post-Maitake age. When's the next Comiket coming?

>>2346888
There is no Goddess but Madoka and Homura is her Prophet!

>>2347104
How can yurisatan be god's prophet?

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>>2347187
Because Satan isn't a bad guy in the Bible (Until the Christians made him the bad guy). Satan is the Prosecutor and works for God directly. His name is literally "The Accuser".

Based translationfags who post and lurk here: is anyone doing Forest Village's works? She(?) has about 4 or 5 untranslated works and I'm considering getting Tigoris to do them. Before I drop the cash, I just want to make sure no one is thinking about dropping them in the next few weeks.

>>2347749
Didn't forest village drop drawing Madoka?

>>2347753
Looks like she's doing Idol Master stuff afaik. Her last Madoka work was in 2015.

>>2347187
She's also Yuri Mara, so it kind of cancels out.

>>2347871
But Mara is just the equivalent of a bored internet troll.

The Buddhist advice isn't even "you must fight Mara", it's more like "ignore Mara illusions, don't give in to Mara temptations, report Mara posters".

>>2347902
Which is very Homucifer, since once she's got the trapping enlightened beings in the illusion of the material world taken care of she goes around doing shit like breaking teacups and wasting apples.

>>2348030
Homura-chan is a useless devil only good for fanservice!

>>2348384
It's not her fault that she doesn't have the heart to be legitimately evil.

>>2348384
Madoka go to bed, you are drunk.

>>2348451
>implying that it isn't Homura posting that

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>>2348452
>implying anyone other than Madoka says 'Homura-chan'

>>2348475
>implying Madoka wouldn't defend Homura's honor at every opportunity if she actually remembered what she went through

>>2348504
>Homura-chan makes a terrible villain and I hate letting other people see her in that outfit
Sounds like she's doing her job

>>2348505
I'd buy it if it was more to the effect of "There's nothing devilish about Homura-chan except her good looks!"

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What was the fish dream?

>>2348760
Probably Sayaka turning into a witch.

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>>2348760
a reference to Octavia

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>>2348778
In other news, Kyouko is the cuter fish.

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>>2348776
>>2348778
That's obvious. She said "weird", though.

>>2348781
Sayaka could be one from a previous timeline, be staying in character in Homura's witches' barrier, or be the memory wiped Sayaka in Homura's new world. Hence why'd she call it weird.

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>>2348779

>Movie 4 never
>Season 2 never
>Shaft will just keep milking monogatari for the 9000 times

Fuck my life. Had it end without Rebellion I wouldn't be this desperate for a sequel.

>>2348786
>Milking Mono
>Animating an entire LN is now milking
I'm actually pretty happy that they're dedicated to doing the whole series. Much better than just doing a commerical. It's their Fate contract that actually has them on lockdown. They're doing animation for the movies coming out and adapting Fate/Extra.

>>2348779
It's not /u/ related but I can't help but imagine Kyouko is related to the Matsuoka family from Free!. Rin and Gou even kinda keep up the fruit naming theme Kyouko and Momo have.

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>>2348781

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Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but considering that this is Hidamari Sketch post-Madoka, it seems a little coincidental.

So after enduring the most recent shitstorm that is a Madoka thread on /a/, has there ever been problems with people crackposting here?

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>>2349364
Shaft making refernces to their own works? It's more likely than you think.

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>>2349369
This one was a lot more blatant.

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>>2349371
As was this one.

>>2349367
It's best not to talk about or bring up what goes on at /a/. For this thread's sake; don't worry about it.
Otherwise, you'll encourage meta discussion.

>>2349367
>Checks thread
What a fucking nightmare.

>>2349367
Are you talking about baiting or people latching onto the bait with fervor? Both is a problem.

>>2349405
Well, the thread here has been an island of calm compared to how they've gone down elsewhere.

>>2349367
Madoka threads on /a/ belong in /trash/ anyway.

>>2349367
No problem with the actual content despite what some may say.

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Anyone else really like the demented style of the clara dolls?

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>>2349416
They don't have nearly enough fanart of their own.

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>>2349416
>demented
More like adorable.

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>>2349419
precocious little scamps

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>>2349421
Reminder Madoka left Homura with 14 kids

>>2349518
>people actually want to talk about yuri in yuri shows
>implying Madoka has a canon yuri pairing other than Madoka and Homura.

>>2350189
I think that hand-hold in Rebellion cemented Sayaka and Kyoko as well.

>>2350190
Not that proved the SayakaxKyouko pairing was ever canon.But who really cares?

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>>2350189
Even if that was true, which it's not. How does that contradict what I said at all? You sound like you have issues you need to work out.

>>2350213
I really hope there are no body pillows of Homura in existence. I feel that would be really fucked up.

>>2350219
Someone in Korea married one.

https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2012/04/30/korean-otaku-marries-homura/

>>2350221
As if I needed less faith in the world.

And why would a guy marry a body-pillow of a lesbian anyway? Could he not tell Homura was as gay as a picnic basket?

>>2350225
A dakimakura can't talk back. At risk of sounding like a certain someone, dude doesn't love Homura. He loves the vague idea of her and this interpretation of her he created in his head.

This happened in 2012. I wonder what happened to him after Rebellion.

>>2350219
>I really hope that there are no body pillows of one of the most popular female anime characters of the decade

>>2350221
That was a publicity stunt for that TV show. They're the same show with the Fate guy. That website really wants to ignore that Koreans are goofy as shit.

>>2346062
I want to see all the girls failed transformation costumes.

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>>2350221
>“You might as well marry a washboard.”
>“Homura is only interested in girls, so this is hopeless anyway.”
Japanese fan response is on point.

>>2350358
>>“You might as well marry a washboard.”
Homura-chan is still growing! And she doesn't need a big chest to be cute!

>>2350221
that's stupid
I do not understand why people are still getting married

>>2350642
>>>/r9k/

>>2350642
tax and benefits.

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>>2340904

>>2352598
Our dreams tonight will be sweet
Midsummer
Sweet & spicy summer
How is condition?
We'll meet again when life comes full circle
Call my name tomorrow
All I need is your smile
Our first time
Delightful summer
Lovely Girls' series
La Dolce Vita
Almost anything by Pikachi.

>>2350225
For the same reason 85% Kuro porn is het : dicks care not for canon, characterization or orientation.