BJD/Doll Thread: DDH-01 only looks good modified edition

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>>5859855
Mmm. Fresh bread.
>Want a Venitu? Too bad. Mr. Cho is done.
>Petty drama and shitslinging between Echowigs and other people
>Norman Reedus has a creepy BJD fan.
>Thunderbolt Fantasy is puppets. The aesthetic is somewhat similar, but is not the same. Please stop asking.
>Office-chan falls down the rabbit hole.
>”BJD lonely planet” – Google map for doll places in Tokyo
>DOA rules modified to give more leeway on dolls on topic
>Marker-dying wigs will probably turn into a tragedy.
>More FB page retardation
>If you can’t decide between which face sculpt you want, don’t come to us.
>Peakswood has pretty positive reviews, but wait time can be long.
>DIM having a huge sale on discontinued sculpts. Found out more than one of us likes Flowne.
>We define “normal” doll collectors. (answer: socially adjusted people who don’t bring unnecessary baggage)
>People selling dirty dolls or failed mods
>A wild Coffee appears at the end.
Speaking of Coffee, did Kayke make it to BJDC? She finally got wise enough to separate her art from her insane shit, but said she was in an inpatient facility.

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>>5859839
I like beansproutmomo too. I think the anon that posted her Coffee was pretty much alluding to the fact that this doll is a trainwreck.

I just impulse purchased a bunch of vintage vinyl dolls. Can't wait to have them in my grubby little hands. I know one is a Susie Sad Eyes she needs a bit of work.

>>5859864
I posted the pic and I have no idea who Beansproutmomo is but that doll is absolute trash no matter whose doll it is.

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i swear you have to sacrifice your first born child to sell anything on the market place these days

ive been trying to sell this head for ages and all i get is people asking if i can repaint it or make the eyebrows thinner / make it look girlier. its like. no. put a long wig on it, BOOM its a girl. aren't thick eyebrows in style these days? /rant

>>5859898

wait, why would you repaint it if you're trying to get rid of it? personally if they buy it they're responsible for repainting it, in my opinion.

>>5859904
its because i do faceups and people assume that means they can ask me to repaint anything i have for sale, when clearly i intend to sell the head as is because the faceup on it is a part of what i'm selling.

basically its just people trying a score a faceup without having to hire me properly while also thinking they won't have to pay extra

>>5859906

well that's a whole lot of bullshit.

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>>5859884
dropped that.

>>5859921
first two are pretty cute, but susie sad eyes is just creepy

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>>5859898
Just cover up the eyebrows with bangs.

Those people are just trying to mooch a free face-up/retouch. Then, complain again later after they receive it.

>>5859926
haha, yeah. she needs some TLC

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Guys I don't know what's wrong with me. Recently I've been having this irresistible urge to buy a resinsoul for no reason. I can't think of a character or design or whatever but I just want one. I hate how shit sculpted they are and I have yet to see a good looking MSD resinsoul boy. I need serious help. I know if I even get one I'll hate it. I don't know what to do. maybe it's because I never had a MSD boy and it's just me craving one?

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>>5860000
>checked
You could look at other MSD boys and see if you feel the same. I agree that the only real good Resinsouls I've seen are girls.

Do you know /why/ you have an urge? You can probably get a junk Volks MSD off Mandarake for cheapish and see if you like it. My problem when I owned one was finding clothes that didn't make him look like one of Crackupmadness's generic scene dolls.

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>>5860000
God?

>>5859921
First one might be Holly Hobby minus her bonnet.

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>>5860034
I think the reason I want one is for the double jointed body. I'm pretty sure even the body is bad quality too which I'm not even sure if I want to hybridize it. The Seng sculpt especially caught my attention. I mean when I look at the Seng head sculpt I like that it has a less babyish face compared to most MSD boys I've seen and I think to myself what if I buy one and then maybe with a good faceup it will actually look cool. But then I see every picture of Resinsoul dolls, even the "good" ones they have a very identifiable soulless looks to them that you can pinpoint it's a resinsoul/bobobie. I'm afraid even after giving it a good faceup and proper fitting eyes, it will still look ugly.

Sorry for ramble. In conclusion I think I'm more drawn to the frail looking double jointed body and I think the hands are really cute.

I'm glad that I sew my own doll clothes so I don't have to worry about the scene punk rock kawaii desu goth mess that's in the market. I really dislike the crackedupmadness clones.

>>5860047
Nope, just a constipated looking David Kuncci.

>>5859864
I think the saddest thing about Coffee is that it didn't have to be a trainwreck. Another few months of refining, sanding, and symmetry work, and it could have really been a nice doll.

Instead Kayke did almost no work on her for half a year, and shipped her off to Haru when people started getting worried about losing their money. I hope she learns from this. She isn't a terrible sculptor, but Coffee didn't meet the standards of competitor art dolls.

>>5860107
It's an 'I love you Honey Amy' doll according to the package

>>5859898
Is that a minifee head? How much are you asking?
Those eyebrows are lovely.

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>>5860303
thanks! yes its a minifee / fairyline head. the FLAM event head that came out when the fairyline was introduced. I'm asking $140. (I charge $60 for my faceups, so I consider it a fair price as its technically asking $80 for the head plus $60 for the faceup.)

How about that a88_angel vs eldurwen problem transaction?
Makes me scared to sell anything over paypal now.

>>5860312
You are selling a head to a very specific eyebrow market and assuming the head will be exactly what the buyer had in mind and would have commission you for. They might as well buy their own head and send it to you.
As well done as it is, it doesn't have the average minifee appeal. I love your work but those eyebrows are just too much for most people.
I'm not saying to lower the price either but it's easy to see why its not selling fast.

Just a bit of a confession.
I love working with water colour pencils for faceups, but during photography the result looks so grainy and ugly. irl looks beautiful in my eyes but I don't even take picture of my dolls anymore because of the graininess.

>>5860312
Someone will want a boy with that mold eventually. They're gorgeous brows, and excellent work.

>>5860312
Faceup work is great. Them some gorgeous eyebrows right there.

>>5860604
That's sorta the main problem with water colour faceups. :\ honestly, just learn to use watercolour paint. Then you'll have lovely lashes that also photograph well.

>>5859898
Been in a similar situation here. If you don't want to wipe the faceup, that's fine. You're just going to have to wait for a fucking long time before anyone bites. If you actually want your doll to sell ASAP, you'll have to wipe it. It hurts to wipe something you put so much effort into (or not? Maybe you're one of those super fast no effort types, but you get my point.), but it has to be done. People aren't looking to secondhand shop for a doll with your particular idea of a good faceup in mind. They're looking for a cheap, ready to work on, ready to ship to them doll. That doll usually needs to be blank unless you're Andreja or something.

>>5860312
Pretty much what other people said. If I was to buy this head I would wipe that faceup asap, because I just don't care for it. Meaning that for me paying extra for your service is already in waste of money, so I would most likely buy a cheaper one with no faceup than yours. Specially when is only an event head and mnf

>>5860953
im not just selling the head, im selling the faceup, so obviously someone who is going to wipe it is not the intended market.

>>5860552
>>5860616
>>5860843
yeah, thanks guys. most people who hire me seem to hire me specifically because of my eyebrow work. the majority of the comments i get on my faceups, though few, almost always mention the eyebrows, so anyone who hires me is going to end up with eyebrows like this on their doll anyway.

i posted a bunch of pics of it on my flickr to help promote it, hopefully that helps.

>tow you see people with really well dressed dolls but no face-ups

>>5861122

Then stop complaning about how it won't sell fast enough, you want a fast sale wipe that shit and lower the price otherwise wait it out.

>>5861170

I have 3 dolls like that. Wait times for faceup artists are a bitch.

>>5861170
Same like other anon, most of my dolls are well dressed with angora wigs and all that stuff, but often blank/with old face-ups.
I paint them myself but am too busy with commissions, and I feel bad painting one of mine while I have commissions at home.

I finally painted one of mine after he had his face-up since 2012, and even though I asked my current customer (who's a good friend too) and they told me I should fucking finally paint him...the guilt is still killing me.

>>5860185
As somebody who has bought several Chinese brand dolls that even managed to look good in most photos, and then regretted it... just don't do it. You will regret it and it will be the color of a banana before you find a buyer.

>>5861176
everyone needs to complain sometimes anon. and anyway, its just a reflection of how bad the market sucks. back in the day i'd put up a head for sale and it'd be sold within the week, no matter what kind of faceup i had on it, and that was back when i wasn't as good.

>>5861468
>tiny preview
>enlarge
>close

Guys I'm at work. :/

>>5861509
i would have spoilered it if /toy/ had that option. also it was labeled "reedusporn" and i said there was gay porn photoshopped into it right in the post, why would you open it?

>>5861398
Thanks for the input anon. I thought so too myself. It's probably just an impulse and I'll get over it in a month or so.

>>5860843
Thanks for the suggestion anon. I'm practicing my brush strokes on a spare resin headcap before doing a full paint faceup. But for some reason the water colour paint turns runny and blotchy on resin. I use those tubed water colour paints too so it's not like I use tons of water to thin it out. Maybe I should use flow aid and acrylic instead?

>>5861519
definitely use acrylic. and use fine brushes, 20/0 script liner brushes work best for me.

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>>5861530
I'll definitely experiment with acrylic then. I was looking for a good brush too so thanks for the suggestion.

>>5861217
Have you tried putting yourself down in one of your open commission slots? That way you're not bumping an existing customer, and you schedule some time to do your dolls.

>>5861509

why are you even browsing 4chan at work?

>>5861549
I actually never have free spots.
I made the mistake of having a waitlist (and sucking at saying no), so for nearly three years I had a waitlist that was a mile long and need to be worked off.

I am finally at the point though that I only have five customers on the list anymore, and I decided to close shop for a few months then.
To get my dolls back in shape and finally use my airbrush for my own parts (did well over hundred airbrush commissions, airbrushed something for myself...twice).

Just need to wait a lil' longer and then I am finally free.
No waitlist for me in future too.

>>5861519
I use only watercolor paints (and did very well as a faceup artist before closing shop).

I think acrylic has its advantages (I have nothing against it), but you can pry my watercolors out of my cold dead hands. I have had one ceramic plate with paint on it for like TWO YEARS that I can just wet and mix as I please. No cleanup. Same for the airbrush. I have to clean that shit out like once a year.

Watercolor is THE BEST if you're lazy about cleanup, but willing to work with it until it does what you want. It just takes some practice to get the right mix of water/pigment/binder. Some brands are gonna be better than others too.

>>5861566
>he doesn't have a comfy office job

>>5861578
I wholly support you in escaping the yolk of commissions. Good luck. Calling it quits on commissioned faceups was the most freeing thing I have done in a long time. I'll do them for myself or for friends or the occasional trade, but man...I am never doing it regularly again.

Even the very best customers just need (and deserve) a lot of attention and I have a life. There's so much involved past just the painting.

I kinda feel like everyone should either learn to paint their dolls, or else get REALLY good at something else so they can trade art for art...because I feel like we're going to reach a tipping point at which most of the good, reliable artists all collectively flip a table and go FUCK THIS.

>>5861468
She should not be posting this on the internet, it's really creepy. I'm pretty sure he could sue.

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>>5861468
This fucking hobby sometimes man lmao
Like, it's not even the whole modelling a doll after a real ass person thing that irks me (but with that being said, it still isn't really my cup of tea, but to each their own I guess), it's pictures like this. This is so goddamn creepy.

>>5861601
seriously. if she doesnt want the pictures getting around, or if she was just making them for a friend to go along with their fanfics (like she claims) WHY does she insist on tagging them norman reedus so that anybody looking up norman reedus could find them? flickr has a private / friends only option for uploads, fucking use them, goddamn.

>>5861605
What if his family members look him up and find it? Imagine how creeped out you'd be by that. It's really weird. Something about making a sexual doll of someone is so much creepier than drawing lewd art (though I think that's creepy too in most cases, personally), it's how they can hold it and manipulate it I guess, I dunno. It's weird.

>>5861611
Yeah, not to mention the amount of time and money you have to invest into a BJD in comparison

>>5861604
yeah its one thing to make a daryl doll or something, but they state very clearly that this is norman reedus, its representing an actual living man, not a character from a TV show or movie. i understand slash fiction of characters, but imagining an actually existing person in crazy sex situations is just creepy. and like >>5861611 said. its one thing to write about it or draw pictures, but spending thousands on a physical doll and posing it lewdly is in a different world of weird entirely.

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>>5861580
I won't give up on watercolour yet. The watercolour brand I use is pretty good so I don't think that's the problem but rather as you said, it's the right water to paint consistency that makes or breaks it.

Btw, I'm going to have an open mouth sculpt with teeth coming in and I'm terrified of painting it.


>>5861468
I really hate this hobby sometimes...

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>>5861604
No, you know what's creepy? Re-born dolls.

>>5861653
no one is buying sculpted penises to put on their realistic dead baby dolls and doing porn photoshoots with them, as far as i know. so, no, making a gay porn doll of a real man is still creepier.

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>>5861589
Thanks anon.
It actually feels like a fucking light at the end of the tunnel.

Most of my customers were great and easy going, none of them did mind the wait times either (because it's a tie between "wait forever but get a good looking doll" versus "wait forever and still don't get a slot anywhere").
It still made me feel bad, even if they all were super happy in the end.

They also probably accept it because you are right, lots of artists stopped taking commissions.
The skilled ones have given up the commission thing, lots of them because of the same reason I look forward to stop: being able to take care of your own dolls again.
I constantly get people asking me for slots, but I had to start saying no for my own sanity.
I also look forward to finally airbrush something for me...had mine since 2013 (!) and airbrushed something for myself twice.
Had easily over 80 airbrush commissions since then though.

Honestly get a warm feeling just thinking about being able to look at my list and see nobody there.

It's always something here. I thought I'd seen some shit, now I can't unsee Reedus's resin dick.

Are any of you interested in Souldoll? They have an event and they put out a new Souloid boy and girl, I'm looking for someone to take the boy head. They look awesome.

>>5861659
Oh you sweet, summer child. I have seen some shit.

>>5862122
>link to some shit.

>>5862122

pics or it didn't happen let's have the hook up

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>>5861653
Reborn collectors scare me more than the dolls themselves desu
>>5862122
Anon pls. You're making me nervous.

>see item online listed as "Fashion Doll Cafe Set"
>cute not-pink-Barbie shit so I buy it to display my Rement
>box is way bigger than expected
>realize its American Doll sized
welp I guess Miku can be a barista now

>>5862760
Is she getting a Starbucks uniform?

>>5861653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEsF9j6orZA

>>5862861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C3cBQz0JSg

are dolfie dreams worth it? im 800 out of 1200 aud into saving for a miku dolfie dream and im wodering for that price is it worth it or is there a better quality doll? this is my first btw.
aso i found a seller but how do i tell if its a legit or a replica/fake?

>>5863086

First there are no replica/fake dollfie dreams. They are not resin and cannot be recast.

Second do you like the way the doll looks? If yes then it's worth it, dollfie dreams are quality dolls.

Now would I buy a dd miku? No way. Miku has so much fucking merchandise that if I did give a shit about her I'd just buy something cheaper and be happy with it, but that's just me.

>>5863086
I don't understand the "worth it" part. What is your plan for the miku doll? $1200 USD is a bad deal. You can buy it for less even after middle-man fees. Generally, Dollfie dreams have very few bootleg/fakes.

>>5861463
Nah anon, the market has just change, most people now really like to make their dolls their own regardless if it looks nice or not. So they would go for blanks/lower prices instead of your awesome faceup, that's just how it is. I have sold 3 blank heads in the past 2 months, none of them sat in the market longer than 2 weeks. Living in the past is not gonna sell your stuff.

>>5863106
but if i get a olfie dream version of her i can get clothes for that doll size and other things correct?

>>5863108
where can i get one cheaper? also its 800 usd since i said it was 1200 aud

>>5863086
Did you mean is there a better quality doll of Miku? (Probably not, but that is subjective) Check Azone 1/3 scale doll and 1/6 scale dolls.

Or, a better quality of dolls in general? (Tons, lots of them posted in this thread)

>>5863110

Yep you can buy clothes that fit the small bust dd3 body and your good to go.

Look don't take my last sentence up there to heart, I'm one of those fuckers who thinks the whole waifu thing is horse shit and that most dollfie dreams are so same face you could buy any of them and dress them up right and they could be hatsune miku.

>>5863111
missed the aud part

800 USD for a DD Miku is a fair deal. If you spend a lot of time hunting for a better deal, its possible for less than 800, but probably won't be much less.

>>5863110
If you buy clothes from Volks made for DD line, it will fit almost flawlessly.

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> tfw fairyland feeple60 boy bodies are so impossible to get that not even recasters have it.

fairyland is the worst.

>>5863086
Jungle has Snow and regular Miku for 75,600 yen. Not sure if you've included customs or shipping etc though. Jungle is a reliable seller. >>5863113
Azone isn't better quality than volks, lol.

>>5862760
Post picture, fag.

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unboxing?

>>5863349

Yes plz

>>5862622
this doll looks like a smug hipster i want to punch it in the face

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>>5863424
Dude, that doll is a really good customized Dollshe Rosen.
Concept and execution is so good, Kayke and the other girls with their hipster nigger bitches won't ever get close to that quality.

>>5863349
A dildo? For relieving tension?

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>>5863525
A dildo with that much packaging?

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>>5863362

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come'on already what could it be?

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Uuuuugh, its a big one!

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Lori, stop watching and come help me. I don't pay you to stand around just to look pretty.

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>>5863557
>*sigh*

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Come on, put your back into it!

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So, what is it? A Monolith maybe?

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Be honest. You did this for me, right?

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>*heart attack* *dies*

>>5863580
congrats on the new boyfriend!

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>>5863588
Thanks!

Last one.

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>>5863598
YEEESSSS!!!!! THEY'RE PERFECT FOR EACHOTHER!!!!

>>5863424
I agree with you anon. Well customized or not, it still looks extremely punchable.

>>5863598
>hard working office-chan with her traditional husbando
I'd read that slice of life manga T.B.H.

Can we actually talk about re-born? What is up with that hobby? anyone got gossip?

>>5863598
That's cute, that's super cute. Who is dominant in this relationship though?

>>5863850

this isn't a re-born thread, so no.

>>5862144
>>5862294

not that anon but here you go, enjoy
>https://www.dollssoreal.com/products/front-and-back-anatomically-correct-torso
I've seen add-on dicks available in circumcised and uncircumcised, but I'm eating right now and don't feel like digging that up.

>>5863988

i don't get how this is so terrible. i had dolls that were anatomically correct before

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>>5863988
Never mind I found some.
>https://www.macphersoncrafts.com/en/online-store/doll-parts/tummies-torsos

>>5863995
I think its just the "baby dick" factor that's creepy. And that reborns are horrifying uncanny valley hellspawn and the people who get hardcore into them are even crazier than BJD people.

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Incoming cute custom art dolls that will make excellent fantasy creatures/pets for your dolls.

I hate my life. More expensive collectibles, here I come.

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Here's another artist. She makes resin moulds of their face where the previous artists makes their faces out of clay.

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>>5863583
office-chan can now have her stay at home husband that helps distress her after a rough day at work. It's too beautiful. Cooks her hot meals worthy of her and comments on how great her legs are.

>>5863598
Heh, I was right about the dildo thing.

>>5864153
>>5864155
this is bjd thread bitch, stop shilling this shit. fuck off.

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>>5860552
>How about that a88_angel vs eldurwen problem transaction?
Eh, I think they both should have been up front with each other about what they wanted and been more up front. Yeah, I think Eldurwen had some buyer's remorse, but should have probably stated what body condition they wanted.

>>5861516
Reeduspornanon, it gets deleted if you post it here. Next time you can put in a link to the gallery or whatever.

>>5861566
Breaks exist. (which is what I'm doing right now too) :^)

>>5861653
>>5862622
I concur

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>>5864640
Fucking seriously. >>5864153 I see these stupid fucking threads every now and then in /toy/ and they're always looking for asspats. My doll doesn't need your little freak creatures.

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>>5864155
That shit is fucking creepy, wth.

Need to post some qt dolls so my eyes can recover.

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>>5863851
>>5864415
>>5864588

WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU SPENT OUR RENT MONEY BETTING ON HORSES??

>>5864965
>
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU SPENT OUR RENT MONEY BUYING DOLLIES??

>>5864415
He had better rub her feet after a long day in high-heels. Where's his little floral apron and toilet scrubbing brush?

>>5864965
Oh, my, is the next set of clothes a dominatrix outfit?

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>>5859921
got all my ebay dollies in and promptly washed them/ started to process them. My desk looks like kinda weird now.

They're all in pretty good condition expect the Susie Sad Eyes has an unfortunate hair cut and a gangrenous looking foot. The bigger doll was bigger than I expected and her hair is...greasy? waxy?

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This was also tagged as ddlg and now I'm a bit scared

>>5863150
these dolls look gross

>>5859855
this one looks good, how do i make my own?

>>5865200
Why are you posting your cheap plastic toys in a BJD thread? Nobody cares.

>>5865285
it's a BJD/doll thread? doesn't say fucking BJD only.
they're vinyl heads.
I'm going to do face ups on them and re-roots.

salty much?

>>5865285
shut the fuck up

>>5865294
I'm interested in your progress anon. I'd like to know how you're able to clean those dolls up and maybe make them look decent.

>>5865294
Your dolls are not on topic for this thread. They don't have ball joints, their hair is rooted, they only have vinyl heads, they're cheap, mass produced, kids toys/fashion dolls.

That's why you should be in the fashion doll thread and not here. Do you see anyone else here posting dolls similar to yours?

>>5865294
fuck you those are not bjd
there are no balls, no joints, no just no fuck off,
take that shit over to the >>>>>/trash/

>>5865308
ok, fine. I didn't realize.

>>5865309
it's like saying ATM machine

>>5862828
Yes.

>>5863192
When I get home, haven't had a chance to set it up cus of work. It's the Espari one that B&N sells.

>>5865309
Dude fucking calm down. This technically is the doll general, the other threads are all offshoots of this so anon isn't breaking any rules. Dollfies aren't bjd either nor are Azone but they go in here just fine. If you're gonna be this anal then go to DOA.

>>5864936
I think accusing a88_angel of selling her a recast while doing no research was very immature. I've met Eldurwen a few time irl and I still don't feel I could trust her in a sale now. It also makes me worried to sell through paypal since paypal sided with the buyer because they couldn't verify private messages on DOA.

>>5865285
I'm interested. Please calm your tits.

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>>5865308
Nigger go back to tumblr or DOA or wherever you came from. Anon isn't spamming the dolls. Stop being so assblasted.

>>5863568
>>5863566
>>5863561
>>5863557

This is fucking adorable

>>5865534

Wait, if this is the “doll general“, why was the other anon told this was not the place to talk when Reborns came up?

I'd rather stick to BJDs, DDs and the occassional talk about overlapping dolls (like Azone/Blythe/Pullip, since those are popular among BJD collectors too) instead of making this the go-to thread for every doll type.
Else it's silly Reborns are not allowed but other random vinyl dolls (instead of posting those in the Fashion Doll thread).

>>5865709
Have to second this. Plastic doll anon is being kinda rude and this anon is just pointing out that they'd belong better in the fashion doll thread.
Sorry but I come here to see BJDs and Dollfie Dream like dolls, not vintage plastic ones.

>>5865709
Because Reborns and their owners are exceptionally creepy.

maybe there should be a separate BJD thread so people who wants to see bjds can go there

>>5865777
You would be rude too if your dolls got called trash and off topic in a generally ambitiously titled thread. I'm sorry if I came off as rude. The dolls are so cheaply made its hilarious. But it seems very standard for vintage dolls of the type.

>>5865534
No, it's not doll general. The "doll" in BJD/Doll refers to off-topic dolls that are related to BJDs.

If I'm not mistaken Azone is a type of Obitsu and is commonly collected by BJD owners. They're not exactly "cheap," either. And ofc Dollfie are made by VOLKS. Plus, I don't think I've ever seen a Dollfie get posted in this thread. Maybe once?

You can't pick and choose which off topic dolls are allowed here. If they are in no way related to BJD, then they should be in a different thread. I'll take a guess and say 95% of the people here didn't click on BJD/Doll Thread in order to look at a toy called "Susie Sad Eyes."

>>5866227
>I don't think I've ever seen a Dollfie get posted in this thread
Literally every OP has a picture of a Dollfie Dream. This one included.

>>5866306

Dollfie =/= Dollfie Dream, anon.
Dollfie are Volks cheap 1/6 vinyl line.
Anything with an added term (Super Dollfie, Dollfie Dream) refers to a different type/line of dolls.

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>>5865896
So what?
I think lots of male 35+ something DD owners are creepy af with their "daughter" thing, while taking panty shots of their dolls acting all "nooo, don't do it daddy!".
Or BJD owners with glitter abuse emo MSD bois fingered by big beefy 70cm guys.

Still doesn't change that if some random vinyl doll is allowed here because it's claimed to be the "doll general", Reborns need to be on-topic too.
In my opinion both don't really fit here, but that has nothing to do with how creepy they or the community are.

>>5865989
This IS the general BJD thread/doll thread for all kinds connected to BJDs.
If you follow these threads long enough you can see they are pretty much BJD/DD only, with occassional talk about other doll types that are also collected by BJD owners.
There's a reason MHs are not posted here, or other western fashion dolls.

>>5866392
>Reborns need to be on-topic too
No, dolls and their owner are creepy, but reborn dolls are creepier on a whole other level.
It would be like allowing child pornography on a pornography thread.

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>>5866414
Naw.
It's more like allowing fetish porn in a thread for regular vanilla porn.
Someone posts shitting/pissing porn and gets told to fuck off.
Suddenly someone posts vomiting porn and people say it's okay, because it's a general porn thread, even if neither of them are suited for a vanilla porn thread and the thread is not supposed to be one for all types of porn.

Either it's a general or not.
They are all dolls, no matter if you think they are creepy or not.
You either kick them out because they are off-topic and don't overlap with the main dolls talked about here OR you truly say it's a general.

Again, I think both are not suited for this thread, and I also think Reborns are uncomfortable (but I think babies/children itself are annoying and ugly anyway).
It's still silly to say no to one type and then allow another while claiming "well, it's a general doll thread"

>>5866430
Exactly.
And the fact is, it's not a general doll thread.

Are we allowed to post Beanie Babies in here? American Girl Dolls? Matryoshka Russian dolls? Cloth dolls?

You get my point.

>>5866414
I didn't want them allowed, I just wanted some dank juicy gossip about their creepy owners.

>>5866435
We don't allow puppets that look like BJD here, why do we allow dolls that don't.

Personally I think Vinyl Anon would be better suited in the monster high thread, because they do a lot of rerooting/custom and it's more their vibe than the fashion doll collectors.

>>5866615
there IS a fashion doll general right here >>5841118

>A thread for Barbie dolls, Disney dolls, any dolls that aren't Monster High/Ever After High or BJD.

>>5866671
I know there is, but I was saying the Monster High General might be more helpful for restoring/repainting/rerooting, because I know they do those things. I don't know if the fashion doll general does.

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>>5865294
Honestly, they would be better off in the Fashion Doll thread here >>5841118

Sorry we've never specified, but usually the /doll/ part of it are Asian dolls like Pullip, DD, Azone, Momoko, etc. We don't talk about those much, but they haven't been popular enough here to have their own threads (except Picco Neemo/Assault Lily). I'm not sure how well a vintage doll thread would do on its own, but I feel it has more in common with the other fashion doll thread.

>>5865282
Most of the good custom heads are off Yahoo Japan Auctions. You can buy base bodies/heads/standard models/etc. from the volks store
>volks.co.jp

>>5866111
Getting assblasted on 4chan of all places is still kind of funny to me.

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This thread reeks of autism.

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When do you accept that you're a certain companies bitch? After a wishlist full, after more than one doll being owned from them?
Every time I think I've got it in my head what I want, I want more. Extras always seal the deal for me too.
>Pic related

>>5866851
>Most of the good custom heads are off Yahoo Japan Auctions
Does anyone know what words/katakana or whatever to search for them on YJA?

also more non-human bjd plz.

>>5866487
As far as I can tell there isn't much drama of the sort we see on here. Its by and far older empty nester or regretful childless women, so the drama is more akin to dance mom stuff if anything. "I'm angry that you won that auction I bid on", "You have a bassinet for your dolls? I have a whole NURSERY" kind of stuff. They also seem to be... hm. Not more tolerant of the creeps, per se, but more willing to ignore them and just pay attention long enough to know when the obese 60 year old with 200 high end dolls croaks and her family dumps them on Ebay. Most real drama seen is related just to scammers selling fake, bad quality, or nonexistant dolls, and at least one case that I've seen where someone used a Reborn to fake having a real baby for a mom blog.

Actually I think a major thing we're not thinking about is that a lot of what makes them creepy, like the cuddling and treating them like real babies, is such a major part of their hobby that it isnt considered creepy and wouldn't be brought up at all except by outsiders. It would be like them finding us and thinking its so creepy that most of us take our dolls outdoors and take photos, or that many of us just keep them on shelves or in glass cases instead of in little doll beds and cradles.

>>5867841
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Actually I think a major thing we're not thinking about is that a lot of what makes them creepy, like the cuddling and treating them like real babies, is such a major part of their hobby that it isnt considered creepy and wouldn't be brought up at all except by outsiders. It would be like them finding us and thinking its so creepy that most of us take our dolls outdoors and take photos, or that many of us just keep them on shelves or in glass cases instead of in little doll beds and cradles.

Yep, the different creep factors between BJD and reborn are astounding. It's as simple as this:

If I go on youtube and look for ball jointed dolls, i get stuff like unboxing, custom tutorials and sculpting.

Reborns? you get stuff like this as the norm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WHdvF-WYps

You can easily do this yourself, just go search ball jointed doll and then reborn baby dolls. The really creepy reborn ones are the one where they edit in baby noises or kids talking :^)

>>5867674
You don't use the Aleado site? It's basically an automatic translated website of YJA, and its it own agent.

http://auc.aleado.com//yahoo/25864-catlist.html

This link should work, they have it sorted by Dollfies and Super Dollfies/BJDs. Haven't used it myself yet though, still looking for that one doll, outfit, head, etc.

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>>5867879
I didn't know it existed, I'm only new hahaa.


>so this is how I go broke

>>5867605
Fuck Unoa makes a tall mature msd guy? He looks reeeaalll nice in that tiny picture. I do not need another thing to add to my wishlist great.

>>5867870
>>5867841
Makes sense though what I really don't understand is why. Babies are pretty ugly, you can't give them as much personality as the BJDs we see here and most of all they do just look like dead babies. They really do, they're too real and it's creepy.
Not to mention pretending they're real, that's super creepy.

>>5868389

It seems like your having trouble understanding why people like things you dont. Turns out people like different shit and thy dont have to justify it to you so you can understand it. The sooner you make peace with this the better.

Seriously this hobby becomes a lot more fun when you learn to say 'yeah im not really in to that, but you do you. '

>>5862622
I don't know if it's the fact that I dated a girl that looks like a lighter version of this, but god damn that is gorgeous. Also that hand articulation looks mighty fine. Very natural range in the picture.

>>5867977
Ironically that's exactly the doll that made me make the post. I wanted a doll boy for my unoa girl and I think SD/MSD looks disgusting. The faces aren't my favorite but they almost remind me of Dollshe.

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fuuuuck so of course after going through all the trouble to make my sooah boy, bimong releases a head that i think could also work for my character. the narae60 S. its girly but it has something about the jaw that makes me think it could work as a boy. im also wondering if it might even look better on the body i have too. not sure if i want to blow $150 plus shipping on a whim to find out. i even attempted a mock up. shit sucks when you're trying to find the perfect doll to represent an originul charectur donut steel

>>5868765
I had the same issue, ended up getting Granado's b-mini body which I find perfect. But then I got a too small head from Soul Doll and a too large head from IoS.
Maybe Unoas would be just right...

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>>5869087
We're in this together now anon!
Which face do you like better, Xyle or Zest?
It's a shame there's not more owner pics out there.

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>>5869091
Def Zest for me. I need a narrow eyed smirking type dudeguy face. You'd think that style would be easier to find in this hobby with all the weebs and fujos.
Pic related, Cho should have been perfect but just a tad too big dangit.

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I know a few threads back people were asking about favorite youtubers or social media doll accounts. I've been watching Denali Winds videos nonstop, her dolls are absolutely gorgeous and I find myself super inspired by them.
Who're your favorite youtubers or accounts out there?

>>5869164
Same for me, I love that cold masculine shoujo character face, though I think his mouth makes him look a bit daft. Pic related, Denali Wind's zest boys are gorgeous but I think they look a bit dumb.

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How do people wire their dolls? Are they all connected to a center wire or something? I feel like a complete dumbass because its like nothing changed the couple of times I tried wiring my dolls.

>>5869091
Dang, I wish these boys were SD sized. I really lIke Unoas but I just can't bring myself to enjoy MSDs.

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She can cross her legs! Her legs!! A doll just crossed legs like a human!

http://realartproject.x.fc2.com/blog.html


I just hope the softer vinyl won't make it too easy to stain

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>>5869600
Small step for a man.... a big twist for dollkind!

>>5869600
>>5869604
My goodness, I'm not a fan of that large bust but those dolls are quite adorable.
After looking at that blog though I couldn't own one without feeling like a creep. Do people actually spend hundreds of dollars on small plastic dolls just to jerk off to them?

>>5869730
There sell dolls with small busts (very small even) too, also some dolls that look more regular and less erotic

>Do people actually spend hundreds of dollars on small plastic dolls just to jerk off to them?
I don't think it's primary purpose is jerking off anon, at least people mostly treat them like regular dolls ie. dress them up and take pics and stuff, it just has the added benefits of being better suited for erotic photography with the facial expressions and stuff

I mean, nothing stops you from jerking off to them, but nothing stops you from doing the same with resins and they can get quite lewd too

>>5869091
(not the same anon) I used to only be into Zest, but the more pics I see, the more I like Xyle just as much if not more. I've seen both in Real, and they're both very macho. They're one of the few dolls in the tall mini range that clearly looks male.

>>5869600
So can my Doll Chateaus. Is this not a common thing?

>>5869807
It's a soft vinyl body with a non-jointed torso (excluding the under-the-bust joint). Not in the same category as a resin doll with lots of extra joints all over the place.

>>5869807
None of the vinyl dolls can dot his as far as I know, resins also wouldn't be able to with joints and legs like this. Doll chaetaus are skiny and have different hip joints (what was that rotating leg thing called? it's not exactly a double joint), vinyls typically have a single piece of thigh connected to their butts via a rigid skeleton rather than string

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>>5867458
>This thread reeks of autism
All threads have some sort of autism.
I also really dig the eyes in your pic.

>>5867605
I dunno, usually when you order multiple dolls from them in a short period?

>>5867879
>>5867904
Shit, mang, I've been in this too long and didn't know about this! I just copy/paste runes from listings of things I want and break them down in google by kanji.
I have bookmarks set up on my browser on keywords I make so I don't have to hunt them down again. But Aleado... this is gonna help me out.

>>5868433
>Seriously this hobby becomes a lot more fun when you learn to say 'yeah im not really in to that, but you do you. '
This. It's not like they're going to change because of your ~opinion~

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Does anyone else get envious of other people's skills and talents? I feel like I'm not good at anything. I have tried many faceups, sewing, prop making, photography and although they are not crayon newb level; I feel like I'm not improving at all. I'm stuck at the same skill level as I have started as.
I see many talented people with professional skills and it makes me feel terrible why did I even join this hobby if I'm not even good at one thing after many years of practice.

I know I can just commission people to make things for me but I don't find joy in that.

Sorry if I'm using this thread as my journal diary, but I really needed a place to share my frustration. I have previously shared my problem with my "doll friends" on DoA and Tumblr and they all acted like complete assholes about it.
Since you 4channers have been more helpful and understanding that anyone else in this hobby, I thought of asking for help or motivation from here.

*pic is unrelated

>>5870250

Help you can find on YouTube and in-depth forums, surely not here beyond maybe general tips.

Motivation, kind of pointless to ask for some: either you have it or you don't.

>>5870250

well it takes practice to get good at most things. how do you think those people got so talented? they kept trying and didn't give up. also it might seem like you're not improving but you might actually be.

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>>5870250
I mostly get envious at people who do a lot of stuff with their dolls.
Like constantly taking pictures, constantly getting new stuff for them in, updating their Instagram several times a day, meeting with doll friends on a weekly base, customizing/doing stuff for them nearly daily etc.

I just don't have the time for it, and my need for perfection and interesting pictures makes it impossible for me to just take snapshots.
Same for all the other things.
I just don't get how they manage this, even though I don't have a very stressful life.


Regarding your problem: anon, believe me, you probably do get better.
However, the better you get at doing stuff the better you get at seeing your own mistakes too.
Pic related explains it well.

It's hard to get yourself out of this, but the most important thing is to never, ever stop.
Just keep on working.
Even the good/skilled/praised ones have these phases, and you bet that even getting a dozen "you are so great" comments are often not enough to get that inner voice to shut up.
Keep looking at it like that: better to be critical of your own work and being able to see your mistakes than being one of those people who think they are a gift to others while producing absolute garbage.

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>>5870297
forgot something:
It's difficult to be a "jack of all trades" too, it just leads to the "and master of none" part.
Instead of dipping your toes into everything try to focus on one, maybe two areas.
Put all your energy and practice into that and you will see that you get better.
Too many people skip around because they think they just haven't found their thing to be good at yet, truth is they never find it because they don't keep on working it long enough.

Honestly, I paint face-ups since 2008 and I now start to like some of the stuff I produce, even though I always had a steady flow of customers and people who enjoyed my work.
It's hard but you really just need to keep on going.

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>>5870250
it takes time anon, but even you can get decent after a few years. pic related is one of the first faceups I had ever done on the left, and one of my most recent on the right. Its been about 7-8 years and hundreds of faceups in between them. You just have to keep doing it.

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>>5870486
another example. same doll. first pic is the first faceup I did on it. the second is years later. don't give up anon!

>>5870505
>>5870486
Do you have any more pics of dolls you did early faceups vs. recent faceups on?

These side-by-side shots are really cool.

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>>5870511
thanks anon. i had a really shitty camera back then though, so its hard to find decent old pics, but here's another over-the-years look at one of my dolls' faceups

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>>5870258
>>5870270
>>5870297
>>5870304
>>5870486
>>5870505

Thank you guys for your support and advices. They are very helpful.
Imma post a kawaii eye candy I found as a thank you.

>>5870486
>>5870505
>>5870575
Your faceups are great anon. I really love the gold and teal eye makeup look.

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>>5869730
I'm going to go with yes

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So... uh... Ringdoll's new 1/4 sized body looks worse than Resinsoul.

What the actual fuck. It has such a clunky silhouette and the joints don't have a natural flow. I don't know how to explain it. It looks like they took legs from another doll and put them on another torso. Is it just me?

Like... their Grown bodies (well, male anyway) look pretty okay.

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>>5870980
It looks worse on the boy body too. Those hands, man...
Dollzone did the wide hipped male body way better.
Ringdoll done fucked

>>5870980
It's commentary on childhood obesity. Muffintop and cankles on a little girl.

>>5870980
>that navel

>>5871118
>boy has more feminine body than the girl

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What is you guys' opinion on the DoA triathlon?

>>5872486

i didn't even know there was a DoA triathlon, to be honest.

>>5872486
what the fuck is a doa triathlon
they're not literally running with dolls are they?

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The truth is out there.

>He needs to suit up too.

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>>5871659
dollpamm just released a shota furry fox boy that puts ringdoll's girly boy body to shame. dollpamm is the master of lewd hips and asses, too bad their faces are always so creepy. though the animal ones actually aren't that bad.

>>5873134
oh wow that actually looks nice, never thought i'm gonna like a furry shota
seen their girls before and they're pretty cute

>>5873134
Fuck me that's adorable. Like you said, not a fan of their usual faces, but this one is cute.

>>5873134
That's adorable.
I need a GROWN wide-hipped lewd bitch boy body. Is there another company that makes such bodies?
I hate Dollpamm's Shota line. Those hands are gross and I hate the magnet on their asses and overall the body is way too lumpy for my taste.

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Does anyone know how to improve wrist posing? I have Spiritdoll Proud body and the hands can't pose at all.
I love the aesthetic of the hands but the very poor posing range bother me so much.

>>5873682
Guess you could always mod a female body. I can't think of anyone else who does styling like that for boy bodies.

The only boy dolls I can even think of that aren't boring and undersculpted or super muscly are minifee moe boys and unoa 1.5 boys.

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>>5873174
>>5873183
>>5873682
the rabbit's face is cuter than the fox. also. dat ass.

>>5873716
have you tried switching the S-hooks? sometimes some companies use bigger S-hooks than needed and that limits the posing on the wrist a lot.

>>5873969
I think the fox's face is cuter just based on the fact that his cheeks aren't sagging below his mouth.

Their super-droopy cheeks are the biggest turn-off of some of their otherwise cute sculpts.

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>>5873682
Oh anon, believe me, I need this too. A lot. But I refuse to mod a female body because they always look shitty as fuck. I just wish a company would give me the god damn wide boy hips I want. I have a thing for a nice ass, whatever is female or male, and so I want my male bjd to have nice hips and a nice ass as well....I'm picky.

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>>5873998
ive seen some really good female to male chest mods though. or are you talking about the people who awkwardly attach penises to the body?

>>5874010
not really anon, I'm mostly referring to how awkward the chest, waist and hip ratio looks. Just sanding off the chest is not enough for me. I want a boy with wide hips and a nice ass, but boys don't have super curvy waists, they are mostly flat and linear. Like the example you posted just looks like a female body with a very flat chest, is not a "girly boy body" it is still very much female, as most male bodies with big hips start to take shape around the hips, butt area and thighs. So just fixing a torso wouldn't satisfy my never ending obsession. Like I said, I'm picky. But that is a VERY NICE mod, kudos for sure.

>>5873978
Thank you. I never knew that size of the S hook mattered. I'll try switching S hooks with my other SDs to see how that affects it.

>>5873134
>>5873969
Fuck that's so cute. I'm not into fur shit but the fox boy is too cute to pass up.

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Does anyone else have a grail prop or accessory?

For me it's this adorably rustic Bluefairy suitcase which seems impossible to find, unless I'm an idiot and it's for sale on their site somewhere in the bowels of it, I never see it pop up in the secondhand market but I LOVE tiny bags and luggage.
What's it for you?

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>>5873682
>>5874033
How about the Souldoll Kids N.L body?

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>>5874345
Though not meant for BJDs, my 'grail prop' is a 1/3rd scale Suzuki GSXR-1000. I want a cool motorcycle for my SDs, man.

>>5874408
I feel like the fullbody photos don't look as nice and curvaceous as this photo would lead me to believe.

>>5874010
this looks like a female chest desu
or a guy with mild gyno but it might as well be the same thing
it's a really good result, just, not if you want a male doll unless it's a trap

>>5874931
What a hideous vomit inducing monstrosity is that doll in the picture...

>>5875832
Anon, if you're already ~*~triggered~*~ by that, then this probably isn't the thread for you.

>>5875832
Really, that bad? I thought it looked pretty good, apart from the chin, elbows and hands.

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What's the name of that tiny BJD with the gross nub limbs? I can't find it and it's driving me crazy.

>>5876655
Heisejinyao/HZ Roro

Weird, gross little thing

>>5876670
You are a godsend thank you

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>>5874345
I'd give my left nut to find a cut crystal, three-tiered tea tray in 1/4. Hell, I'd take 1/3 if I could find it and reshell all my characters.
I'd take two-tier, I'd take metal, I don't even care at this point, I just want something to serve petits fours off of during high tea.

>>5876791
If you have prepared your anus, I'd suggest having one custom-made. Best bet would be someone who casts transparent resin and knows how to make moulds.

>>5876791
I am pretty sure this can be very easily made yourself.
With smaller scales miniature makes just take some nice plates and candle holders, make molds of them, cast them and glue them together.

With bigger scales you can easily buy small decoration plates made of metal, maybe glass. Middle part is more difficult, but I doubt there's nothing fitting out there.
Should work well on photos.

>>5876791
It's the wrong size, but here's a tutorial I found to give you an idea of how to do it yourself.

http://www.mysmallobsession.com/miniature-glass-cake-stand-tutorial.html#.V8CpTsROKnN

What the fuck is wrong with me and why do I want the DollPamm bunny so hard? I can't stand fucking furries but that shit is adorable.

Just sold a doll so that I can order the gray one on Sunday. Fuck me.

>>5876655
I remember seeing one of these weird starfish bjds in a facebook sales page once several months ago. I was scrolling down, and actually paused for a second to make sure I wasn't seeing things. You could probably throw it like a ninja star and it would work effectively.

>>5877520
Those bunnies are super adorable!

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>>5876655

>>5877691
Who....who bought that many of them...and then decided that this was a thing that needed to exist

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So, I know how that opinions are pretty divided on people who shell their dolls as OCs, but assuming such a thing exists, does anyone have suggestions for people with good ones?

Like, decent looking dolls, well dressed, kept to a theme, narratives or photo stories that are clean and coherent and not totally overdone, do those even exist in this hobby or am I forever doomed to see nothing but mspaint edits of poorly coordinated yaoi vomit bobobies from Hoarders?

>>5877731
I posted earlier in the thread but I have to repeat Denali Wind. I normally couldn't give a shit less about anyone's OC but I love the "vibe" of hers and they're so well dressed and painted.

>>5877856
I was already following her on flickr lol.

Flickr's where most of the good stuff is from what i've seen, tumblr is a shithole where if its not recast wank its shameless asspats or drama over the middling asshats who think they're internet famous.

It's like, I'm just here for dolls mang

>>5877898
Shit son, I guess I've got nothing for you.
Since you seem to have good taste though, who else do you follow?

>>5877700
I remember once upon a time, back in like 2008 or something, there was a retailer selling the entire set of these little abominations at a pretty steep discount and they came in a metal locking case with foam inserts. I'm pretty sure 90% of the ones out there were bought this way in splits. They were also considered fucking hilarious at the time as this was the peak of lol randum yaoiz and Heisejinyao is a prolific yaoi artist, the dolls depict chibis of the main characters in their yaoi epic or something.

>>5877731
I don't know how much may actually tickle your fancy but if you go on the DoA photo galleries and look for the 'Highlight" prefix that shows up as a gold bar on some posts, those are usually pretty high quality. From there you can find the poster's other threads, maybe their Flickr/Tumblr names as well for more of their work. I do gotta warn you that there's a lot of it that's just one offs of good scenery or costume work, but there's a couple routine posters that have consistent quality.

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Ok what the fuck is Culur doing? this looks actually awful. The white around the lips isnt even in a nice clean line?? I can't believe someone actually paid her to fuck up their doll.

on another note, does anyone know if dollshe mango oriental matches spiritdoll tan?

>>5877731
>>5877898
I went through my Flickr for you and made a quick list, with some information on everyone.

>TatianaB
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tatiana-b/
Does do boys love stuff, but it's actually pretty high quality.
She has a second account for NSFW stuff.
I'm not even into boys love anymore, but if you want to see it well made, check her out.
Dolls are all good looking too.
Rarely talks about the story behind them though.

>kmd666
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kmd666/
> has a wacky group consisting of a couple of guys living together.
The dolls have a very own touch, especially her IOS Bull.
Once in a while adds snippets about their characters.
Best liked when you like alternative looking guys, with tattoos in gritty black/white shots.
Mild hints at boys love sometimes.

>Roterwolkenvog(e)l
https://www.flickr.com/photos/59143923@N08/
Has a big fantasy group, all MSDs.
Dolls are all well customized, even if she does none of that herself.
Usually posts story snippets/character information alongside.
Photos are so, so, but I mostly enjoy the snippets and that her MSDs look different than your usual MNF with etsy clothes.

>Aradolls
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ara_dolls/
Actually found her through Roterwolkenvogel.
Has a chess based story (hence the black/white dolls).
Rarely posts, but usually adds snippets/character explanations and has a journal wiki for more explanation too (can't find the link for that right now).
Unfortunately quite a chunk of commission stuff inbetween too.

>DollStars/Nix de Pano
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nixblack/
Has boys love stuff too, but it's more the mild shonen-ai type.
The stories are pretty cheesy, but I like the way she takes pictures and her photostories are nice.
Good when you want some fluff.
Her Flickr isn't very active though, her Instagram is better for that kind of stuff (and LJ, when she posts longer stories):
https://www.instagram.com/nixdepano/

more in next post

>>5877731
godtypes on instagram is pretty interesting. they have well though out characters and interesting stories to go along with them. Definitely worth a look at least.

>>5878223
second part

>Luthigern
https://www.flickr.com/photos/94460912@N07/
Have to admit I mostly follow her for her stories of Küllike and his grandfather:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/94460912@N07/albums/72157633120382939
There aren't many older looking dolls, but she nailed it with the grandfather, and the (text-less) stories are cute.

>Natsumi
https://www.flickr.com/photos/-natsumi-/
I love, love, love her settings.
She's really good at letting her dolls look like they actually live in a flat.
Nice realism.

>AnMoony
https://www.flickr.com/photos/92890142@N03/
Her dolls are all pretty heavily painted, but they have interesting backstories.
Unfortunately lots of commission photos inbetween.
Her Instagram is worth a look too, since she posts more own stuff there:
https://www.instagram.com/beloveda/

>Propertyoftheuchiha
https://www.flickr.com/photos/propertyoftheuchiha/
She usually takes pictures with Nix de Pano/Dollstars (their stories are connected).
Same applies with her stuff, just that you get lots of commission photos inbetween too.

Other nice ones:
Renegade Trigger, Turbow, Sarqq&Sherimi.
Back then I would have said Olesya too, but since she got that Norman Reedus doll she basically takes only pictures of that one...which can get a little creepy sometimes.

Is there something specific you are looking for, aesthetically?
Like mostly male/female, extreme themes, mindless fluff, realism, fantasy?
That list was just a quick look at my feed and the most recent uploads, can maybe find more if I dig a little deeper.

Is it possible to make money on faceup comissions or does it just get the costs back?

>>5878273
It really depends on how much you're charging vs. how much your materials cost. Realistically pastels and paint will last for quite a while so it's really just the sealant, eyelashes and whatever other little embellishments you're using so, like I said, it really depends.

>>5878273
Other anon is correct, materials for face-ups/painting dolls can last you a looong time.
I started in 2008.
The basic skintone pastels I bought back then are still going strong, and with acrylics I threw away my old ones at point (but still had plenty left) because I wanted to switch to a better type.
Nowadays I use the same paint I use for airbrushing too.
There are two things you will need to rebuy on a regular base, namely sealant and brushes (if you paint with acrylics).

Making a face-up mostly costs time.
If you deduct the small costs on materials you are easily left with at least 95% work costs.
However, even if that's the case you still rarely get to pay yourself more than a few bucks per hour.
Not to mention the health issues (due the sealant, if you are lazy/cheap and don't use a respirator) and the fact how many face-ups you need to paint to get decent.

I ask 50 Euro for a standard face-up, but I have a pretty detailed blushing style and use acrylics to paint.
It's not really worth it, since I still paint roughly 10 hours on one face (longer if it got a beard or similar).

A good way to get your money back is to be able to offer something nobody else does locally.
I make the most money with airbrushing and scarring, especially airbrushing.
Nobody in my country offers airbrush commissions, so I can basically ask what I want and people still happily agree.
Same for the scarring.
The airbrush has paid off itself after four commissions already.
It's a lot faster than painting a face-up too.
Materials cost a lot more though, but I can live with that considering I can airbrush a pair of horns in like 20 minutes.

So, you kinda do get your money back if you ask enough, at least if you just look at the costs of your materials.
However, cost on time and health is high, and I personally never felt I got enough for that.

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>>5877731
Here's a few of the folks whose stuff I like who haven't already been mentioned
>Illusionwaltz
>Lightlybattered/Lightlytattered (comfy photostories, meh dolls.)
>Bluoxyde

>>5878369
Considering anon just wanted something that isn't the usual Tumblr mediocre stuff I reaaaally wouldn't call lightlybattered's dolls 'meh'.
She mostly has Volks/Unoa and they are all well painted and dressed.

>>5878406
You're right, poor word choice. (English isn't my mother language, my bad) I didn't mean that they were underwhelming or anything, just not too out of the ordinary (as far as nicer dolls go) if that makes sense?

>>5878221
oh my god that really is awful

>>5878221
Haha. It's like she's trying to copy Kayke.

>>5878221
Hm, the Dollshe fresh skin colors are pretty translucent, while the Spiritdoll tan is mostly opaque.
So even if they would match in color it would still look weird.

>>5878221
>Ok what the fuck is Culur doing?

If it's a commission then she's doing what the client wants.

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>>5878741
I, uh, am pretty sure the customer didn't say: "you know, that thick white line you started painting on the upper lip/philtrum? Yeah, would be great if you could make it super messy.
Like, worse than usual.
If you want, totally mess up the left side and let it look like you slipped".

I mean, some designs just look bad because the design is bad.
But the design is fugly (maybe not her fault) AND the execution messy.
The latter can't be excused.

>>5878741
Anon is talking about the shitty highlights and pencil work, don't try to be a smartass. The lips are not even done right either and have big gaps in the color, shitty work is shitty regardless of the color scheme and the what the person wanted.

>>5878221
cum stained lips

>>5878499
Hmm. I'm trying to hybrid a dollshe Amanda head onto a spiritdoll proud girl body in tan, so would you recommend I just go for color matching?

>>5878221
it looks like she wanted to make those areas shimmery/metallic but rather than be patient and layer the shimmer powder through multiple layers, she just mixed it with the gloss and smeared it on, resulting in that gross thick uneven mess that isnt even shimmery anymore because theres no smooth even surface to catch the light

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Yay my Hujoo Baby Is came!!

She's my first BJD, just playing around with what she can wear here. It's not even a real wig just a strip of fabric fur.

Glad to find out she can wear MH/EAH/ and Bratz stuff!

Just need shoes for her, though I can squeeze her feet into Kelly shoes if they're made of rubber.

Just waiting on her eyes and wig to arrive!

Going to be making some clothes for her!

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Leggings and sweater I made her!

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>>5879534
>>5879536
Don't do this to us. We did nothing to you. Probably.

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Be gentle its my first time, but what do you think of this faceup? Ive been really practicing on getting them to look cleaner and more realistic but I know I still have a long way to go (i.e. grainy pencil) but what do you think? any concrit?

>>5879851

i think it looks good, especially since you're still starting out and still practicing. i've seen a lot worse!

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>>5879851
I can't really see the eyebrows, but it seems like they are just blushing, no hair?
Keep in mind that an eyebrow consists of dozens of little hair and isn't just one solid blob.

Else, hmm.
It's a little weird that you didn't blush some of the most important spots to create depth.
The nose is completely bare, make sure to blush the sides going to the eyes, the nostrils and the area next to the nostrils.
Philtrum is also bare.
Look how other artists blush those areas.
The spot underneath the lower lip should be blushed a little too.

How do you make the scars?
They lack that slight translucent look scars tend to have and look pretty opaque.

Else it's what you already mentioned, you need to get cleaner with the lashes.
There are some who just seem to float towards the cheeks.
Make sure to slowly, indivdually paint each lash, seal, and then darken the bases again.

It's clear you put thought and care into this, now you need to work towards creating more depth and cleanliness.
Really check out some artists on Flickr and pick out the ones that are close to what you'd like to achieve someday.
It really helped me to understand a few things (like how and where to blush).

>>5879222
I don't know if Spiritdoll uses different resin for such requests.
As said, the Dollshe fresh skin types are translucent, while Spiritdoll is opaque.
Honestly doubt that Spiritdoll has a similar type of resin at hand to not only match the color but also the look of the resin.

It's probably easier to take one of the pure skin colors from Dollshe, since those are opaque, ooor pick a company who does not only custom skintones but also has translucent resin in their line-up.

>>5879879
I did draw in some hairs over the blushed area for his eyebrows but im still working on learning how to correctly use paint to get the look of those hairs just right, and trying to avoid the andreja/culur style of just penciling in some white lines to make it look like they're there.

For this particular faceup I really wanted to emphasize the area under the eyes so I kinda skipped blushing around the other spots you mentioned, but looking back at it I should have at least done a little.

I appreciate your honest critique though! thanks for not being too hard on me and I will keep improving and show you guys again later!!

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>>5879894

Here is a kind of idea of the progress I have already made. The left side is the VERY FIRST faceup I did (about 2 years ago) and the right is one I did about a month ago or so?

>>5879536
>>5879534
is that a recast?

>>5879943
I doubt Hujoo recasts even exist.

No, it's made of ABS and thus can be bought for dirty cheap.
Hence the plastic look and why they are so popular with the starting crowd who can't afford a resin BJD.

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>>5879534
I am honestly not sure if you pulled that picture from the Tumblr it came from or if it's the owner posting it.

If it's the latter, why the fuck would you post that here.
Judging from your posts this thread really isn't the place for you.

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>>5879534
>>5879536
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>5879900
Nice work anon, you've come a long way.

Wow ok rude

No Hujoo's are not recast they're only $20

Aaaand perfect for people joining the hobby to see if BJD are their thing.

But ooohk.

I won't "shitpost" wtf

Ykno y'all acting like elitist is what makes people go to recasts right??

They don't want to be associated with your kind

>>5879851
>>5879900
pretty good anon but i really suggest, as intimidating as it may seem, to stop using watercolor pencils to draw in hairs and try with just acrylic and brushes. you will never get smooth, non grainy lines with pencils, and no matter how much you sharpen it, you will never get your lines as thin or tapered as you can with a brush.

just get some thin cheap acrylics (i suggest delta ceramcoat, the small little $2 bottles you can buy at places like michaels if you're in the US) the most important thing is the brush. i mentioned them before but i use loew cornell 20/0 script liner brushes, which you can get a discountartistbrush.com which has free shipping no matter the amount of your order if you're in the US. i've bought my brushes from them several times and its great.

if you become dependent on pencils you'll never be able to get away from them

>>5880213
i hope this is more bait/trolling but, its not just that your doll is cheap. this is a hobby based around beauty. beautiful dolls, beautiful clothes, beautiful hair, beautiful pictures. to come here with an unpainted, eyeless doll in frayed, garish child's toy looking clothes, with crappy flash photography, just laying there on the floor/couch and expect praise / good comments is just plain retarded.

>>5880213
Glad your doll arrived, Anon! Congrats!

As exciting as it can be to share your doll with others, 4chan isn't the best place for that.

The type of post you're making belongs more on Tumblr (which, if I've done my research correctly, you've already put them there as well) or Instagram. /BJD/ isn't really a "look at my cute new dolly!" kind of place, especially if your doll isn't presented at a professional standard.

Also, in a place where there's no attached usernames, you can bet your life that people aren't going to be all nice and warm and fuzzy like they would if you knew who they were.

Shitty views and a blatant disrespect for artists is what makes people go to recasts. No amount of positively encouraging people to buy legit is going to stop someone from buying a recast if they think their desire for an expensive toy is more important than supporting the artist who originally made it.

Plus, it's ludicrous to look at 4chan users and go, "Wow, they're pro-artist and they're so MEAN, I should buy a recast so I'm not like them!" If your mindset is that you shouldn't buy something that "mean" people buy, even if it means doing the right thing instead of stealing, you need to reevaluate yourself because you're acting like a child.

>>5880213
No, people get recasts because they are unwilling to pay the proper price.
There is no other reason, and all other reasons they come up with are pure bullshit.
What kind of backwards logic is that anyway?
"People are mean to me because my doll looks like shit, now I buy a recast to show 'em!" or what?

I honestly get the feeling you have no clue what kind of place this here is.
If you want to be praised for owning a shit looking doll post on Facebook, but even here we have at least small standards.
Else I agree with >>5880230, come back when your doll doesn't look like shit and nobody cares it's just a Hujoo.
Now you just come across like one of dozen newbies who thinks they are special for owning a doll.

Lol don't worry anon with the Hujoo baby this community is disgustingly toxic.

I own nothing but recasts and post them all the time on DOA, and no one has caught on yet.

As long as your doll has a good face up and cute clothes no one will know the difference unless they ask to see your doll nude.

Honestly I hope I'm helping with destroying this community because they're so retarded.

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>>5880637
Aw, you sure showed 'em!
I am sure those people are pretty crushed that you only own cheap bootlegs and fear that you will tear down the community with them.

>>5880637
Sure, you can get away with it for a while. But if you ever want to do anything serious with other doll collectors, like sell clothing, faceups, props, etc, then it becomes a problem. People can and will dig up the dirt eventually and it's not pretty when it happens.

Reformed recast owner here. I'm glad I got out when I did, because if you actually want to participate in the really fun things it sucks to have that hanging over your head. I don't regret giving it up even a little bit. I pay more, but I definitely enjoy them more now too, and I never have to worry about them causing drama.

>>5880776
>I have over 100+ sales on DOA alone.
>Go to doll meets all the time, people comment on my Flickr about how much they love my dolls.
>No one knows. No one's going to find out, unless they undress my dolls, and even then it's hard to spot the difference from my Fairyland recast from the original.
>But, go on. Keep telling yourselves your $500 dolls are better than my $100, because honestly no one can tell the difference. Not even DOA. :)

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>>5880915
>my ResinSoul recast
im a gigglin good one anon

>>5880920
>>5880637
There's something I honestly don't get about people like you.

You like to go on about how the comunity is toxic/retarded.
In your eyes the recast is worth the same as a legit, and you don't care that all your dolls are bootlegs.

You still keep it a secret that you own recasts.
You still try very hard to be a part of the community you despise so much, with people who do care whether a doll is a recast or not.
You still got to meets.
And you still want praise from people who do not share your opinion and only give you praise because they think you own a legit.

Why?
And don't say "because I don't want any drama".
You could easily stick to recast communities, there are enough people who openly own recasts who are never bothered by anyone.
The recast community is nowadays big enough that you don't even have to bother with legit only communities anymore.

What is it?
Do you truly don't mind that you only own recasts?
If yes, why do you lie to everyone and try so hard to be part of a community you don't even like?

>>5879851
The eyelashes need work. Less shakey lines, tapered at the end, more natural direction. Personally, I would use a slightly lighter color to do the lashes in, or at least use more retarder to make them seem lighter. Even dark haired people don't have lower lashes that stark.

Blushing is on point, though. Jelly of your lips.

>>5881035
Not the same anon, but have you seen the recast community? It's flooded with young, poor, tasteless hacks who slap a pair of stretch leggings and a fur wig on a doll and call it done.

In the legit community, you have 80% of the community with shitty ResinSouls, trend copiers, and $600 dolls dressed in sock dresses and ducktape. There's maybe 15% of the community with nice looking dolls. Maybe 5% that do something interesting.

In the recast community, there are 0 interesting, creative, worthwhile artists, because the pool of BJD(recast and legit) hobbyists worth watching is so shallow, that they can't be separated into recast and legit. It cuts the percentage down to virtually 0 in both sides.

So if all the interesting parts of the hobby are found on the legit side, what's left in the recast side? BJD is the community. The hobby is too small to say recast-owners should go be a separate community.

To try and change the topic into a more pleasant one, I'm just starting to get into dolls, but I noticed a couple makers I was looking at had halloween events or dolls last year. I know it's still early, but are there ever pre-release or preview pics, or is it more just a 'keep an eye on the store and they'll pop up eventually' situation?

>>5881137
The earliest "pre-release" or "preview" you will get is about 2 months to 1 year ahead of time.

Generally Volks, Iplehouse will release pictures about 2-3 months ahead of a new release.

The Volks dollfie dream collaboration pre-orders will be maybe a year ahead of release date.

>>5880637
> thinks they are some sort of bad ass who's going to take down the toxic 4chan /bjd/ general community
nigga please. you are just pissing in the ocean, you're not going to effect or accomplish a damn thing. keep your crusades to tumblr.

>>5881137
while what >>5881176 said about volks is true, other companies tend to release preview or teaser pics only a week or two ahead of the sales date. some companies, particularly fairyland, if they are giving away free event items, may not even show what they look like until AFTER the event has already started.

also keep in mind that when companies do something like a halloween release, you won't get your doll until months later, well after the holiday the event was centered around

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Literally what the fuck weeb ass shit Culur. Who the fuck paid for this.

>>5881245
aside from the milk stache, this is one of the less fucked up faces she's done. what does the writing mean? or do you not know and you are just triggered by anything "weeb"

>>5881266
It's supposed to be "ai"/love, but it looks like a fucking child wrote it.

>>5881245
I hate the way she does eyebrows.

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>>5859855
>looking to get a head with a similar mouth as in OP
>only ones that pop up on YJA are unfinished and rough

Sadly they've expired so I cant post pics of them but I found THIS delight instead.

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>>5880920
Anon is talking about actually doing clothing and selling or the like, as recast dolls have smaller measurements and if you become actually popular people always puts two and two together. That's how Kleincrew and monstrodesigns were first suspected of owning recast and they were eventually found out.

Also you own fairyland the majority of the fairyland owners have enough dead braincells not to notice nor care. It's like playing hide and seek with 2 year olds and then feeling proud when they can't find you behind the curtains.

>>5881266
Have to agree, this has to be one of the best she has done besides the shaky writing. At least she shows she can try sometimes, it probably belongs to someone she knows.

>>5881035

Because I think it's fucking hilarious how "anti-recast" people can be, even go as far as to unfriend someone just because they have a recast??

But then they fawn all over mine??

It's HILARIOUS

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>>5862861
>>5863071
Jesus christ, what the fuck

They all look like ayys

jesus christ

>that second video
>the dollshow
>clownbaby

>>5881201

Lol bitch no ones talking about 4chan's community, I'm talking about the BJD community in general

>>5881647
I don't dislike dolls because they're recast, I dislike the people who buy them. I can still like how a recast doll looks but not want to be friends with someone who buys them due to a moral stand point I have.

What eyelashes do you guys usually use? For how bluh Culur's faceups are, she uses some really quality eyelashes.

I have tried dollar store lashes, mystery ebay lashes, Dollmore 'totes not dollar store lashes marked up 500%' lashes, and lashes that cost 7 bucks a pop at cosmetic shops. And I can still never get them to look right.

>>5881672

Oh ya. Cause it's so "immoral" to buy a recast doll. Lol so the new debate is t that recasts are bad, but the people who purchase them? Lol ok.

You need to get your morals in check, sweaty.

>>5881765

Are you cutting the eyelashes at the base of the lash or the tip of the lash??

You're going to want to use the tips of the eyelash if you want a more natural look, and not the base.

>>5881778
I've heard to cut them at the base, and have tried it, but I've never been able to keep the lashes remotely together on a table and let alone while putting them into a head. If you have a method that works, I'd love to hear it.

When I commission faceups with lashes, the artists have always placed them in the head with the original plastic base of the lash intact, so it's been throwing me for a huge loop.

Why are there no miniature robot/alien BJD's? It's literally all I want ;_;

>>5881789

Try scotch tape. The opaque kind that doesn't really hold anything together except paper.

That should keep all your lashes in one place.

>>5881774
>Cause it's so "immoral" to buy a recast dol
I think it is, yes. I don't think it's morally justifiable to support theft.

>Lol so the new debate is t that recasts are bad, but the people who purchase them?
Hardly a debate, just my personal opinion. I don't see the point about getting angry at a doll, it's an inanimate object.

>getting this salty because someone disagrees with you.

>>5881765
honestly, one tip I have for you is to learn how to put eyelashes on your own eye first so you can figure out how they work. Also Andreja/Nicolle's dreams has a video on how to put the lashes in here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Gc_LT9thg

>>5881647
they unfriend recast owners like you because they are dishonest. they hide that they own recasts, lie about it, and are all secretly bitter, resentful and hateful of legit owners, just like you. no one wants to be friends with someone who, under their fake smiles, actually thinks you're a moron and that they're better than you because they're good liars. gloating about how you're getting away with breaking rules just proves you're a shit person.

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>>5880637
I've only been in this community for about a year now. (and actually 4chan helped me not buy a recast as my first BJD - when I didn't know anything. thanks guys!)
But I can say I respect it more than you- and I understand to appreciate BJD's as artwork.
You disgust me troll.

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>>5881579
Kek
Yeah, it's sometimes hard to find the right one.

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>>5881793
Batchix made some cute bots.
There's also the Souldoll Souloids.

None of them are like Dabaidi-tier cute, though.

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>>5863598
>>5864965

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>>5882425
>>5864986

>>5882478
#dollierelationshipgoals

>>5881111
You can enjoy well dressed and customized dolls on the legit side without being a cunt about it.
You don't need to post your recast in legit only places, don't need to lie to others, don't need to promote recasts, don't need to break any rules and so on.
You can just hop on Flickr, type in a doll sculpt and look at pretty pictures.

Heck, you can even be part of the community, just without posting your dolls/bringing them along to places they don't belong.
You decided to went down that path, so live with it.

>>5881774
Actually that was always a very big reason why people are against them.
You really thought people only dislike recasts due to their quality?
A big argument was always that it's a dick move to steal from artists.
Lots of BJD companies are pretty small.
For example, Granado was until this year two people, Crocus the sculptor and Ikaru the Q&A person.
5th Motif is just one person.
Lots of the European artists are also just one person each.

Not to mention that since recasts are so popular the community has changed a lot.
It got a lot less safe to shop around, selling got harder, there is more dishonesty, less trust etc.
I really, really miss the "old" times and how the hobby was back when I started in 2008.
It's been ~4 years now since recasts became widely available and it truly sucks.
It's honestly not worth it, just so that a few idiots can get their fugly Minifee for cheap.