Expanse thread #3

>tfw no mars gf
;_;

>>79084660
The new season started!?!?!?!

>>79084708
Yup. Double espisode aired 2 nights back.

I'll leave it to the Julie poster to link the season 1 recat.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/12264496
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12264496

>all these miller votes

>>79084680
>Martian girlfriend has one of those little pills and asks you what you were doing in the other room for so long

>>79084744
noice

who /readingthebooks/ here? Currently reading Babylon's ashes, I'm way ahead on the plot but it's still fun to watch the show

>>79084660
I want this so bad. I want to live in The Expanse universe.

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>>79084783
s-studying

>>79084766
Because Thomas Jane does his job really damn well.

>>79084766
Voted for Alex. Cas Anwar's doing well with the Texan accent. Any slips can be put down to the changes brought about by growing up in a lighter gravity/artifical environment... yeah,

SDCC 2016 full coverage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLOzh1gL4xM&index=21&list=PLX5Az9LAnbkQi0VdhnovkgBPFFpVdSUJZ

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Immediatly started thinking about No Country for Old Men Aqua posters in this scene

>>79084766
Thomas Jane is awesome and I wouldn't watch this space opera shit if he wasn't in it
Just sayin'

>>79085060
He dies

>>79085243
He's still around for a while even after he dies tho

Is this show worth watching? I could really go for a good scifi show.

>>79085409
Yes. First two episodes are a bit weirdly paced but it gets better after that.

>>79084967
Is that what that accent is supposed to be? He slips in and out of it all the time. Pretty jarring.

>>79085243
YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH

>>79085409
okay here's the deal: good show, very dark. Everything pretty much sucks for everyone.

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Remember, remember the ... Cant.

>>79084660
>read the wiki
>their stolen corvette ship turns out to be some kind of super ship

dropped

>>79085537
>here's the deal
not
>here's the quick rundown

you gotta stay up to date on your memes anon

I'm disappointed in you

>>79084967
Why is Tom Jane always barefoot?

>>79084660

>that self propelled wrench
>IT'S HARD SCI-FI™ GUYS

Why do I ever listen to anything said on this board

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>>79085590
is this a good meme anon?

>hottest female on the show is a gilf
I've never experienced this before.

>>79085565
wat

the roci gets beat to within an inch its life several times

>>79085695
what is wrong with her voice did she survive cancer or something

>>79085543
Remembah da Caunt

>>79085732
She probably smoked a lot, and for some reason my dick appreciates it.

>>79085565
It's not a "super ship", it's just exceedingly efficient Martian tech. It's already a given that Mars builds better ships than Earth, Earth just has a bigger fleet.

>>79085243
Only physically

>>79085843
Alex slaloms the Roci around the Anubis ship with 5 of his 6 PDCs blazing away vs their single working one. Turns them into swiss cheese.

>>79084803
I just started Babylon's Ashes the other day. Love the series so far. Haven't watched the show at all yet though. Is it worth it? Or should I just stick to the books?

>>79084803
Just started Cibola Burn, I'm liking that things are just different enough from the book to keep you guessing a bit

>>79086036
Shows good, things are different enough that its still interesting.

>>79085732
>Not loving that voice
Faggot

>>79086065
Is Bobbi in the new season?

Where in the books are they in the show?

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>>79086036
Changes have been made of course to fit it better into the new medium. The plot's being changed a bit to have things happen faster. The good news is it's Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck writing the show as well.

>>79086107
Bobbie is in the 2nd season. The first season ended with Eros, but they've moved things and characters around the timeline a bit (Avrasarala for instance shows up right away in the first season).

>>79086136
Sweet. I'll totally check it out then. If this show gets up to Nemesis Games people are going to freak.

>>79086166
Depends if it survives the 3rd and 4th book.

>>79086190
It's probably the first successful show in a long time for scifi. If they actually quit fucking around with the region coding and put it up for streaming it could do pretty well.

But yeah. I'm guessing it will have a solid 3 season.

In space, no one is a NEET.

>>79086531
That's because they're all on Earth.

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>>79086549
Billions of them.

>>79086549
The internet also sucks in space.

Are there Earth population restrictions in The Expanse?

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>>79086586
At least you can get a neat helmet.

https://youtu.be/D2F4eHTIdhc?t=467

>>79084766
who's Alex? the only woman left on the ship? SECOND FAVOURITE????

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It was all going so well until they tried conversation.

>>79087332
>Not liking the cheese story
Faggot

>>79084766
>Miller isn't his favourite character
Wew pleb

>>79087449
murderautist is /ourguy/

>>79085243
You fucking die you shit

Why did I come into this fucking thread

End yourself

>>79087467
What did you expect there to be in spoiler tags?

>>79084766
>bitches getting wrecked

No love for hoes on /tv/.

Holy shit, ALEX is scoring second?? Martian Texan pilot getting it done!

>>79085491
He seemed a bit better the first two episodes of season 2, but he was all over the place in season 1.

Also, I hope the end of episode 2 isn't a sign that characters are going to start doing random, retarded stuff for "muh reasons", just as an excuse to create some more drama.

How can I get a strong, Martian woman to dominate me?

>>79088056
Read her terraforming poetry.

>>79085491
To be fair, it's a martian-texan accent so it's not like it needs to be 1:1 realistic

>>79086621
>Turns of their helmets
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>79088183

>>79088198
>GIVE US BACK OUR PORN

>>79085732
I think her voice fits a woman in a position of power, surrounded by men really well
and I like her accent

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>>79084766
How is this in any way surprising?

>>79087332
Fuck off, that was great.

what is the fucking deal with the mormons

>>79090979

Miller losing the hat was the best thing ever, and I really liked that he was actually bitter about his friend being killed despite being told that he was going to leave them behind and actually supported it.

his character made me turn around on Thomas Jane as a whole.

>>79091158

They're the only ones with a good plan i.e getting the fuck out of dodge.

>>79087831
Miller is completely justified in shooting the scientist.

He's the only one that can continue the project, if he dies the whole protomolecule human experiment shit ends at Eros. Miller knows the scientist will find a way to bribe Fred or whoever and carry on, Miller also knows he doesn't care about killing belters.

Miller did a good thing, it's just you can't really do a character internally thinking on a tv show well. Miller finished this protomolecule shit or did he?

>>79091529
>Miller is completely justified in shooting the scientist.
kek, no. Miller had terrible one-it-is and shot the only person who knew anything about the virus.

Even America took home Nazi scientists after WW2 and their work..

>>79091529
>if he dies the whole protomolecule human experiment shit ends at Eros

Exactly, and we'll continue not knowing anything about how to fight it until it successfully contaminates entire planets and everyone in the system turns blue

>>79091568
>Scientist argues that this was a weapon intended for take over Earth
>Why are you mad we want to see what it does to people?

Pandemics are bad.

>>79091584
Yes they're bad and that's why killing the most knowledgeable person with regards to the virus was silly emo thing to do

>>79091568
Miller stopped a man that believed genocide is justified for a chance to understand the protomolecule. They have no results, they've learnt nothing even after Eros. They'll just keep killing to try.

>>79091580
Quarantine the station, earth or mars can do it easily.

>>79091597
>Virus
It's an alien bioweapon, there's no cure

>>79091631
Weak defense for 50 year old emo-oneitis.

>No book series about prax rebuilding his home moon with his daughterfu

>>79084766
miller and alex are the only likable ones
holden is a cringy white knight faggot
indian bitch is annoying as hell
amos is naruto tier character

>>79092165
>indian bitch is annoying as hell

No u

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>>79092165
>indian
is dis nigga serious

>>79092275

He's talking about deep cover black ops grand mama

>>79085543
cant remember

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This guy is seriously miscast and also has had no good lines. Almost all of his dialogue is exposition and they spent zero time trying to introduce his character in a way that would make him interesting.

>>79092294
She's Iranian.

>>79092330
last episode made him sound pretty interesting desu

Roci is so sexy, best girl.

>>79092370
This.

>>79092330

Fred Johnson is /ourguy/ get ye gone, black sky scum

>>79092408
He doesn't have any of the presence or charisma the character exuded in the book.

>>79092165
amos is based, i hope they work his backstory from the side novel into the show.

>>79092408
I like the actor, I blame the script & director.

>>79091631
>Quarantine the station, earth or mars can do it easily.

But it's coming from somewhere outside

>>79094085
The only known source of the protomolecule is Eros and the Sample the roci crew hid.

>>79094135
He's saying the initial part with Phoebe, the protomolecule came from "somewhere" extra-solar.

>>79094166
Yeah millions of years ago, if the aliens were going to shoot another bullet they would have.

>>79094230
What if it's an alien race that just eats the protomolecule and they launched thousands of those payloads to create an ever increasing food source based on it devouring any detected biomass? They'll just stop by and wonder why their food went bad.

>>79094135

It came from an extrasolar object. There's no way of knowing if there's more out there.

>>79094230

Maybe they did. Space is big. The solar system could be full of fragments of protomolecule just waiting to be found. There are over 150 million known asteroids in the solar system and that's only the ones over 100m diameter.

>>79094275
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>>79094337
The show isn't caught up to the books so I cannot reply to you show watchers

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>>79094275
>food source based on it devouring any detected biomass?

I agree with that.

>>79094612
>tfw Games Workshop is full of hacks who let literally anyone butcher their IP on a daily basis
>tfw nobody good will ever make a 40K/WHFB related media ever again

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>>79092330
Frankly, if he keeps doing stuff like this, he doesn't have to say a word and I'll like him.

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Jesus christ, this fucking bitch. Please tell me that no one actually likes her.
Also if someone could post assshots of Naomi that would be great

>>79095721
shes probably gonna be alot more likeable after some more screentime and getting space PTSD

>>79095721
She's cute desu

>>79092275
For some reason when I see a sideshave I want some girl to deepthroat me.

>>79095721
Get a load of this Earther.

>>79096275
WHO'S GONNA FEAST ON EARTH SKY AND DRINK THEIR RIVERS DRY?

>>79095384
HE DIDNT FLY SO GOOD

>>79095384
that was really weird that he fell like that

>>79096631
They are inside a spinning station, anon. Why do you think they are standing on the ground instead of floating around?

What's John Snow doing the future?

>>79088198
That was fucking funny.

>>79096388
MMC!

remember the cunt

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>>79095721
If i want her to hold me down and peg me does that mean i like her??

>>79097793
Nah, that just means you're a faggot.

>>79097793
It is the truest love, anon.

GAS THE BELTERS, SPACE WAR NOW!

>>79097793
you can hold hands and she can break your hand

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>>79098032
rude!
>>79098189
:3c
>>79098328
oh gosh~

I'm on episode 5.
Is this like 40K.

>>79098757
yep right down to the flying cathedrals.
Loved when it blew up the planet in ep 3.

>>79098757
No, it's basically just Cold War in space.

>>79098401
fuck off shitposter

aliens send something awesome but on the road it turns into shitty space fungus

>>79097575
WHO'S GOING TO STOMP THEIR MOUNTAINS INTO FINE MARTIAN DUST?

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>>79084660
>Mars has no polar ice
>and no engineered atmosphere

D R O P P E D
O
P
P
E
D

shittiest possible attempt to reference Total Recall.

>>79099901
There's not enough ice at its poles to bootstrap an atmosphere on Mars. IIRC the last viable plan anyone had was the one Kim Stanley Robinson used in his Red Mars books: bombard it with ice asteroids from the belt for a century or so.

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>>79100357
Can books be kino by themselves?

>>79100501
If they're that book, yes - hopefully that series they're doing for it will get off the ground someday

>>79100501
That book and none of the others, unless political masturbation counts as kino.

>>79100673
Sax seeding the entirety of Kasei Vallis with plants that are genetically engineered to produce additional oxygen and sap so when they burn they'll turn the entire valley into an ocean of fire, just to kill the people who tortured him in Green Mars is pretty kino. Especially how calm he is over it when it happens

>>79100787
Sax was the only good thing about Green and Blue

>>79100842
Nadia was fairly comfy, but Nadia was always fairly comfy. Fuck Jackie and Zo though.

>>79100877
Nadia was barely in them though, and what she did do was mired in the aforementioned political masturbation.

>>79100941
>Nadia was barely in them though
The revolution in Green was from her perspective, I agree with Blue being the weakest though, but personally it's because I don't care as much about the fourth generation colonists worldview as I do about what any member of the first one hundred thinks, even the ones I don't especially like.

Arkady was best character though.

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>>79099100
wow rude

Only problem I have so far...
Is the transparent screens.
It's just the stupidest shit.

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why do people call him wackjob or an animal
he seems to act very openly, logically, decisively

its funny that the insults come when people who are used to use force to get what they want, are confronted with him and lose

Like Miller the fucking joke... he tried to hurt him, he got hurt instead
but somehow its Amos's fault...

>>79101367
the problem I have is seeing pilot of the spaceship watching some 40" screen thats like a single front camera to navigate their ship.. like sure yeah, it wont be like that at all

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>>79100357
in TR they discover a bunch of subsurface ice too, and that also gets used. The premise is still ridiculous, but that's not the point.

I said it was a reference to give the show some credit for not completely fucking forgetting there's ice on mars.

>>79092330
Yeah but he's fucking Coach so he gets a free pass. FOOTBALL! YEAH!

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>>79100501
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>>79101047
>tfw surrounded by fellow Bogdanovists

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>>79101417
How would it be, then?

>>79101770
Next year on Olympus!

>>79101778
HELM TO ONE-O-EIGHT

>>79101829
HELM TO ONE-O-EIGHT

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>>79101778
the future will most likely hae virtual reality helmet
but for a tv it should be huge ass screen that gives the pilot at least 270° view including up and down

>>79101770
>tfw Mangala

>>79101770
>YWN secretly turn Phobos into a giant rocket just in case you need to de-orbit it during your revolution
Feels bad man

This show sucks btw

too bad tho, the first few episodes were pretty good

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>>79101920
we already have augmented reality helmets that let you see through your ship

>>79095721

>beats a robotic battlesuit at arm wrestling

>literally no muscle tone whatsoever

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Have any of you read pic related?

>>79102006
>hollow out Deimos and fill it with fuel
>NOT aim it at Earth, fling it into space instead
Wasted opportunity, say I.

Amos looks like a buff Ivar from vikings.

>>79102250
Unfortunately I have.

>>79102250
A collection of short stories in the RGB Mars setting, but mostly not related to or expanding on the plot of the trilogy or the characters. It's comfy.

>>79102250
Yes, it's mostly alternate universe stories e.g. one where Maya knew about Coyote back on the Ares, wish I'd just re-read my favourite parts of Red Mars instead.

>>79102255
Because that worked so well when they tried it with Nemesis

>>79102199
>>literally no muscle tone whatsoever
It's like you want her to look like a man. Faggot.

>>79102322
No I like her pleasing thickness, or as much as it has been implied under the full body clothing she's been wearing

I just don't like them pretending that it translates to strength

>>79102320
>Because that worked so well when they tried it with Nemesis
The secret is to not leave the entire crew plus years of supplies on it when you launch it.

>>79102430
That's life in a revolution though

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>>79102322
It's not like she's pretty anyway. If she's going to be ugly anyway then at least give her some muscules.

Is this show worth getting into?

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>>79102700
>It's not like she's pretty anyway
so how does being a faggot working out for ya

>>79102914
Looks like a boy

>>79102894
yes, it feels like it has more budget in production than any scifi series I ever seen

plus it has this world building thing going for it, its very seldom you encounter such thing.

>>79102986
neat, will look into it

I hope Trump doesn't try to defund NASA.

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>>79103006
dont be discourage by the first episode where one of the lead character seems like a gary stu
he will have his share of fuckups and uselessness

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>>79102914
>someone finds this attractive

>>79103096
You rarely see a character actually meant to be a self righteous fuck. Its actually kind of interesting.

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Why did Miller kill Dresden?

>>79103280
Because he didn't want him getting away with it.

>>79103345
But they could've used to him to expose the Earth perpetrators. Fuck him up to get your anger out sure, but why kill him

If Amos died the show and books would be better. Amos should've died, not shed.

>>79103280

He killed his waifu in a really gross way

Imagine you finally get to meet your waifu and it turns out she's dead and there's weird blue stuff growing out of all her orifices, you'd be p. mad

>>79103411
Miller isn't exactly great at making decisions.

>>79103411
Yeah man, that made no sense especially sense the guy said he'd tell them who funded him and set everything up on Eros, and Miller was going on and on about how he wanted the people responsible dead

>>79098757
Now I'm on episode 8.
Is this Event Horizon?

Wtf how had I not heard S2 had started

>>79103490
Now I'm on episode 9.
Why do people say this has no originality/identity of it's own?
The only thing this show has in common with any other popular sci-fi, is that's it's sci-fi.

>>79096631
It a rotating station. The spaced guy didn't change direction, the station did.

No worries, took me a moment to figure that out.

>>79104195

I think it's quite Alastair Reynoldsy, but that's a good thing

>>79103280
In the book he says it's because "he was gonna talk us in to it".

Yes the stuff he was saying made sense but Miller's stand is that it was all immoral basically, no matter what could be gained what they were doing was wrong.

>>79103425
Amos is fine in the book, they make him edgier on the show I think.

>>79104307
Was talking about shows and movies.
Read a review that the show was full of copy paste from everything else, and they hoped nect season was less of that.
Now I've seen entire first season, and it's nothing like GoT or star trek or etc.
Cop guy scenes reminded me of CSI or whatever those shows are called.

>>79104195
I think the thing about it is that it doesn't really have a distinct flavour, it's just a very reasonable and grounded scifi setting, but since it's so rare for a scifi TV show to not be trading on some specific gimmick its lack of particular identity seems fresh and interesting.

>>79103280
2 reasons.
1. It was clear that Dresden was convincing enough to win over Fred Johnson. It doesn't come off well in the TV, but Dresden is part scientist and part slick business guy. Miller was afraid if he didn't put him down he would just talk his way into some kind of immunity and it would be too late to get justice.

2. By keeping the all the information a secret it makes it impossible for any one group to utilize the protomolecule in order to weaponize it or profit from it. Miller didn't trust Fred or OPA enough to allow them to keep the info

>>79104476
Actually, in retrospect they made a lot of changes with Thoth station that I didn't enjoy. In the show the station is far too spooky looking. The Thoth station in the book is supposed to be comfortable, with natural style lighting and plants everywhere; it's indicative of the money back the station.

Also, I hate that they changed the martian helmets. I know for the actors sake it makes more sense to show their faces, but the martian helmets from season one were much cooler.

>>79104638
The ones on the Donnager weren't Goliath suits though, if you notice Alex wears one of the Donnager style helmets during the space battle

Why was the space station protected by men with paintball guns? Also why did Miller limply that prisons are protected by guards with paintball guns?

>>79104871
Don't remember exactly, but I think it's because (a) the paintball guns are non-lethal riot control gear (sticky gel or something) and (b) the guards are equipped to fight the scientists because (c) they dont expect boarders

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what I find interesting is that it seems that the word - Donnager
is wholly made up
its not taken from some mythology
or some previously named things like don quichotte horse..
seems quite uncommon
at least by my quick google

>>79105078

Sounds like a family name to me

>>79095721
She must get pretty sweaty inside that suit, huh?

>>79105078
>>79105106
also funny thing was the mickeys that busted that belter for out dated license and then he suicide in to them...
they were called Scipio Africanus
the fucking big name for a two guys patrol vessel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scipio_Africanus

>>79095721
she has great DSLs

>>79104373
Haven't watched this show, are those missiles meant to be travelling at relativistic speeds?
That has to be close to a million miles they cover in a few seconds from how distant Saturn is in the first shot to how close the moon they hit is

>>79105185
Two people boarded, didn't say that there was only two people on it.

>Some guy on the Aurora4x board community game has a Scipio Africanus patrol craft. Guess he a Expanse Fan.

>>79105357
That took place of the course of some time. All the stuff inbetween was cut out of the Webm.

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>>79105185
I prefer the way the Scipio looked over the Tachi, it's a cleaner design.

>>79105357
>>79105425
Phoebe is also one of the furthest out of Saturn's moons

>>79105474
The Scipio design looks closer to what I imagined the Tachi to look like when reading the books

So Mars is basically Verhoeven's Starship Troopers? Just a bunch of hot young people who think nothing of patriotism and violence?

>>79105530
That too, you can see the chisel shape in it.

>>79105621
If they took the main body of the Scipio and attached it to the rear of the Tachi, that would be ideal

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>>79096814
Scoring all the ass, one ship at a time.

Steven Strait's cuter than Harrington, though.

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>tfw Naomi and Bobbie aren't giant chocolate space amazons like in the novels

watched the first episode earlier. looked shit. only interesting bit was the fedora man's fucked up neck and how it reveals his privilege or something.

>>79102397
Gotta have a strong womyn on the cast. Preferably more than one.

>>79102958
>manface meme
>>>/v/
You have to go back.

>>79105357
It's probably a fuckup, but you have to show the math on that million miles to actually convince the fanboys itt.

>>79105932
I love the design of the stealth ships. They look so inscrutable and ominous.

>>79106219
See >>79105425

So, in the first scene we meet the Martian cadets, they are in the locker room. We are introduced to three black males and two white females. That right there is a little suspect. In the next scene, the cadets are on the bridge, receiving orders from their commanding officer. In this scene we see a young, white male cadet.

Why wasn't he in the locker room in the previous scene? Does the white male get his own locker room, separate from the black men and white women?

>>79104871
>Why was the space station protected by men with paintball guns? Also why did Miller limply that prisons are protected by guards with paintball guns?
The scientists are all psychopaths that occasionally do stupid shit and need to be put down by the guards

>>79106465
>In the next scene, the cadets are on the bridge, receiving orders from their commanding officer. In this scene we see a young, white male cadet.
The people on the bridge are the heads of their sections. Bobbie is the leader of the grunts who will have to actually make the ground landing.

I don't think any of them are cadets.

>>79106465
black cadet implies he is a faggot
the lockers were for women and gays

The dude who plays the Fleet Commander is a terrible actor.

>>79101778
I would expect that they'd use this >>79102107 or have large screen camera views plus 3d models of the ship and it's surroundings created by the ship's sensor systems. A single camera view simply isn't sufficient for the kind of ship-to-ship combat we saw in the last episode.

>>79103280
Dresden is the kind of person who buys governments (in the book he's very obviously a corporate elite) and he was literally right in the middle of talking Fred into letting him just continue fucking around with the Protomolecule.
>>79104871
Because the scientists are all unhinged sociopaths, if they aren't kept busy they become violent. The station security was meant to keep its scientists in, not to keep other people out. They were banking on the war to keep all of the major factions in the solar system busy.

>>79108022
They're all pretty shit.

Can anyone tell me what Laidar is? And how it differs from normal Radar?

>>79108588
Laser instead of radio, maybe?

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>>79108394
Fuck you.

>>79108588
LIDAR uses lasers rather than radio waves.

>>79108628
God damn, she's so amazing. Not in a GMILF way, just being classy as fuck while also being a ruthless player.

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>tfw how Miller dies in the books

God damn it I wish I never read this shit. ;_;

>>79108588

Sonar uses sound
Radar uses radio
Lidar uses light

They all use them the same way

>>79107839
>black cadet implies he is a faggot

Didn't they say in the first season that Martian soldiers are castrated?

>>79108703
Light and radio are the same thing though.

The last 2 episodes of The Expanse season 1 were HAPPENING-tier. Does shit go down without remorse to such an extent where all the characters are in Despair in the coming seasons?

>>79108741
Different wavelengths.

>>79108741
Electromagnetic waves are the same thing as a stream of photons?

Merrican eduction perchance?

>>79106465
>how /pol/ watches television

>>79108741
Except they're not, moron.

>>79108817
Both part of the electro magnetic spectrum m8, travel at the same speed.

>>79108792
>>79108817
Wow, retards all up in this thread. Xrays, radio waves, microwaves, gamma waves, and "light" are all literally the same thing.

>>79108588
LIDAR uses a laser to create very accurate 3D point-cloud models of an object. With this they can identify specific parts of the ship, torpedo tubes, PDC mounts, thrusters, et-cetra.

>>79108872
>different wavelengths
>literally the same thing

Is Miller essential /characters liberals will never understand/ core?

>wtf whyd he shoot that guy! Just let him continue his godless science! Stop oppressing everyone with your morals Miller!

Never mind that he was using people like lab rats and rationalizing mass murder.

>>79108872
>literally the same thing.

They're not though

Shine a torch on your balls and then give them a dose of ionising radiation, see if they're the same

Trump pls overfund Nasa so we have public space travel in our lifetime :(

>>79109124
Stop politicizing everything

>>79109193
I'm not even a conservative, its just fun to upset people.

>>79085732
The only problem with her voice is that I'm not hearing it 24/7.

>>79109250
leave it in /pol/

>>79108691
Also in the GILF way.

>>79109124
Except I'm liberal and I get Miller.

>>79109560
Still no stable global magnetic field or suitable gravity, tho.

>>79109684
The solar wind blowing atmosphere off takes a lot longer than adding more by dumping comets into it.

>>79092330
T-dog!

>>79109745
So the Earth could survive without a magnetosphere if we just made more CO2?
I have literally no scientific acumen whatsoever but I really don't think 'just add more atmosphere' is the key to terraforming

>>79109840
It would be "just add more of the atmosphere mix we can actually breath".

>>79108716
/tv/ not understanding humor

>>79108588
uses lasers.

It very very accurate and used for surveys and so on.

>>79109840
On the human timescale it is. Gotta remember the Sun used to be a lot more energetic billions of years ago so it stripping away Mars atmo over time back then isn't even comparable to how it is now. It still gets blown off but at an easily manageable rate.

>>79109840
>So the Earth could survive without a magnetosphere if we just made more CO2?
>I have literally no scientific acumen whatsoever but I really don't think 'just add more atmosphere' is the key to terraforming

Mars has a magnetosphere, just a thin one.

To terraform mars you need to do two things.

add a breathable air.
Warm it up.

Adding more air to it will help in the warmup.

Is S2 better than S1 so far?

I liked S1 but I didn't find a lot of the plots interesting.

>>79110042
>Mars has a magnetosphere, just a thin one.

No it doesn't. Mars is geologically dead. It has no magnetosphere whatsoever.

>>79110254
>Unlike the Earth, Mars has no inner dynamo to create a major global magnetic field. This, however, does not mean that Mars does not have a magnetosphere; simply that it is less extensive than that of the Earth.

http://www.space.dtu.dk/english/Research/Universe_and_Solar_System/magnetic_field

>>79110042
>, just a thin one.

well yeah. So thin it doesn't make for a decent enough barrier against cosmic radiation

You neeed a moving nucleus for taht

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>>79110233
Yes, but we've only seen 2 episodes.
It remains to be seen if it will maintain this level throughout the season.

>>79110311

A magnetic field is not a magnetosphere. Magnetosphere implies scale. It's covered in iron oxide, of course it has a magnetic field.

>>79108770
If they make it to book 5, you'll see some serious habbenings.

>>79110391
The main issue is that it is lopsided. Mars has about 1500 nanotesla worth . Earth's is ~65000 nanotesla for comparison) but it really does not exist in the north. 1500 nanotesla is actually enough to provide some real protection for humans, which means the south is much easier to settle then the northern parts of Mars (where you must dig deep to protect yourself.

>>79110422
Please be bait.

>>79110538
Ah the old Martian dichotomy.

>>79110557

prove me wrong faget

>>79108770
Shit is going to go WAY down in the next 1-2 episodes.

>>79110598
You've already done it yourself.

>>79108390

Dresden was the only one who probably knew how to beat it (protomolocule) too, killing him was very stupid

>>79110422
Read what I posted again.

"This however does not mean that mars does not have a manetosphere."

I realize that it a double negitive, but it clearly states that mars does have one. Mars Global Surveyor is the one that detected it.

It is about 1500 nanotelsa,

>>79110598
Anon >>79110311 already did. No one is claiming Mars has a earth class Magnetosphere, but it exists and has been measured in detail.

>>79110660

It doesn't, though. It has an overall magnetic field with some regions of higher intensity as a legacy of the magnetosphere it once had but there's a reason the word magnetosphere exists, why they don't just refer to it as the Earth's magnetic field.

>>79110642
>implying he would have helped them destroy it.

Typical liberal atheist, defend le science man no matter what.

Miller was right it had to be done.

>>79110642
>Beat it.
Read the book or wait and see what happens next.

>>79110560
>>79110560
>Ah the old Martian dichotomy.
Yep. Mars real estate that useful is much smaller then a lot of it unless you are willing to deal with the rads

>>79110778
The south is also warmer thanks to the seasons Mars experiences.

>>79109840
We don't know exactly but I think it's fair to say it would take geological time periods for Mars to lose an appreciable atmosphere.

Look at Venus. It doesn't have an internal geomagnetic dynamo. It holds onto its atmosphere via the magnetic field generated between the interaction of the atmosphere with solar winds alone.

>>79110741
Anon - it is defined as "the region surrounding the earth or another astronomical body in which its magnetic field is the predominant effective magnetic field." - that is the definition. Some have slight rewordings.

Prior to 1997 it was thought mars did not. However after 1997 it was discovered that yes, Mars has one and that Mars magnetic field is the predominant effective magnetic field and can be detected in orbit.

>>79110884

But you hold on to carbon dioxide a lot easier than you hold on to oxygen. What would be the point in generating a Venus-like atmosphere on Mars, we don't breathe carbon dioxide

>>79110827
Yep.

>I will never live on mars
;__;

>Elon Musk was at three of the meetings with Trump
>we'll see space colonisation in our life times

I haven't felt hope for so long, that it feels so strange now.

>>79110963
>But you hold on to carbon dioxide a lot easier than you hold on to oxygen.
Says who? Planetary atmospheres lose oxygen quickly but that's because it gets used up oxidizing the crust.

>>79110560
>>79110538
>>79110827
Except for the fact that the south has a much higher elevation and therefore a much rarer atmosphere. The north would be much more habitable than the south once Mars gains an atmosphere.

>>79111171
Well there is the Valles Marineris, Argyre Planitia and Hellas Planitia, they'd be good places. Hellas in particular since its below datum.

>>79111171
>>79111171
>The north would be much more habitable than the south once Mars gains an atmosphere.

Well once you have a atmosphere, you might start getting surface water, then a lot of the north will be under water.

>>79111300
That would be a shitload of water and the temperature would need to be a lot higher than it is for it to be liquid.

>>79111300
There isn't that much water.

>>79111335
Earth breathable air would put it at about -40 -> -35 degrees (C of course).

But if you added that much atmosphere you might as well add greenhouse gasses to get it above 0.

If the Mars Ice caps melted the whole north of mars would be under about 18 feet of water IIRC.

>>79111511
>If the Mars Ice caps melted the whole north of mars would be under about 18 feet of water IIRC.
Is that assuming none of it was transported south through evaporation and it all just stayed in the north?

>>79111392
More than five million cubic kilometers of ice have been identified at or near the surface of modern Mars, enough to cover the whole planet to a depth of 35 meters (115 ft). Even more ice is likely to be locked away in the deep subsurface


Christensen, P. R. (2006). "Water at the Poles and in Permafrost Regions of Mars". GeoScienceWorld Elements. 3 (2): 151–155.

>>79111584
I was wrong - there enough water to cover the entire surface of mars, not just the northern regions.

>>79108390
>>79103280
In The Vital Abyss it tells you about some weird thing that makes people sociopaths so they can do this research for the company without giving a shit.
IIRC he lets the pov character try it and I think it maybe hints that Dresden has it too.
I imagine the pov character from that book is going to be the one guy they took alive.

>>79111586
A) That's if the crust doesn't hold any water, which it would. There is a lot more water below Earth's surface than above it.
B) That's if Mars was perfectly flat. It's not therefore it would cover a whole lot less.

>>79111786
The 10 year old source means the number is a low ball compared to what we know now. Since then MRO has done a shitload more work, Curiosity landed, MAVEN, ISRO and ExoMars TGO entered orbit.

Last November JPL announced the finding of an ice pack beneath the surface of a comparable volume to Lake Superior (MRO examined it).

>>79111786
That is why I said >>79111300
The north as a rule is much lower and would be the main location for the water to end up.

>>79111915
I don't think it would cover the entire South. I've never seen or heard of predictions that expect that. Mars is still relatively dry compared to Earth.

>>79112026
I do not as well. But the North would be well flooded into a sea.

>>79112407
Sorry, I meant North. I don't think it would cover the entire North. I've never heard or scene any predictions that say it would. A significant portion but not all of it.

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>>79112614
Still a huge chunk of the north...