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FIRST FOR STANNIS

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agghhh...

>>87069440
The secret prince marries the beautiful queen and together they fight off the Army of the Dead™ led by the villainous Night King™ so they can live happily ever after.
GoT is a kids show now right?

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instead of:
>ironborn kicks theon in the crotch
>theon shakes his head and kicks the ironborn in the crotch
>theon uses this advantage to beat him up
we got:
>ironborn kicks theon 10 times in the crotch
>each time, the camera zooms in further into theon's crotch and then snaps back to the ironborn's face
>*canned laughter*
>theon smiles for 5 seconds
>somehow knocks the ironborn out with a single headbutt
>beats him to a pulp and drops to the ground
>*canned laughter*
>*seinfeld bass tune plays*

best show in the world, lads
at least the music was good

Why did Ned refuse Renly's help and claim to the throne when Renly offered him a hundred men to deal with the Lannisters? Robert had named Renly Lord Paramount of the Stormlands, it followed that, had Robert known the true nature of his sons, he would have named Renly as his successor, no?

Jaime new hand when?

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Bend Dany, anon

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..grgrgl...

Has GRRM commented on the Rhaegar and Lyanna marriage confirmation? Has he nothing to say about his legacy being completely cucked?

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>>87069465
STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS!

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reminder that if you are in love with a woman but you're creepy you deserve to be executed without a trial

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>>87069518
>tfw we'll never see the climactic battle where jaime's flaming hand appears and he can hold a sword properly again

>>87069532
He doesn't care about ASOIAF anymore, hasn't been for a decade

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>Robert's Rebellion was based on a lie

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>>87069538
YES YES YES!

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T H I C C

>>87069532
He cucked his own legacy for some fat money. I heard he eats it raw now.

>>87069554
this. most normies didn't care about his misdeeds. they just wanted him dead because he was creepy.

they cheered when Jon killed a child after all

>>87069495
jon will die

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>that feeling when you get to the best part of 'a lannister always pays his debts'

fugg

>>87069512
It's not official until it's declared, and the succession to a regional seat is a separate matter to the royal succession. There can be no ambiguities in succession because wars are started for less. And so it did.

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>>87069588
THE ONE TRUE KING

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sacrificed my honor robert

i made a promise

>>87069554
It's not about creepyness.

>>87069512
Dragonstone was the crown prince's seat, so was given to Stannis.

Give me one good reason why Sansa shouldn't marry Sweetrobin

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Season 8 premieres in
2 FUCKING YEARS

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>Hey, Bran I need to ask you something. If it wouldn't be too much trouble.
>Ask me whatever you wish, Samwell Tarley.
>Since you say you can see anything can you look back into the past and find out how our ancestors defeated Night King in the past? We might be able to learn a lot.
>....
>If you don't like that idea can you look back and see how the wall was built? I have a theory that Bran the builder is just a folk tale considering many major castles claim he built them. Maybe looking at that would help us in some way considering it was able to keep the Others out for thousands of yea-
>They were handsome, Samwell.
>The people who built the wall?
>They were honorable and handsome Samwell. Up until their last moments. It was quite the sight.
>Who are you talking about?
>Your father and Dickon, Sam. They were burnt to ashes.
>b-bran...
>The ashes, Sam. They were beautiful. The way the wind blew them back. It was beautiful, Sam.

someone post IMAGINE with kit

>>87069495
It was always a kid's show

>>87069512

Ned would have to presume to know what Robert would have done in the succession, which wouldn't be his place, and he had not had it from Robert's mouth that Robert renounced Stannis' claim, and if Ned was smart he'd also probably know about Robert giving Stannis Dragonstone because it's usually the seat of the heirs to the throne.

>Jon is Rhaegar's legitimate kid so that his kid by Dany will be the truly rightful heir and reestablish the Targaryens and the Starks.

Beautiful

>>87069717
It will be a 6 hour speech from Daenerys about how she will free everybody and make the world a better place.
Divided into 6 episodes of 1 hour each.

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>>87069724
Imagine being Kit Harington in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Emilia, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your chubby body and horrific puffy face. I would totally have sex with you, both my character and the real me." when all he really wants to do is fuck another redhead in his dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be Kit and not only lie in that bed while Emilia Clarke flaunts her disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her fat arms and leathery skin, and just lie there, take after take, hour after hour, while she perfected that pose. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but also Peter Dinklage standing outside the door shouting that she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, EMILIA CLARKE LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because he's not the one that has to lie there and watch her flabby fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of redheads and supermodels and later alleged pop singers for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in London. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's covering her dimpled stomach as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to lie there and revel in her "statuesque (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with personal trainers in the previous days. And then D&D call for another take, and you know you could kill every single person on the set before security could put you down, but you lie there and endure, because you're fucking Kit Harington. You're not going to lose your future hollywood career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.

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>>87069554
>>87069703
Forgot pic like the reatrd I am.

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/our guys/

>>87069512
Robert literally gave Stannis Dragonstone not only as a slight but because he saw him as his heir and was too depressed to consider having children at the time.

I wish Jon would marry sansa and impregnate her

>>87069719
>by the way Sam, your best friend's new waifu was the one who killed them.
>She was beautiful, Sam

>>87069518
>Moqorro cut
Never. Maybe Melly is levelling up under mistress Kinvara's tutelage during her Essos sabbatical.

>>87069715
Incest!

>>87069768
Qyburn looks like a woman in this

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what the fuck was this guy even doing in winterfell? it was probably years since they defeated ramsay. and why did littlefinger even bring him when he knew he'd betray him at any second?

>>87069768
Qyburn is the only good character left

>>87069792
Not many episodes to fit all this shit in.

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>>87069765
>but also Peter Dinklage standing outside the door shouting that she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, EMILIA CLARKE LOOKS LIKE *THAT*??
pretty smart

>>87069781
Why?

>>87069802
cousin fucking is alright in westeros

>>87069768
cersei a shit

qyburn is based

jaime is redeemed

>>87069522
This just reminded me of how shitty the costumes are this season, everyone just wears black now.

>>87069768
Jaime betrayed his house and child to fight for the Mad Queens daughter, crop him out of this

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"We hit first, hit hard, and leave A Feast for Crows, the fourth of seven planned novels in the epic fantasy series A Song of Ice and Fire by American author George R. R. Martin, first published on 17 October 2005 in the United Kingdom, with a United States edition following on 8 November 2005."

>>87069820
Robin Arryn is currently living in his house. I'd want to delay my return too.

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/ourdyke/

So who are GoT's Mary Sues? Both show and book. I'm thinking.

>literally every Targaryen and Blackfyre ever
>every Stark descended from Ned
>book Euron
>show Ramsay

I'm sure there's more, who am I missing?

>>87069839
This

>no purple
>no one wears their house colors
>no crowns

wtf

>>87069554
>>87069703
Good riddance, most cringiest character.

>>87069820
Royce, on behalf of Robin Arryn and with Littlefinger's blackmailing pledged the Lords of the Vale to the King of the North, and the King of the North wanted an army to fight the Night's King, so the Lords of the Vale stuck around

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>Rhaegar was tall and beautiful, with dark indigo eyes and the silver hair of House Targaryen, worn long. Rhaegar was exceedingly intelligent and excelled at anything he put his mind to. He was considered to be a talented musician and skilled knight. The prince was well-loved by the people [...] However, the crown prince was said to be quiet, private and bookish. Rhaegar was deeply affected by "the shadow of Summerhall", because he was "born in grief" and was considered melancholic at times. At the age of seventeen, Rhaegar was knighted, and from all reports grew into a highly skilled and capable fighter, always distinguishing himself well at tournaments, although he seldom entered the lists - he never loved the song of swords the way that men like Robert Baratheon or Jaime Lannister did. Men said Rhaegar loved his harp more than he loved his lance.

>Lyanna is described by most people as beautiful. Though maester Yandel describes her as "a wild and boyish young thing with none of the Princess Elia's delicate beauty", Kevan Lannister recalls Lyanna having a "wild beauty" about her. According to her brother Eddard, Lyanna had been a child-woman of surpasing loveliness. [...] According to Eddard, Robert never really knew Lyanna. He says that Robert saw only Lyanna's beauty.

>>87069703
>Acktually, it's about ethics in westeros

>>87069834
because sansa is a tall beautiful woman and she's better than dany.

>>87069872
Tyrion

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I've never been more butthurt about anything in this . This takes the cake on stupid writing.

>>87069825
Doesn't need to be shown, this is exposition: the show we're talking about. All it takes is Melly looking into the camera saying she levelled up her powers offscreen. Contrive a meeting with Jaime up north and BAM new magical midas hand.

>>87069872
>book Euron
He literally hasn't done anything yet, he's no worse than Bran, Bloodraven, Qyburn, the Others or any of the other magical characters

>>87069839
I enjoyed Cersei's chainmail dress.

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>>87069853
it's Euron's child you cuckold

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>>87069757
Different reply guy here

Baneposting is love
Baneposting is life
Also CIA did nothing wrong and was fucked by cringe writers

Littlefinger did nothing wrong

>>87069502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmdbMmeECwk

Like, the parallels here are just insane
I can't NOT watch S8 after going through seven fucking years of this but come on, at this point i'm fucking insulted

>>87069923
isn't this a SJW meme

>>87069928
Care to elaborate?
I'm pretty sure most people here share your opinion though.

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http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/847445/Game-of-Thrones-season-7-Emilia-Clarke-admits-GAGGED-Kit-Harington-sex-scene-HBO

>Harington said he thinks the couple know that what they are doing is wrong on some level however, despite Jon having no idea that his true identity is Aegon Targaryen - Lyanna Stark and Aerys Targaryen's child.


These retarded entertainment columnists don't even understand what is going on.

>>87069924
I would say t. Sansa but Sansa doesn't want to incest Jon

What was Rhaegar's goal if he beat Robert?

If he deposes his father, he'll have to reveal that he annulled his marriage to Elia, made his kids by her bastards and move his new 15 year old wife into the Red Keep.

That'd just lead to war all over again.

What the fuck was wrong with this guy?

>>87069872
>literally every Targaryen and Blackfyre ever
>Dynasty is extinct
>Most of them were killed while child
>Dany will also probably die

>every Stark descended from Ned
>Rickon dead
>Bran crippled-Op yes but not a sue
>Robb dead

>>87069820
>>87069864
What relation does the Vale and its knights, its regent and one of its lords even have to the Kingdom of the North? They're just allies that helped in one battle, why is a Vale lord arming Northern men after taking orders from Sansa? What right does Sansa even have to trial a foreign leader?

>>87069909
well he's got that autistic stare that i always imagined rhaegar to have down.

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season 8 sneakpeak looking good
i find the amount of starks in favor of settling the others in westeros so they can migrate peacefully a bit off tho

>>87069881
Dany's colors are black and red so atleast her entourage is properly attired

no fucking idea why Cersei is dressing so anti Lannister like yet giving Jamie, the last Lannister alive who still wears his colors, shit about forsaking his house.

How will they will in season 8 i don't see how Martin needs to finish the books.

undead SHE EYE AYE when?

>>87069872
> every Targaryen and Blackfyre ever are Mary Sue's
What did you mean by this? seriously what are you on about?

>>87069983
They teleported through the trial.

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>>87069993
>no fucking idea why Cersei is dressing so anti Lannister
Cogman.

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/ourguys/

>Sansa thought pissing off Royce would lose them the Vale army

lol wot? Littlefinger is in charge of the army or at least was now. Was she rusing or something or are D&D retarded?

>>87069952
Except being born
>>87069950
>Also CIA did nothing wrong and was fucked by cringe writers
So a cringe character dying by cringe writers, good end..

>>87069935
>hasn't done anything

he claimed the sea stone throne
he captured the shield islands
he's about to raid the fuck out of Oldtown

>>87069971
Sansa is only his cousin, cousin fucking is fine. I would marry Sansa if she was my sister

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>>87069928
You and me both
The normie reaction made it even worse

Aiden didn't deserve to work with such a shitty level of writing. His character deserved better considering he's equal to Varys

>>87070036
And that makes him a Mary Sue?

>>87069973
pls dorne understand

>>87069839
Yet they went to such an effort in season one to differentiate everyone & show all the troops of all the houses and how differently each kingdom dressed especially the great houses of each.

Winter has come, it's an opportunity to have some diverse winter wardrobes but noooo

>>87069969
Littlefinger's death is just pointless. I don't know why they made him try to kill arya in the first place he was supposed to be smart.

>>87069981
>>87070016
They're making it out like Robert's Rebellion was the worst thing ever and Targ rule was super prosperous. It wasn't. It was shittier than when Westeros was divided kingdoms.

Also alright @ Rickon but Robb was portrayed as having won literally every battle and was only beaten by trickery. A fucking teenager managed to beat seasoned General Tywin Lannister.

>>87070025
>Krakens are real in Westeros
>The only mythical beasts we see in battle are dragons

Wasted opportunity

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>tfw now it's TEAM GOOD™ vs Cersei and Euron
Gee I wonder who's going to win this!

>>87069993
Cersei's costumes are the worst, Why the fuck can't she wear red?

Even her queensguard wears black, it's terrible.

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/ourguy/ wankers need to kts

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REMINDER TO ALL NON-BELIEVERS:
>Stannis is king of whole Westeros, including Beyond the Wall
>Jon Snow is loyal kingsmen and infiltrated Dany camp to kill the Mad Queen
>Stannis is truly just a man, scarier than any dragon or Other
>R'hllor bows to Stannis
>In contact with the Seven
>Stannis has support of the Iron bank and can buy all remaning sellsword companies in Essos
>Stannis knows about Karstark betreyal and execute Arnolf in guise of Theon
>Stannis has support of most Northern houses in fight against Bolton, they undermine Bolton rule on every step
>Stannis has Asha, leader of Ironborn who want to stop reaving and trade with mainlands
>Stannis has Theon, trueborn son of Balon, who can overrule Euron coronation and bring Iron Islands to Stannis cause
>Stannis wins battle of ice by drawing Freys onto frozen lake by night lamp
>Stannis sends Umbers, Theon and Ironborn to capture Dreadfort
>Stannis sends Karstarks to Winterfell to report his "defeat" and draw Boltons to recapture Dreadfort
>Stannis takes Winterfell with help of Karstarks inside and smashes Boltons when they are stuck between two castles
>Davos brings Rickon, true Stark, to Winterfell securing North under Stannis
>Stannis brings back Northern captives from Iron Islands to secure peace between North and Ironborn
>Stannis will make Joffrey and Bobby B dream of united, royal, paid and trained army a real thing
>Stannis has elite group of 100 giants that can shot down any dragon from the skies
>Rescue Edmure with help of BwB and Blackfish
>Aurane Waters works for Stannis

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post stuff that you're furious was cut from the show
>Theon found himself wondering if he should say a prayer. Will the old gods hear me if I do? They were not his gods, had never been his gods. He was ironborn, a son of Pyke, his god was the Drowned God of the islands … but Winterfell was long leagues from the sea. It had been a lifetime since any god had heard him. He did not know who he was, or what he was, why he was still alive, why he had ever been born.

>>87069959
Who cares? Are you some /pol/cuck bitch?

Modern day Isaac Hempstead Wright

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>>87069781
>Jonsafags still exist

Literally how

>>87069465
is gaaaaaay

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>>87069502
THIS my god this I hope theon dies trying to save yara

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>>87070032
The character wasn't cringe up until the last 2-3 seasons when he got fucked over by writing. He was an amazing actor, but the script he worked with made his character do nothing most season or look dumber over time for no reason.

>>87070025
Source on that sigil? Looks based as fuck. Is it one actually existing in the show?

>>87070061
To force a sub-plot that led to his death.
He is le bad moustached white guy anon.

>>87070082
>Forgetting based NK
kys Jaimeposter

>>87070038
We had Littlefinger float the idea of Jon and Dany getting married and Sansa barely gave a fuck, she was just a little confused.

Why did Littlefinger have to die in the finale? He literally did nothing through the entire season. They might as well have killed him off in the very first episode.

>Learns that Bran has magical superpowers and knows about his past crimes.
>Sticks around and is surprised when confronted about his past crimes.

Solid writing, HBO...

What happened to the Lannister forces who bent the knee to Dany?

>>87069983
The Vale and The North have been close allies every since Jon Arryn took Ned Stark in as his ward

they fought in Robert's Rebellion because Ned and Robert, another Arryn ward, were a part of it, and would have joined Robb without a second thought if Lysa wasn't suck a slave to Little Finger's cock

>>87070074
I think they did a good job showing the historical nuance George writes, I mean they've established through Jaime just how bad the mad king was and they've set it up that Rhaegar did his kidnapping and raping and then through Barristan etc it slowly comes out that the main stream version of history (written by the conquerors) is innaccurate, Rhaegar & Lyanna were in love but they still caused a huge shit storm the question being why....the prince that was promised maybe.

How would you prefer they/George would do it?

>>87070097
Arstan Whitebeard revealing himself as Barristan Selmy by beating Mero to a pulp with a walking stick.

>>87070125
He would have been if he didn't do that stupid voice.

>>87070154
Once the show stopped being about political intrigue and about the Good Guys vs the Bad Guys, characters like Varys and Baelish had no purpose anymore. They exist to create intrigue.

>>87070104
calm down

>b-but my daddy Ned would never lie! if people lied it would be bad
He lied to his best friends for like 17 years
>b-b-but Rhaegar LOVED Lyanna
It doesn't fucking matter,, he still ran away with a woman that was promised to a nobleman, of course it was going to cause a war, especially just disappearing into the night with her.

>>87069872
>show cersei
>show sansa
>show daenerys
>show jon

>>87070082

What will Bronn do? Go with Jaime?

Then it truly will be team good.

Although Bronn's selfish he's obviously an anti-hero.

>>87070061
>I don't know why they made him try to kill arya in the first place he was supposed to be smart.
this if anything he would've tried to use Arya to take out Cersei or someone big fucking D&D hacks

>>87070171
Well I said book and show. Targs are more Mary Sues in the show, they are mostly fine in the books with some exceptions.

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>we are both cumming

What did Jon mean by this?

>>87070080
cracarys

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I think I found the moral of game of thrones.
If you have good intentions then you can fuck things up as much as you want you never have to face consequenses and you never get called out for your bullshit

>>87070154
He couldn't leave his waifu.

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wheis mah sistah

>>87070184
The highest level of political intrigue left is
> I'll help you fight the dead
> lol did you really think I would help you fight the dead!
> I am evil queen member?

>>87070191
That's right, beta nerd, step down before I have to body you.

>>87069944
>Euron not gay
just wait anon

>>87069973
When he won and everyone was settled, he was going to raise Aejon to fighting age then hatch dragon eggs to accelerate the Others' return. Then he'll do what Jeor Mormont first tried to do, show the lords paramount a wight to shut them up and forge the kingdoms tighter into an apocalyptic warfooting. Rhaegar was messianic.

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we can talk about what went wrong forever, /got/

but what did you like in this episode?

>>87070145
Isn't cousin marriage seen as normal in GOT? Sansa and Jon would be CUTE

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>Ironbank bows to Bobby
>In contact with NK
>Possesses warg-like abilities
>Controls westeros with an iron but fair fist
>Owns boars & whores globally
>Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities beyond the wall (Bobbygrad will be be the first city)
>Own 99% of wildfire research facilities on Earth
>First designer whores will in all likelihood be boar babies
>said to have 215+ IQ, such levels have only existed deep in Asshai & Oldtown
>Ancient cave carvings tell of the one who will descend upon westeros and will bring an era of whores and unprecedented boars
>They own breastplate R&D labs around the world
>You likely have wine inside you right now
>Bobby is in regular communication with the targaryan whore and lancel, forwarding the word of God to the seven.
>learned fluent high valyrian in under a week
>7 kingdoms entrust their gold reserves with him. There’s no gold in Casterlyrock, only boars
>Bobby is about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, he is a timeless being existing in all points of time and space from the age of heros to the end of the universe. We don’t know his ultimate plan yet.

>>87070128
The Euron sigil comes from the wiki. http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/File:House-Greyjoy-Euron-Shield.PNG

I just joined the Lannister sigil with it.

>>87070163
Probly raped by dothraki horses

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>>87069781
>>87069924
>>87070038
kys jonsafag

You're so fucking pressed that everything you wanted for your fave instead went to Dany

>>87069970
He's literally right though. Can make their alliance messy as shit without the incest, especially when it comes to the Northern lords who gave their allegiance to him.

>>87070228
The moral of the story is people should be killed without trial if you disagree with them

>>87070074
>Robb was portrayed as having won literally every battle and was only beaten by trickery. A fucking teenager managed to beat seasoned General Tywin Lannister.

Well, Robb was winning exactly because of trickery. Tywin prevailed because of even superior trickery. Also, because Robb was thinking with his dick. Like a teenager.

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>>87070235
STAY DOWN STARK

>>87070097
In the books Daenerys slowly grows to hate being a ruler and Drogon returns to her once she forsakes peace and embraces the role of conqueror.

On the show you just get Dany and her entourage gushing about what a wise and just queen she'll be and what peace she'll bring to Westeros

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>Who played the Game of Thrones best?

>To make this judgment, I looked to science — political science, specifically. The subfield of international relations has spent decades accumulating knowledge on what causes different countries to rise and fall, to succeed at getting what they want or to fail miserably. A lot of this work applies just as well to Westeros, with a little bit of tweaking, as it does to Earth.

>So as the season ended, I sat down and thought about which characters were most successful and why. I also consulted with a bona fide expert — Dan Drezner, author of Theories of International Politics and Zombies and a professor of international relations at Tufts University’s Fletcher School — to help figure out how political science helped explain who won and who lost on Game of Thrones this season.

>What follows, then, is a definitive ranking of whose strategies were best in season seven, from worst to best, focusing only on players who had a major role in the global conflict this season.

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Post yfw CIA gets Baned™

>>87070163
They where made into eunuchs so they don't fuck day or hot mixed girl.

>>87070211
Nothing makes sense in the damn show, everyone's a Mary Sue or an incredibly simplistic good guy/bad guy, when was the last morally grey decision they had to make? Danny burning the Tarly's? Weak.

jonerysfags go to freefolk
jonsafags go to tumblr

>>87070255
And yet he was killed by a pig

>>87070252
Everything.

>>87070252
Zombie dragon killing the wall

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>>87070293
12) Daenerys Targaryen

>At the beginning of the season, Daenerys had every piece in place to succeed. She had the world’s most powerful army, three strong allies, a compelling objective of “breaking” the wheel that had hurt ordinary people, and — most importantly — she was the sole possessor of the world’s most powerful military technology, dragons. By all rights, she should have ended this season atop the Iron Throne and ready to confront the White Walker threat in the North.

>She failed, miserably.

>Daenerys lost two of her three allies — Dorne and Highgarden — and the leader of her third, Yara Greyjoy, was captured. She gained a new ally, Jon Snow, but he didn’t make up for the losses. And she idiotically delivered a dragon right into the hands of the Night King, her most serious rival for military hegemony. Her incompetent strategy literally endangered the entire planet, and for that she deserves the lowest spot in this ranking.

>Why did Dany fail so epically? Her nation was what’s called a “revisionist” power in international relations parlance, meaning a country that is attempting to upend the political status quo and create a new international order whose terms they dictate. Think Napoleon’s France, World War II-era Japan, or modern-day Russia.

>In a statistical study of revisionist powers, Yale University’s Jason Lyall found that revisionist powers often fail by adopting disastrous strategies. They do so, Lyall argues, because leaders build support by winning a military victory of a certain kind. These leaders make grandiose promises of a new world, and need to show that they are delivering. As a result, they build strategy around fulfilling their promises, and often adopt risky approaches that seem appealing, rather than smarter ones that less obviously fit they way they sold themselves.

>>87070212
>Warden of the North
God fucking damn it Aegon how can you be such an alpha and also literally the biggest cuck at the same time

>>87070293
>Who played the Game of Thrones best?
Tywin, other than raising shitty children.

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>>87070293
>author of Theories of International Politics and Zombies

Are the S8 leaks true?

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>>87070339
>This is the precise issue that affected Daenerys this season. Early on, she pledged to be a benevolent conqueror, not to burn King’s Landing to the ground or occupy cities with foreign troops. This led her to keep her dragons at home entirely, rather than think more creatively about using them. Why not burn the Red Keep and kill Cersei — but leave the civilian centers of King’s Landing alone? Why not send the dragons to burn Euron’s navy? Why not use the Dothraki cavalry to harry Cersei’s military, staying out of sight of King’s Landing but ambushing any Lannister forces that dared leave the capital?

>Later in the season, after losing most of her main allies, she became obsessed with winning Jon’s loyalty — leading to the precise opposite problem. She put her dragons at too much risk, sending them to rescue Jon in a situation where the enemy’s military capability was not well known. She managed to save Jon and win his loyalty, just as Lyall’s theory would predict — but also handed a weapon of mass destruction to a power bent on literally extinguishing all human life.

>This was revisionism at its most incompetent.

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This tard will return in season 8 with Theon's bastard son (by now he would be 6 years old)

Since Euron and Yara are unlikely to survive the series, Theon will legitimise his babby

>>87070251
Dorne isn't gonna settle with the shaming Rhaegar just did them

>>87070362
alrite

>>87070369
No

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>Your grace, a moment please. Lord Randyll Tarly, the general of our forces, was afield during our battle upon the trident however I've yet to hear word from him or his son, Dickon
>Perhaps you may know his whereabouts? The man is regarded as the finest soldier in the land and would make an exemplary asset to our campaign against the dead

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Death... by execution.

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post your edgy book waifu

>>87070379
why does got have such ugly women compared to spartacus?

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>tfw you will never watch GOT for the first time ever again

is there a worst feel?

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>>87070205
They personally hate his character, got lazy, and wanted to please the SLAAAAY GURLLL SLAAAAY fanbase with this shit

It's fucking atrocious

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>>87070378
11) Petyr “Littlefinger” Baelish

>Littlefinger, of course, is dead. All of his scheming amounted to nothing in the end, his throat cut at Arya Stark’s hand while the Knights of the Vale — ostensibly his soldiers — sat and watched. His failure is second to Daenerys’s only because he had a lot less to work with, and the consequences mostly rebound on him rather than the entire world.

>The issue here was overreach. Littlefinger wanted to marry Sansa and secure his claim to the North, but felt he couldn’t do that while Arya — who didn’t trust him — was around. So he plotted to turn Sansa against Arya, which led the two of them to instead decide to eliminate him. With no truly loyal allies, Littlefinger was defenseless when the Lady of Winterfell turned on him.

>This is a problem with Littlefinger’s entire approach to gaining power. He believed the only thing that mattered was the power of the forces you command. But Westeros is a society defined not only by pure power politics, but rather by a series of ethical beliefs and rules of etiquette. There’s an entire school of international relations theory, called constructivism, devoted to explaining the importance of these ideas — and scholars think it applies fairly well to Westeros.

>“Social relations in Westeros are sustained as much through bread-breaking rituals, arranged marriages, and promise-keeping as through backstabbing and treachery,” Charli Carpenter, a professor of international relations at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, writes at Foreign Affairs. “The power of such rules is only highlighted by their occasional breach.”

>>87070387
>>87070369
unlikely but maybe not all is false but the last episodes seem very fake

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>>87070400
myrish swamp

>>87070392
>Finest soldier in the land
>Doesn't post scouts while escorting a vital wagon train through open plains

>What? The manyfacedman, arya made Baelish pay the Iron price?
>I guess it's true, R'hollor hungers!

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>>87070392
>HURRRRR BEND TO ME INSTEAD OF CERSEI
>No
>DRACAAAAARYSS
>two minutes later heres this wight we captured for your benefit Cersei and went on a suicide mission for losing men and one of my dragons

>>87070339
It's stupid to include Napoleonic France in this category of "revisionist powers" that failed. Napoleon did create a new world; liberalism, republicanism and nationalism spread in all his conquered territories against the lords and kings who ruled them. It's why Hegel described Napoleon as "the world-soul on horseback". The modern world wouldn't have happened without Napoleon.

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>>87070323
A BOARRRRRR

>>87070369
How can the leaks be true? have they even started writing it yet? its due out in 2 years

>>87070293
>>87070339
>>87070378
post an archived link faggot
https://archive.fo/HeAFx

ourboy NK only comes in 2nd

Why the fuck is Sam at winterfell?talking to Bran? Isn't desertion a serious crime? Isn't bran's first scene a nights watchman being beheaded by Ned?

Also why don't we have a permament POV character on the wall since Jon left? It's far more relevant than kings landing. Is Edd the Lord Commander? Shouldn't he want Sam back?

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>>87070465
nice

>>87070303
Euron as a whole is probably the only morally grey character left, ironically. Even though they set him up as a 'new Ramsay' there's not a single Ramsay insane evil thing he does.

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>>87070455
>The first of these rules among the Westerosi nobility is loyalty to family. The Starks, a family famous for their commitment to ethical rules, would never turn on each other. Littlefinger did not understand the nature of this belief, and believed he could turn Sansa to his way of thinking. By overestimating the power of fear and power lust, and underestimating the force of Westeros’s moral rules, Littlefinger sealed his fate.

10–8) Olenna Tyrell, Ellaria Sand, and the Greyjoy siblings [TIED]

>Daenerys’s initial three allies all kicked off season seven as leading members of the world’s most powerful alliance — and ended in disaster. Olenna is dead. Ellaria was forced to watch her daughter die in front of her eyes. And Yara Greyjoy is a prisoner of her uncle Euron, with her brother Theon is on a dangerous mission to rescue her.

>What happened here was very simple. These leaders all attempted a strategy called “bandwagoning” — aligning yourself with a stronger power. Ohio State University’s Randall Schweller argues that countries tend to bandwagon with revisionist powers like the Targaryen alliance when they want to strengthen their position in the international system.

>This all made sense at the beginning: Cersei murdered Olenna’s family and destroyed their chance to take over the throne, Ellaria hated the Lannisters, and Yara/Theon needed someone’s help in overthrowing Euron.

>But the problem with bandwagoning is that your fortune rises and falls with those of the great power you’ve aligned with. When Daenerys proved too timid and uncreative to win an early victory against Cersei, her allies were the first casualties. Daenerys’s allies overestimated her chances, and paid the price.

>>87070392
I liked that scene. I saw it as a foreshadowing for Dany's inevitable "burn them all" madness.

>>87070497
he was given permission to leave by the lord commander because they need a maester

>>87070494
>Cersei is first
stupid article

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>>87070521
7) Tyrion Lannister

>Tyrion’s situation was a little different from that of the other leaders we’ve talked about so far. His situation wasn’t just about developing a strategy to beat his sister — though he clearly didn’t perform very well on that front. It was, first and foremost, about maintaining his own position as Dany’s Hand and using it to steer her toward the right course of action.

>He did all right: He still had his job by the end of the season, and Daenerys clearly trusted him to lead the negotiations with Cersei. But at several times throughout the season, he managed to unnecessarily marginalize himself and weaken his influence with his queen. Tyrion consistently advised Daenerys against deploying her dragons, even after it became clear in the fourth episode that Daenerys wanted to do so. After the success of that episode’s raid on Jaime Lannister’s army, Tyrion had very little credibility to counsel against the dragon raid to rescue Jon, the season’s most epic disaster.

>This is a point that Harvard’s Graham Allison emphasizes in his famous book on the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, The Essence of Decision. Allison argues that when leaders have decided on a course of action, they want their advisers’ approval rather than advice. Advisers who want influence over future decisions need to provide that approval, and try to shape the decision, rather than openly challenge their leader. Doing so will only marginalize them and lessen their influence.

>By counseling against dragon raids all season long, Tyrion burned his own credibility on the subject of dragon raids. The reason he felt so ineffectual for much of the season — and indeed, moped about it on a few occasions — is that he did a bad job reading Daenerys’s opinions and maximizing his influence over her. He’s a very smart man, but he’s still learning how to handle his queen.

>>87070534
Leave to the citadel, not wherever he wants. When your boss sends you to the bank for an errand and the bank is closed you don't get to hang out at the bar for a few hours.

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>>87070252
>but what did you like in this episode?
Based Jaime.

>>87070494
>No Tywin
>despite him actually sitting on the Iron Throne unlike most of these characters

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>Ned Stark: "The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword."

>Sansa: "Cut this man's throat when I tell you, Arya, and let him bleed out on our carpet. BTW I miss father, we're so much like him LOL"

jesus christ even theon understood why ned said it

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>>87070571
6) Arya Stark

>Arya is the first character we’ve looked at who succeeded at her objectives more than she failed.

>Her strategy throughout season seven was simple and consistent: kill her house’s enemies. She began the season by assassinating Walder Frey and all of his male heirs in retaliation for the Red Wedding, and ended it by executing Littlefinger for his (many) crimes against the Starks.

>This actually worked out pretty well. The Freys seem to have been eliminated as a major force in Westerosi politics, and Littlefinger’s death actually seems to have solidified Stark control over the Knights of the Vale, a vital part of their military force.

>This tracks with real-world statistical evidence that decapitation — meaning killing an opponent’s leader — can effectively weaken its entire force under certain circumstances. One such situation, Georgia Tech’s Jenna Jordan argues, is when the enemy has a “charismatic” leadership structure. This means that the enemy is held together by one or a handful of powerful leaders, and functions because of that person’s leadership rather than any kind of bureaucratic structure or ideological bonds.

>This condition applies to both of the enemies Arya took on. House Frey was a family business, led by its men; killing the entire male line ended the threat. Littlefinger held his forces together through sheer force of will; when he was exposed and eliminated, there was no organization that would continue his shadow campaign to undermine Arya in his wake. Arya chose the right targets and killed the right people.

>>87070362
utter bollocks

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>BASED ON A LIE

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>>87070611
5) Euron Greyjoy

>Euron is a weird one, since his most important move — building up a massive fleet after Yara and Theon stole the core of the Greyjoy navy — happened offscreen. But it’s hard to deny that he played his poor hand brilliantly: He started out the season a weak ruler of a divided island kingdom, and ended it with a real shot at becoming the king of Westeros via a promised marriage to Cersei.

>The key move here was leveraging industrial capacity (the ability to build up such a large navy so quickly) to make smart moves in power politics. Euron identified that Pyke had a resource that a powerful player needed — a fleet — and provided that capacity in exchange for promises of a permanent alliance.

>This calls to mind the rise of the US as a global power. As Fareed Zakaria documents in his book From Wealth to Power, the United States had the economic capacity to play a major role in global politics — to build up a powerful military and wield major diplomatic influence — far before it actually did so. What it took, Zakaria argued, was a concentration of power in the executive branch, and presidents willing to use that power to exercise influence abroad. This happened in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, starting (more or less) with the Spanish-American War.

>That’s exactly what Euron did for Pyke. Think of him as the Iron Islands’ Teddy Roosevelt, a swashbuckler who became his country’s leader and helped shape it into one of the world’s great powers.

>>87070616
That was funnier than it should have been

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>takes notes of everything including his shits
>summarizes his whole day in short sentences

At least the prop guys bothered putting a 13 day gap, so they at least factored in that Maynard would have to travel.

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>Alfie Allen's pure acting talent will never be utilised like this again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEeVgzs1yZ0

>>87070645
>Literally looks like they just found visery's old wig in the corner of the costume buried under everything and just smacked it onto his head
Jesus fuck

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>>87070657
4) Sansa Stark

>Sansa had a lot of responsibility this season. She had to maintain the North’s loyalty as Jon was off trying to negotiate with Daenerys, while simultaneously fending off Littlefinger’s scheming. She succeeded brilliantly at both.

>Sansa was perhaps the only character who spent time onscreen preparing for the long upcoming winter, managing problems like how people would feed themselves when crops might not grow for years. Her effective stewardship won her the loyalty of the Stark bannermen — an impressive feat for a young woman in a patriarchal society.

>Playing off gendered expectations, actually, was vital to her success in the struggle against Lord Baelish. Feminist international relations scholars, like Clark University’s Cynthia Enloe, argue that the international system functions on the invisible, less prestigious work often assigned to women. This is even more true in Westeros, a place where men literally inherit power and alliances are formed through marriage, than it is on modern Earth.

>Sansa understood this gendered system, and how it shapes everyone’s expectations, better than anyone. She repeatedly said that she knew what Littlefinger wanted — her body and her hand in marriage — and she was right. She played off Littlefinger’s expectations, letting him believe that she might actually consider allying with him, lulling him into a false sense of security while she quietly schemed against him. By playing off the male belief that a man’s pathway to power was through controlling women, she out-manipulated the show’s most effective manipulator.

>That she did it in conjunction with her sister, in defiance of the catfighting trope that Game of Thrones appeared to be setting up, was the cherry on top.

>>87070606
Because Theon was a man.

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>>87070708
3) Jon Snow

>I’ve argued before that the best way to think about the White Walkers, from the human point of view, is as a threat akin to climate change — a massive collective threat that humans were ignoring in favor of petty internal squabbling. Jon, to his immense credit, is the only leader who recognized the enormity of the threat early enough to try to rally others to stop it. He’s kind of a Westerosi Al Gore, only he succeeded in getting to run a country.

>So the best way to think about Jon’s mission is through the lens of environmental diplomacy: He needed to convince the world’s leading powers to abandon the internecine struggle over the throne and refocus on the White Walker threat. He didn’t have a ton to work with: The North is a distinctly third-tier power, weaker militarily than both the Targaryen and Lannister alliances and the country most vulnerable to the White Walkers.

>Jon may have failed to rally Cersei to his cause, but he succeeded in bringing on Daenerys. And that’s by far the most important, mostly because her dragons and cache of dragonglass represent the only chance humanity has at fending off the White Walker threat. If it weren’t for Jon, humanity would be fundamentally doomed.

>Daenerys is the American equivalent here, and Jon convinced her to commit 100 percent to the battle in the North. He actually went further than that: By getting Dany to fall for him, he raised the possibility of marriage. Icky incest aside, this gives the North a chance to sit one of its own on the Iron Throne for the first time in Westerosi history. Jon not only built a dominant anti-White Walker coalition but laid the groundwork for a permanent alliance with Westeros’s greatest power.

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>>87070708
>Playing off gendered expectations, actually, was vital to her success in the struggle against Lord Baelish. Feminist international relations scholars, like Clark University’s Cynthia Enloe, argue that the international system functions on the invisible, less prestigious work often assigned to women. This is even more true in Westeros, a place where men literally inherit power and alliances are formed through marriage, than it is on modern Earth.

>>87069440
>>86984845
>when you tutour a grown man in the act of how to be strong and wise

>>87070384
Given the complete passiveness of show Doran, I doubt Dorne would have cared at all.

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>>87070749
2) The Night King

>All of the White Walkers’ seemingly aimless wandering paid off the moment undead Viserion punched a hole in the Wall itself. Now the Night King’s forces are streaming into Westeros proper, where they have access to huge human population centers that they can kill and then raise as wights. The army of the dead is the scariest it’s ever been.

>This is all thanks to the Night King’s patient strategy.

>The conflict in the North was defined by what scholars call the offense/defense balance. The term, coined by Columbia University’s Robert Jervis, refers to the idea that technology can fundamentally shape whether states are likely to go to war. The Wall was a dominant defensive technology — it made it difficult, if not impossible, for the White Walkers to actually mount a successful assault on the Seven Kingdoms. The Night King correctly identified this challenge, and focused his energies on killing humans and giants and bears north of the Wall that could then be raised to make his army stronger. In essence, he engaged in a massive military buildup while waiting for a time when technological developments would shift the offense/defense balance.

>And it did, the minute Daenerys sent dragons into his grasp. When the Night King killed Viserion and took control of him, he gained control of a technology that trumped the human’s chief defensive technology. He then attacked essentially immediately, busting through the Wall and into the North while the bulk of the human forces were deployed down south.

>With undead Viserion in his grasp, the Night King is arguably the most powerful military force in Westeros. And he’s in a prime position to make his army stronger by sweeping across the North.

>>87070606
dont forget
>You must look them in the eyes and hear their final words
and
>We must never look away but never take pleasure in it

>>87069766
>sheboons talking shit about short men

this hurt me

>>87070657
>a real shot at becoming the king of Westeros via a promised marriage to Cersei
There's someone dumb enough to think Cersei would actually marry him?

>>87070606
Ned never taught this to his girls

though I agree letting him bleed out in the meeting hall was poor etiquette and a dick move to whichever servant has to clean it up

>>87070823
He's going to force her

>>87069778
>as a slight
But stannis captured dragon stone

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>>87070784
1) Cersei Lannister

>At the beginning of the season, Cersei was isolated and friendless. She was surrounded by enemies, her kingdom was deeply in debt to the Iron Bank, and she was facing a kind of military threat — dragons — that she simply had no answer to. It seemed like most people, as my colleague Andrew Prokop writes, expected her to die this season.

>She didn’t — and, in fact, she ended up in a position where she could plausibly win a war that once seemed impossible. She had neutralized a number of opponents, recruited Euron and the all-powerful Iron Bank to her side, used the Iron Bank to finance the purchase of a powerful mercenary force, and pitted her two most dangerous enemies (Daenerys and the Night King) against each other.

>To understand Cersei’s success, we need to reach back to the classic work of Prussian military theorist Carl von Clausewitz.

>Clausewitz is most famous for his book On War, specifically the phrase “war is simply a continuation of politics with other means.” This is a commonly (mis)quoted phrase, but its meaning is actually quite subtle. Clausewitz is arguing that war is one tool of statecraft and nothing more. The goal of fighting is the same as the goal of economic sanctions or diplomatic negotiations: to accomplish a desired political end. Just because it’s bloodier doesn’t make it fundamentally different.

>Cersei, to her credit, internalized this lesson more than anyone else. She dedicated herself to one objective — protecting the survival of the Lannister dynasty and the life of her unborn child — and centered every tool of statecraft on accomplishing that goal.

>>87070781
M8, with half of Westeros bound to be pissed off at Rhaegar still for letting shit go that far, Dorne could easily try and rally the survivors to depose Rhaegar and Lyanna.

Aegon will definitely lead to revolution at some point anyway, He won't take this annulment bullshit lying down when he grows up with a pissed off Oberyn and Dorne around him.

Why the hell weren't the Great Houses of Reach, Dorne, Riverlands, the Stormlands and Vale invited to the meeting? Yeah, I know Martel, Tyrell/Tarlys, Baratheons are extinct, but the houses second in line still exist. Yronwood, Hightower, Velayron, and Freys/or whatever should have been at the meeting. At the very least, Dorne, Reach and the Vale are still the stronger contenders for the Throne than even the Westerlands and should have been there.

>>87070749
>He’s kind of a Westerosi Al Gore
wtf i hate jon snow now

>>87070858
It he failed to capture Viserys

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Why wasn't he in the show bros?

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>>87070871
>She pledged to marry an unpleasant pirate, exposed a large chunk of her army to dragon fire in the name of acquiring vital gold to pay back the Iron Bank, and even let her ancestral home of Casterly Rock fall to put her enemy in a strategically vulnerable situation. No other Westerosi power thought as creatively about how to link the major aspects of state power — military, economic, and diplomatic — in order to accomplish a particular political end.

>My guess is that Cersei’s approach will all come crashing down on her head next season, owing to her alienation of her brother and paranoid, backstabby ways. But that’s a guess. Just looking at the arc of season seven, it’s clear that no one played the Game of Thrones better than Cersei Lannister.

>>87070572
>When your boss sends you to the bank for an errand and the bank is closed you don't get to hang out at the bar for a few hours.
Travelling for days across a continent doesn't work like that.

The real top 3 Game of Thrones players:

1. Tywin
2. Littlefinger
3. Varys

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>Listen here you presumptuous dragon whore. I served your father, the Mad King, to the best of my abilities and was rewarded only with distrust and mockery and now from you I see much of the same with your late arrival and ostentatious entrance. You come to beg me for aid, to defend the territories of foes who would ultimately pull down all I have built. Look at the power gathered before you; Houses Lannister, Baretheon and Tyrell. All of them have sworn fealty to the Iron Throne and all of them will receive their due protection from this 'threat' from the north. The living AND the dead.
Yet you would demand it without oaths and only promises of future treachery and rebellion. Do you think we fear your eunuchs and barbarians from across the sea? What do they know of siege craft I should wonder? Oh very good you have gathered the wolves and snakes to your cause but know that upon my word the Iron Fleet will descend upon their lands and they will have no choice but to scurry back home to protect them.
I do not care if the dead are rising. I see no allies before me, only usurpers, only wolves who would have me whittle away my forces in the cold north while they plot and scheme. You wish the protection and aid of the crown? Then kneel before it. Otherwise know that I will be dead before I see dragonspawn once more rule in Westeros.

Fuck bros, why did he have to die.

>>87070823
>implying Cersei can do fuck all about it with a battered Lannister army while he commands the Iron Fleet and likely the true loyalty of the incoming Golden Army

>>87069820
>>87069983
The vale is technically part of the north, it's why Ned's wife went to the north for soldiers and for Tyrion

>>87070913
Because he would have been a distraction from the Sneks

>>87070932
This now we have 2 mad queens

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>heh lets pretend that we are having a conflict and hate each other even when no one's around for an entire season, then with a surprising twist we murder someone else entirely!

what exactly did D&D mean by this?

>>87070946
The vale is the East. And Cat went there because her sister.

>>87069928
What, you didn't want some scooby doo shoved into your medieval political drama?

When is jorah going back to bear island and marrying his niece

>>87070950
But darkstar is the baddest poosi

>>87070706
>Brothers sometimes look similar
Shocking.

>>87070932
Good that he's dead. D&D would have ruined him with their fan fiction.

>>87070932
Tywin would have allied with her.

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>>87069983
>What right does Sansa even have to trial a foreign leader?

you know what, now that I think about it...

Sansa, basically a seat warmer for the King in the North, executed a regent of the Vale. That's like Mike Pence executing Theresa May while she's visiting the White House because she did some shit 5 years ago in her own country.

>>87070946
Cat went to the Vale because her sister owns the place and the Vale is a long time ally of the North

though D+D for convenience have apparently allowed the North to assimilate the Vale now

>>87070706
>>87071000
>they are brothers so they style their hair exactly the same

nailed it
-D&D

I'm hearing talk that season 8 could have all its episodes feature-length.

Would be pretty comfy to have six 120-minute episodes

>>87070914
>hurr plz applaud le smart strong womyn who hides south while the apocalypse comes from the North

While it is the best option to take given the circumstances, sitting on the side like a vulture is not worth applauding.

I hope she has a fucking miscarriage in front of all her court, it'd be exactly what she deserves.

>>87070877
Because they are all subject to the leaders that actually were at the meeting - Jon, Dany, and Cersei.

Why didn't Regger marry Lyanna in the first place

>>87071059
they need to have that, they can't tie up the whole show in 7 one hour episodes

>>87071081
He met her after he was already married.

>>87071001
Imagine if they had been in full fanfiction mode from season 1?

>Cersei kills Robert in self-defense after he tries to rape her in the baths
>Sansa becomes a political mastermind overnight after listening to several conversations among the nobles during the tourney
>Nearly all of Littlefinger's good ideas end up coming from observations made by Sansa
>A hooded figure stumbles into the brawl between Ned and Jamie and even manages to fight Jamie to a standstill before escaping, the figure is later revealed to be Brienne of Tarth
>Montage of Jon emptying the Lord Commander's bedpan while serving as his steward

>>87071078
there is literally no logical reason to hide, she is fucking insane, and I mean that literally

she is incredibly paranoid and likely delusional

>>87070932
I bet that sounded really cool in your head.

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considering the lotr cartoon wasn't so bad what would y'all think of a cartoon version of ASOIAF?

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>>87071078
>While it is the best option to take given the circumstances, sitting on the side like a vulture is not worth applauding.
Because what the Danycucks were planning was smart?
>help us Cersei, this is everyone's fight!
>but we'll still fight you after though, btw we have dragons so you're toast

>>87070967
Scooby doo had better plot twists than DnD

>>87071162
the writting is so shit holy fuck
characters are twisted into living memes of themselves

>>87071162
She doesn't offer independence to the north though.

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You are the Night King in an alternative timeline where you couldn't wololo any of YASS QUEEEN's dragons when you could.
How do you proceed?

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>>87071145

>western art style

lolno.

>>87071240
>being able to watch anime without puking
legit jelly

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Better Littlefinger trial scene:

>mobile figther g gundam theme plays; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdOceSVCJb0
>LF throws arya against the wall behind sansa and bran
>arya falls into the fireplace and beings to burn. she screams in agony as the entire room stares in complete awe as a man threw a goblin 50 feet
>"heh. bran? you are the raven. Did you see this?"
>LF throws the dagger across the room with the precision of an eagle. It hits bran right between the eyes.
>"there is your third eye"
>sansa screams "kill him!!!"
>the knights of the vale surround LF with their swords postured for attack. LF performs a leg sweep and all the knights fall to the ground. one sword flies up, LF performs a backflip, kicks the sword, and lands. the sword pommel falls perfectly into his hand.
>LF rips off his cloak to reveal a tank-top with a mocking-bird painted boldly in black
>"i'll have you know that my master wants you all dead."
>"master?" sansa muttered in horror, as bran's body lay lifeless in the seat next to her
>leaping into the air, LF lands on royce's shoulders.
>"heh." LF chuckles
>he pierces his sword into the skull of Royce and jumps off and performs 7 flips in the air before landing back in the middle of the solider's he kicked down.
>LF makes a defensive posture.
>they rise, and he spins into a cyclone cutting the knights to pieces.
>LF stops. His back is to sansa
>"what...???" sansa says as she cannot believe what is happening.
>then, arya covered in scars from the flames, takes needle and attempts to stab LF. he effortlessly blocks.
>"heh. not even close. give me a challenge."
>arya is enraged and charges LF with both hands on the sword. but she left herself open.
>LF, like lightning, moves behind the charging arya.
>arya knows its too late. her eyes open wide as she feels the sword in her heart.
>"nothing personal. bitch"
>arya falls to the ground

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>>87071240
>weebshit

From a scale of the Burlington Bar to Preston Jacobs, how would you rate the season finale (and the season in general?

>>87071014
>>87071016
This in game of thrones but not a song of ice and fire
Although it would make sense for them to be united as the two andal holds of westeros

>>87071240
Hound x Arya made me think Arya was a good character. What happened?

>cersei thinks she can finish "what's left of the northerners"

Is this fucking bitch dumb or doesn't she understand that all of the north WILL turn into zombies and attack her anyway.

The best course of action for her faggot ass baby is to actually DO fight in the north.

>>87069575
The mad king was still mad, the Starks didn't need to burn. After that it was game over.

>>87071268
it's not anime if you can see their noses

>>87069554
Gillen is a hell of an actor tbqh

>>87071280
This is fire emblem style not anime

>>87071235
asked my gf the same question
her answer was: "use the giants to throw zombies to the other side of the wall until the night's watch is swarmed, then order the zombies to open the door

>>87071162
>le sovereignity meme hurrrr
>being a Lannycuck
>implying shitsei would leave Jon to rule the north after dealing with Dany, specially considering Jon's army would be in a terrible state if they actually managed to defeat the Night King

Weird, Lannisters are supposed to be this clever house of schemers and manipulators always a step ahead but their fans are absolute morons.

>>87071321
>fire emblem
>not anime

>>87071240
That's pretty good. Not going to save it, though.

>>87071321
It's clearly anime you dumb weeb.

>>87071162
Jonerys do have the upper hand though.

The only reason they\re not burning everything to the fucking ground is because they don\t want to seem like baddies, but if Cersei goes apeshit enough, noone will really blame Danny

>>87069872
Arya, Dany, Sansa, Cersei, Yara

>>87071295
Cersei believes in the dragon's fire to kill zombies because she doesn't know about the Night King rocket icycles.

>>87071295
She thinks the GoT es will mutually destrou each other and she's the only king with wildfire dragon glass grenades
>this is why '100 barrels more' was a scene

>>87071006
This. Once he confirmed dragons were not only real but on their way he would have sprinted as fast as possible to be the first person to bend the knee.

>>87071340

Sure you aren't :3

>>87070932
Good voice, strong words. But nothing beats an air force, especially in a setting where the only rivaling air force needed a magical javelin-hurling arm to even approach parity.

I agree that Tywin would have seeked an alliance with her. More than that, Tywin would have proceeded with his original plan of marrying into the Targ line. Its worth is now multiplied with the arrival of dragons, and Tywin would be seeking for his house their own dragons. That means Targ genes. He offered Cersei as a match for Rhaegar but Aerys blocked that suit. Tywin will have to find new generations of Lannisters that may suit the children of Aegon and Daenerys. He will have his dragons.

>>87071283
the season would be good if they spent at least an episode on explaining shit
gonna give it like 6 or 7 /10 if the fan explanations are what they had in mind when making the scenes 3/10 if not
>>87071313
idk looks all the same to me
just for some reason anime makes me illl when i watch it

>>87071330
idk if that'd work, but I'd run for my fucking life if I saw those things falling hundreds of meters down my head

>>87071334
You can like the Lannisters without liking Cersei.

>>87071336
>>87071344
It's that halfway house where it's not any previous mainstream anime, but too eastern to be a cartoon

>>87071274
>CUHRAYZEE LF

Where do I have to sign

>>87071306
i know. ive never understand where Lyanna being an immature brat by foresaking her duty in joining her house in marriage is always praised when most of the others got on with it and did their duty like Catelyn for example. They got so many people killed. Shes a literal homewrecker. Got Rhaegar's wife set aside like a piece of trash and her kids delegitimised because she couldn't keeo true to her i hate cheaters crap

>>87071387
>But nothing beats an air force
Ask Dorne.

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>>87071394
don't open this then

>>87071330
She's a keeper.

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>tfw Nikolaj deleted this because JaimeBriennecucks were insulting him in the comments
They're so mad that both him and Gwendoline are destroying that ship with no survivors but no need to shit on this, that was qt.

>>87071409
No, it's still anime.
>too eastern to be a cartoon
They're all cartoons lad.

>>87071235
Boats

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>Lady Sansa I believe you swore under oath that the singer was the one who shoved your aunt from the Eyrie?
>Ah, I suppose we are taking dreams into account as evidence then? Should all courts be settled by boys who fell out of towers?
>Do great deeds not weigh in against the wrong? Returning you to your seat upon Winterfell, saving your bastard brother and bringing the Vale into your service. House Stark owes me much, a fair trial is the least you can offer.
>Very well then, I shall demand trial by combat
>No? Fine, then the Night's Watch will serve me well enough, with the dead on the way you need every man you have
>Not even that? Blast it all then. You are a stark, my lady, I shall accept your sentence only if you are the one to swing the sword
>Oh whatever just have the goblin bitch cut my throat with the dagger, there's some irony there, I guess?

>>87071452
>They're all cartoons lad.
but one is glorious chinese culture
the other filthy gaijin

>>87071330
it's far more practical if they just climb the wall en mass

even with the wildlings there aren't enough men to cover the whole wall, wights would get through and over time they would kill more people and add to the army

>>87070932
If he saw the dragons he would plot to gain control of them but put on a friendly face for now

>>87071162
Jon should have told Cersei that if NK wins then the Lannisters have to fight 3 dragons, 100,000 undead from NK original army and an extra 100,000 undead unsullied and Dothraki.

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>>87071399
>>87071435

The actual scary thing is that as we recently saw, their limbs can move with total freedom if separated from their body.
Imagine the following scenario:
>army of the death falling from the sky
>they splinter into pieces
>focus on the ones who arrive unharmed
>fighting against 2 of them
>you feel something touching your ankle
>a fucking hand grabs you and makes you trip
>as they devour your intestines you watch your brethren being bitten by falling skulls

>>87071495
It wasn't a trial, it was a fuck you petyr because sansa and royce hated him.

>>87071495
Bad script, burn it. The audience wouldn't like it.

>>87071533
>>87070932
Besides that amazing writing, just as I remember him skinning the deer talking to Jamie

>>87071426
>One in a million shot while taking off from an abandoned rampart
Too uncertain, and the enemy has three should she come while Tywin was still in power. Gold mines can't be evacuated or moved unlike sand wastes. No, breeding into the line of dragontamers is the more dependable long-term strategy. That's Tywin.

>>87070013
well the season 8 leaks said jon, jaime, jorah and many others die fighting euron when drogon accidentally ignites wildfire under the dragon pit. lyanna targaryen, jon and dany's daughter, is raised as queen by missandei and tyrion (dany died giving birth). sansa returns as lady of winterfell with hints there is a relationship with gendry who has become lord of the stormlands. edmure tully regains riverrun. sam becomes maester at kingslanding. yara gets the iron islands. arya leaves westeros. a white walker takes the corpse of bran to WW HQ and resurrects him as the new night king (winter is coming again)

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>>87071274
>throws a goblin 50 feet

>LF married Sansa to the Boltons and then went to KL to tell Cersei about it so that Cersei will kill the Boltons and probably name him warden of the norf or whatever.
>This plot is dropped because Cersei is taken by the high sparrow and is never brought up again.
>LF does basically nothing smart since then.

>>87071639
Fake leaks.

>>87071565
>Flesh eating skulls raining down from the sky, blocking out the sun
Pure fucking metal

>>87071724
FOR YOU

Jon's real name should have been Aemon

>>87071420
So we're not gonna talk about the asshole who publicly declares their relationship and subsequently starting the war. If that fucker hadn't pulled that shit at the tournament then maybe the mad king would have died and we'd have peace

>>87071639
>killing half the remaining cast in an explosion

lolno

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>>87070490
GODS

I WAS STRONG THEN

>>87071145
I would unironically love to read a GoT manga with top tier art.

>>87071502
Which would be far more interesting, this plague of zombies sweeping all over the country and slowly turning the continent into the land of the dead vs 1 slow moving army ready for 1 big battle for the dawn GG shows over.

Only makes sense if they want this consolidated army of the dead for a specific reason to take a specific place/person rather than just extinguish all life.

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>>87070571
>seriously analysing shit writing
Something like this would have been nice for s1-s3 though.

>>87071702
LF was always good at playing the powerful
but with cersei and rest out of the picture he was in charge, was he ever shown to be a good leader rather than someone who is simply good at manipulating ?
if no then it would explain why he sucked

>>87071495
Actually I'm surprised they didn't have him demand a trial by combat
>LF promises lordship in the vale to his champion, several knights of the vale hesitatingly step forwards
>Demands to know who will champion Sansa
>Arya steps forward and smirks
>Men who stood for LF all look at one another and then step back
>Arya smirking intensifies

>>87071274
>"heh. bran? you are the raven. Did you see this?"
>LF throws the dagger across the room with the precision of an eagle. It hits bran right between the eyes.
>"there is your third eye"
came hard

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>>87070400

>>87071792
i know Rhaegar is a scumbag who went full LF mode on Lyanna it boggles my mind how romanticised he is in and out of story

>>87070693
dat greyjoy theme

>>87071825
>Lyn Corbray steps forward
>beats Arya
>gets Lordship over his brother and all the boys he could ever ask for

#WINNING

>>87071825
The episode was already long