Warhammer 40k general /40kg/

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>>55248376
First for the Omnisiah.

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For Guilliman's Xenos GF

>>55248408
What is it with GW and those outrageous hair cuts?

>>55248436
It's kinda their thing dude

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>>55248436
You ever been to the UK. They have the most ridculous hairdos.

By now, it is engrained.

>>55248376
Old thread is still on page 1 you fuckwit

Why does this thread exist?

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>>55248468
It is for people who dont want to talk about "muh space marines" and some dudes family life.

New thread for the xenos crew if you going to whine..

>>55248436
Elves have had ornate hairstyles in most fiction
Look at chadmarines. They just have buzzcuts pretty much

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>>55248572
How about Abaddon "the topknot removes all intimidation" the Despoiler?

>>55248613
Both he and his buddy "rocks killed me" are fairly ugly.

>>55248613
Just a shit model desu

>>55248613
Haha. I dunno man. Mongol went pretty far and they fashioned that hair style, for war, pretty much.

On a massive white guy though.... looks like a 80's video game mini boss.

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>>55248651
Not really it was bad from the beginning, it also proves that he has never seen the inside of a helmet.

>>55248687
Since the begining, he has been a try hard...

>>55248687
Or anything directly above him.

>>55248662
>people complain about boob armour
>every single female gw model has just that

Might as well be canon that girls in 40k have huge cow tits

Are the codexes interesting yet?

>>55248728
That's not a bad thing.

Is there a way to play imperial knights without being a faggot? I love the fluff but fuck if I don't want to be the asshat who puts 3 knights on the table. Do knight houses have household guard or something that I could convert to be fluffy non-knight units?

>>55248728
Emperors seed be a strong one. He probs came from Scandinavia with those cow-tit honker genes.

Fusion Blades as wargear options when?

>>55248728

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4443166/Average-breast-size-increases-three-cup-sizes-50-years.html

If this happened to the UK in just 50 years, I can only imagine what would take place by the 41st millennium.

>Reputable Source

>Scarab Occult Terminators deepstrike in behind an isolated, expensive target
>Opponent activates Chaos Familiar
>Scarab Occult Sorcerer uses Warptime, gets an 11, laughs at the 9 I got trying to deny
>full squad of Scarabs is now within ez charge range and dumps a full volley from their anti-armor bullshit bolters

please no

those eldar have families

>>55248828
Same thing happened in Japan.

>>55248766
Run with a detach of IG? Use the index, all imperium units. Coming from a chaos player fyi.

Truthfully, who cares. Play three knight, you learn quick on how big thing can die quick.

Always remember senpai, cultists hit and wound on 6's..

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Where are the bolters with chain saw bayonets from?

>>55248835
>Scarabs roll utter shit after closing into melee and fail to deal even a single wound with their power swords

....huh.

>>55248841

Seriousry Senpai? Is this the true gift of westernization?

>>55248835
I thought Scarab Occult sorcerers only knew smite?

>>55248887
forge world

>>55248896
fuck this is bad

don't they teach digitalpainters that Photoshop has more than just ONE boring-ass brush? I've seen random two-bit porn drawfags display a greater understanding of digital painting tools than some of the fuckheads hired by GW

>>55248835
As much as some people in these threads want to bitch about knights being OP it's mostly a meme, they die pretty quickly when they're focused down.

Any deldar players paint their grotesques blue to trigger tau players?

>>55248914
Chaos Familiar lets any CSM psyker swap a known power out for a different one. So the Aspiring/Scarab sorcerers can swap Smite out for anything on the Heretic Astartes psychic power list

deepstriking scarabs that suddenly know Warptime or Prescience are a hell of a drug

>>55248898
One of the bra manufacturing companies releases it's sales data each year. The distribution of Japanese bra sales sizes is shifted a couple cup sizes larger over the past 40 years.

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2017/06/15/japanese-womens-breasts-continue-to-grow-reach-historic-tipping-point-in-lingerie-makers-study
>We last sifted through the data two years ago. Since then, the trend of increasingly large busts has continued, with Triumph’s sales of A cup bras falling to a minuscule 4.1 percent of the sales total in 2016, in stark contrast to the 58.6 percent of its sales that came from A cup offerings in 1980.

How is the hellforged contemptor?

>>55248953
Oh shoot, never thought of that. That's pretty neat.

>>55248940
I will when I get some. Tau tears are a rare delicacy.

>>55248953
Holy fuck. I never thought of that. What an awesome trick. Makes me want to grab some Rubrics.

>>55248915

Urgh. Guess I can convert some.

>>55248979
bretty good
Take one with claws and flamers, and watch it chew through MEQ like they're nothing

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>>55248687
The Sons of Horus just cut holes through their helmets for their top-nots.

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>>55248936
You just aint fought one right and proper killy

>>55249015
So how do they fix the "looking directly up" issue?

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I'll ask again cause i piped up at the end of the old thread.

Made a DE list. Does my tactics actually apply to rules and all that.


Regular detach:

4 wracks with haemonculus in a venom

2x 4 wyches with agonizers and hydra gauntlets with a succubus and a archon in a raider with dark lances

Razorwing


Elite detach:

Archon

2x 5 kabalite trueborn with 3 blasters each and 2 dark lances each in a raider (6 blasters, 4 lances)

10x mandrakes

Taking away any rules i am not following if i am, for number of weapons, is this viable?

>>55249038
No need to look up when you already look down on everyone else.

>>55249038
They can't see past their shoulders, so I doubt the inability to look up really mattered to them.

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So what is the reason for the Luna Wolves changing names and colors twice? Did Horus just hate consistency?

>>55249009
Sounds good, I've got one to build and am torn as to whether it'll be imperial or chaos

>>55249103
They started out as the Luna Wolves with White, Black and Grey Power Armour. Then after Ullanor Emps renamed them to the Sons of Horus in honour of Horus, so they changed their colours, like all the Legions did when they got renamed, to Green-Grey, Black and Gold.

Then after Abaddon retook command before the First Black Crusade he renamed/rebuilt them as the Black Legion to symbolise their failure at taking Terra the first time, so they repainted their armour Black and Gold.

>>55249103
The first was gift from the Emperor, the second was Abby throwing a shit-fit.

Anyone ever order custom dice from Chessex? Can you choose what colors your dice are or do they have presets? I'm mostly talking about the 2-colored swirly or "Gemini" style.

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>>55249160
Its been quite some time but they let you choose what to go with as long as they have it as an available combination iirc. Just ask them if you're not sure.

Draigo, Voldus, or Chaplain to go with Paladins?
And should I put them in a Land Raider or deep strike them?
How should I outfit a Venerable Dreadnought?

>>55249186
Oh my yes. I want a set of the NL one. I was wondering if there was a way to get a lightning effect throughout the die, but probably not

>>55248953
has this been confirmed to be legal?

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>>55249186
Sweeeeet. I'm looking to get about 36 for my DE with <MY DUDES> Kabal symbol on it. They're painted in the Kabal of the Black Heart colors so they'll look similar to those Necron ones, but hopefully a "blue-er" green and probably a red or gold symbol.

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>>55248376
We will return

>>55249218
Yes, the rulebook says it's legal and the FAQ doesn't correct it.

New nid dex when? New beasties when?

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>>55249238
You already did.

>>55249257
By Novemeber

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>>55249210
Probably not throughout the whole die, though if you ask they might be able to find some way.
Good luck with that. I'm really happy my friend enjoyed the NLs dice too
>>55249232
Oh, nice. Chessex seemed pretty good with speed and ordering, though the process took a few weeks. Hope you're able to get some nice dice!
They're even prettier in person.

>>55249257
Book by the end of November.

New models probably not for awhile, unless they release the new Genestealer sculpts with this.

>>55249250
do you take a detachment of CSM in addition to 1k sons?

>>55248521
Dont be a faggot.
It was about a bunch if other shit

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OCTARIUS WILL WAAAGH! AGAIN

>>55248965
God is good.

>>55248940
Lmao, that's brilliant

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>>55249238
When you make your comeback we wanna be right beside you, dude

>>55248965
You are a true hero

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>>55249062

So, what do you expect DG Legion Trait to be, anons? They already have Disgustingly Resilient, mind.

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Finally added this (Big Guy) in preperation for the DG release

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>>55249432
its going to be something to do with despair and morale, i fucking know it.

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>55249432
-1 to hit them in melee

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thinking of using a custodes telemon as a GK grandmaster in a dreadknight, can anybody do a recolor in silver to see if it would look kuhl?

Anyone got any good suggestions for aftermarket cultists? I would covert some from AM but by the time I buy all the shit for em It'd be just as expensive as buying the price gouged little fuck sticks offa ebay.

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Speaking of upcoming legion traits, what do you fellow TS players think ours will be?
Please note, a legion trait isn't a psychic dread or more Tzeentch models to use. Stop it anon, I know you want those things.

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Relictors anon, still messing around with lists. This is using the chaos codex instead, I like the daemon weapons a lot more but the rest feels a little flat. Thoughts?

1000 point battalion

Chaos Lord with Plasma Pistol and Black Mace

Exalted Champ with Bolt Pistol and Murder Sword

Terminator Sorcerer with Combi Melta and Force Sword

Terminators with Combi Bolters and Power Fists x 5

Chosen with Combi Plasma x 5 155

Chaos Space Marines x 5 with 1 Missile Launcher

Chaos Space Marines x 5 with 1 Missile Launcher

Chaos Space Marines x 5 with 1 Lascannon

>>55248965
I wonder if it has to do with the increasing presence of estrogen in water sources. My uninformed scientific guess is that more estrogen = more breast development.

Hey need to start a new army as i'm selling my guard, what seems fun? if it helps with suggestions i'm kinda a lore junkey

>>55249573
Eldar

>>55249573
maybe an elite, fast, or tough army? dark eldar are very different from guard

New to 8th. Hell new to the game but love the lore. Wanna play nids and get into 40k with friends and just want to ask. Are they fun to play? I'm into in your face armies and the gribblies ook good at that.

>>55249606
Yes nids can actually be pretty fun to play again, finally.

>>55249456

Tell me oh anon. Tell me how to git gud at painting.

>>55249541
Looks rad and fluffy

>>55249584
i've never seen eldar played, are they any good at blob killing? thats the meta for my store rn -_-

Helmet Dreads are a fucking stupid concept because the whole point of a dread is that there's a mortally wounded pilot inside a sarcophagus. A helmeted dread just looks like a big robot.

>>55249650
I agree. Forge World dreads are cancer and Contemptors especially look like retarded fucking potatoes even outside of the stupid helmet. Thank fuck the Redemptor went back to basics.

>>55249456
that looks like ass, and not in a good nurgly way

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>>55249650
I assumed the helmet was just a fancy outlet for optical sensors linked to the dude in the coffin
THIS one however...

>>55249664
>Thinks contemptors look crap
>Likes the redemptor

holy shit
I'll remember to reuse this bait later

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>>55249502

>>55249628
Im not good. I spray painted the thing white after 4 months of planning to pait it piece meal because FUCK THE METAL PARTS YOU CANT REACH THEM. Then i spent a month agonize over how to convert it. Then i wanted to add the trophy rack and panicked and made the shitty looking tentacle meat pole which looks grubby. Then i fucked up because of how I held it and having put it together caused the white paint to clump and cover a lot of detail. Then i fucked up a lot on the drip and rust effects and just left it because fuck it i was tired. Then after EVERYTHING was done, and by everything i mean slamming unthinned leadbelcher into tight corners for over 3 hours hoping not to break recasted resin, i ran 2 coats of white over EVERY single slip of my brushes which there were many of using really dirty water. Finally i soaked it in half a pot of agrax eargshade and called it done. Now i need to seal it because i chipped the paint twice with my nails.

>>55249674
It's not bait, you have shit taste.

Contemptors fat pear bodies literally look like a Mr Potato Head.

Redemptor has issues but it's better than the FW shitpiles.

>>55249674
not same guy but the redemptor is a fucking masterpiece. the legs actually look functional and the fist looks like it could actually grab and hold things

>>55249687
This is actually just objectively wrong though
Are you actually blind?

>>55249554
There's that, and there's the fact that caloric intake per day is way up for Japanese women between then and now. So Japan is not only following suit with the rest of the world in increasing bust size, but also catching up in weight. Combination of those two is driving an incredibly fast increase in bust sizes.

>>55249679
Papa Nurgle is very forgiving.

>>55249670
no, it's literally just a helmet stuck on a guy's head - look at the venerable dreadnought plastic kit.

>>55249702
Praise America for the gift of busty asians

>>55249698
It's actually objectively right and you're a fucking retard. Contemptors are hot garbage and the plebian newfags who eat up the HH dreads and marines and buy those supremely shitty Calth sets are cancer. The irony that those same people tend to be the ones who talk shit about the new Primaris stuff (some of which are actually shit, granted) is just rich.

>>55249522
>tfw I just realized that I want Predator with twinlinked Soulreaper sponsons and quad Soulreaper main gun

Please make that a thing GW.

Also, +1invu will be the trait.

The grey knights are so fucking badass, reading their rulebook now

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Does anyone else think it is weird that orks have to moral check? Why do chaos units have to aswell?

>>55249678
>
emperor bless u anon

>>55249522
>what do you fellow TS players think ours will be?
+1 on Psychic tests, same as Grey Knights.

>>55249722
>Also, +1invu will be the trait.
You're retarded if you believe this.

>>55249737
Chaos marines know that they either live to become a daemon prince or their souls are consumed by the dark gods.

Not exactly a good reason to stay in a losing fight.

>>55249679
A painted model always looks better than an unpainted one dude.

>>55249757
I had thought they came back as a daemon if they died? That makes sense, though.

>>55249716
The redemptors are pear shaped as fuck, with beer guts spilling out, and yet somehow lacks any feeling of bulk in the design, and look like ass
Compared to a contemptor, which is bulky and sturdy, and is actually a nice model to look at

Nice strawman at the end too

>>55249737
I think "morale checks" should be a thing that each race handles the same in terms of dice, but suffers differently from if they fail. Get rid of things like fearless that just makes some units not care about morale and give each race a unique failure state. When orks fail morale, maybe they automatically move directly towards the closest enemy unit and either shoot or charge depending on the klan.

>>55249750
>Legion Trait that doesn't benefit Tzaangors or Hellbrutes

Are you actually retarded, fuckface?

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>>55249775

>>55249761
Go to the WIP thread and say that with a straight face

I want to get one of those cleaved open possessed Contemptors and make it look nurgly to go with my DG.

But how was that model called? Is it FW?

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>>55248940

My Talos has a blue hue to its skin for this reason.

Holy shit guys i just read up on the grey knights and they fucking rule. Psyched about the set i just ordered to paint

>>55249768
>The redemptors are pear shaped as fuck
No, they're boxy like the Castaferrums, with upperset outer box segments between the central sarcophagus and shoulders, instead of the stupid slimming upper section of the rounded dumpy Contemptors, which is what creates the pear-shape. The "beer gut" doesn't look like a gut at all, it looks like a nose on a cockpit, because the guys who designed the Redemptor were smart and didn't give it a retarded helmet to make it look like a robot, it looks like an enclosed vehicle instead. Also it has way more bulk than the Contemptor, you are literally just straight up lying because you bought retarded FW shit and are stuck with sunk cost fallacy.

>>55249801
The word bearer one? I think its like the mal, ghorak or something

>>55249801
Mhara Gal Tainted Dreadnought, and yes, it is.

>>55249778
>thinking it will just because the others do in a different codex

Kaldor Draigo = officially most based man in all of 40k

>>55249816
>>55249820
Thanks lads

>>55249814
I disagree but then again I like all the stuff, HH and Primaris and old school.

Probably gonna kitbash a Redemptor Mortis and use Deredeo rules.

>>55249814
>it looks like a nose on a cockpit
Oh wow
You're either blind, shilling for GW, or trying to justify your shitty buy
There is no way someone could be this deluded

The contemptor is one big solid piece pretty much.
The fact that the hull is rounded instead of being split up only adds to the feeling of it being one big piece of metal

Do you even know the meaning of the term "pear shaped"?
Because the redemptor literally is pear shaped, and the contemptor isn't even close

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>>55249761
challenge accepted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3p_VuPIS2c

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Redemptor looks the best in my opinion. It literally looks like a walking tank but it's still agile enough to walk across rubble and uneven surfaces.

Helmet Dreads suck. Leave helmets to robots.

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>>55249768

>>55249860
What really gets me in that video is the baneblade.
I have a hard time fathoming who spends that kind of money on a model only to fuck it up with paint.

>>55249859
See >>55249866
You're a blind stupid fuck. This isn't even arguable, the Contemptor is objectively pear-shaped and the Redemptor objectively is the opposite.

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>>55249835

GUYS

Gw said last time on the community site that theyd put up more necromunda stuff on this teusday....well teusday just passed with only a DG spotlight and that rumor engine blade. Im calling it that THATS gonna be in necromunda

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>>55249866
>>55249879
Yeah, how convenient that you ignore the shoulders on the contemptor, but include them on the redemptor

Also, the contemptor is nothing like the fucking abomination that the redemptor is side on
No wonder GW design has hit rock bottom with this primaris line when morons like you two are eating it all up

>>55249737
Orks aren't really immune to fear. They do have that morale boost when there's a bunch of them nearby.
I did wish they would at least add a rule that allows them to bypass a morale check if they have destroyed an enemy unit in CC though.
Seeing my boys get shot to shit, but win in a fight only to then have some of them run away really sets me off.

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>>55249775
>When orks fail morale, maybe they automatically move directly towards the closest enemy unit and either shoot or charge depending on the klan.

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>>55248925

40K art reached its peak around 4th and 5th edition, and it's been in steady decline ever since. The old black and white images just convey the brutal battlefields of the far future so much better than these soulless digital images like >>55248896

>>55249926
I truly don't see anything wrong with this profile view of the Redemptor, it still looks awesome.

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>>55249926
>Yeah, how convenient that you ignore the shoulders on the contemptor, but include them on the redemptor
Except I didn't do that at all, get the dicks out of your eyes. Also note how even the shoulders on the contemptor slope in and contribute to the pear-shape, instead of out like the Redemptor.

Also your picture literally cuts lines across the model that aren't even there, jesus christ lol you're so fucking stupid.

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>>55248376
Considering adding a Primaris Lieutenant or a Chapter Champion to my army and I've got one spare CP leftover. What sounds more useful: Lieutenant with the Burning Blade or a Chapter Champion with the Burning Blade?

Are claws of the black hunt good? Are they at least better than normal claws?

>>55249938

Orks should be immune to Morale if they're in close combat. No Ork is going to leg it if they're getting stuck in.

>>55249973
Lieutenant, I guess but the teeth of terra is the better weapon anyway.

Can you autismos please fuck off with your childish argument?

>>55249982
They really need to just re-name the moral phase. GW has outright stated that the current moral phase represents more than just models running away.

>>55249969
>Silhouette is wider at the top
>pear shaped
Yeah, nah, fuck off tho

Also, the line cuts through the bottom of the body
If you are too brain dead to comprehend that the model is in fact a 3D object, and that the line runs behind the arm, then I'm not going to spoon feed you

>>55249941

You know they used to have something like this right? Orks would Mob Up when they failed Morale checks, meaning they headed for the nearest friendly Ork unit and joined up with it.

Guess the tyranid hive fleet bonuses.

>-1 to hit from 12 inches away for the sneaky brood

>>55249983
I've heard, but I currently don't have anything that actually uses a chainsword in my army unless the Primaris Lieutenant CAN take the Teeth. I know the normal one can

>>55249982
An ork is going to leg it for sure if a bunch of his m8s just got krumped by a Defiler or Dread

>>55249991
>just lying out his ass
When you get BTFO this hard, it's best to just stop posting and hope people forget about you, instead of doubling down and pretending to be more retarded.

>>55249941
Think about it, orks are supposed to be blood thirsty savages that never tire of war. Why the hell do they break and just run when they fail morale? When an ork fails morale, it should represent a total disregard for logic, tactics, and safety and the ork just going on a murderous rampage. It could be a good thing, maybe you get a few attacks off. It could potentially be exploited, knowing exactly what your opponent's unit is going to do before they do it would be a huge benefit. It would be fluffier and a lot more fun than
>dur. Da orks got scaredz and runned away.
What are some other racial morale failure states?

>>55250009
>getting BTFO
When you're presented nothing at all of substance?
Nice try bub

>>55250001
I don't need to guess, but that's not one of them

The copy-pastes from Marines to Chaos Marines was intentional, you won't see that with every faction.

>>55250008

>not climbing over the bodies of your mates to jam a grenade into a hatch

It's like you don't even want to be a Tankbusta

>>55250021
>bub
Can you please at least tone down the autismal cringe if you're going to keep shitposting because you can't admit you were wrong? Thanks.

>>55250027
When's ad mech coming out? that's the first non fag faction. We'll find out then if everything is just going to be a copy/paste.

>>55250037
Glad we've agreed you have no argument left then

>>55250044
pre-orders start the 16th.

>>55250008
A buncha gits might leg it. I'z a propa ork.

>>55250020

Well you can fluff it as tactical retreats, shirkers, dragging wounded comrades away or wounded falling to the ground. Mind you, none of that really applies to Orks; they don't go in for retreats much, they sure as hell don't shirk from a fight, they don't care if their half-wit mate Zog just got fragged and they notoriously keep fighting in the fluff even when they have taken wounds that would be fatal for other species.

Overall it's a minor thing. Frankly there's other aspects of Ork fluff that need to be represented more in the rules, like weight of firepower and deadliness of Ork weaponry. When Imperials are tossing out more bullets than an Ork army, something is wrong with the rules.

>>55250020
Why can't you understand that Orks are capable of being afraid?
You are confusing them with Khornates for some reason.

>>55250044
Tail end of this month or the start of the next, I'm not privy to exact release dates ahead of time I'm a playtester not a GW employee.

>>55250047
I'm not the one who needs any more argument nigger, I posted factual images and you posted some retarded scribblings outside the lines with a bunch of reaching and goalpost moving.

>>55250071

You playtesting Orks? Any chance of a codex release for them this year?

>>55250071
are you the guy that said hordes for everyone was a good idea?

>>55250079
No, I posted the side on lines of it, and you started screeching about the hand and how there could not possible be a line if the hand was in the way

>>55250065
An ork might not care if his mate Zog got fragged.
But if Zog, Gob, Dregg, Nibblez and Gutsmek get fragged and he is left alone on the field, he will think differently.
They don't feel pain as much as we do but they still die when killed and they can't be foightin' when they're dead.

>>55250066
yes, please side step the point I'm making some more to reinforce janky morale rules. We all LIKE it when a few dozen orks die in one shooting phase, then the rest run off from a good fight because they're scared of imp guard. HURR ORKS CAN BE SCARED. It's almost like scare units should have some kind of fear that causes enemies to recoil away from them in terror while morale represents a willingness to follow orders and work together, and unique races and motivations will lead to a disordered unit acting differently depending on their mind set.

>>55250081
I really can't talk about that.

Assume the answer is no.

>>55250090
>and you started screeching about the hand and how there could not possible be a line if the hand was in the way
What in the actual fuck are you talking about

Are you actually schizophrenic

>>55250111
>REEEE why is my headcanon not reflected in the rules

>>55250071
Oh shit, are you looted vehicle ork man?

>>55250129
You said it was bullshit because the red line went over areas there were no lines in
The only place that it went over and area without a line, is the hand

So either you were talking about the hand, or talking out of your ass
Either way, you're full of shit

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>>55248646
One, it wasn't Be'lakor no matter how hard you force meme and cry about it. I mean how many times have you tried to argue it and fail on your face?

Two, Be'lakor is the sexy as fuck. A mix of a brutal pagan monstrosity and a biblical fiend.

Three, Archaon rocks a topknot too and he is intimidating as fuck.

>>55250065
The thought is that while a tactical retreat is a sound "generic" failure state of morale, what would be some interesting alternates based on the race being played? How might a space marine react to being cut off and surrounded, facing impending doom? Would he cut and run, living to fight another day? Or might he zealously stand his ground, refusing to give up a critical location at all costs? Maybe a tactical retreat is a better fit, rather than a full route. If a space marine fails morale due to models lost, perhaps they fall back toward the nearest unit. When they reach said unit then they merge, allowing depleted units to continue to function under overwhelming odds.

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What's the best way to take scions? Air-drop suicide squad with 4 meltas?

>>55250071
You lie so poorly, codex admech was confirmed for Sept 16.

>>55249716
>Poorfag with shit taste: The post

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>>55250156
Look. Topknotted and imposing as fuck.

Unlike in 7th, you're not obligated to keep your entire Chaos Marine force undivided to use an undivided Legion's trait, right?

Alpha Legion with Khorne terminators, Slaaneshi Obliterators and Rubric Marines sounds pretty fun.

>>55250173
What? No, it isn't. The Death Guard codex comes at 16. GW doesn't release two codexes at the same time. That's against the law.

>>55250144
No, that's some bullshitting made up rumour guy.

>>55249987
You'll need to be more specific

>>55249687
If you want to talk about objective, the Redemptor is objectively a more poorly designed model - it has clashing design elements, curved and boxy, it is overly busy in its silhouette and it's comically over sized and awkwardly posed.

>>55249664
Angry poorfag detected. Back to your GI joe, fool.

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>>55250020
Orks being scared of shit and running away (especially when the Boss goes down) is a foundation tier of established canon. Their entire society is based around intimidating one another.

The real question is; Why the fuck are my Rubrics taking Morale Tests and taking casualties? I see it as the Rubrics shutting down as a connection is lost.

Sort of like how I see 'Smite' being expressed differently by every psyker.

>>55250173
No that's DG. AdMech is coming after that.

Even if AdMech has been confirmed, it's something I haven't heard about. We generally find out exact dates along with everyone else.

>>55250156
Hello carnac, your husbando was killed by rocks and you're gay

>>55250166
Plasma seems to be pretty popular atm. Depends on what you're trying to kill.

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>>55250196
See pic, weird release though, Collectors first?

>>55250071
Anything cool to share?

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>>55250148
This is the last (You) you're getting out of me, now stop getting jizz in your eyes from all the dicks you suck and consider investing in a pair of focal lenses.

>>55250221
No.

And gay only for Nightspear.

>>55249993
A mechanic which is nothing like the post I replied to
>>55250020
Orks are stupidly brave in numbers, but they're not utterly fearless war machines, especially when a bunch of other boyz get krumped near them

>>55250230
Preorders open on the 16th. Release is the 23rd.

>>55250217
>>55250196
DG releases on the 16h, AdMech starts pre-orders the same day.

>>55250230
Unfortunately I'm pretty sure the collector's edition release date is a typo.

>>55250233
>Just makes it even more pear shaped
Nice one
Really showed me

>>55249650
It's been long established that the 'helmet' is actually a sensor package sculpted to look like an Astartes head to give the venerated heroes more of a recognise presence on the field. The only retarded 'heads' that have appeared were on GW models - the 3rd/4th ed chaos dread, the venerable dread and that embarrassing abortion of a space wolf thing.

>>55250230
Oh you're right, the pre-order is the 16th. I thought the other guy was saying the release was the 16th.

As far as cool things to share, I'd say it'll be safe to start posting things in about a week.

>>55250230
Collector first. The non-collection and digital releases are the next week after 16th, at 23rd. Told you guys. GW won't release two codexes at the same time. It's against regulation.

Helmet dread make sense. Ever heard of a nice little step in evolution called a neck? Its something that lets you look at something without turning your whole body. It may not be a real head in the helmet but it contains sensors that act as the head. Facts suck don't they?

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>>55248376
Wait, you choose to fire all pistols or all non-pistols every shooting phase? Did I actually read that right? My Aggressor boner is growing in power every day

>>55250242
Yes, your bullshit lines that don't follow the model make it appear to look pear-shaped.

The actual silhouette does not.

Glad we cleared that up. Keep acting retarded about it, though, I'm sure you'll eventually be right if you keep pretending hard enough.

>>55250234
Go away carnac, >>>/lgbt/ is the other way

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>>55250244
The Murderfang head is pretty dumb. But the Wolf Skull option is choice.

>>55250238
>>55250240

Confirms Admech release date exists first off.
Second, might not be a typo, when asked the GW Facebook wasn't answering clearly. I think they might be changing to premium codices getting an earlier release date.

>>55250247

So once copies hit the wild, lame.
Nothing at all to share about Necron/Tau?

>>55250257
Contemptors don't have necks

>>55250270
>Nothing at all to share about Necron/Tau?
Tau are being worked on. GW is looking to correct some overnerfs from 7th to the index.

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>>55250261
oh yeah my B
Yeah now that I have redone the lines, it actually doesn't look like a fat beer gut at all
How could I have been so foolish
Looks exactly like the sleek nose of an aircraft
You fucking infinite mongoloid

>>55250270
I mean, I won't complain if I can get a copy of the codex a week early. It might explain why GW has started DG previews this week instead of the week leading up to the actual release. We'll see in a couple of days.

>>55249709
No, it's not. You're retarded. The terrible GW sculpts aside, look at the contemptor helm - there's no way that would fit on a regular head. It's started in the books that it's a sensor package. Stunt correct people with ignorance.

>>55250288
You all are poorfags so none of you will buy the collector editions.

>>55249650
Yes
The helmet dreads look like terminators transformed into bigger robots. Becoming generic and losing their unique flavour

>>55250282
>Tau are being worked on
I'm pretty sure everyone is being worked on? Or has someone forgotten Necrons exist? Well, all aside from those with codices released. I see you won't reveal anything. Shame.

>>55250295
It's just an extra $40

>>55250301
>I'm pretty sure everyone is being worked on?
To a greater or lesser degree, and with more or less immediate schedules.

I would hazard a guess that you will see a Tau Codex before a Necron Codex, is all I'm saying.

>>55250326
Will you atleast say what some of the high priority factions are for codices and which are... on the butt end?

>>55250275
Helmeted dreads allows freedom of movement which is objectively better than the sarcophagus dread which can only look directly forwards. Which would be like having your head grafted into your chest with no neck at all. That's the point.

>>55250364
>completely ignoring the fact that the dread has a waist that can swivel as well as a top mounted anti aircraft missile pod with it's own targeting system.

>>55250364
>what are augurs
Else Terminators wouldn't work either

>>55250381
Wear a neckbrace that doesnt allow any movement for a week, see how restrictive it really is.

>>55250405
there's a 99% dead guy in a robot and you're talking about neck braces

>>55250364
You know dreads rely on sensors right

When it comes to Grimdarkness, I think the Sarcophagus life support system strapped to a walking tank is more appealing than a helmet that just makes it look like a big generic robot.

>>55250405
You do understand the guy inside isn't sitting behind the slit, trying to look through with his own eyes, do you?

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>>55250386
Even terminators arent stuck looking forwards, even if it is slightly restrictive. See pic

>>55250188
>Archaon was given a stupid topknot
All is lost for AoS isn't it?

Has anyone been fielding lootas outside of a trukk as of yet?
The meager save of 'maybe' 5+ has kept me from doing so, but I sure could use the points for the trukk somewhere else.

And maybe generally an idea for a nice Speed Freak list?

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>>55250432
No shit. However the sensors are literally fixed forwards on the hull

>>55250326

>worried about being found out on a Malinese salt gargling board

>>55250412
You're right. We need to chop off both our arms and both legs at the waist to get the true Dreadnought experience.

>>55250438
I wonder if he ever killed anyone with that hair.

>>55250216
>The real question is; Why the fuck are my Rubrics taking Morale Tests and taking casualties?
Their cowardly hearts are the only thing that endure even after the righteous cleansing of Prospero and the destined to fail rubric

>>55249584

I just bought a DE army for this very reason (long time guard player) wanted something very different from what I do now

A Mawloc deep strikes. It cannot charge this turn.
A swarmlord casts Onslaught on it. Onslaught has a single sentence in it that reads "In addition, that unit can charge this turn"

Can the mawloc charge this turn?

It's completely subjective whether you think Sarcophagus Dreads are better than Helmet Dreads but I prefer Sarcophagus since it always reminds me that a Dread is piloted by a mortally wounded marine on life support.

Do any of you guys get the knock off primarchs off ebay? How tacky does it look having a 30-40 dollar primarch?

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>>55250452
I prefer this design myself.

>>55249059
>2x 5 kabalite trueborn with 3 blasters each and 2 dark lances each in a raider (6 blasters, 4 lances)

Not legal, you have to take a Sybarite/Dracon, and the Dracon can't take a special/heavy weapon.

>>55250496
METAL GEAR?!

>>55250492
No more tacky than having a full price Primarch. They're the same model either way, and repainting is normal if they're second hand.

>>55250459
>I wonder if he ever killed anyone with that hair.
The dreams and hopes of every warrior of chaos player to begin with.

When is IG getting new or updated models?
Or fuck anything really available in the shop?

>>55250470
Do Mawloc's have something that prevents them specifically from charging out of deep strike? Otherwise they can already charge.

>>55250528
Yes. Mawlocs have a unique deep strike rule. They can deep strike >1 inch away (compare >9 inches away for most), but cannot charge the turn they use it.

Onslaught however has that clause that says the model can charge this turn. So I'm wondering how the two rules interact.

>>55250437
Yeah, but the pauldrons and massive backthingy still require cameras of squadmates anyway.

>>55250452
>add sensors on other sides too
>???
>profit
Alternatively, handwave it with ancient technology that just works. It's not that hard.

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>>55250459
Dark Eldar>Chaos confirmed

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>>55250364
>which can only look directly forwards.

They don't look using the sarcophagus, dude. The slot there is for talking to Techmarines working on the box.

Dreads see with CAMERAS.
Seen here with one on the bottom of either side of the box, a third on the top end of the left plate, and one on each gun arm.

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Threadly reminder that Papa Nurgle loves you.

>>55250470
Special rules that deny > Special rules that allow > General rules

>>55250511
oh I am specifically talking about the 30k primarchs or generically named models that are clearly ripoffs

>>55250543
post the full rule

Tfw Death Guard are going the way of the Space Wolves.

Your units are called Plague DiseasePus, with special abilities named Infection RotWaste which uses a stratagem called Putrid CorpseBlight.

>>55250564
So that's a yes, it can charge. Gotcha.

>>55250079
>nigger
GTFO back to /pol/, it's obvious now that your a troll.

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Threadly reminder that the Changer of Ways has a plan for each and every one of you.

>>55250595
You can't say nigger now?, Nigger.

>>55250583
That's the opposite of what that means

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>>55250514
>New guard models released
>Human proportions or at least necromunda tier
>Several regiments not just cadians
>Multiple weapons options including heavy weapons
>Fully armoured guards with arms and knee protection (at least kasrkin level of armour)
>Back pack options
>Several heads options
A man can dream

>>55249541

I'd find a way to axe the termies, they just aren't worth the bang for your buck point-wise.

What are the usual limits for making counts-as models?
Having a few problems with my Admech units actually hitting anything with their rather fancy guns, but I don't particularly want to take Bitzbox Cawl's massive spidery pile of breaking in transit, let alone paint it.
If made a custom Archmagos and added a few rocks and such to a 105x70 base so that he doesn't look ENTIRELY miniscule on it, could I just use Cawl's rules for him and get my rerolls and reliable Shroudpsalm without needing to pick up Cawl himself?
The model I was thinking of is about 55mm by 45mm even if he's the right height, so he might not be exact in terms of Line of Sight.

>>55250601
>God loves change
>Rubric Marines never change

Really gets those Neurons firing.

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>>55250595

>>55250558
i always figured it was kinda both. i know the DoW games are kinda... not exactly cannon, but Thule is shown looking out through the slot in one of the cut scenes. i figure they're wired up so they can use the cameras and sensors, but they have a peep slot in case those get damaged and they need to use their OG peepers, assuming they still have any.

>>55250580
And you're gonna love it and ask for more lad

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>>55250595
Lol, this is fucking 4chan, nigger and faggot are our prefered pronouns!

>>55250201
>it is overly busy
That's the general theme of NuGW models.

>>55250595
>your
Literal nigger

>>55250616
Fucking Ahriman

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>>55249860

Looks fine to me.

>>55250616
Most embody opposites.

>>55250569
30k Primarchs should be fine for Guilliman, it looks way better, but Magnus and Morty would he kinda tiny compared to the GW models even if they bolted wings on from a Keeper of Secrets or a Plague Drone or something.

I didn't even know there were third party not! Primarchs yet. Guess it would depend on the model.

>>55250558
Psst, you mean all those camera fixed forwards on the hull?

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>>55250595

>>55250610
I'm torn because I like models and am not sure what I'd replace them with that would be fluffy.

I have a question regarding the infiltrator rule;
Yesterday the situation was as follows, opposing Tau player placed a ghostkeel about 9" from my deployment zone, now i placed a unit of fire warriors across from this ghostkeel to guard an objective.
Now would i have to deploy the firewarriors more then 12" away because of the keels infiltrator?
I didnt think so but we just rolled for it n played it like that.
Any of you know what would be correct?

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>>55250507
Blast pistol replacement for blaster trueborn to Dracon, all seems good looks like?

So 2x blast pistols, 4x blasters, 5 dark lances (including raider DL). This work out or should I just give Dracon bare bones so save points?

>>55250595
i hate niggers i hate jews i hate spics and arabs too go ahead and try to sue i got cash up the wazoo

>>55250669
you just deploy like normal.

>>55250624
t. edgy 12 year old

>>55250616
So?
Nurgle is the god of death and decay, yet when something rots it is also bursting with life.

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>>55250693

>>55250695
>Nurgle is the god of death
No, he's the God of Life, the issue is that bacteria and viruses outnumber everything else by a huge margin.

>>55250669
>Tau playing against Tau

What have we become?

Honestly, I like the Contempter's profile (or at least the Custodes ones). It makes the dreadnought look more like the robotic suit of armour worn by a mortally injured marine it is surposed to look like.

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>>55250616
They bring change to others instead, anon. Or maybe the dust inside them shifts while moving, thus causing change inside them? Their creation in itself was a change. Everything can be a bringer of change if you think hard enough.

>>55250714
Actually it was 1k tau and 1k admech vs 1k tau and 1k dark eldar.

>>55250704
not /pol/?

>>55250705
Read the complete sentence before you cherrypick.
He IS the god of death if we are talking death by disease, famine etc.

>>55250715
i agree. the only one of the dread patterns i'm not really fond of is the leviathan. it's just kinda fat lookin'.

>>55250705
isnt being self-contradictory kind of Chaos's thing in general?

Tzeentch is all about plans and change and such but his plans are mutually exclusive and contradict each other so he stagnates

Khorne is the god of senseless bloodshed and violence for violence's sake but also honor and not raising a hand against the defenseless

Nurgle has been covered

Slaanesh is about delicious hedonism but indulging deadens your senses so you can barely feel anything, let alone feel excess

>>55250714
no mirror matches allowed or something?

>>55250686
If you're planning on kiting the whole game the pistols are a waste, but if you have a few points to spare or will want them to hold objectives as necessary then yeah, pick them up.
Don't forget the trueborn dark lances will be -1 to hit when the raider is moving. Not the end of the world but something to keep in mind.

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>>55250728
sweetie, if you think any of this is /pol/ theres no helping you.

>>55250732
>but also honor and not raising a hand against the defenseless

That's not a thing, dumbass.

>>55250731
I like the Leviathan's weapons options, but yeah, it does look rather fat. The only one I dislike is the current model for the Castraferrum, it looks too much like a box with stubby legs. I mostly like the Redemptor though, it just seems a bit too big.

>>55250755
it is, just not in 40k. honestly i think it'd make the 40k Khorne units more interesting, but because grim derp, their can't be any redeeming qualities to anyone who's evil.

>>55250732
Phone doesn't give a shit if you kill billions of defenseless, but their slaughter isn't that much worth to him

>>55250730
No, the codex says he is a god of life. He isn't about death. He is about fecundity and unrestrained growth of life.

>>55250773
i just got mine put together the other day, it's not outlandishly huge. gotta remember, it's got a substantially bigger dude in it than the regular dreads.

>>55250755
It is, Khorne punishes his followers who attack the weak and defenceless for the same reason he punishes Sorcerers, there is no honour or might in that form of combat, just cowardice.

>>55250775
>just not in 40k.

Neither in fantasy as well. Jackass fantasycucks have no place here. Leave

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>>55250788
Wrong. Khorne cares not whence the blood flows, only that it does.

For example, Khorne's con

>>55250783
Honestly if they made a "truescale" version of the Contemptor I would be all over it, the Redemptor being the only "Truescale" Dread atm is what puts me off.

>>55250781
Again you are cherrypicking, but this time from the source material.
For example, The Purge is a chaos warband that just focus on eradicating all life. Yet they worship Nurgle.

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>>55250799
Damn timer. For example, Khorne's consort hunted down the elderly and young of her own village. Khorne was most pleased with their blood being shed.

>>55250788
That's your headcanon buddy

>>55250810
it's worth noting that one band of chaos loonies doesn't really prove your point about him being a death god.

Chaos gods mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people and their worshippers reflect that

>>55250818
It's not headcanon when it's in the old editions.

>>55250810
Their views doesn't reflect Nurgle's, dumbass. They are extremist sub-faction of the Deathguard.

For example, 2nd says that among the followers of Khorne are those who are honourable. However, it's said to Khorne honour is meaningless artifice. Those who mindlessly kill in his name are the closet to the ideals of Khorne.

>>55250583
Fer fooks sake, mate.

>>55250829
If something is not canon and you state it like it is, you're headcanoning.

GW writes inconsistent lore over different books
What else is new?

>>55250842
The Purge have nothing to do with the Death Guard, dumbass

>>55250829
Nope.

I pointed a page from Realm of Chaos which is one of the oldest Chaos sources. He is a mindless killer.

But that's beside the point, jackass. Don't scurry away and point at old sources that you can't even name. Go with what the curreent lore says, you coward. And what does it say? Much like it was said in earlier editions. Khorne has no honour in his heart. Only lust for endless war and bloodshed.

>>55250728
please /kys/

>>55250860
ADB making it worst with every new book?

>>55250869
Muh ADB

Grow up faglet

>>55250861
>That was perhaps less noteworthy than it seems to Imperial minds. The warbands of the Legions, and those that declared independence from the Legions that had sired them, were forever bedecking themselves in new icons and sigils, marking new leadership, new ways of waging war, new victories. The life-reviling Purge were drawn from extremists among the Death Guard. The Steel Brethren were wayward brothers of the Iron Warriors. The Sanctified were blood-maddened sons of Lorgar. And on and on it went.

-"Black Legion"

Apologise now.

>>55250817
I miss Valkia

Khorne = heinous murder and brutal killing
Nurgle = life in death
Tzeentch = forbidden knowledge and intrigue
Slaanesh = pain and pleasure

>>55250869
ADB has written the some of the most compelling 40k stories of the last decade. Stop trying to make him the new Ward.

>>55250861
>>55250878
rekt

>>55250877
Get out Carnac, no one wants you here

>>55250887
Valkia is in AoS and appeared in the main story fighting against the Stormcast.

>>55250869
>imperiumcuck still assblasted about not being the best eva anymore

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Thoughts on a quick and hopefully fun mostly primaris list? Fluff wise the contemptor is there to give field advice to the new kids.

1000 point outrider detachment, white scars chapter tactics

Primaris Librarian with Force Sword and Stormseer Hood

Contemptor Dread with Multimelta and CCW + Storm Bolter

Hellblasters with Plasma Incinerators x 5

Inceptors with Assault Bolters x 3

Inceptors with Assault Bolters x 3

Inceptors with Assault Bolters x 3

The Inceptors drop down first turn to drown infantry in shots while kiting and the contemptor and hellblasters target armor. Not expecting it to be unbeatable but it does look fun.

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>>55250898
Muh Carnac.

Pathetic.

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I'm thinking of getting some of Grishnak's war maidens, but I don't really like their heads. Anyone have a good suggestion? I don't really need the traditional SoB haircut (actually thinking of putting some of the new House Escher heads on them if they look good), so any good female heads will do. Thinking about Statuesque Miniature's new female heads, but not sure what scale is right. I'm assuming "heroic narrow" but any anons who have experience with these might be able to tell me for sure.

>>55250877
>>55250895
>>55250904
Didn't I tell you to go back to >>>/lgbt/ carnac?

>>55250891
Slaanesh is excess, pain and pleasure are just common outlets.

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>>55250910
>>55250916
Look at these fucking cucks lmao
ADB defense squad on the loose

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Rolled 5, 6 = 11 (2d6)

>cheetahfag gets smited near instantly this time

>>55249956

> It's better because it's what I was used to growing up.

t. oldfag

I suppose you also hate the Primaris marines, any new models, and think 8th edition is an utterly broken mess, just like 7th edition.

>>55250957
Damn he took d6 mortal wounds

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>>55250993
Man, fate must be great today.

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>tfw you start typing into some online store's search engine to look for minis, and the suggestions box pops up with all the depraved shit you've looked for on porn sites

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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>55251004
I should probably make the roll.