/tpg/ - Twin Peaks General

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Woman that played Mrs Tremond actually owned Palmer House what the fuck

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>>87284282
First for proof of season 4
http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/news/twin-peaks-wrapped-2-seasons-or-more/

>Agent Cooper in Season 1 also had a dream in 1989 where he was 25 years older.
Which episode was this?

>>87284282
fuck off with this reddit theoryfagging

>people using this explanation to dismiss the Carrie reality as somehow not real and assume it's just fine and dandy that Laura literally got sucked out of Cooper's grasp in the forest

yea I'm not sleeping tonight.

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Posting the most kino shot of the entire series. Bravo Lynch.

So was Sarah Palmer Judy's avatar? Was it dopple coop at the end trying to return Laura to Judy, only to find that real cooper had succeeded in completely fucking reality so hard that Laura would be safely hidden from Judy for the foreseeable future? Was this a happy ending?

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>>87284282
The original Peaks was great because beyond the perfect atmosphere and style, there was a constant sense of order and consistency. There were clear characters and narrative goals that gave the story momentum and emotion regardless of whether the audience ever actually arrived at those goals. When the show bent the rules and broached the surreal and abstract it felt meaningful and evocative because there was still a structure of reality to challenge

The Return was great too and twenty times better than the camp and nostalgia milking and fan service that any other showrunners would have given us, but I can't seriously say it was better or even as good as the first season. It was completely unmoored from the audience, for better and worse. Lynch and Frost were throwing whatever came to mind on a canvas, and most of the time it worked out (or even succeeded wildly) because they're master craftsmen and brilliant artists, but not always. Not every improvised plot device was convincing or relevant. Not every digression or new minor character had value. The "system" of dream logic fanboys keep dissecting is mostly their fevered imagination and not based on a secret rule book. It's coming from psychological impulses, not a hidden structure. Occasionally the Return was quite sloppy

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>>87284282
>>87224162
Friendly reminder that it's been confirmed that Eddie Vedder recorded a song that proves the facts of the finale. It confirms Agent Cooper never gets his mind back. (Pic is evil Cooper)
Listen https://youtu.be/pXth84G7dkM

>>87284282

This show is a huge failure lol

>tfw we didn't get an exploration of the Black Lodge's executive agency, that Mr. C is attempting to betray ?

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>>87284282
Where were you when Eddie Vedder predicted the finale months ago

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>>87284320
Second for proof there will be no season 4
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/twin-peaks-finale-david-lynch-showtime-cbs-1202545355/

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david lunch lol

>>87284345

>tfw work tomorrow

Can someone explain the significance of the White Lodge spirits owning Laura's house in the new timeline(Laura's dream)? What does that mean other than a name drop?

>>87284352

I hate to admit it but I agree with this. The boundaries of network television kept Twin Peaks in a reasonable limit. Without them, it's just a huge mess of ideas and beautiful images.

>>87284381
>working on labor day
Literally kill your boss.

It's been a while since I saw the first two seasons. Were they as hopped on electricity and other entities as FWWM/3?

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>>87284374

>>87284364
It was at about this point that I realized that the ending would have no closure whatsoever, and would be more open ended than any of the previous finales. I can't say I'm not pretty confused but it was an extremely effective final episode.

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First for CHIM

Why is there an adult Laura with repressed memories in Odessa?
Why did Coop try to bring her to Twin Peaks?
Did he forget that he just time traveled to 1989?

If Diane & Cooper crossed into another reality where Twin Peaks also exists, that would mean there's more than one twin peaks. There could be hundreds of different Twin Peaks, some more different than others. I think The Secret History is of one of them, one with subtle differences.

This ending destroyed me. I am literally sitting here thinking about my entire life and what I've made of it.

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What will you do if Lynch & Frost say that "season 4 is not happening"

What will you do next?

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: this is Lynch's worst work to date. It doesn't even begin to compare to his films, and it certainly doesn't hold up with the original run of the show. My suspicions have been correct: the apologists are largely made up of bandwagoners and anti-art "fans". Such people don't know the first thing about film, nor can they appreciate it. Go fuck yourselves

>>87284346
Who ran Jim Belushi through the black man faceapp?

>>87284282
>>last scene was a dream
>>laura in 1989 is the dreamer
>>cooper asks what year is it
>>laura's mother calls out to her from the waking world
>>laura recognizes her mother's voice and realize she's dreaming
>>she screams and wakes up back in 1989 the morning they would have found her body had cooper not had changed the past

Yeah. You are an idiot. This is so wrong I don't even know where to start. Everything you wrote is wrong. You are like a baby.

Look at me. Blink. Breathe. Read me with your full concentration. Now: Game of thrones is the epitome of tv. It has it's ups and downs but so does a rollercoaster. You still feel the adrenaline, the rush, the excitement, and relief that it has ended, it's a ride, a joy, a life experience my friend. No other show can give this gift of emotions. Name one show. Just one. Go on. Pause and think. Oh.... you can't? I know. Because it's impossible my friend.

>>87284379
>(((Variety)))
Heh. This ain't r*ddit, kid.

>>87284381
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>87284395
It doesn't mean the White Lodge spirits actually own the house, but the people who own the house bear the name(s) of one specific spirit. It could be a kind of calling card of the spirits. Many clues from the original reality were sprinkled around the Carrie world, like Judy's, the white horse, etc.

>>87284345
labor day for me luckily but in past weeks at lest no one ever realized that I spend all night shitposting here after episodes.

everybody got lynched in the ass god bless

what a fuck was that. I'm not sure. I love it or i'm disappointment

>>87284395
The ending is open for a lot of interpretations. Maybe this parallel reality (or dream) just has normal people named that and it's a coincidence. Or maybe they are the actual spirits who open the door instead of Sarah (who is still in the house) to fuck with Cooper.

>>87284339
Nigga is literally the most iconic scene of TP, with the Manfap dancing and talking backwards.

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>>87284444
Vedderchecked

>>87284440
>trying this hard

So Dale has achieved CHIM at this point?

>>87284344
Listen to the sounds

>>87284352
>>87284398
kys

>>87284395
>White Lodge spirits
>implying

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>>87284440

>>87284435
iktf. I'm crushed by the realization that everything around me is in constant flux and nothing will ever be the same and I can never go back to the places I've been.

>>87284436
Be happy. I'd rather have a thought provoking ending that will get debated for years rather than some sappy "Laura's back and everything is fine" bullshit that would probably happen in another season.

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>>87284440
>anti art fans

what are you even talking about

>>87284436
not a problem, because it is.

>>87284379
I don't know why people keep mentioning the nielsen ratings when the CEO said that they don't care about them, they just care about how many people they lose after the series ends, since they got a record amount of signups.

>>87284401

i work in retail hell mate.

not even coop / freddie can save me.

>>87284343
>don't speculate about an extremely abstract show
Are you fucking retarded?

What was with the "we live inside a dream" thing from cooper? his voice was all deep n shit, sounded like dopplecoop in the prison scene

>>87284481

Essentially yes. But he only had a one time use of it and he's stuck in the aftermath of using it.

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>>87284465
what a time to be alive

>>87284436
I'd be fine, I'm feeling beyond satisfied right now. I would like to see one more movie, but another season would be too much.

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>>87284282
>>87283102
But they don't make sense. None of it does. They just fucking botched their own story because they couldn't draw all the hanging threads together.

>wtf happened to desmond
>wtf happened to donna
>wtf happened to annie
>honestly not really sure wtf happened to BOB/Mr. C.
>or audrey
>for that matter wtf happened to sam stanley
>why was there a storyline with chad
>why was there a scene with a marlon brando clone
>that doesn't actually align with any of the details of wally's birth
>why was gertie hayward dragged into this
>why is the trailer park completely fucking different
>who the fuck are richard and linda
>how many dianes are there exactly
>how does bobby, a pretty fucking corrupt teen who was at least indirectly responsible for laura's murder (if it ever actually happened, I guess) and himself murdered a cop in a botched drug rip, become a fucking deputy sheriff
>why does his character even exist in S3
>or mike's, for all of one pointless scene
>what's the point of richard horne or the dealer he buys from who's also evidently screwing shelly
>why does coop never contact cole and the fbi himself and take such extraordinary risks with bystanders (the mitchums and the girls) or with laura/carrie
>it's honestly just senseless bullshit

Fucking fuck this shit. This dumb-ass bullshit. They just make a bunch of useless, "eerie" art house scenes and let their army of dickriders retcon it so it appears coherent, but it's all based on a vast web of assumptions and guesses so fucking convoluted it might as well be a fucking religion.

So we can all agree that Richard =/= Richard Horne and the names are merely coincidence?

>>87284344
>dead guy in Carrie's place

You are kinda right. But "we live inside a dream" is a broad sentence.

>>87284520

it was nothing, just like 95% of the things from the show

>You are far away

And now he really is.

What the fuck did I just witness

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What have you done, Lynch!

Just watched the finale. What did I think of it?

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>>87284440
>bandwagoners

lmao are you the same guy who said I was wrong and that the season would have a closure ending?

BTFO
T
F
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>>87284339
Episode 3, I believe, or the end of 2.

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tfw no sheryl lookalike gf

>>87284436
I will breath a sigh of relief. Lynch needs to get himself away from the Frost and television cancer, and make some worthwhile film. Something with artistic merit, not the tripe that is The Return. And God, the digital looks abysmal - should have gotten someone competent to film instead of Lynch's nephew from film school

>>87284344
Her body disappeared from the shore though. So are we to take it that she was sucked out of her timeline altogether?

>>87284401

Labor Day is May 1st. Tomorrow is Labor Cucking Day.

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>I said you've gone soft in your old age.
>NOT WHERE IT COUNTS BUDDY.
C O L E D
O
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>>87284534
you watched the show for the wrong reasons pal

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>>87284534
>wtf happened to donna

>>87284458
So like the "WAKE UP WE MISS YOU" creepypasta?

>>87284552
third post is a s3 skipfag
christ

>>87284534

Literally this. Twin Peaks will have a handful of hardcore dork fans and that's it. Sad.

>>87284556
That's exactly how you should feel.

Admit it, when you realized Cooper was going back in time to save Laura at the end of Ep17 you thought this was the greatest ending of anything ever.

>>87284534
>twin peaks
>lynch
>answers

most of the stuff you're complaining about weren't even mysteries or needed answers anyway

LYNCHED
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>>87284518
>i work in retail hell mate.
Just like a nu-Peaks character

LYNCHED

WHY WAS THERE A DEAD GUY IN CARRIE PAGE'S HOUSE

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>>87284346
Literally witnessing the dream.

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I completely understand Lynch now. Fitting for him to be a transcendental meditator, as his work is about the moment and not the big picture. Twin Peaks is his master work, and the finale a fitting ending. I currently feel like I'm aimlessly floating, I feel in a completely surreal state. Working us up about the story and characters was him setting things up so he could pull the rug out from under us, like a more advanced version of Mulholland Drive. I don't even mind that he pulled the rug out from under me though. Initially I did, when the final moment happened.... But now I am completely at peace and in marvel at the raw talent of David Lynch. Lynch has mastered the entire movement of surrealism, this is its peak (no pun intended). In 5 decades or so Lynch will be hailed as a master.


TLDR: LYNCHED

>>87284534
go watch one of your coloring book shows, kiddo

>>87284600
I realized it as soon as the scene cut to Laura and James on the motorcycle.

>>87284606
Carrie has a wild and wacky life full of daring exploits and crime.

>>87284428
>that car
>that suit
>her clothes
>his weapon
>the weapons of the bumpkins at judy's
>literally everything
>"1989"

fucking commit suicide man

>>87284520
He took the Jeffriespill

>>87284600
I was a bit skeptical at that point, to be honest. It's a bit rich to go back and retcon the originating event of the entire series via magic time travel. I got really interested again at the point when she disappeared and THAT FUCKING SOUND played, followed by screaming.

So many people pretending to like this pile of shit it's funny. /tv/ being contrarian as always.

>>87284436
I'd be disappointed but not because I want everything wrapped up. I just want more Twin Peaks.

>>87284534
>MUH UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
>MUH COHERENT STORY
am I on /tv/ or reddit?

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LOL

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uh...
welp
s-sorry guise, my bad

>>87284606
It was a dream sequence. It was really neat to me because it really did feel like I was in a dream. That being said I still don't really get the ending.

>>87284600
Yeah, dude. I was already getting excited thinking about posting Neutral Milk Hotel lyrics in the thread. Then by the very end I didn't want to make a mockery of Coop's sacrifice.

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I feel like that final episode was almost a meta-commentary on the entirety of The Return. I think the whole idea is that some things are meant to stay dead, trapped in amber, and that bringing them back can change them irrevocably. By bringing Laura back, they destroyed the reality of Twin Peaks - by bringing the show back, we may have destroyed Twin Peaks. Dale, Laura and the audience are all trapped in a purgatory together at the end of the series. It's one of the most nightmarish things I can imagine.

>>87284565
so did they de-age her for that scene?

>>87284666
but you're being the contrarian one right now

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>>87284395
They don't own anything. Watch season 2.

Also, can we stop with the meme that any in-show character is "the dreamer"?

>>87284539
Just like Mike and Bobby =/= Mike and BOB

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Holy fuck what a masterpiece of an ending

Lynch used the last hour to lynch the plebs in disguise that didn't got lynched up to that point

Reddit is here https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/6xxxfd/s3e18_4chan_cracked_the_ending_already/

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>>87284503
It's funny, because I could kick Lynch's ass. He wouldn't dare pass this spew off to my face as worthwhile art. That's what makes the "fan" so disastrous to art: Lynch cannot see what he's really dealing with, and it makes him do stuff he shouldn't, and pander to an audience that wouldn't otherwise exist.

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Daily reminder that Carrie PAGE was the last missing PAGE in Laura's diary.

>>87284686
this shit was on reddit

kill your self

>>87284534
This is bait right?

>>87284686
i like this theory

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>>87284282
JUST

>>87284675
DRAGON DRAGON ROCK THE DRAGON DRAGONBALL Z

>>87284675
I loved the finale but this was a bit shit.

So now that its over, what should I watch anons? Need some Hbo/Netflix reccamondations

Can someone post the pasta about the box room being a metaphor for Netflix? I'm nostalgic for it.

>>87284548
If you have any problem with the ending just watch the first scene. Fireman is afraid and knows "it" (Judy) is already there and listening. He asks Cooper for help, he's not saving Laura out of the kindness of his heart but because he was asked to and knows how valuable Laura is.

Two birds with one stone. Cooper and Diane using Laura as a stone (a weapon).

>>87284574
>May 1st

literal Illuminati date, fitting

The ending was Cooper being wrong. He attempted to save Laura, never once realizing that you can never ever actually go back. You can never fix the past. The ending was a realization that we are all ultimately stuck with the decisions we've made and that they can never be undone. In the end, we only have the present. No future or past. Just now. What year is it, /tpg/?

>>87284721
>when the existential dread hits

>everyone's calling the ending bleak
>the very first scene of The Return was the Fireman talking about Richard and Linda
>Cooper is now in the Richard & Linda reality

Fireman knows where he went

>>87284539
Yes, misdirection.
>Lynch got us to speculate about an unseen woman in a wheelchair who was mentioned in passing once

>>87284282

>all these pathetic trolls baiting for (you)'s

yikes. i'm out

>>87284714
Someone post Sheriff Truman's hat going up that shit was great

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odessa,_Texas#Demographics

What year is it?

Are Judy and The Mother the same thing?

>>87284697

I thought it was another actor hence my comment.

>>87284714

BRAVO NOLA... i mean DAVID!

>>87284714
color me frosted

>>87284675
Which PS2 game is this from?

>>87284703
Describe in detail how it was a "masterpiece". Be elaborate, with robust arguments.

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>expecting a definitive ending from a work of david lynch

Coop deep frying the guns was so lynch. DFW woulda creamed himself if he saw that.

>>87284565

Looks like the blonde woman from 30 Rock.

>>87284600
When the flasback began with Laura and James I was on the verge of nutting everywhere. It ending with the fade into Julee Cruise was perfection. I love that song.

>>87284686
There is something to be said about the fact the series ended on Laura's scream rather than a comforting note. We're definitely meant to go away feeling that frustration

Prove you're not a demented fanboy who only likes what he thinks he's supposed to like RIGHT NOW by posting three (3) major things you disliked about the Return

>>87284782
Not him but the dream sequence was stunning. Basically I just liked how it made me feel and that's what counts.

>>87284758
Yes, go back.

Did it happen again?

>>87284703
This, they thought they were safe after surviving Episode 8 HAHAHAHAHAHAH

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for the guys that are saying that "coop" fucked up trying to save laura and he created a crack in reality with that

Remember that coop got out of the red room and when to 430 mile and he knew that after passing that they would probably be someone else. So, he did know what they were doing

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>the russian leaks were real

Why is NO ONE talking about this?

>>87284606
WHY DO YOU NEED AN ANSWER TO POINTLESS SHIT? WHO FUCKING CARES?

>>87284783
Even Fire Walk With Me had a good ending, friend.

>the roadhouse scenes were all audrey's dream
>the main twin peaks world was phillip jeffries' dream
>the world they crossed over into was laura's dream

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>>87284710

>>87284764
This is just probably the last time the population census was taken, anon.

As fucking depressing as the implications of this ending were, I do feel a satisfying sense of closure, which I honestly didn't expect from Lynch.

>>87284764

The US census is done every 10 years.

How would they have a population for Odessa after 2010? And even if they did why would they update a fucking road sign before 2020?

It's clearly 2015 or 2017 in the Richard + Linda plot

>>87284782
how about you take my robust cock in your mouth

What about this /tpg/ .l.?

>>87284799

Dallas/Fort Worth?

>>87284714
>tfw still get teary eyed when watching that James and Laura scene

I think we can all agree that Evangelion > Twin Peaks and Anno is a much better director than Lynch. And know I wasn't LYNCHED you were ANNOED

>>87284812
1. Waiting weeks to get all of it
2. The fact that it wasn't shot on film
3. Having it make me confront my own mortality and fear of death

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>>87284827

Based Russia

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Julee Cruise is angry

>>87284813
>my inherent emotional response is valid
Nope, try again. You're talking about yourself, not the work.

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The last 20 minutes were the most frightening 20 minutes of TV I have ever watched.

>when the owner of the house said Mrs. Chalfont
>That exact moment Coop realizes something is wrong
>The distant voice of Sarah calling for Laura
>Laura making sense of all of this in the span of seconds and screaming

It was truly the best ending to it. I could write an essay explaining everything but it's too much. It all just makes sense. I'm really going to miss this show.

I really don't want to sound like that kind of guy, but if you don't understand it I really feel bad for you. This ending is a masterpiece.

>>87284768
pls go reddit

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>>87284716
>>87284671
>>87284622
>>87284601
>>87284576
Right on cue: the legion of dickriders pretending that 30-minute scenes of sweeping and gas station stops are a coherent yet emotive narrative but also that anyone who expects a coherent yet emotive narrative and disputes that this garbage consist of one is a Reddit GoT coloring book child.

I'll tell you what, you fucking faggots: meet me at the next Twin Peaksfest and I'll kick all your fucking asses.

>>87284812
1. Laura Dern should have had her natural hair as Diane
2. 17 and 18 should have been seamless rather than being separate episodes with their own credits
3. Whichever episode ended early to have the full song from the girl from Mulholland Drive should have had more content

>>87284565
Even the CUTEposter got BTFO, lel.

>>87284827
We knew after episode 15. Thank god they didn't really spoil anything.

>>87284827
because you're the only retard who thought they were fake.

>>87284853
didn't mean to be a reply

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>>87284282
This theory doesn't work because Sarah is Judy and that means Laura isn't safe.


Pic related makes more sense

>>87284427
Jeffries is Vivec and has achieved CHIM.

Cooper is the dreamer.

>>87284877
no anon she COULD care less.

>>87284588

>People who willingly jump into cohesive art without viewing what came before

To each his own, but that will never not be a peeve for me.

The problem with audiences of TV shit is that they just want a checklist of plot. They are spoiled shitheads that just want a simple a to b story spoonfed to them. They don't give one fuck about sitting with the show and experiencing it. They'd rather just be handed a long boring paragraph that explains everything to them.

>>87284721
>when you fix everything, but then re-fuck it up on a cosmic scale

>>87284879
It's like Bloodborne you have to piece things together and even then you don't know for sure what is true and what isn't. The absolute meaning remains a mystery just like a dream.

>>87284823
He literally said it and brainlets still don't get it. There needed to be more casual filters in the return desu

>>87284827
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/%22Cooper%20and%20Diane%20go%20to%20the%20motel%22/

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>>87284877
what did she mean by this

How does Cooper know to drive 430 miles (and in what direction) in the start of Episode 18?

I feel like that isn't really mentioned besides the giant saying 430. I guess they're driving next to power lines?

>>87284877
what did she mean by this?

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>>87284850

>>87284764
It's 2017

>>87284435
clean your room

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>>87284534
>he lives through life wanting answers to absolutely everything
>he autistically interrogates everyone he knows to find out every loose end of anything he finds out about
These retarded spoonfed faggots need to die, life doesn't spoonfeed you

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hmmm...

>>87284282
My immediate interpretation is that Cooper got in over his head and thought he could destroy all evil or some shit. Of course you can't, despite Cooper being the ultimate optimist, you shouldn't. So he just goes back and time and it fucks everything up.

I feel like this conclusion is way to simple to come to and I'm missing a lot of things.

>>87284889
go to bed michael

>>87284856
This is already a better final two TV episodes than Eva's.
All we need is for Lynch to tie it up with a movie that's better than EoE, and the deal is sealed.

>>87284898
What were the two birds with one stone? Stop Judy and save Laura?

>>87284952
Ryan is not wrong.

>>87284782
>Describe in detail how it was a "masterpiece". Be elaborate, with robust arguments.

pretty much the culmination and the perfection of all the ideas and concepts that Lynch has been obsessed with all his life.

This last episode was a dreamy psychedelic trip, dont need to "describe it in detail", as an audiovisual experience it was pure perfection.

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>>87284686
>metashit on Lynch
>the man who built a table during the season premiere

>>87284975

She is right, Lynch is a fraud and everyone knows it, besides that he's an occultist hack.

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Do not worry dear friends, you can read my definitive ending soon. In a bookstore near you October 31st.

>>87284721
>when you remember what happened during the fat trout trailer park scenes in FWWM
>did she say, ch-Chalfont?
BLACKLODGED.com

>>87284889
You won't be showing up pal, you're mad enough already. Just move onto your next little fandom desu

>>87284877
FAKEY FAKE faker

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>>87284534

You dumb baby. I'l walk you through it.

>desmond
Trapped in the lodge in one of those rooms at hotel hell
>donna
Not even sure what you are confused about. It was resolved in the OS.
>Annie
Raped, murdered, dismembered by DoppleCoop shortly after he raped Audrey and burned down Brigg's office.
>BOB/Mr.C
Shattered and spirit destroyed, Mr C was killed and his spirit was sent back to the lodge to suffer eternally
>Audrey
Still in a coma. Never left coma after bomb blast at bank
>Sam Stanley
works on special projects at FBI (coop goes and visits him during Missing Pieces)
>Chad
He was a dirty cop
>brando clone
kids like movie stars
>wally's birth
It does, Andy was cucked by Dick
>Hayward
She was raped by Leland as a child
>trailer park different
It's 25 years later
>richard and linda
Coop and Diane in the new universe
>how many dianes
One Diane. One tulpa DoppleDiane
>Bobby
was never charged
>Richard Horne
rape baby
>Coop
He left a note for Cole

Just watch the show, christ, its all in there.

>>87284877
lmao what

>>87284850
David Foster Wallace

Mitchum Bros. killed it until the very end.

>>87284979
i don't know if this is accurate because it seems like Cooper shouldve learned evil cant just be beaten like that in the season 2 finale

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what a fuck was that?

>>87284952
>I'll bet your British

REKT

>>87284812
Diane should have just looked like Laura Dern, the wig was ugly
Chrysta Bell was absolutely awful
It should have been shot on film considering they used so many flashbacks to when it was shot on film

wasn't there a quote from madchen amick that said "in the original, I played a waitress but in the new one...etc" something to that effect? supporting evidence that they may have shot stuff they thought was for season 3 but was really for season 4.

>>87284890
>2. 17 and 18 should have been seamless rather than being separate episodes with their own credits
Respectfully disagreed.
18 was ostentatiously its own thing. People will talk about these two episodes separately purely because of how distanced they are in content. They could almost be separate movies.

>>87285013
Fuck off Mark.

>>87284714
Lol, he Carried the page

Now we know what Lucas saw in lynch and why he offer him to direct return of the jedi

>>87284697
It's in the credits, it's another actress

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>>87284952
>I'll bet you're British.

>>87284952
What's the context to this?

season 4 in 2026

Did Lynch watch No Country for Old Men right before filming the last episode? There was one scene where Cooper and Laura were driving over a bridge which was really reminiscent of a similar scene in No Cunt-tree.

>>87284600
I realized it last week and told all of you that Phillip Gerard and Agent Cooper would enter the basement of the Great Northern and then recycled footage would warp them to the past to conclude.

Also that Diane = Naido.

>>87284952
lynched the fuck out

So.... David Bowie isn't going to be making an appearance, is he?

>>87284960
It all cannot be said aloud now. In-lodge shit is often very cryptic. What we experience always seems to me a weird approximation of its reality. Cooper has come to understand it better than the viewer can.

>>87284856
That anime shit is all regurgitated, you just watched it first instead of Western classics

>>87284282
This entire thing could've been 8 episodes. What was the point of half of the new characters? What was the point of Audrey's scenes? Etc

>>87284686
No, only the retards that chose to continue watch this mess while screaming Lynched to every voice saying the obvious.

Shame S02 was the last, but perhaps it's for the best.

>>87284661
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of time travel stuff. It gets messy so quickly. But hearing THAT FUCKING SOUND really spooped me.

>>87284885
The scene where Diane sees herself standing outside the motel was seriously the most frightening thing I have seen in recent memory.

Also my heart was racing for the entire driving sequence.

Say what you want, that entire episode was so brilliantly shot.

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>>87284952
>i bet you're british
lmao she's turning into her own MJA

So what did Mr. C want anyways?
To release judy?

this show is basically bunch of crap

>>87284697
lol i thought it was Sheryl lee de-aged digitally wtf

I even thought "well, thats a shame, she looks old now"

>>87284721
>when the spaghetti spills on a metaphysical level

>>87284975
fake news
years old tweets

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>/tv/ acting like that 'this is just the way the show is'

No, this is just the way bad television is. Twin Peaks is one of my favorite series, but this new season was an entire fiesta of nothingness. It's not even like you can make interpretations, or create theories, because there are so many meaningless and asinine aspects now.

One other poster was right, half the stuff in the show doesn't need answering. But the other half is being totally disregarded all together. Unless there's a season afterwards, this was honestly as bad as S2. Adding a bunch of sci-fi spooky shit doesn't automatically make it good, despite what /tv/ says.

NOT WHERE IT COUNTS, BUDDY
I am going to miss this bastard

>>87285101
>The scene where Diane sees herself standing outside the motel was seriously the most frightening thing I have seen in recent memory.
What the hell was up with that?
It's the only thing that seriously puzzles me.

>>87285095
>point
You don't understand

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>>87284714

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We /full multiverse time travelling retcon/ boys...

it was fun i guess...?

>>87285114
he just wanted to know who was judy
he just wanted to talk about judy just like us

>>87284952
Brits BTFO

>>87285128
>No, this is just the way bad television is.
i hate when deeply, deeply stupid people attempt to talk intelligently

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>Tammy: He stuck a fork in an electrical outlet
>Albert: That's strange even for Cooper
>Gordon: A real blue rose case

>>87285114
find mother

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Julee Cruise is REALLY angry

>>87285089
i'm a little teapot short and stout.... : )

>>87285079

NCFOM is set partially in Odessa. Mostly I think the end scenes. When Chigurh gets hit by the car and kills main chars wife.

>tfw live near Odessa

Sucks here

>>87284975
>>87284952
white women are fucking crazy - news at eleven.

>>87285114
Who the fuck is Judy?

>>87285020
sam stanley was forcibly retired for alcoholism sometime in the 90s (secret history)

>>87285162
What happened to piss her off?

>>87285089

I have some bad news anon.

>>87284747
You know, that reminds me of a song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJHM4w_TD28

>>87284721
is that a "No Outlet" sign in the background

>>87285095
I've never understood this logic. Almost anything could be a little 12 minute short film, or less, if you really want to boil it down to the most basic of central story plotpoints. Do you just generally hate television?

>>87285180

She didn't have a lot of screentime. I don't see her complaining about ep 18 or anything.

Underrated moment:

>I said you've gone soft in your old age
>Not where it counts

>>87285180
Lynch raped her.

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How Lynched can you possibly be?

>>87285175
Alcohol is a drug.

>>87284600
No I almost immediately lost interest at that point but episode 18 redeemed it when I realized it was all part of a dream world. The idea of undoing everything in Twin Peaks is just fucking stupid to me. The point of the last scene in FWWM was that Laura finally came to terms with her fate, to just undo that is fucking dumb. Luckily that isn't what actually happened.

>>87285162
lmao what is she doing

>>87285175

Your bunk is non-canon Frost!

"Has my watched stopped or is that one of the Marx brothers?"
I'm going to miss this bastard, too

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that fucking nod, lads.

>>87285095
I could spend 18 hours plowing ur mum and dad m8 but that doesn't meant that I don't finish on the 10th stroke.

>You're going back in tomorrow, and I will be with BOB again.
Who was it? Who would want BOB that much?
People have been saying Sarah but I don't know how much sense that makes if she's supposed to be possessed by Judy.

>>87285162

why can't they just be happy there in some kino and get on with it?

>>87285221
>daddy

Ew

>>87285114
The power of the black lodge (Judy), the same as Windom Earle. This is because Bob took Earle's soul.

>>87285144
Neither do you, because there is nothing to understand.

>>87284812
>Cinematography is mostly atrocious, I won't even mention the disgusting digital medium but the shots were clearly "made" for TV. Lynched wanted it to look bad and it did (I'm not talking about the FX which I firmly believe are brilliant). Except for some real gems here and there.
>Lot of missed opportunities when it came to casting. Should've recasted Harry and Phillip.
>No Chet, no Sam. These guys are the best characters in the whole franchise so they're missed.
>Episode 12 is absolutely terrible, a waste of time.
>I enjoyed many of the subplots but Jacoby's and Nadine's were fucking terrible too. Ed and Norma could've resolved their love in another more interesting way without Nadine and Jacoby was just a plain waste of time.
>No Argentina

>>87284435
wake up NOW

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>>87284782
Not him but let me try, with greentext of course

>Dreams have levels of understanding that don't make sense. You jump from one dream to another without remembering where you came from.
>There are higher levels of reality that cannot be explained in a physical world (White lodge, black lodge, etc.)
>There are two theories as to what really happened: This was all a dream from Laura Palmer and she wakes up at the end (pretty unoriginal ending, but the visual experience makes it a master piece
>Or: Laura was never supposed to die and the universe did everything remotely possible to fix it.
>The point of view we experience throughout the majority of the show is through Dale Cooper. He is a character within the dream or other reality to keep in touch with the dreamer.
>When BOB dies and the scene with Cooper overlaying everyone, that indicated the infinite (8) levels of the dream. In a dream world, the laws of physics in the physical realm don't make sense.
>When Cooper opened the door at the Great Northern, went up the stairs, entered the motel, etc, he was just going through multiple levels of the dream
>Cooper realizes that it's time for the dream to end, he goes to a place where he knows things will change (the place he got out the car with Diane)
>Laura then realizes at the end what is going on and completely freaks out
tl;dr cocaine is a hell of a drug.

when you wake up tomorrow, think about what you dreamt about and how it doesn't make sense. i could really explain better with time.

>>87285221
>nihilistic
Twin Peaks is Rick and Morty tier!

who was the fake jeffries
who the fuck called doppelcoop

>>87285162
what the fuck is she talking about?

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literally
And you may ask yourself
What is that beautiful house?
And you may ask yourself
Where does that highway go?
And you may ask yourself
Am I right?...Am I wrong?
And you may tell yourself
MY GOD!...WHAT HAVE I DONE?

>>87285221
fucking L Y N C H E D

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>>87285221
>no longer about the lore

>getting mad about a tv show made by david lynch
lmao

>>87285260
Doppeldiane called Doppelcoop.

>>87285162
What the fuck is her problem? That they cut the end of her performance? They gave her screen time on a major television show that people are going to be rewatching for decades to come. What an entitled bitch.

Hey, atleast it's nice the Jerry Horne subplot got wrapped up and he wasn't left roaming the Earth naked.

Theory I'm working on. In episode 8 when the giant puts Laura into a ball and sends her to earth. What if that's happening at the end of episode 17 and the giant successfully pulled Laura out of reality and put her in the dream we see in episode 18. Make sense to me because they were close enough to the entrance that the giant should be able to reach there, and the idea floated around in episode 8 that the giant created Laura to juxtapose evil doesn't make sense with the lore of the show. This is how the giant knew about Richard and Linda and 430, because he created the dream to keep Laura safe. Then what we're seeing at the end of 18 is them hearing Sarah's scream and Laura waking up back in 1989 because we see her body disappear, so she's probably not dead. Drunk posting, so correct me if I'm wrong, but this makes sense to me.

>>87285260
it was just a prank

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Cooper is the "magician long[ing] to see," the one "between two worlds". He's learned to traverse the curtain-verse. Laura is "the dreamer".

The Laura tulpa is taken from Cooper in the woods before he can return her to the Lodge.

True Coop and Diane both crossover into the past(?), but the Cooper that walks into the hotel at night is not the one that beckons Diane to his bedside. That's Mr. C at the beginning of his "life"; We are witnessing the rape the tulpa mentioned before pulling the gun on Gordon. She's trying to resist (looking away, covering his face) but she's somehow compelled to fuck him.

Good Cooper walks into the hotel and is pulled into another "world" to find another Laura. It takes "Carrie" a while to regain her memory the same as it did Dougie. The scream at the end of 18 is the first inkling of her remembrance.

Season 4 is Coop trying to reunite Carrie/Laura with her other constituent parts, ending the seemingly endless cycle of suffering perpetuated by Judy and thus severing our world's connection with the Black Lodge.

>>87284900
Laura keeps Judy at bay. They can coexist together. Judy arranged everything so that Laura ended up dying.

>>87285221
>nihilistic message
TWIN PEAKS CONFIRMED AS RICK AND MORTY RIPOFF

>>87284946
give me a hug anon, i feel lonely here sometimes

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Can't wait it yet, really liked this season so far and I'm open for pretty much anything. Was the final 2 episodes good?
I literally can't sleep until I know if it was good.
Also is there anything they could follow with s4 or everything is resolved/they hit the corner with their writing?

>>87285068
After browsing her facebook comments, I think she's mad that her performance wasn't as long as the other performers featured on the show. They also used a previous recording rather than the live one. Seems kind of lame to me for her to be this upset.

>>87285221
>condescending

Some of his fans, maybe. But Lynch never seems that way. He seems more like a bait salesman than an artiste. Even in that doc he just talks about how "the art life" is painting all day and smoking cigarettes.

>>87284877
What the fuck is she mad about? She says David didn't play the full song to screw her over and she says she didn't ask for this nightmare "all 28 years of it"


What the fuck? Does she not know that they don't use all the footage they film in shows and movies? And she "didn't like the way Lynch treated her"

>>87285240
>>87285260
Were there any previous vessels of BOB who might hypothetically still exist?

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>>87285246
>>Cinematography is mostly atrocious, I won't even mention the disgusting digital medium but the shots were clearly "made" for TV. Lynched wanted it to look bad and it did (I'm not talking about the FX which I firmly believe are brilliant). Except for some real gems here and there.

bait or really shit taste

every episode was full of beautiful scenes

>muh film

"Says his binoculars killed someone." "That's my brother." So many bastards I'm going to miss

>>87284597
need to rewatch first

>>87285162
What.

Her closing was in Ep17 which was crammed fucking full of other stuff. It closes off our time in TP. Ep 18 really has fuck all to do with her desu, what we get the last scene then just teleport back to the roadhouse? fucking wew.

>>87285162
hahaha shes a fucking lunatic

Singers, I tell you. Always the same.

>>87285195
But this quite literally had at least 65% filler. Do you remember that there was an episode with 5+ minute performance by 9 inch nails in the middle of it? Do you remember that Shelly had a daughter? Do you remember the Audrey was in the last episode abd it ended on a cliffhanger. Unless they really are having a 4th season, then I don't see what the point of half this shit even was.

>>87285213
Based Lynch. He even had Chrysta Bell smirk at his comment.

>>87285315
buckle up, lil nigga

>>87285221
She has a point. Lynch could have just made a film, he didn't have to do this.

>>87285315
It was unforgettable, that much cannot be denied.

They could as easily make an S4 as they could leave it forever. A lot of people want an S4 after this ending though.

>>87285162
Is that really her and not someone pretending?

>>87285291
You're deluded. Nobody will rewatch this, except masochists like you.

>>87285101
>>87284885 here

can you imagine if the other self she saw was smoking a cigarette? that would have fucked me up for life.

yeah the driving scene was uneasy. it reminded me of the window cleaner scene.

Is "intercourse between the two worlds" the explanation for the sex scene?

CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW OUR BOY RAY WAS THE GOOD GUY THIS WHOLE TIME?

LITERALLY BASED


TRICKED YA FUCKER

>>87285221
>the child I helped create
Is this another rape accusation?

>>87284523
>jumping man goes down the stairs when Coop goes to see Jeffries
>..........
Etc etc with the majority of stuff left open. The thing that bothers me is some of it feels like a waste of time. What's with the Audrey scenes then? They literally ended up being pointless. Billy didn't matter.

>>87285101
No, she saw Linda

>>87285318
>They also used a previous recording rather than the live one.
it suprises me that people still mention this when that's just what david does every single time someone sings in his movies and shows. (the exception being vedder I think that was live)

>>87285221
>one person is an uncompromising artist
>people literally freak the fuck out

>>87285323
no

>>87285213
That was the moment I knew Lynch was going to absolutely destroy us with the ending. He pretty much said right in the first scene of the finale that the ending is going to hit hard and it did.

>>87285221
>over supporting the child I helped create
what the fuck is this person talking about?

>>87285162
For every person that has worked with David Lynch who loves him there's one that absolutely hates his guts. It's so fucking funny.

>tfw you will never get lynched irl

>>87284975
What the fuck was the point of these tweets?

Now she constantly retweets stuff about Twin Peaks and pictures of her hugging Lynch and says how great he is.

>>87285162
I told you bastards she had fetal alcohol syndrome. Lynch should have used Out of Sand for the finale

>>87285315
Lynch should be jailed for this dogshit

>yfw for all the "demanded 18 hours from showtime" there's probably still whole subplots on the cutting room floor
Can't wait to see 'em!

>>87285362
>nobody will rewatch the deepest, most cryptic piece of television ever created
wew lad

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>>87285378
literally /ourguy/

>>87285419
IIRC she's done a lot of drugs and has some mental issues.
Might have just had a really bad day and froke out.

>>87285221
>why isn't your art catered specifically to me

This is why millennials are the worst.

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>>87284969
Again: dickrider with his head so far up his own gash he can't see the forest for the trees. What is it that ISN'T being spoonfed? Do you understand the distinction? What coherence is there in this story? How, for example, many Dianes are there, and why, and what scenes and lines from season 3 illustrate this, even if only opaquely?

It isn't explained in any way at all, spoonfed or not, because these lazy-ass motherfuckers just ran with every impulse and never bothered to determine whether it would actually all add up in any way at all. And it doesn't. Was Laura murdered, or not? Is Carrie Laura, or is it a tulpa, or perhaps a doppelganger? What. In the fuck. Is going on?

Nothing. They threw any semblance of logic out the fucking window once S2 ended.

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>>87285442
Holy fucking shit he really does look like Max Payne

>>87285415

There is literally no middle ground, it's kind of funny to watch. But I do think there are more devotees than there are enemies.

>>87285351
Yeah, I remember all of that stuff, it was great. If all you wanted was to know what happened at the end with Cooper or something you could have just waited and read a summary or watched a summary video. It's not "filler." It's a television show, and it's about a lot more than just the one central plot.

>>87285351
>filler

pleas off yourself you fool

>>87285425
You just made my rape list.

-DL

>>87285240
Maybe it was a Woodsman

>>87285466

>>87285466

>>87285466

>>87285466

>>87284404
no

>>87285047
really good point on the third

>>87285431
I bet there's some important stuff cut from FWWM that we're going to see for the first time when the criterion release comes out next month.

>>87285425
Sounds like you got
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING LYNCHED

>>87285351
The Audrey story did have an ending. the Eddie Vedder song that played confirmed that Audrey doesn't get her mind back.

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How do you guys think the ending of the new series compares with the original and Fire Walk With Me?

>>87285321
Thanks to a clause in the original Twin Peaks contract, Lynch has been raping Julee Cruise every night for 28 years

>>87285051
Or it was another of the endless filler plots for old characters that they couldn't find room for.

Let's be honest, at least 50% of the return was like the shit episodes of season 2.

>>87285297
Could be possible. Every time Cooper meets the Giant in the first two seasons, it is in the form of a dream. It is within reason to assume that the Giant can somehow create dreams.

>>87285324
I said some gems. Lynch knows cinematography, all of his movies are fucking beautiful. He just didn't wanted it to look like a movie.

>>87285221
I love that Twin Peaks is such a hit with the quirky "i'm not like other girls" type of normies because it's got to be the only show they've ever seen that doesn't give a shit about them. They're so used to being pandered to that they become spoiled and entitled. This is such a childish post.

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>>87285351
It's all for mood and expression. The "filler" scenes give flavor. Some of the best moments in this show had no concrete purpose to the narrative. That was the most inspiring thing about the show in my opinion. All the rules went out the window.

Case in point, pic related was one of the my favorite moments in the show. That absurd shit was as foreboding as it was hilarious.