/tpg/ - Twin Peaks General

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take the red pill:
>no set design, feels empty and lifeless
>no interesting ideas for storylines and generally bad writing
>relies on gimmicks only instead
>those are unoriginal or just bad, unfortunately ("fuck you, albert", glove, andy and lucy, coordinates, riddles, ...)
>bad acting (Bell, Lynch, Horse, Robertson, Dern, ...)
>dull characters (one-dimensional at best)
>storylines and characters are introduced for no purpose
>everything is supposed to weirdly connect and make sense
>shot in digital in a way that doesn't compensate for the technology's disadvantages (looks bad)
>roadhouse scenes (out of place, badly shot, the songs, the bands, the extras, ...)
>student-tier storytelling/editing (characters are shown walking up complete sets of stairs)
>stretched out needlessly, long takes have no particular effect
>obviously delusional and/or inexperienced fanbase perceiving it as particularly meaningful, complex or "deep"
>can't compare to the original series that doesn't have those problems (coherent/complex and beautiful sets, costumes and make-up/well shot/well acted/well written/magnificent multi-dimensional characters and character relations, music, storylines and gimmicks/creates a unique athmosphere as a result, changing the world of television forever whereas "the return" neither manages to do something established really good nor to invent something new)
>extended pitch black scenes because of a lack of a competent cinematographer
>audio issues with microphone static left unaddressed because of poor sound design
>extremely poor editing with magically disappearing extras and production staff accidentally walking into frame
>somehow the best thing in tv history

>>87381793
>first 50 posts always the same lol

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>>87381793
Part 17: The ending of The Return
Part 18: Season 4 prologue

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>bad Coop beating the guy with the gun in part 1
>bad Coop distracting Richard by spitting, then disarming him in part 15
>Coop(?) distracting the cowboy then disarming him in part 18
Someone please make a webm of this

Catch you with my death bag

I haven't watched the original run in awhile so bear with me. What were the owls all about? Why were they not what they seemed?

youve gone soft in your old age

penis still hard

>>87381813

>tfw you replaced "1st for jumping man" guy

>>87381912
I mean if we knew the show was coming back for sure, I'd maybe have been more okay with Part 18.

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>>87381793
How can a piece of hair contain not just genetic makeup, but also information about the clothes the person should wear, and the haircut the doppelganger should have, and the hair product they should have in it? You'd think that there'd be some scientific basis for there needing to be genetic material, but then it goes out the window with him materializing with a suit and slicked hair. Why didn't Lynch just make him appear naked?

Episodes 17 and 18 are good episodes and individual pieces of Lynch kino, but they are not a good conclusion to The Return or Twin Peaks in general.

Episodes 1-16 are rendered utterly pointless by the Mulholland Dr.-esque ending. Except, in Mulholland Dr, the fake reality we had witnessed actually mattered, it gave us an insight into the mental state of our main character. In The Return, the ending renders everything before it null and void, nothing really mattered at all except for one or two plot threads.

Red?
Becky and Steven?
Briggs' body?

All pointless, among others.

Lynch and Frost just couldn't resist making the story about Laura again, even if it sacrificed everything they had been building.

Call me a pleb all you want, I loved the whole thing. I just think the ending wasn't satisfying, even if the finale episodes are good by themselves.

>>87381912
I like it better when Part 18 is the end and there is no season 4.

>>87381963
THIS. What kind of sci fi show IS this?

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This is what happens in Season 1 until episode 17 of The Return

All the weird loose threads left over represent what Cooper could have investigated if he had stayed after the defeat of bubbleBob. The vomit kid, sick jail cell guy, the drugs, even Audrey to an extent, were all things that could be viewed as story hooks for season four. But Cooper couldn't let go of the past, he had to save Laura, and now he's trapped with no way to help the real problems of the present.

>>87381918
Richard/Coop after the shift is a lot like Mr. C. From emotionless sex to obtaining coordinates, he's more Mr. C than OG Dale ever was.

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>tfw trying to understand JUDY tricked me into reading east asian philosophy
This whole show is just a scam to slowly redpill people into drinking coffee and joining TM

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Guys:

>Ben Horne suffers a psychotic delusion, and thinks he is another person
>Wakes up, and becomes a better person

>Audrey suffers a psychotic delusion, and thinks she is another person
>Wakes up ...

She's gunna be all right lads

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>>87381793
MILF SHERYL FANS REPORT IN

http://uproxx.com/sepinwall/twin-peaks-the-return-parts-17-18-finale-recap-review/
Read this if you need some rage fuel in your life. Too much TV can make you clinically retarded- this is most apparent in TV reviewers.
>the way in which the concluding sequence unfolded — both the driving sequence that put the old Black Lodge curtains scene to shame for how long it kept going and going and going, and then Cooper’s utter bafflement at meeting Alice Tremond — sucked away most of my emotional investment in the story, and made the whole thing feel like a set-up for a fourth season

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>>87382008

This is what happens after episode 17 of The Return

>>87382064

>he doesn't TM

lel

>>87381992
Finale episodes makes the whole season even more rewatchable. Especially episodes 1-3.

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>>87382077
she's perfect

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Remainder that if you haven't seen the entirety of Lynch's filmography, you're a bandwagoner and have no place criticizing.

>>87381912
18 is an epilogue. There's never going to be a season 4.

why was diane a blind chink

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/twin-peaks-kyle-maclachlan-finale-1202547022/

>Kyle MacLachlan interpreted Richard as a distinct character, explaining: "The way it was described to me, [Richard is] just a little harder. So it was another variation, sort of a subtle variation obviously, compared to [impaired Cooper and the doppelganger], but a subtle variation of Cooper. And so that was that last hour, watching him navigate that."

COOPER ALSO GOT REPLACED

>>87382013
This

Cooper's fatal flaw is that he refuses to let go of Laura, and ends up sacrificing all of reality and getting lost himself.

>>87381793
Is The Missing Pieces worth buying? I wanted to get the Criterion release of FWWM.

>>87382093
>tfw there are no teachers around me and the official site says that the only way is to actually have a real life teacher

>>87381939
I don't think its ever been explained. It may have implied that spirits like Bob can inhabit them.

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Is Mrs. Chalfont Judy? Whose side is she on? When she told Donna that she didn't like creamed corn, was she saying she doesn't eat garmonbozia, or did she mean that she doesn't eat creamed corn because it isn't REAL garmonbozia?

>>87382072
I just realized Bens plot never went anywhere. Why even bother us showing that secretaries midget cripple husband? I thought Ben would fuck up and go back to his vices but nothing happened.

>>87382128
I'm more interested to know why she was a clown.

>>87382127
Depends on how bad Lynch wants to fuck Frost's new book over, which, I could see him doing with a shorter series.

>>87381888
Spin-off sitcom incoming

>Janey-e sees Diane having lunch with Coop and kissing him
>she gets angry and jealous, hijinx ensue
>Diane has sex with Dougie thinking it's Coop
>Sonny Jim has to choose which one to shoot because only one is his real dad

>>87382082
Reality gets erased

ERASERHEAD

bravo lynch

>>87382006
Not an argument.
>narrative paints hair as important
>logic dictates because of generic material
>it turns out to be contrived shit, like Dougie getting electrocuted somehow via the neutral socket

>>87382148
Just DL a torrent of it, it's got fun scenes but not really worth paying full film price for it

>>87381813
B T F O
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>"Here, Laura, I'll save you from death so that you can be systematically raped by your father again"
>"Oops I accidentally the whole world"
>"You know what'll fix everything? If I take you back to your demon possessed mother that you have no memory of because you've been transformed into a completely different person"
>"What year is it?"

What did he mean by this?

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>>87382183
You reminded me of this.

>>87382161
Yep his plot and Jerry's go absolutely nowhere.

Jerry witnesses Richard dying for literally no reason. It has no effect on anything or anyone.

>>87382215
We, the audience, know that Sarah is possessed, but Coop doesn't.

>>87382151
>official site
>that makes money from teachers

>says you can only use teachers

Hmmmmmmm

>>>>87381888
There's no proof Tulpa Diane wasn't lying about Janey-E being her sister.

>>87382047
Cooper here looks like he's wearing a skirt. And his chest looks big, too

>Jiao De Ching
In Tao the only motion is returning.
The only useful quality, weakness.
For though all creatures under heaven are the products of Being,
Being itself is the product of Not-being.

>>87382179
Lynch doesn't care nearly as much about Twin Peaks as Frost does. Lynch only really came back because of the 25 years later line, which he thought was pretty cool. He just wanted to make some new shit and Twin Peaks just happened to coincide.

>>87381912
i hope there is a season 4. they haven't exactly closed off all potential for it.
if there's not the ending, such as it is, is extremely bleak and existential

where are you guys getting this alternate reality shit from

it feels like a giant leap in logic to assume that the timeline was erased or something like that

>>87382215
Cooper is a literal retard who did EVERYTHING wrong

I unironically think Mr. C was the protagonist of The Return, I was sad to see him go

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>>87382077
THICC
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>>87382278
why was there a dead dude on her couch

>>87382121
I've only seen FWWM and I'm a huge fan of Lynch's work

fight me

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Has anyone else screencapped some of the good posts/thoughts from /tpg/

>>87382290
He got mouthy

>A drunk octopus wants to fight
What did Lynch (he has a writing credit on Out of Sand, its been confirmed) mean by this?

>>87382137
>variation
>replaced

You don't understand how words work

>>87382290
>he doesn't have a dead dude on his couch
millenials.

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>>87382291
>I'm a huge fan of Lynch's work
>I've only seen FWWM
Pick one, you goddamn pleb. You're literally a bandwagoner, just hopping on the Twin Peaks hype.

>>87381813
>michael horse
>bad acting

i know its bait but that part still makes me mad wtf

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So in account of the events of ep18 they never met and therefore never formed a friendship, right? Harry came into existence in a new reality with a new name and identity and no recollection of Coop having ever existed.

They were never bros? ;_;

>>87382248
How would she know who Janey-e is, let alone who her Husband is.

The tulpa is created with the memories of the person created, therefore Diane has memories of her sister.

>>87382359
Nothing personal, Michael. Also, it's not bait.

>>87382343
>watched twin peaks when it aired
>haven't watched any of Lynch's other works
>guess I'm a bandwagoner somehow

>>87382343
I picked both, pay attention.

I bet I know more about the plots and narratives of his movies more than you.

>>87382399
Unless Mr. C told her to tell the FBI that Janey-E was her sister.

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>>87382306
Yep

>>87381813
This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This. This.

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>>87382161
Literally none of the plots go anywhere. It's all just pointless padding.

>Shelley and her kid, story just dropped
>Audrey, pointless
>Red, story just dropped
>Jerry, pointless
>Richard Horne, one of the new characters that got the most screen time, ends up being completely pointless
>Beverly Paige and her husband, just dropped
>all the scenes people spend looking Cooper, pointless because Dougie just electrocutes himself wakes up
>Tammy, completely pointless character
>one one nine girl, dropped

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>>87382127
This. Lynch always said he wanted to make more mysteries than answers. The lodge stuff wasn't really mysterious or crazy anymore so he had to up the ante with the finale.

If we get another season or movie we won't get any "answers" for the finale. Just like FWWM.

Why did they bring back aubrey if they're not going to do shit with her storyline

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I'm still struggling to cope with this whole thing desu

Mr. c killed Dougie amd replaced him with a tulpa right?

>>87382399
Evil Cooper knows who Janey-E is.

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TAMMY, I WANT YOU TO MEET RUTH DAVENPORT, SHE WORKED WITH BILL ON THE BLUE ROSE CASE

How can we get David Lynch to direct Star Wars Episode 9

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>>87382435
>"I'm a huge fan of Lynch's work"
>hasn't watched any of lynch's films since despite it being 28 years
Yeah, my ass you watched Twin Peaks in its original run, you lying, sniveling bandwagoner.

>>87381813
I'm rewatching and starting to believe you're right.

>>87382035
He's DALE COOPER now, not Dale Cooper, and his vessel that he is inhabiting (the way MIKE inhabits Phillip Gerard) is Richard.

>>87382540
get laura dern in the cast

>>87382161
I feel like a lot of the stuff in there was just to show how Twin Peaks, and the people in it, had grown and changed over the years. Ben didn't have any plot relevance beyond giving Frank Cooper's key, and maybe the humming in the Great Northern too, but I don't know what that was all about, but he just had those scenes to show that he had grown up into a much more decent guy, and that's all there was to it, and I was fine with just seeing how some of these characters had changed overtime even if there wasn't much more to it. Don't know why the secretary had a crippled husband though.

>>87382008
>>87382082

So there's just one timeline?

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what was this scene about? if at this point he was still convinced that his plan to save laura would work why is there such dread and hopelessness on his across face?

>>87382290
she probably fucked him and killed him, Carrie Page is one bad dude

>>87382543
I watched TP a few years ago, before a revival was announced. I then watched FWWM, and film analysis about Lynch and his films.

I also have seen a lot of his paintings, music, and short films. I can promise I'm a bigger fan than you, and you probably jumped on a bandwagon yourself, which would explain your intense specific hatred for it.

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>>87382543
Oh ye? Here's a picture of my face to prove my age you cuck

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>>87382573
>Don't know why the secretary had a crippled husband though
What? This is the most important character in the show! The existence of his plotline is paramount- Oh...

>>87382290

he also has garmonbozia, on his stomach

>>87382556
Characters CONFIRMED to be reality/dimension/time breakers:

>Jeffries
>MIKE
>BOB
>Cooper
>Leland
>Laura
>Major Briggs
>The Fireman
>Judy
>Jumping man
>Annie
>Ms. Tremond
>Diane

Characters that could be:
>Sarah
>Audrey

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Would the Finale have been better if Laura Palmer came back as a boy instead of as a Texan?

>>87382161
As the other anon said, in terms of the plot, he exists solely to give Truman the key to room 315.*

Which is technically more plot-moving than all of Tammy, Gordon, and Albert.

*which uh, I think Dale could have just gone over and gotten normally?

>>87381899
It's so OP can add controversy and bait to this cringe of a general.

tfw cooper goes back to save laura so she can be in better movies and tv shows like she deserves

>>87382651
The accent kept throwing me off.

F A N W A N K
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>>87382592
He realized he's still in the lodge

Either that is a dream or he has a doppleganger/mental projection of himself

Things are off, besides his face being super-imposed. The clock is stuck at 2:53, he doesn't have his FBI pin, he sees an image of the waiting room. After this scene, when he goes to the Great Northern, he has his fbi pin again.

you're god damn right im still mad as fuck about the audrey plot not going anywhere.

>>87382159
When she delivered the missing page of Laura's diary to Cooper using her magical ability to replace the occupants and contents of a house, was she being a bad guy by helping him solve the mystery immediately?

>>87382633

I thought that guy was the key to everything. turned out it was pointless wow lynch wow

>>87382651
I want to fuck that boy.

Who's going to die before season 4 and what inanimate object will replace them?

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>she's gone, she's gone, she's gone away
>same episode as Mother reveal and implication of Sarah becoming her vessel

Is this song about Sarah? The Road House songs typical have a thematic link to their featured episode.

>>87382592
I don't know what it was about, but I liked it.

>>87382704
Just find God and a nice paycheck and you'll get over it just like Audrey's actress did

>>87382704
She's obviously the glove

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>>87382704

>>87382621
>I can promise I'm a bigger fan than you
Yes, the person who has not seen Lynch's significant work is a real "fan". Even if you actually believe so, your opinion is worthless. You simply cannot have an opinion on his work if you have actively refrained from it over the years. Hence, you're lying out of your teeth, for reasons I cannot tell, and are a bandwagoner by definition even if you claim otherwise.
>which would explain your intense specific hatred for it
You mean me calling you out for being the spewing bandwagoner you are? Now you're just resorting to fallacies - good job, moron!

>>8738265
It's worse than that. Dougie had the key originally

>>87382697
If that scene didn't really happen then how did Gordon and Diane appear at the Great Northern with him? Was BOB not destroyed by Glove Lad?

>>87382359
I have never seen him in anything else. In fact have never seen or heard him interviewed. That said, his delivery is a dead on Wide Indian trope that felt intentional and fun. So I'm happy with his acting or lack thereof if the result was the character of Hawk.

>>87382749
>Hawk is played by an actual Hawk
>Lucy is played by a ringing telephone
>Andy is a little kid wearing a cowboy outfit
>Lynch is a used pair of panties
Also James was always cool

So who made the original Dougie Jones? Why has Dougie only existed for about 12 years when Coop was gone for 25?

>>87381813
based hawk hater

>>87382306
>posting your own posts

>>87382633
Lycnh uses part of the characters life so we understand their motives, not as a plotline. There is no plot, only a note.
The diyng man help us understand why the secretary wants love in his boss
The dummy Candy to understand why the mitchum brothers are use to deal with slow mental people like dougiecoop.

>>87382836
Mr. C and BOB, you dunce

>>87382805
I've given evidence of my love of Lynch, all you've down is name-called and acted like a child

You're just a bandwagoner. Go shit up the /got/ general, sperg.

I loved the season and the ending, but there were definitely some things I didn't like.

>teapot Jeffries - just fucking recast him
>Chrysta Bell was awful
>Frank/no Harry
>it should have been shot on film for the sole reason that they used so much old footage for flashbacks and such
>Roadhouse booth scenes were pointless and added nothing

>>87382731
No joking, though - Lynch wasted time and money on getting that scene. And it was more than irrelevant, it was an offense to the viewer. Are we just supposed to forget and pretend like we didn't see anything?

>>87382578
No, the Secret History of Twin Peaks confirms multiple timelines

Is it worth using Reddit this Sunday so that I can ask Sabrina Sutherland if young Sheryl in the FWWM retcon scene was CGI'd or just had makeup?

>>87382756
Same. I thought it was really cool and chilling, but I haven't the foggiest as to what it means.

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Was he the dreamer?

>>87382573
>>87382654
Im fine with Ben just giving the key and having scenes that show how hes changed, but the secretaries husband was absolutely pointless

>>87382868
If it were my post, I'd have just copied and pasted it and not put up the pretense. Why would I have shame about that if I'm posting anonymously?

>>87382813
I think it did happen, just that Coop is now a Lodge spirit. Remember when he does the weird swirly thing with the red curtains? Also he hears MIKE normally, not like you would hear a lodge spirit talking to a normal person.

He was in the lodge, but acting in TP through either a tulpa or something else. And the Coop we see with Gordon and Diane brought them there with his abilities.

>>87382471
>Shelley's kid got shot. Shelley herself is still dating dangerous fuckwits.
>Audrey's dream is warping Twin Peaks in a very real way.
>Red pushes drugs through Twin Peaks and doesn't get caught
>Jerry demonstrates these drugs help the Black Lodge drive you insane.
>Richard Horne grew up, dates his secretary quite ernestly, now has to look after his broken family
>Beverly Paige is just one more victim of whatever is making everyone in Twin Peaks sick.
>I'll give you the last three points, though I'm sure once people let this series sit with them we'll get some theories about the 199 girl.

Unsatisfying conclusions are still conclusions my man. Purpose is prescribed, you just lack the imagination to do so.

>>87382879
>recast David Bowie
Oh honey, that's not how it works

>>87382873
That makes sense to me

>guy that made commercials for PS2 and coffee shit
>guy that gave in to product placement
>auteur

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>Cooper yells "GORDON!" in that same frightened tone as in FWWM'S Bowie scene

Did this spook anyone else?

>>87382941
I read that the scene of her screaming took three takes, imagine being those neighbors hearing that kek

>>87382914
No

What was the yellow shit that came out of the kid hit by a truck

>>87381992
Now you get it. Time and again I have to repeat this. If you don't love Laura you'll never, ever like Twin Peaks.

Protip, the ending has nothing to do with Mullholand Dr. Watch the first two episodes+ep8.

>>87382306
yeah i'm posting them on my tumblr on the twin peaks tag

>>87382621
Here comes the "I like Lynch better" shit that /tpg/ is known for.

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>>87382879
>Chrysta Bell was awful
kys famalam

>>87381813
Spot on.

>>87382914
Hold on, was he the guy in the jail?

>>87382949
Would have been better than turning him into a giant tea kettle with a horrible impersonator. Tim Roth should have played Jeffries, he was wasted on random hick henchman.

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>>87382877
>I've given evidence
You literally claim to have watched "film analysis" of his work in place of actually seeing the films for yourself - literally a bandwagoner. You're a pathetic embarrassment, and can only now resort to spewing fallacies when you're called out.

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>>87382978
>taking a picture of David Fucking Lynch using your FUCKING TELEPHONE

>>87382915
the husband was not pointless. Is there so we can undestand the fragility of the secretary life.
She is broken emotionally
Thats why she tempted Ben, and Ben rejected the tempation. He is a better men now and she is trapped in a shitty life

>>87382893

How? Then that meands there's not a Loop

>>87383015
oh shit

>WE LIVE INSIDE A DREAM

i've been thinking about this for days now and it's really fucking me up, like it's true. Call for help.

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dugpa dump incoming

>>87382995
Seems like all the youth in tp had some issue

>>87383061

WHO IS THE DREAMER

>>87383019
I really liked him as the random hick henchman, though.

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...WHAT THE HELL

>>87383009
She's hot, but literally every breath she made felt rehearsed. She's an awful actress.

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>>87383067

>>87383015
No

>>87383015
No, he fucking wasn't. They're not played by the same actor and don't look anything alike.

Reminder that there is no actual plot to The Return. It's just a dream with people living in it, moving forward and backward.

>>87383046
Okay

post chrysta bell webm

>>87383015

No, that's Johnny, Audrey's retarded brother.

>>87382013
I like this.

This is a good theory.

Take note, reddit.

>>87382976
So is he just going through the same things Jeffries did in fwwm now?

>>87382875
Why did they make Dougie Jones?

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>>87383112

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>muh time travels timelines muh fanwank theory XD
episode 18 turned twin peaks into the dr who fandom overnight

>>87383122
That jacket she has is awesome.

>>87382215
Turn's out Vedderfags were right. Cooper is still a retard.

>>87382752
Some of the songs remind me of other parts of the show. The song from episode 2 reminds me of Richard and evil coop.

I really hope Showtime say fuck no for another season and drop a turd on Lynch's face. Fucking asshole. The ratings must have been awful for the money they spent. Fuck these bullshit cliffhangers.

>>87383021
>watch film analysis
>become a huge fan
>don't watch the movies because I spoiled them for myself and pretty much watched the whole thing in the process
>consume his work because I enjoy him and his style

What wagon did I jump on? I didn't see that everyone loves TP and then start watching TP. You're literally just having an autistic fit without any reasoning. Go outside or something, stop jumping on the shitpost bandwagon.

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>>87383067
mfw this makes a surprising amount of sense.

>>87382820
rare bobe

>>87383021
Ignore him, He's just a shitposter. Hes not serious, no one here could be this dumb.

>>87382081
But she/he/it/xer/hiz/fers is correct. It's sequel bait. I don't agree with the emotional investment comment but that's subjective. Again, as I've said, you have to love Laura to like FWWM and this final episode.

>>87382147
Incorrect interpretation. The whole storyline is Cooper's mission given by the Giant. He can't let go because its his mission to destroy Judy+frogman/Sarah with Laura. It's not something overtly emotional, Cooper hardly cares about Laura at an emotional level.

>>87383067
Why do people forget Cooper had a life before Twin Peaks? Gordon was his boss for like 15 years before The Pilot. Obviously something like that would wake him up instead of Cherry Pies or whatever. Besides, he had a bunch of hints at his earlier life (case files, agent, damn good, cherry pie etc) Cole was probably just the straw that broke the camals back or whatever.

>>87383186
did you not watch the show?

>>87381813
You must really hate this show. You're right though. Fuck this piece of shit show

>>87382343
>>87382121
I just watched Wild At Heart and Lost Highway

I'm only left with Dune & Inland Empire. Probably will watch it tomorrow.

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>>87382752
HOLY SHIT

>>87383053
>How?
Read the book. For example, there's a letter from Harry talking about the night Eckhardt returns, but Harry wasn't there during the scene (the letter specifically says "I was there, Coop").
>that meands there's not a Loop
Maybe so. Maybe you can still work one out.
Either way, multiple realities/timelines is confirmed.

>if goodcoop never made it to twin peaks or returned to earth...badcoop would have made it to tp...one punch lad still would have been in jail and defeated him

>>87383112
Literally numale: The Post

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>>87383067
>implying dougie wasn't cool

>>87382269
This is a misconception. Lynch loves Twin Peaks, and has always loved it. Why else would he go out of his way to make a prequel movie (and plan more). Or set up goofy interviews with the Palmer family in the box set release. Or edit together the Missing Pieces as a quasi-standalone experience when he could have cynically cashed in the check?

I don't know why people always project into Lynch this fan-hating, world-hating, character-hating cynicism.

>>87383278
L Y N C H E D

>>87383262
>Cooper had a life before Twin Peaks

Did he? Did he REALLY? Makes you hmm doesn't it?

>>87383190
>>87383112
>>87383067
this website looks insufferable

>>87383140
>>87383121
He was. Billy is Audrey's repressed desire to fuck her brother Johnny and slobber his giant retardo cock. Billy in jail is escaped from Audreys dream. The only other times Billy is mentioned is in the Bang Bang bar sequences which never actually happened.
The Bang Bang bar currently does not look like the small stage weve seen in most episodes, the real modern bar is the giant stage NIN played on

>>87383307

Timeloops can't work in the alternate timelines theory.

>>87383249
except for the fact that he does the same thing in FWWM without being on a mission from the Fireman, not to mention all the small cues in the original series (like trembling with rage and almost blowing his cover by drawing his gun on Jacques when he talks about Laura's last night)

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>>87382820
I have a few with Bobe. I never posted them because I thought they were spoilers judging by pic related I guess it was just rehearsal for the sick girl scene or something.

>>87382147
>he refuses to let go of Laura, and ends up sacrificing all of reality
so Cooper is Lynch

>>87382385
did they fuck tho?

>couple guys chattin
>some faggot posting his newly revised copypasta every thread
>replying to himself 50 times a thread
>no one actually gets this show
>reddit has taken full control of /tpg/
so long guys, it was fun

>>87383326
>Julee, Sherilyn, and Little Mike are just projecting

>>87382879
Do you have any idea how expensive it would have been to shoot this 18 hour long nigger on film?

Reminder that this website exists

http://thesearchforthezone.com/

>muh plotholes
>muh resolution
>muh cliffhangers

you fags are jiao dei, the extreme negative force, demanding to be spoonfed explanations as if that alone validates the time spent with a work of art

>>87382276
I always felt safe when Mr C was around

>>87383019
This is my only gripe, the awful impersonator. Either find someone who could sound exactly the same (tall order) or change the voice so dramatically that no one tries to compare them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierce_Gagnon
>He was born into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Sonny Jim is a fucking mormon

>>87383285
>I just watched Wild At Heart and Lost Highway
At the same time? At what speed? I usually can do 2 films at a time at 0.72x speed and still keep up. I'd heard of people able to do 4 films at once at 0.9x speed, but that takes years of training if you actually want to retain anything

>>87383067
This is true but the same could be said of Season 2 where Lynch stopped giving a shit

>>87382147
this

>>87383249
totally wrong and you don't understand Lynch's core of the series

>>87382556
this also explains why MIKE speaks normally to him when he enters the Lodge in 17

>>87383400
post more

>>87383247
What's dumb about being a fan of David Lynch?

or are you saying it's dumb for that guy to call someone a bandwaggoner for no reason?

>>87383428
Not as much as you think.

>>87383009
>beauty = good acting or well-written characters

Are you sure you're not from /got/?

>>87383420
do you think cooper and harry fucked?

>>87383378
What about when this random guy shouts in the RR, "have you seen billy?"

When page laura opens the door and coop is there she saysm "did you find him?"

Was audrey actually laura?

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>>87383491

>>87382704
Is it the story of the little girl who lived down the lane?

>>87383445
I just finished Lost Highway, about 20 minutes ago. I watched it right after Wild At Heart.
>le speed meme
lmao I hope you're joking.

>>87383515
>Was audrey actually laura?

are you guys just doing this on purpose now?

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>>87383190

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THICC

>>87382227
would watch

Audrey is the dreamer

Does Lynch really like hearing Laura scream?

Is this show good? I've seen it getting lots of attention here. What is it about?

>>87383428
David Lynch famously prefers digital because it gives him more freedom. He's not a stuck up fag like Tarantino.

>>87383575
is that pee dribble

>>87382704
Audrey was actually laura.

Real audrey was killed in the explosion


Trust me on this

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>>87383504
I enjoyed her plot.


At least the writers of GoT put some forethought into their show instead bullshitting the story from season to season like Frost/Lynch.

>>87383599
chocolate bunnies

This third season is clearly about 40s-50s America

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>>87383551

thought I had more but I don't, here's some unrelated faggotry

>>87382466
Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit. Reddit.

>>87382276
>sociopath
>has probably amassed huge amounts of money doing bad things
>flippant about human life
>but he's the protagonist
you're retarded

>>87383268
I speedwatched it

>>87383581
She's probably the best screamer of all time.

>>87383599
chocolate bunnies

>>87383399
>>87383480
S1 and S2 and FWWM have been merged in this storyline. He didn't choose to try and save Laura "Don't wear the ring", he was put there by someone. He has always been on a mission/manipulated.

>"Are you Laura Palmer?"
>"Are you Laura Palmer?"
With a dead face, every time he asks this. He doesn't care for her at emotional level.

>>87383445
>watching 2 things at once
>turbo autism

I watch youtube videos while I play card games or tetris, and I thought that was autistic. Boy you made me feel much better about my habits.

>>87383617
In at least one of the realities Audrey canon survived the explosion after Pete shielded her with his body.

>>87383212

It would be fucking hilarious if Twin Peaks gets five more seasons just because ShowTime doesn't have to give a shit about ratings and the fans keep demanding new seasons no matter how fucked up it is, how far away from the original show it deviates, and no matter how many times they get LYNCHED.

>>87383575
>those legs
uh is that shopped? why do they look so big?

>>87383603
Film just straight up looks better and always will.

credits sequence almost made me tear up bros https://youtu.be/TGqVDQ-7u0g

>>87383531
I just want to say that that scene when Becky was introduced when she's in the car and high made me extremely uncomfortable to watch. She had a strand of hair right on her eye and she just wouldn't push it away and that discomfort was all I could think about whenever she was on screen.

>>87382276
>Mr. C
The proper terminology is Bacoop (Bad Coop).

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ITS NO SURPRISE YOU SEE I AM MY OWN WORST ENEMY

>>87383630
what? I don't get it.

>>87383046
>He is a better men now and she is trapped in a shitty life
Sounds to me like you are projecting some issues with women or life in general into that thought.

No one is ultimately "trapped", except for folks like doppelganger. There are so many moments in the show that underline the point of becoming aware of one's self, one's limitations, and growing from that. Ben grew from his earlier days of being a teen-banging sleaze, even if his life or lifestyle isn't totally in the clear. Even minor character Beverly still has the chance to grow into someone better because her story hasn't "ended."

Audrey waking up was one of those moments. That was the climax of her character arc. She woke up, so she could accept who she really was, and who she became, instead of living in a false reality. Much like Carrie Page/Laura at the end. For good or ill, it signifies a change, painful (and maybe unsatisfying) but necessary for growth.

>>87382895
Nice job making a point my dude.

>>87383672
No it doesn't, it's just nostalgia bullshit.

>>87383543
No...think about it.

She wanted to find billy.
She said she wasnt herself
Asks cooper "did you find him"?
Dead man in her living room was the real charlie

>>87383599
it's a mystery with no possible solution just to make you think

>>87383619
>he watches Twin Peaks for the story
lol

imagine being such a brainlet you can only enjoy a show if you can reduce it down to bullet points

>>87383599
this is the water
and this is the well.
drink full and descend.
the horse is the white of the eyes
and dark within

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>>87383679

>>87382013
wait, are you saying that the end of Twin Peaks is that there was no point, lmao, hope you had fun wasting 18 hours?

>>87383543
Not him, but I started working on that possibility when I made this connection:

>Audrey is in a bright white room
>When Laura removes her face, it's a bright white light

>>87383676
That was my face the entire time.

>>87383515
More fragments of the dream that may not even be real since we see the same guy sitting down not looking for Billy later. What people thought was a mistake or lazy casting was actually a hint at the different reality and dream.

Audrey could be Laura thats a good theory

>>87383638
Nice job making a point my dude...

>>87383660
"Don't take the ring" was Cooper naively telling Laura to let BOB possess her instead of dying on her own terms.

>being expressionless in the Red Room means he doesn't care for her on an emotional level

It's okay to just admit the story isn't the way you want it to be. Also, he has an expression of horror when she talks to him in the Red Room in S3, which is an emotional response

>>87383728
this
I would gladly watch a sketch show by Lynch of pointless vignettes that have no overall relation to each other.

>>87383628
>>87383727
>>87383729
Please, I'm too lazy to google it. But it looks at least interesting considering the type of attention it receives here.

why did lumberjack kill people on the radio
why did a bug crawl into the girls mouth

>>87383780
why wouldn't they?

Anyone think there's been a lot of footage potentially left cut out of the series like there was with FWWM?

Any chance we'll get like 2-3 episodes worth of content when the bluray comes out?

>>87383780
Judy

>>87382227
I hope it has a laugh track.

>>87383660
Don't ever reply to me again brainlet.

>>87383714
Yes, it really does.

>>87383751
Audrey actually could be.

Would make sense (in a weird way).

>>87383802
Haha time for another movie

>>87383714
Film is objectively comfier with nostalgia factored out. Its objectively proven by simple calculus thousands of years ago. Its the same thing as warmer lighting and older non-digital audio playback for it's "warmth" in frequency response

>>87383780
are you kidding.

those had no point either?

listen, I'mma level with you folks - I stopped watching around ep 14-15 (whichever one had the arm wrestling match) because I kinda got burnt out on it, but I"m wondering if maybe the series brought it home in a big way. This thread is not convincing me, unfortunately. Fucking lynchbait.

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What happened to Laura's mom and the spoopy ghost in New York?

>>87383778
through the darkness of future's past
the magician longs to see
one chants out between two worlds
"Fire... walk with me."

>>87383780
Trees carry within them, the souls of people.

The lumberjacks have an obviously dubious relationship here.

The frogmoth is the seed of Bob.

>>87383751
>What people thought was a mistake
It's quite clearly not a fucking mistake. How brainlet do you have to be to think this?

>>87383862
>I stopped watching around 14-15
You got pleb filtered.

Why is Laura screaming at the ceiling fan and staircase in FWWM? Did she see Coop?

>>87383904
and I'm glad for it.

>>87383864
One and...the same

if judy is so powerful, how did she manage to get stuck in a tiny box and how did she end up there in the first place

>>87383714
>muh dirty grain
Stop being a dumb faggot.

>>87383918
The ceiling fan is how the spirits enter and watch her home from.

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>>87383542
>>87383661
If you train yourself, you can really efficiently watch film. Pic related, currently watching Paris, Texas and Zabriskie Point at 0.75x speed, which is far faster than watching them individually. I've tested myself, and am still able to retain details, specific scenes, etc of the films I watch in such process. Try it sometime

>>87383638
Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes.

>>87383918
no, she's screaming because lynch thought it would be spooky

or do you REALLY THINK he had a 20-year plan? lmfao.

I should probably know this by now, but what exactly does the ring do? The only thing I can derive from what I watched throughout this series is that it'll make your arm completely numb after a few days, and you are a resident of the lodge when you die with it on.

>>87383919
me too pleb

>>87383947
no Leland used it to mask the sound of him fucking her for years
it's called PTSD homie

>>87383733
ah, the waste of a character himself.

I hope to God that there are a shitload of deleted scenes a la Missing Pieces.

Look, I get it that not all the stories have "conclusions" or payoffs, or characters may never interact with each other (a disappointment compared to the interlocking plots of the original, but I can take it), but the impressionistic approach to the story (little bits and pieces) can have as many misfires as it has surefire hits.

>>87383780
why was this season so fucking bad

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>there's literally a theme in FWWM called "Moving Through Time"
>https://youtu.be/K_INGPLfcEY

Holy shit. What does this mean for all the time travel theories?

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What did the white horse mean?

>>87383759
If Laura died how could the giant ever deal with Judy?

>>87383981
Ceiling fan isn't going to mask rape.

ELECTRICITY

>>87383009
Get fucked, faggot. She can't act.

>>87383733

did lynch explain how he did those magic tricks?

>>87382877
Why haven't you watched any other Lynch film?

>>87383993
lmao think you mean "deep" pleb brainlet you just didn't get it we sure didn't waste 18 hours of our lives watching pointless drivel rofl lmfao lol haha

remember when jeffries showed up in the office and asked who they thought cooper was? and then he said "we live inside a dream"? there you go. FWWM explains everything.

>>87383661
people have doing that for years. only with television or a radio. watching two movies however, at the same time is fucking autistic as fuck.

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>>87383864
There where only to show Madeline Zima naked

Im very fine with that.

You guys are over thinking it all.

Everything bad that happens = Judy's fault

>>87383967
Testing yourself doesn't seem reliable

>what was that guy's name?
>oh yeah...it was (blank)

that's not a good test. Someone else asking you a question about the material would better test if you retained information

Plus how do you know if you missed something? If you missed it, you don't know it's there and therefore assumed you consumed the movie completely.

>>87384006
The pale horse brings not death but marks the barrier between worlds.

>>87383967
can't believe people are doing this shit

I'll always believe it's a /tv/ meme. Always, I refuse to believe otherwise.

>>87384061
shhhhh this is /tpg/ not /any amount of fucking common sense general/

>>87383661
>HTMLet doesnt have the ability to multitask
How does it feel knowing youll never digest as many films as any Xanadu patrician?

>>87383981
masking rape from whom? didn't he drug Sarah anyway all the time

>>87383867
The word is chance, not chants.

>>87383979

Turns you into a Golden orb

>>87384007
What? Where the fuck is this conversation going?

>>87383640
The protagonist doesn't always need to be a good dude. Just look at shadow from the shadow the hedgehog games.

>>87383967
>watching the longer movie at a slower speed
>not having them side by side
>watching them with numbers plastered all over

Yeah, definitely getting the best of both worlds

>>87384098
how do you "chance out" exactly?

or are you just an actual fucking retard?

>>87384035
I understood it completely. It's just badly made.

>>87383967
pls kys autist

a movie is more than a list of facts

>>87382836
mr. c killed the original dougie and made a tulpa to replace him

>>87384098
>>87384136
It's some autist trolling on this specific point for weeks for some sperg-related reason

>>87383967
Is that that shitty VLC replacement /g/ is working on?

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>>87384097
>/tv/ complains about plebs but then you get posts like this

>>87383967
Do you change speeds? I do .75x for kino, 1x for movies and 1.25 for flicks.

>>87382633
I think they just included him to give Beverly a good reason to be working at the Great Northern, and to show another element of how badly things turn out for people in Twin Peaks when Laura has died, just like all of the 'random' conversations at the Roadhouse did. One thing I'm wondering about is if there's any reason they nearly have the same last name as Laura's 'real world' doppelganger, Paige vs. Page.

>>87384032
because I watched film analysis and discussion about them, thereby ingesting almost everything

not just conversations about the movies but full scenes on video and plot explanations

>>87382592
Is 4chan more retarded than the sebreddit? It's fucking obvious.

>>87383967
what a faggot

>>87384097
m'asking Laura for rape

>>87384157
all movies are just lists of facts, the imagery is af act

people have been arguing about it for years lmao

https://www.sheepproductions.com/tps/quotes/poems.htm

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>>87383638
As one who has been here since the beginning and before, I recognize the destructive result of the finale upon these threads in the form of reddit.

>>87384094
What the fuck are you talking about? I just explained how I multitask

Youtube/video on left side of screen, videogame/reading on the right