BJD/Asian Doll Thread: Baka Shitposters Edition

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>>5884261
So... what happened last thread?

>Marketplace gripes

>Office-chan gets a new slave

>Reedusdoll porn getting deleted again (next time just link it, anon)

>Faceup tips and critique. Some love the watercolor pencils, some think they are products of satan's asshole. But seriously, try acrylics.

>Ayy, stop with the reborns already. Vintage vinyl dolls would have better luck in the fashion doll thread unless they're Asian.

>DollPamm's new dolls are bringing out many anons' furry fantasies

>A saintly anon brings up Aleado to search for dolls on Y!JA:
>http://auc.aleado.com//yahoo/25864-catlist.html

>What are everyone's favorite youtubers/non-shit photographers with interesting dolls?

>Ringdoll wtf are you doing

>Culur wtf are you doing

>Hujoo shitposting that somehow devolved into another recast debate

Again, Thunderbird Fantasy is puppets. We don't know how to make them or where to buy them, despite having somewhat similar aesthetics to BJD.

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>>5865135
>Office-chan gets a new slave

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>>5884383
Hah. Those shorts would be perfect for Sailor Stars bottoms. Is that the SD16 body on Office-chan? Kudos for making it look good if it is.
>though I might be biased because it's Office-chan

>>5884456
It is the default SD16 body. It was a real squeeze to fit into that outfit. Damage to the outfit was a definite possibility.

>>5882478
Office-chan is amazing and wonderful and I like her owner a lot but please, please, please take out the basting from those hakama, they are meant to keep the pleats in place during shipping and it makes them look hella weird on

>>5884467
Yes. I plan to lol

Why is Andreja so mad famous? Her work is average at best and her personality in her videos is boring.

>>5884383
We all knew it was going to happen.

Hi, I'm new and I'm very interested in making a BJD. I see so many cute dolls and it really inspires me.
My only problem is, I don't know what supplies are best and what I'll need.
Presently I am working on my blueprint to work off of.

>>5884487
google that shit. and read.

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>>5884483
Probably her pretty pastel layouts and the hypnotic music. She was also one of the first to make decently formatted faceup progress videos/tutorials.

>>5884487
Woo boy, here we go. I would follow a bunch of bjd sculptors to take notes on their troubles and tips.
I haven't done it myself, since I can barely do fixes to repair cracks in dolls, but there are a variety of ways to do it.
Remember to work with a sturdy material (which means clays like Sculpy are garbage) and take your time to prime and sand down lumps when you are finally happy with it.
Don't be like Kayke.

It seriously takes a lot of time, and if you haven't handled a BJD before, it's going to be hard. to figure out why many sculptors do some of the things they do.

>>5884487
also. if this is a 'I want a doll, but I think I can make one for cheaper' you're in for a big surprise.

>>5884564
Oh no! I don't believe it's going to be cheap at all!
I just thought making a BJD would be fun and a good way to experiment with sculpting in my leisure time.
>>5884500
Thank you! I will take this advice to heart.

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Happy birthday, MIKU. :D

>>5884581
Yep, the only way to do this is as a labor of love. I've been working on mine for a few years now, granted a lot of that is just coping with the learning curve and the fact I ended up trying to sculpt 8 at once.

Materials vary and depend a bit on scale. For my biggest ones I used some paper mache clay for rough sculpting and la doll premiere clay for finer details. A two part sculpting epoxy like Magic Sculpt or Aves Apoxie sculpt are pricey and the curing time/dry time can take a bit but they're very strong and take fine detail well.

A lot of it depends on your process and your particular balance of additive and reductive sculpting, I do most of my detailing from carving after the material is dry and do my additive layers for general bulk, but some people sculpt everything perfect the first time. I hope I still have that link somewhere of the pros and cons of the most popular clays. You generally need to sand to about 200 grit.

>>5884621
Here's the link
http://www.bjd-artists.com/entry.php?159-Clays

>>5884621
How hard do you think it would it be to just make an msd sized head?
I'm starting to think of going that route because there's nothing already released that is "perfect" in my eyes except maybe a limited head that assholes are trying to resell for $400+.
I'd sooner spend that much trying to learn to make one I like.

>>5884500
Would a 2 part clay like Apoxie work? Different anon, but I can't believe I've never considered trying to sculpt a doll before with how much custom work I do with other toys. Granted, the most intensive thing I've done is make a custom Nendoroid, so I'm sure it will look like garbage, but it still could be fun.

>>5884934
You will probably spend more than $400 making a head that can be used with a doll well. Between materials, time, and primer, then having it cast or casting it yourself. I'm probably $1000+ in this hole

>>5884934
>>5884946
Yes to both, it's actually easier/preferred to go that route.

Heads are simpler because you only need to fit a few "joints".

According to some people Apoxie is the best because of the ease of layering and the hardness of the finished product. I personally prefer magic sculpt which is a very similar product that cures faster.

>>5885169
Assuming that they're casting it.I thought they were just looking to sculpt a one off which is considerably less demanding. Like for sure if someone is doing a production of a product line it's a steep investment, but for just a single head it only costs the clay, tools and paints.

>>5884946

If you plan to never cast the doll and want to be able to play with the original I would use aves apoxie sculpt. It can be a bit harder to work with than paper clay but it cures concrete hard and you can drill and sand it to your hearts conten .

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>>5884483
I don't understand this myself anon. The tutorials she does are not really good at all either, if you have basic knowledge in bjds then you know how much information she keeps out of her tutorials but for a newbie that knows no better they think she is telling them the whole process (which leads to 383938 questions in boards about how "it isn't working"). She tries to simplify everything which I don't really think it works very well when it comes to bjd, making things look easy doesn't work when you don't give all the info, considering most of the stuff you do in the hobby is not really a walk in the park, specially faceups and wigs. Not to mention her style for me is cute but generic fairyland owner crap.

I think what she has going on is that her videos are nicely edited and she doesn't look like a complete slob, but to be quite honest I think she is boring and fake AF, if you follow her instagram you can see how much she tries to fish for nice comments, and compliments, and how very narcissistic she actually is deep down, always talking about how her co-workers compliment her non-stop on her looks and personality. It got to the point in which I had to unfollow her because it was eye-roll worthy.

Also as a person with a heavy accent it annoys me how much she fakes hers. If you watch her Japan trip videos her accent disappears almost completely, but then when she does normal videos it magically comes back.

And just like people blames elfgutz for bringing a bunch of tards to the hobby, I blame her for bringing all the fairyland brain dead owners that make you wanna die with their basic as shit questions.

>>5884601
post her in her birthday suit to celebrate!!! :D

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>>5885536
I agree with everything you said, anon. Her tutorials are complete ass. She uses pencils for her work which makes me cringe. And her fake ass accent and behaviour is on the same level of Venus Angelic and Marzia.
I also hate how she brought the 12 year old fairyland fags in the hobby.

>>5884483
>>5884500
>>5885536

Also I blame her for the horrible trend of those stupid eyebrows that are just thick blocks of colour with white lines on top.
She used to do decently haired eyebrows, but once she gained popularity, whoop suddenly she's just doing whatever is easy to gain money, not what actually looks good.
And now every basic ass faceup artist does those.
And I detest them.

>>5884383
Holy shit, I am enjoying the direction this is going. keep it up anon!

Does anyone know if the Fairyland Lunnula was a limited thing? Or was it just the fullset?

Also I have seen a few Lunnula dolls in tan, do you know if she was color matched or did they actually release her with the tan option?
I have looked around and asked a few different places but haven't been able to find a solid answer.

>>5885536
Is she the one that started this bullshit Fairyland trend? My god, am I sick and tired of motherfucking Fairyland dolls.


I've been thinking about taking time off from DoA and only coming back once a week to bump my sales posts. I'm a very active member, but with the way people have been acting, it's just making me depressed.

One of the "high noon" themed photography contest winners this year was a photo of a Fairyland doll smoking a joint, titled "Getting High Noon." Seriously? I'm disappointed with the winners chosen in other contests as well. It's just completely unfair and seems to be all based on someone's popularity.

Same goes for the entire forum, really. It's just turned in to a popularity contest, IMO, and I don't want to compete. Especially since I don't have an overpriced yet average looking Fairyland doll.

Sorry for gushing, anons. DoA is one of my favorite places and I hate what it's become.

>>5885995
I gave up on DoA long ago. The whole discussion threads have become circle jerk groups between popular members while spamming their hideous dolls.

>>5886092
Where do you go for doll shit, though?

I've been thinking of making a Flickr, but it's not really as social as other websites. Don't get me wrong, I love pretty doll pictures, but I want to talk to people, too.

>>5884483
>>5884500
>>5885536
>>5885607

I'm guilty of watching them. They're well filmed, and she doesn't talk through the whole thing. Any video suggestions for for a budding face-up artist? also why no pencils?

>>5884261
Does anyone know any DD customizers that speak English and take commissions? Ive had no luck finding what I'm looking for.

>>5885995
Right now the tumblr retard crowd has it the hots for weed smoking owners, because that matters, right? So honestly I'm not surprised.

>>5886098
Sorry bro Can't help with that. I don't communicate with other dolly people. I just keep my dolls to myself.

I noticed that in almost every platform whether it's DoA, Youtube, Instagram, and Tumblr there are groups of popular people who tag and whore each other out all the time and tough shit if you're not popular.
If you want to talk to dolly people I suppose youtube has a less aggressive community. Just suck up to their ring leader Denali Wind and everyone else with suck your dick in return.

>>5886118
To be fair this can be said about any social media website. Long as you suck it up long enough to the higher ups, you can always have smooth sailing. I think the best way to make bjd friends is to find the people with dolls you like and pretty much start a conversation with them, or constantly comment on their stuff. You can't wait for people to come to you when you are a nobody, you kinda gotta work for it.

>>5886101
Pencils leave very grainy lines, alas they are not as smooth as brushes. Pencils are kinda the kiddy wheels in faceups, starting with them is great to get a feeling for strokes and faceups, specially if you know nothing about paints but sticking to them means making no progress at all. It's the equivalent of an artists that only uses sai pain tool because is easy instead of moving to photoshop because is more professional and gives better results. In other words don't be lazy if you want to get better, if you are okay with being average that's cool but for other artists you are pretty much just not trying much.

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this was one of my first dolls (brownie doll) do I have shit taste?

>>5884261
shit, does anyone have the op pic from a thread wayyyy back that ad a doll (pretty sure DD) posed with a huge ice ream? a lot of people thought it looks like a phallus.

>>5886148
Look pretty kawaii desu to me. I just hate the synthetic wig I rather it have natural fibers but overall I think it's pretty sugoi.

>>5886146
ohhh, ok. good thing I only bought the cheap watercolor pencils then. I'm more experienced with acrylics. all the face-up videos I watch use pencils.

>>5886158
I agree with the other anon. I used to be a huge pencil fan until I tried acrylics. Even my shakiest paint lines still looked better than the faded grainy ass pencil lines.
Especially if you use airbrush system for your sealant, then it makes the pencil's grainyness much worse.
Now I'm obssessed with acrylics and won't ever go back to pencils.

>>5886162
makes sense, especially since you have almost complete control of color/transparency/layering. I'm watching the pencil videos saying 'gotta go over this a million times to get white' and I'm like 'fuck that'

>>5886114
Maybe ask on /jp/

>>5886146
>sai pain tool

>>5884934
>>5885178
If you're just doing a head, sculpt in whatever medium, but you can then make a silicone mold of it and use an at-home/hobby resin to cast the one-off. It'd be price prohibitive for a full doll, but for an MSD head, it'd work.

>>5886148
She a cute, but she looks a little plain. If she were my doll, I'd either blush the hands/nails/elbows/knees/feet or maybe put a bracelet and socks/sandals on her.

>>5884483
She was the first to make decent videos, and till now hers are probably still the most professional looking.
I don't like her work and dislike the BJD Youtube community, but even I like to look at her Face-Up Stories videos once in a while.
Music is pleasant, she doesn't talk, it doesn't look too bad, video quality is good.

However, like other anon said she's pretty guilty of pulling in newbies and creating a style that is copied by a lot of pencil using people.
Another anon is correct when they say pencils used to be "first tries" materials till you started working with acrylics.
Nowadays you have lots of artists who never stop using them, and lots of them copy Andreja down to every detail because they saw how popular she got with it.
Guess why Culur did it, or Rakeru Sensei.
It's sad, because the skilled artists that use acrylics tend to stop taking commissions more and more...and there are barely any new artists to take their place.

I can't say much about her character, but I always had the feeling she's one of those "too perfect" people.
Good looking, nice flat, nice boyfriend, nice job, lots of fans, gorgeous pet etc., there seems to be nothing ugly about her and her life.
Seems weird after a while.

>>5885818
It's pretty much her fault, yeah.
I also dislike them, because they are not only lazy as fuck but also look stupid.

I always laugh when someone starts painting face-ups like her and then goes "why do my lines look so grainy? Andreja's look so perfect!"...bitch, did you ever see a close-up of her work?
I wiped some of her face-ups and they are super grainy.
Check the Flickr group of her works, some people uploaded close-ups of her dolls with huge files, you can see how grainy they are.
They only appear smooth because she rarely posts really close pictures.

>>5885995
I'm glad I skipped the contests this year, especially the photography one makes me mad.
First price is a boring, low effort snapshot.
Second price is low quality (as in, grainy) and a little boring...but at least more effort.
The third price is hurrdurr drugs, amirite...but at least a little more interesting looking.
However, all of the submissions were pretty boring and/or not really fitting the theme this year.

I don't think popular people won though.
Because, uh, they didn't even send something in.
Most of the popular ones probably won one of the contests already and thus don't compete anymore (or, well, have no interest).
Which sucks.
I agree there should be a short ban, to give others a chance, but forever?

The face-up contest is a little better (first place is pretty much whom I expected to win, and it fits both the theme and is well made), and I like the new default icons.
Now to see who wins the triathlon.

I think overall DoA is a little less about popularity than Instagram and Tumblr for example.
DoA is just way too big and unlike every other websites I can't really name a few truly popular people (not counting infamous ones) who are known by the majority of members.
Instead you have small groups with regular posters, none of them are popular outside of that circle.

On Instagram you have people with shit looking dolls and shitty personalities who basically drown in followers, same for Tumblr.
Usually their fans aren't even doll collectors.
They are the ones you have to suck up to, since they are the ones with batshit insane fans.

On Flickr most people are pretty mellow and chill, even the popular ones.
But there's less interaction.

Agree with >>5886135 though.
Best way to get well known/have doll friends is to have nice looking dolls and comment on people who have the same taste.
Show interest in their stuff and sooner or later they will have interest in yours too.

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>>5886118
To add to this, just aim to get the people that you want to be friends with. You'll be surprised how much of a pain in the ass it is to have followers in some of those platforms. If your dolls are nice then chances are a lot of people will follow you, specially in tumblr and instagram, but reality is that is a pain in the ass. I wish I had sticked to having only the close friends I have made in IG and just stopped with my dolls then, after you get above the 1k-2k followers and more, it is just a huge pain in the ass (since that's the average number for bjd followers that are people that ACTUALLY own bjd). Chances are a few of your pics are always going to pop in random feeds and then you have all of this unwanted attention from people you don't know or care to be friends with, it might sound like a bitch thing to say but is the truth. Those groups of popular people, that a lot of people seem to hate were friends before they even got popular or found each others dolls and loved them, but it seems like people get super salty and jealous when they don't get the same amount of attention.

Its not the fact that they are being "mean girls" its the fact that is hard to make close friends when so many people want your attention. I try to be nice to everyone because I know how it hurts to not be noticed by the people you like, but honestly I'm being fake, I want to post my dolls and talk to my friends about my dolls, not give random people all the info they desire and attention they want, sure I might meet 1 or 2 people I like down the road as well, but in the sea of likes and comments I would rather not try. The thing is that you don't want to stop because your friends are also in that type of social media, and you want to stay active with them, so is kinda difficult and a pain in the ass.

I hope this doesn't come off as bitchy or egotistic, I'm just throwing in my two cents about this bullcrap people try to aim for.

What's with all the autistic storytime videos people do youtube?
I only collect dolls because they're beautiful and a lot of people thought I was weird for not giving them stories.
WTF is this community?

>>5886935
>>5886505

OP here.

I never said I wanted to be popular. I just said I wanted to talk to people and not deal with elitism.

My dolls are pretty cute, methinks. They've got nice faceups and wear fancy ass clothing, urethane eyes, etc. I don't know if they're up to /BJD/'s standards since you guys are assholes, but they're at least decent looking.

>>5887058
IDK. But a lot of the face-up ones have weird-ass accents.

>>5887058
I don't give them stories, but each doll has a name, a particular style, "sibling" that they look related to and I usually dress them for the season. It's more about cohesive displays and planning purchases/coordinating looks for me.

>>5886146
you've never actually illustrated anything in paint tool sai before, have you

>>5887153
I have paint tool Sai, clip art studio and several versions of photoshops. Go be a weeb about art somewhere else, since most Sai sluts like to pretend is god send for their animu shit. Sai is NICE if you want to do quick shit and make it look fancy, but in the long run it doesn't compare to the other two programs I just mentioned. It is a good started program, efficient and gets thing done quick and nice, great for people that are just getting a tablet, but if you want an actual job as an animator or in a story board they would tell you to fuck off. Sai is kiddy shit, ask any artists out there that actually gets paid for doing their job.

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>>5887064
I wasn't really saying you were trying to get popular, but it is going to happen regardless if you want it or not if you have nice dolls. It goes like this. So my advice is to get to know the people you want and if you don't want unwanted attention to limit the amount of posts you do.

>get in social media
>Post dolls
>people likes and comments
>get boner from it
>get friends you wanted
>get more comments
>notice the people trying to talk to you have nothing in common with you besides dolls. You don't like them.
>they keep trying to get your attention
>soon enough you have a followers you didn't even know how they got there
>Ignore them
>people call you a bully
>Talk to me, you are being fake as fuck now.
>don't know what to do now.

>>5887207
I agree with this anon that Sai is legit Kiddy bullshit. Any serious art and design course instructor will laugh at your ass if you mention SAI. Photoshop is where its at, hun.

>>5887058

Haven't you ever wanted to make your own action figure? For me bjd are a chance to have a physical representation of a character I created. It's like playing around in a very expensive character creator in a video game.

If I had any real talent/free time i'd try to sculpt my own from scratch to make it truly unique but for now I'll just customize my existing bjd.

>>5887231

I don't get what your problem is. If people ask you questions just answer them, you don't have to have lengthy conversations with everyone. How are people making the jump from you ignoring them to you being a bully?

Tbh it jus t seems like you want attention but only on your own terms.

>>5886505
I dislike Instagram because it seems to help shitty people cover their messes better than other sites. If somebody is a shit on other sites, it's not hard to notice, but Instagram is so fragmented, somebody can be scamming or shitting all over the place, and still keep looking clean.

>>5887313
Anon I'm going to just believe you are socially retarded or not very into the social part of the hobby but the vast majority of the people you interact with in this hobby get easily fucking offended and take everything personal, almost like if you just slapped their mothers and spat in their mouth, specially in the social media sites, this is why I'm saying I fucking regret doing this shit so much, don't be a moron. If you don't reply to them they go into lengthy rants about how you ignore them and talk shit behind your back non-stop, just look at the confession blogs, this is the difference between being "known" and "unknown". I honestly wouldn't give a fuck if it wasn't because it also affects my sales and also my interaction with my friends as they start to harass them too.

If it was that fucking easy you think I would be complaining about it and telling anon to be careful. No.

>>5887305
Not that anon, but no, I haven't, several haven't, and that's fine. I tend to scour the internet for pretty sculpts, buy them, then think about how to style it during the wait, instead of trying to force a sculpt to match an OC. (I think it's funny when someone draws a character with that typical tumblr look [chubby face, bulbous nose, etc.] then slaps a wig on a MNF Chloe and calls it a day.) None of my dolls have names, and I think the lack of personality lets me style them without worrying about being "out of character" or something.

>>5887305
it's not like I buy naked dolls and plop them on a shelf and call it good.
The whole purpose of BJD hobby for me is to make fantastical avant garde designs and outfits to dress these dolls in. I don't understand how you need a special snowflake OC to be able to do that.
I wouldn't be so frustrated if most of the people in this hobby who I have met didn't treat me as a wierdo for using these dolls as models as oppose to OC shells as if that's the whole potential and purpose these dolls have. Especially since the first thing people in this hobby want to do is talk about my OCs and when I tell them I don't have any they just stop being interested.
It gets really annoying dude.

The whole OC shell thing wouldn't be so stupid if people didn't treat their characters as sentient beings. I swear, whenever I go on youtube people talk to their dolls like a bunch of sociopaths. It's really pathetic and embarrassing.

>>5887420
sounds like you are kinda salty they stop caring?

Sorry you feel that way anon but if there is no attachment to your models, there is no reason for people to care about them. People are still going to like how they look, but what makes people care is whatever they can connect or find that model also interesting and just dressing them up doesn't do that.

I honestly don't care if people use them just as models or OC, but I'm not going to lie and tell you I care about models more than OC, I don't. The story or personality the OC has helps a lot with the appeal they have styled around them too.

People being passionate about their doll OC is no different than an artist or animator being passionate about their work. People just find it "creepy" because is dolls and not a drawing. Quite frankly I find that way of thinking stupid itself and immature, but to each their own.

Is there a good in depth tutorial on wiring dolls?

>>5887532
>cut wire to fit
>run through the body

There you go

>>5887535
Tip of the wire gets stuck to the elastic and won't go through the channels. How do I prevent it from happening?

>>5887558
Anon I'm trying to help you but I'm concerned about your logical reasoning.

>bend tiny bit of end of wire back so it no longer has a sharp edge
>wrap a tiny bit of electrical or masking tape to cover it
>no more bad stabby bit

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>>5887420
I don't think your dolls need an OC or big backstory.
I have friends who are the heavy OC type, and friends who just want pretty dolls and it works well among us.

However, I have to agree with the other anon, models tend to be harder to be interested in.
Yes, your doll looks nice, but else?
What am I supposed to say about it?
"Oh, you managed to buy another pretty outfit? Great for you!" or "Another nice pair of eyes you have there".
It just gets awfully boring after a while.
It's like watching the collection of a "default only" collector.
It reminds me of fashion doll owners who are just about how much money they spent/which dolls they have sitting in their cabinets.
Or all those DD owners with dolls that look like anyone elses.

The ones with nice OCs are more interesting to follow (if they aren't the crazy type).
I can watch how they put work into a doll going from a basic model to their character.
Their photos try to show the character behind the doll/its story.
It's pretty dolls with a little extra on top.
As said, they need to be the non-crazy type with gorgeous dolls, but that's easy to achieve if you just follow the right people.
Neither Tumblr nor Youtube is the place for that, since both are places where mediocre crazies fawn at each other (and in case of Youtube, fawn at recasts too).
Instagram is difficult because there are too many non-doll collector, non-photography interested teenagers.

>>5887653
Adding: if your dolls truly look really good and the photos are great too people will not care much about the character.
However, you need to find the right people.

As said, there are other "models only" collectors, so try to interact with them.
There are also lots of people who just give their doll a name to make it easier to refer to/a very basic character to work with to find a style.

>>5887064
/bjd/ has low standards to be honest.
People fawn at office-chan and she's just some Volks with default face-up and always the same outfit.
It's basically the same standards DoD had in the end.
As long as your doll isn't really looking like shit/you put in the most basic care and take pictures that don't make eyes bleed /bjd/ is fine with it.

>>5887313
I agree with other anon, it seems like you aren't really into the social part of the hobby to know what happens there.

As soon as you get a little more popular you attract the weirdest idiots.
People who tag them and their friends underneath your pictures and suddenly start roleplaying there.
Dozens of people who aren't interested in your photos/dolls but just keep on asking where you bought X (of course without even getting a "thank you!" if you answer them).
People who constantly try to demand from you to do thing X ("make X custom", "take picture of X", "gift Person something" etc.).
People who lose their shit if you tell 'em to please read your FAQ when you get the same "Where do you buy these dolls?" several times a day.
Just look at the comments Andreja gets on her stuff sometimes.
I honestly can't blame her for not wanting to reply to some of them anymore.
It gets worse on plattforms that are not about art (at least as basic idea) and/or have a huge following of teenagers.

When you stop answering some of them flock to the Confession Tumblr or send you messages on how you dare to ignore them.
You either need to have very thick skin, honestly don't care, or make sure to keep a small group of like-minded people around you that makes it fun to interact with.
If you have a shop stuff gets difficult, because you always need to stay nice even if it a) has nothing to do with your shop and b) the other person is a rude dick.

I love helping newbies and don't mind answering questions, but a lot of them are fucking rude.
And they don't even realize they are rude and then get even worse if they are ignored.

>>5887420
Yknow I'm the same as you. Let's be weirdo's together.

I have OC's but no single doll I've seen has come close to representing what my characters look like. I'm a massively picky bitch so I know that my OC's will never be shell'd into dolls, and I'm content with that.
I actually find it weird that people with OC's will settle on doll sculpts.

I kinda feel like having model dolls basically drops ur chance of being popular to about 1%.... but having said that, the only popular "model" collectors I can think of ATM are Andreja (boring AF dolls) and Culur (tacky Andreja clone, so boring AF) and if being a popular model collector means being boring AF then... /shrug/ I'll stick with my not boring unpopular shit.

>>5887682
Eh, I think it depends on what counts as a model collector.
Actually Andreja's dolls did have some kind of character (at least, back in the days), but they were as shallow as everything else she does.
Culur did have OCs too (like that tan Lorina of hers).
A boring ass MNF with a name and basic story is still an OC, even if it doesn't look like much.

I think the ones who truly just have models and are still popular in some way are the ones who don't really act like they are just models to them AND have something else to show for.
Like, the ones who sew gorgeous clothes/make nice face-ups/have a very sought after product of some kind.
People don't care much about Andreja's "OCs" because they are interested in all her other stuff.

Else you have the shitton of DD collectors, or asian BJD collectors who share zero of their characters/stories...if they even have 'em.
Their work is still well liked, if you just look at favourites/comments they get.
But they don't interact much with western collectors.

>>5887694

I think, for me at least, it comes down to what the person intends to do with the character/whatever attached to the doll.
Andreja seems to have bare minimum characteristics on her dolls; a name and a fashion sense. So essentially, her dolls are models for the fashions she dresses them in, and they have names so you can tell one NS MNF Chloe from another.
Culur is very similar to me.

Whereas, someone who is writing a novel to go with their dolls and they have a defined storyline, start middle and end to what the character exists to achieve. Those are the kinds of people who are more... what would you call them? OC Shellers?

But no, you're right. I'd still consider those DD or like.. asian/super european/russian collectors who have dolls that look pretty model collectors. That sorta genre of BJD's completely slipped my mind. orz

How do they get millions of likes and we don't.
I'm probably just a shitty collector lbr /shrug
Maybe it's an attitude thing...
Who knows. Russian witch craft, as SimplyNailogical says.

>>5886462
Do you have any links to the close ups?

>>5887681
Office-chan is not about the money. It's about the comedy.

>>5887694
>>5887862

I guess I would be an 'OC sheller' but until recently I had no idea that anyone cared. Usually I follow the 'no one cares about your OCs so stfu" rule

>>5887681
Office-chan is cute and funny, no one says she is the most amazing bjd ever, plus anon is the only one that isn't a pussy about posting their dolls besides faceup-anon. All the other dolls here are reposts from other owners. So is nice to see actual original content.

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>>5887917
i have three OC shells, the rest are doll sculpts i liked and thought up a certain style and personality to theme them around, but they have no actual backstory or anything. i never bother reading people's OC stories, so I never write out mine either. so i guess i also follow the "no one cares about your OCs so stfu" rule

in other news. not enough doll pics in this thread right now so here's my realfee brandishing a weapon (i recently noticed that his damn hand magnet attracted the chain and now i can't unsee it and now you can't unsee it either.)

>>5887927

the last few times I've posted people have said my dolls are shit or no replies. I don't mind being boring or mediocre but I hate sharing to get shit on, /toy/ used to not be like that

>>5887941
toy has ALWAYS been like that about customized ANYTHING

unless you have something most other people don't have, take good or funny pictures, have a good setup or big collection, or are amazing at customs people will shit on you.

just look at the daibadi thread, all those robots look the same, but the second someone tries to draw on their own panel lines "THOSE PANEL LINES LOOK LIKE SHIT"

>>5887943
/bjd/ hasn't, though, I remember years ago people were praising some ugly ass resinsouls on here.

Really stops people from posting OC though, then people say 'why does no one post their bjds in here??'

>>5887951
meh i had posting my dolls here bite me in the ass a few years ago but i no longer give a fuck. i post mine all the time. i take shitty pics but my camera is decent so they are at least clear, well lit, and not grainy. none of my dolls have good outfits. i guess its just the faceups and nice hair that keep mine from being shit on? idk anon, you should be able to look at a pic you've taken and know if its decent enough to post. it just needs:

- clear, non flash photo
- combed wig (no obvious tangles / fly aways everywhere
- non shit faceup
- decent clothes (no ragged, neon colored handmade, dollar store knock off barbie outfits)

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>>5887935
>in other news. not enough doll pics in this thread right now

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>>5887974
you only have two choices, office chan. kill him, or make the girl another one of your slaves


my poor vamp girly only has midget minions, she wishes she was so luck as to have proper slaves to give her feet massages and fan her on hot days. office chan is living the life.

>>5887974

she's too young for him office chan, call the police

>>5887943
/toy/ is like the DD community at times.
They love to fawn at customs, but those customs have to be made by a certain set of customizers.
Anything else is shit, and they mostly own default themselves.

Which is the reason I got bored with the DD community after a while.
If you aren't some japanese customizer who sells on Y! they honestly don't care, and the western collectors all went the default route.

>>5887927
I actually think lots of the replies to her are creepy af, because it comes across as thirsty and "I wish a real woman would touch me".

>>5887892
https://www.flickr.com/photos/93386683@N06/16443218716/sizes/k/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ashley_lynn_photog/8640148555/sizes/h/

Just a quick search in her group.
Some are smoother than that, but especially the eyebrows are shit and the white lid line she does.
It's never as smooth as acrylic and definitely less smooth than it looks like on her videos/pictures.
People who use pencils and are sad it doesn't look buttery smooth like hers need to look at some pictures.
It's just the nature of the material.

>>5887982
TBQH, she looks like a teenaged mother. Kinda digging it, though.

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>>5888016
yeah, she still looks pretty young, but at least its better than when she had a littlefee body

>>5884261
Te only reason i would own one of this is if i can fuck them

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>>5888009
>I actually think lots of the replies to her are creepy af, because it comes across as thirsty and "I wish a real woman would touch me".

While this is true, I consider the intentions behind those comments to be more comedic than "I wish a real woman would touch me".

>>5888029
I agree, I think most comments are in good nature or just funny, plus she is cute and anon does good humorous fanservice with her.

>>5888029
>>5888039
On every other place but 4chan I would have believed that too, but here?
She also seems to be popular on /jp/ and there I truly doubt it's a joke.

>>5888046
in /jp/ its likely legit, but /bjd/ is mostly women so unless we're all raging lesbians i think its safe to assume we're just kidding around

>>5888026
>>>/jp/

>>5888039
Yep, it's not like we're fawning over her and saying oh how I wish she was human and could step over me.

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>>5887951

I dunno anon, I think toy has been pretty fair for the most part even as of late. You'll never be good enough for some people, but I've also seen others come to the defense of dolls that they feel toy has unjustly shat on. But I guess you're still right about that deterring people from posting their own stuff if that's what they feel has been happening.

Personally, I feel like while it can generally be pretty fair on here, there's still a mixed bag of extremes sometimes that a lot of factors play into. Do you get ignored when you explicitly say the photo is of your doll? Did you post it during a really low traffic time? Maybe you get shit on by an anon who knows who you are and just doesn't like your dolls. Maybe you posted right after some really good looking dolls which make your dolls look like shit in comparison. I feel like that contradicts what I said about it being generally fair, but i dunno man.

I feel like as long as you hit all the points >>5887972, you're not going to have to have too hard a time.

>>5887058
I started in this hobby when i was literally about 10 or 12. I used to have deep, coherent backstories for my dolls, but now as an adult I can't find the energy to do so, for me it's more like >>5887131 says now. Each doll has a name, a style, a "feeling", but no real story or "character". I guess it really depends on why the person is in the hobby.

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since i am in a good mood you may glance upon my lemon flavored vinyl

>>5886148
i think shes cute but if you got her bangs to lay flat and got her better eyes she would be even cuter.

>>5888806
That's a cute outfit. Very Spring-y.

>>5888806
She looks pregnant. Either the dress or the angle, but something is unflattering.

Guppywoo's new Jaeseop doll is so fucking ugly. I can't believe they actually think he looks like AJ from u-kiss.

Guys, I made a boo-boo with my acrylic face-up. It looks awful. Acetone should wipe it right?

>>5889632
91% isopropyl alcohol and Magic Eraser.

>>5889639
Does that work after it's been sealed?

>>5889759

It's what you normally use to remove a face-up safely.
Mr. Thinner isn't available everywhere, nail polish remover without color AND acetone AND oils are rare too (where I live they all have oils for your skin).
Isopropanyl is safe and easy to get.
Acetone can fuck up your doll if you aren't careful.

>>5889632
>>5889759
Do a spot test on an inconspicuous spot.
You probably don't want to discover that your doll is allergic to isopropanol in the middle of her face.

>>5889639
if you didnt seal it then it should rub off with just magic eraser. if you did seal it... might as well wipe the whole thing and start over because its almost impossible to hide the edges of spots where the sealant was taken off.

>>5889036

It could just be that she's pregnant? Did you ever stop to think that maybe she's cishet? Maybe she loves her master and carrying his child is the ultimate expression of that? These may be difficult concepts for you.

>>5890224
Yep, because that's a doll.

>>5889036
>>5890224
>>5890232
i cant believe my doll got teen pregnant....

>>5890337
I mean, sure, it doesn't sound very nice, but you can see it too, right?

>>5890350
it's an issue with empire waisted dresses.

but I have to take responsibility for this. I hope to see you all at the wedding.

>>5890358
If only all teen pregnancies were as responsible as yours.
But be honest, you're not too unpleased, are you?

>>5890337
This is why I stopped using my dollho.

How will you explain this to your mother?

>>5890878
>mom, dad, I got a girl pregnant
>it's about damn time! your mother and I were starting to wonder if you were gay!

I'm not him but I imagine that's how it'd go.

You should keep using your dollho. Just think of all the cute MDDs you'll have.

Shot in the dark here, but does anyone know of any other resin that might match Soom's tawny? I was thinking maybe Angell Studio, since its that same pinky type tan rather than the orange/brown.

>>5891215
Off hand, no. It's actually rather light brown (and one of my favorite colors of theirs), compared to other companies' orangy-hued tans. You could always see if the company does resin matching. I'm not sure about AS, but I know Loongsoul, Spiritdoll, RS, and Impldoll have done it in the past (probably still do).

Sorry I'm not all that helpful.

>>5891283
>>5891215
I know Angell Studio does resin matching, but from what I hear, it's crazy stupid expensive on top of their already expensive dolls.

>>5890337
Abstinence only education doesn't work, Anon.

>>5889036
empress waistlines + anything with volume tends to do that

Time to be pathetic
How can I get a lil more recognition in the hobby? Just like. Some acknowledgement I exist would be nice. I feel like my dolls are pretty neat and my photography is better than most of the crap that goes through instagram.
Am I boring? Who know. Tell me.

>>5892647
I have the solution.

Shut up and post dolls retard.

>>5892647
>>5892661
True, how could we know if you're worth shit if you don't post pictures?

>>5892647

post your pics, basically. on tumblr/instagram/DoA whathaveyou.

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>>5892647

Be a cishet white male free from any disabilities or illnesses and post on tumblr. It worked for me - I'm a household name and can have a legion of people foaming at the mouth at its mere mention.

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>>5892734
I am sure anon meant positive recognition.

>>5892647
Just saying, if that's your general approach at the hobby it's no surprise nobody fucking acknowledges you.
Post pictures, we are not psychics.

>>5892734

Infamy is not the same as fame.

Besides, only like 2 or 3 people even care about confessions made about you, and no all those pathetic self confessions you make don't count.

I fucked up and didn't order an Iplehouse FID. What's your latest BJD regret?

>>5892734
FTF, ILY. Marry Me.

>>5893058
Not ordering Soom Rosettes when they were still available. Everyday I live with crushing regret.

>>5893058

Dollzone Anson will always be my biggest doll regret.
I mean, I wasn't in the hobby at the time of their release, but that's no excuse.

>>5893121
I was, and I regret it even more.
Am jealous of everyone who owns an Anson/Moment, and I still hope that one day someone asks me to airbrush theirs.

Why do people say taobao is a good place to buy cheap bjd clothes? I spent all morning browsing it and I couldn't find anything decent for less than $40. You can buy stuff from Chinese sellers on ebay for less than that.

>>5893161
The base price is cheaper for the same article.
Had that a few times with articles from rRabit, especially shoes.
Seller wants 30$, on Taobao it's 18$.
Doesn't mean that the quality is any better, you just pay less for the same quality you would have paid more for on an international store.
Hurts a little less when an item turns out to be shit.

It's mostly worth it when you buy a lot of stuff or found something you can't get elsewhere (since some chinese sellers don't sell outside of Taobao).
For only a few pieces the combination of dealer fee and double shipping usually makes it not worth it.
Doesn't work for everything though, some Taobao shops costs pretty much the same (or are like, 2$ cheaper).

>>5893184

Yeah but by the time you add the shopping service fees in and shipping the 18 item might as well be 30.

>>5893201
That's why I said it really only works if you buy a lot of stuff at once and the fees get split more evenly among the items.

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>>5893084

But we're both girls and girls can't marry each other in this country.

>>5892875

Good attention, bad attention, it's all the same. It feeds me just as well.

>>5892734
>>5893657
>Be a cishet white male
>But we're both girls
somebody is lying

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>>5893058
why oh why did I get that doll in white skin.
I have had her for 6 years now, so I don't want to part with her but I feel like she would be cuter in normal skin

>>5893657

Then why don't you stay in the doll thread on /jp? You have no interest in resin bjds so why not stay over there. Or do they hate you too.

>>5892647
>My dolls are nice
>Photography is better than most

Every single time a bitch says this, it means their dolls are mediocre and their pictures are just taken with a camera but are still awful. Post your dolls, otherwise we won't know wtf is happening.

Maybe your dolls are boring, maybe all you own is fairyland and they look like 99% of the other FL dolls out there, maybe you only own boring punk boys, maybe you own dolls from a company that not a lot of people care about, maybe your pictures are boring, maybe YOU yourself are boring. There a shit ton of reasons why you might be invisible.

Do you do faceups? Do you do clothing? do you do wigs? What do you do in this hobby? Most of the time people that actually work on their dolls are the popular ones (with the exception of crackupaids because of his obsession with yaoi sluts that get most yaoi girls panties wet), and the ones that just munch off of them are left to complain why their dolls are not popular even though they are pretty, is because you might be a talentless tard.

Are there any mini alien or robot dolls anyone knows of?

>>5894452
>tfw you have boring fairyland dolls, are boring, take boring photos, and are a talentless turd

ah.... well, happens I guess...

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>>5894452
Kinda dont want people knowing I frequent 4chan, not just /toy/. So, I doubt I'd ever really post MY dolls here. Shrug. I'll never get advice on how to become senpau.

None of my dolls are from FL, I do faceups, make clothes, wigs, photography.
No yaoi sluts, sadly, most of my dolls are girls. I should jump on the tacky glitter whore trend with a sprinkling of lesbian.

Maybe I am talentless, but considering the calibre of people who ARE popular in this hobby, that doesn't seem to be an excuse.

>>5895129

>Maybe I am talentless, but considering the calibre of people who ARE popular in this hobby, that doesn't seem to be an excuse.

So the fact that you won't post your dolls and you keep shitting on popular people for being more popular than you with 'less talent' just makes me think you're a whiney bitch.

Since you had no intention of posting your dolls here to prove your talent why did you even post? Take that shit over to truebjdconfessions if you want to whine anonymously.

>>5895129
Agree with this >>5895261 anon, you sound like a whiney bitch.

There are three, okay...four ways to get popular:
1) Be really, really good at what you are doing
2) Offer something "unique"
3) Personality
4) Find that hole that's just made for you

1) is hard.
You not only need to put in lots of work, you also need to make sure to always be visible and be on top of everything.
Good people who are popular usually have something else to offer or had that one thing that all of a sudden pushed them into popularity (like one certain doll or custom).
Just being good is not enough.

2) This can be everything from face-ups to clothes and whatnot.
That's the people with popular shops but with dolls you never heard about.
Take Raouken for example, everyone knows her for her corsets but outside of them nobody cares about her stuff, her dolls and so on.

3) Some people just attract others due to their personality.
They are usually followed by people who share the same character traits and aren't just into following people for their dolls.
Example: people who are just super friendly, positive and generally pleasant to follow.
Their dolls might be boring/barely okay but that's not why people follow them.
Also applies to people with certain dolls followed by other people with certain dolls, they are followed because their followers feel like they are on the same level.
Oh, and people who fake being nice.

4) Combination of 2 and 3.
Take Elfgutz for example, to most BJD collectors her dolls look like shit...but the non-BJD collectors and usual teenager weebs think her stuff is great.
She also attracts people who think being edgy is great, vegans and other ~aesthetic~ lovers.
She's popular because she attracts and satisfies a very specific crowd.
Very difficult to achieve because you never know what suddenly might become popular/unpopular.

Oh, and drama of course, but I don't really count that.

>>5895283
Adding:

It also depends on where you are posting your dolls.
Some people are crazily popular on Instagram and outside of that nobody ever fucking heard about them.
There are a lot of people who fall into your "talentless, but popular" category who are like that.
You need to find a community that fits your taste in dolls and shares similar views on the hobby.

What's popular also depends on who you ask.
Some teenager who's only BJD community is the one on Tumblr will probably say Elfgutz, Sicktress, Mirrorada, Namiren.
Only Youtube and you get DenaliWind, AnnePecaro and back then Andreja (Andreja is nowadays generally popular though).
Someone who's been in the hobby for years and checks mostly DoA and Flickr would say SDink, MadameMauMau, CandyGears, Bluoxyde.
The truly popular ones are mentioned by most collectors, no matter how old they are, where they actively post, how long they've been in the hobby.

Those truly popular people are also never the talentless type with fugly dolls.

>>5895129
Oh no people will know I'm in 4chan complaining about how unpopular I am. If you are a nobody why the fuck does it matter? 4chan has a wide range of topics and people, is only the idiots that believe is a bad and oh so terrible website.

Post your shit or quit complaining.

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The most beautiful eye opening mod EVER. Not to mention the masterpiece of a faceup.

>>5895379
wew
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>>5895379
what had was this even

>>5895438
It's some Ringdoll Grown I believe. It's been modded beyond recognition unfortunately.

>>5895438
Judging by the lips, I guess it's a Ringdoll Lucifer. I could be very wrong though.

>>5895379
This looks like it was colored with crayons by a 4 year old.

>>5895129
>>5895129
> *sigh* boohoo woe is me bullshit
Found your problem. I wouldn't follow you either if this is what you're like

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>>5895379
ok.

>>5894605
>robot
Batchix, that tin man that I can't remember the name of, Ringdoll has made some mech option parts as well.

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>>5895520
Damn. I could not have guessed it was Lucifer. That's one of the few Ringdoll sculpts I actually like.

>>5895129
Maybe you should consider making friends in the hobby. I think my only exposure on tumblr are reblogs from friends. The only photos I got recognition from were just going outside with a nicely dressed doll. But then again, idgaf about popularity. I'm not in the hobby to please others.

>>5894605
The ones I can think of off hand are Batchix Machinas and the Souldoll Souloids. The latter comes in large and mini sizes, but are limited runs. So many people do mods to existing dolls to get more robot-y looks.

>>5894605

I recommend batchix mini machina. I have one and they are really fun dolls, good posers and at least the one I have is so well finished.

People say all the time that fairyland, especially minifee Chloes, are boring. What do you guys think it wold take to make an 'interesting' Chloe?

>>5898092
It's not that they are boring, the sculpt itself is cute as hell. It's just the fact that they are literally everywhere and everything has been done with them and there are thousands of them that are clones of one another. So by now people are bored with them, I honestly don't think you can do much with the sculpt anymore that would impress people or make them care, except maybe having a boy Chloe that looks boyish or androgynous.

>>5898092
I'm not a big fan of the Chloe sculpt at all, it's too duck faced for me.
I'd like to to see someone fix that damn botox-y lower lip and do it well.
And also a dude Chloe. That doesn't look like all the female Chloes.

>>5898260
>>5898639

Good to know I guess? Strted the hobby a long time ago with Volks, Chloe was my first non-volks and first doll after years... got back into the comm and I've never seen a doll people were so over before. At least it used to be "oh, Volks, you must be elitist." Now I show up to meets and I get "Oh. Chloe. That sculpt sure is generic." Or "Well, Chloe is always a safe choice." It's kind of frustrating, It's fine if the sculpt isn't your thing but I've never met so many people with unsolicited opinion on a doll before.

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>>5898873
At a meet, it's understandable to consider "Chloe sculpt is X" an unsolicited opinion. But >>5898092 literally asked for our opinion on the sculpt, and what we thought it would take to create a doll with that sculpt that we consider "interesting". Our opinion isn't unsolicited.
And it's just than; an opinion. You don't have to share our views. You obviously found the sculpt cute enough to buy (and hey, >>5898260 thinks it's cute as hell) but other people don't.
Embrace the fact you have an extremely popular sculpt, accept the fact that most people who don't have that sculpt find it boring, and just enjoy having your doll.

>>5898930
Sorry for the confusion, I am both those posters. I meant I am not sure how to make my Chloe less 'boring' to avoid unsolicited opinions, hence I solicited opinions on why people feel that way. I definitely appreciate your thoughts.

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I moved house recently and I don't have anywhere to put my dolls. I have one standing on my bedside table but there's literally no other flat surface to put them on that isn't the floor, and I have more dolls than I do stands. There's also a dog running around who has a wet nose and a penchant for knocking shit over. Anyone got any cool ideas for a DIY doll display?

>>5898873
>oh, Volks, you must be elitist.
lol

Why is that?
Does Volks do things that other doll companies don't?
Limiteds?
After market prices?

>>5898639
What do you mean by botoxy lower lip? Botox makes muscles paralyzed. Do you mean a filler?

>>5898971
See what glass-doored cabinets are available for free/cheap on craigslist.

>>5899052
That's been a thing since ye olde times.

Lots of Volks are limited and/or more expensive than a similar model from a different company.
In some countries they are difficult to get, the whole of Europe just has the japanese online store to order from.
Since Volks are expensive and doesn't mark down packages that means huge custom fees too (huge as in, 150€ and more).
Everything is more expensive with them, while their style and engineering is still pretty old-school.

However, it's a silly thing nowadays.
A Soom full-set is the same price, lots of European dolls are hard to get (some only sell to locals).
But Volks stays for some at the top of expensive/hard to get.

I actually don't envy people who prefer Volks. I have a few myself and I hate how for the nice heads you have to pay 600+ bucks or more, how limited everything is, how difficult it is as European etc.

>>5899068
Not really an option for rural Australia, those things are incredibly hard to come by for less than a grand.

>>5898946

Tbh I dont think there is much you can do. Most of Fairyland's dolls are pretty same faced and the company has been placed on a pedestal by so many fairyland fans that it just rubs people the wrong way. I for one am so sick of my meet up group telling newbies who want a realistic looking doll to 'buy a fairyland' and then when I point out fairyland isn't realistic in the slightest and have giant lollipop heads I get dog piled.

>>5899052
In the early days of the hobby alot of volks fans were weaboos who would shit on any doll who wasn't a made in precious nippon. There was a lot of 'volks is the original, everybody else is cheap copies!' Being tossed around so they got the reputation for being snobby elitists.

Most of the accusation of elitism towards volks owners today are just echos of that.

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>>5898971
Wall niche. Recessed if you own the place. Surface mount if not.

https://www.google.com/search?q=wall+niche&biw=1358&bih=830&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiNo7q7wf3OAhXK2B4KHQrGBJUQ_AUIBygC

>>5899091
Ooo, will look into this

>>5899086
There is an archived collections/display thread. Everytime, the shitposters talk about detolf vs funiture etc.

As far as rural Australia is concerned, I think it is best to take a day trip to your nearest IKEA for a few detolfs (if you like them) or suck it up and pay a grand for 'real furniture'.

Not trying to bring the collections/display thread shit posting here, but that was the TL:DR version of that thread.

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>>5899086
You might have to hunt around the local freecycle/nomiebook pages for a wall-mounted curio cabinet, then. Check estate sales, yard sales, church basement sales, etc. Might have to repair a hinge or glue some cracked wood, but price-wise it'll be better.

>>5899089
I must just be in the wrong comms. In my local group there was never more than 1 or 2 minifees or owners at a meetup. Same with Volks though. I only know one other person who owns Volks in the local comm..

I've also been in the comm since 2000, there were a couple vocal crazies on DoA but even then when I went to my first meetup in 04 I was the only one with a Volks

>>5899109
>day trip
I'm over 1,500 km away from the nearest ikea. But it's not like I can't buy furniture here, it just won't be a pretty glass cabinet. Maybe I could buy some more doll stands and line them up on a cute coffee table against the wall or something. I'm just after some ideas, I'm not after detolf vs. furniture because detolfs just aren't an option.

>>5899111
I'll have a look through normiebook, there's also a tip shop here that sometimes has decent furniture. Thanks anon.

>>5899144
If you have a glass cutter near you, DIY is definitely an option to build your own glass cabinet.

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>>5898946
Ahh, my mistake.
Just take your doll and enjoy it. That's the best way to avoid shitty comments.
Try not to care when people say "Chloe is generic". Like, on one level its a fact because, if we look at pure numbers, Chloe is a really generic sculpt. A LOT of people buy her.
But that just means she's cute. She has features most people find appealing; big eyes, full pouty lips, a pleasant smile, heart shaped face. Cute as hell. So your doll is cute. And you probably like what you've done with the doll. That's ALL that matters. Do you.
If you wanna try something different FOR YOUR SAKE, styling a Chloe like a boy might be cool, coz that doesn't happen very often, or maybe a style outside of like.. fashionable pastel goth etc etc. Go full Victorian. Or go all out and make her a pin-up girl with really distinctive, recognizable makeup and cool as hell photos, taking advantage of their posability. I'm super down for this idea. But just do what you like. Experiment. if you're married to her face, I wouldn't recommend mods though.

If people rag on you for having a "generic" doll, just go "Yes, and your point is?" because I doubt they'll say anything beyond that.

>>5899066
O m g I've been lied to my entire life.
Yes, I mean filler, thanks for correcting me

>>5898971
I like corner shelves.
Bunnings has a fair few cool "box" styled shelves that you could mount sideways and make a few doll displays with the boxes. You build those yourself, obvsly. But I think they're pretty rad.

>>5898971
I just use a desk and then I use the boxes of my dolls to make risers and cover them over with scarves. Everyone is sitting or on a stand and it makes a nice multi-level display. (I have about 20 dolls for reference)

>>5898092
This is my ~opinion~, so take it as you will, but I think the reason Chloe is ALL OVER THE FUCKING PLACE may be due to it being Andreja's ~favorite sculpt~. It also doesn't help that it's a doll available in 3-4 sizes. Honestly, I'm a little tired of Ante for this reason, but it's nowhere as bad as Chloe. In all honesty, I did like them before they were everywhere, but now they're so common. Soom Sard/Dia are on that list too, but most of those owners at least try to have special snowflake tattoos to their face.

>>5899144
Blah, it had to suck being that far from everything else. I live out in a rural area, but not that far. I kind of agree with either >>5899154
or >>5899341
I put mine on my desk, with my tinies/minis in chairs or sitting on the edge of the top part of my desk. All the larger dolls have stands.

So manga-zin has proven itself to be shady as fuck. Who else saw this coming from a mile away? They were always spamming DoA and generally being annoying.

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Sorry if I'm super ignorant but I just saw this and was very confused.
I was browsing through PathosTale dolls and isn't the body the same as the Ringdoll kid body with some tumor things added to it?

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>>5901540
the picture is the Ringdoll body.
Do they have the same artist? or are they branch of the same company?

>>5901540
>>5901547
If you check their DoA thread you'll see that they are indeed sister companies/operate both under the same bigger company.
https://denofangels.com/threads/pathostale-limited-twins-luona-and-luosheng-in-1-4-size.718242/

Weird, I always thought Pathos was an artist doll, but I never really checked.

>>5901584
Thanks for the confirmation.

I'm a newb in the hobby and I always wondered how come Mirodoll, and Bobobie manage to sell such cheap dolls? I mean their prices sometimes are cheaper than some recast shops.
I know the of the resin is trash and the craftsmanship of the sculpts is poor but still they do full seam sanding, and fantasy colors for a very cheap price.
Do they secretly run a recast shop on the side or something? I can't imagine their business being profitable for them at all at the rate they go.

>>5899086
>>5898971
Cheap alternative that may be easier for you to source is an entertainment center type shelf. They're largely being phased out now that everyone's switching to big screen wall mounted TVs, and have multiple cubbies including a large central one that would be great for SD dolls. I've seen some great displays made using them. Some even had added on glass or plastic doors which sounds like a good idea in your situation. They could be rigged up with just basic plexiglass with bolted on hinges and knob, or get fancy and use a picture frame with glass and removed backing thats the right size.

>>5903935
I don't know about Mirodoll but Bobobie/Resinsoul, it really does come down to quality and craftsmanship. High plastic content resin = cheap, easy to cast (less junk casts, less waste), easier to color smoothly, easy to sand. The sculpts themselves are really basic and a lot is obviously just retooling on the same base, which means they don't have to pay their artists as much and less detail = easier to cast, easier to sand smooth. Seriously, look at the fingers, toes, and mouths on their dolls. They're barely separated and look like just lines traced through, often with rough resin in between. The feet especially, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out they were just using a Dremel type polisher and went straight over top. Super flat toes and any carved in part is rough to the touch.

Plus I'm pretty sure they're actually a full blown factory now. If they are, they're paying Chinese industrial prices for the polymer to make the dolls which would seriously cut the price. At some point they also did casting for artist dolls, I'm not sure if they still do but Sleeping Elf and someone else used to use them.

I've tried to find this answer but google and DoA search has gotten nowhere, nor have the line-specific discussion threads. Is it possible to hybrid the Fairyline busts on the Minifee body, like it was with the Moe line? A pic would be dandy but just a yes or no is fine. I'm eyeing a few Moe/MNF bodies as is but more options is good.

>>5903935
Adding to what other anon said, it's also possible they make profits through selling so much of them.
Prices are low, lots pf people own several of their dolls and before Miro their bodies were popular cheap hybrids.
They might not earn much per doll, but they sell so much of them it evens out.

I bet the caster who produces their dolls casts other stuff too.

Miro can stay cheap for the same reason + their stuff is cheaply made, looks bad, poses bad.
I still laugh how often people buy one of their bodies for a rolling head, just to immediately turn around and sell it.
The bodies are too rubbish even as a glorified bust for a head.
And then you have people like Sicktress who act like Miro is a gift by god.

Does anyone happen to know of a good resin match for the new migidoll tan?
Im trying to hybrid with it since Migi only sells boy bodies.
I thought maaaaybe dollzone? but not sure.
Please help if you can!

ps. if you also know of companies that will custom resin match that would also be super helpful!

>>5904383

With tan your best bet is honestly custom matching.
Tan is too unstable even when buying in a short time frame two parts from the same company.
I have lots of tan dolls and hybrids are a pain in the ass.

Spiritdoll, Angell-Studio, Islanddoll, Miro, Resinsoul, Impldoll all make custom colors.
Lots of chinese companies do in fact, sometimes you can just ask them.
Quality depends, some companies put in more care to match, others don't.

>>5904383
PS: don't try to hybrid with DZ, especially not tan.
Their colors are so unstable, back then they even switched from opaque to translucent resin without telling people :/

>>5904411
Thanks for the info!
A little sad since the photos I saw of their most recent tan colors were so nice. Oh well, I'll just custom color. Thanks for your input.

>>5904089
no. you can't hybrid fairyline busts because the inside isnt strung, its a big weird peg thing and the bust part and arms and held on with magnets. the part that goes over the magnet peg core, is very thing resin, wouldn't hold up to the pressure of using it on a regular minifee body.

>>5904411
dollzone is no longer unstable colorwise. they've even recently changed their colors to be even more stable.

Guys I have dug a hole for myself that I can't figure how to come out.
I have bought a DC Fergus head hoping to hybrid with a cheaper body because the new DC 70cm body is being sold at an assrape price and the aesthetic isn't my type.
However, I'm looking all over the place for an alternative and I can't seem to find a 70cm male body that fits his 8cm neck hole.
What the hell do I do now?
I am considering doing some modding to make it fit but most necks are at 11 cm thickness and I doubt I can sand a whole 3 cm diameter without making the resin paper thin.

Any help would be appreciated.

>>5904009
>>5904215

I see how it is now. It makes sense that the poor quality of the resin makes the sales profitable for them but didn't know the resin was that watered down.
I guess since their doll are thinner casted and lighter than any other company, they cut down on resin and therefore manage to sell at lower prices.

This just proves more how garbage their dolls are at the end of the day.
I can't believe so many people in the hobby crap on higher end companies for ripping people off while treating BBB and mirodoll as being gifts from Odin's asshole. At least the higher end companies don't sell watered down brittle dolls.

>>5904009
>>5904543
>High plastic content resin = cheap, easy to cast (less junk casts, less waste), easier to color smoothly, easy to sand.
Eh, I bought some optional parts to experiment with a few years back from ResinSoul and the resin isn't terrible quality. Actually, now that I think about it, they haven't even yellowed much. I agree that their sculpts are super basic and wonky as hell. Another thing (aside from the price points) that probably brings people back is they have pretty much the best customer service. You want these super fucking random frankendolly parts in different colors? They don't care. You'll get it. For the parts I purchased, the shipping ended up being more than the parts themselves, so they threw in extra sets of parts that I didn't know about until I opened the box. Was pretty neat.

The resin isn't poor quality itself, but they cut out a lot in the aesthetic department.

As for Mirodoll, I don't know. Have zero experience from them and kind of intend to keep it that way.

>>5904009

>Bobobie/Resinsoul, it really does come down to quality and craftsmanship. High plastic content resin = cheap, easy to cast (less junk casts, less waste), easier to color smoothly, easy to sand

If that is true then I wish other companies would use this 'cheap' resin for fantasy colored dolls. Seriously resinsoul dolls don't feel THAT bad and I'd rather have a more plastic doll that doesn't go all funky then pay out the ass for a 'better' resin.

>And then you have people like Sicktress who act like Miro is a gift by god.

To be fair if your main enjoyment out of this hobby is extreme modding mirodoll gives you an ultra cheap base to fuck up. I've actually considered buying one of their dolls to mod into a horrifying insect woman because even if I fuck it up there is no loss.

Also Inb4 'if your going to mod it that much anyway why not sculpt a doll from scratch?' Bitch you know sculpting from scratch is way harder then even heavy modding so quit playing.

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>>5904531
You might end up with weird aesthetics, what with the head being super stylised and slender, and most of the bodies being the opposite.

Dollzone B60-005 (1/3) has a neck size of 9.3cm and the aesthetics might suit pretty well, and you could divvy up the 13mm between both the head and the neck and make it an 8.5cm hole/neck width rather than an 8cm one.

Where do you get respirators for face up sealants and modding?
I've read over the DoA respiratory protection thread about a million times but half the links are broken and as it turns out I'm rather dense.
What brand/model do you use?

>>5904971
Amazon. eBay. Any online store that carries similar equipment.

The internet is a magical place.

>>5904971
Just get a 3M respirator off Amazon. It won't cost you more than $20. As long as the filter cartridges are built to handle organic vapors you're fine.

>>5904797
Thanks for the suggestion. I actually love that DZ body. But what makes me not get it is because of the very short height. I must have the doll to be 70cm or taller or else it won't fit in my collection :(

>>5905211
70cm+ guys are usually pretty beefy.
DC are unusual because they are so thin, which makes it hard to hybrid their heads on bodies of similar length.

As far as I know there is no doll body in that size with such a small neck, except DCs.
Even lots of regular SDs are thicker up there.
You either need to find the slimmest option available and mod the shit out of the neck....or admit defeat and get the DC one.
Sorry anon.

>>5904971
Organic vapor and particulate combined filter
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LDMDDS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And reusable mask. The mask comes with a P100 mask for particulates (it filters dust, mold, etc.). You want to buy the organic vapor and particulate combined filter separately for painting/spraying.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001NDN29O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Large fits an adult male

>>5904571
Eh, it depends for me.
If you truly get the body because you will mod the shit out of it and know that the body is barely worth the price, that's fine.
You know you buy shit because paying more would be a total waste and because you just need a base to work on.

Sicktress doesn't think of Miro that way.
To her they are a great option for hybrids, because she's cheap and impatient.
Even her fav Haru is on one, and as far as I know the body is unmodded.
And that's silly because their bodies are so fugly and bad, the resin of meh quality that I'd rather have a head on a bust/in a box than spend the 90 bucks to have such an atrocity in my collection (especially as a permanent body).
I've seen too many times how people got one of their bodies because they couldn't afford their favourite body for a head right now....just to turn around and trying to get rid of the Miro because it's too shitty even for that.
Better save that money, unless you truly need a victim to destroy.

Anyone impulse buy anything lately?

I just bought a half off Dollshe Bernard because I was looking for a slenderman-esque body that wasn't DC for one of my floating heads. (Which... is going to produce another floating head, but fuck it, I'll probably sell it. No bodies on the MP in the color I want and they want $400-$500 for them.)

$390 including shipping straight from Dollshe isn't bad.

>>5905230
oh man I'd hate to give up so easily. I'll have to keep the head bodyless for a while to see if any company will release anything thin and then if all my searching attempts fail, I'll blast my wallet and get the DC one :(
Thanks for the help though.

>>5904571
>>5905258
I got one knowing I would need to mod the shit out of it and I was still surprised by how shitty it was.

Does anyone know if Brennil/Her Delicate Strength is still around/active? Her site is still up and running but there hasn't been any activity since early this year, and the last commission thread was around this time last year.

>>5905330
Got tax money, you have no idea how hard I have been trying to stay the hell away from doll sites and the marketplace.

Gonna buy some mako eyes next pay cheque though

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>>5905404
Sorry anon :(
Some companies are a pest to hybrid, DC is one of them.

I have the same issue with Iplehouse, even if I find a head for sale (which rarely happens) there are no bodies they fit on that aren't the same size or Iple.
Wish I could get some of the male SID/EID heads on regular 70cm bodies.

>>5905648
I am so glad I dodged a bullet when our local forum had a Miro GO.
Was out of funds at that time but had planned to get one till I can afford a proper body for a head.

Fuck, people were so unhappy with the bodies they received...Miro really is a case of "you get what you pay for".
There also was lots of trouble with the GO, people had bought shoes from them too and Miro didn't manage to send the correct shoes, correct sizes, correct colors.
Took months to get that mess sorted.

>>5905330
390 for a dollshe is amazing.

In regards to impulse buys, my entire collection is an impulse buy. fml
Right now I'm dying to get a minifee boy but I'm trying to be cautious and think things over carefully if I actually like the doll or I'm forcing myself to like one because of the famous posable body.

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>>5906426
I also got a boy MNF back then (because me and girls don't really work out) and it was unnerving.
The way he stood was weird because it always seemed like his legs weren't the same length, and dressing him up was annoying because there's a lot more slim females than males out there.
Had a friend check him out who had lots of female MNFs, and they were a lot more fun to pose and work with.
Still don't know if I just got a wonky one from FL or if the boys have been ignored by FL in favour of the girls.

Still miss him a little sometimes :I

>>5905330
I'm good at keeping my impulse buys to a minimum (except doll clothes), but I impulse sold a doll a few weeks ago.

Was at a doll meet with a friend, and all of a sudden blurted out if she wanted to buy my Dollshe Hound.
He was from the pre-Dollshecraft releases (2006) and she always liked him, and I just really don't dig the face anymore.
She went from "you fucking with me" to "OH GOD YES PLEASE" in a minute, and I went home with one doll less in my collection.

Unfortunately he had an important character, but I decided to jump on a LLT Lazuli head for him and I'm very pleased about that decision.
Now just need to get an old Hound body for him.

Still own my IM Hound, but both my Hound and Saint had to go now.
Still think you will like the Bernard, and 390$ is a steal for them!
Just be prepared to wait an eternity, for my Saint I had to wait 12 months (first 50% off-event), for my IM Hound 9 months (first "ermagerd we will never ever sale them again"-event of...dunno, a million).

>>5906454
did you have the M line or the A line?

I'm seeing more reviews on the bodies and I've noticed the M line doesn't have a lot of range in the chest joint which sucks because I love the range of A line but I prefer the aesthetic of the M line. :/

>>5906631
It was an A-Line boy actually.
As said, had a friend playing with him who had lots of MNFs (just remembered that she also has guys, but they are from ye olde LUTS times and thus on the old B-Type bodies) and she also said there was something wonky with him.
As far as I've heard the female cutie legs were both not the same length either?

I did have a Chicline male body here to play with, and that was actually more fun to pose.
They just made the female MNF renewal body, so they will probably give the male one an update too.
I'm sure that would fix a few things.

>>5906225
Yeah... I was saving up for a new bow for hunting (I am scum, I know), so the money for that went into an impulse doll instead. Oh well. Maybe next year.

>>5906454
Thanks for the heads up! It's kind of funny how he does those sales. I just wanted the body to hybrid with another doll. The head I have looks really awful on the 70cm DC body and the 18m body at least has the right neck circumference.

I've been researching bodies with the proportions I want in the last few weeks and it came down to an 18m body or maybe a Soom Mecha Angel (which was 5mm thicker than what I needed).

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>>5906649
I hope they upgrade the boy bodies as well. Sorry to hear your doll had a problem :( That sounds awful desu. I'd feel really disappointed if I received a doll with wonky legs

I always wanted a Chicline Rou and the sold out label makes me shed a tear every time I visit the site.

Are there any other companies well known for having very posable bodies aside from fairyland?

>>5906684
Mr. Dollshe is seriously crazy.
No clue if he needs money that desperately, but people are still waiting for their orders from October 2015, and some of his newest creations never shipped (King Corey, Arsene, Rosa).
On top of that he started making those custom dolls (like the Leo DiCaprio), as if he hasn't enough on his plate already.

I really thought about snatching up an Oriental Skin 18M (and sell the head), but I would like to receive that body before I retire.
Waiting that long for a Dollshe twice was enough for me.

>>5906694
No problem :(
Me and MSD don't work out well anyway, but I was super grumpy that the one time I really try and went for the coolest posing one you could get...I receive one that can't stand straight.
Super frustrating.
The upper body posing was real good though, he could do lots of cool sitting poses.
Wish I had a use for a Feeple.

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>>5906716
I'm the poster for >>5906694 and sorry I don't know where the "desu" in the sentence come from. wtf what a typo.
But yeah the upper body poses I see on internet (especially the arm poses) always tempt me. They look so natural.

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>>5904473
After years and years of hopping between colors and even resin types I honestly wouldn't trust them anymore, especially with their tan/gray resin.

Give it a year and numerous batches of orders.
The new colors aren't that old yet to see if they really manage to stick to their mixture for a longer time.

>>5906746
>Not to be one of those that says "FOUND THE NEWFAG!" but....
It's a word filter that's been in place for almost a year. When you see "desu" "senpai" or they were filtered from "t.b.h." "f.a.m." when An Hiro took over. I think "baka" shows up as one, but it's not a word we commonly use here.

>>5906746
The desu replaces t-b-h- (I think), it definitely replaces some abbreviation.

test: desu

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>>5906756
Eh, not really.
I didn't get it either till someone pointed it out, because I don't use short forms and mostly skim through posts.

It's also not extreme as on other boards, I remember one where xD was turned into "I'm a faggot hump my rump".

>>5888051
>mostly women
I doubt it

>>5906767
I love the lips in the photo. What is the sculpt? I'm too stoop to find it on Ringdoll's website.

>>5908136
It's the Ringdoll Kirin:
http://www.ringdoll.com/goods.php?id=124

>>5908008
BJD hobby itself is mostly occupied women, and DDs mostly men.
So far it seemed like that was the case for the mentioned threads too (am a woman, recognize some of the posters from other plattforms...also all women).

>>5908170
Thanks dawg for the sauce

>>5908300
>>those crusty pencil lines

gross

What do yall think of AnnePecaro?

>>5905798
As far as I know, she's still good. A friend of mine ordered stuff as recently as this year.

>>5904561
>>5904571
I'm not saying their resin isn't sturdy or stable as fuck, its actually way more stable *because* of that high plastic content. But its also way lighter which can make standing and posing harder, and it lacks the skin-like texture that many higher end dolls have (which makes faceups and body blushing harder to maintain in my experience). If they could get rid of the shiny dollar store finish and give it slightly more heft it would absolutely be the best resin on the market.

>>5908300
it looks like half of her eyeliner got wiped off and the artist just looked at it and went "meh"

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ew.

>>5909291
I've seen way worse.

>>5908455
AM not active in the YT community at all, because too many recasts and most of the videos are shit.
Wish more people would put in the same effort into videos than others do into their pictures, with proper editing and nice quality.

Checked out her channel, am not fond of people who have to show their face constantly.
If I look at doll videos I am interested in the doll, not a fugly face, your kids fugly face, your messy flat or whatever.

>>5909422
>Wish more people would put in the same effort into videos than others do into their pictures, with proper editing and nice quality.

This times a million.
Jfc I don't go on youtube because have you people even HEARD of talking into the damn microphone. Talk to the damn camera. Don't whisper. O mg I get so angry at shitty audio

hell must have frozen over, fairyland released a small breasted female doll.

do you think they finally realized people aren't into giant floating balloon tits on cute immature faces?

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>>5909505
>work in office
>every get skype and shitty headsets
>have the people in the office put mic right up to their mouth, not near their chin like you're supposed to
>constant breathing in background of every call

Kill me family.

>>5909422
Oh tell me about it. A bunch of old fart grannies too lazy to properly edit simple videos (even youtube has a nice editor now. no excuse) including garbage ear-raping audio.
As you said, the recast bullshit apologists are everywhere on youtube. Even the bigger BJD youtubers support them. It's pathetic.

>>5908455
In regards to Anne, she needs to shut the fuck up about her hideous antique dumpster dive dolls and upload more story videos as she promised on her Patreon.

>>5909555
>>5909505
>>5909422
I honestly think some of them do it because they are lazy af and think it's easier.

Because, yes, the base is pretty easy.
Sit down on your ass, set camera, switch it on and start talking.
Way easier and faster than typing, taking and editing pictures, getting to know equipment and software.
Your dolls look better too, because most of them use shitty cams in low light/don't go for HD or even 4k.

It's the lazy approach of showing your dolls, for people who like to show their own face more than the dolls.

I probably would watch more videos if some of these people would actually produce high quality stuff/aim to get better at what they are doing.
Most is just low quality diary babbling from people with fugly dolls.

I don't like Andreja much, but she actually puts time and care her into her videos.
Quality is good, video/editing/grapics/sound/choice of music is on point.
I don't like her voice (personal preference), but at least she records it properly and in most of her videos she isn't visible.
Wish more people would do the same.

>>5909738

I'm the exact opposite. I love to watch YouTube bjd shit because I like to see people ramble about their dolls. I'm in this hobby to have fun not have perfect dolls and spend all my time working on photography. I think andreja is the most boring bjd youtube because she never really talks about her dolls just projects and customs shes working on. I want to know about peoples characters and passions.

>>5909776
I love the rambles and character updates too and that's the only reason I used to sit through these torturous BJD videos. I have to agree with >>5909738 that most of them produce trash quality videos. They film themselves with potato quality cameras in this day and age of HD quality phones.
What absolutely pisses me off about these videos is that these lazy youtubers don't even bother to edit out the "um", random silences, and their pet interruptions. or they go on and on about stupid family shit and their son's wedding bullshit that no one cares about.
I actually stopped watching all of the BJD youtubers for those reasons, except for Anne Pecaro and that's only to hate watch her cringy doll stories.

>>5909843

Meh to each their own I guess. The crappy quality doesn't bother me cause I probably couldn't do better, shit I don't even have a laptop so I know my if I tried to make videos they'd be poorly edited cell phone quality.

>>5909919
As you said, to each their own, but I don't understand that logic.

I can't edit and record proper videos either, but I also never tried. Photography is my thing.
But I still don't want to watch shitty videos, and you bet that if I'd ever look into making a Youtube account that I'd sit down on my ass and learn how to take good videos.
Dunno, I feel a little...insulted? when I see what kind of shit those people upload.
You (the uploader) put in zero care in something and still expect people to look at this?
At least put in a little effort.

>>5909776
I love people talking about their dolls, but those people are pure torture to listen to (especially when the recording is so bad) and...well, their dolls often look like shit and the stories usually are too.
I'd rather look at a nice picture and read what the owner wrote underneath (like godtypes on Insta does).
Is there actually one Youtube channel that has gorgeous dolls (as in, well dressed, well customized, non-recast dolls)?
Like the usual high-quality stuff you'd see on Flickr?


Andreja is a totally different type of video account, but you can't deny that the stuff she does is well made.
People can talk and be passionate about their characters without sitting in front of a shit camera, mumbling incoherent stuff with a messy flat in the background and their fugly face visible all the time.

>>5909776
>I'm in this hobby to have fun not have perfect dolls and spend all my time working on photography.

that sounds like "I don't think people who put in more than the bare minimum actually have fun".

Is it no fun for you because it's difficult?
Or because you have to do something for it?
Just trying to wrap my head around this, because I'm the total opposite.

To me the fun part is working on my dolls, creating images that are true to their story/character and tell a story.
Sure it's work, but every part of the hobby is, I guess.
No matter if I have to sit down for hours to find the perfect face-up artist, carry a big ass box home from customs or take and edit a picture.
And I don't get why someone should spend so much money on something just to let it look like shit.
Would feel like a waste of money to me not to aim for the best possible.

>>5910065

>Would feel like a waste of money to me not to aim for the best possible.

But that's just you though. I don't think anne pecaro or sight hound ladies dolls 'look like shit' theyre just average dolls. I watch them because I like to see other people enjoying the hobby the way they want to.
>To me the fun part is working on my dolls, creating images that are true to their story/character and tell a story.

I do that with my dolls too but I don't need their face ups and clothes to be perfect to have fun. If you like a challenge and want your shit to be just right and find that fun more power to you, but I like to just relax in this hobby and not waste my energy judging everyone and myself to a high standard.

>And I don't get why someone should spend so much money on something just to let it look like shit.

You probably never will understand it either. People have different standards, different goals and different tastes in this hobby. The sooner you stop trying to figure out why people enjoy things differently than you the more fun you'll have.


>>5910054

>You (the uploader) put in zero care in something and still expect people to look at this?

You make it sound like someone forced you to watch all their videos against your will or some shit. Your taking people having fun on youtube with their doll way to fucking serious if you feel 'insulted' by poor quality video. Like I'm glad you just stick to flickr if you get this butthurt over nothing.

>>5910121
Kind of have to agree with anon over here. Plus it also depends on what kind of videos you are looking for. For example if I was looking for tutorials which people clearly put out there for people to watch AND learn from them, then I expect them to at least have decent quality and also some editing. IF people are just making videos to talk about their dolls, then I consider those mostly vlogs, in which case if you expect nice quality and editing then you are a complete idiot. Vlogs are far from formal and hardly anyone puts much effort into them unless they make their money off of them (which almost no one does unless you do comedy).

Also Andreja uses the basic Mac editing music, software and video editing. Meaning that there is hundreds of people out there that have videos similar to hers, hence why now a LOT of people go with the whole "Urg, you are just copying andreja." and most youtubers are like "No, this is my fucking basic mac editing software dickhead." What andreja has is an expensive camera and a decent mic. Any video looks decent and good with a good camera, that is common sense but most people in the hobby don't care to drop $500-600 in a good camera, and don't bullshit me with the whole "A $200 camera is just as good for recording, or your phone." it isn't. Don't lie about this shit. They are okay/good for taking daily pictures but for recording they are not.

People mumbling and people being a mess, well, welcoming to Vlogs, there is a reason why people constantly make fun of them. I don't like it either, but as long as they show their dolls most of the time I don't care, because I do have to agree with people showing their faces way too fucking munch; PinotNoirIceCreamBar is a great example of how having a good camera doesn't mean shit if you are terrible at making videos but if they look nice people will still watch them. She hardly shows her dolls and is constantly only showing her face.

>>5910154
>PinotNoirIceCreamBar is a great example of how having a good camera doesn't mean shit if you are terrible at making videos but if they look nice people will still watch them. She hardly shows her dolls and is constantly only showing her face.

yes dude 100% agree. PinotNoirIceCreamBar has ok editing and good quality videos. but her actual content is shit. Also her nasty lisp grates my nerves.

My biggest pet peeve in BJD videos is that most of the videos are uploaded on 480p or even 360p like what the hell? Modern decent phone camera can record beautifully in 720p now why do these folks upload such low res videos I never know. As well as a lot of the times the videos don't talk about dolls. Most are updates about their leather journal hoarding or whatever the next trend is. If your video is titled a doll related subject, then talk about dolls people. Damnit how hard is it to understand?
Like I saw a video where a girl was doing a "tutorial" on making a BJD druid outfit and it was so embarrassingly bad. Most of the video was her complaining about the neighbour children playing outside. Like woman how about edit it out on youtube editor or a free video editing app on your phone. OR make the video some other time?
It's mind boggling how some people can't figure out simple logic.

>>5910154

You basically said what I was trying to say way better. I don't expect vlogs to be professional quality.

>>5910230

Slow Internet may play a part in why people upload low quality videos as well. When I up load a video to youtube from my phone it takes about 30 minutes for a 2 minute video in 480p to finish uploading and I can't use the Internet for anything else while it's going or it it just stops. I couldnt imagine trying to upload a 20 min video in 720p with my connection.

I live out in the middle of bum fuck nowhere and the only way to get high speed Internet is through $100 a month satellite and fuck that shit.

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Fucking dying at this. Nothing can ever top this in a sales post

How often does the mako eyes site restock? Or where can I find an alternate that is similar to the owl collection? My doll is literally sitting with no eyes, I'd like something soon.

>>5908455
I remember her pissing me off for some reason. probably because she reminded me of denali wind- a lot of dolls that all look exactly the same and talks too much about nothing.

>>5910387
You're killing me here! A blurry ass photo of a photo on a phone this is some good shit 10/10

>>5909555
>the recast bullshit apologists are everywhere on youtube
This 100%

>>5909776
Andreja is boring to watch because she herself is boring. Not because of her content. You can make tutorials and make them fun to watch.
It's the fact she has literally zero personality that makes her boring.

>>5910272
>I don't expect vlogs to be professional quality.
Considering the quality of cheap cameras, and even phone cameras, vlogging isn't an excuse for shit.

>>5910428
Usually when they catch up a bit on their orders.

>>5910428
They literally just went out of stock two days ago because they got an influx of orders.

You might have to wait a few months.

>>5893944
you could wait till she yellows a bit naturally or you could take the plunge and dye her

>>5910489
Thank you for mentioning Denali Wind. I cannot stand that woman. I especially hate her dolls.
Wasn't she the one who popularized the mori fashion for a while in the BJD community?

Since 11/11 is coming up soon, how many of you buy things on taobao for your dolls?
Any stores you like?

>>5910121
I think you highly overestimate how much I 'care'.
I don't, at all, I was honestly just curious.
I don't have friends like that/my local community isn't like that...and you really can't ask on DoA why some people make it seem like every step of their hobby is a fucking chore to them.
That's why I flat out asked here.

Like, this is your hobby.
Everything you do for it is fun, because, well...it's your hobby.
The stuff you can do because you have spare money for it, the thing you don't have to do to survive.
But some people make it seems like buying a nice wig is already so much work they'd rather keep their doll bald or pick up a dead animal from the streets.
That's what I don't get.
But just because I don't get it does not mean I care about it.
And I'm very content with how I handle the hobby.

>>5910154
I agree about the tutorial thing.
Lots of those videos are uploaded because their maker wants them to be seen.
Why can't they put in a tiny little bit of care into it?

To some degree this is true for vlogs and the like too, because if you wouldn't want them to be seen why the fuck are they on Youtube?

Not sure about the whole "good video equipment costs lots of money" thing...good photography equipment is the same.
I mean, we make fun of that anon selling their Benedict Cumberbatch and people uploading shitty pictures in general.
If you are 'serious' about photography you sooner or later will look into better equipment and how to handle it.
I just don't see that on the Youtube side, some of those people upload hundreds of videos and never even get a tiny little bit better,
even though Youtube is their thing.

>>5910387
She needs to go deeper and upload a screenshot of the FB listing into the FB listing.

>>5910387
Oh wow I'm amazed that's real. Phone pics instead of the actual doll, no description whatsoever, funky typos and super blurry on top of all that. That's not the least bit suspicious at all.

Looks like one of the mods posted on it, so unless the seller adds some info it'll probably be taken down soon enough.

>>5911290
>popularized the mori fashion
she had something to do with it but I didn't care for her execution at all. That deer crap on top of those soiled looking faceups and blushing was so ugh. Her and Anne have that same "woodsy" aesthetic.

>>5910121
Sorry, insulted is probably a little too harsh.
English is not my first language and that was the only word I could come up with that kinda fits.

It's just....people upload this.
Openly, on a website, not putting it on private and keeping comments switched on.
So, they do it because they want others to see it...else they would keep it as a private log or tutorial or whatever on their computer.

They want others to see it and comment on it, but without putting any care in it?
Their stuff is there when I try to search for videos, I click on it in hopes of finding something interesting/a helpful tutorial...but all they do is clutter up the search.
Yes, they don't force me to watch their video, but they still hope for me to do it.
I think viewers can expect that they for this can put in a little care in what they upload.

>>5911353
> deer crap on top of those soiled looking faceups and blushing

on point description of her faceups.

>>5911390
>>5911330

I'm sorry if I came off a little harsh too, but I just get so tired of the 'help me understand why people like/do x'

It just comes off as so disengenious, like on /toy 99% of people who ask this question really mean 'justify your tastes to me' which is such a pointless thing to ask. Nobody has to justify the shit they do in this hobby to anyone unless it's actively hurting another hobby member. What's the point of asking why people like what they do when the usual response on 4chan is 'well your taste is shit, stop liking what I don't like!'

I like watching people's shitty vlogs doll videos. I follow denaliwind, anne pecaro and sight hound lady because I like their 'shitty' stories and subpar faceups and all that jazz. I like to see what their up to and follow their ramblings because if I were making videos that's what they'd be like. Im not looking for fancy tutorials and I don't think shit like wine a dollies needs to be in 4k for me to enjoy it. You can accuse me of having bad taste or being lazy or whatever you want but in the end those are people I choose to like. It's personal taste ,it can't be right or wrong and it doesn't need justification.

Also I noticed nobody responded to my statement about how slow video uploading can be with shitty Internet and I firmly believe that's why alot of you tubers have low quality video/audio.

>>5911455
Naw, it's cool.
As said, I was just curious because it's a mind set that's hard for me to grasp (not the, liking what you like thing, but this "putting in...effort? too much work, this can't be fun, everything is a chore, weeeh" mind set some people have).

I enjoy lots of different type of dolls/ways to customize, but my own dolls only look a certain way.
I know I have high expectations, but eh.
Time is limited, and I just prefer looking at nice, carefully made things and honor people who put in thought/time/money/care compared to people who can barely be bothered to press "play" on a cam and expect to get comments/views for it.
But that's just me.

>>Also I noticed nobody responded to my statement about how slow video uploading can be with shitty Internet and I firmly believe that's why alot of you tubers have low quality video/audio.

I only upload videos at work, and it's pretty slow.
Even though I am living in a city in a first world country.
However, we just let the video upload the whole night.
Last person to be in the office uploads it, and usually in the morning it's up and running in great quality.
Does it take a whole night? Yes.
But we're asleep/not in the office, so who cares.

So unless it's so slow/unstable you can't upload a few minutes of video in a whole night the whole "internet is bad" excuse doesn't work out.
Unless your computer is so shitty you don't dare letting it run for a few hours.

>>5910272
Might be a phone issue too?
I'm sure that if I'd try uploading via my phone it would take a lot longer than via desktop too, even if both access the same connection.

I do think it can be a reason, but honestly?
There are so many BJD Youtubers with shit videos, like the majority of them, not everyone of them can live in bumfuck country.
And bad editing/no editing, "uuuuhm", messy backgrounds, mindless non doll-related rambling in a supposedly doll-related video and all that other jazz can't be excused by a bad connection.
Yes,the bare video/sound quality can be bad because of that, but the rest not.

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>>5911390
>>5911455
>>5911510
>apologizing
Holy shit. Insult-chan must be on vacation from /bjd/. Thanks for working it out maturely, rather than
>r u fucking stupid???

On subject, I do have the same issues with internet out in the boonies. If I want to upload videos, I usually go to work to do it too. None of mine are /bjd/ related, though. I agree that if you want an audience, you need to be good at what you're doing-- or at least entertaining. I know we think Andreja is pretty lackluster, but she's at least presented her things well enough to attract attention from people not in the hobby.

>>5910940
Motherfucker. I thought I was going crazy because I could have sworn everything was in stock the other day but I wanted to wait for my next pay. Being responsible never pays off in this hobby.

>>5911957
UM I'm still here bitch, >>5910154 sometimes I too can be wise Papa sloth.

Now back to subject

Also my statement about vlogs, still stands. It is a way for people to mostly find friends and quality has always been kinda irrelevant. Also anons are are forgetting that a lot of blogs are filmed with laptops not necessarily a camera. Either way there are are lot of reasons why YouTube quality can go bad, but it does mostly have to do with having are weak signal and not uploading from a router itself. Most cellphones have HD if you use the back camera not the front camera, in which case I would be kinda hard to maneuver unless you buy special equipment for your phone and again that is too much effort for vlogs. Yes, they put videos out there for people to watch but no one is going to invest time nor effort or money into something until they start to see a return, aka YouTube money. Right now all of those channels are pretty much giving you complete free content with the crappy equipment they have. I would love for people to have better quality videos but that's just the sad truth. No one is going to put the effort unless there is a reason, and it seems the reason for most bjd youtubers is just finding friends, and they can do that with crappy videos too.

>tfw you want to marry another doll collector so you can have double the dolls

>>5912081
Gold digger detected

>>5912081
dont do it anon mine is super elitist and wont let me touch his dolls

Speaking of the Youtube stuff, are how-to videos for sewing or wig styling a thing? I haven't really looked but was considering doing it. I've done live-chat things for crafts and tend to do a POV camera angle looking down at the desk. Makes more sense than having it look at my face?

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>>5912281

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>>5912081
I-I'm single anon..

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>>5912292
Where are you located
>>5912281
Just because of elitism? Not because he's scared you'll harm them or something?

>>5912338
Mostly joking when I say that, but pretty much yeah. We got into the hobby right at the same time and met after being into it a few years, so we have the same experience level and knowledge. But my first few were cheaper than his and I still have them out of sentimental value so he likes to sass me about 'inferior resins tainting my hands' when I ask to handle one of his girls. We literally have the same tastes in companies now and have even bought the same dolls.

>>5912081
my partner and I have that kind of set up going on :)

>>5912081
I did it, but she just has a million anthros and won't let me but the DC spider sheep thing.
Disappoint.
Roommate has a lot of pretty ones, though.

>>5912059
>>Yes, they put videos out there for people to watch but no one is going to invest time nor effort or money into something until they start to see a return

...on the photography side people provide quality content for free and also buy proper equipment/put in time without getting any money for it.
Heck, if you look at some of the DD photographers (like Azure) you'll see they even travel around to take nice pictures.
And I doubt none of them is having fun, in case of some of the DD guys they even travel together, and I am sure they met through their hobby too.

So those people provide nice stuff for free with expensive equipment they bought and learned to use, but we should cut the video people some slack since they don't get paid?
Honestly, if that truly is the case why so many of them are lazy (i.e. "well, I don't get paid") it makes me like them even less.
I can accept general laziness or even the internet connection is shit, but the payment argument is rubbish when so many people in other aspects of the hobby provide quality content for free.

>>5912281
Me and my fiancee collect too, and they think I don't want them to touch my dolls.
I never said that, but she's pretty afraid of handling her own ones too and I guess she thinks I assume she would damage mine with her clumsiness.

>>5912081
Good: can share clothes/wigs/eyes when needed, you can easily trade, when both of you are good at different crafty stuff you can combine that, you always have a doll friend to discuss doll stuff with

Bad: sucks when both of you have a different style/way to approach things (and can't get over it), space issues, two people who need to keep their spending in check, sucks when one gets something the other was unable to get (especially when it ends in jealousy).

Oh, and shit can get awkward when you split, especially when you have shared doll stories/shared your stuff with each other.

>>5912743
>I can accept general laziness or even the internet connection is shit, but the payment argument is rubbish when so many people in other aspects of the hobby provide quality content for free.

Just adding, before someone picks it up: no, I don't think I am entitled to free quality content.
I am glad people post gorgeous pictures to look at without letting others pay for it.

I just think the whole argument is a little silly, because everyone else provides their stuff for free, but video people are special and deserve to be paid before they provide something nice?
Especially because I am sure those people enjoy the free content provided by others, have looked at gorgeous doll pictures, have used free and well made tutorials etc. without having paid a cent for that either.

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I'm in a great mood. I got this adorable magic time Skylark head for a steal. Now I just gotta get the perfect pink wig and a cute fairy or elf outfit for it.

>>5912838
I hope you give that poor thing a new pair of eyes too, cause currently it looks like a deer in front of a car.

>>5912761
>have used free and well made tutorials

Can I just hop on this to say how much it angers me when people want money for their tutorials? Not talking about people who do that for a living and have a professional website, but other collectors who keep their stuff behind a pay-wall.

I get it, making tutorials is a lot of work, be it text/pictures or a full video.
However, a community/hobby NEEDS people who share their knowledge, answer questions and help out newcomers for free. Just imagine if those people wouldn't be out there. How difficult it would be to get into the hobby, how many artists never would have started attempting something because there would be no freely available information about how to do thing X.
And it makes me especially angry because each and everyone of those people has profited from others being kind enough to share their knowledge. They read free tutorials, posted their questions for others to answer and benefited from the mistakes others made and decided to share so others could avoid them from the start.
And then they turn around and expect people to pay for something they got for free from anyone else?
Fuck that. I hope that won't become more and more popular.

>>5912928
New eyes are planned for sure. It's just wearing a pair of spares at the moment. Eyeless dolls are 2spook for me.

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>>5912945
It can be fun. Takes resting bitch face straight into posessed evil queen territory.

>>5912743
But you are making the choice to provide that content and for starters you don't have to provide it, you are not doing anyone a favor for doing it. That is your choice, if you are taking good pics that's on you, that's what you want to do. If you want to be fucking extra that you reach the moon, that's on YOU, most people that provide nice, quality pics do it because that's what attracted them to the hobby; the photography and the dolls. Most people that do YouTube videos however DID NOT join the hobby because they were interested in making videos, they just saw it as a way to make friends in the hobby as well. It is not that complicated to get. Photography and bjd have always gone hand on hand, always, videos and bjd on the other hand have not. YouTube is just another social media site for them to make friends with, and they just happened to own as laptop and a cheap camera to be able to jump into it. Comparing photography to videos in this hobby is a no brainer, photography is always going to be far superior, as it has always been also main focus in the hobby, while making videos is still relatively new (back in the day people did 1 video a year so really doesn't count). In a few years I'm sure more people will get into it but as of now, it is not gonna happen.

>>5912761
I like how this got so sidetracked to "urg YouTube people want money, disgusting". No, that was not the main point. The point was that YouTube can give you money to get better equipment, but until you have that extra money coming from that platform, I doubt people will be willing to buy nice equipment to make better videos. That's how most youtubers start. Andreja bought a crapton of new equipment with her YouTube money, which is why her videos are even nicer now, at first they were basic but now you can see how the quality has highly increased. Plus she was lucky enough to already own editing equipment because of her job.

>>5911455
>Also I noticed nobody responded to my statement about how slow video uploading can be with shitty Internet and I firmly believe that's why alot of you tubers have low quality video/audio.
Well I can't comment on this because I'm in a first world country, but I do have a shitty internet connection by my country standards, and it takes about half an hour to upload a 9min in full HD. Which I do when I shower or exercise or something
And on top of that, I have access to my schools uni where I upload a 10 minute full HD in... maybe 2 minutes
So without being a btich, this doesn't sound like a good enough excuse to me.

>>5911290
Ughh Denali Wind. Boring. Dirty, stained faceups. Recast Neutral. What's not to hate.

>>5910387
I am embarrassed to be part of this community.

>>5912928
Exactly why I won't support BJD'ers on Patreon, especially Andreja. You're doing this "for fun, because you love this hobby" ... but you want us to pay for it?

>>5912983
Can you please suck my soul, Mistress?

>>5913031

Basically a lot of people on here just hate certain youtube personalities. They're doing the exact thing I pointed out earlier in the thread by trying to get everyone to justify why they like what they like by posting counter arguments to something that is entirely personal preference. So basically 4chan as per usual.

>>5913037
>Well I can't comment on this because I'm in a first world country, but I do have a shitty internet connection by my country standards, and it takes about half an hour to upload a 9min in full HD. Which I do when I shower or exercise or something
And on top of that, I have access to my schools uni where I upload a 10 minute full HD in... maybe 2 minutes
So without being a btich, this doesn't sound like a good enough excuse to me.

It doesn't have to sound like a good enough excuse for you its fucking reality. I'm in rural America and I don't think a night goes by that my Internet doesn't experience service disruptions. Verizon recently transferred over their rural service to another company because they couldn't be assed to deal with it so now it's even worse.

>wah wah people make money from youtube and doll tutorials!

I don't like andreja at all but all I have to say about that is welcome to capitalism bitch.

>>5913024
>>5913031
That still doesn't change that the basic argument (YT people are shit because they get/have no money to be better) is silly.

Everyhwere else other people get better without getting money for it beforehand.
In all other parts of the hobby people manage to create good content with their own funds, without getting money from their produced content and so on.
It still doesn't make sense that only on the Youtube side of things you guys go all "WELL, they don't get money, how should they be good??!".

Andreja is a bit of a silly comparison here because she always had the will to produce good stuff.
I bet if she got zero cents from YT she would have still looked into better equipment.

>>5913024
>Most people that do YouTube videos however DID NOT join the hobby because they were interested in making videos, they just saw it as a way to make friends in the hobby as well

Pretty much this. Where is everybody getting that they 'expect' to be paid for it

>>5912761
>
I just think the whole argument is a little silly, because everyone else provides their stuff for free, but video people are special and deserve to be paid before they provide something nice?

Literally no one on youtube said they deserved to be paid for their shitty videos but you. You are projecting entitlement on people.

>>5913105
To quote the other anon
>>no one is going to invest time nor effort or money into something until they start to see a return

They came up with that bullshit, and I just showed that this is simply not true for any other part of the hobby (like, photography).
So, where did they get this idea?

I doubt myself that this is truly the case why the YT content is so shit.
Which is the reason I keep on saying it's a silly argument.

>>5913117
or to clarify it even more: I don't believe that YTs are truly like that, but I want to know why anon thinks this argument makes sense and why it apparently only applies to the YT comm.

>>5913117
Photography people get recognition and a massive portfolio. They also sell prints (some of them) and gain exposure which is what any photographer wants. If you are a bad photographer and don't get this that's your problem. Faceup people gain recognition as well which allows them to buy even better tools and open more slots, the same can be said with wig people and clothing people. They all put more into it because they are gaining a return. Some people just do I because of their ego. YouTube literally gets almost nothing but a friend circle unless the person is already in other social media and just happened to join YouTube like andreja to gain more publicity. The YouTube community is so small that there are no standards to it, yet you are holding it to standards of the hobby that have been around for ages. It makes no sense, specially when you hardly gain any exposure with YouTube, the only thing you gain in this hobby from YouTube is YouTube money, which allows you to buy better equipment. That's all there is to it.

Not saying all hobby people are like this, some hobby people are slobs and they are not in youtube, they are just into it for the social aspect and the dolls....like a lot of YouTube people, who you apparently believe are making content for everyone but in reality, it is mostly for a close group of friends.

Not everything out there is made to please everyone, get off your high horse. The vast majority of bjd owners are hardly average, acting like everyone puts SO much effort into everything they do is seriously a lie in this hobby.

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>>5905330
yeah. I bought my SD boy a set of clothes

>>5913117
>no one is going to invest time nor effort or money into something until they start to see a return

Am I the only one who puts effort in for the sake of my own outward appearance?
I mean in terms of quality of things, if I make a vlog, in addition to HD quality, I make sure compositionally everything is sound, and spend the time post processing so everything looks good? Coz I don't want shit content to my name?

Am I a minority? A lot of people in this hobby seem to be happy with looking cheap.

>>5914085
You are not anon, however that is your return; You get satisfaction off of your own work, while most people need positive reinforcement in order to do better. I hardly upload my stuff because as long as I know I'm doing a good job and it looks amazing, then that's all I need, but I understand people that don't care to do better if they don't gain recognition, or don't seen an investment. It is something extremely normal that most people seem to forget, even outside the hobby.

Now moving away from this youtube topic, but still staying in youtube! Can the junky spot stop giving shit for free to any doll collector out there that might not even care to own a bjd? I watch a lot of doll videos outside bjd vids, and jesus, the junky spot keeps sending them free crap as long as they have a handful of subscribers, yet the channel might not even be bjd related at all, just doll related. This is why we have so many wanna-be-bjd-owenrs that get salty when people are like, "well you own a plastic bjd, but honestly the majority of the bjd owners don't care for them, so, whatever." I understand wanting free publicity but damn, have some damn price, or is it because they know bjd channels won't want the crap they send?

>>5914267
> most people need positive reinforcement in order to do better
That's kind of sad.
One of the main faults I have with the hobby, actually. Most people seem so externally motivated that I wonder if they even actually enjoy their dolls :(

>>5914507
What exactly is 'enjoying their doll'?

Perhaps its making shitty youtube videos?
Perhaps its making cringe face-ups?

They just might be enjoying their dolls.

>>5912838
Etsuko Miura that shit.

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>>5914507
Yes and no anon. A lot of the people join the hobby because of all the different things you can do, not just the dolls. You can sew clothes, photography, do face-ups, make wigs, do tattoos, have great OC and so on, but this hobby is without a doubt very much about art. Almost everything is related to it, and like any other artists a lot of BJD people need that positive reinforcement, no matter what platform they pick. It doesn't mean you need it 100% of the time, but having it sure as hell helps a lot. Most artists can probably agree with this, it is another form of motivation to do better, but I don't think non-artists people in the hobby get this (hell some artists themselves don't get it for some odd reason), instead they expect people to do better just for the sake of being better, but being good at something requires a lot of effort and motivation, you can't just summon that will on its own unless you already have a good opportunity to do great since the beginning. Not to mention people are very different from one another. This motivation doesn't mean they just want to be famous, just acknowledged for the fact that they are at least trying, even if we can all agree a lot of it can look like shit. I think of newbies (or people in this hobby over all) like little kids with ugly drawings that want their parents to tell them they are trying and they can get better. It doesn't have to be someone super superior, but just people that are also in this hobby over all.

Yeah you get shitty artists and people that get stuck, but if they love what they are doing then that's great, but I'm sure a nice comment here and there makes them feel even better.

I don't know.., that's my two cents. I just like seeing people starting at zero and slowly growing, I like to motivate them for that reason. Even if it can look like complete shit, I'm not babying them, just trying to motivate them to grow and there's a huge difference in between the two.

>>5914267
Yeah I hate junky spot for that reason. And I bet the requirement for these freebies is to have a positive biased review. I have yet to see anyone (especailly Asenva) have a single negative thing to say about any of the dolls/items and I bet it's because otherwise JS won't send anything to them again in the future. It's like the beauty guru community all over again.

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>>5914846
Oh I get this 100%. I would like to think I'm an artist so I understand losing motivation and finding oneself stagnating, but I'm always a bit confused-emoji about the people who seem to get to 15% and be satisfied. YOU HAVE SO MUCH POTENTIAL.
To relate this back to videos i made a bunch of different videos in different locations in my house until I found one where the lighting is good and everything is quiet.. But a lot of BJDYoutubers just sit in their bed with a lamp on and you can barely see them, or hear them so I get confused.

But I'm all for people growing, I think it's a personal thing that I don't understand people who stagnate and then settle. I don't think I'll ever be satisfied with anything I do, so it's probably just because we function differently. SHRUG.

>Unrelated
but is anyone else surpried Fairyland released different fullsets so close to one another?
I know other companies release frequently but FL usually only does paired ones and then a while between each set... Iunno. Maybe it's just me

>>5914976
I was kinda annoyed they released them so close, to be honest. I was going to get the witch but I stopped when I just kept seeing the Sia face over and over and I already owned one so, it was pointless. I did however pre-order the bunny girl, so I'm kinda glad I didn't buy the witch but it still put a dent in my wallet because I joined a split for the wings and horns.

>>5914267
>>5914847

My data cap is to low to watch rando doll videos, but it sort of makes sense. If >90% of what you sell is lowest quality chinashit, <$10 worth of free crap is like an insurance policy against angry people filing charge backs or making ranty videos. And somebody might buy a $40 Bobobie head if they already have the wig and eyes.

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You pay Dollshe $50,000 US Eaglebux or whatever the fuck he was asking to sculpt you a doll.

This is what he sculpts you.

What do you do, /bjd/?