Expanse thread #2

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ProtoGen's CEO be all like pic related.

Adam Savage nerds out on costumes, props and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fJoWSOYn6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXwe51lkJ6M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8vR2FB1PGM

s02e03 sneak peek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwgrsXeZxMM

Does anyone happen to have a download link or hd stream?
I don't wanna wait till june until it shows up on netflix in my country.

>>79059108
hownew.ru

>>79059138
Not helping

>>79059108

Why do helpless scum like you exist

>>79059108
Check out this Earther

Well, where should I look then? Google only gives me sd streams and shitty scam sites for downloads.

>>79059276
found a decent stream

https://solarmovie.sc/movie/the-expanse-season-2-18663/578273-8/watching.html#player-area

>>79059321
Thanks, that's actually what I found as well just now

I'm 7 episodes into this show, it's interesting but jesus it's depressing as hell. Space nightmare.

>>79059138
>hownew.ru
Honestly, for a second, I thought that was a link to a Russian version of couchtuner or something.
kek

>>79059755
>I'm 7 episodes into this show, it's interesting but jesus it's depressing as hell. Space nightmare.
It's...not a utopian future. I'll give you that.

It's real politik mixed with cutthroat capitalism. Not a million miles from the East India Company in space.

>>79059755
>it's depressing as hell
I swear part of it is that everyone always seems to be on edge

>>79060095
>everyone always seems to be on edge
In the books they literally take R&R because they're too worked up and it's been too long between shore leaves.

Also, they spend weeks in transit between every site so they're usually bored and at least somewhat looking forward to action (Alex and Amos anyway, for different reasons).

TV likes people to be on edge though, it creates drama and gets viewers interested. Unless it's over done and you just end up hating all the characters because they take themselves too seriously...24 syndrome.

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fuck this guy

What happened? Is what I wonder. It's as if it got a new set of writers that try to adapt characters.

The martian squad and especially their leader was extremely cringe-worthy.

Amos IMMEDIATELY went from a bit weird in the head and no-nonsense to literally having to be distracted from senselessly strangling a man.

The conscientious, soul-saving Butcher jettisoned a man for no reason.

>>79061064

"Decrypt this."

>>79061100

You're a fucking idiot that pays attention to nothing being said in the show and I wish you'd go talk about Riverdale or some shit rather than have people spoonfeed you basic knowledge.

>>79061064
This fag has some serious oneitis

>>79061156
>Butcherman you're full of shit, we shouldn't do your bidding, you don't just tell us--
>JETTISON
>Alright the rest of you, THIS is why you should listen to me: ........."
>YOU'RE AFUCKING RETARDL OVEMY SHOW LOVE IT

CANT THEY RELEASE IT ALL AT ONCE REE

>>79061219

>guy just admits to being a scumbag terrorist with no long term plan just lol kill em all
>yeah let's keep him around so he can bring more heat on this station

Riverdale. Stick to it.

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out
fuckin
skild

Shit. I have to watch this tonight. Not reading this thread lalalalalalala

Best space related tv/film project since uhh
hmm
Legend of the Galactic Heroes tbhqhyw (but this is undisputed GOAT so its no harm in losing to it)

I'm really looking forward to the new terra stuff.
Fucking planet exploding is gonna be great to see

>>79061271
No. Staggered release keeps people interested and talking about it for longer, than if you can watch it all at once.

Why do you redditards have to force a general for this garbage? Fuck off

>>79061450
This is great tho m8

>>79061450
Your face is garbage

>>79061467
it's really not though, it's awful shit that no one would care about if it aired 10 years ago when BSG was running

>>79061100
not to mention the cringeworthy forced minorities on the show

>>79058862
>>79061486
BSG is shit, mate

>>79058862
>>79058862
>>79058862
>>79058862

>>79061486
Your opinion is just wrong mate.

>>79061567
Incase you haven't noticed, there's more posts and people here than in that thread.

>>79061567
>BSG is shit
>The Expanse is good

nu-/tv/, everyone

>>79061623
BSG went to fucking irredeemable garbage after season2 and in retrospect all future episodes ruined early BSG

>>79061572
>>79061567
kek at these delusional faggots, reminder that this piece of shit is aimed squarely at YAs and attracts the same fanbase as buffy the vampire slayer and CW. Fuck off

>>79061643
Then why are you on its thread?

>>79061064
Are you kidding hes an absolute madman.

> that scene where he convinced earther and belter mercs to slaughter eachother

>>79061643
So you're saying you're too old to enjoy new things, I get it.

>>79061636
>BSG went to fucking irredeemable garbage after season2

It didn't though did it. The escape from the algae planet was probably one of the greatest sequences in the history of TV sci-fi

>>79061665
to laugh at you greasy faced effeminate fags who actually think this is a good show

>>79061643
>implying BSG wasn't aimed for YA audience
>faggot says I'm delusional

>>79061826
careful not spill your dew of the mountain with your fits of blowing air out your nose

>>79061847
>implying BSG wasn't aimed for YA audience

No, it wasn't, you fucking retard

>>79061777
season 2 already was garbage. but you were 10 or a women didn't (want to) realize.

>marysue bitch best pilot/sniper/mechanic/gambler/fucker + she's the new jesus
>retarded almighty leaders acting like the population wasn't near extinction, still not reallocating manpower, letting civilians do fucking nothing for survival.
oh fuck that shit is RETARDED and all you retards are still praising it after years

>>79061939
This anon got it right.

God bless season 1 though, it's really good, especially the pilot ep.

>>79061930
lol... yea.. with all the who loves who shit...
go kill yourself please

>>79061939
>letting civilians do fucking nothing for survival.

What are you talking about, they literally had nothing to do you moron

>marysue bitch best pilot/sniper/mechanic/gambler/fucker + she's the new jesus

Starbuck was not a mary sue lmfao. but hey, I'm not the one who likes a show that makes every second character black or a woman

>>79061826
shit nigga it sounds like you need a hug

>>79061979
>makes every second character black or a woman
It's the future, why is that so unrealistic?

>>79061979
>muh skin colors is important for my films and tv because i use them the project my policies on
just end yourself stupid fucking shitstain

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You're a big girl.

>>79062256
>YWN have a martian marine gf drink your ocean dry
Feels bad mang.

>>79062038
That's the future YOU choose, libcuck

this show is /co/mblr tier, glad to see its ratings are doing poorly

here's hoping it gets cancelled and syfy make that 3001 adaptation they were promising us

Imagine disliking BSG but being a fan of this pile of garbage

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXwe51lkJ6M

MEI CONFIRMED
GANYMEDE CONFIRMED

HYPE
Y
P
E

>>79062496
imagine being a fan of Battlestar Galactica post season1 and trying to pass judgement

>>79059177
lel, fucking squat thinks he deserves links.

>>79060164
I read the books and was pumped for this show. I couldn't get over Naomi's characterization and forced Mars interrogation Drama. Does it get better?

>>79062647
>imagine being a fan of Battlestar Galactica

BSG was probably the greatest sci-fi show since TNG up to season 3.5. If they ended it with the decaying, nuclear war ridden Earth at the mid-season 3 break it would certainly have gone down as one of the true greats of any genre

>>79062875
>>79059177

>>>/co/bmlr

children belong in their containment board

>>79061979
>they literally had nothing to do
thats the problem you moron, if a race is near eytrinction, their asshat leader should've send them to do/learn useful jobs and not just fuck around and playing SJWs on their 10 news channel.


but let you brainded just adore your incompetent Adama

>a show that makes every second character black or a woman
guess what, i don't like that either, but if you look around the world or at least in usa media, that's the realistic future.

Also BullShitGayactica had a lot more POC and strong women cast. Were you too young to remember?

>>79061319
The books are better. The show is shit. You know that UN bitch? They watered her down. This is her book dialogue.

"They’re all fucking men,” she said. “Excuse me?” Soren said. “The generals. They’re all fucking men.” “I thought Souther was the only—” “I don’t mean that they all fuck men. I mean they’re all men, the fuckers. How long has it been since a woman was in charge of the armed forces? Not since I came here. So instead, we wind up with another example of what happens to policy when there’s too much testosterone in the room.”

>>79061486
The books are way better.

>>79061501
In the books it's more about squats vs. skinnies. Race barely matters when everything's about which rock you're from. Or rather, race becomes something more related to physiology and birth than ethnicity.

>>79059355
>The power armour is bullshit though, complete anime sci-fi shit, anything worn by a person (size small enough to wear indoors) is still going to get drilled by 50cal+ ordinance
This is partially addressed the one time the power armor and 50 cal ordinance are in the same fight together

>>79061623
I read the books and I agree. So much cringe from episode one on. Naomi was a cool character in the book. Also, in the book the Belters all had serious bone deformation making them freakish tall and skinny. This is the main source of tension later on in the series, the belters can't go down the well. Fucking hack syfy garbage.

>>79061064
I see where he is coming from though. I was a little on the fence but leaning towards letting him live.

I mean, he genocided 100,000 people who he had never met just so he could get some results in a short time span.

>>79061339
I hope we get more of this.

Also I love the restrictions space combat puts on the characters themselves. The characters moving about the ship modifying the phase converter or whatever draws the audience in but that has to be balanced out by the fact that if the ship is doing exciting maneuvers the crew has to be secured.

>>79061643
Which is funny because the books would bore the YA crowd to tears. The Belters are never sympathetic in the books, neither are the squats. If anything the book series is about how wars in space suck for humanity. Fuck syfy, at least HBO would have had the budget for accurate Belter physiology. ie. 8-9ft tall bone loss monstrosities.

>>79062256
I bet she doesn't even lift.

>>79062967
There are no download links, kid. This isn't Steven Universe with the mega linked to in the general. If you want to watch it then either get DirecTV or some shit, or find a torrent yourself.

Also lurk more before you struggle to use memes again.

>>79062256
Oh fuck did they mess up Bobbie too?

>>79062430
HBO would have done it better. I knew they were going off book as soon as that stupid fucking scene with the dirt in episode 1. Muh space madness!!!

I love the captains speech about how he grew up fearing Earth glassing Mars and how Mars gave up any hopes of terraforming for the next 50 years just to keep it from happening. Mars being a military power didn't make much sense to me in S1 but that line about there being a trade off made it feel more believable.

>>79063404
Considering how fucking terrible both Game of Thrones and Westworld are, I find it really funny how people still have faith in them

>>79062967
Pinche squat thinks he can use all the air he wants. Just wait for the rocks to fall.

>>79063484
Stay golden, Ponyboy.

>>79058872

The arm-wrestling scene was so fucking dumb. If you really want the stronk womyn why not put some fucking 6'2'' valkyrie in those roles? That chick in the scene had arms the size of noodles.

>>79063456
They have the cash, and Game of Thrones is shit because of George. Season 1-3 is super faithful. The Expanse is much better on paper. Hell, the authors even managed to make the female characters likable.

Bobbie, the martian mech warrior, is supposed to be built like a fucking tank. She's pretty much a genetic freak. Like, she isn't meant to be an everywoman. She's the exception to the rule. She's also allowed to be fucking terrified by protomolecule xeno horrors. I sear, the show is fucking trash in comparison.

>muh books
GoT all over again.

>>79063609
>why not put some fucking 6'2'' valkyrie in those roles
Because they don't exist or have negative acting skill.

>>79063609
She's supposed to be like 7 ft. tall and built like a muscular fridge in the books. Also, she's not supposed to be gung ho. She's supposed to be straight faced and frank to a fault. She doesn't like fighting, she has to fight to feel normal.

>>79063684
George is a hack. The only book in the series that tells a cohesive story is book one. Even that is bloated as shit. The only unnecessary book in The Expanse is Cibola Burn.

it might be hard to find a 7 feet tall, polynesian bodybuilder actress

they're pushing the mars hates earth angle a bit too hard but, its kind of forced. In the books its mostly just banter.


i hated book avasarala, especially her early chapters she comes across a bit too tryhard

>>79063696

I don't think so desu.


>>79063715

That makes more sense.

>>79063782
She's a bitch but as things get rough and she sticks to her guns she grows on you. I especially like her in the latest two books. James S. A. Corey are really nailing it with their characters. I was worried after Caliban's War that they had peaked but they're out of the valley now.

>>79063715
>She's supposed to be like 7 ft. tall and built like a muscular fridge in the books
I get the height thing but muscular? A Martian?

Also hhhnnnnng.

>>79063511
heh, the only pony I like is the Rocinante.

>>79064079
I was referencing a line from a book. The reference wasn't important though. I was just saying I appreciate your post.

>>79061501
its not forced, the book explains it more, but the belters originated from a bunch of third world countries and mixed together. It's why the speak like they do any why the average belter is brown.

>>79064078
She lifts.

Keep in mind that Mars is basically space Israel. They only have a population of about 50 million to Earth's 30 billion. They've only made it this far because all of their tech is so advanced and their soldiers are elite.

The Belters survive bone and muscle loss through a cocktail of steroids, advanced growth hormones, and surgeries. Think about what Mars, a much more wealthy and advanced faction, gives to their front line soldiers.

>>79064113
When is that said??? It's been awhile since I read the first books.

>>79064234
Yeah, it makes sense really. Who would risk bone loss and the dangers of space except the most desperate?

>>79064298
A book. Not THE books.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnZbKOc7EXA

>>79064504
Ha, I thought I was going crazy.

I think the main problem with show Bobbie is book Bobbie's character is almost all after the space PTSD while show Bobbie may not even be on Ganymede for the weapon test.

>>79064584
But... that's retarded. Then how do we get the payoff of her cheesy workout chant?

>>79063609

You know the actress is 6'1" right? And an amateur boxer.

Holden IS, WAS and WILL ALWAYS be a self righteous cunt
I love when he breaks his neck falling off his high horse

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Two Expanse threads at the same time.

>Nice

even though dawes wasn't in book 2 i hope we'll somehow see him again cos hes pretty great in the show

>>79066600
His whole "My Space Twitter Human Interest Stories Can Prevent Genocide" bullshit really pissed me off in the latest book.

No way in hell the remaining population of Earth wouldn't be out to kill every living belter after Spic Char went all Colony drop on them.

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>>79066803
I am sad we won't get Muss showing up. I liked her Egyptian/greek looks.

Was there ever a big space battle in the books? Also, do small fighters exist in this universe? Or only big ships?

>>79067548
Fighters are Star Wars tier kiddy shit

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>tfw read the books during the wait for season 2
>tfw what happens to my favorite character Miller.

>>79067719
>TFW Sam

>>79067719
What happens to the psychotic fuck whose only character trait is "kill them all to protect my waifu oneitis eternally"?

>>79067627
Why though?

>>79067759
Because humans are squishy

>>79067799
But a big ship doesn't make them less squishy.

>>79067799
>>79067548
What would be the benefit of a fighter? I can't think of anything.

>>79067759
a manned vessel can never outrun a missile, if they tried to match speed with it the crew would get mashed to death.

the best bet is larger ships with thicker hulls.

>>79067885
There literally is none, beyond the writer wanting to write about WW2 style carrier battles IN SPACE!

>>79067744
:'(

>>79067848
More PDCs means more missile defense. In the book close quarters combat is basically mutually assured destruction.

>>79067885
I'm very far from an expert, so I wouldn't know for sure. I'm just thinking that when one fighter gets taken out that's a minor decrease in firepower than when a bigger ship, with more weapons, gets taken out.

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>strong womyn arm wrestling a robot

the marine girl is cute though

>>79063372
Kinda hard to get a 7-foot tall stacked amazon to work in real life. At least one with any kind of acting chops.

>>79067959
How is that any better than a big ship fitted with missiles though?

>>79067908
>thicker hull
Or simply more anti ballistic missiles.

>>79067999
You get trips, but quote the wrong post, so sad

>>79067987
Well, I wouldn't know. I was just asking if there are any. If the books/series says fighters aren't feasible I'll just need to believe that, don't I?

>>79067885
Requires less fuel for maneuvers, is more agile, would be easier to hide, and if nothing else it could shepherd a bunch of long range projectiles and give last minute course corrections. A squadron of smaller craft could do a strafing run and be harder to hit that one single ship.

>>79067987
Humans > whatever targeting system they have on the missiles.

>>79068124
Agility means nothing, a missile will always be faster. The crew can only survive so many g's and a missile can accelerate forever.

The PDC's on the larger ships could literally send a wall of bullets at a squadron and wipe them all out in a single volley.

>>79068124
>Requires less fuel for maneuvers,
So do missiles
>is more agile,
So are missiles - more so than anything with a human onboard
>would be easier to hide,
So are missiles
>and if nothing else it could shepherd a bunch of long range projectiles and give last minute course corrections.
So is a missile bus
>A squadron of smaller craft could do a strafing run and be harder to hit that one single ship.
And missiles are cheaper, and more plentiful

>>79068161
>Humans > whatever targeting system they have on the missiles.
Which is why no one uses missiles, and has a human in charge of targeting the Point Defence Weapons - oh wait, that's totally wrong, much like your post

>>79061339
>>79063315
Amos is lucky he didn't get turned into a thick coat of paint.

>>79068161
there's no jedi in this show, retard

>>79063715
>Also, she's not supposed to be gung ho. She's supposed to be straight faced and frank to a fault.

Probably they're catering to the TV audience there. She's playing a marine and as far the general audience knows marines spend all day running around going hoo-rah and yelling a lot.

She might get more like the books once Avasarala gets Bobby on her little team.

>>79068246
He's a big guy.

Are you telling me Earthers get free drugs?

>>79067805
The MCRN were looking so smug up until the stealthships started using their railguns...

Donnager still took out four of them though. Lucky they had enough boarding troops left after that.

Mars is literally the only non-shit faction in this show.

>>79068555
Aliens

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>>79068545

>>79067548
>Was there ever a big space battle in the books?
Yes.

>>79067548
>Also, do small fighters exist in this universe?
Not really

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>>79068555
>implying MCR isn't irredeemably evil for violating the NAP
Mars is rightful multinational corporation regolith.

Thomas Jane is such an underrated actor. With all of the absolute shit he's been in lately just for a paycheck, he really gives his role as Miller his all. Needs to be in more films desu.

He was the best Punisher.

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>>79068883
Zero fucks given

Okay I'm up to the end of season 1. This is the least fun I've ever had in space. This series is fucking bleak man, hyper-depressing shit. Does it just keep getting worse every week?

>>79068984
Worse as in shit? Or worse as in character turmoil and despair? I love the despair. All goes to hell and the books have no happy endings.

>>79069020
He means it is not an upbeat show about happy endings and shit.

>>79069020
>have no happy endings.
They don't have bad endings either though.
They just go on.

>>79069020
The scary part is there are what, 8 books with more planned? Brutal. It's a well-made show, just dark, the future sucks man.

>>79068236
So basically missiles are vastly superior to any ship and the idea of spaceships is completely pointless when you can have fleets of rowing missiles patrolling the system.

>>79068984
Space is colonized. That isn't dpressing in the slightest.

Also I take it you fucking hated the opening of BSG then what with the nuclear holocaust.

What's wrong with fighter drones thought?

>>79069143
You're right, I loved BSG but it wasn't near this dark, people dying from bio-weapons and murdering everyone and suffocating to death. I did like the battle where the stealth ships destroyed the capital ship, that was pretty badass. I always liked the BSG space battles for thee same reason, it's more like naval combat.

>>79069232
Cost vs. simpler missiles

>>79069232
Signal scrambling

>>79068984
Earth seems pretty well off and Mars hopeful

>>79069291
Fuck off with your missiles.

>>79069322
>>>/r/starwars

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>>79067757

Why don't they phone this stuff in with drones. It looks like they're pulling lots of Gs and it's uncomfortable and dangerous.

>>79069392
Because people don't like ready stories about Droney McDroneface unless they're Bolo stories

>>79069272
BSG started out with literally billions of people dying. How small minded do you have to be to not register that is immensely depressing?

>>79063089
>This is her book dialogue
Should I be disapointed that it's not in the tv serie? Because it's cringy as fuck

>>79069392
It would make the show a hell of a lot less interesting so I think we assume they have a good reason that just isn't explained.

>>79069322
fuck off with ur ww2 in space fagget this isn't sci-fi fantasy

>>79069392
there are unmanned ships in the books. It would be boring af to make a show based on them though

>>79069392
Because they like to pretend ship to ship battles are feasible.

>>79069464
>this isn't sci-fi fantasy
Then why does it have space battles when the whole idea is completely ridiculous?

>>79069136
You need humans in ships due to the delay in communications.

>>79069552
Dude you're going to come here and say you don't like this space show because battles in space are unrealistic? I think you should look for another kind of show if you believe that. You must hate most sci fi.

>>79069629
For more complex stuff sure but you could have kill zones where the drones attack anything with the wrong IFF code

>>79069682
I am sure they DO have those things. But even earth to mars sometimes has a delay of over 20 minutes for two way communication. I am sure you have some AIs but a lot of people do not want to give nukes to AIs.

>>79069629
this, drones aren't capable of complex tactical decision making, they're a lot less advanced than the out of work programmers on 4chan like to pretend.

>>79068246
Are you retarded or autistic by any chance?

>>79069455
it does sound like something a disgruntled woman would say though lol

>>79069629
>>79069864
No one (except for the guy who wants fighters) is saying replace every ship with missiles, we're saying that there is no role a fighter can perform that a a missile can't perform better, or cheaper, or faster

>>79063089
TV show did better to tone her and the mad doctor down a notch.

>>79069920
You guys think about this shit way too much. Just enjoy the show because it's interesting and makes you think about how space combat might work even if they get some of it wrong.

>>79061979
>Starbuck was not a mary sue lmfao. but hey, I'm not the one who likes a show that makes every second character black or a woman
Why the fuck is every space Sci-Fi show just libtard bull shit?
If you had some fucking smart conservatives in space you could avoid 100% of the drama and story of all plots.
Every
Fucking
Space
Show

>>79069920
I could see some use of drones, but not really in a "fighter" role. Perhaps as a long range anti-shipping role of being a Kinetic kill device or a passive sensors that orbits a area and when the right ship comes by launches a missile.

But you are not going to see BSG style fighters.

>>79069966
what did they get wrong? it is extremely realistic

>>79061979
>she's the new jesus
No, she just celestial. Huge difference in the Mormonish BSG faith setup.

>>79070051
It is rather realistic, and it is consistent, which is more then most series are.

Stealth ships are not likely, but it no biggy.

>>79069678
People are saying small fighter planes in space would be "unrealistic", but ships engaging in broadside shootouts somehow are not, and if you complain about it you should "look for another show", but it's fine to complain about everything else. Where's the line here?

>>79070051
I'm not an aerospace engineer or something so I couldnn't tell you, but they seem to be really thinking about what real space combat would be like. I'm just saying, arguing about whether it is realistic is a waste of time, it's a show.

>>79070051
Honestly space combat would just become a shitfest of cyber-warfare trying to cracks each-others IFF codes

>>79070097
>but ships engaging in broadside shootouts
Why didn't you just say you've never watched the show, it would have saved a lot of time

>>79070127
>scenes are literally posted in this very thread
>hurr durr it dun happen in show

>>79070182
Not a single broadside engagement - here's your (you) though

>>79067757
>>79070218
Fucking point blank shootout. Fuck off.

>>79070327
NOT. A. BROADSIDE.

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>>79070367
Shhh, shhh, it's okay.

>>79070111

Sub combat, anon. First one to get spotted eats a rail gun slug.

>>79070420
>Secondary weapon systems only
>Not their main method of engagement
Thanks for proving my point

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>>79070182
>>79070327
If you watched the show (Or even the freaking episode) you would know that it was not the usual case.

The Belters wanted to attack the station, but simulations showed that their ships could not survive long or medium range encounters with the defensive ships.

So they dropped the main attack ship with its power off like it was a object that broke its tow, claiming it was salvage so both ships could get close enough . The Anubis class did fire missiles at the one ship but Point defense took it out.

Or in modern terms, they did what islamics did to the USS Cole, get close so the main weapon systems couldn't fire on them and did their damage.

>>79070473
Do I need to webm the entire fucking battle so this idiot unerstands?

>>79070522
i think these idiots have only seen the webm's and not the actual show

>>79070522
Why are you talking to yourself?

>>79070473
>ships flying shoulder to shoulder firing at each other point blank range
>durr not broadside because secondary weapon
Shhh, shhh, no more tears now.

>>79070451
Yeah and once you spot somebody you would need to identify if it's an enemy or an ally, and then the cyber warfare starts

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>>79070594
I am not talking to myself

pretty good so far, I haven't read the book yet but the movie continues it own plot line very well.
Only thing I hated was that weak as shit woman defeating the exoskelet in arm wrestling.
Would also be dumb if a man did it.

>>79070522
>>79070563
>>79070630
>Desperate samefagging

>>79070630
what does "Highly unusual terror attack" do you not understand.

>>79059108
2ddl full stop one

The Joke
>>79070652

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>>79070666

>>79070661
But anon, how else can we show that's she's stronk

>>79070647

IFF will not be necessary unless the same companies are supplying engines and heat dissipation systems to every military.

Heat signature alone will work.

>>79070719
boxing against someone as a kind of sparring or so?

>>79070724
Which is what they actually use in show well technically the output of the main drive, but until you start firing that's going to be the largest heat signature anyway

>>79070677
>claims it "never happens in the show, ever"
>Oh look it's right here in this scene
>"what part of "doesn't happen all that often" don't you understand

>>79070661
>>79070719
>>79070767
Should have changed it to a "how long can you arm wrestle the power armor" contest, and shown a leader board in the mess deck, builds up that they're competitive but have camaraderie, shows that the suits are badass and more powerful than a human, and establishes Draper as being pretty strong

Maybe the show and books don't have fighters because the people who made it didn't want them?

>>79070773

Fair enough. One nitpick, though.

> Largest head signature

If they're running silent (i.e. on inertia alone), then whatever cooling method they use to vent systems operations heat would probably be bigger.

They might try and keep the heat inside for a time, ala the Mass Effect's Normady, but eventually they're going to have to get it outside the hull.

>>79070846
perfect.

>>79070804
You have a much broader view of what a "Broadside attack" is to most. It doesn't even meet the definition of broadside attack, but hey, I don't think you care about that.

>>79070846
no no its much smarter to break your friend's power armor as a sign of strength

I thought I was the only one watching this shit, but look, a fucking thread. Would have never guessed, considering nobody cared about the first season.

Anyway, how do you guys combat with the fact that you've forgotten half the shit from season one? I don't really want to rewatch it.

>>79070908
With Epstein drives, engines are on the majority of the time to reduce trip time (which reduces logistics requirements etc.) There's also issue that with warships, it's highly likely they would be tracked from burn to burn so those going dark would be pointless since it just means you're wasting time.

>>79070955
>Anyway, how do you guys combat with the fact that you've forgotten half the shit from season one? I don't really want to rewatch it.

So far nothing really matters, you just need to remember what happened on Eros and that's it.

>>79069429
the culture novels are great

>>79070908
>>79070999
If I remember rightly (been a while since I read Leviathan Wakes) that was part of how the stealth ships needed to operate, they ran with engine off for a lot of the time - especially in the lead up to killing the Canterbury, and used a combination of LADAR absorbing material and cryogenic systems to deal with everything else - they still don't work perfectly though

>>79070955
I just finished the first season today and I already feel somewhat lost, I agree, no way I'm watching this again. It's not good enough for two watches.

Also, I think they might make a lot of seasons of this since there are so many books. I don't know that I will want to keep up with this for five more years.

>>79071022
I can't remember where that scene with blue shit in some reactor core or whatever happened. I'm not even sure it's from this series.

>>79071079
with only 700k viewers for first episode?

>>79071138
That's from the very very start of the first episode.

>>79070999

If the fuel has already fallen behind life support systems as the limiting factor for deployment, the lack of automated ships in-universe stands out even more.

>>79071079
It has its moments, like that bit where that martian guy pops some pills and interrogates the MC and the bunch. I didn't really get it, but it looked cool.

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>>79071079
Unless the ratings improve there will not be a 3rd season, unless netflix overseas rights is very lucrative.

>>79071138
>>79071168

>>79070927
Well it's either "firing all guns on one side of the ship", which is happening in the scene, or "firing all guns capable of aiming at a specific target", which is happening in the scene. But I'm sure you have your own.

>>79071218
For Earth crewed ships make sense for one major reason - they have 30 billion people to provide jobs for, I'm surprised they don't make the deck plating out of people

>>79071218
??

If anything, cheaper drive/fuel costs will make it more likely it will be manned.

>>79071218
Eh, its the way it is because having a story about drones doing automated ice harvesting and then getting blown up when the freighter responds automatically to a distress signal leads nowhere because who gives a fuck about some drones?

>>79071248

Were the pills useful at all, or just a psych-out?

>>79071296

I have a half-ass theory that over a long enough time span, all fiction lines converge to Warhammer 40k

>>79071286
>firing all guns on one side of the ship"
But they where not. They where firing there CIWS at each other, that it. The whole point was the avoid the rail guns that the ship was to have as the "hero" ship just has missiles and CIWS. Its like saying a patrol boat flying by to get behind cover firing its AA guns is doing a broadside.

it a silly comment.

>>79071342
the pills are supposed to improve focus or something IIRC

>>79071286
The standard tactic in the setting is torpedos + evasive maneuvers, like a sub battle. Since the hero ship was outgunned, they pretended to be space junk in order to get in close and use the station as cover.

>>79071342
My interpretation is that the pills heightened his observational skills so he could tell if people were lying and use their body laguage against them.

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>>79071342
The drugs were a nice reverse of the usual "truth drugs".

It was so the intel officer could tell they were lying or not.

>>79071299

If reactor fuel is cheaper than oxygen, why waste all that space and mass on life support when you could just store more fuel and extend your time between deployments?

Fuck man, you don't even need an airtight hull any longer. It could just be a frame. Imagine how much cheaper it gets to accelerate then.

(This assumes the on-board AI can do all the necessary requirements as well as a human crew.

>>79071342
>>79071399
>>79071415
I figured the pills were a combination of perception enhancers and something to make you not feel any emotions about what was being said to you, so you don't lose your cool when interrogating some belter scum

>>79071441
Right like a amphetamine that makes you super-confident and alert, with a little bit of that hyper-observation you get from LSD. I totally believe this drug could exist, it was well-done.

>>79071416
biggest issue is command and control. You need a human near to give guidence as you can't home base stuff as it takes too long to communicate.

Also, with 30 billion people, many of them not working, it just simpler to hire people to do semi-skilled labor then hiring expert people to do command control of drones with huge delays.

Military wise, you also get to the issue that you do not want robots with deadly weapons. Heck, even a mining robot could screw up earth by flinging a nice size rock at earth.

>>79071416
easy pickins for savvy pirate belter types

>>79071625
>We saved a ton of money by making our new mining ship into a drone!
One month later

>Well, seems some belters went on board and hacked it, took all our ore and its being scrapped at Ceres....

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>product placement during crucial battle scene
oh jayzus

Another thing I can't remember is who the hell that smug guy on the privy council is, the one that was pushing to send a ship to Phoebe. Are we supposed to know from season one that he was working for the elusive chinaman all along or was it a shocking revelation only unveiled in this episode?

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>>79071685
It was a inside joke.

FedEx CEO and his daughter have worked a lot with the production company on other projects.

>>79071685
I agree, UPS breaching pods are much better. They skimped out with Fedex and one got scrapped by a space rock canon.

>>79071685
>Fed Ex, our shit will be used by terrorists in brutal attacks on research firms

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kino

>>79071625
>>79071655

I think you're vastly underestimating how intelligent even limited AI will be 200 years in the future, along with how intelligent long haul pilots might be.

>>79071729
Guy played by Shawn Doyle. He was revealed to be a stooge last season.

>>79058872
is this another show where the minorities are the good guys and its the ebil whyt "men" who are the fascist bad guys?

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>>79070666
retard

>>79071899
No /pol/ half of the crew of the main ship is white, and the big bad is an asian dude

>>79071899
Nah, in this one everyone is from the minorities. The lead is a fucking gyppo. Half of the fascists are niggers. The evil mastermind is asian.

>>79071899
No, the poo in loo lady is a cunt, as is the chink science man

>try to watch some scifi and chill
>stupid /pol/ thread breaks out
shit's gettin old

>>79071986
>complaining about 4 comments

>>79071763
Who's that woman anyways? Drummer?

>>79072061
And they were so fascinating.

>>79072061
Happens every time though.

>>79071899
Naa, The evil man is a asian, three of the heros are white males, just that it kinda post-racial as the Earther/Mars/Belt is more of the line then skin tone.

>>79072200
Maybe people are tired of certain tropes.

>>79071729
>Are we supposed to know from season one that he was working for the elusive chinaman all along
Yes. Watch the damn show again dude. Shit just watch the last couple of season 1.

>>79071729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH-sAVRZ29k

>>79073229
Ah, thank you, anon.

>>79063089
Avasarala is my waifu. I don't care if she's old.

I like science fiction. How schlocky is this show compared to other syfy movies?

>>79073979
Gonna need some time in the drydock after that scuffle, but no one can say Mars doesn't build 'em tough.

>>79068545
Technically, Donnager took out all of them. The self-destruct killed the two that were docked with it, and those were the two that survived the approach. A Pyrrhic victory, but still a victory.

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>>79070856
It's because humanity didn't encounter the Dilgar and beat their asses to score sweet fighter tech in The Expanse's timeline.

>>79074210
It's science fiction.

Best bit of sci-fi on TV right now. Based show.

>>79069429
>>79069463
>>79069483
>>79069511
Drone aren't used because of timelag over vast distances.

>>79058872
is this like mass effect

>>79076578
Only in the sense that you could see it as kind of a jumping-off staging point for what would later be Mass Effect.

>>79076958
are there any asari

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>>79077016
No.

>>79077084
darn

Saw the all the new episodes today. What the fuck? What was that ending?

Season 2 is a big leap from the first season. Episode 2 was great.

>>79066722
Of all the special effects on this show, those bullet spark trails are probably my favourite so far. Just so aesthetically pleasing. And the way they just drop when alex goes to burn

>>79067548
>Are there ever big space battles.
Yes.
>Do small fighters exist.
Small one man ships exist, but there is no such thing as an Expanse "Starfighter". They wouldn't be able to maneuver any more violently than a large ship (in the books the Roci is said to be able to kill her own crew with acceleration straight off the bat with zero modification). All a "Starfighter" would be is a ship that can't move with any more quickly than a much larger vessel, but is also incapable of carrying heavy weapons like railguns or torpedoes.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12264496
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>>79078865
Show? Miller.
Books? Bobbie.

I'm looking at this series on netflix right now.

Is it any good?
Is it worth it to spend some of the precious time of my existence to watch it?

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>>79080337
Ask God what you need to do, and react accordingly.

Yes, you absolutely should.
t. God

>>79080337
it's good yeah

>>79080337
yes

>>79080542
>>79080545
>>79080624
Thanks senpaitachi.
You should probably have been rude and called me a newfag though.

>>79080675
Fuck off and watch it already you raging homosexual.

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>>79080675
We're patricians here, anon. Calling people 'newfag' is for bestial threads for plebs and proles.

>>79080735
Now i'm convinced.

>>79080775

Joey?

GAS THE BELT
SPACE WAR NOW

Does the Season 1 Blu-Ray have many decent special features? I might pick it up if it does.

osmeone post that pic with selena taylor & whats her face with the three factions labeled

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>>79069136
Missiles have a limited ranged. Pack too much fuel on them and they can't accelerate/manoeuvre fast enough to trouble the point defence on the target. Which negates their advantages. Someone was asking if there's fighter craft here and this is the reason why - the missiles take their place. We're pretty much in the pilotless era of air combat now and this is just an extension of that.

This is space combat pretty much as it would be: depicted as a cross between surface and submarine combat. It's all about avoiding being seen; passive vs active sensors; throw weight on your missile systems; getting in range to use the bigbadaboom (railguns in this case); point defence weapons dealing with the enemy incoming; etc.

Try the David Weber Honor Harrington [pic related] books if you'd like to read large scale versions of this - his is one version of how space battles would go - they even have to stick to broadsides because of the way their drive system works (impeller wedge at one end, drive exhaust at the other). Early books only though - later on it becomes Honor Harrington And Her Pearly White Aura as she enters Space Goddess Mary Sue territory.

>>79080750
Didn't that dude strangle his girlfriend to death in BSG?

>>79071254
Julie Meow shouldn't have played with the blue string.

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>>79083669
Should add the smallest combat ship we've seen yet is this Martian vessel. The one that the belter guy hurled his rock collection at in s1.

It's probably the smallest frame you can slap a full size, fully fueled Epstein drive on and still have room for two crew, sensors and weapon systems (2 PDCs + 2 missile tubes). The Rocinante is a Martian missile frigate: 4 tubes (with a bigger magazine) and 6 PDCs.

So I'm caught up with this fucking space nightmare show and it's pretty cool but I don't think I want to watch it every week. I'm going to wait until the season's done and marathon it.
Good points:
- Interesting space battles
- good attempt at realistic space travel and life
- Thomas Jane
- Martians
- complex plot that keeps me interested
Bad points:
- Some shitty casting
- Some shitty dialogue
- Earth political intrigue stuff is rather boring
- Insanely depressing. Everything goes from bad to worse to even fucking worse and no one has any fun, ever.
Just my thoughts on this show, enjoy guys peace

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>>79084294
>and no one has any fun, ever.
Holden had fun waaaayyyy back in s01e01.

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>>79069979
this fuckin' guy

>>79070111
they have that in the books, to a certain extent. They don't sho it in the show because showing a bleepity bloopity display or a cringeworthy "hacker" sequence isn't good for TV

>>79070846
it's pretty shit DESU. In the books the power armor is basically star marine armor, not some pissweak combat suit.

Post limit hit again.

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