Starfinder General /sfg/

Anyone made an editable character sheet yet?

>>54926278
Yo I wanna fuck that robot.

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>>54926348
Cute Robot Girls give me strength.

Gonna homebrew up a race of bots and then play a cute robot mechanic girl.

>>54926348
no no that is your magic teacher for the night

>>54926415
You dork that'll just make it worse.

>>54926415
So she might know a spell that'd allow us to conceive? Good!

Someone suggested backlinking to the Dead Suns leak/dump in /pgg/, which is honestly a good idea.

>>54925271
It starts from there. Spoilers ahead, yadda yadda.

So.

Topic of robots.

How would a proper PC race of robots differ from the limp-wristed effort of Androids?

>>54926564
Turn it into a Class. As you level up, you acquire funds and licenses for crazier and crazier limbs and attachments

>>54926631
Eh. Starships being level-based is wonky enough. Extending that to a class doesn't jive with me.

/sfg/ Link Repository (Starfinder): https://pastebin.com/6HjrnNZG

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Sendspace
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>>54926676
What?

>>54926631
You can kinda do that with Mechanic if you go with Exocortex.

>>54926660
You're better off accepting that you will be making 'Armored Core the Race' now than when we got drowned in people wanting to be a spider or, governor, etc.

>>54926317
I read that as "edible character sheet" and was about to ask what the fuck was wrong with you.

>>54926723
>Governor

What the heck kind of racial traits do governors have?

>>54926740
I consume my character sheets at the end of a campaign in order to gain digest the strength of my characters.

>>54926317
http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lk1d?Free-Starfinder-Character-Sheets-Download&fref=gc#46

>>54926564
They'd be a type of construct for starters. Likely with immunity to normal diseases and poisons but vulnerable software viruses and maybe EMP and electrical attacks. Instead of normal food they'd either plug into an outlet when available or consume charges off a battery that cost and weighed a comparable amount to food for biological characters out in the field.

So I had an idea for an Envoy, focused around Grappling and proximity to enemies to boost their allies attack rolls using stuff like Coordinated Shot, Get 'Em, etc. Are the bonuses you can stack up to attack rolls to aid an ally high enough to make it worth it?

>>54927218
Grappling is garbage.

>>54927351
Is it still garbage in SF?

>>54927372
It's even worse

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>>54927069

What are all the robits from Aballon doing? I've had this idea that some started constructed humanoid forms and going out to gain experience to either become like or surpass the First Ones.

I lowkey want /sfg/ to be a thing, I'm actually interested in Starfinder and I don't want to go into /pgg/ just for the main discussion to be "what role do kistunes play in your Starfinder setting fellow furries/weeaboos"

I don't mind a little anime or furfaggotry, but almost every time I go in there the big discussion going down is about a fetish, a furry race, an anime build, or all the above. I went into /pgg/ to discuss stuff about the game, but all it did was make me hate kitsunes and succeeded in making me sick of seeing catgirl pics.

>>54927710
Same. I hate the personality culture that's developed on /pgg/. I'm not sure this thread is a good idea right now, but I hope as Starfinder ages and becomes a more distinct product from Pathfinder, we can have separate regular threads and not be held to /pgg/ traditions.

>>54927699
>What are all the robits from Aballon doing?

They just sort of exist, there's some religious reverence for ruins left by their creators and a Robo-Court where Androids can go to get a 100% fair trial, but other than that? They're robutts doing robutt things.

>>54927699
According to the book?
"Culturally, most Aballonian anacites fall into one of two
ideological groups. Members of the first group, Those Who
Wait, continue to upgrade themselves and stockpile wealth and
resources in the belief that the First Ones will eventually return
and that all of Aballon must be ready to receive them when they
do. Those Who Become, on the other hand, believe their destiny
is to take on the mantle of the First Ones and colonize new worlds
themselves, aiming their robotic seedships out toward the stars. "

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>>54927759

>Friendly Robotic Colonizers
and
>Kalistrade, Robot Edition

I actually like the androids but I would have preferred a more droid-like PC race. Also there should be a level 1 Eoxian race for PC use.

>>54927699
>>54927759
So you could very well have a character that is acting as a sort of advanced scout getting a feel for where your people should go, what they are likely to deal with and building a network of contacts. This might not even interfere with adventuring since as an unaging robot you could be working on a directive to be doing that for years or decades before reporting back.

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Alright boys! Let's get some discussion going in here before the next Pathfinder thread is also a Starfinder thread!

It's clear that the system we've got in front of us is going to be a bit closer to setting agnostic than Pathfinder. There're more ways to spread out your income during progression, the game isn't tied to the rigid structure where you absolutely need certain bonuses to advance, classes aren't so much tied to concepts like deities having magic that can be flavoured freely.

With this in mind, knowing that anywhere from steampunk to space opera to tech fantasy is viable, what kind of genres are you looking forward too? What medias are you going to be using as inspiration?

>>54927809
Space Opera! Space Feudalism! Space Exploration and Colonization!

Ghost or Thief for Operative specializations?

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Metal Gear confirmed.

>>54927710
You're not alone in that regard.

Weebsune and catgirls have gone beyond boring me and into annoying.

Whatcha wanna make, anon?

>>54927883
Depends, Ghost is a bit better at combat but Thief has a neat trick if your group doesn't just do the hack-n-slash thing 24/7.

>>54927809
I'm looking forward to shipbuilding.

But a question arises regarding that.

Build points are a fairly good system for building ships, but I'm not fond of the whole 'it just levels up with you' thing.

So my question is, if you were going to put a credit/upb price on one build point, whereabouts would be a good place for it?

>>54927710
Hell, I wouldn't mind it if it was just that. Even anime and furfaggotry is better than fapping over ERP games they're not even in and worshipping the biggest NEETs on the board as "celebrities".

>>54927883
Ghost is definitely the better specialization. Until further notice, the +4 bonus on a DEX skill makes it the best trick attacking specialization and the 11th level ability gives you active narrative power, while the one on Thief assumes you're failing which makes it weaker. It's hard to judge exploits without more play information.

As a house rule, would it be better to remove the +4 on ghost, or add +4 to Daredevil and Thief?

>>54927710
>>54927735
Agreed. Like, fuck it, people can do whatever they think is fun but the /pfg/ community is so cancerous that I really want nothing to do with anything that comes from it.

>>54927978
Add it to Daredevil and Thief. Never use a stick where a carrot would do just as well.

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Friendly reminder that we have a Discord group for Starfinder discussions and campaigns.

https://discord.gg/PhGbw

>>54927938
>worshipping the biggest NEETs on the board
Who? Me?

>>54927809
I was looking forward to a Star Trek style game, but session 0 ended with me writing up a Futurama style game.

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>>54928358

Revised List of /PFG/. and now /SFG/, deities

>LG: Captain Slow, the All-Daddy
>LG: Protag, the Measured Voice
>NG: Sappy, the Guileful Mother
>NG: Wist, the Eternal Daughter
>CG: Sweagle, the Master of Memes
>CG: RgPI, the Spaghettied Queen
>LN: DHB, the Wise Homebrewer Denied His Games
>LN: Downtime, the Architect of Civilization
>N: Ceri, the Source of Secrets
>N: SillyMe, the Raiser of Gods
>CN: Sleep, the Ever-Changing
>CN: Rory, the Foolish Wolf
>LE: Disk, the Deceitful Councilor
>LE: Broodie, the Lord of Cabals
>NE: 2hu, the Banished Princess (male)
>NE: IKiD the Mistress of Lewds
>CE: Vult, the Weeping God
>CE: IDrive, the Empty One

>>54928336
Is it a good Discord?

>>54928430
Yes, hop in bro. Everyone's welcome.

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How do we REALLY fix the envoy and solarian?

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POST CHARACTER INSPIRATIONS
>Envoy with Idol theme

>>54928430
it's a fairly quiet one; honestly, I'd say that's a good thing.

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>>54928486
I would give them both 1/3 spells and a soldier companion.

Infected by catgirls already.

>>54928574
Jeez. I went and watched that again a couple days ago! In the cinema no less! They had some showings for the 20th anniversary.

>>54928414

>lists Sweagle and Vult but not Btran and Selvgard
>Sappy as NG

Get the fuck out of here!

>>54928414
>no pantheons

We need PANTHEONS

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>>54928637
>not wanting a cute thread
just embrace it anon-kun

>>54928486
>>54928607
I'm opposed to giving them spell progression. Any changes to accommodate them should impact the class identity as little as possible, both in regards to flavour and in regards to mechanical options.

I've been running playtests and while they are definitely on the weak side, I don't think either class needs as much help as most people do.
Solarian at least will have fine functionality with some numbers adjustment, and I might add some features as house rules at 5th and 15th.
Envoy definitely needs a bit, but I've had one in every game I've been a part of so far and while the performance is poor, the playstyle is satisfying and spell casting would introduce issues to it.

>>54928685
Then give us an idea for a pantheon, you dork!

>>54928414
You should probably continue that discussion over at >>54927673
I think it'd be more relevant there.

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>>54928685
Time for a new /SF/ pantheon! The gap happened and new deities emerge, old deities fade.

>>54928743
So is the Envoy like that one shit job which is essential to making the party run smoothly, but nobody wants to take it? Is it actually that essential? Or even that useful?

>>54928658
Btran would be a swedish trickster god

Selvgard the lurker in the dark, the eternal watcher

anyone have a copy of the /PGG/ map?

>>54928658
>Btran
>Selvgard

Literally fucking who?

>>54928860
It does nothing an operative can't handle.

>>54927710
im honestly just here for the space ships

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>>54928862

some oldfags that summerfags are worshipping as celebrities

its best not to get involved

>>54928882
Give other people actions.

>>54928860
The envoy is weak and a party doesn't need one, but I haven't had a single player complain about how it feels to play. The fact of the matter is that you're not really that good of a skill monkey, and your combat capabilities will be weak, but it's still a natural face class and the playstyle gives you fun abilities and varied turns on their action economy.

They do need a buff, but a lot of people are taking it the wrong way. Right now it's true that any party will probably benefit more from having a damage dealing operative or mechanic, even if they already have one of each, on their party line-up. Suggestions like giving them spellcasting changes their identity though and discourages you from using the interesting options they do have, which have a strong flavour and interesting interactions.

>>54928917
How fucking old are they, I've been around since the beginning of the memegames and I dunno who they are.

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>>54928714
When will we have space kitsune?

>>54928981
Check /ppg/, they already had a space kitsune build day 2 of the Starfinder leak.

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>General Thread
>Gives no information in the OP

So I've noticed it's supposed to be Space Opera in the Pathfinder universe, is this right?

Is it d20? Is it mechanically sound?

Is this shit brand new or something?

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I got some cool ideas for the game when my copy shows up.

Generally, I throw out the official setting and draft something more to my tastes, but I'll start out at least in Starfinders because I'm learning it the same time as the players. At least until it annoys me...

>>54928999
Space opera in the Pathfinder universe is right, but the system itself is more agnostic to general sci-fi than Pathfinder is to fantasy.

Still a d20 and suffers from some trappings of that and 3.X, but the core mechanics work out much better than they ever did in any version of 3.X. Unfortunately the rulebook is a rush job and there're a lot of minor errors, as well as awkward balance issues. Won't change your mind if you dislike d20 but it's less likely to frustrate you to hell like its predecessors often do.

Officially came out today, though it's been leaked for over a week.

>>54928999
It's Pathfinder fast-forwarded several centuries (or may millenia, we don't fucking know because Paizo are hacks).

It takes inspiration from shit like Firefly primarily. and yes, it's the same core system as DnD 3.5 and Pathfinder, but they've actually balanced casters for once. I'd say if you liked the mechanics of the D20 system but hated how unbalanced Pathfinder and DnD 3.5 were, it may well be worth a look.

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http://paizo.com/products/btpy9u7x?Starfinder-Society-Roleplaying-Guild-Quest-Into-the-Unknown

>mercenaries are CR 1/2 and totally unarmored, have HP 13

>tactical semi-auto pistol sucks, targets KAC, deals only 1d6 damage, pathetic increment 30 feet

>fighting totally unarmored CR 1/2 mercenary
>shoot mercenary with tactical semi-auto pistol

>CRIT!
>MAX DAMAGE CRIT!
>12 damage!

>CR 1/2 mercenary still standing with 1 HP

Why do semi-auto tactical pistols suck so much? Are they 9mm?

>>54929124
>9mm

Lol, need the stopping powah of the .45.

>>54928999
>>54929053
>It takes inspiration from shit like Firefly primarily.
id say it is very similar to the wildstar video game in theme. which is good cuz it was fun.

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>>54929124

>>54929172

Well, both Firefly and Wildstar were designed with "space western" themes.

>>54929124
i wanna fuck that foxgirl

Hope she doesn't have a dick

>>54928486

Solarian is almost simple; I'm fiddling with the idea of giving weapon solarians cha to attack and damage, and armor solarians cha to hp and ac.

As far as Envoy goes, I have... well, it's not a re-write, I'm referring to it as a 'bolt on' to their standard chassis.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b8hx7z53hJ-9JH86mksOWhVtTBNJ4k1tjN1rBBxJROE/edit?usp=sharing

>>54929302
I like that solarion fix, anon.

>>54929338

yeah; though I screwd up a bit, it's cha to ac and *saves*, not hp, hp's fine as it is I think.

>>54929358
Thats probly better.

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>>54926278
POST WHAT CHARACTER YOU WANT TO BE
ima be a android mechanic with a hoverbot AI. my hover bots name will be bubbles and it will be super cute, but also have a heavy laser canon for when it gets mad so it can atomize space douches. i will be the ship engineer and ill repair stuff with my best friend bubbles.

it will be fun.
FUN

>>54929124
Just downloaded Into the Unknown, after having to sign in and 'purchase' the free PDF to then have my name, email, and date of purchase on a free PDF.

Only Paizo would make you purchase and plaster anti-piracy measures on a fucking free PDF.

>>54929271
If she does, can I have her?

Oh hey, the Soldier gets a save-or-die. That's one way to handle the caster/martial disparity.

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>>54929509
its a carrot to get people to sign up for their site, much like how companies have free video games on their video game download services. your angry, anon, be less angry.

>>54929426
Vesk soldier: specializes in heavy weapons and explosives. Can easily act as a gunner, engineer, or pilot. Also loves tinkering on vehicles and fighter starships. Like the iconic, but smarter and more skilled.

Absalom Station just posted on pgg.

>>54929509
Into the Unknown?

>delibitating sniper talent
>uses swift action
>sniping is a full round action which eats your standard, move AND swift
>you can't snipe and use a sniping shot at the same time

Sasuga, Paizo.

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>>54929716
>sniping is a full round action which eats your standard, move AND swift
but thats wrong? the aim action consumes your move nothing else

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>>54929680
Yeah Anon, it's the link in the post that I was responding to.

>>54929716
Fucking aces.

From /pgg/, some anon provided a link to Dead Suns 1 PDF, download it before it's taken down.

https://mega.nz/#!cnxVHQpK!2tHhVXCabl5sgB5mEbKB5Wdu1VRDnA4GDTXHnPlHeMY

>>54929749
I'm not following. What is Into the Unknown?

>>54929803
https://starfinderwiki.com/sf/Into_the_Unknown

>>54929749
I see a Traveler adventure by that name, but it aint free.

>>54929716
Ya done goofed, anon.

>>54929803
A free 1st level adventure, written for the Starfinder Society Quests.

>>54929836
It's literally the link that >>54929124 gave.

http://paizo.com/products/btpy9u7x?Starfinder-Society-Roleplaying-Guild-Quest-Into-the-Unknown

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>>54929615
>>54929426

i want to be the alpha-as-hell ysoki operative that occasionally rape-fucks both your characters in-between missions

In space no one can hear you scream.

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What are some good Doctor Who plots I could steal for a group that's never seen the new series?

Thinking of some of the 11's later Dalek eps, and Colony Seraph

>>54929851
Got it. Thanks. Have the others been leaked?

>>54929916
As of now, I think only Dead Suns 1 has been leaked.

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>>54929878
but anon, androids have nothing to rape, also
>-2 str
>rape
lol

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>>54929053
>but they've actually balanced casters for once.
I am extremely skeptical about this. Pretty sure Jason Bulmahn himself denied the existence of caster supremacy and said that PF's rules were working exactly as intended.

>>54929984
>he doesn't know about the cheek pouches
bite the pillow anon

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>>54928861
here you go

someone change these over to a planetary map im too lazy lol

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This seems like totally crazy stuff.

>>54929990
They look MUCH less powerful. Also there's no casters over 6th in the game at current. Spells look good but not stupidly so.

You can also feat into magic, which I thought was super neat.

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>>54930085
>seamonster cultists
thats pretty awesome, actually. different tribes on different islands worship a different god-seamonster. somethimes the gods trespass on each other territory and fight godzilla style.

>>54928861
>>54930085

Not sure how well that would translate to a space game. Why not try something like http://swn.emichron.com/ instead?

>>54930085
Do you have the image with the Spheres of Magic trees?

>>54929956
So none of the other SF Society Scenarios?

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>>54930124
I'm still skeptical. After all the propaganda and denial, I can't see them walking it back, especially if Bulmahn is still in charge.

>Thread starts off with hopes of escaping kitsune posting and personality culture
>Immediately afterwards, Discord shows up with kitsune posting of celebs
I hate you all so much.

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>>54930159

>Not Primal Rage style

Apply yourself, anon.

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>>54930312
i thought of that immediately afterward, thank for the correction anon.

>>54930240
Well, we'll see.

But do recall that Starfinder was actively meant to step back from magic.

This isn't an issue of martial/caster, it's an issue of science/magic

>>54930278
You know it's not the discord doing shit like this, and the discord doesn't seem to give much of a shit about kitsune?

It's just twats stirring shit.

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>>54930085
Don't forget the locations of the trees

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>>54926278
everyone gets a feat at lvl 1 right?

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>>54930416
I was just about to post that

Bonus: (Planet for Starfinder) https://www.maptoglobe.com/Hkp4UgaPW

What would our PGG planet of celebrity deities be called? Where would your party land?

>>54930456
Since this is /sfg/, I was thinking people might want to rearrange the Starfinder deities instead. I know some people wanted to promote Hylax and shuffle Iomedae around.

>>54930389
The Discords are not a monolith, and perhaps the one cat-posted this thread right before the rest of the cat-posting began is a coincidence or misdirection, but there's no doubt that the prominent among some Discord aren't at fault here.

There're a lot of ways to shitpost but the celeb shit has only ever been relevant to the Discord, and more /pgg/ than it should be here. The world building project is a respectable endeavor putting aside some attention whores forcing themselves into it, but there's no business converting a barely conceptual setting meant for /pgg/ into Starfinder.

The BEST case scenario here is that there is in fact, some twat stirring shit to stop /sfg/ from being a thing, in which case I hate you for letting it get to this point. The worst case scenario is that the circlejerk has gotten bad enough that nothing remotely related to them can escape their grasps at attention, in which case I hate you for ever being born.

10/10 i mad

>>54930543
Are and can't*

I am also retarded.

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>>54930424
yes

>>54930543
>>54930563
It's just someone funposting, fampire. I'm in both Discords and they are pretty beb.

What do you like about Starfinder?

How would you feel about a 'Build A Robot' Race?

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Absalom Station has a population of 2.13 million. Why is this so pathetic a population for an entire star system's capital?

Why is every Eoxian NPC, even those outside of the Corpse Fleet, conveniently evil in both Dead Suns #1 and Into the Unknown? Is Animate Dead not supposed to be a neutral spell in Starfinder?

Why are there no less than four encounters with akatas in Dead Suns #1?

>>54930591
I hate you, but in the interest of not being a pat of the problem: outside of bad numbers the rules seem competent enough that you can't easily fuck your late progression because of some level 1 traps and the range of campaigns that can be run looks good. The system looks to keep a lot of what I like about Pathfinder, that is having wide build options or at least the framework to have them in the future, without the bloat and far less broken rules that I hated.

I actually think androids are fine. They feel robotic enough to me mechanically, and the flavour won't matter much once you've started building a campaign or characters and have room to fidget with things. I do understand why people with a full robot race, but I'd be concerned about the mechanical implications of having a construct race. I'm not sure yet how much it'd impact play at large, but the treatment of androids as bioroids is probably for the best in making sure DMs don't have to bash their heads building with it in mind.

BUT ANYWAYS, FAGGOT. HOW ABOUT YOU? DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON STARFINDER AND BUILD A ROBOTS, OR DO YOU JUST SPEND ALL YOUR TIME GOADING PEOPLE TO JERK OFF INTO THE ABYSS?

>>54930711
Because the paizo bastards cling to their racism against the undead, so of course they have to be evil.

>>54928336
>invite expired

wew

>>54930748
Well, pondering it...

A robot race is easier shit to swing in Starfinder over Path, since there's a lot more that actually affects them. Yes, you're swapping out vulnerability to things like poison, but then you're becoming vulnerable to hacking and viruses and stuff.

I don't think it's that tricky.

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>>54930814

New invite for Starfinder Discord!

https://discord.gg/YAk263j

>>54930748
If I get the new job, or if my schedule opens up, I'd like to run a game for my friends since I prefer Science Fantasy. I can choose between going hard or soft sci-fi with it without worry, and with so many species, I can make the scenes very colorful.

For example, imagine a High-Tech India or Brazil, a place with a really big river running through it, and all sorts of colorful Lamia and Reptile-folk pitching goods in the boats and by the rivers, AR drones floating overhead advertising goods and giving directions.

>Build A Robot
I'm not all that good with rules, since I tend to wing them, but being able to choose things like leg types (Humanoid, Quad, Wheeled, Hover) and them adding up to your Race bonus sounds cool to me.

>>54930814
https://discord.gg/HhQerk

>>54929426
Ysoki mechanic. Already have the sheet done. Now I'm just trying to find decent art to use because holy shit the official Ysoki art is baaaaaaaaad.

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>>54930991

Do you plan to be extremely and inexplicably popular with Russians?

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>>54930591
>How would you feel about a 'Build A Robot' Race?
there already is a robot race.....

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It occurs to me now that I don't have nearly enough maps to run a sci-fi campaign unless everything happens in terrestrial wilderness.

You guys have any decent resources?

>>54931046
Cute. But no.

Well. Maybe, considering I did take the Outlaw theme...

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>>54930991
Be a mouse!

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>>54929426
Human Icon Envoy.
A very charismatic loli who wants to overthrow her father The Emperor (leader of a totalitarian planet with only 1 religion), everyone think she cute but in true she gonna be the next Napoleon.

>>54931105
"Build a robot" would imply that you're not locked into the "humanoid with two arms, two legs, and a head" configuration. There would, I assume, be options for base shape, limbs, and so on to better represent non-humanoid robots.

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>>54926278
wait..... so you cant buy weapon proficiency with your droid feats?

wtf?

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>>54931125
That's not a mouse, that's an animu with an animal-ear headband!

>>54930991
Yeah, I got no clue the fuck's up with ysoki art. Their heads are just so damn big. Actual rats have smaller heads proportionately than that.

Here. It's not very techy, but it'd work in a pinch. Or failing that, Guoh's done some good rats beyond this, look him up.

>>54931213
What'cha on about, anon?

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>>54931108

Maybe something closer to this?

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>>54931246
no weapon proficiency
either something is wrong here or i cant read

So I've got a rework for some minor issues I have with the Solarian. What do you guys think?
>Your solar manifestation either glows or is dark depending on which stellar mode you last used
>When manifesting your solar weapon, it takes any form you want without the weird choose-at-level restriction. Damage type is still as written, though.

And I'm thinking of maybe coming up with something regarding switching between weapon and armor because as is I can find no reason to ever take armor over weapon.

>>54931276
Drones can't get weapon proficiency as a feat but instead get it as a mod, including as a free starting mod for combat drones.

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>>54931276

>>54931276
It's a mod, not a feat.

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>>54931303
>>54931322
>>54931323
well thats homosexual. i wanted to start at lvl 1 with a artillery laser hover droid

Why the hell are there no cybernetic weapon limbs? I wan to make a character with armblades or an armcannon.

>>54931388
There are. A bit pricey, but you can get quickdraw hideaway limbs for 3,050 that come with a free mount to pop out armblades and armcannons.

>>54931415
I didn't even put together that the mount was like that. I just figured it was like a stabilizer that attached to the arm. Thank you anon.

>>54927751
So Solarions and Envoys are pretty bad, right? The two charisma classes?

The psychic feats and all spell-likes are also charisma though, so does that help? Would a Phrenic Adept Envoy or Solarion be better than a vanilla one?

Detect thoughts and Augury 1/day no components or resolve point seems like they would be pretty nice for an Envoy.

>>54931451
I mean, it can be a stabilizer, but it disables use of your hands so while there's no mention of how it works, it's actually more like, and maybe more likely representing an armblade than it is some blade holder.

Go wild. Long as it doesn't fuck me too hard in WBL I definitely intend on running reploids.

>>54928607
Solarion is basically Barbarian with a Paladin weapon bond, so that's not a horrible idea.

Is this system actually playable? If I wanted to run a space adventure game, why would I pick this over Traveler or Stars Without Number?

>>54928958
They are bards without the spellcasting, and replacing bardic knowledge with investigator inspiration.

What would you suggest instead of just giving them the spellcasting back?

>>54931346
Hover drones don't have the minimum strength to reliably use heavy weapons anyway, nor can it actually fly while carrying more than 3 bulk due to it's tiny strength.

You'd have to use a combat drone. Receive small arms as the free basic proficiency, use the combat drone weapon proficiency bonus on long arms, and then spend your first mod point at level 1 on heavy weapons. But the combat drone cannot fly until level 11.

If you still wanted a hover drone, you could always take your first mod as weapon proficiency (long arms) and then equip it with a laser rifle at level 1. The hover drone doesn't get any strength from progression, and cargo rack doesn't affect weapons, so it would never be capable of using heavy weapons effectively as written. It can lift off with some of the lighter energy-based heavy weapons you can get at higher levels, but it still takes a penalty to firing them.

Your best bet to make that as soon as possible is to use a combat drone with an artillery laser,give it an armor slot, and attach a jetpack to the armor slot at level 5. The jetpack is incredibly energy hungry, so you'd have to carry a pack of batteries to keep it fed, and have the drone use legs or treads or wheels when it's not flying. But this is only until you reach level 11 and can make your drone actually fly.

>>54929537
Quivering Palm.
Enough said.

>>54931237
Oh yeah, I know this artist. I'll give the gallery a good look see.

>>54931254
A Chua could work for a passable Ysoki, I'll look for art there too. Thanks for the suggestions, Anon!

Is it just me or do the casters seem shitty and bland?

I really enjoyed the occult casting classes, but they both seem boring and pretty underpowered compared to the mechanic. Like, besides high level interplanetary teleport and a few other select spells, why wouldnt i just go mechanic and enjoy tons of free cool shit?

This is a cry for help on what the best options are for technos and mystics,
since i havent seen any and I havent had much time to look through the spell lists

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>>54931628
>If you still wanted a hover drone, you could always take your first mod as weapon proficiency (long arms) and then equip it with a laser rifle at level 1.
cant even do that. you need 2 arms to use a long arm. gheeeeeeeettoo.

i think what i will do is start out with a combat droid then blow it up at lvl 3 or something, and build a new hover laser rifle drone

>>54929537
giving the only two casters bard progression, and making Wish come from sacrificing two 6th level slots and a resolve point certainly didn't hurt.

Making sure all classes had something to do in addition to "I attack" helped too.

Reinstating AD&D-style "no concentration checks, if you're hit you just lose it" also helps immensely. That along forces a tank from "HP sponge you're not allowed to treat as expendable" to "the only thing between success and you being an effective commoner stabbed to death"

Concentration checks were a mistake.

>>54931647
The trick is that they actually get class features now.

>>54931677
well shit i cant even do that

>>54929984
there are mods for that, I'm sure. I'm patient and mechanically capable.

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>>54931744

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>>54930117
That's what I'm talking about. Stupidly high fantasy and space opera craziness, I love it.

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>>54928574

Orc Soldier or Operative who's basically turned into techno rambo. If not Orc than human.

>>54930240
Remember that in pathfinder, access to lost alientech was possible, and most alientech had capabilities on par with magic, acting as a great equalizer when available.
They were just only really available in Numeria, nearly always in awful condition, and took a lot of feats to become proficient in because it's not assumed you know how to use all that stuff.


In starfinder, you ARE that alien society. It IS assumed you know how to use it, so no feats required, and it is EVERYWHERE.

In fact, not only is it true for equipment and items, many classes (e.g. Mechanic) that would have been accomplished by casters (e.g. Summoner) are now accomplished with technology by a mundane.

This, plus magic becoming more standardized, commercialized, and accessible leads to a very blurred line between the mundane and magical.

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>>54931824
>Orc
kys
this is space now
be fun and new

>>54931863
>Fun and new

The only new race in Starfinder is Shirren. We had humans. Had kasatha. Had Lashunta. Had Androids. Had ratfolk. Had lizardfolk.

>>54931597
I haven't found something I'm happy with yet for envoys and haven't gotten to playtest any potential houserules. My issue with spellcasting is that it goes against their flavour and discourages them from using the features they do have. You'd end up with a CHA caster that's weaker at casting than the competition due to its main attribute and no relevant class features, arguably a worse spot than it's in currently.

The problems that actually need to be addressed, based off of the playtesting I've done, is that envoy isn't strong as a damage dealer, but the utility it has, while satisfying, isn't strong enough to justify using over dealing damage in most cases.

The rule of thumb for intimimancy in Pathfinder was something along the lines of shaken reducing enemy efficiency by 10%, so you should only apply it if it won't reduce your efficiency by more than that. Right now if you say that a standard action is worth half of your turn, dispiriting taunt trades half your turn for 10% of an enemy.

Basically, I think that the best way to fix the envoy is to enable better use of its features rather than "replace" them. Changing every feature would require a large rewrite, and further rewrites as supplements come out, but some extra rule like allowing improvisations on reaction could help.

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>>54931863

Fine you worthless fuck

I guess I'll fall back on my Idol Mystic than.

>>54931985
>"What can I do for you?"
JRPG fashion must be all the rage in the future

>>54932052

You can do anything with clothing made out of smart material. Besides, she would be a bit more protected when she's out adventuring.

>>54931863
Play an Ork instead, problem solved.

>>54930327
>turning tentacool into a squid
REEEEE

>removing the whiskers on gyrados and magikarp when Koi have them as well as giving it a VASTLY different head shape from the rounded head of a Koi, when the fish is VERY OBVIOUSLY based on Ogon Koi, its american name containing Carp and its japanese name being literally "Koi King."
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>54931346
it was a "mod" on Eidolons too. deal with it.

>>54932082
im sorry to say it anon, but the japs fucking suck at making scary seamonsters

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>>54932128
my entire build idea for my mechanic has been shit on, i cant even put a rifle on it. im kinda mad now. i gotta figure out something else to do. i guess ill just have to do a regular combat droid then buff it later to fly. at lest that way i can use it as a motorcycle.... WAIT I GOT IT.

instead of walking or treads, MY combat droid will use hover pads, it will be identical to walking but it still is aesthetically a hovering eyebot. i dont even care if it flys, just that it hovers.

does it work? YES IT DOES CRISIS AVERTED!
FUCK YEAH!

WHERE DOES IT SAY THE STARTING CREDITS FOR A NEW CHARACTER?

>>54932284
1000
its deep in the book under the wealth section somewhere

>>54932284
Step 8: Buy Equipment on page 16.

WBL is on 391.

>>54931596
Insert the word "maximum" before tier in the section where it says your ship's tier is equal to APL, and you're at something that runs.

>Stars is good if you like OSR
>Spelljammer is OSR too, if you don't like the future aesthetic and want medieval fantasy in space.
>Traveler is good if you like GURPS.
>GURPS also just has a module for space. It has modules for everything but ERP.
>Starfinder is good if you like 3.OGL.
>There is no 4th edition equivalent, but I guess Strike could probably handle it, as well as just 4e natively given it doesn't care about fluff, though some alterations would need to be made.
>Savage Worlds has Space 1889 and High Space, for Jules Verne/John Carter space and Mass Effect space respectively.
>Apocalypse World, Numenara, and Shadowrun need no alteration, just add ships.

That about covers it.

>>54932309
It's still a little shaky as to how upgrading the computer makes the ship harder to pilot, but it's at least better.

>>54931769
Are you suggesting that's the hole to put the "onahole with tactile senses" upgrade into, or the hole to put my dick into directly?

Either is acceptable, I'm just looking for clarification.

>>54931894
Not the same rat and lizardfolk though at all.

Also several old races have had their culture change drastically. Orcs and Drow are now teamed up and living on an abandoned Death Star, trying to decipher its secrets.

>>54932237
Not "actual flight." Just Repulsorlifts.Like a speederbike.
I like it.

Do you think theater of the mind would be viable at all in Starfinder? I usually do gridless games with my local group in other systems, but I'm planning a Starfinder campaign out now and and I don't know if it's as awkward as doing gridless Pathfinder.

>>54932237
does that make it immune to trips?

>>54932333
It's only harder to pilot if the ship isn't helping.

At which point doing anything manually in an otherwise automated system is nearly always harder than doing it in a fully manual system that expects to be interfaced manually.

>>54932455
I think it'd be probably fine.

>>54932455
It's much more important here. Some weapons are more valuable because of their range than their other stats would suggest.

It's also a good way to introduce real tension. Being suppressed by some dude/ttes while a Berserker comes at you

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>>54932458
we will just say that trips fuck up the hover pad gravometric voodoo and ti works anyway

>>54932458
wouldnt tank treads and wheels be immune to rips too

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>Paizo forums saying Str 14/Dex 14 on a melee solarian is the way to go

How full retard do the Paizo forums go?

>>54932590
what is their justification?

>>54932603
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uj3c?Building-a-Solarian-Blitz-Soldiers-need-not

>>54932627
A character mediocre at everything, nice.

>>54926278
Why did they include racial traits for Haans, Contemplatives, and Sarcesians as if they were something players should ever be playing as? Like, Goblin makes sense. They're CR1/3 and hae been a playable race before.
a CR2/CR3/CR5 race, that has no real place in society,

>>54932491
You could just tip it over
But I guess that works for repulsors too.

>>54932458
>It's only harder to pilot if the ship isn't helping.
>At which point doing anything manually in an otherwise automated system is nearly always harder than doing it in a fully manual system that expects to be interfaced manually.
I think what he is talking about is how when your party levels up, so does your ship and everything gets harder to do on that ship regardless of how you spend the points it got from leveling up. For example if you spent those extra BP to upgrade the ICM part of your ships computer (which just gives bonuses to a number of actions a round) every skill check for using your ship goes up by 2 even piloting which is entirely unrelated to what you changed on your ship.

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>>54932670
most people who play mass effect wouldn't want to play an elcor but wouldn't it be fuckin rad if you had the option anyway

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What are some cool things computers can be used for? The book says they can operate weapons, turrets, and other things with their tier as their attack bonus and tier*2.5 as their skill bonus.

Can people with low attack modifiers use computers to aim their guns for them? What should shoulder-mounted turrets operated independently by computers? What kinds of skill checks can computers realistically be used for?

>>54932458
>does that make it immune to trips?
Combat Maneuvers are melee attacks against KAC+8. EVERYTHING is effectively immune to trips.

>>54932694
I know what he's talking about.

The BP increases for buying the computer. This applies penalties to the DC. But the cumputer gives bonuses too.
The computer bonuses outstrip the penalties. But only for the tasks it is helping. Otherwise it's obviously.harder.

>>54932694
the computer can help piloting, no? sounds like an integrated system to me.

>>54932734
>tier*2.5 as their skill bonus.
wait.... wait, can you just let normal computers pilot your ship for you?
That gets around all the crazy tierx2 DCs. All you need is a computer tiered at 85% that of your ship on every station.

>>54932763
worse, Grapple is KAC+13.

>>54932790
>The computer bonuses outstrip the penalties.
Actually it doesn't. The best computer gives a max of +10 on two check per round. Going from level 1 to 20 increases the DC on ALL checks by 38. Even if we assume the bare minimum of checks of two (one piloting check and one gunnery check), account for the +19 skill ranks in piloting and assuming you max the relevant ability score (going from and 18 to 28 so +5) you are a net -4 in the hole.

>>54932790
>>54932799
>>54932864
To illustrate here is a handy visual break down of the DC versus maximum possible bonuses currently. There are tabs on the bottom for different compute levels. And I stress the +10 compute can only be used on 2 check per round, and if you have 4 people acting on a ship that's two people with out the computer bonus.

>>54932670
>Haan
>Not playing a Haan only game set during their equivalent of the neolithic revolution.

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>>54926278
>engineer class is called the "mechanic" as if some dude in a autoshop has the same level of science understanding as a university educated professional

>>54932935
I'm playing my mechanic as a redneck junk collector thank you very much.

>>54932916
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10F-R-yGim9_DYfxpjKCmwf1tD7EikKyCtekRtZ5ezhc/edit#gid=746110713
Forgot the link.

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>>54932944
>junkrat with knowledge in computer science and engineering so advanced, it exceeds anything commercially available
K

>>54932957
Sky's the limit 10 levels in, but at his level 1, "more advanced and complicated" is just fancy talk for "convoluted mess of unformatted coding".

>>54932935
They don't have to.

There's nothing saying you HAVE to put ranks in stuff like Computers, Engineering, and Physical Science.

>>54932957
>Machines make use of tape and, sometimes, literal bandaids.

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>>54926278
ok mechanics, this is the most important question you will face for your character. will you make your droid a cute droid or a scary droid?

ima go with a cute eye bot

>>54933297
I went with an Exocortex!

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>>54933311

>lashunta are supposed to be physically very attractive
>the only fuckable one in the book is the bald man on the race section

>>54933327
So I can schüt!

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>>54933297
Scary!

>>54932864
max computer only costs 200. which makes it tier 8, not 20, if you're doing "max tier is APL."

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>>54933385
show me!

>>54933391
It tier 8 you have a total of 205 BP, so that would leave you 5 BP for you ship hull, generator, engines, guns and everything else.

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what should my first feat be for a mechanic? im thinking longarms proficiency

>>54933446
>Not taking the Exocortex

>>54933472
Exocortex is shit though.

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>>54933472
>taking the exocortex

>>54933493
Eh. I'd rather be personally better rather than dick about with a drone.

Proficiencies, targeting, autohacking, drone mods for myself...

Starfinder hasn't actually said anything on what the heck Earth's been up to, has it?

>>54933493
Why?

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>>54933446
>>54933522

As far as raw mechanical efficiency is concerned, it seems to me that the most optimal mechanic build for killing people while also being a skill monkey is an android mechanic with a hover drone. Both the mechanic and the drone work towards Longarm Proficiency and Versatile Specialization/Weapon Specialization (longarms) by 3rd level, and the mechanic spams Overcharge with cheap batteries. Use an artificial personality in a brain-mounted custom rig for social skills.

This results in a two-unit firing line with a good action economy and solid damage on each hit.

I would not bother with an exocortex due to how using it *diminishes* action economy (move actions) rather than improving action economy.

>>54933522

>autohacking

The exocortex's 5th level is essentially a dead level due to how the custom rig already works.

>>54933597
That hack doesn't cost any actions. And if you're using that and hacking it yourself, you hack twice as fast.

>>54933391
>if you're doing "max tier is APL."
"Step 2: Determine tier and Build Points. If you are creating
a PC starship, determine the characters’ APL by adding
together the characters’ levels and dividing by the number
of characters. That number is their ship’s tier. If designing
enemy starships, decide the difficulty of the encounter (see
Designing Starship Encounters on page 326) and choose the
enemy ship’s tier. Once you know the tier of the ship, consult
Table 9–1: Starship Base Statistics to determine the number
of Build Points you can spend to create the starship. Note
that a starship receives a boost to its Hull Points equal to its
HP increment at tiers 4, 8, 12, 16, and 20."

The book literally tells you that you player's ship's tier should be the APL of your party.

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Give me your thoughts on these additions while I go to bed.

>>54933707
CHARMED
LIFE
BEST FEATURE IN THE GAME

>>54933717
Reactions don't eat up swifts like immediates, so it's a little bit better than the BEST FEATURE IN THE GAME.

>>54933717
Charmed Life is an ELDER MEME isn't it?

>>54933729
No it's a feature from the Swashbuckler Class. So yes it's an Elder meme.

>>54933707
>snap judgement isn't worded so as to prevent being used to attack as a reaction with Improved Get 'Em
lel

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>>54933749
>No, except yes

>>54933768
It matters not to me if feeble mortal minds cannot comprehend.

>>54933768
Goddamnit now I wanna make Rogal Dorn. Guard Soldier, probably.

Although Astartes Power Armor probably augments Strength rather than replacing it, given how beef Marines are.

>>54931211
Problem with that is that is's so easy to abuse, and if you make it so it can't be abused then it's next to worthless.

Think about the problems with Summoner Eidolon in PF, then apply them to a PC.

>>54932935
they do IN THE FUTURE

Trig used to be an upper division college subject, now they teach it in middle school.

Genetics used to be known only by scholastic monks experimenting with botany, now my niece is being taught the concept of recessive traits through magic schoolbus.

When robots become cheap as dirt and common as dogs, autoshops WILL be what professors are now.

Best I can tell, a Mechanic's Drone is basically the future man's equivalent of an armed arduino project, because if you break it own, it's just a battlebot with an AI jammed in there for good measure.

>>54933567
last (only?) time we had earth mentioned at all was Die Rasputin Die, right?

>>54933686
Did you even read my original comment?
I was saying that you can fix the rules by saying "max tier" instead of just tier, that way simpler ships keep simpler checks.

>>54934025
Yep. 1918, first world war, Rasputin Must Die was I think all we've gotten of Earth.

I also recall something about Earth being under a Divine Quarantine of some kind, so gods aren't allowed to go there anymore? It's why the Egyptian Gods upped stumps and schlepped off to Golarion.

>>54934041
Ok, that wasn't very clear. But now we are talking about changing the rules to fix the system. So as pointed out, the Tier of a ship gives you a number of BP to spend. So a Tier 8 ships has 205 points. You cannot build a functioning ship if you spend 200 of those 205 point on just that one computer. And with how the BP system progresses you will never be able to afford a computer that completely compensates for DC increase advancing your ship's Tier and still equip it with sufficient defense, offense and navigation systems so that you won't be torn apart by and NPC ship with out completely overhauling the BP system, they crew action system or both.

>>54934139
Really, the DC should just be fixed based on your ship's size and thrusters. Maybe the speed you're going at.

>>54929426
Kinda got the idea to play as a Ysoki Operative, take all the computer skills and shut things the hell down before they even start.

>>54934182
>Maybe the speed you're going at.
That's already sort of taken into account. Engines have both a speed rating and piloting modifier and the slow engines give a bonus while the fast ones give a penalty.

>>54929911
Count the shadows, That episode with the corroded Weeping Angels, The Satan Pit,and The Empty Child.

>>54933979
Spy Drones are almost literally a level 1 flying drone before the mechanic gets a hold of it, and cost twice that of a basic cruiser, 2/3 a police cruiser.
so... 27,000 in modern cash? A police car is 42K after outfitting. A cheap new car is 15K. Seems about right.

A Swift Trainer Autonomous Drone costs 15K. It's self-piloting and has a survey-grade onboard camera.

So... a good bit more astounding than a hobby project.

It's by mid-levels it's on par with the stuff MIT is doing right now in terms of impressiveness.

>>54934182
You want to know the horrifying part in this? It's not just piloting checks, it also the computer checks for scanning enemy ships, engineering checks to keep the ship running in a fight if damaged and diplomacy/intimidate checks to motivate the crew. All based off the tier of the ship regardless of what you spend those BP on.

>>54934139
>Ok, that wasn't very clear.

>>54931596
>Is this system actually playable?
>>54932309
>>>54931596
>Insert the word "maximum" before tier in the section where it says your ship's tier is equal to APL, and you're at something that runs.
>>54934041
>I was saying that you can fix the rules by saying "max tier" instead of just tier
>>54934139
>OK, THAT WASN'T VERY CLEAR.


>>54934182
>>54934269
Not just engines, Armor also affects TL and turn speed as well.

It's all already accounted for.

>>54932956
Eh, doesn't become a problem until 10, so it's fine. Nobody actually plays past 10th anyways, which is why e6 is unnecessary.

>>54934384
>>Insert the word "maximum" before tier in the section where it says your ship's tier is equal to APL, and you're at something that runs.
>>>54934041
>>I was saying that you can fix the rules by saying "max tier" instead of just tier
>>>54934139 (You)
>>OK, THAT WASN'T VERY CLEAR.

I didn't join the conversation till >>54932694 and it's sort of hard to backtrack a conversation and know who's who on an anonymous image board so it's best to try to keep posts as self contained as possible or atleast reference points you might have made earlier up thread if people don't seem to know you made them and not assume people in some way psychic.

>>54934453
>it's sort of hard to backtrack a conversation
try clicking on the little numbers next to the carets.

>>54934540
Nice work leaving out the important clause of my statement.

>>54934422
Lots of people play past 10th. Some even play past 15th.

Sorry you don't have very good GMs.

>>54934422
The first AP will go to 12th, which admittedly only a stones throw away. But to be frank if the game was not meant to function past a certain point then they should have just cut it off at that point, not release a broken rule set that stops working half way through.

Has anyone looked at how making explosives work? I can't find how much damage it does

Alright, I know name posting isn't usually appropriate, but identifying myself seems needed for this since I don't Discord.

If there are people here willing to play in a somewhat normal game, I'd like to run one. Catch is that I can only do Play by Post for several reasons.

Assuming I get interest, I'll put it together on MW with Roll20 used for maps if needed.

>>54935229
What's the premise of the game?

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>>54935229
i'd be down, what time and day? also how to contact?

>>54934041
Not the anon you're argument, but I read your original comment and I don't know what the hell you're talking about. From this end it looks like you're shouting "MAX TIER! MAX TIER! MAX TIER!" without context. I don't have access to your thoughts, could you explain what you mean?

>>54935229
Tell us about the plot!

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>>54926278
ruh roh,
some people on the piazo forums are saying that droids are shit? are they right /sfg/? please tell me they are retards

>>54935738
They are retards. A mechanic with a hover drone has likely the largest ranged DPR of all classes.

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>>54935795

>>54934025
Considering I've been reading Starfinder and playing Destiny all week, my brain took this in a very different direction.

>>54934055
Yup, Jesus was a disguised Solar.

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Who all's ready for kobolds to be garbage tier but will probably try playing one for fun anyway?

It is so much easier to be MAD in Starfinder that all the "I CANT DO EVERYTHING WITH SINGLE STAT MOMMY" shit is pure autism
I'm looking at you.

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>>54937289
>>54937289
its alot easier to be a specialist actually, since point buy is 1 for 1 now all the way up to 18.

18
16
11
10
10
8
is a fantastic statline

>>54937236
why? kobolds dont seem interesting at all. and there already is a lizard race, and there already is a small tinker race

>>54937338
Different stat pool, Pathfinder legacy race, options for cool lore and etc. I just expect them to be absolute trash fodder with -4 STR because why not just like OG Pathfinder kobolds

>>54937338
No, it is as easy to be a specialist in SF as it was in PF
Even stat arrays got a huge bonus in comparison to PF

>>54937371
what classes are MAD anyway?

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Speaking of Wildstar has anyone tried porting the species over?

>>54937407
Solarion mostly, Soldier too and Mechanic a bit
In Starfinder, everyone is a bit MAD since everyone wants to use guns which means everyone wants a decent DEX

>>54926278
I must say, that robot has fine titties.

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>>54937436
alot of them are already in
ratfolk = chua
androids = mechari
god those mechari fuckbots were smokin' super skinny and curvy at the same time

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>>54937407
>>54937444

>>54932718
I was praying an elcor marine would be added to mass effects multiplayer

>>54937436

The Draken are vicious warrior lizards with a codified sense of honor-basically the Vesk, albeit without their own imperial ambitions. The Mechari are sapient machines designed to act as ambassadors to various humanoid species and as guardians and spies for the Cassians-pretty much Androids with a more personable bent. The chua are highly intelligent rodentoids with a penchant for engineering, scientific experimentation, and extreme violence-basically more psychotic ysoki. And the Cassians are of course, human.

And I'm pretty sure the Alien Archive will have statblocks for arboreal vermin if for some reason you need an Aurin.

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How hard would it be to use the starfinder system to homebrew a starcraft campaign, I know alternate exists but it's kinda dated and porting all the new toys to it would be an endevor all its own.

>>54937561

Not very, I shouldn't think. There's undoubtedly monster statblocks that fit various zerg subspecies, and the classes and themes cover a lot of what the Terrans and Protoss have to offer, at least in terms of individual units. Might wait for the mech rules to drop if you want to get into things like Goliaths and Dragoons, though.

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>>54937528
aruin are pretty similar to the lashunta, magical pple with antenae/ears

>>54937367

Because SF has a design philosophy that all race modifiers should add up to +2, so even if you get -4 Str, expect something crazy like +4 Dex, at which point you can just put 8 points into Str and end up with 14 Str and 14 Dex, pretty standard starting values in SF for a Soldier.

>>54937583
What's the best place to put some Adventurers from 48th century Golarion who have been preserved in stasis for a Starfinder game? Where in the galaxy would be a cool place to find some archaic adventurers?

>>54937607
Absalom Station

>>54937607
Because the Planes are still a part of the setting, a group put on ice in the deep Astral comes to mind.

>>54937607

Triaxus, maybe? Perhaps they were frozen while doing an errand for Baba Yaga.

>>54937607
Put them in a ship found floating derelict in deep space. The adventurers stumbled upon an alien space ship and unknowingly locked themselves into stasis and blasted off into the infinite blackness.

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>>54926278
ANONS I CANT DECIDE
combat droid
or
hover droid

>>54937589

Yeah, but lashunta don't have -4 STR, -4 CON, -4 INT, -4 WIS, and +2 CHA.

>>54937665
Hover droid. Look in your heart anon, you know it to be true.

>>54937589
Yo I wanna fuck that redhead.

>>54937700
$10 says Sappy uses that image to apply to the first /sfg/ game.

>>54937665
Don't care to look up the source on that image, but the first thing I noticed was the little girl's book in the backpack. Now I have to decide whether to call the MiB or not.

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>>54937561
Jesus that fem protoss ass

>>54932458
>>54932481

>Trip
>You knock the target prone if it is on the ground. A target in the air instead descends 10 feet, falling prone if this causes it to fall to the ground.

So long as the hoverbot isn't floating more than 10ft off of the ground, shouldn't be a problem.

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>>54937677
hover droid
>extra arm
>laser pistol
>plasma pistol
>weapon focus

combat droid
>artillerylaser
>weapon focus
>extra armor

so more dmge and tanking vs more attack and flying

>>54937700
me too anon, me too
>>54937718
came from the wildstar general several years ago by some drawfag

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>>54937777
kys anon, starfinder goes here, pathfinder goes there, stop trying to froce a single thread. they are totally different games

>>54937716
>Busty redheaded mechanic retired from the service to pursue freelance work

I don't even care, I'd wanna waifu that.

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>>54937802
the exagerated udders in that game were amazing. the entire art style was amazing actually

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>>54926278
ok anons, i have made a table for the damage dealt by combat drones, someone make sure i did the math right please.
the combat drone is better against every EAC

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>>54938225
whoopsie i fucked up the math a bit. sorry. heres the real table

>>54938225
>>54938277
ok ima make thes tables out further, what feat should i give to a lvl 3 combat drone?

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>>54938736
looks like the combat drone is better in damage and survivability, untill lvl 6 then the hover drone is better at dmge

>>54939656
I don't think you included the +2 dex that both drones receive at level 5.

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>>54939837
you are correct,
lemme fix it

>>54939863
Disregard what I said, I re-read it and it's +1 at 4 and 7