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Based RTD

>>84255813
>have new-style voices.

no they don't. or do you think the Spare Parts voices are new-style? because they were the exact same as the World Enough and Time ones..

>>84255907
>Series 9: false advertising

fixed

NEXT DOCTOR STRAWPOLL
REMINDER THE QUESTION IS WHO **SHOULD** BE THE NEXT DOCTOR, NOT WHO IS
http://www.strawpoll.me/13259634

If all these cybermen get destroyed as well as iron men cibbers. Does that mean Chibbers will make his own design?

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post rare rare TARDISes.

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RTDchad thread now, lads.

>tfw I love Capaldick but that was the first episode with him I enjoyed

Moffat is shit

>moffat just rehashing anything RTD this season

WEW

>>84255836
>ship cybermen just happen to evolve exactly the same way as their future incarnations

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>>84255949

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Would this have been the kino finale?
>http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Journey%27s_End_(TV_story)?oldid=116177
>the Doctor meets an even greater enemy than Davros......PRINCE PHILIP, DUKE OF EDINBURGH
>Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh/ Philip Trooper commander - Himself
>Davros actually works for Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Leader of the Darkness
>After the events of Voyage of the Damned, Prince Philip murders Queen Elizabeth II to Become King, them makes contact and Employs Davros to help him take over the entire universe
>Prince Philip is or leads the darkness
>Prince Philip made the Crucible
>The reason why the daleks are enslaving the humans is because Prince Philip want to convert them to an army of Philip Troopers (Genetically modified humans, who look identical and think like Prince Philip, these creatures are created in a similar fashion to Pig slaves)
>The reason why "The bees are dissapearing" is because, Prince Philip wants to harvest them for honey for his new product, 'Duchy Originals Honey Nut Cookies'.
>Prince Philip was behind the scenes of Torchwood episodes 'Captain Jack Harkness' and 'End of Days’. Bilis Manger works for Prince Philip
>The Trickster is in fact Prince Philip

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>>84255959
He shouldn't be getting away with it!

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>>84255895
FUCK OFF RTD KEK
YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE
THIS THREAD IS PROTECTED

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>>84255948

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>>84255916

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reminder that 75% of /who/ regulars prefer steven moffat to russell t. davies

>>84255836
Are those actual Lumic Men? or do they somehow "evolve" and skip out the 80's variant complete? Their lack of budget to cast new Cybersuit moulds is glaringly obvious.

>>84255985
what was the deal with the wood interior again?

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>>84255959
And doing it a hundred times better

When I first watched I thought it was ultimate kino because "kill me" and "pain" caught me off-guard, Simm reveal was done nicely, core concept of time dilation is a strong idea.

But after the initial excitement I'm finding a lot of flaws.
World is too underdeveloped for my liking, "doctor who is his real name I swear" part was draggy, I still don't really care about Bill, but that hole in the chest thing was brutal.
It's still much better than some of the episodes this series *cough* monks *cough* but it's certainly not a perfect example of good storytelling

I give it 7/10

>>84255945
>9 votes for Tom Rosenthal
I want them OUT of my /who/

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>>84256013
RTDchads never give up. You have no chance against us.

>>84256037
Hinchcliffe wanted a console room which better reflected his style and era.

>>84256061
This

RTDchads are the viewing audience.

We are the normies

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Would prefer to fuck Cybillwoman or Narbille?

>>84256057
The kill me part definitely caught me off guard too. Very dark compared to what I'm used to in the Moffat era

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>>84256061
I WILL NEVER REST UNTIL YOU LEAVE MY GENERAL
>>84256082
>actually admiting to be a normie

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>>84256082
"normie" is not a good thing you absolute plebeian

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>>84255580
Oy Vey

Wordl Enought of Trips or Nightmare in Pooper?

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>>84256139
>>84256140

>normie

We even watch Doctor Who with our girlfriends. RTDchads are just superior.

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>>84256172
>>84256172
forgot pic

>>84256178
>Watch Doctor Who
>has a girlfriend
What is this bullshit? Did RTD wrote this?

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>>84256178
>implying i havent participated in several orgies whilst watching my own personal copy of the daleks' master plan courtesy of philip morris

>>84256139
>>84256140
Without normies, /who/ gets no ratings.

You didn't really think autists can keep this show going, did you?

Name moffat aliens that were memorable or recurring or had cool lore which built between seasons.

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https://twitter.com/0hMySt4rs/status/878644169379647488

MOND ASS

>>84256205
>moff likes hobnobs too

we are twin flames.

>>84256219
you haven't even seen your own dick in 7 years

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What was meant by this?

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>>84256236
River Song

>>84256236
The silence?

>>84256236

Weeping Angels

>>84256236
The Vashta Nerada the Weeping Angels The Silence The Veil The Clockwork Droids

>>84255836
They upgraded CIA?

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>>84256219
>>84256218
Moffags are doomed to become wizards.

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Was the icy planet Mondas?
Does this retcon Cybermen origin? Did Cybermen on the ship and Cybermen on Mondas develop independantly from each other?
Where did the ship come from? Was it originally from Mondas? If so, how are there blue men and presumably other non-humans? Was it an ark meant to escape dying Mondas? Or was it headed for Mondas?

>>84256253
because it is so long that i have to pull it over my head (so it doesnt drag on the ground) and it covers my eyes yes

>>84256264
DUDE THEY ARE JUST SUPER PRIESTS LMAO

>>84256264
>been there since forever
>manipulated humans
>needed a human 1960s spaceship and a spacesuit despite being from the distant future
>genocided by unaware human beings
>can stand up to the Daleks for hundreds of years despite falling to human bullets

lol wot?

>>84256224
Reminder that Moffat made the show popular in THE WHOLE WORLD
Matt Smith was the first Doctor for a lot of people

>>84256297
Cringe.

>>84256255
>Essentially, at the end of season ten, doctor who will finally get to say goodbye to two of Doctor Who's biggest scottish twats.
fucking kek

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>>84256178
implying most RTD female fans are not tumblr land-whales.

>>84256236
Weeping angels
Vashta nerada

>>84256335
TRUE AND BASED

>>84256335
That's only because of the push to America

And even there normies prefer Tenninch

>>84256173
It still works.
Spare Parts takes place on Mondas in its final day, while tonigh's takes place on a spaceship with mondasian.
Both feature very early cybermen.
In Spare parts the Doctor si the basis for every cybermen, which is utter fanwank, and os is bill being one of the first ones.
Davison sounds weird because is a smoker, but apart form that it's very good. I'm a bit sad that he's got cancer now .

>>84256347
>No wig or hairstyle effort
trash

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>>84256224
RTDchads are the heart and soul of Doctor Who.

Imagine punching this far above your weight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USEV8XTBG0s

>>84256389
He's probably her gay mate.

>that episode where the Doctor takes a viewer on a christmas charol like journey to show them how not paying their BBC liscense fee caused them to die alone and a violent facist regime lead by nigor faradge to come to power
Weird one that

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>>84255580
>be muslim doctor
>force female companion to stand 5 feet behind me and wear her space hijab at all times
>track down all gay side characters from RTD/Moffat eras
>throw them off buildings
>female companion objects
>cut off her hand and buy new female companion
>go on adventure
>get chased by infidaleks
>have to stop every five minutes to pray towards space mecca
>see companion eating bacon sandwich
>absolutelyharam.jpg
>throw her out of tardis from 1,000 feet in the air
>crash tardis into skyscraper
>regenerate
>tfw when only been two episodes

>no comfy chiquegeeks reactions anymore

Make a valid argument that proofs RTD>Moffat without saying "hehehehe we're more popular rtd chads 4 evah xD"

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reminder than tennant wears a wig

>PAIN PAIN PAIN PAIN PAIN PAIN PAIN PAIN PAIN

>KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME

Gotta say those scenes were creepy as fuck.

>>84256465
Seething moffag doesn't understand how opinions and taste word. Probably an autistic virgin, please have sex buddy.

>>84256452
The uploaded The Pilot recently

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>>84256483
reminder capaldick is letting his dick go

RTD Doctors
>successful varied careers
>respectable

Moffot Doctors
>careers dead
>typecast
>made cringeworthy (just like the worse muh golden age docs)

Hmm makes you think about the quality of the show.

>>84256465
iT wAs GrOunDeD iN ReAliTy xddd

>>84256504
rtdcucks arguments everyone

>>84256522
Deep in Jenna's sweet wet pusy.

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>>84256547
Angry there, buddy?

>>84256524
Literally only one Moffat doctor has actually finished acting for the show, calm down

>>84256465
Opposite is easy. Series 9 has the highest average episode rating of all series 1-10(so far) on IMDb.

Kino episode. Too bad Bill's cyberconversion is 100% definitely getting undone, it's too horrifying not to.

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>>84256565

The silence is moffat's self insert. RTD comes back to save the franchise next season then regenerates into his true successor, screencap this.

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don(t you dare

I stopped watching after Tennant left, why have the ratings dropped so much?

>>84256611

retawredsfgdhRS

>>84256611
take a (You)

>>84256599
Moffat is agp trans lesbian hon

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>>84256599
Don't steal my brand new gif!!

— Smallfat

>>84256524
>implying what an actor does has jackshit to do with the showrunner they worked for
Also what the fuck are Tennant and Eccles doing these days?

>>84256632
Because the BBC put it in a shitty time slot and stop advertising the show

>>84256611

Oh fuck

TENNANT WIG PROOFS NOW

>>84256611
Delete yourself

>>84256465
It had better characters. Call it eastenders writing XD if you want, but how characters reacted on the alien stuff, how they talked to each other - it was much more realistic, and so that relatable.
I like Earth Invasion stories, I liked it in classics, Rusty is a fucking genius about these, I love how people remember what happened in-universe, I love that there are consequences.
I love that show isn't centered around the Doctor himself, but rather around either actual plot in the particular episode, or about companions.

>>84256632
You answered your own question there

>>84256356
Weeping angels belong to RTD honey

>>84256632
Because this show is old as fuck and people get bored

>>84256657
Tennant is in the new ducktales show and was killgrave in JJ

Eccleston is doing some British show about autism

>>84256632
Because Moffat fucked it up!

Well, I for one really enjoyed that episode lads. The fourth-wall breaking was a little strange at first, but I got used to it. Solid sci-fi concept - harder sci-fi than we've seen from DW in a while anyway. The scenes in the city at the bottom of the ship were solid if not spectacular; Simm-in-disguise was great, was Simm playing the Russian janitor guy or was it someone else? Good reveal, some fun back and forth between the two Masters. Could have been incredibly if it hadn't been in the promos.

>>84256611
reeeeee

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>>84256465
>>84256504
ITT: nuvians arguing with nuvians

Awwww

>>84256689
In what fucking universe?

>>84256689
are you retarded?

>>84256697
>Eccleston is doing some British show about autism

He's coming back to Doctor Who?

>>84256632
We're on series 10, it's been 12 years

>>84256697
>Eccleston is doing some British show about autism

he's coming back to Doctor Who?

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I just want my wetfu

>>84256712
Back to Planet Mondas old man

>>84256689

Nope

>>84256712
Go piss yourself and cry because your kids don't see you anymore, senile Classicfag.

>>84256547
You are detrimental to this general. Never seen one trip able to bring down the quality of /who/ they way you do.

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>>84256285

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>>84256816
>Never seen one trip able to bring down the quality of /who/ they way you do.

that's a compliment i think

>>84256712
Fuck off back into the cupboard, old man. Doctor Who began in 2005.

>>84256611
Reply

https://twitter.com/spankybackpack/status/878731825266511872

https://twitter.com/spankybackpack/status/878731825266511872

https://twitter.com/spankybackpack/status/878731825266511872

>>84256816
>Never seen one trip able to bring down the quality of /who/ they way you do.
Ever heard of Edge Lord Victorious?

>>84256882
Honestly he (Edge I mean) is worse because he does it unironically

>>84256775
>>84256717
>>84256731
The only good weeping angels episode was blink and that was when it was RTD's show children

Cats ironically likes Moffat, it all makes sense now.

hi

shit episode

I miss RTD

can't waith for ChewBalls

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>>84256769

>>84256936
the only good cyberman episodes of new who were the s8 finale and this, so i guess that makes cibsicles a moffat villain too. and the simm master (he's only been good here).

>>84256936
Flesh and Stone/Time of Angels was good and The Angels Take Manhattan has some good moments
Also it doesn't matter when he wrote it don't try to give this one to RTD

>ask people to post moffat aliens
>they steal from the RTD era
>they post generic plot device aliens that have zero consistancy or flavour
I see bullshitting is popular with moffats fans too

reminder that Moffat said he was also talking to Chibnall about how the regeneration would be different

13 IS REVEALED IN THE EPISODE NEXT WEEK LADS GET HYPE

So it's finally settled, RTD has the best Weeping Angel episode.

>>84256465
RTD knew how to structure an episode over 45 minutes to build dramatic tension and then resolved.
A lot of Moffat episodes are realy badly plotted, jump around willy nilly and have poor endings.
Aside from all matters of taste and personal opinion, I unironically believe this is the reason more and more people have stopped watching during the Moffat era and why RTD is a better writer, in the sense that he's a better craftsman, than Moffat. Moffat has a lot of clever ideas, but can't always make the most of them. On the other hand, on some occasions RTD went the easy way and wrote episodes lacking in originality, but it didn't matter because he could write 45 minutes of well-paced television.
A good idea well executed is obviously the best one can hope for, but a mediocre idea with a good execution will generally beat a great idea with a poor execution.

>>84256920
>he

What's with the crap attempts of swearing the last couple of series'? We've had bloodies and arses from clara and bill, an arse from nardy and a (very hastily spewed out) bitch from missy. Is this the writers trying to seem edgy? Are they going down the comic book movie route of starting to swear in things for the kiddies?

>>84256677
Why do you ask for arguments and then never respond to this?

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>>84257039
>steal
Steal?
STEAL!?
THEY ARE MOFFS PROPERTY AND BELONG TO HIS LEGACY YOU FUCKING CUNT

>>84257025
You're an absolute state muffat licker. Just be thankful your shit era didnt kill the show.

>>84257106
Is 6 the ultimate pleb filter?

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>>84257104
Because Moffags are cowards.

>>84257100
>and a (very hastily spewed out) bitch from missy
That's just a follow up to her more luxuriant "the bitch is back" from The Witch's Familiar. Not that there hasn't been "bitch" in Doctor Who since Eccleston

>>84257122
you want to hate moffgod in peace? try >>>/r/doctorwho

>>84257152
But The Doctor is a coward

>>84257166
Then he breaks his own promise.

>>84257086
This is it basically without shitposting.

To start shitposting again are the only people who like those plots bug eyed autists?

>>84257041
would be kino if the madman actually does this

I really liked that episode, but next week looks kind of boring. When I saw the description, "the Doctor tries to protect a tiny band of humans", I got hyped, but from the trailer it looks like absolutely generic base under siege shit except with the non-scary Cybermen and bad CGI.

>>84257086
>>84257218
Well that's your opinion dude

>>84256611
jesus

Space eastenders>space autistic/tumblr pandering fanfiction

>>84257158
forgot about the bitch is back desu. Where was bitch during ecclestone?

>>84257284
We're almost certainly back to space eastenders next year.

>>84257284
I agree desu

>>84257284
>autistic/tumblr pandering fanfiction
Buzzword buzzword. Buzz? Wordbuzz buzzword b.

>>84256611
okay

>>84257299
Rose said something about a bitchy trampoline

>>84257086
>RTD knew how to structure an episode over 45 minutes to build dramatic tension and then resolved.
>A lot of Moffat episodes are realy badly plotted, jump around willy nilly and have poor endings.

Okay but why? Elaborate, give me some examples.

What's going on?

https://m.oddschecker.com/m/tv/doctor-who/next-doctor

>>84257345
ohhhh yeah that was at lady cassandra

>>84256632
Ratings stayed good with Matt Smith.

Then we got a great actor, but he's old and ugly so nobody watches now except die hard fans.

Next actor (most likely male) will be young, pretty and Tennant-ish. And the tweens will flock back.

>>84257284
...but dimensions in time was terrible desu

Can't believe 12's last words are "NOOOOOOOO!"

THE MONDASIAN CYBERMEN FUCKING STOMP!!!

>>84257326
>muffat bot word salad
Like fan, like fucktard

>>84257104
None of that is an argument really

>>84257428
honestly worse than "I dont want to go"

>>84257378
Was Alexander Vlahos listed before? He's great in Versailles.

>>84257472
Provide me some arguments why Moffat is better at showrunning then

>>84257460
Not an argument

Holy SHIT that was a fantastic episode

I can't believe the leaks about the pre-titles sequence the conversion were true. Didn't dampen my appreciation of the episode itself, though.

Be honest, how far into the episode did you call the Master's disguise? For me, it was during the first scene where they watch the time dilated security footage.

>>84257489
I want it to be caused by Bill shooting him just for the irony of it

>>84257428
They aren't
They can't be
They musn't be

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We /georgelucas/ now

>>84257532
>Be honest, how far into the episode did you call the Master's disguise?

first time he appeared

https://twitter.com/GLENJOHNSONPOOL/status/878709724652474368

>>84256611
here have a (you)

>>84257378
I admire your skill.

So The Mirror were right all along?

>And the new Doctor is set to join the show during the 10th series, which kicks off tonight, rather than in the Christmas special.

Our source revealed: "Kris Marshall has already joined the cast and will regenerate at the end of this series, not in the Christmas special.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/new-doctor-who-actor-revealed-10232705

>>84256860

Pottery, bravo Moffat etc

>>84257620
Kek

>>84257652
But didn't Capaldi say he still has to have his Christmas scenes filmed?

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>>84256611

>>84257652
The only nail in the coffin for me is Kris has a young family, and he stated he left DiP to spend more time with them. Doctor who would have him on set all over the show with extensive filming session, possibly being a worse geddup.

>>84256689
>▶
Blink is a Moffat episode you fucking idiot.

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>>84256611

>>84257714
i don't get it

The Christmas special will take place in the Doctor's head during regeneration.
Feel free so screencap this.

We barely got much Simm, did we? He was in disguise most of the time.

>>84257750
So do you think we should count episodes which are written directly by them?

>>84257766
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Winter_(audio_story)

>>84257690

Yeah it looks like the Christmas special is Capaldi and Bradley somehow, I still think we'll see the next doctor next week though.

>>84257766
Nope. The finale is a simulation and the christmas special is the real regeneration

>>84257784
They've said him and Missy will get plenty of scenes next week

>>84256611
You warned me, but I didn't listen.

>>84257763
the browsers anon

>>84257784
>We barely got much Simm, did we?
>He was in disguise most of the time.
Good job answering your own question. We got loads of Simm

>>84256611
fuck you cunt

>reminder that the mondasian cybermen get like 2 minutes screentime including next week because as soon as they go to the lower levels to find the human survivors the cybermen ''evolve'' into their newer versions

>>84255016

Can this work, though? The bottom of the ship is experiencing time much, much faster than the top, but it should still only be experiencing it at 'normal' (for the universe in general) speed (it's the top that's being slowed - the bottom isn't being accelerated, well not THAT much???).
So if the bottom has gone through many years, so has Mondas.

>>84257796
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Nigger

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Does any one have the clean version ofthis?

This is the first episode since The Doctor's Wife to scare me.

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>>84257825
REEEEE FUCK YOU MOFFAT. FUCK IRONMEN CYBERMEN, WE DON'T WANT THEM

>>84257836
Do we know how long it was before Mondasians started converting themselves though?

Why couldn't they just take the lift back up to the top of the ship? Would they age?

Also, nice throwback to Douglas Adam's The Pirate Planet with the inertia elevator/corridor

>>84257854
it was quite fucked up for Who standards

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>>84257856
"You will be downgraded"

>>84257854
What a pussy

>>84257892
That's the mystery m8
We'll get answers next week
of course we won't, it's steven moffat

>The BBC are hoping that the next incarnation of Doctor will be able to tap into the internet's strange meme culture, therefore casting was much more carefully considered than in previous eras of the revival series.
>Their goal is to produce a larger online discussion of Doctor Who and sharing of funny images related to the show to help promote and generate and a larger viewer base among younger audiences.
>We think fans will be quite surprised by the choice of actor who will be taking on the iconic role in BBC's popular series.

>>84257373
Take a terrible RTD episode like New Earth or Voyage of the Damned, two of my least favorites of his. At the start of the episode, the audience are presented with a bunch of characters, those characters are put in danger, the stakes get gradually higher, the true villain is revealed, some characters die, the situation is tied up. If you look at the themes and ideas, those episodes are certainly no Midnight or Children of Earth, but they pass the time.

Now take a great Moffat episode like Listen. The TARDIS jumps from place to place, there's no clear raising of the stakes, characters enter the story and then exit it without really making an impression, until we get to the final scenes where the "mystery" is resolved in a way, but the plot strands don't really come together. Or Extremis, which again consists mainly of jumping from location to location, no character really makes an impact, the story is resolved in a clever way but again the resolution only concerns the Doctor, all those other characters and settings have been left aside.

RTD at his worst was formulaic, but Moffat even at his best leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to building a coherent story.

>>84257856
Bitch he's the first showrunner to have the balls to pull out the clothface cybermen. Don't ree him you aspie

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>>84256611

>>84257921
pepe monsters confirmed.

>>84257856
I actually prefer them to the flared trouser ones. Fite me.

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Of course, they are rather necessary... when you happen to be someone's former PRIME MINISTER

>>84257926
and he immediately ruins it by shoehorning in the boring nuwho ones no one asked for

>>84257728
That's why they're moving to Manchester to film so it's more convenient for him as it's close to where he lives irl.

Dialouge
>RTD, coherent back and forth
>moffat, babbling autistic monolouges

Side characters
>rtd, mostly good at their jobs and frequently prove the doctor wrong
>moffat, incompetent foils to show how smart le doctor is

Companions
>RTD, human beings who grapple with a sometimes inhuman doctor
>moffat, deus ex machina manic pixie dream girls

Plot
RTD, memorable for fans and casuals years later
Moffat, demented hodge pots of good and awful ideas

Ratings
>RTD, revived who
>killed who

>>84257925
>there's no clear raising of the stakes
The possibility of something being out there at the end of the universe is where the stakes are

BUT
Listen is a nonstandard episode, it is deliberately format-breaking, and as such it is a very poor example of an episode to use as an argument for any sort of general statement

''I WILL NEVER STAND WITH THE DOCTOR''

''GET OUT OF THE WAY''

>>84257925
you just compared listen (10/10, best story) to new earth? (1/10, worst story)
kill yourself you have down syndrome

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>>84257973

>>84257938
Why has no one 'shoped a pepe head onto a slitheen?

>>84257938
>Doctor finds himself in ancient egypt
>Alien race that resemble frogs have enslaved humanity
>when they die, they yell out REEEEE

The Mirror got it sort of right

The Doctor briefly regenerates into Kris Marshall and snaps back into Capaldi because he doesn't want to regenerate.

>>84256936

Trying to come off as a patronising know-it-all when you're so fucking incorrect isn't a good look.

>>84257975
Better to have loved and lost?

>>84258024
>The frog leaders name is Kek.

>>84255883

>RTD stuff had its flaws but felt like it was grounded in British life
>this last season has been in some weirdo lefty tv universe that feels nothing like real life.

But real life has been turning into some weird lefty universe.

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>>84257973
If you look carefully

>>84258041
I do get the impression that he had been holding it back in that pre-title scene

What the fuck were all those stupid zooms?

When Simm takes off his mask and when The Doctor says 'A MONDASIAN CYBERMAN!'

>>84258071
What was up with those weird reflections? Moffat wanting to show how bad his special effects team is to the BBC?

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>>84258071
it's someones former prime minister

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What's the official /who/ verdict on Merlin?

>>84258087
>What the fuck were all those stupid zooms?
It's to mimic the RTD Era and it's awful cinematography

>>84258132
Shite budget held it back and got cancelled mid-story

Admit it /who/. Bill was cute as fuck in this.

>>84257989
Then look at The Magician's Apprentice. Or Let's Kill Hitler. Or The Wedding of River Song. Or Hell Bent. All episodes where characters and locations are used and discarded, and the progression is less than coherent.
It's especially noticeable in some episodes, but I believe even his most conventional ones suffer from this, to a lesser extent.

>>84258143
some episodes like blink or empty child or bad wolf or utopia or 42 had amazing cinematography m8

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Just finished. That was god tier. Next week looks like a total shitfest though. It's like Dark Water/Death in Heaven all over again.

Tbh I thought Moffat was about to retcon Mondas into actually being a spaceship to explain how it is used like a fucking spaceship in The Tenth Planet,

I thought maybe The Master could use a chameleon circuit to make Mondas look like a planet. But that's stupid.

Thinking about it, though, Bill couldn't leave the hospital or her chest piece would stop working, right?

Well, in The Tenth Planet, the Cybermen all died when Mondas was destroyed. Like they'd left the hospital.

>>84258132
Campy shit but good fun anyway, not unlike many a doctor who episode.

Kris Marshall is a great actor with weight to him. People doubting him haven't watched his more obscure varied early 2000's movies. He is great nothing like a tennant 2.0, he will be like Eccleston's fun side mixed with Capaldi.

>>84258043
You autistic little freak dont reply to me ever again

>>84256279
>>84256281
>>84256717
weeping angels had the worst lore ever

Why don't they just put as much effort into every story as they do finales?

Why can't every episode have such high stakes? Such good music, cinematography and directing?

They should put as much effort into every story as they would if it were a finale.

>>84258219
in fact in "blink" they had mysterious origins and it was very very cool
but every episode since then moffat just kept changing the rules for plot convinience to the point it's all shit and nothing matters at all

>>84258143
RTD era looked better because there was less in your face good awful cgi and more mixing in physical props. Sound was better too.

>>84258179
All of those particular episodes set out to do a particular thing, and succeed in doing it.

TMA sets out to have the Doctor and Davros dialogue for 45 minutes, Let's Kill Hitler was obviously always going to not be about killing Hitler, TWoRS was about showing all of time happening at once, and Hell Bent, much to the chagrin of people who don't like her, was about Clara, and how dangerous her and the Doctor's relationship became, and how far he was willing to go to save her (too far.)

Moffat is so good partly because he is so brave as to do away with convention, and to use the show's lore and the concept of time travel in such bold an innovative ways, so your argument completely falls flat in my eyes, but you're entitled to your opinion on how the show should be no matter how much I disagree with it

Have a nice day, anon

>>84256053
Is he Jewish?

>>84258256
Money

>>84258219

Tbf they asked for Moffat aliens which were memorable or had great lore. The Angels were the former more than the latter.

https://youtu.be/UYB3RWn2HBk?t=1592 HOLY SHIT MARSHALL IS THE FUCKING DOCTOR IN TRUE FORM WATCH THIS

https://youtu.be/UYB3RWn2HBk?t=1592

ENGLISH MAN PLAYING IRISH DOCTOR KINO CONFIRMED!

>>84258259
>RTD era looked better
Come on now

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How hype are you for Kris /who/

>>84258219
>>84258257

Why did the move in the byzantium episode? I never understood why.

>>84258256
>Why can't every episode have such high stakes
Same reason you can't eat chinese food for dinner every night, you'd get used to it and then sick of it

Remember how annoying it was when every single episode was about the world/universe ending and/or the daleks being destroyed 5ever?

We need some light, adventurous episodes to make the high stake ones that much more satisfying

>>84258281
Do you think Moffat is David Lynch you dumbfuck? His work is improv held together by cliches.

I love the doctor who has been so fucking garbage that an episode that's kinda decent is called god tier.

The whole missy calling herself "doctor who" and talk of gender. This show has been dead for so long.
I love Simm though, so I'll watch for him.

>>84258306
I'll put it this way. I knew Capaldi would be one of the best Doctors yet. And I have faith Kris will too because I was a fan of his like I was a fan of Capaldi's pre-Doctor who too.

>>84256611
scawwy

>>84258359
Capaldi is a good doctor that has been given garbage stories. It's a shame.

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say what you want about the ideas behind this scene but you cant deny this shot was fucking kino

>>84258358
keep us posted

I'd be more worried about Bill if I thought Moffat had the balls to kill a black, gay companion.

>>84258297
>WATCH THIS
>1h 32m long

fuck off m80buoy it's time for beddybyes

>>84258394
What's your point?
All the Doctors have garbage stories.

>>84258394
>Capaldi is a good doctor that has been given garbage stories. It's a shame.
JESUS CHRIST YOU'RE LIKE A BROKEN RECORD ALWAYS SAYING THE SAME SHIT OVER AND OVER AGAIN

>>84258156
Was it cancelled? I thought they always wanted to do 5 seasons

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Reminder Kris was faithed to be the Doctor all along!

>they didn't use simm's theme

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>84256611

fucker

>>84257961
all cybermen post-wheel in space are shit

>>84258396
I spent about 10 minutes of this episode being annoyed that "quay" is pronounced "key"and not "kway"

The statue of liberty thing was cool as fuck i guess, but it made absolutely no sense whatsoever

>>84258468
>mondasian cybermen fly
ruined
ruined
ruined
ruined
ruined

>>84258448
Holy shit he actually suits the part so much!

>>84258468
>Mondasian Cybermen flying

JUST

>>84258462
>I spent about 10 minutes of this episode being annoyed that "quay" is pronounced "key"and not "kway"

americans, eberryone

>You will never be the doctor
might as well just end it now

GB spoiler hounds are saying Kris will adopt a Northern Irish persona and accent for his Doctor.

>DUP Loyalist confirmed.

>>84258358
This so fucking hard. The regulars of these threads are children though and aren't past the stage where they can criticize their favorite thing and assume everything that comes out of the Doctor Who property is amazing without the ability to critically evaluate it. Every episode is amazing, amazing, amazing without question.

The whole season has been pure garbage except for this episode but you just know they'll fuck it up immediately in the next episode, especially with the return of the NuCybermen when the classic Cybermen were just proven to still look spooky and hold up fine. Also what the fuck is up with Bill's actual human body being intact and beneath the suit? Completely fucking ruined any spookiness the episode tried to build. Completely downplayed the whole episode and raises the spectrum of the Doctor being able to reverse the conversion in the next episode.

>>84258183
the red on palms looks excessive

>>84258491
I'm Scottish

the problem with moff is that even though the stakes get higher and higher but in the end none of it means jack fucking shit

rtd would just kill some orphans or whatever and the doctor would cry about it for two seasons, while moffat will kill everyone and everything in the universe and no one will remember it by the next episode

>>84258468
The Doctor isn't even wearing that costume in the finale
also
>MONDASIAN CYBERMAN flying
There better be a good explanation for this

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>>84258468
>Flying modasian cybermen
HYPE

>>84256611
Quit it, Capaldi.

A Scotsman to an Irishman?

was it pottery?

>>84258530
Did Series 10 live up to the hype?

>>84258511
You don't come to /who/ often do you?

>>84258517
>There better be a good explanation for this
You're very optimistic. Implying that there could be a good explanation for... that

>>84258511
Well they feel that most people fall into love it or hate it, actually critiquing here without getting shouted at is just impossible.
Doctor who seems to filled with potential and build up and always fails to give a satisfying end recently. I agree with everything you said, there's no tension for next week.

>>84258565
Not at all. Only good episode has been the Pilot and World Enough and Time.

>>84256611

Better than dying in a fire. Shit, now I've replied.

>>84257975

>nuwho ones

You're acting like metal cybermen aren't a part of classic who, fucking retard.

>>84258565
Not at all

why does bill get bullied by moffat so much

is it because she is gay

>>84258570
There's no need. It's the same shit every time, GOAT EPISODE GOAT EPISODE RETURN OF THE GOLDEN AGE every fucking week. Every episode of this season was abysmal except for the most recent one. You must be an autistic manchild to think otherwise.

>master in disguise whole ep
>master back out of nowhere with no explanation
>Mondasmen
>kill me
>painpainpainpainpainpainpain
>cool use of black hole
>creepy ass voices for mondasmen
>tobias bluth
>that comfy upbeat music at the top of the ship
>not using the TARDIS to timeywimey the fuck out of the problem
>bill feeling betrayed after being the girl who waited 2.0
>humans still alive in the suit rather than just getting butchered
>opening shot is (hopefully) end of xmas

fucking /kino/

Only real problem was that the master was spoiled
Thats the only reason we all knew he was in disguise, cause we were all waiting to see how he'd show up

If it was just not announced in advance, fuck it would've been perfect

>>84258468
This is such a fucking mess. RIP down to earth who that didnt look like live action tumblr sketch. This scene is low tech but nothing looks out of place.

https://youtu.be/bRBQZdBqoOU

>>84258511
>what the fuck is up with Bill's actual human body being intact and beneath the suit?
What would you expect? The tennant ones were a brain inside a robot, but these ones are clearly still mostly human

>>84258516
> though the stakes get higher and higher but in the end none of it means jack fucking shit
What about the entire Amy/Rory arc from S6-S7?

>rtd would just kill some orphans or whatever and the doctor would cry about it for two seasons,
You'd rather have another "muh rose" situation where Ten literally cried about Rose for half of his lifespan

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>>84258589

>>84258604
All of /who/ agrees that this series has been shit
Don't be so quick to judge faggot

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Anyone else love the way that Simm's voice changed as he said ''Of course, they are rather necessary... when you happen to be someone's former PRIME MINISTER''

>>84258468
I wish Capaldo would stop using the same 2 poses for everything. He's worse than Ten inch.

>>84258656
>>84258656
>>84258656

migrate

>>84258281
>>>84258179 (You)
>All of those particular episodes set out to do a particular thing, and succeed in doing it.
>TMA sets out to have the Doctor and Davros dialogue for 45 minutes
But ther's 30 minutes of UNIT and medieval Earth scenes before they even get to meet.
>Let's Kill Hitler was obviously always going to not be about killing Hitler, TWoRS was about showing all of time happening at once
Cool, but the problem isn't what those episodes are about, it's how it's done. And you can't deny that there's a pattern if I can find that kind of hodgepodge plotting in a lot of Moffat episodes.
>and Hell Bent, much to the chagrin of people who don't like her, was about Clara, and how dangerous her and the Doctor's relationship became, and how far he was willing to go to save her (too far.
Then why did it have Rassilon and Ohila and all that other stuff in it? Again, it's a problem of how the story is developed.
>Moffat is so good partly because he is so brave as to do away with convention, and to use the show's lore and the concept of time travel in such bold an innovative ways,
And that's interesting stuff. But Midnight defies convention without being a terribly structured story. So does Love and Monsters, for all its faults.
As I said, Moffat a lot some great ideas. He just lacks skill compared to some.

>>84258674
not /who/
NOBODY ENTER THAT THREAD

>>84258468
A FLYING MONDASIAN CYBERMAN!

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>>84256027

Old fag here who remembers the days of 2004 set pictures of flaming sofas

>>84258646
Don't kid yourself you insufferable faggot. Everyone was calling The Pilot GOAT and as the only one daring to shit on your beloved show you autists were throwing temper tantrums over the fact someone bothered to critically think about the show rather than mindlessly love it.

>>84258674
You forgot the title retard

>>84258468
HQ version where?

The next episode will be 42 straight minutes of John Simm and Michelle Gomez fucking, screencap this

>>84258627
>but these ones are clearly still mostly human
So what the fuck is the point of the suit you dumb faggot.

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>simm will probably never come back again

>>84256611
pls no

why didnt they do a merlin cross over episode

ACTUAL NEW THREAD (/who/ included)
>>84258814
>>84258814
>>84258814

>>84258511
>Every episode is amazing, amazing, amazing without question.

this is how i know you're a boardie with no understanding of how /who/ works

>>84258777
"We're dying. We must evolve to survive"
Suit keeps them alive.
Over time, they become more machine than man. Til Russell T Davies introduces the idea that they're a robot with a brain inside.

Genuinely, am I missing something? It makes sense to me lmao

>>84258621
>>master in disguise whole ep
>>master back out of nowhere with no explanation
you just described several classic who serials

>>84258846
The point is she is still a full human body inside a fucking suit. The suit is serving no function you autistic child.

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>>84258842
>mom, a man on the internet is making fun of doctor who again

>>84258530
why are the angels here?

>>84258942
She already had a massive chestpiece replacing much of her internal organs, and the handlebars are needed to inhibit emotion. Those are what we know - we don't know what else is involved in the conversion process

The OG cybermen had human eyes and noses poking through their cloth faces, and real human eyes.

>>84258777
did you watch classic who
the cybermen being visibly more human made them creepier

>>84258915
I know

Thats why I listed it as a kino point

It wasn't moffucked in

>>84256611
:(

>>84258436

It did seem to completely skip over the whole part where Arthur is King and Merlin is his trusted magician, where it always seemed like the whole point of the show was supposed to be that Camelot under Arthur's rule would come to believe in using magic after Uther had outlawed it.

>>84259002
Her entire face is still intact. Cant wait to watch you eat your own words when The Doctor reverses the conversion.

>>84259052
Her having her whole human face intact is too much.

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>>84259204
I'm not saying anything either way about the possibility of the conversion being reversed, I'm just saying that your complaints about the Cybermen being relatively humanoid (especially this early in their development) don't really hold much water

They've always had noses, human eyes and human hands. They used to have to open their mouths to speak. Even the Earthshock Cybermen had visible chins, just look at this (and it was an intentional design feature to show the chins)

>>84258755
Aren't you special. Back to tumblr.

>>84259312
Keep ignoring my comment about her whole face being intact, champ.

>>84259375
t. booty blasted autistic doctor who fan

>>84259387
What, exactly, in any previous Cyberman design not including the ones from a parallel universe, is at odds with the idea that the cybermen's faces are intact underneath their helmets? Especially at such an early stage in their evolution?

>>84259487
Such a pathetic little manchild. Sorry kiddo, but Moffat is indeed a hack.

>repair bill
damn

>>84257978

This

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I really want it to be Marshall just so GB will be fucking rekt