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A good dalek edition
Previously:>>84255836
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>be the Doctor
>land on a ship to put your best friend on rehab
>see your other best friend get shot
>go down in an elevator
>she's now a cyberman you haven't seen in millenia
>your best friend on rehab walks in the room, evil, with her past self you haven't seen in milennia
>yfw
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>>84258814

we tumlbr now. lets argue about not including 5 characters in the title. We have to make this board a safe space for us /who/ fans.
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will chinballs bring back continuity

what bullshit excuse did moff give for covering the earth in trees and no one remembering it?
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>>84258914
If the thread doesn't have a name people can't search for it. So they'll think there isn't a /who/ thread and create a duplicate, shitting up the board. If you weren't a total newfag you'd know this.
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>>84258896
yea, it just occured to me that 10 was about 900 when he encountered simm, and that twelve is now something like 2000
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>>84258947
the average /tv/ poster may be dumb but they can read.
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NU DOCTOR STRAWPOLL. WHO DO YOU THUNK?
shit yea, it just occured to me that 10 was about 900 when he encountered simm, and that twelve is now something like 2000
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>>84258947
>So they'll think there isn't a /who/ thread and create a duplicate, shitting up the board.

kind of like you've done
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>>84258987
Shit, I'm just going to go kill myself now
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>>84258972
What does this have to do with reading? People are just lazy. They won't bother to search the catalog for a nameless thread because every thread at least has "/who/" in the title.
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>>84258914
Look, just admit you fucked up with the thread.
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why didnt they do a merlin cross over episode?

10 and merlin going around arthurian britain defeating space dragons and shit
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>>84258988
I'm not OP. Surprise surprise, multiple people think nameless threads a shit.
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>>84259034
it wasnt me

now I'm actual OP and I admit I fucked up with the thread
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FLYBERMEN
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>>84258934
I agree with this so much
I miss continuity
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13259634
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>>84259066
Are those Mondasian Diapermen propelling off the ground via explosive diarrhea?
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Has there ever been a story (audio, short, novel, etc) where they did the whole your heart against a feather thing, like in Egyptian mythology, but with a futuristic twist or whatever? If not, I feel like it would make a relatively decent little story.
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>>84258915
I know

Thats why I listed it as a kino point

It wasn't moffucked in.
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Of course, they are rather neccessary... when you happen to be someone's FORMER PRIME MINISTER
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>>84259081
114 people already voted in this
Are you trying to find out how many people there are on /who/
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Anyone done a fan edit from the Doctor's POV?
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I think it's Talalay carrying Moffat, not the other way.
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>>84259081
>no "none of the above" option

What a terrible poll.
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>>84259140
over 100 people apparently
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>>84259135
Harriet Jones, Former Prime Minister
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anyway it doesn't fucking matter which thread to shit on moffat on.

why doesn't earth know jack shit
what about the cubes
what about the trees
what about the universe exploding
what about ww2 daleks
what about the everyone's dead body cyberman invasion
what about monks
what about the zygon invasion
what about wifi people snatchers

where my fucking continuity at moffboy
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>>84259160
i think you need to be carried into a pit, rtdbad
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>>84259160
Talalay is overrated
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>>84259195
people forget things DUDE xD
use your brain xD
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>>84259054
shit, my bad
im tired and used to every post here being complaints
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>>84259108
No, but it was used as the cover of a FP audio if you really want to know. There's nothing about it in the story though.
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>>84259195
WIBBLY WOBBLY

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>>84259215
So is Moffat lmao
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>>84259242
ccant blame you for that
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Remember when unit was cool before moffat ruined it forever?
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>>84259244
This cover is actually a bit of an "inspiration" for the idea, haha. It's a damn shame I can't write for shit though.
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>>84259049
Oh, thanks then. It happens to the best of us.
Love you really anon
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>Missy was bad
>She was good, kinda
>She gets rehab
>Oh look she is evil again
What was the whole point of all that part if they were gonna pull this up this basically?
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>>84259195
>>84259257
That's so fucking cringey
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>>84259293
moffat is incompetent
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>>84259293
Just in case if someone thinks Missy is just acting like she is back to her former evil self to bait the Master out, that would have the same pointless effect
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TALALAY POSTED THIS A FEW MINUTES AGO ! SHE JUST DONE AND GONE FUCKED UP AND QUICKLY DELETED IT


THE LEAKS WERE RIGHT!!
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Series 10 Mondasian Cybermen concept art.
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>>84259195
There were umpteen alien invasions during the UNIT era as well as the RTD era which would never be referenced again. The cubes were made out to be a publicity stunt or something, the universe exploding was unwritten, ww2 daleks were covered up by the government
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>>84259105

They do have very fast bottoms.
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>>84259371
Thank fucking god they stuck with the original
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>>84259373
like what?
except for cyberking, it was shit.
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>>84259373
RTD era had a good degree of consistency
people actually remembering invasions
the air carrier
etc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlagfr_lYaQ
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>>84259413
>>84259398
Isn't it literally written out in one Moffat episode that Amy or someone else didn't remember the Daleks invading because the cracks erased them from time? There's your explanation

Also, time travel existing will cause continuity problems, with events that never happened before suddenly having happened, and evets that did happen suddenly not happening


Hactually
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>>84259419
We don't care about your shitty reactions
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>>84259413
>>84259195
Why are you repeating yourself from last thread?
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>>84259419
He's such a diva. But he has nice blowjob lips.
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If the lifts use a counterweight system then shouldn't they be pretty much non-functional further down or burning the cable from going so fast near the top?
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>>84259419
why are you posting this poofter
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>It's a cuck defends moffshit on an online forum episode
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Wouldn't it be good to give us a short glimpse of 13 next week? that would be a a proper way of introducing the next Doctor and not having to do that cringey thing they did with Capaldi.
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>>84259356
I call bullshit, where are the other people freaking out about this?
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>>84259441
the cracks erased rtd stuff tho didn't they
i guess that can also explain ww2 daleks

but what about everything else
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>It's a cuck defends rtdshit on an online forum episode
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I want to have sex with her, holy fuck.
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>>84259446
i'm bored and i want to bully moff
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>>84259453
Inertia lifts mate
No cables
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>>84259494
>Having standards of women this low.
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>>84259195
UNIT and the world govts put stuff in the water so most people forget - it was in the previous unit audio box
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>>84259507
That's what happens when you watch Doctor Who and his stupid ape
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>>84259486
I explained some of them earlier, but with the Zygons - there's no issue there. There hasn't been a "wowee this is the first time aliens have ever contacted us" moment since any of those examples, has there? So none of this contradicts itself - it just isn't brought up. Like they don't mention the holocaust in any episodes so are we to presume it never happened in the Whoniverse?
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Shit lads we've been deceived haven't we? 12, the Master and Missy are gonna team up and kick Cybermen arse. There will probably be a good the bad and the ugly stand off at some point though.
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Maybe both sides are right and all nu who is pretty shit when it's not being a to scale reproduction of classic who.
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>>84259531
so forgetting london becoming a jungle with billions of pre-brexit pounds of damages after the fact is a thing that happens
but bill gets to keep the memories of her mom's tulpa to save the world from the combine
cool
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>>84258934
humans like to ignore earthshattering events because humans don't care
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>>84259542
I was so happy when she had a huge fucking hole blown into her and even happier when she was turned into a Cyberman. But I know it's temporary. It's all going to end up being a simulation or some time fuckery will happen where she is not only saved but gets a super happy end because we're not allowed bad endings for anyone anymore.
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https://twitter.com/YooCantSayThat/status/878696716622598144

https://twitter.com/YooCantSayThat/status/878696716622598144

https://twitter.com/YooCantSayThat/status/878696716622598144

KEK

ICONIC
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>>84259548
that's a shit example my dude
invasion =/= first contact

>>84259586
how fucking indifferent are humans to not give a fuck about earth exploding

how much thc does unit pump in the water
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>>84259568
Classic who was shit too m8
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But who was cold open?
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>>84259548
>Like they don't mention the holocaust in any episodes so are we to presume it never happened in the Whoniverse?
Let's Kill Hitler
The Doctor Dances
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>>84259556
>Missy is the good
>The Master is the bad
>The Doctor is the OOGLEH!
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>>84259637
punished "venom" who
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>>84258987
Isn't Twelve like 4.5 billion years old now though

You'd think he'd have no memory of Simm considering it was 4.5 billion years ago for him. You'd also think he would be a fucking nutcase because he's 4.5 billion years old and 99% of that time was spent by himself punching a wall, but then again Moffat made Rory 2,000 years old and didn't make it affect him in any way except for Amy being an ungrateful cunt who tried to divorce him because they couldn't have kids even though Rory literally protected her for 2,000 years while she was inside a box after he was forced to kill her because Amy didn't listen to Rory when he told her to run away before his programming took over.

both of those things happen in two of the shows best episodes, too. Fucks sake Moffat why can't you be consistent with anything
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Name 1 (ONE) single good christmas ep since series 5

Name 1 (ONE) good Comic Relief ep since series 5


I'm waiting,,,
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>>84259591
The best idea I've heard is that Heather shows up again to take Bill away.
She doesn't need the cyber parts if she's fused with her wetfu.

Hell, you could even say that this was teased since The Pilot, since they mention possibly seeing her again.
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I absolutely hated the first fifteen / twenty minutes. All that Missy crap seriously wound me up the wrong way.

It started to improve when Bill met Mr Razor, and the last five minutes were pretty good.

But the whole thing built up to two things we already knew - Cybermen and Master - so it all felt rather pointless.

Having said that, John Simm was excellent, and I really didn't spot that it was him until he started dropping hints to Missy.

But it didn't really feel like a particularly incident full episode. Extraordinarily slow, particularly the three whole minutes of a partially converted Cyberman saying "pain".

I do think it was somewhat inappropriate for the timeslot, especially the hole in Bill's chest - nobody ever gets to complain about Lytton having his hands crushed ever again!

6/10.
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You'd swear they think the Sonic Screwdriver is a fucking Lightsaber!
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>>84259620
What exactly is your point, that people keep forgetting invasion happened? They just never bring it up during the 10 minutes a week we see them on screen
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>>84259659
heaven sent
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>>84259659
The Husbands of River Song
The Caretaker
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>>84259659
>christmas

Um.. Last Christmas is ok? I believe. Both husbands and mysterio are alright.

>comic relief

Doctor Who is fun-free since 2011.
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>>84259632
yeah but it's fun
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>>84259643
Change my sentence to "like they don't mention [literally any big historical event they don't mention in the show]"
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>>84259659
All of them except The Doctor The Widow and The Wardrobe
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>>84259656
It might be like a Rory thing where Rory does remember being a Roman but not all the time.
So 12 remembers every death in Heaven Sent but not all the time.
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>>84259675
Are you just gonna be indifferent and not bring it up if foreign soldiers march up your fucking town and massacre a bunch of people?
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>>84259664
>they said there is a reason why she keeps saying she's a lesbian

This is going to happen isn't it? like that Titanic episode where Kylie is turned into stars so she doesn't "die"
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>>84259195

I was glad Simm mentioned being the former prime minister tbqh
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>>84259656
He spent most of those 4.5 billion years doing the same thing. It probably all blended into one, even if he claims to "remember it all"
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>>84259659
The Husbands of River Song
The Husbands of River Song
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>>84259659
>Last Christmas
>Husbands
>Mysterio
What are you trying to prove here?
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>>84259713
>So 12 remembers every death in Heaven Sent but not all the time.
No?
He died for 70 million years or whatever but was respawned by the teleport

so the doctor we have now is a fake that was teleported in
read up on the star trek transporter dillema, it's the same shit
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If Moffat doesn't tie things up and explain how Simm escaped gallifrey isn't gonna be awful. It already sucked that Missy escaping the Daleks in series 9 wasn't explained properly. I hope there are references clear and cut to the End of Time or dropped.
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When did you lads realise it was Simm? I realised it when he kept bobbing his head in the hospital corridor, those mannerisms were too distinct.
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>>84259591
Obviously. This show is meant to be fucking escapism. It's silly sci-fi bullshit 99% of the time. Life is already shit enough; we don't need the show to be dark and extremely depressing all of the time.
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>>84259656
Each clone of the Doctor only lasted a couple of weeks or so, I thought. So the Doctor only really has a couple of weeks of memories of the events of Heaven Sent, even if he has the knowledge that it was much longer than that
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>>84259668
The hole in her chest wasn't bad, that's just fantasy violence like the Ice Warrior guns in Empress of Mars. What really got me was the moment when she fell backwards.
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God I fucking hate Moffat

Can't leave anything alone
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>>84259783
NO SCARRED FACES
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>>84259758
when he first appeared because I knew it weeks in advance
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>>84259682
>>84259686
>>84259695
>>84259708
>>84259742
>>84259744
Why are you guys responding to bait?
Everybody on here knows that the Christmas Specials are never good
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>>84259373
The series is far more interesting if humans don't know about aliens
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>>84259591
So is Bill the most forgettable companion of the entirety of nuWho? Regardless of whether or not you liked other companions more or less, you can't deny that they were all more memorable in some way.
>Rose
>Mickey
>Jack
>Martha
>Donna
>Wilf
>Amy
>Rory
>Clara
>Nardole
>Bill

I honestly think once there's a new companion everyone will forget about Bill completely. Even fucking Mickey was more memorable.
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>>84259714
No but it's not going to be the only thing I ever talk about ever, and f you were to watch me on TV for 45 minutes a week I might never mention it if you pick the right 45 minutes
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>>84259656
not really considering he was just living the same day or two over and over again with no memory of doing it.
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>>84259783
The fact she still had an intact face in there was another big one.
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>>84259758
The literal second he showed up on screen.
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>>84259761
Who's talking about all the time? I just want there to be actual consequences for once. There is zero tension regarding anyone The Doctor gives a fuck about because we know they'll be fine one way or the other so unless they shake things up occasionally it results in a very bland experience.

>>84259752
>now

Going by that Logic the real Doctor hasn't existed since some way into Old Who.
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>>84259755
>If Moffat doesn't tie things up and explain how Simm escaped gallifrey isn't gonna be awful. It already sucked that Missy escaping the Daleks in series 9 wasn't explained properly. I hope there are references clear and cut to the End of Time or dropped.
Why you fucking autist need to be told every single thing that happened and how it happened?
Just leave it tou your imagination
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>>84259839
rude
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>>84259755
This ha to be a troll because it's an established thing that they have never explained how the Master escaped from anywhere
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>>84259802
Bill isn't gonna be so non-memorable once she kills the First Doctor or some bullshit Moffat will cook up.
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>>84259848
yeah dude
the doctor's a fake
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>>84259802
I agree even her theme tune is bland as fuck
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The music was pretty good in this episode.
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>>84259795
Last Christmas was comfy christmas kino m8
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>>84259441

Wait were the invasions actually erased from time for everyone or was the crack just making her specifically forget?
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Series 10 soundtrack WHEN
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>>84259928
never ever
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>>84259758
When they started watching the time dilated video feed

>>84259783
Canon, pic related
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>>84259802
>So is Bill the most forgettable companion of the entirety of nuWho?
Isn't that Rory? The only memorable thing about him is that he's a married cuck
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>>84259802
She is legit the worst companion of nuwho and by some margin. Everyone else had a far more important role but her whole bit has been about race and sexual orientation. How the fuck did we go from a girl that looked into the heart of the Tardis itself to a chick that can't stop telling absolutely everyone that shes gay?
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>>84259928
This episode was the only one where I thought the soundtrack sounded ok
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Why does Murray only try when it's a finale?
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I don't really buy the Master's reason for wearing a disguise. The Mondasians surely wouldn't recognize him, especially if this takes place pre-1986. And it must have been very uncomfortable to wear that mask all day every day.
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I was looking at the top of the IV drip, to see if it said "Morphine" or whatever, because the nurse said "There, all better now." so I thought it was some sort of painkillers, then that volume reveal.

Damn, I know I sound like a redditor but that genuinely terrified me.
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>>84259971
How do you know he's not trying?
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>>84259989
Its so Bill wouldnt recognize him
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The Doctor Falls reminds me of 28 days later where the humans are held up in the farm house whilst all the zombies break in. Replace that with Cybermen,
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>>84259989
just turn off your brain and enjoy doctor who
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>>84259928
Were you trying to upload a webm with sound here?
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>>84260001
So he only started wearing it after Bill showed up? Didn't anyone else think it was weird?
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>stomping
>robotic
Does Moffat get off by ruining things?
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>>84259758
As soon as I saw Razor because /who/ is as bad as the BBC when it comes to spoilers.
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>>84259989
Sort of thing Simm's master would do just for kicks.
>"I think what the Cybermen really need, right now, is a master."
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>>84259928
Reminder that this could have been a single shot pan.
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>>84259910
I don't remember, honestly, but I was under the impression it literally unwrote events

Fucking with memory might make more snes
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There are Ruskies here right? what did you faggots think of Simms Russian accent?
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>>84260028
>original cybermen were all white so had flesh coloured hands
>now they need flesh coloured gloves because they're all played by niggers
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>>84260022
Nah, rendered it without sound. But you what I'm referring to.
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>>84259955
It's kind of time the companion has a less important role, imo. Clara was too fucking 'important' and their relationship became really grating 'I'd die for you uwuwuwuwu' which has pretty much been all of the NuWho companions; and yes, Bill has done some of that--but it hasn't been as bad because they barely know each other (which is a whole different problem), but at least they're attempting to move away from the 'I can't live without you' shit.
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>>84259955
>People complain when the companions are important
>People complain when the companions aren't important
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>>84260056
It didn't sound too russian to me.
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>>84260027
He'd have to wear it from the beginning, and I assume he'd be planning this for a long time
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>>84259755
the master coming back with no explanation is fucking tradition, nuvian
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>>84260028
>"You're a Cyberman, you're part of a hivemind!"
FUCKING MOFFAT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>84260028
Do you think Moffat specifically wrote in the script that the Cybermen had to be robotic and stompic? other people were in charge of that
This "hurr moffat ruins everything" meme needs to stop you sound like tumblrinas
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>>84260056
I didn't even think of it as a russian accent. Was it intended to be?
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>>84259955
>How the fuck did we go from a girl that looked into the heart of the Tardis itself to a chick that can't stop telling absolutely everyone that shes gay?
>Days of old, Doctor, you had companions who could absorb the time vortex! This one's useless.
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>>84260105
>>84260056
>>84260132
>there are americans here
That was Gypsy.
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Reminder that fucking Mondasian cybermen are going to FLY next week. This is so retarded.
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>>84260129
>meme
It's no longer a meme, it's a reality
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>>84260172
FUCK
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>>84260116
I guess we still don't know exactly why he's there (or why he ends up forgetting he was ever there), but I didn't get the impression he was expecting the Doctor to show up. Maybe though.
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>>84260172
D R O P P E D
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BASED MURRAY
BASED MURRAY
BASED MURRAY

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG9YwohxI0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG9YwohxI0g
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG9YwohxI0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG9YwohxI0g
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Bill is a classic case of casted for her skin colour. Her acting is terrible. She can't do scenes on the level of Capaldi, Simm or Gomez and the series has suffered because of it. Coleman whilst she stayed too long was a great actress on par with Capaldi which is why you faggots enjoyed Capaldi's first two series.
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Simm sounded like the blind guy from psychoville, it was comic. Only an autist would be suprised it was him after the tea scene.
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So the handlebars inhibit the pain? Or were they just saying that so Bill didn't start screaming?
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>>84260077
I actually agree it got really fucking ridiculous with Clara but they went too far in the opposite direction will Bill who is a non-entity. Nardy however has been very entertaining and he should have been the main and only companion. Bill unfortunately is only there to tick the diversity box it seems which Is a damn shame.

>>84260083
Balance anon. Don't make them vital to the Doctors existence but don't have them as they physical form of a facebook friend you only added to boost your number.
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>>84260226
>Coleman was a great actress on par with Capaldi
Good one, anon.
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Murray's score for the pre-titles scene was SHIT
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How many sleeps till no moffat who?
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If the singing towers of Darillium tune doesn't play when Capaldi regenerates we RIOT!
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>>84260262
Dare I say the whole pre-titles scene was shit
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Capaldi is going to die by screaming NOOOOOOOOOOO? And you guys said 'I don't want to go' was shit.
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>>84259989
the master being extra, what else is new
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>>84260269
184
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Yeah a lot of people on GB are saying Marshall is doing a non harsh Northern Irish accent for the role. The role was offered to Dylan Moran first but he declined. Chibnall wanted an ''Irish Doctor''. to Freshen things up.
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That was the spookiest episode in a long time
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>>84260210
>or why he ends up forgetting he was ever there
Shortening of the time whatever, it's established that Time Lords don't remember their encounters with their previous selves
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>>84260172
Why do they fly? Why do they even stomp? There's not even enough heavy metal to make that stompy sound. Why Steven?! WHY YOU DO THIS????
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What's wrong with "i dont want to go"? It was the highlight of a weak ep.
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>>84260287

I bet he's saying "noooo" because he's trying to hold it off, and does, then properly regens after his adventure with 1.
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>>84259989
Work has dried up for Simm, needed more screentime and to be credited with two roles.

What was Gypsy Master's name, anyway?
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>>84260329
This isn't true. End this stupid meme potato fag
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That scene where Bill was all angry that the Doctor had 'turned bad' and was going to shoot him praised to high heaven 'what good acting! so emotional!' I was just like, who fucking cares? The moment didn't sell. There's been literally no moment in this series where they've made me emotionally attach to Bill, which is the whole fucking point of having a companion.
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>>84260344
You have to go back
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>>84260245
The handlebars inhibit emotion, meaning you don't care about the pain, I thought
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>>84260340
>metal boots on a tile floor
What sound do you want them to make? Squelching?
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>>84260329
DYLAN MORAN FOR MEDDLING MONK PLEASE CHIBNALL, MORAN LIKE CAPALDI MAKES EVERYTHING BETTER HE'S IN.
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>>84260062
This.

Conversations on companions are over /who/. This guy's solved it
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>>84260371
I agree
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>>84260366
It is. You will see next week. When a Belfast accent comes out of the quick scene Marshall is in.
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>>84260390
You don't need emotions to care about pain though. Unless pain itself is an emotion.
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>>84260403
Are you sure you replyied to the correct person
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Is this one of Murray's greatest tracks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnXUIYpWM5o
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>>84260428
Daleks are in constant pain, it drives their hate
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>>84260428
Well having no emotions would make you stop thinking "ah, fuck, I'm really annoyed at all this pain I'm in and it makes me sad and angry", and would allow you to get on with shit, anyway
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>>84260391
metal on tile makes a "clack" sound, it doesn't sound like a giant hydraulic fucking piston.
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>>84260428
They feel it, and it hurts, but they register it as simply an indication of a fault rather than something to cry about.

See also: old tumour ridden dogs who are constantly in pain but don't whine because they don't see any point
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>>84260462
I guess so.
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>>84260246
>>84259955
>I don't like Clara because she was too important!!!
>I don't like Bill Because she wasn't important enough!!!

wew lad the state of this fucking general
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>>84260530
>blatantly ignoring my statement about balance just so you could shitpost

You're not wrong there M8.
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all of the doctors are ugly. fact.
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>>84260329
i remember like 10 years ago hoping moran was gonna be 11
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I approve on the Time Lord view on Gender. I'm a straight man, and love being male, but i'd also love to turn into a beautiful long haired brunette woman and be fucked hard by a big black dick sometimes.
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This episode relied HEAVILY on Mondasian Cyberman reveal and Master reveal. And BOTH things were spoiled by official sources.
What did BBC mean by this?

Chibnall is known for his secrecy on set. I bet he will not only ban set reporters, but will also bad journalists who spoil too much on their own (for example radiotimes who spoiled literally every intruguing plot point)
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>>84260428
Pain isn't an emotion it's just your brain telling you something's wrong with your body and that you should do something to try and stop it.
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>>84260530
>the state of this fucking general
liking this meme desu
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My problem with Bill is that she is just too generic, apart from being a black lesbian that's slightly curious I cant really remember anything else about her.
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NUMBER THIRTEEN HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED
>NUMBER THIRTEEN HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED
NUMBER THIRTEEN HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED
>NUMBER THIRTEEN HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED
NUMBER THIRTEEN HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED
>NUMBER THIRTEEN HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED
NUMBER THIRTEEN HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED
>NUMBER THIRTEEN HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED
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>>84259656
Actually, the real doctor is dead at the end of face the raven.
The one we see now is just one of the many clone during heaven sent.
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all of the doctors are hot . fact.
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THE THIRTEENTH DOCTOR
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>>84260567
I'm similar. Being male is what I do best but if I was a Timelord I would certainly choose to be a woman at least once so I could have filthy lesbian sex over and over until my next regen.
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>>84260530
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>>84260567
>the absolute state of doctor who fans
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>>84260646
Young Colin and Hurt are VERY HOT and I say it as a straight male.
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>>84260646
>young davison
>just davison
Top kek.
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>>84260656
kiddy fiddler
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EMERGENCY
EMERGENCY
THE DOCTOR IS REGENERATING
THE DOCTOR IS REGENERATING
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>>84260625
Nah, the real Doctor died in Counter Plot
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>>84260701
speaking of counter plot, im going to watch carnival of monsters
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>>84260646
Capaldi has aged like a fine wine.
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>>84259802
>So is Bill the most forgettable companion of the entirety of nuWho?
No that's Pete. Look. You didn't even list him.
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>>84260733
>who is Adam
No really, who is he?
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The colony ship was literally part reused Papal mainframe ship CGI.
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I don't know where I am.
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>>84260732
He looks like a scarecrow in this series, dude.
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>>84260567
It was nice that they put in a reminder that the Master used to be male, since he last appeared as such 7 years ago.
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Tbh I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM, SENPAI!
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>>84260830
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>>84260646

dat pic obviously heavily modified. all of the doctors are ugly. fact. irrefutable.
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>>84260878
Body of Straw, and a mind that will never age.
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I was 26 when The Eleventh Hour came on tv. When Moffat and Capaldi bow out on Christmas Day I will have turned 34 by then.

You?
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>>84260684
>>84260690

but when they played the doctor they're ugly. fact.

>>84260656

fact.
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Simm didn't create the Cybermen you twats. The Mondassian Doctor and possibly others did. Razor was just a handyman.

In the next time trailer you can clearly see the Cybermen attack Simm and Capaldi seems to be trying to convince them to stand with him against them.
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>Missy's whole "Dr. Who" bit
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I really hope this guy will do something as good and as charming as "Rose" and we will stop pretending to like fun-free consequences-less terribly paced bollocks we usually get now.
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>"Oh, the two parter? Well the first part shows the unfinished Cybermen, the Cyber babies! - But don't worry, part two will have the Cybermen we know and love, with detatchable heads and flying boots."
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>>84260948
13 -> 21
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>>84260948
I was 11 when Eleventh Hour came. By Christmas 2017 I will be 19.
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This episode is the ultimate pleb filter. So many plebs creaming their panties because there are OLD DOCTOR WHO Cybermen in it and a COMPANION DEATH in it and a REGENERATION TEASER in it and TWO MASTERS in it, while ignoring the overall dire quality of scriptwriting and frankly disappointing direction from Talalay.
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>>84260951
>The Mondassian Doctor
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>>84260964
headcanon: The Doctor actually called himself Doctor Who when he was younger but then dropped it because he thought it sounded too silly
That's why he's always doing these Doctor Who jokes
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>>84261004
What's wrong with direction? I thought it was alright.
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the master is the cyber davros!?!11
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>>84261004
A pleb filter is supposed to be something that plebs can't appreciate.
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>>84260646
>>84260684
>>84260690
>all of the doctors are ugly
>disagrees by citing examples from before they played the role

Imbecile (You)
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>>84261008
I think he means the surgeon guy
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>>84260732

More like a bleached prune, you blind baboon.
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Robots charging a farm house? MOFFAT YOU THIEF he stole it from Star Wars wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdg7p1_dR0s
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honestly for post-crisis moff this was pretty much as good as we can expect. the creepy stuff was genuinely creepy, the funny stuff was genuinely funny (for once) and even the character stuff was okay because it was mostly focused on the only 2 characters he actually cares about

i mean it's not heaven sent but i can't think of any other eps he's written in recent years that even come close to this. too bad next week will likely follow his 6 year tradition of diabolical finale conclusions
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>>84261002

i love you <3
>>
The writing/direction really were mostly terrible lol like 'hey, let's have a practically 3 minute long scene of just the word pain repeated over and over again even though most of the non-idiotic audience KNOWS that they're being converted into cybermen! SUSPENSE!!!!'
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>>84260696
Why does this look like the underside of Red Dwarf
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How long till I can buy a sonic marker pen?
>>
Were you emotionally attached to the characters in Torchwood? Were you sad when Tosh and Owen died?
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>>84260970
I really hope he does is own thing and/or is a combination of the best aspects of both eras. I like that depth of characterization of the RTD era but, sometimes it's like a soap, fucking Corrie in space as I used to hear it called by the haters. Appreciated the Moffat's era return to a strong sci-fi feeling but, sometimes that was at the expense of a proper feeling of humanity in the episodes. I appreciated that the Moffat era had a stronger connection to the older series than the RTD era did but, things definitely got to the point where it's being written for medium to hardcore fans rather than something that almost anyone could pick up and get into like Russel's era.

I hope for a decent balance between for the normies and for the anoraks with Chris' era.
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>the master made the cybermen
Why isn't there more autistic screeching about this?
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>>84261150
t. ADHD pleb
>>
Reminder that I will swallow a sock and post it on /who/ if Christmas isn't a tie-in to The Tenth Planet.

>reminder that there's an unseen gap at the end of Tenth Planet where 1 walks back to his TARDIS, and he delivers the line "It's far from being all over" with complete confidence
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>>84261170
Owen was my spirit animal.
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>>84260948
14, 22
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>>84261011
DOCTOR DISCO TITLES WHEN
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>>84261208
back to plebbit with you
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Can't wait for Crapaldi, the egg and the BLM bitch and the tranny Master to fucking leave. Bring on Chibnall already!
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>missy is going to be good I swear
>no she isnt haha lmao she's together with the master
I don't get it.
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>>84261248
b-but i like qt smart japs just like him
>>
>>84261150
Wow what's it like to be an actual factual plebiscite?
>>
>>84261163
>the new function of the latest Sonic is a fucking marker pen

This whole series has been one big disappointment.
>>
moff is so crap at reveals and cliffhangers

watching the last 15 mins of bad wolf or utopia and then compare it to stuff like this
>>
Reminder that pepe and kek already appeared in DW

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Urbankan

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Josiah_W._Dogbolter
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>>84261150
The PAIN thing was godawful. I hate it in Doctor Who when Moffat writes these retarded repeated lines thinking they're either spooky or epic.

>HEY WHO TURNED OUT THE LIGHTS
>EGGS EGGS EGGS EGGS
>DOCTOR WHO DOCTOR WHO DOC-TOR...WHO?

Makes watching this show with family a deeply humiliating experience.
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Why did they drop this guy?
He's amazing talented director, who is passionate about Doctor Who. Did they really have to kick him out?
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>>84261273
She was merely pretending in the hope the Doctor would eventually let her go. But then she figured he'd never forgive her for cybering Bill and she'd rather team up with her past self.
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>>84260948
17, 24
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>>84261356
I think she is secretly working towards betraying her past self.
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>>84261337
This must be bait. "Pain" isn't a meme line or a joke or a meta reference, it's an expression of constant physical pain. It's not the same thing at all.
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>TFW I know how to convince Eccleston to come back.

Tell him how much his Doctor means to vulnerable and autistic children.
>>
>>84260948
13, 21
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>>84261452
Too l8 m8, the kids from his run are grown up now.
>>
>>84259758

When he started talking weird shit about tea. I realized that they wouldn't waste so much time on developing another wacky side character with two Masters already in the story.
>>
Wow, knowing literally every reveal and plot point in advance from the trailers and official teaser stuff completely put a damper on this episode. The whole episode is basically about the mystery of it all, but literally the next time trailers gave it all completely away. It went from suspense to dramatic irony, but not on purpose so it was incredibly weak.

I also felt the time dilation was a total waste; if Bill had a stronger theme of "waiting for the Doctor" or even waiting/patience in general, her deal this episode would've been much stronger. Otherwise, the time distortion gimmick made for a cool premise but ultimately wasn't used in very interesting or creative ways. It contributed nothing to the story that couldn't have worked just fine if Bill was down below for a couple hours or just days and the Doctor and pals werent just taking a while to make their way down. I hope it's used to the fullest somehow in the next episode. Feels a bit of a wasted opportunity.

Enjoyed it overall though. Especially the direction. The first act was fantastic. The pre-credits, then the setup/arrival scene, Bill gets shot, then we go to flashbacks and have some incredibly comfy slice of life bits that really give the episode its emotional backbone, and then we're back in the present and everything looks fucked. It felt so tight and well done, like a proper show that knows what it's doing and is excited about doing it. To contrast, literally every moment of the Monk trilogy felt incredibly hollow and unfocused. It's a real damn shame the rest of series 10 (aside from Pilot which in its entirety shared the perfect vibe and direction of the first third of World Enough) didn't get the same loving treatment and decent/great writing this episode got.

One last note is that the volume knob bit is the most horrifying thing moff has come up with and managed to stick in an episode, imo. It's simple and it's horrifying and unexpected. Reminded me a lot of the "don't cremate me" reveal
>>
>>84260210
>why he ends up forgetting he was ever there

for the same reason the Doctor forgets his meetings with the other selves until the oldest incarnation lives through them.
>>
>Jacobi Master hated how he was killed by a girl
>Eventually becomes a girl
>>
I hate these backwards reveal ass episodes, they're always so boring.

And this season isn't bad, but I miss when this show was fun. It's been super serious since Series 6 and I enjoyed Series 6.
>>
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>>84261262
>>
>he's not a simmchad:

https://twitter.com/SirReii/status/878753823183036417
>>
If Kris Marshall is the nu doctor I am finished with this show.
>>
>>84260428

pain is not intrinsicaly unpleasant without any emotions - otherwise people would not enjoy spicy food or rough sex.
>>
>>84261779
he sort of has a Kevin Bacon look about him
>>
Sometimes when music was supposed to be dramatic it was jolly and fun
Anyone noticed that?
>>
>>84261201
>reminder that there's an unseen gap at the end of Tenth Planet where 1 walks back to his TARDIS, and he delivers the line "It's far from being all over" with complete confidence
Um, he says "Its far from being all over" whilst stumbling free of his restraints with the Cybermen... and then walks back to the TARDIS
>>
>>84261859
He sort of has a nauseating look about him. I can't help but see his silly self from My Family and he looks a bit like Rupert Grint. That same dopey face. I cannot take him seriously.
>>
>>84261818
Rough sex isn't actually painful, lad, just abrasive. Like a strong wind.
>>
>when Alfred Enoch isn't the 13th Doctor
>>
>>84261711
But he was on there a long time before Missy showed up.
>>
I think the best part was when Twelve didn't even respond when The Master walked into the room. He was just shocked, beyond belief. He had no words. That's how good the episode was.
>>
Why were the Cybermen feeling pain? Cybermen don't feel pain.
>>
>Bill dies or almost dies every episode
why
>>
>>84262051
>companion almost dies every episode
becos it's doctor who
>>
>>84259479
I really hope so. I want to find out ASAP, and I don’t want the identity leaked.
>>
>>84262046
They weren't fully converted yet. The handlebars seemed to remove pain.
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KINO
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>>84261920
they could give him a wacky wardrobe and goofy personality, then you wouldn't have to take him seriously
>>
Man. Next series will be the first since the return without a Moffat written story. Sad face.

/who/ HOW DOES THIS MAKE YOU FEEL
>>
>>84262076
They stated to remove emotion, and to stop you caring about the pain
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>>84262051
>12 teases regeneration every episode
>>
Wait, so did the colonists get on the ship before the black hole incident or during?

Or are the people down there descendants of the 20 crewmembers?
>>
>>84262147
So the Cybermen are constantly in pain, just don't respond to it?
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>>84262100
I had to look up 'rapt', I thought he meant raped or something

But kek it was like she was watching a reconstruction
>>
>>84262145
Relieving
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>>84262172
If so they'd be inbred as fuck. Thankfully they all looked white, my sortof colony.
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>>84262179
It's possible

>>84262145

Unsure about the quality
All of Moffat's openers have been decent, sans maybe Asylum
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>>84262128
That's even worse.

Anyhow. Interesting the discussion about gender they had. Maybe this was Moffat basically telling the audience to stop fucking asking about a female doctor for the next regeneration. It seems too obvious to suggest anything else.
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>>84262224
Hundreds of years of incest, they should look a lot more terrible.

I mean, they're bongs already, but like they should be even more bongey
>>
>>84262231
>>84262179
I mean, they have to be, there's no way they could have their rogans dplayed all across their body with pipes and tubes through them without it being extremely painful.
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>>84262263
It's much worse than I though, Mondasian bongs!
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>>84262240
>It seems too obvious to suggest anything else
As someone said earlier, The Master hasn't appeared as male onscreen for 7 years, so it could just be reminding us of the fact that Time Lords can change gender for that reason

But there have been a lot of references to and depictions of cross gender/race regenerations in Moff's era
>>
Is it over? I haven't seen it. Is Missy really the master or just some cunt he hired?
Is Bill dead?
Did The Master regenerate?
Did The Doctor regenerate?
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>>84262289
It'd explain why they're too weak to leave and have to convert

Incest fucked them all up
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>>84262100
kek
>>
Whoever makes the next thread don't forget to put /who/ in the title
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>>84261920
same, his face kind of annoys me
then again matt smith's face annoyed me
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>>84262337
Try watching it it's quite good

>>84262100
Tfw Clayton Hickmann liked one of my tweets
>>
NEW
>>84262411
>>84262411
>>84262411
>>
>doctor is shot by cyberman
>regeneration starts
>he regenerates
>it's kris marshall
>no. no, i'm not ready yet.
>he degenerates back into capaldi
>he defeats cybermen
>he goes to ice planet to resist his regeneration

screencap this
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>>84262431
>he goes to ice planet to resist his regeneration
ice planet is the South Pole on Earth
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>>84262337
Yes.
She was The Doctor all the time!
Yes.
No, dead.
Yes.
>>
>>84262263
are we talking about the royal family now
>>
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I loved seeing Zathras again, even if it was in a different franchise!
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>>84259997

But then you think 'hang on, why do they even have sound systems attached? Nobody wants to hear them' and it seems stupid.
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>>84260210

He has to have been expecting somebody from not long after 2007 on Earth, most likely British, to be there, otherwise 'remembering he was Prime Minister' isn't an issue at all.
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>>84263142

its an IV / speaker system. at some point it would have been used for those who did have trouble speaking but since everyone was getting turned into robots I imagine she just didn't care anymore and mutes them.
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