/tpg/ - Twin Peaks General

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>>87410922
friendly reminder that doppelcoop did nothing wrong and Cooper was the real fuck-up the entire time

>>87410922
He's got his own M.O.

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>>87410976
>48% of /tpg/ thinks Part 17 was better

Really?

>>87410982
b-but he raped Audrey

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Reminder that Coop & Chet are now in the same universe.

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anyone notice this sigil?

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>>87410922
So we all agree Judy was the Palmer house, right? And the lights exploding in the Palmer house shows that Judy was BTFO by Laura, right? Especially when you consider the electricity from the Lynched/Frosted logo was gone. And also, keep in mind the Giant/Fireman is the most clear benevolent force in Twin Peaks.

>>87411023
>Audrey wanted Coop to fuck her
>doppelcoop grants her wish
did
nothing
wrong

>>87411011
>722 responses
It's very clearly been botted. Most people seem to prefer part 18

>>87411023
and he let jerry horne kill his son with his binoculars :(

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>no set design, feels empty and lifeless
>no interesting ideas for storylines and generally bad writing
>relies on gimmicks only instead
>those are unoriginal or just bad, unfortunately ("fuck you, albert", glove, andy and lucy, coordinates, riddles, ...)
>bad acting (Bell, Lynch, Horse, Robertson, Dern, ...)
>dull characters (one-dimensional at best)
>storylines and characters are introduced for no purpose
>everything is supposed to weirdly connect and make sense
>shot in digital in a way that doesn't compensate for the technology's disadvantages (looks bad)
>roadhouse scenes (out of place, badly shot, the songs, the bands, the extras, ...)
>student-tier storytelling/editing (characters are shown walking up complete sets of stairs)
>stretched out needlessly, long takes have no particular effect
>obviously delusional and/or inexperienced fanbase perceiving it as particularly meaningful, complex or "deep"
>can't compare to the original series that doesn't have those problems (coherent/complex and beautiful sets, costumes and make-up/well shot/well acted/well written/magnificent multi-dimensional characters and character relations, music, storylines and gimmicks/creates a unique athmosphere as a result, changing the world of television forever whereas "the return" neither manages to do something established really good nor to invent something new)
>extended pitch black scenes because of a lack of a competent cinematographer
>audio issues with microphone static left unaddressed because of poor sound design
>extremely poor editing with magically disappearing extras and production staff accidentally walking into frame
>somehow the best thing in tv histor

>>87411042
It's Frost. Who gives a shit.

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What was Mr Tojamura's endgame?

>>87411026
their adventures would make for an amazing movie

>>87411026
I hope that they come back if we ever get a season 4.

>>87411138

Honourable business

>HOW DARE YOU DUB OVER MY GROANING AND SCREECHING DAAAAAAAAVID

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc2poJyhBKo

>>87411097
>he doesn't get it

Cooper creates a new timeline in which Laura doesn't die but instead simply goes missing. We are shown scenes from Twin Peaks in both the original Laura-dies timeline, and the new Laura-disappeared timeline, they depict subtly different characters and events.

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This fucking part, the webm doesn't do it justice, the sound as it hard cuts to the red room is crazy.

>>87411076
There's no shame in liking part 17. It's a light-hearted parody of fan expectations capped with a sense of dread at what happened to Laura. That's Twin Peaks in a nutshell.

Part 18 is a return within the return. It stands by itself.

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>Hawk up to episode 17: Guys, there are two Coopers? Huh. Two Coopers.
>Hawk when there are two Coopers: Uhh.. two Coopers?!?! What is going on here? This shit is crazy as fuck lmao. How are there two of them?!?!

>Miguel Ferrer is dead and there was ZERO interaction between Dale and Albert

the only thing that truly bummed me out about this season

>>87411067
Finally someone realizes.

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What was Cole's drawing about?

Lynch is a hack.

>>87411138
Where did she get the japanese assistant?

I LOVE LAURA PALMER
She's not only "CUTE", but also a goddess of purity and innocence. All scenes with her fucking strangers and sniffing cocaine are a devious delusion created by Lodge spirits, Lynch and Frost.

>>87411233
Something that might give some credence to the Part 18 is OUR reality are those "Laura Palmer Missing" posters that showed up in Australia during the marketing campaign.

People never managed to confirm the validity of them, but now I'm thinking they might just have been real.

>>87411180
>joe_rogans_hears_his_podcast_is_getting_cancelled.webm

>>87411247
He never left the black lodge, he was always in it and season 3 is a dream created by Judy to trap him there, that's why the superimposed face is in the black lodge.

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>6% were right after all

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BRAVO JEN

>>87411011
The finale is not just them killing BOB. There's much more after that.

>>87411307
the axolotl

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>CHET, GIVE SAM STANLEY THE GLAD HAND

>>87411327
In Seattle at Judy's

>>87411327
That's what was puzzling me too.

New McLachlan interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2ZPVa1oShQ

>>87411067
That's pretty much how I see it. The dead guy was someone that Judy sent to kill Laura. The Chalfonts were a last ditch effort to get Laura and Cooper away from the house.

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Imagine getting payed for being wrong

>>87411204
Oh, she's upset because she was dubbed by the old version of the song?

Do you think Coop and Truman felt Hawk was on equal footing as him? They often treat him as an errand boy in the first two seasons

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>>87411307

>>87411011
It's the Mark Frost loving coffee and pie memers.

>>87411307
Cole's hobby is creating fakemon.

>>87411252
Part 17 was hilarious. The way the entire sheriff station goes dark and woodsmen appear is really funny to me, for some reason.

>>87411486
So, the actual fans of the show as opposed to Lynch dick-swillers.

Why are people complaining?

>Mr. C is dead
>Bob is destroyed
>Dale is no longer trapped in the Black Lodge
>Dale has woken her up from her dream
>Dougie is back home

Lynch doesn't even normally give an inch to the good guys, and you faggots all want a totally happy ending. You should be happy what he gave you.

>>87411452
Probably not but they treated Andy and Lucy the same way.

>>87411417
He's right though.

>>87411452
He wasn't on equal footing to them because he was literally Harry's subordinate.

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>yfw the set leaks were part of the ARG
The only pics we got were taking place in that "alternate dimension", i.e. the real world.

Get LYNCHED.

so when did JUDY inhabit Sarah? Seems a bit strange she was so terrified of BOB. Also I never understood if she recognised the horse or not.

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>>87411342
I think he just went from one dream into another, that's what the realization is, that things are changing and he'll have to leave.

Think of the Phillip Jeffries scene in Fire Walk With Me, and then The Return, Cole claims he forgot it ever happened "He was never here!" it took him 25 years to remember it, and he did so in a dream.

I think the same thing happened to Cooper, whatever place he was at, is as "real" as "real" is in this show, it wasn't something construed by Judy or himself, people will continue existing there but he will move on.

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STOP PRETENDING

If you use 'Mr. C' you're from Reddit

>"good" Cooper mocks Diane all the time at the office
>she shrugs it off as Cooper's silly boyish nature
>ends up raping her
Diane had a hard life
https://youtu.be/_YQA0U6zWyY

>>87411416
Does he have garmonbozia on his belly? It looks like he puked on himself. It's too chunky looking to just be blood imo

YOU'RE GOING BACK TO MISSOULA

What ever happened to Missoula-anon?

>>87411548
at being wrong

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>>87411631
Oh shit, I've been found out

>>87411636
Mr. T

>>87411571
i swear to god there was a set leak photo posted here after E16 aired of Balthazar Getty and Madchen Amick going into a hotel room together but it was deleted after 20 seconds, wish i saved it

>>87411621
Palmer House - Judy
Sarah - Jumping Man
Leland - BOB

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>>87411571
FUUUUUCK

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>>87411636
:-)

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>>87411621
Never. Sarah and The Jumping Man are part of each other.

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>>87411349

>James Hurley
>8%

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>>87411636

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how come nobody's discussing this?

>>87411233
>Roadhouse scenes with Reneé, Freddie and James take place in the Laura dies timeline
>other Roadhouse scenes take place in the Laura lives timeline
>the RR shots with different patrons are both realities shown at the same time, the one where Bing asks if anybody has seen Billy is the Laura lives timeline and the one where Bing leaves the RR is the Laura dies timeline
>Nadine is watching jacobi in both timelines, which is why it's shown twice and in two slightly different ways
>The scene where Shelley asks her daughter to come eat a piece of cherry pie with her at the diner since she can't leave is followed by a scene of Bobby getting at the diner and Shelley isn't there, there he meets Ed and Norma and we're introduced to the franchise subplot which probably takes place in the Laura lives timeline (since the other timeline, the one where Shelley interacts with her daughter, also features Red who has some interactions with Richard).
>Dougie playing baseball with sonny jim is probably the second Dougie who is created later (as the timeline doesen't fit)
>Audrey may be dreaming of the Laura lives timeline where the Billy subplot takes place
That's all I can think of

>>87411367
OH MY GOD

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>>87411571
There was leaked pictures of Harry Dean Stanton and Booper too.
I remember because someone thought that Harry Dean Stanton was playing an older BOB, what a retard.

>>87411349
Why would Catherine Martell kill Laura? She never even met the Palmers.

>>87411528
because the ending implies that some of those things, and possibly all of them, never happened

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>>87411400
>8:30
>the grapes pic
lmao

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>>87411887
Because you're the only one who's too retarded to realize his hat was grazed by a bullet. You're dumb as fuck. Like, fucking stupid dumb. You should just kill yourself and save you and the rest of the world a lot of pain and frustration.

Something that upsets me is that I've never understood the symbolism with the horse in the show. Not the original and not now either.

It plays a big role symbolically, but what does it symbolize?

>The horse is the white of the eye and the dark within

>>87411961
She's a bad person

>>87411961
Because she was a shown as a one-dimensional bitch, and half of the people who watched TP came from watching soap operas.

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BOYS!

I'M BACK! AND I... I'M...

HUNGRY FOR SOME BROWN SUGAR!

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What was up with the beeping box?

Also, I literally do not comprehend 18. It is so gay. Why did he put guns in the frying oil?

>>87411960
To be fair, he could easily play Bob if he wasn't already a character.

>>87412021
Hats and bullets don't work like that.

>>87411571
I saw leak set photos a couple months ago of Dougie in the desert with the mitchums

>it was all just a meme
Seriously fuck you Lynch and fuck you /tpg/

>>87412076
They do in farcial cartoons

which is very much what that sequence is

Should we have a one final "/tpg/ watches the entirety of twin peaks" marathon this weekend?

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>>87411960
>>87412097
Well shit.

>>87412076
Holy shit, just die you fuckhole.

>>87412123
Are you planning on streaming all the seasons or something?

>>87412046
Every Palmer has blue eyes as the plate seen later. They are "the dark within"

>>87412097
somebody post all the leaked photos

>>87412163
Not me, but maybe someone should.

>>87412203
someone do it and we all watch it together trying to comprehend the red herrings.

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>>87411696
somebody please fucking confirm they saw this too, i swear i'm not crazy

the dialogue from their last scene together would fit with said photo

There was some leaked photos in this thread
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/79982635/
>all those plebs in the past who hadn't seen S3 yet.

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>>87412168

>>87410922
>when you realize Lynch fans have to work THIS hard at making up ridiculous theories to keep themselves from facing the realization the show makes no sense

>>87411909

Nice. Very nice.

How about the infamous floor sweeping scene? Was that the original Jacques Renault behind the bar, who was never whacked on the head by Leland in the new timeline?

>>87411641
>you've moved that clock
>literally shifting time

WHAT YEAR IS IT?

>>87412046
In mythology they're associated with fertility, a saviour and lots of other things that frost and Lynch dug the symbology of

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>>87411887
Computer, could I see a hat wobble?

>>87412046
"A poem as lovely as a tree: As the night wind blows, the boughs move to and fro. The rustling, the magic rustling that brings on the dark dream. The dream of suffering and pain. Pain for the victim, pain for the inflicter of pain. A circle of pain, a circle of suffering. Woe to the ones who behold the pale horse."

>>87412263
The credits list him as a different Renault.

>>87412240
>All of the leaked photos have featured Maclachlan dressed up in weird clothes too, I wouldn't be surprised if this whole show is Dale Cooper's wacky murder adventures around the world.
Nearly.

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>>87412231
Why did Lynch cuck Bobby so hard?

>>87412061
I reckon it was some way of contacting Jefferies without having to go to his kettle room above the convenience store.

>>87412240
>80001103
>There's people saying that this new season only has one episode with Coop in it, but I reckon it's the opposite, there'll only be one episode that has the rest of the cast in it.
Based.

>>87412061
Guns in the fryer--absurd, anarchic Mr C behaviour. Richard (the character that Maclachlin is playing in those scenes) is a mix of coop and mr c traits.

>>87412245
Yeah, and the horse is "the white of the eye", don't know how, but it might have something to do with white lodge, and that there is still some good in Palmers.

why are we pretending to like the ending?

>>87412421
Because we're not faggots

>>87412421
>we

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>>87412421
Because it doesn't have to be a happy ending to be a good one.

>>87412046
It's literally just Lynch ripping off Magritte. There's no symbolism.

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>>87412240
>people still loved Audrey then
;_;
why did it become popular to bully her?

>>87412454
say what now

>>87412061
Because it's a dream. People do silly things that make no logical sense in dreams.

>>87412421
It's god tier kino

>>87412421
>pretending

>>87412478
She's a fucking nutjob. Have you seen her twitter?

>>87412103
>dream

>>87412421
pleb filter ending

>>87412478
Sexual contact with a coma patient hits some strange nerve with the types who frequent 4chan.

>>87412421
Because we're redditors and we have to "get it" in order to indicate to others that we're highly civilized intellectual gentlemen

>>87411067
That's pretty fucking cool, makes more sense how Bob could manifest so easily as himself in the Palmer household

>>87412509
People have known about her twitter and her being a bit nuts for ages tho, that's not an excuse.

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Jacques' scenes are from timeline where Laura lives, therefore he is not killed.

you faggots with your pet theories about what the ending means are twisting things to fit your theory

>>87412123
it would be yrev very good to see you all again, old friends

>>87412421
Because otherwise if would have to admit that i wasted 18 hours on this.

>>87412574
u joking right?

>>87411960
>Harry Dean Stanton was playing an older BOB
this would have been amazing

>>87412168
holy shit the horse must symbolize denial.

Sarah sees the white horse before she passes out, she knows what is happening in their house but refuses to accept it. Cooper looks at the white horse after he sees the corpse, he knows on some level that what he's doing is wrong, that he can't fix this but he refuses to acknowledge it.

Cooper also sees the horse in the lodge immediately after Laura whispers into his ear and he looks shocked, he was not ready to hear what she had to say, sees the horse and goes back to starting positions.

as in he actually does go back to starting positions, he jumps back to MIKE sitting suspended in animation about to tell him the very same thing he told him already "Is it future.. or is it past"

>>87412577
They have to find some way to lie to themselves about the show being good, otherwise their cult of personality surrounding Lynch no longer makes them look like le tasteful intellectual elites.

>>87412574
That's not Jacques though.

I decided to watch this as a movie like Lynch inteded. I couldn't watch the finale with you guys, it took me three days to catch up this way so I just watched the finale.

Holy fuck, that ending really wasn't anything like I ever expected, and I presume that some you must have been disappointed but the fact that Lynch still finds ways to surprise me and defy every set of rule known to man, shit, in a way this is really the perfect ending, even if it left me confused as hell.

Thanks /tpg/ for everything, You guys have been great and I hope you enjoyed the finale as much as I did because holy fuck that was a rollercoaster. This will go down as one of my favorite shows of all time.

>>87412620
No, I'm dead serious. This also explains the literally same scene with Nadine and non chronological storytelling.

>>87412478
What hath time wrought?

>>87412061
The cowboys were just another obstacle Judy put there to keep him from finding her.

>praising everything lynch shits out

really?

>>87412649
the white horse is Judy

>>87412683
jacoby would still be a practicing psychiatrist if the laura murder investigation never happened

>>87412535

Judy was also in Sarah though. I prefer to think of the whole place being haunted or protected by Judy along with other spirits, to preserve the original timeline where Laura died etc so that she could infect Sarah who would be succeptable to a force of pure negativity that would find her grief a decent host.

Is that the most bone chilling scream ever?

>>87412756
Bob a metaphor for abuse
Judy a metaphor for denial

?

>>87411280
yeah I was wondering why Hawk was acting like a retard.

after all, he's the one who knows what the lodge is and he had that crazy indian map. why doesn't he understand?

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>>87412743
Really.

>>87412061

Typical liberal, doesn't even eat deepfried guns

http://twinpeaksgazette.com/2017/07/26/the-messy-timeline-of-the-return/

This guy knew what was going on in July.

someone explain the ending for a pleb

>>87412760
sarah is infected by the jumping man. judy is the house. when cooper and mike go to see jefferies the jumping man runs away and sarah begins to destroy lauras picture in defeat. whe laura wakes up as carrie the lights go out on the house symbolising judys defeat

>>87412743
His films are filled with shit, but somehow you start thinking about them after you watch them.
Also, personally I don't praise his active storytelling, I'm more interested (and surprised) how much subconscious stuff comes out, he's a pretty rotten individual.

I'm still depressed tpg

>>87412833
big disappointment that his scenes don't amount to much. Or most of the sheriff scenes in general. I keep on hoping there are some deleted scenes that make the subplots feel a little bit more weighty and meaningful, rather than non-sequitirs.

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Texan here how do I find this and make her my GF

>tfw frost actually did intend all of these cheeseball sci fi tv alternate timeline elements while lynch worked to subvert them as much as possible

>>87411327
she created him. he's a tupla.

>>87412758

Hmmm, but if she just went missing he would definitely have gotten grilled by the police (presumably not the FBI?) and been under some suspicion .. Maybe more suspicion than if she was murdered...

>>87412957
Maybe your grandma has some friends?

>>87412857
Postmodernists and surrealists aren't skilled enough to produce legible and meaningful endings, so they pretend not producing them is 2deep4u.

>>87412833
Because it's a dream. The scene in the sheriff's office didn't happen and it wasn't the real Hawk.

>Eddie Vedder practices TM
It all makes sense now.

What to watch after Twin Peaks fried my brain?

>>87412736

I don't get this thing of Judy being all powerful negativity having some hick cowboys as her guard dogs to what is the most precious force to her (the horror and garmonbozia of the Palmer house)

I just love how Lynch/frost made Laura's scream (that came out of Carrie), the moment the original tortured dead soul of Laura thundered thru the myriad of worlds to that one to scream in the face of Judy who resided at or was the Palmer house, how they made that scream the most powerful weapon in the cosmos

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but who was little girl who got a bug in the throat?

i get that the bug was some sort of vehicle for JUDY, but who did the little girl grow up to be?

>>87411931
WHOOOOOO BUILD THIS HEART

Episodes 1-16 are 50% red herrings/storylines that will never be resolved

All rewatch value is ruined by 17 and 18

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GORDON!

>>87412998
he's apparently a friend of Laura Dern

How did Cooper know that Laura (Carrie) works at Judy's?

>>87413036
This
Felt like a waste of time

>>87411204
>>87411436
she's upset because she got the least screentime of any of the roadhouse performers, not because she was dubbed. her reaction's a little over-the-top, but i think it's a fair grievance desu.

>>87413033
Sarah, it was all her fault and she knew it and couldn't help it.

>>87412939
same

I watched the finale on monday and I've been depressed ever since

I knew the series ending would mess me up but I didn't realize how badly it would

>>87412874

Jumping Man is just a little imp who works for Judy

>>87413047

nice

>>87412957
go to the nearest wal-mart or other trashy place full of poor people.

>>87413033
SARAH

>>87413033
It was Sarah. If you watch closely, you can see that the bug has the spiky nose similar to the one Jumping Man has.

ACTUALLY

Cooper and his time travel is the reason why Laura got killed

Discuss.

>>87412992
how do you figure?

>>87413088
which is why he ran like a scared bitch when coop and mike showed up

why did lynch make it so bleak

>>87413119
He didn't time travel.

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>>87412970
Do you think he told Frost that he'd superimpose Cooper's face on the screen after it was over, or did Frost believe this was a straight shot climax.

>>87413127
not him but cooper's face over the scenes maybe? could make sense

>>87413077
>>87413109
>>87413119
this is what i thought but then why is Sarah so terrified of BOB and the pale horse?

>>87413057
He realized that we live inside the dream of the lodge spirits. When he saw the sign, he knew he'd find Laura/Carrie there.

>>87413159
Because that's his thing?

>>87413160
What did he do then?

>>87412478
She became a religious nutjob, insulted Lynch and Showtime shortly after production, and her looks are gone much worse than the other female cast when she was the main sex appea character. She basically stripped herself of any redeeming qualities.

>>87413164
the face symbolizes him finally realizing that "reality" is just the dream of the lodge spirits

the Hawk in that scene is the same one as the previous scenes

>Literally no point to Audrey's scenes

lol

>>87413199
He went back in Laura's memories.

>>87413207
I'm not talking about the actress tho. I'm talking about the character.

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>>87412478
;_____;

>>87412957
I'm also from Texas, most women over 25 look 10x worse than that fifty year old woman

So the answer is we're fucked

>>87413159
Because he wanted us to endlessly speculate about the end forever while he sits back and collects garmonbozia

The reality is that everything about the finale is so vague and esoteric that nothing can prove or disprove any theory you might have about it. There is no answer besides what you personally believe, and there's no way to prove it.

>>87411623
why did he have to leave? why couldn't he just stay there after glove lad btfo'd bob and live the rest of his life? why return to all that lodge shit? he was finally free and in the company of all his old friends.

;_;

>>87413161
I believe it was an editing mistake that Lynch thought was some cosmic sign so he ran with it.

>>87413233
They were too deep to you anon.

Missing Memes when?

>>87413233
There is a point. A dreamer in white, maybe horse? But words are not enough.

Listen up guys, on closer examination I've realized that this Dougie Jones character is played by the same actor that played FBI agent Dale Cooper in the original series.

>>87413166
She's either reminded of the horror, or she's weaker than BOB.

THE FIRST 16 EPS WERE FILLER
LMAO

>>87413057
He doesn't at that point. He's a detective, he follows the clues.

Also, and I feel nobody is discussing this enough, that isn't cooper. It's Richard. A terrible mix of cooper and mr c. I think this is pretty significant

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>>87413290
wait
WHAT ???

>>87413207
>>87413252
as you can see, anons project their loathing towards women on any and all Twin Peaks characters.

>>87413290
It's CGI.

>>87413290
holy fuck

>>87413252
Oh. I guess just that she was largely useless this season, all she did was further the dream metaphor which had other allusions to it throughout the season anyway. And she was kind of cunty to Charlie and openly cheating on him

>>87413290
you know that gets me thinking, I'm like 50% sure that the guy who plays Mr. C also plays Dale Cooper

what did Lynch mean by this?

>>87413272
i understand cell phones now!

>>87413290
big if true

Lynch fucked up with the return and you all know it

>>87413233
i imagine it was meant to show that the roadhouse is not a real place. billy is billy zane and she is mixing reality with fiction like gordon does also

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God I loved making webms of this show

>>87413331
But I love Madchen/Shelly and Sheryl/Laura and they're both rotten as characters.

>>87413308
no its not. it is being discussed. its cooper. he's technically richard in that world but its all cooper.

>>87413285
>tfw there is an episode that concludes literally all of the plot threads, but it got replaced by 2deep4u part 18 at the last moment

t-thanks lynch

>>87413290
>>87413351
MIND=WOWBOBWOW

>>87413036

This might seem that way to you since it's not literally going to solve any loose ends in reality but If it is true it's some comfort that Lynch uses his dream worlds as places to express and examine his characters desires and fears which are important if you're ever going to understand who they are and why they do what they are doing.

>>87413127
The superimposed face appears after Cooper sees Naido - the one character who seemingly has no reason to be there and Coop can't explain how she got there.

Cooper looks at the clock - the clock is stuck in a position that doesn't make sense (minute hand says it's 10 minutes to, but hour hand is past three) - after this he says "we live inside a dream" and the scene dissolves.

I also think the "universe" with Richard and Carrie is another dream. After Coop/Richard walks out of the motel he sees the exterior and car are different than the ones he saw when he entered. But the interior of the motel was the same. That shit only happens in dreams. He seems confused for a second but then just continues on his way, as if he just accepts nothing is real by this point.

>>87413349
>all she did was further the dream metaphor which had other allusions to it throughout the season anyway
ha ha come on man, come off it. By that logic every character besides Laura and Cooper were pointless. Which, whoa, are we talking about ep18 here???

Audrey's subplot was the entire season shrunk to the scale of two people/a personal drama.

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>>87413290
You're one of those retards who thinks this looks like Laura too even though she's 25 years old huh? Fucking dumbass

>>87413398
why was he so sleepy

>>87413391
End yourself normie

Who sent the guy with the Uzi???

>>87413391
he didn't mess up until the finale.

shifting the conflict from cooper v cooper to laura v judy at the last second was a HUGE mistake

>>87413409
>there is an episode that concludes literally all of the plot threads
HATE TO BREAK IT TO YOU, MARK, BUT I WASN'T RUNNING THE CAMERAS.

>>87413057
He's hip to Judy's bullshit.

>>87413024
I feel like she was powerful and able to manipulate the world to an extent, but she was far from all powerful and was vulnerable there. She was able to prepare obstacles for them, but couldn't just telepathically snap their necks or anything like that.

>it never snows in twin peaks

>>87411355
Huh??

I can't even properly explain how I feel after watching it. More than anything, I'm unsure about how it's going to affect my next re-watch of the original series. It's rattled me to the core. Despite the subject matter, I always felt warm and comfortable watching it. S3 may have turned all of that on its head.

Well done, Lynch. And I'm not even being sarcastic about that.

>>87412421
Because people feel the need to defend the media they consume for some reason. You can't be indifferent, you have to either love it or hate it.

Oh, and because anything Lynch makes is god tier. Some pretentious artfags told me so.

Mr. Lynch, please return me the 16 hours of my life wasted watching this scenes collection with no sense at all. Hope you will never film anything else. At all. Ever. All 18 episodes are complete garbage. None of the bizarre plot lines is closed. For first couple episodes it seems like a new type of art you yet can't understand, but this crappy "art" continues till episode 18 end doesn't end.

>>87413308
He's both. He still introduces himself as Cooper.

>>87413233
It gave us the best character in the show, AKA Sleepy "get your fucking coat on" Charlie

>>87413449
>Laura Palmer?

Lol was Cooper blind? She's way too old to be Laura.

COAT IS COMING OFF

Did Cooper know about Judy in/as the Palmer's house?

>>87413036
>He didn't appreciate the scenes for what they were
Holy fuck get off this board.

>>87413521
spoiler lynched spoiler

>start rewatching S3 to see what kind of details I missed the first time
>by episode 4 I realized how much of this amounts to nothing and haven't been able to continue

I know it's the journey, not the destination, but the amount left hanging makes me feel like I'm wasting my time. I can't be the only one

>>87413511
>>87413521
lmao

>>87413036
I feel like this is the biggest flaw with The Return. It's just not as rewatchable as the original run.

>>87413521
die

>>87410922
People not getting that Audrey was actually Laura.
>keeps mentioning billy
>billy is lost
>when laura talks to coop she says, "did you find him?"
>audrey has a hate for her husband charlie...strangles him
>laura kills the man in her home...is he charlie

>>87413569
relax pleb it was all kino, I'm not disputing that

but it's hard to have any sort of emotional investment in scenes that I KNOW will not affect anything and in the end don't even matter

hence, the rewatch value ruined

>>87413399
only because they are still attractive. If Madchen was a little more haggard I bet you the only thing anons would say is "coal-burning slut with nigger daughter" or the usual /tv/ shit-attempt-at-humor drivel.

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>>87413521
That's just not right.
Episodes 1, 2, 8 and 12 are great.
I fully expect you can merge them into a movie that makes sense.

fucking plebs
read some gnostic texts and you will understand the meaning of Judy.

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>>87413521

tfw miguel Ferrer is kill
I didnt know
Now I really want to die
Why did Lynch let him die

>>87413511

It is now canon that none of the events shown in Season 1 or Season 2 took place. In fact, most of the events shown in Season 3 didn't happen either. However, most of the events in FWWM did happen.

>>87413233
Lynch could have not had her at all, seeing as she was even more pointless than in S2.

And yet Sherilyn Fenn still complained and publicly shittalked him about it.

>>87413601
who is laura? are we talking about the house?

>>87413127
Hawk's eyes and other characters in scenes in episodes blink backwards, the same as those in the Black and white Lodges. It's a subtle hint it's all a dream created by the lodge to make Cooper think he's saving the day, meanwhile he never left.

>>87413576
this, I started rewatching it right before the finale but I haven't been able to bring myself to keep going

The Return is something you can only really watch once, being strung along thinking everything is going to lead to something, when in the end basically nothing mattered except for just a few things

is this how LOSTfags felt?

What is the significance of the triplets?

Three cowboys
Three Las Vegas cops
Three ladies in pink

etc.

>>87413532
Yes, and she told him that her name was Carrie.
I guess he just didn't "get" it.

This season has no replay value

FOR THE LAST TIME
FOR THE LAST TIME

>>87413601
Is this the story of the little girl who lived down the lane?

>>87413601
thats actually an interesting theory anon

>>87413531
this

>>87413471
>he didn't mess up until the finale.
No yeah, 2 and a half minutes of some dude sweeping a floor and almost 2 full minutes of some broad putter her shoes & jacket on and then leaving a room was total kino.

The decision to have a brand new literal who with the worst British accent ever to banish Bob with a magic gardening glove? Genius.

The state of the art effects like Laura Dern's shoulders shaking and her chest expanding between two frames? I applauded.

Lynch is an overrated hack

>>87413631
>Fenn never shittalked Lynch but /tv/ still believes it because of some vague twitter posts she made
amazing

>>87413631
lol are you obsessed with actor gossip drama? Why do you care what Lynch, Fenn, or Cruise said at one point in time? Does it matter that she changed her mind?

You seem to close the book on people way too soon. That's why I don't get hung up on that stuff.

>>87413607
this, fenn's calling card was being the sexy one and now she doesn't even have that. Not that she's a shit actress but she's not nearly as good as the better ones like Dern or Lee

>>87413207
She also voted for Trump

>>87413620
gnosticism was the fedora religion before atheism was mainstream

get out of here with that pleb garbage

What to watch now?

>>87413607
I'm 99% certain Madchen has had some plastic surgery but I think the anons here are so used to LFB's monstrosity that no one acknowlodges it

>>87413683
>cherry picking
plen

>>87413665
>Not enjoying the scenes as self-contained kino masterworks

lol

>>87413683
>worst British accent ever

It's a London geezer accent and he did it well. Not only are you a pleb, you're also thick as pig shit.

>>87413721
Kyle looks like he's has some plastic surgery too desu

>>87413709
Young pope, Wild Palms, nothing

>>87413721
So has Peggy Lipton, which proves there's a right way of doing things and a very, very wrong way. Moderation is key.

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>>87413576
S3 was unparalleled to anything I've watched week to week in terms of hype, even more so that BB or Lost. But yeah, unfortunately the rewatch value is kinda ruined which sucks

>>87413721
it's not very noticeable desu

>>87413709
A show not by a a hack

>>87413728
lynch dick rider

>>87413709
Twin Peaks, until Season 4 starts.

>>87413709
Twin Peaks again, obviously.

>>87413740
No he doesn't. His face is sunken looking in some scenes, like someone who's 58 would look like.

>>87413511

As much as the final moments of the show are my favourite moment in cinema/tv all year because of the build up then release of utter existential dread and confusion, I just cannot fully get on board with Lynch saying the whole show was a dream. It must have started being a dream at some point, possibly when mr c is injected into the screen? It's hard to say but it reminds me of another Lynch film where there is a big long dream element hat is purposefully a mystery but does have a clear cut moment when the dream ends.

The Return was an experience, I honestly don't even know if I'll ever want to watch it again, knowing what happens in the end.

>>87411093
this pasta needs some work my dude.

the only part I'd rewatch is 8

>>87413743
>>87413751
I'm fine with it, a small anount is what works best honestly. Where it becomes terrible and pathetic is an LFB amount. It's more about the fact of when anons talk about who in the cast aged the best it's weird to say they did when the reason is they literally paid to reverse said aging

>>87413795
you're misinterpreting the dream thing.

what Cooper and Jeffries realized was that our reality is the dream of the lodge spirits.

it's not a dream that one of the characters are having, it all really happened.

>>87413740
I think it's just how jet black his hair was dyed for this season makes him look a bit off. Kyle with salt and pepper like IRL/Portlandia looks great, dunno why they dyed him for S3

I loved the first Twin Peaks and give it a 9 out of 10. It was groundbreaking, surreal and completely captivating. I was extremely excited about this new series and have tried to give it a chance during every episode I have watched, but it is simply terrible, unwatchable and has ZERO plot.

I literally have never watched something that has less intrigue or less point. It rambles on and on and on and on....boring. David Lynch should spend more time working on storytelling and less time meditating, because his storytelling skills have taken a huge dive.

Twin Peaks: The Return was basically a televised Youtube Poop.

>you've already met Judy
But had he??

>both Ulysses and the Return have eighteen episodes

>>87413867

He talked to her on the phone in episode 2

>>87413867
dark force

>>87413660
All good things comes in 3s

>>87413856
well the lodge scene in 17 looked like a Newgrounds flash game

Plebs you haven't got beyond the superficial experience by TM will never get S3
Just kill yourselves already

>>87413657
Lost was bad because it thematically betrayed itself by the end. It was always about the tension between science/faith, logic/heart etc and it fucked up because it came down on one side definitively because Carlton cuse didn't want to disappoint his nice Christian mother.

At least TP maintained its dignity in being stubbornly obtuse, which turned out to be massively thematically appropriate.

>>87413795
>It must have started being a dream at some point

When Dale got into the lodge.

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>just finish when Leland dies and everything will be fine
>the rest of the show never happens
>Coop doesn't end up in the shit

Oh god, I can't handle this.

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rewatching season 3 i think episode 1 and 2 are both amazing

>>87412046
>>87412168

Carrie Page is also wearing a horseshoe necklace. It's also upside down which is supposedly bad luck

>>87413883
Laura's texas town is called odessa
Really makes you think, huh
Is Coop the postmodern Odysseus?

>>87413660
It was a dream

Cooper is Orpheus

NEW

>>87413964
>>87413964
>>87413964

>>87413867
He's met Sarah before

>>87413956
the episodes with the most objective kino:
>1
>2
>3
>6
>8
>18

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>>87413956
this. anyone complaining about it not being rewatchable is a pleb. besides the inherent kino value, there are threads carried through all 18 episodes that you forget about when you only watch an hour a week for a few months. I just rewatched 1&2 and noticed how Laura has pure brilliant light behind her face after coop says

"But Laura Palmer is dead"

and she says

"I am dead. And yet I live"

just like Sarah has the staticy darkness of the black lodge when she takes off her face in the same way.

>>87413601
>>87413677

I believe this is correct

I also believe Audrey in the Return to be a meta-criticique of an overly nostalgic, narcissistic, and projecting fandom (the mirror). The last line "What year is it?" could also be taken as a meta self-reference

>>87413967
There are horseshoes in judy's diner too

>>87414116
I mean, you're probably very stupid for not remembering that.

>>87411067
>happyending fags are this delusional
at least vedderfags knew they were memeing for giggles

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>>87413290

>>87413940
Frankly I don't mind the ending being ambiguous as fuck because I imagine any ending that gave definite answers that made sense would have just made me angry. Twin Peaks is about the impenetrable mystery.

I think the real purpose of the finale is to show you how bizarre and nonsensical otherworldly things would really be. It's somethign outside of our rules of reality so who is to say that you can even apply our rules to it. Maybe some completely incomprehensible long waged war between two otherworldly spirits was concluded with the finale and Cooper and possibly Laura were just pawns in it all.

>>87413683
Is it weird that I thought literally all of that was kino?

>>87413739
>and he did it well
Sitting here, in south London, as someone who talks to a lot of builders and other "geezers", I agree that is was the worst
British accent I've ever heard. Other than Tracer's, maybe.

>>87414308
He is actually british though.

>>87413709
Evangelion
Aka twin peaks the anime

>>87413064
Eh, people will always complain. She was given time in one of the most important episodes, next episode didn't even have the roadhouse part. Was really happy to see her in that episode.

>>87414351
So is Tracer's VA. Doesn't matter if your director tells you to stick a fucking pork pie in your mouth while delivering your lines. Natural brit isn't brit enough for American audiences, because no one sounds like that any more.

>>87414134
Well...Audrey is saying in the mirror.....what what?

How do we know it isnt audrey laura coming to the actualization that she is not herself.

.....

I think audrey is laura....so we do see what happens with her. Real audrey blew up years ago.

I think this is an interesting theory.

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>>87413116
>>87411828

mind's getting blown here

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>>87410922
RETURN AUDREY WAS ACTUALLY LAURA

SPREAD THIS!

lala david lerch