/tpg/ - Twin Peaks General

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>>87407240

Now that the dust has settled, where does the Return rank along Lynch's other work?

First for Leaping Lad.

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friendly reminder that doppelcoop did nothing wrong and Cooper was the real fuck-up the entire time

I don't understand episode 18.

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It won't stop hurting, guys.

>no set design, feels empty and lifeless
>no interesting ideas for storylines and generally bad writing
>relies on gimmicks only instead
>those are unoriginal or just bad, unfortunately ("fuck you, albert", glove, andy and lucy, coordinates, riddles, ...)
>bad acting (Bell, Lynch, Horse, Robertson, Dern, ...)
>dull characters (one-dimensional at best)
>storylines and characters are introduced for no purpose
>everything is supposed to weirdly connect and make sense
>shot in digital in a way that doesn't compensate for the technology's disadvantages (looks bad)
>roadhouse scenes (out of place, badly shot, the songs, the bands, the extras, ...)
>student-tier storytelling/editing (characters are shown walking up complete sets of stairs)
>stretched out needlessly, long takes have no particular effect
>obviously delusional and/or inexperienced fanbase perceiving it as particularly meaningful, complex or "deep"
>can't compare to the original series that doesn't have those problems (coherent/complex and beautiful sets, costumes and make-up/well shot/well acted/well written/magnificent multi-dimensional characters and character relations, music, storylines and gimmicks/creates a unique athmosphere as a result, changing the world of television forever whereas "the return" neither manages to do something established really good nor to invent something new)
>extended pitch black scenes because of a lack of a competent cinematographer
>audio issues with microphone static left unaddressed because of poor sound design
>extremely poor editing with magically disappearing extras and production staff accidentally walking into frame
>somehow the best thing in tv history

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>>87407240
All of Lynch's door/window shots are kino

>>87407315
Around top 3, if not his best work.

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david lunch lol

>>87407337
Sneaky Sheryl :3

>>87407352
lol

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>>87407243
Really makes you think

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Fuck laura I wanna know what Mike said

>>87407378
I mean he's not wrong, has Tarantino ever made a remotely three dimensional female character

some shots were definitely pieces of art but it was all so uneven.. some takes were somehow messy and amateurish looking, like that camera sweep around buckhorn before the episode cooper came back (i might remember the ep wrong)

>>87407419
Kill Bill

Reminder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TSyU6djt7M

The Return is the Prometheus of the Twin Peaks.
Completely unnecessary, explaining stuff nobody was interested in(jumping man, why Laura cried in forest), it ruined all the good memories people had of TP.

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THERE THEY ARE, ALBERT

I didn't like that ending.
>dude you have to make up your own theories, so deep.
No it doesn't work that way when you build up a lore during 3 seasons and shit that kind of ending. It failed to deliver.
>In b4 mulholland drive and lost highwar did the same
No, mulholland drive was pretty straightforward and losthighway wasn't about 3 season of detective shit. Also i cared about the characters, while i didn't give a fuck about Laura, Diane or the motivations of Cooper.

>>87407240
Cooper is Orpheus

I want to be sandwiched between 1990 Sheryl and 2017 Sheryl while they team up to do dirty things to me.

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Is it fair to compare the finale with Brazil, from when Evil Cooper shows up at the sheriff's station onward?

>>87407467
>standing ovation
>pour David Lynch

fucking frogs.

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>>87407540
>I cared about the characters
>but I don't care about the two main characters of the entire series

>>87407474
but anon
it explained absolutely nothing.

>>87407467
>This standing ovation benefited from the French Tax Rebate for International Production.

>>87407592
Retards are under a lot of stress, Rodney.

If you were forced to watch 3 episodes of The Return for 18 days straight, which 3 episodes would you choose? :^)

>>87407542
Yeah. Everyone in this thread should see Jean Cocteau's Orphee, it's very clear that Lynch has watched it

>>87407644
FWWM

>>87407540
Episode 17 was the real ending. 18 was the epilogue.

>>87407644
3,8,17

>>87407378
>This is my cousin but doesn't she look almost exactly like Laura Palmer?

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Tell me, is there a man oozing with more charm than Mr. C?

>>87407592
>>87407629
Took those words right outta my fuckin mouth.

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>>87407329
blew some fuses in my brain, too.

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>>87407644
8, 15 and 16
and the last 5 minutes of 18as a bonus

>>87407691

That's actually true and call me a pleb for making the comparison but it has a slightly Steven King's The Dark Tower feel to it.

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>>87407240
>Kinó shots

It's not a still shot, but it's as kino as it gets

>>87407592
I cared about Cooper when he was a FBI agent doing FBI agent stuff even if it was borderline sometimes. I don't give a fuck about "muh diane", "muh need to save the world" metaphysic bullshit.
And no, i never cared about Laura the drug addicted whore.
People even starting to think that it was all a dream of her since they can't believe that such a person was an angel send by some gods.

>>87407328

Judy
is
the
house

>>87407322
it was nice to see again a white-eyed doppelganger, always reminded me of the ghouls from The Evil Dead

>>87407714
the only thing he's oozing is fake tan

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>>87407764
>he's a coffee and pie comfyfag

You could have said that from the get-go and saved me the time, that's not the story Lynch gives any shits about

Never have felt so weird after watching a tv show. It's been three days and I legitimately still feel fucked in the head.

>>87407691
Even if it was the real ending, it was rushed and underwhelming.

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Does anyone else think that it was a bit anticlimactic to just have Lucy shoot Mr.C? Out of all the based characters, Lucy?
Also, what was he even up to anyway? I guess we can conclude that he was some kind of crime lord for the past 25 years, but do we know what did he try to accomplish by going to Twin Peaks 25 years later all of a sudden?

what do you think andy had in that picnic basket?

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>>87407761
oh yeah, that was a great one as well.

I have been working pretty solidly so haven't been keeping up with theories that may have developed over the last few days, but something hit me while at work today.

What if Dougie Cooper is Broken Cooper? The shell of a man who has realised he got everything wrong and wasn't good enough to stop whatever evil it was he had to. Maybe he had a total mental, spiritual and physical breakdown after the moment where he says 'What year is this?' and went catatonic? He begins to act like Dougie just before asking that question; unsure and unsteady and almost childlike.

We know that the timelines inter-cross and are convoluted, so it could make sense. I read somewhere that Cooper asking the year means the Ep. 18 ending was in the 'past', so Dougie is the present day shell of post-breakdown Cooper.

Also electroshock therapy used to be a thing used on catatonic/depressed patients so maybe that ties into the plug socket moment: he is told to wake himself up by the one armed man so the cycle repeats yet again.

>>87407846
Just cheese.

>>87407823
I'm not a coffee and pie comfyfag. I enjoyed s3 better than s1 and s2. Its just that the ending sucks for the reason i just told.

>>87407860
Ofc he was broken, anyone would be after spending 25 years in a Lovecraftian hellhole

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What was the equivalent scene of this in S3?

>>87407310
Reminded me of a point-and-click flash game you'd find on Newgrounds

>>87407474
>explaining jumping man
>ruining memories of TP
lol try again YOU PLEB

>>87407831
The lodge spirits were trying to get him back into the lodge as far as I can remember. There's a bit in one of the early episodes where he crashes his car and throws up everywhere where it seems like he's worried about the time.

>>87407831
b-but she finally understood how cell phones work!

>>87407644
1, 4, 12

>>87407831
He wanted the faceless woman/Diane.

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>>87407901

>>87407945
>Ray was /ourguy/ all along
makes me happy knowing that

>>87407940
what for???

>>87407764
>Laura the drug addicted whore
Ok bro

What was Bob trying to do by getting the coordinates? What was his goal at all during s3?

>>87407971
She allowed Cooper to enter whatever lodge rift existed along the desert road. Presumably Evil Coop wanted her for the same reason.

>>87407905
Giving me more of a mid-90s CD-rom adventure game vibe. Which reminds me how much I want a shitty 90s era Twin Peaks game

avant-garde anti-nostalghic masterpiece

>>87407897
But I mean he was broken by that moment where he realised he had fucked up, not just being stuck in the lodge that long.

And possibly even worse, he was constantly having to re-live that moment on a loop.

Cooper->fucks up->Dougie->electricity->Cooper->fucks up->Dougie->electricity->Cooper->fucks up->Dougie->electricity

>>87408011
The coordinates were to the location in the desert where Cooper and Diane traveled to. It would allow him to travel to Judy's dimension/the past.

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>>87407831

its explained here. Bad coop wanted to get to lauras house because Judy is the house and thats what he was after the whole time. For reasons...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0vm_Yyygl4&t=2s

>>87407940
Did you even watch the episode? Fireman sent him in Twin Peaks

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>>87407969
yes. such comfy

is tpg dying?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjCC8nqNytQ

remember "it's two fifty-three, fellas!"
it was also 2:53 in the Sheriffs dep.
now, spell it out one number at a time:

two five three
"too five free"
in Suaheli "TU FAYF FAREE" means "The one that dances with the snake"

notice how the clock creates and "O" shape?
now, Coop stands next to the clock on the right and his left arm extends, forming a "P"

The Suaheli phrase is often used to describe men who want to sexually please other men.
Lynchs message in that scene:

OP dances with snakes:
"OP IS A FUCKING FAGGOT"

>>87408060
Why didn't he go straight to the desert then?
Why does he want to travel to judy's dimension.

>>87408073
The Fireman can't distinguish between Cooper Prime and Mr. C.

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>>87408119

>>87407831
He basically explains it in the first episode. He's trying his best to avoid returning to the Black Lodge. He also shows the picture of Judy, and says that's what he wants. So he needs Judy to avoid going into the black lodge.

When he gets the actual coordinates, which would have send him directly to Sarah Palmer's house (possessed by Judy), The Fireman redirects him to the Sheriff's Office where he gets fucked over.

so did cooper need diane to "Cross over?" if not I can't imagine why she would've come with him instead of Gordon

>>87408153
At least we can feel tfw /tpg/

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>This guy knocks on your door and tells you you're not you and that you need to go visit your childhood home with him where you were sexually abused as a child

Do you trust him?

>>87408152
You're an idiot if you think that. He brought Evil Coop to the Office so that one punch lad could punch BOB back to hell.

>>87408174
why Diane was the blind girl?

>>87408181
Do I need a jacket?

>>87407467

This man is surely the greatest filmmaker and all well round artist of our time.

I love this man.

>>87408155
>The Fireman redirects him to the Sheriff's Office where he gets fucked over.
He also wanted to kill Naido, according to Andy, but I don't know why?

He could've just walked from the sherrif station to the palmer house or, even better, stolen a car

>>87408174

He could have taken Gordon but the sex would have been even more awkward.

Just marathoned Eraserhead.

What the fuck did I watch?

>>87408174
I'm not sure if Coop would have wanted to have sex with Gordon.

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>>87408181
>this guy spits on the ground and proceeds to beat the shit out of you and force you into a car before taking you on a trip to the middle of nowhere where he hands you a GPS and tells you to go stand on a rock

Do you trust him?

>>87408148
Evil Coop is a creation of Judy, and had already exhausted all the rape and murder of Cooper's friends and loved ones. What better than a whole new dimension to corrupt.

It seems like he needed a pure lodge entity to travel there.

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>>87408196

Laura confirmed best girl as she didn't take much convincing to put her coat on

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>>87408029
try Harvester.

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>>87408181
>Kyle will never come to your door and drive you off to Twin Peaks
why live

>>87408222
>erasehead
>marathoned

>>87408124
2+5+3=10

a certain number which, being composed out of the first four numbers, produces the most perfect number –– that is, ten (for 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10). This number is the first tetraktys and it is called
‘the fount of ever-flowing nature’ because it is their view that the whole universe is organized on harmonic principles, and harmony is a system of three concords (the fourth, the fifth, and the octave), and the ratios of these three concords are found in the four numbers I have already mentioned –– that is, in 1, 2, 3, and 4. For the fourth is constituted by 4 : 3, the fifth by 3 : 2, and the octave by 2 : 1.

>>87407328
Cooper needs to find Laura, she disappeared when he was holding her hand so following the Fireman's instructions (430) he goes to the Carrie Paige dimension to get her
what those dimensions are and what the ending means are up to you

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>>87408174

He needed to fuck her, it was like a spell that allowed them to go into our world or a similar world. If you notice Diane also had red hair and black and white fingers. She looks like the red room she is the manifestation of the waiting room and basically a powerful witch now just like how coop became a lvl 100 wizard

>>87407901
Dougie's car exploding.

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>>87408235

WHO THE FUCK IS JUDY?

>>87408207
That part is a bit confusing, but it might be because Andy saw him and he didn't want to be weird by running off.

>>87408029
>I want a shitty 90s era Twin Peaks game
>>>/vr/4242347
This recently translated psx game might be of interest to you anon

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>>87408303
ODigeo OEn sd

>>87408207

When Evil Cooper arrived at the Fireman's place, he got trapped in a cage. Brigg's floating head suggests Briggs and Fireman set up this trap knowing Evil Cooper & BOB might try and break in. Fireman then changes his google street view away from the palmer house and into the sheriff's office, Evil Cooper probably never saw the palmer house on screen due to being trapped and caged.

>>87408181
Did he ever say his name in episode 18?

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>>87408303

The fucking palmer house, sarah palmer is the jumping man, leland was bob. Laura had a hard life.

>>87407831

This is almost fanfiction but... right:

The place where Cooper crossed dimensions? The pylon that looked like the symbol on his card? Pretty sure that was the place he was trying to find. And I strongly suspect it might be because that was the world he originated from. It seems like a sort of inversion of the one the real Cooper came from so where real Cooper was a man of the law Doppelcooper might haven been a gangster in his world. So... I think Doppelcooper might have just tried to get home.

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>>87408248
I'm already a member of the lodge.

You always were a kidder, anon

what's worse: borderline delusional dupas who endlessly theorize about fictional characters that are emotionally invested in and they feel like they personally know irl or dumb as rocks recap merchants who don't even know the god damn characters and seem to lack the basic abilities to think abstractly or make any connections?

: - ) ALL.

>>87408381
DoppelCoop's home was the Black Lodge and it was also BOB's home

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Just got this today /tpg/ bros.

and ohhhh..angelo.

>>87408119
>>87408153
Reminder that they broke up and he married Sara shortly after only to divorce decades later. After that he married a BBW black lady who sang on some of his Christian records.

>>87407820
its dirt and grime and oil

only about 5 days before /tpg/ dies out

>>87408191
Probably a red herring so people would theorize that she was either Josie or her sister.

>>87408323
looks worth a try

>>87407415

>Your dad is in the White Lodge with The Giant. He told me this from a portal behind Nadine's eyepatch.

So who will direct the next Twin Peaks revival in 25 years? Lynch and Frost will by all likelihood be dead. Will it be Lynch's daughter?

>>87408323

thimbleweed park I suppose.

>>87407329
I've had this image and the windswept theme stuck in my head since the finale.

Haunting.

Thinking about it, BOB was only destroyed in the current year of the original, Laura Died timeline. The new timeline created by Cooper branches off from the original timeline only at the point where Laura is in the woods sobbing the night she was originally going to die. The fact that Laura has the same argument with James, and is just as distraught as she is in FWWM, suggests all the years of abuse she suffered at BOB's hands still happened. So even though Cooper creates a new timeline in which Laura doesn't die, BOB still exists in that timeline (still inhabiting Leland) and presumably doesn't stop his shit, just moves onto a new victim?

>>87408675
Disney

>>87408525
What is this? Music from the new season or the old one?

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>>87408525
Are you getting the Fire Walk With Me soundtrack too? It's superior to the show, imo.

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>>87408675

Lynch's protégé

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy4mXZN1Zzk

Has anyone here seen David Lynch: The Art of Life? Is it good?

>>87408701
I suppose that will mean a black protagonist with a white lover

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What was HIS fucking problem?

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Sheryl Lee is a very talented actress as well as a beautiful woman in all regards with a lovely smile and voice with meditative qualities!

>>87407714
Booper is cute!
CUTE!!

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Why was Lynch so cruel to him bros?

;_;

>>87408798
It's good
It's basically just him talking about his life before Eraserhead
It's an interesting watch

so, what he hell happened to audrey?

>>87408851
He didn't keep his jacket unbuttoned

Texting my friend this morning he told me he thinks the Diane/Coop sex scene is possibly the best scene Lynch has ever directed. I really don't get it.

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>>87408860

Turns out she was less important than Josie

>>87408845
That's jack nicholson

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/tpg/, have it been deciphered what does the Jumping man say when Cooper ascends the stairs in the Palmers House in ep. 17?

It is very fast, but I slowed it down, and still can't understand:
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0BpzkLoYH3X

>>87408834
Albert is now black
Gordon outs himself as gay

now the dust has settled, what did we really think of the ending?

>>87408860
shes in a mental hospital

the absolute state of people in the roadhouse


Remember that random chink screaming on the floor

>>87408845
is that the BOB ball in his stomach?

>>87407969
Does that mean Darya was a good gal too? She was Ray's partner after all.

>>87408920

Hello, Frenlo :^)

>>87407905
>>87408029
There was a trippy 90's game produced by Robert DeNiro that had similar vibe, like that The Residents game.
Also there are two very similar games to TP, first is Mizzurna Falls, made for PS1, came out only in Japan, but through the years it was translated by one woman team, and second, Deadly Premonition, seriously weird and seriously close to TP, it's pretty great, if you can start it, that is... Plus it has phenomenal soundtrack.

>>87408920
Back away a little bit, Michael. Yeah, back away. Back- back, keep goin' back. There, perfect. Perfect

He just liked the way it sounded

>>87408708
Season 1&2 OST from Mondo

>>87408709

Just ordered now

: - ) ALL.

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>>87408560
>he married a BBW black lady

>>87408929
Maybe he's just preggo

So was Ray an FBI informant from the start? If so, why didn't he tell the FBI more about DoppelCoop and why did the FBI not know that "Coop" wasn't actually missing?

>>87408977
dunno, Gordon only mentioned Ray so I figure she probably wasn't an informant as well.

>>87408920
It's Lynch directing.

>>87408929
It also looks like the garmonbozia puke on his stomach.

Maybe he was a frogbug.

>>87407310
Lynch's head is cooked.

>>87407831

His death was really anticlimactic, IMO. I think the first half of the basketball bob fight shouldve been with doppel, and after freddie finally kills doppel, bob flies out of his torso and attacks.

>>87409023
Thanks. Was it the instructions Lynch was giving to the cameraman?

>>87409060

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>>87408248
>>87408385
what did steve mean by this?

>>87408340
Yes, when Tremond/Chalfort answers the door at the end he says his name is special agent Dale Cooper.

>>87409061
I'm guessing that's because she didn't live long enough to find-out or pass them any pertinent info.

>>87408999
Also, the cast in DeNiro's game is made of Cher, James Belushi and other Hollywood people.
weird

>>87408977

Reminder that Darya and Ray are alive somewhere in the new timeline that Magician Cooper creates by "rescuing" Laura. Since Evil Cooper never existed, his network of truck driver meth dens was never set up, Darya works as a receptionist at a shipping firm and Ray is a rodeo stuntman

>>87408276
>He needed to fuck her

why not gordon? i thought they were true bros.

Can we al agree that the non chronological narrative was unintentional?

>>87408525

>vinyl not red

Missed opportunity

>>87409194
Yes.

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Is there a time line where this man has a happy life?

>>87409092
https://youtu.be/oI1eeIb-qlU

>>87408860
Lynched

>>87408216
>>87408232
>>87408276
so y'all think it was some kind of literal sex magic?

>>87408851
Jealousy. Pure and simple.

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>>87408381
Bozo, the symbol on his card is the symbol of the thing that lives under the moon on Blue Pine mountain. The thing that is in our house now, that one must listen to the sounds to hear. The thing you don't ever want to know about. Whose arms bend back sometimes when it spews eggs and BOB.

>>87409219

the FWWM one is red this one is orange anon. You don't get to pick. Mondo/DeathWaltz only puts it out once lol

>>87409173
Oh, yeah, and there is a game called "Dark Eye", made in stop motion animation which tells the stories of E. A. Poe, it features freaking William S. Burroughs as a narrator.

Can we migrate /tpg/ to /vr/ and just keep on talking about weird 90s adventure games?

>>87409250
Sex has always been considered one of the most mystic istances of life: from Plato to Kant, from the dawn of Indo-European myth in the Steppe of Asia to postmodern Chaos Magick, the loss of rationality and feeling of compenetration/superimposition with another human being (ego death, if you will) that come along with sex have been thought of as a way to get closer with the truth of Gods/Being; using sex, "magical" acts can be performed and wondrous things achieved, or at least so mythology says.

>>87409232
How does he have white hair at age 50?

>>87408324
>Where am I?!
Cute

>>87409322
Stress

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IT IS ABOUT A BUNNY?

>>87409291
Shut up faggot

What was the point of Henry Rollins' character?

>>87409270
>they never went back on the second day

>>87408928
I like the whole audrey is in a madhouse and the roadhouse is extensions of that theory, but james and shelly and freddy appearing in the roadhouse kind of cheapens it, makes it inconsistent. We see a fake roadhouse but also the real one, but they're indentical, there's no divide

and then stuff like the characters audrey bringing up being mentioned by the chick renee who james has a crush on (i.e. chuch) sort of muddies the thing

I love the woodmen

>>87409353
Episode 17 occurred on the second day.

>>87408845
He's been shot, anon

>>87409382
go on

>>87407333
>storylines and characters are introduced for no purpose
>extended pitch black scenes because of a lack of a competent cinematographer
>audio issues with microphone static left unaddressed because of poor sound design
>extremely poor editing with magically disappearing extras and production staff accidentally walking into frame
These are the only legit criticisms.

>>87409270

Sure, it's also obviously Judy's symbol but Judy was talking to him over the phone back in episode 2, threatening him and telling him he'd go back into the Black Lodge and she'd be with Bob again which I imagine is exactly what he didn't want. So I don't see how meeting Nudy would be in his interest. At all.

>>87409250

Yeah, I can't take the credit for this theory, but Judy / the Experiment was summoned to the glass cube by sex. And pain and suffering is needed to enter the black lodge. So they had awkward sex, Diane was flooded with memories of Evil Cooper rape, and the next day, Cooper wakes up in a different motel than the one he went to sleep in.

>>87409407
Mr.C went in on the second day

>>87409357
Audrey was bridging the timelines. Charlie represents people talking to her, or around her.

>>87407240
>Richard

He says his name is Dale Cooper twice, TWICE.`

>>87409466
>`
What did you mean by this?

>>87409441
So when I said, "They never went back on the second day," you see what I meant by that.

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I have a pretty good grasp of episode 8, but I still don't understand this scene at all. What does the saddened face overlay mean? Who did Gordon and Diane appear at the Great Northern with Cooper? Why did Gordon even have to be there at all if he didn't go on to follow Cooper like Diane did?

>>87409466
>>>87407240 (OP)
>>Richard
>He says his name is Dale Cooper twice, TWICE.`
Yeah, he retains coop. But Machlachlan also referred to him as richard in an interview, as a "slight variation on coop."

he's both

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>>87408381
>>87409270
He wanted to get to the coordinates of the White Lodge entrance (pool of white on ground by sycamore tree instead of pool of black motor oil smell). He could then warp into it and from there warp to Judy's location (he doesn't know who Judy is nor where).

He got to the White Lodge, but the Giant was ready for him with Briggs backup. Casually slid over the Palmer house on the screen and replaced with the sheriff station. Then put him in the tuba and sent him to it.

What's the log lady's connection with the lodge?

>>87409499
*18
Oops.

>>87408860
She's having a similar experience to Laura at the end, she was having a vivid flash of her life as "Audrey" in that universe

>>87409499
Either even that part is a dream and Cooper is realizing it, or it's a purely meta thing to make the viewer aware that not all is well and that something is very wrong

>>87409494
The Giant told everything he needed to know already, there was no point in coming back

>>87409499
Maybe it's Richard, at the end, with Carrie, finally realizing.

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I AM IN LOVE LAURA PALMER...

>>87409527

No, its Cooper in serious fucking business mode.

Not Richard

Not doppelcoop

Just COOPER

>>87409431
He didn't know that was Judy either (Sarah Palmer talking with 2×22 voice "I'm in the black lodge with Agent Cooper". If he got to Judy, she would have sucked BOB out and been with him again and blown the doppelganger back to the black lodge.

>>87409543

But that doesn't get us anywhere. What did he want from Judy?

>>87409250
Watch Lost Highway

I'm gonna be completely honest gents, I don't understand the role of the woodsmen AT ALL.

>>87408053
i like this idea.

>>87409569

there
is
no
richard

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if it is a "good" ending and coop was successful in waking laura-up and vanquishing judy, what happens to him? NON-EXIST-ENCE?

>>87409466
He's suppossed to be Richard, but he can remember his real identity through Fireman's clues, at least that's what I gathered

>>87409613
To fuck shit up. Same reason that Jack Parsons wanted to summon the Moon Child.

>>87409623
It's about a guy who can't get it up and fantasies about being a young idiot who fucks every chick.

>>87409499
He knows he can't stay in normal world, it's not the same and he isn't either. He is now a dreamer, a lodge creature, whatever.

>>87409637

Low ranking spirits. Basically the worker ants of the black Lodge. Seem to serve higher powers like Bob.

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>Ends the series with Inland Empire kinda bullshit
Was Frost a cuck? No way he would agree to end it like this

>>87409659
I think something similar to Jeffries.

>>87409667
Bozo, he's an inhabiting spirit inside of Richard. He's DALE COOPER now. Phillip Gerard has MIKE inside him. Richard has DALE COOPER inside.

>>87409641
Call him whatever you want, that Cooper at the end.

>>87409382

fucking how, watching 18 first then 17 second would make zero sense.

>>87409714
the final dossier will be the real finale

>>87409710
so they're basically "undocumented immigrants" working hard for nothing so we can all enjoy access to the top-tier Jeffries brand tea.

YOU'RE GOING BACK TO MISSOULA

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cuteposters btfo lmao

>>87409700
Yes and at the end they have sex and the girl says "you can never have me"after which a lighting occurs

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>>87409714
The ending was Frost's idea, he needed it to explain the inconsistencies in his book

>>87409499

By going back in time and rescuing Laura, Cooper erased the entire timeline of Twin Peaks from the moment her body was found right up to 25 years later in the Sheriff's office after dispatching BOB. A new timeline is created and the only remaining traces of the old timeline are Cooper's memories. In fact what we are seeing is Cooper's memories hence the overlaid face

BUT! Cooper took the original Cole and Diane into the new timeline with him, meaning they will also remember the original timeline (Philip Jeffries even references this). Why does he take Cole? Maybe so he can solve blue rose cases better.

>>87409731
So Coop becomes a Lodge spirit or something? When exactly?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2146617-the-sun-just-belched-out-the-strongest-solar-flare-in-20-years/
>Sun unleashes the strongest flare in 20 years
BOB's coming back, boyos

>>87407458
femme fatal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDi3MP9zMFM
>lynch succeeded to give the feeling of when you encounter death in your life of your love ones . you dont understand it, it dosent make sense and you just dont know what to do with yourself, you want to escape but cant, that's how i felt when i saw the ending

Wow, deep. Also, I agree.

did the coops face imposed on the screen had anything to do with diane?
it stopped for a moment when they kissed

>>87409714
doesn't frost love his bizzare lore?

>>87409794
That peppy bounce she does was cute as fuck though.

>>87407644
3 16 18

Why was there 2 Dianes at the shady motel? Why did he change dimension after fucking her?

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anyone got the webm of jumping friend gliding downstairs?

>>87407240
anybody have a picture of dark cooper on fire from the final episode?

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Ouch

>>87409959
intercourse between two worlds

>>87409800
Yeah, she was something "magical", she's the girl which he'll never truly have, she's mystical, out of his league, and even when he fantasied he couldn't have her, when the lighting happened he was still in his dream state and it represented his failing libido.

>>87409994
here
>>87407322

>>87410003
>how dare Lynch use a studio recording of me like he did for all the other acts, that rat bastard
It's like she hasn't even seen Mulholland Drive.

>>87410003
Lynch gave her a career. She should be licking his boots

What's the deal with Leland and Sarah being the name of Carries parents? When Coop says the names to her she reacts as if he was right.

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>>87410029
Thank You!

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>>87409731
He tries his Lodge swipe in the end and realises he can't do it. He only had that power in the Lodge, likely at the behest of the Fireman so he could do his bidding. But when the mission is complete he is no longer needed and thus has no power.
He thought he had gained Lodge powers but in the end he's a mere mortal (who may or may not have fucked things up). He's not a Lodge Spirit.

>>87410003
>end of s3 and probably the entire story
>'no longer cares'

you're a smart one julee

>>87410003
Was it me?
Was it you?
Questions in a world of blue..

>>87410107
She doesn't remember Leland but Sarah makes her question her existence. It fits well within the "Judy's reality" theory

Just watched episode 17 again and now I keep "seeing" Coop's superimposed face everywhere. That shit got under my skin.

>>87410162

He says, 'your fathers name is Leland' and she says 'OK?'

>>87410003

She's just being ungrateful. James' actor had an extremely minor role in this season compared to the first two and he never seemed anything but grateful to be in it. She was some random singer who did part of the soundtrack in the old show and it's the same in the new one. What does she have to complain about? I get Sherilyn Fenn being kinda pissed about her role but not Cruise.

>>87408845
He's a dreamland Mr C

look at the hair

>>87410215
They're women in the era of entitlement

so in the original timeline where laura didn't die did she wake up in her bed to continue her life how it was, or did she simply disappear? if she disappeared would events in the town not transpire pretty much the same? only difference would be that it was a missing person investigation rather than a murder.

>Hawk saw something lodge related in the woods
>he won't say what it was
>turns out it was irrelevant
>the whole point of his storyline is to discover that there are two coopers and yet he's baffled when he sees a second cooper
why even film the first 16 episodes honestly

>>87410140
Fireman is white lodge, he ain't got shit on black lodge. Cooper is the only magician with both black + white lodge certification. His power to befriend everyone extends beyond the visible universe.

Cooper was trying to open the shit the way you pinch yourself to wake up from a dream, fearing he was still in the lodge. All that was confirmed by his inability to swipe a curtain is that he was in the physical universe.

He did gain lodge powers. Those of both the white and black lodge. Judy gonna get fucked up now that Laura had a horrifying re-integration of her memories. Mrs. Tremond/Chalfont using her skills to replace the interior of the house temporarily in order to delay the confrontation until Laura is primed.

Laura face needs to be able to come off to battle Sara face come-off.

>>87410003
4chan friends, let me tell you, in the Lynch household we call this "pulling a Sherilyn"

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>>87410185
Same. That scene is incredible but it's the biggest mystery of the finale to me. What the fuck does it mean?

>>87410215
despite my hate for og james, the actor seems based as fuck

>>87410204
As in "Ok, is that what you think?"
She thinks he's bullshitting until he mentions Sarah, where she starts to wonder what the hell is going on.

/tpg/ is already dead after only 3 days. What a joke of a series and fanbase LOL

>>87410003
This stupid cunts is probably a feminist who didn't like how all the cunts got lynched in season 3. Lynch held no punch, he was full on no fucks given. She's probably also bitter because we saw her just a little bit unlike the young blood

>>87410320
kek
I call it midget madness

>>87410307

You are now realising that some of Hawk's scenes may have taken place in the new timeline where Laura was not murdered, but is an open missing person's case. Go back and watch them again.

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>>87408222
you can't marathon something with a film's runtime you millenial pleb

>>87410329
Ending Cooper realizing he and Carrie are fucked.

>>87410307
back to plebbit, posi-fag. your hero and waifu are both fucked. deal with it.

Does anyone plan to actually buy and read Final Dossier? I'll just look up the important plot points on the internet

>>87407714
i'm starting to wonder whether he could ever even see out of those blackout contact lenses....

>>87410292
Lol this really got me
>idea of two coopers constantly being pushed by Briggs' and Log Lady's clues
>Even the Sherrif gets it
>"B-b-but that is Cooper!"
Abos truly are stupid

>>87410478
no

it's not even cannon

>people unironically believe Coop became a Lodge spirit
Again, if this were true, the ending of e18 wouldn't have rattled him as much as it did. He would've been able to recognize Alice Tremond as a lodge spirit the moment he heard her name and knew he was being played, and he would easily be able to restore Laura's memories without taking her to the house. I'm sure there'd be no concern over being unable to travel back to the real world either.

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I cannot see a picture of Ray Wise smiling anymore without thinking he is about to say/shout

"BLACK. GRANDMAS!!" before cackling and violently shaking his head.

Just marathoned The Cowboy and the Frenchman ask me anything

>>87410508
I don't think a book can used as an artillery that uses gunpowder to fire heavy projectiles either

>>87410476
>projecting
Stay mad that you're a Johnny-come-lately reddit pleb who hates spaces between paragraphs (since I'm supposed to use tabs). If I'm supposed to use tabs, why does no one else use tabs? I'll tell you why. Because you're from reddit so since you have to double-return in order to linebreak there you assume that I am unintentionally causing this space between my paragraphs. You are reddit.

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>>87410454

>>87410456
But midget was right about D. Lynch. He was very rational about it and not histerical at all. Show lost a lot without the little man.

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>>87410511

What year is it?

>>87410528

Why did Jack Nance never have a decent career and why did he have to die as a bitter old drunk rather than the accomplished character actor he should have been?

"See you in 25 years" finally makes sense. She meant that they will meet in real life. The happening in the last episode was a part of the plan.

>>87410508
>anything the co-creator says isn't canon
>also ignoring Tammy and comatose Audrey were introduced through the first book and explored proper through the show
Anytime someone makes this argument like they seriously believe Lynch is the be all end all to everything TP and he apparently only works with Frost for kicks is the moment I stop taking them seriously.

>>87410003
bet she'll still cash her checks

>>87410459
The entire show took place in a universe where Laura was a missing person—the same universe that Cooper accessed at the end.

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Mark, why are we shooting my season 4 scenes first?

>>87410478
Secret history was a pretty fun read desu so I will, hope there's more spoopy aliens and tricky dick

>>87410625
wow thanks god this is anonymous board

Why was the ending so fucking sad? :(

>>87410307
>befriend everyone extends beyond the visible universe
Being used by multiple parties means you befriend them? Mike still fucked him over right before Jeffries had something to say to him.

>>87410509

He's a novice magician, I can't believe people unironically deny it after he's welcomed by MIKE with the fire walk with me chant, and controls the red room curtains with his hands like a boss. Hes in over his head in Judy's dark world though.

>>87410666
Have you ever seen any of Lynch's films?

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>>87410652
Do you have Skype™, retired Agent Cole?

>>87410584
the fuck are you on about mate? you're a weak-minded plebbitor because you can't deal with the fact that your hero and waifu came to a bad end. try to spin it into a neat little happy ending all you want and cry more.

and i don't give a fuck about your paragraphs, nerd.

>>87409250
https://www.google.com/search?q=orgone+box&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS756US756&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj41J7GtZHWAhWK1IMKHdbHAkIQ_AUICygC&biw=1440&bih=809

>>87410652
>In Memory of DAVID LYNCH
;_;

>>87410782
Most likely

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You wanna know who killed Laura? (YOU) DID! We all did. And calling her CUTE ain't gonna bring her back so save your prayers. She woulda laughed at them anyway.

>>87410674
But he still wouldn't be in any real danger. If he's like MIKE now and inhabiting Richard's body, he can just leave it, return to the Lodge and start over again. Or at the very least find another approach.

I think the curtain thing he does is just to show that he's spent so much time in the Lodge that he knows what to expect now. And it's not as if MIKE has never exchanged that chant with him in season 1.

>>87410637

That's an intriguing statement but self contradictory. That said it would be interesting to check whether there are any references to the Palmer case as being a murder case.

>>87410320
Sherilyn recanted and in any case didn't attack Lynch personally, just called Showtime sexist.

>>87410509
He never met Mrs. Tremond, she's a name that Donna told him. The Mrs. Tremond he met was a fucking nigger woman.
He never met Mrs. Chalfont either, she was packed up when he went to Deer Meadow.
He's skilled enough to have remembered when they walked away though, and to figure it out. That's why he asks what year it is, fearing Mrs. Tremond is too young.

>>87410839
AAAAAAMMMMMMMEEEEN

Does anybody remember that story from when the premiere first aired, that Lynch made the entire production team sign a contract that forbids anyone to speak of the production for 5 years?

>>87409543
What is it with Lynch and photoshoping Laura Dern?

>>87410711
Holy shit look at this Reddit scum with his redditspacing, not even going to read a single word of your post get the fuck back

>>87410922
NEW THREAD

>>87410922
NEW THREAD

>>87410922
NEW THREAD

>>87410622
I hated every fucking scene with him. It was beyond awful, who actually enjoyed this retar
ded cuck. I was so happy when died in the show.

>>87410637
>>87410459
And what, she was molested, tried to bottle up the emotions, moved south, started a new life?
seems a bit weird, but possible.

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uhhh

guys

>>87410884

>was a fucking nigger woman.

back to /pol/, spergo agnew

and it wasn't a black woman at all, nice brain damage you dummy

>>87410884
I'm glad this thread is now auto-saging so less people can be exposed to your idiocy.

>>87410672
Fucked him over by taking him to Jeffries and casting the E LEC TRI CI TY spell?

>>87410329
When the lights go out and Gordon shouts for his name, that's that reality ending, as Cooper changes the timeline.

>>87410855
When have you ever seen Phillip Gerard's inhabiting spirit leave Gerard's body and return to the lodge corporeally? You have seen only Phillip Gerard with MIKE inside in the lodge / above the convenience store.

>>87410994
Seems Lynch is a hack.

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>>87410857
Entire Season 3 was post-Laura Palmer disappearance. She got JUDYed away and couldn't be there to face Mother. Resulted in 25 years of mounting JUDY power, culminating in the escape from the glass box of the JUDY.

BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL.

>"Audrey's Dance"
>Bellucci and Albert/Gordon in general sometimes
>"Palmer's house" owned by the actual owner
>"it's a bad story" / "what happens in season 2?"

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>>87410839
>>87410888

S1E3 is what hooked me with the dream sequence, but S1E4's funeral scene is when I knew I was witnessing pure kino. When Leland jumped on the casket I didn't know whether to laugh, cry, or even if should feel bad that I felt conflicted about it. Never had a show give me that feel before.

>>87408222
The themes in Eraserhead aren't even difficult, pleb. Wasted trips honestly

>>87411268

Also at the end of episode 11, Coop appears to briefly recognize the piano playing "Laura's Theme"

>>87410972
Listen to the sounds

>>87411037
She sure as fuck wasn't Mrs. Choate when Cooper met her, she was the real occupant of the house.

Bad Coop represents The Return ("Would you like a cup of coffee?" - "I'm all right.") and Cooper is the OG series, trying to overtake bad Coop.

>>87411268
"it's a bad story" / "what happens in season 2?"
Is this one backed up by anything? Watched this episode without subtitles and couldn't hear anything.

>>87411326
>Listen to the sounds
You mean throughout the series or at some particular moment?

>>87411584
the first one says sarah to hawk and the latter albert in the morgue. but the idea of this being the final dialogue of cooper and laura is hilarious

>>87410782
Don't do this to me, anon.

>>87408525
report back with how it sounds. i've been told this pressing sounds like shit and it noisy as fuck. not surprising though, the Jurassic Park pressing blew.

So is Sarah Palmers houe the new convenience store, or was it always that way?

Gordon Cole is the true villain of the story.

Confirmed season 4 spoiler

Albert dies

>>87411775

For his crappy self insert shit, time wasting and refusal to make more than one facial expression?

>>87411749
It was always like that.

>>87409894
literally what???

>>87410140
why so people keep saying hes doing the lodge swipe in this scene?? Hes clearly not doing anything like that!

What the fuck do I watch now? I need something new to get my mind off this show.

>>87412049
He is probably doing that, but maybe he's just acting like Dougie.

>>87409232
reminder he is murderer and the reason that laura got into coke

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Friendly reminder that it's been confirmed that Eddie Vedder recorded a song that plays during the Twin Peaks finale. It confirms Agent Cooper never gets his mind back. (Pic is Richard)
Listen https://youtu.be/pXth84G7dkM

>>87412305
How did no one find that body? They just threw some dirt on it.