Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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New Deathwatch codex when? Primaris flyer when?

I want Primaris Deathwatch (pic-related, not my model), and the Repulsor is too slow.

Second for don't bully NPCs.

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[childish shooty noises]

I just got this message from a mate

>I'm trying to do world eaters, with a thirster, I know I can run them as separate detachments, but where does it say all your models need to be from the same dex to be in the same detachment, otherwise you can have like Logan Grimnar as HQ and guardsmen as troops in the same detachment... I'm confused

I seem to have lost my Collectors Edition 8th book and as such cannot find the page which confirms it has to be from the same codex in each detachment. Can somebody help? Please and thanks. I'm pretty sure it doesn't say it has to be from one codex, only that it has to be a specific faction keyword.

>>54921070
Even though I hate Guardsmen I would play that list and gladly march my Orks to their death, very nice painting

>>54921071
Only have to share a keyword. But you dont get obsec if theyre not from the same subfaction.

>>54921070
Good luck.
[blows a whistle]

Astral claws, minotaurs, or red scorpions?

(Last thread gave me one vote for Astral claws but i hadnt suggest red scorpions yet)

>>54921071
>but where does it say all your models need to be from the same dex to be in the same detachment

Nowhere, they have to share the same faction keyword.

Reposting to help anon
>>54921037
They don't have to be from the same detachment, they just have to have a keyword in common. So a detachment with gaurdsmen as troops and grimnar as HQ would have to have a keyword that all those units share, which would be IMPERIUM, making it and IMPERIUM detachment.

However, if that was the case, then the detachment would miss out on bonuses that you gain from having detachments with more specific keywords, such as the stratagems an ADEPTUS ASTARTES detachment gets, or the chapter tactics a <CHAPTER> detachment gets.

>>54921071
Detatchments do not require all units to be from the same Codex, only that they share a Faction keyword.
The example you mentioned would be completely legal.

>>54921083

hey man, even though I hate Orks they are my favorite thing to hate. What are heroes without good enemies? What is a Yarrick without a Ghazghkull?

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Iron Warriors are best

Dorn is a dumb loser

ok I am converting things so I have a chaos storm eagle and a chaos drop pod for my DG. here are my options
>dump a melee hellbrute + 19 poxwalkers + dark apostle and deep strike Typhus
>foot slog the poxwalkers and Typhus and dump loads of melee plague marines behind their lines

plz help

>>54921099
if the detachment doesn't have DEATH GUARD then can Typhus still go in it? I thought some units were locked to certain groups

>>54921108
Does that mean I can put Renegade and Heretics in my CSM detachments and give them CSM buffs?

>>54921098
>>54921099
>>54921108
Thanks lads, he'll be happy.

Just read about how much cancer resin causes.

Haven't bought a FW thing and don't think I'll start. Fucking hell, how did GW think this was ok?

>>54921097
Which color scheme do you like the most. Which lore do you like the most.
Why the fuck does it matter what randos on the internet say?

>>54921117
Skip the pod, they're absolute garbage this edition. Wait until we get plague terminators to make any final decision, but you're likely gonna want to footslog the zombies

>>54921147
What about finecast, does that count?
If so
>Wew lad

>>54921147
It's even worse if you do recasts.

>>54921147
Are you huffing it? Eating it? Injecting it into your veins?
Jesus get a grip man. Fucking everything causes cancer nowadays

>>54921139
By Buffs do you mean auras? Every individual rule like that specifies the key word needed to receive the benefit of it.

>>54921058
Low quality bait

>>54921147
Is there an article or anything on this? Really curious about it.

>>54921139
as long as those buffs can actually apply to them. Lots of abilities have faction specific targeting

>>54921131
Yes, typhus can be taken in non-DG detachments, but that would make the detachment lose certian benefits.

There are exceptions to these rules, such as fabulous bill the titan killer or fallen being able to be taken in any detachment without making them lose the benefits of legion tactics.
I'm not aware of any unit that is restricted to using only one of it's keywords, I would think they would simply only have the keyword which they are restricted too.

>>54921147
Wear a mask and dont huff the shit. Problem solved.

>>54921174
Nigga you need to brush, file, bend, suck off and more to get FW shit in place.

What you think the cumulative effect of that is?

>>54921157
yeah that is what I figured. 200 pts is insane. I got the SM drop pod for 5 bucks so maybe I will just use it as parts for my stormfang to storm eagle conversion

I mainly liked the idea of dropping a huge blob of cheap stuff in their back line while the dreads and marines moved in and took potshots.

>>54921200
>not snorting your resin dust and drinking your paint water to become one with your models
You'll never win the slayer sword with that attitude.

>>54921213
Little to fucking nothing because I'm not a fucking retard

>>54921226
Only way to not be a fucking huge retard is if you don't buy FW stuff

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>>54921109

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http://www.strawpoll.me/13726914/r

pls vote

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How has everyone's hobby been going? I've been pushing out stuff at a decent rate since 8th dropped which seems the norm for my area and is a great thing over all as even guys who've always had a horde of grey or primed minis are getting stuff done, the hype is palpable.

Just finished the basing on these fire warriors and tomorrow I've got the last 20% of a hammerhead and devilfish to do.

>>54921070
Glorious WAAC faggotry at its best.

>>54921178

How is this bait, faggot?

>>54921155
its fun to get other people's opinions and to see how 40kg feels about those choices

nice digits brother

>>54921272
If it is, he's bad at winning- I would just charge the sides and lock his tanks/heavy weapons teams up. Those conscripts are doing nothing.

Why is GW pushing so much Nurgle shit?

Does anyone even like Nurgle stuff? It's boring and predictable.

>>54921280
Not falling for it.

>>54921265
>tau with a pokeball

who are they gonna catch with it?

>>54921302
I like Nurgle.
They're gross and fun to paint.

>>54921257
Someone gimmie the low down on this war?

>>54921316
Tyranids

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>>54921302
>Hating on Papa Nurgle.

>>54921316
>Necron rival appears.

>>54921272
IG are so disgusting, fitting 10 vehicles and 150 infantry in a 2k list with 12 cp isn't even hard.

>>54921302
At least they're not still acting as if Khorne is the only Chaos god there is

>>54921355
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Badab_War

basically Space marine chapter master was pissed at imperial bureaucracy and wanted to start his own space marine legion and private imperium. He enlisted the help of a few unlucky chapters who trusted him.

ended up going full on heretical and got purged by a huge combined force of space marine chapters

all combatants were space marines (not even chaos space marines until the very end) and some PDF/guard forces

>>54921302
What bothers me most isbthat it doesnt need to be predictable, there is so much more to despare and decay then rot, disiease and pestilence.

Why not whillowy beings starved by famine, or even more so, living fossiles of those fallen fully to entropy, or beings using the fire of dead stars to power their machines, entropy engines if you will.

>>54921109
Everyone enjoys seeing orks get killed. Including ork players.

>>54921386
And the space sharks were sent to warcrime the other chapters into submission

BROTH FOR THE BROTH GOD

>>54921395
The orks closest word to friend is favorite enemy

What bonuses will hive fleets have?

One will probably be synapse range.

Maybe one that allows you to roll two dice when advancing and picking the highest.

Maybe a -1 ld like the Night Lords

>>54914786

Toxicrene cleans up elite infantry since each weapon it has deals D3 damage. It can also use the toxic lash whips in other melees to help free up any unit caught in a tarpit.

>>54921302
its because the New(tm) child friendly GW wants to have sig-MARINES IN SPESS fighting ZOMBIES IN SPESS

cause parents dont get uncomfortable when its zombies that are getting murdered

>>54921380
How much use do Guard even have for CP at the moment?
>One reroll a turn...but you're putting out dozens of lascannon shots anyway
>Insane Bravery...so the three survivors of a guardsman squad can stay in melee
>Counter-Attack...so a unit of Guardsmen can strike before their time

I was sitting there working out how to fill a Brigade with Orks when I realised it probably wasn't really worth it

>>54921302
>Why is GW pushing so much Nurgle shit?

Because they have 4 Chaos gods, and they already did Tzeentch, and the End Times Nurgle stuff is not quite usable for 40K (yet)

Also, because it's a very forgiving faction for beginner painters.

>>54921386
Nice that sounds pretty fucking baller.

>>54921302
Fun to paint, and fun units

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>>54921070
Quality work on the searchlights, and on the army in general.

>>54921420
>Hive Fleets getting Chapter Trait equivelants
Doubt it. I don't even expect Orks to get clan rules.
When I see a non power-armoured faction gets such rules, I'll believe

>>54921435
and yet guardsmen are still OP this edition already because of cheap units and orders

man I hope their codex doesnt drop too soon

not because I am afraid of the WAAC overload but because I desperately want new guard models even tho I dont even play guard

>>54921257
Voted.

Man, people really do like their super edgy loyalist Khornehuskers, don't they?

>Guilliman point increase when?
>Magnus point increase when?
>Changeling point increase when?
>Celestine point increase when?
>Cawl point increase when?

>>54921464
Why would they increase cawls points cost? He's already barely worth it.

>>54921070
>childish shooty noises
who doesn't do that

>>54921453
There were two forge world books that were full of great fluff on otherwise unknown chapters and it was a morally complex war because the bad guys sometimes seemed like good guys (Lamenters) and the good guys seemed bad (Minotaurs)

>>54921427
There are units besides poxwalkers

>>54921265
Slow unfortunately, I am horribly fatigued and cant seem to focus too well so I am taking a step back. I did finish velcro'ing a nice small leather case I had and it can fit my whole 1000pts primaris battalion, only problem is that I underestimated the sound level and pull force necessary to remove said models, I might have to resort to using this technique to blend in
youtube.com/watch?v=vSK3maq8Cyk

>>54921464
If anything Bobby G needs a decrease. Them chaos and everything else tears are delicious.

>>54921200
Would wearing a paper mask do when filing?

YOU KNOW WHAT, I HOPE YOU NEVER MAKE MORE MANTICORES.... I DONT WANT THEM REEEEEEEE

>>54921463
dude there are so many tg fan favorite chapters as part of the badab war

like i cant even tell if you are referring to the carcharodons or the Minotaurs

>>54921512
Just do the filing inside a bucket of water if you want to be sure.

>>54921070
Lad what was your painting process for those bases? I like that colour

>>54921492
>t. former taufag

>>54921483
Wait moral complexity in warhammer instead of just everyone being dicks? Why cant we get this out of non marine works?

>>54921512
That, along with some decent ventilation should be sufficient. Helps if you do it outside.

One anon said he actually files and sands the parts in question underwater, which would completely mitigate any chance of dust fucking you up. Could try that.

>>54921492
>cries about tau for years
>lets keep the game unbalanced because le tears xddddd
Like pottery.

>>54921062
>Two tracks together
Is this a thing or something? Might as well get land raiders tracks if it's just for the looks

I kinda wanna run my own war campaign, but i need ideas for a good conflict for every faction to want involvement

>>54921435
Take a shadowsword reroll its shots and saves every single turn. Its only a matter of time before they get broken codex strats to spam every turn as well.

>>54921535
You say this, but when ADB dares to portray Chaos as anything other than generic edgelords everybody losed their minds.

>>54921464
Same time Ork Boyz go up to 9ppm sweetie.

>>54921555
I like marines and imperium but some inperium fags are just assholes who want to be king of the hill forever. They dont want balance they just want it to be about them, its why they write of xenos as npc races, because it threatens their perception as the main character of the setting, truely a fabrige ego

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>>54921302
I'd prefer Slaanesh. Having a hard time finding bits from which to make my Noise marines from.

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Anybody use these?

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>>54921533

>base coat of Tallarn Sand or something similar, like Zandri Desert
>wash with agrax
>drybrush with mid tone like Zandri dust or karak stone
>very light drybrush with ushati bone, flayed one flesh, or white

>>54921213
http://www.screwfix.com/p/3m-4251-maintenance-free-organic-vapour-particulate-respirator-ffa1p2rd/13038

Enjoy your cancer-free modelling
>inb4 you can afford forgeworld but can't spare £20 for a respirator

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>>54921574
>>54921574
>what are Leviathan Dreads
>what are Thunderfire Cannons

>>54921573
Thats because he didnt make chaos better, he made the enperor worse, chaos is still pure assholes but now hes made it so the emperor was never any better, thats not complex, thats just making all options equally bad, if anything its less complex then a black and white morality because there is nothing resembling a right answer, only wrong ones.

>>54921584
Unfortunately you'll probably be last.
With Nurgle being the next campaign for AOS they'll probably go for Warzone: Armageddon for Angryron and his World Eaters next.

>>54921265

Going decently, right now I'm putting together some counts-as Electropriests with the huge Kataphron claws, Rustie and Skitarii heads and such on Kairic Acolyte bodies. With a little greenstuffing to make the bits fit and removing some details to make them look more servitory and less Tzeenchy it looks pretty good, although I'm keeping the flame trim on the robes because I think it might be cool to have it there as a Forge Guard marking.

>>54920618

Even standard Defilers have been pretty bad AFAIK, played against one yesterday and even with the whole autocannons/battle cannon setup, some Presciences and never moving towards my board edge it managed to wound one Kataphron which I then healed up again. I mean, he had bad luck with missing all 6 of his battlecannon shots and such, but that's pretty bad for what, 125 points? How much is a defiler?

>>54921592
that a griffin?

>>54921583
The natural conclusion of a faction's playerbase being mostly composed of children and manchildren. They then project everything at the chaosfags in their extreme lack of self awareness.

No wonder they get shitposted at.

>>54921070
You have parts of your models hanging off the board edge. Illegal/10

>>54921592
I used 2 my last game. They really didn't do too much. I'd rather have the bucket of dice that quad launchers give

>>54921649
almost

>>54921652
In fairness ive seen many chaos fags just as bad but their issue is trickier, they keep "winning" but never feel likebit because the wins are handed to them in lore to make them feel like a threat while gameplay in tournies has them lose more often, not helped by troll chaos players declaring wins for order anyway

>>54921603
>what are Thunderfire Cannons
>121 points for 8 HB shots
at least say something good like scout bikes.

>>54921662
Think as long as the "base" ain't over it's golden. If it were the treads I'd see where you were coming from.

>>54921633
Like 200 kitted out

>>54921603
Thunderfires aren't so great at Boy Removal any more

My personal pick for the job would actually be Heavy Bolter Centurions of all things

>>54921618
Which is actually a good way of promoting the other factions since people are no longer forced to choose imperium because of their morality. But that's assuming what you said is true which it isn't, after Black Legion no one can really claim Abaddon was ever evil.

>>54921492
shouldn't you be climbing in league now?

>>54921689
Excuse me?

>>54921633
Defilers are garbage, anything that requires you to burn a CP to even do something is not worth the cost.

Take Predators for shooting and Blood Slaughterers for melee. All dinobots are shit.

>>54921573
that's cause ADB is a hack who goes overboard with trying to make the guys covered in fucking decapitated civilian heads, poop, daemon titties, bird beaks, and spikes everywhere seem relate-able.

chaos can be non edgy when its the 1ksons falling to chaos or other non cartoony villains trying to be reasonable

but some chaos needs to just be flat out evil and not try because it comes off as weird and contrived

>>54921706
Konor is already taken care of!

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How does this sound for a 500pt chaos list?
×1 Exalted Champion w/Elixir and two chainswords (7 S5 attacks rerolling to wound)
×1 Dark Apostle
×10 cultists w/Autoguns
x10 cultists w/Autoguns
x10 cultists w/CCWs and flamer
x10 cultists w/CCWs and flamer

>>54921709
I think he means all the I wanna play the good guy moral fags. Which I have seen a staggering amount of over the years.
>" I can't even pretend to stoop that low! Not even with plastic army men!"

>>54921713
>anything thats not just marines spiky edition sucks
God dammit

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So, what kind of loadout does one give to his Assault Marines at 1000 points? A flamer and two lightning claws/chainswords to mulch hordes, or plasma, thunderhammer and melta bomb to make a suicide attack towards vehicles/monsters?

>>54921738
assault squads don't have damage output to take out vehicles, use them for hordes

>>54921716
Bruh.

How does this look

Confirmed
> Mortarion
> plague marine box
> artillery tank
> Terminators ( dual-kit of Deathshroud, and Grave Wardens)
> Palanquin for AoS got confirmed today ( morticulus is the character, but epidemius might be an option)
> Accountant plague marine ( maybe a upgrade on the Plague Marine sprue)

Guesses
>typhus
> more AoS shit like either human sized blighttkings, or fantasy poxwalkers
> great unclean one/ special character guo ( though nurgle will already have 3 big kits, and 2 vehicles)

>>54921716
>2 brothers and a horde of devoted followers
Sounds cool

>>54921714
You, i like you, anyone wanting to make morally complex chaos could do well to read the black crusade books, as they focus on getting into the head space of a chaos follower, often the lower dregs who just wanted a better deal, and even shows some standout places with better standards of living from most imperial worlds.

>>54921562
only contrived mcguffins can bring all the factions together

try sticking to running a campaign with only two different keyword forces like imperium/eldar, chaos/orks, tyranids/chaos

or even add a third army to the mix like imperium/orks/chaos (Armageddon)

otherwise it just seems weird like in dawn of war where fucking everyone is fighting over some "artifact"

>>54921265
Well, everything else seems to be going smooth (except for spray-primer messups I never seem to notice until I brought my minis inside to paint, and I am not doing the whole two minute shake for one small spot on one mini)
I think I may need to hand-primer my Hive Tyrant though.

>>54921676
Chaos players bitch because until our codex came out, all our "victories" were extremely phirric and riddled with incompetence (see fall of cadia and WoM) on the Chaos side with plot armor and deus ex machinas for the imperials which often ended up in innaceptable levels of casualtied and only counted as "victories" because GW said they were, since they definetly felt like something else.

The main problem is that the faction for some reason attracts a LOT of shitposters, though I'm not sure why.

>>54921731
If you want to be chaos on the grey side make youre own, or maybe try certain flavors of Alpha legion, Thoudand sons or even fallen, but if you want to make world eaters or emperor's children "cool guys" you're an idiot

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>>54921456

Thanks. The lights are just stand-ins until I get something more attractive, but I'm having a hard time finding a good substitute.

Some of this stuff looks good, but I have no idea what the scaling is and if it will work with 40k or not.

https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace/?tag=searchlight&s=0#more-products

>>54921754
> tzeentch, slaanesh, and Khorne on suicide watch.

goddamn they are making a lot of nurgle kits.

>>54921166
Finecast was developed in an old GW partnership to create a non toxic and bendy/durable resin.

GW could have just made normal resin. Finecast was a long time development to create a product that was safe for kids to work with.

>>54921716
Tempestor prime w/ command rod
10 scions with 2 flamers
10 scions with 2 grenade launchers
Crassus armored assault transport w/ 4 heavy bolters

I stopped playing 40k about five years ago and have heard that it sucks now. The rapid succession of two rule books after 4th edition reinforces this impression. Am I wrong? Kinda thinking about getting back into this time and money pit.

>>54921764
yea exactly

like in the 41st millennium it makes perfect sense for your average citizen/pdf to want to fall to chaos for a slightly better enslavement

but when the fucking arch-traitor genocidal tyrants are supposed to be morally not straight up evil, it just seems stupid

like you can defend Hitler's tyrannical behaviors but you really cant fucking make guy's like Heinrich Himmler seem at all sane or rational

if that metaphore makes sense

>>54921813
It's better now than it has been since 5th, everyone can agree on that.

>Festering Gush
>North America

I need more reaction images....

>>54921257
Voted Star Phantoms
Because I play them and they dealt the final blow in the war

>>54921813
>It sucks now
8th is the best thing that could have possibly happened to 40k, you might have been getting your news from a butthurt taudar spammer

>>54921803
So you're saying it lacks something to deal with long-range harrassers. This is true.
Granted the list you made is pretty much tailored to counter my own, which doesn't normally happen in a casual setting.

Depending on the level of cover I could still get to the scions with perhaps half my cultists intact, and HQs still alive. The exalted champion also gets mortal wounds in 6s thanks to his warlord trait.

>>54921813
Dark imperium has been divisive, i like it but people dont all like the streamlining of rules or new lore progress. Which goes as such

>bel tan is gone, ynnead us sort of awake
>cadia fell
>big bobby g is awake now with help of eldar
>bobby and his ad mech buddy open up some new super duper better marines and start a new crusade to keep the imperium from falling apart

>>54921813

I just played my first 8th edition game last night and have to say the game is better than it has been at least since 4th edition. We lost some depth, but also an immense amount of bloat, needless complexity that added nothing, and ambiguity that created disputes. The same is still deep enough to be fun, and stripped of all that baggage is easy without being too simple.

Also, this is the first time the entire model range has been rebalanced all at once, so despite its flaws it's as close to fair as it's ever been, imo.

>>54921713
>requires you to burn a CP to even do something is not worth the cost.

>having a target to use overpowered demonforge on
>somehow a bad thing
Twin Las+BC with demonforge does about 50% more damage vs t7 than a las pred. 5++, 14w, regen, scourge and claws melee is just bonus.

>>54921849
>long ranged
18" guns aren't long ranged. They need the tank to get into range without dying
>tailed to counter yours
This is my entire scion army minus Greyfax and 10 additional scions

>>54921713
False.

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>>54921737
>Blood Slaughterers are marine shit
Excuse me?

>>54921947
Oh, i dont count forge world because im not the owner of my own planet

>>54921058
Thunderhawk or Stormbird, no seriously. They're quite good.

Otherwise, deathwatch primaris are hard mode: you lose access to predators and other useful vehicles that can shore up your weaknesses.

>>54921976
>not being given the title of planetary governor after finding a lost STC fragment

fucking poorfags

>>54921737
The only things that suck in the codex are drakes, fiends, mutilators, and warp talons.

>>54921147
Long term exposure to the particulate can.

That's not "I buy recasts once a month" long term, that's "I work in resin production full time" long term

>>54921213
File it in a bowl of water, no dust.

>>54921786
Kek how are insane Berzerker warriors with no concept of fear and no ranged weapons who still manage to rip the shit out of everyone they face not cool as fuck?

Space gladiators man.

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>>54921257
>red hunters aren't even listed

>>54921795
>tzeentch on suicide watch.
TS got 6 kits
DoT got 3 kits
AOS Tzeentch got 4ish? kits

Honestly it's about same size as Tzeentch's big release last year.

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A pic of me and my buddys game the other day.

We got into the hobby together 6 months ago, and it has been tons of fun. (I play IG)

>>54921995
heldrakes are amazing. Near guaranteed turn one charge on a unit that can fly and survive a lot.

>>54921681
>>54921688
Tremor shell their asses, lock one unit out and focus on the rest, if you cant stop the hordes then slow them down and just destroy them 1 at a time

>>54921855
Wasted CP for a little more damage is not worth it, it's like the d6 vs flat 3 damage argument. You run out of CP you get an innacurate paperweight, while a Predator is both chaper and performs well on it's own and even better in pairs.

>>54922032

My long-time friend was also an Orkish rival, our armies had a years-long running feud. Great stuff for narrative campaigns.

>>54922015
my fucking nigger

i didnt list em cause technically they werent a combatant chapter until the penitent crusades afterwards

were I including vraks then I fucking would have cause red hunters are a best

>>54921882
Not an argument, your tears are delicious

>>54922038
Too bad they do garbage damage and go down to a breeze.

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Hey Blood Ravens,
My name is Araghast the Pillager, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are cowards, lowly lickspittles who spend every second of their day worshipping your stupid-ass emperor. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures of xenos.
Don’t be a coward. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I am Master of Hounds, and the Lash of the Black Legion. What sports do you play, other than “jack off to naked drawn Japanese aliens”? I am also destroying your worlds, and have a banging hot Champion (He just opened the next portal; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch

>>54921213
>What you think the cumulative effect of that is?
None if the person doing it has a sensible and clean way of doing it. In my profession we work with pure and highly carcinogenic chemicals and none of my older colleges have been diagnosed with cancer because they don't jug down that shit

>>54921097
+1 for astral claws. Cause I also play astral claws

>>54921070
>unpainted dread
Why are marines players so shit?

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>>54922105

almost his entire army was painted. I will be reposting the batrep tonight after work.

>>54922032
Good on you both. now build some goddamn terrain.

>>54921754
Super excited :D

>>54922084
They're pretty survivable. T7, 13 wounds, and a 3+ armor save means you can use them to tarpit some units quite effectively.

>>54921813
8>7,6,5

>>54922154
That's not what has happened in the games I've seen them on. They usually get singled out and downed in a turn (usually to lascannons and multi-meltas) or simple ignored for the entire game because they don't do anything of note.

I think they need more melee Ap or something.

>>54921257
Voted mantis because I believe in the kamen rider meme

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Coolest 40k villain?

>the skulls box doesn't have at least 9 bird skulls

>>54922119
hawk lords?

>>54922049
Chaos has a lot of cp now with cheap ass cultist. Using it to produce extra damage is always the best use for it. Besides your talking about 1.5 damage less without it on a same cost unit that's twice as durable and comes with 7 damage 3 melee attacks.

>>54922200
*victim

>>54922032
Classic match up. Keep on it.

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>>54921395
I'd love to watch a massive battle between 30k World Eaters and Orks.

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>>54922200
Right here

>>54922200
that one from those books who finds a daemon spear and everyone thinks he's performing miracles when it's just chaos corruption

he grows angel wings and stuff

>>54922200
The Beasts

>>54922200
I like Ahriman

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Anyone try this yet? I'm playing a game this Friday.

>>54921849
People also dont really play 500 pts games.

>>54922181
Its a heavy melee unit with pathetic melee, if one of them charged a landraider it would take 27 turns to kill it.

>>54922282
See, that's the thing. My regular 40k stop is all about 1500+ point games, but this shop a lot closer to me just opened and the regulars there do a much smaller point cap. (They also serve coffee)

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>>54921395
Agreed

>t. Ork Tankhamma Boy

>>54922200
Abaddon the Despoiler obviously. He has a cool daemon sword that can kill the Emperor and wants towards kill Abaddon too but he is too strong for even the sword. And all the Chaosgods help him and want to turn him into a daemon but his willpower is too strong to let them turn him into one! And he is the best strategist ever thinking 10000 years in advance since the Heresy and he will just reject Chaos after killing evil dad- I mean the evil Emperor and then make the Imperium great again and he wears supercool black power armour!

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>>54922281
>PDF
since when has that been possible?

>>54922295
Why the hell would a heldrake do that if only to stop the landraider from shooting?
Heldrakes are dedicated anti-flier melee.

>>54922311
Since before I came here 15 years ago.

>>54922154
not the guy, but in all games in which ive tried fielding a Heldrake, it died the turn it was in shooting range. It severely needs the same -1tohit bonusses literally every other flyer gets.

The only time Its a good pick is when your opponent brings Flyers, because its main purpose is to be an anti-flyer flyer

What's with this "Helldrake is bad" meme? Or is it just /tg/ being shit at game and we're doing "7th ed Magnus is overcosted" again?

>>54921713
>>54921737
Heldrakes are good though?

Best ork vehicle for 8th? Including fw no fliers

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>>54922144
Funny story, I have 4 pieces of custom terrain made out of cardboard boxes, broken nerf gun parts, sprues, and paper towel rolls. I found this gnome in my yard (no idea when it got there) so I made it into a squat statue for terrain

>>54921147
>Just read about how much cancer resin causes.
>Haven't bought a FW thing and don't think I'll start. Fucking hell, how did GW think this was ok?
Because lead and antimony are just as bad? Safety precautions are "don't snort resin dust" and "wear an organic vape mask while you cast". Wet sand your shit and vacuum when you're done. How onerous is that, exactly?

>>>54921213
>Nigga you need to brush
Fan/dust mask

>file
Wet-sand, as literally every tutorial will suggest.

>bend
No exposure

>suck off
You're taking this Slaanesh thing vastly too seriously, aren't you? But for reals, a Dustbuster and a small hose is what, $20?

>and more to get FW shit in place.
No, not really.

>>54921265
>How has everyone's hobby been going?
Dragged my Skaven warband out from the shoebox. I'm busy casting up some matchlocks and replacing all their tails. After that it's recasting bits from my Penitent Engines to make some of whatever the fuck the new AdMech Gimp-Sentinels are and refurbishing my Rogue-Trader Robot Maniples for.. purposes.

>>54922336
>>54922350
It's a great looking model I plan on getting one regardless of memes soon. Plus it's a thrice damned chaos plane dragon monster c'mon cuz.

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>>54922200
Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thrakka, Beast of Armeggedon, Prophet of Gork & Mork.
That or Huron pre-cuckening.

>>54922379
Looks good broham. NOW MAKE MORE. seriously, theres nothing better than a cramped city brawl

Is a blood bowl ogre a good starting point for converting a warboss? I'd go with Ogryns but I don't want to have to buy a box of 3

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>>54922281
Looks fun!.

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What colors would you use for a fleet based chapter that does ship to ship boarding actions. No white please.

Is there a good list builder program out yet? I'll use manual methods if I have to, but I'd prefer a less tedious way.

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>>54922456
HEART OF OAK, ARE OUR SHIPS
JOLLY TARS ARE OUR MEN

You can call them the royal marines

>>54922456
Blood Angels
>>54922469
Just use battlescribe you ninny.

Excels pretty good though.

>>54922320
Or I could just shoot at flyers with any other anti vehicle weapon and do better while also being better at other things. Who wins, the guy who brings a shitty helldrake as dedicated anti flyer or the dude who brings hemlocks or stormravens and just shoots them down in one turn.

>>54922456
Red Corsairs.

>grey Knights are shit, they said
>They'll consistently lose, they said

So I build them cos they look cool and I'm a scrub anyways so fuck it. First games today and both ended in complete table wipe by GK, the first game being decided by an Alpha Strike on T1 and winning without a single wound taken
The second involved a giant robot fight which I was excited for all game. Dreadknight Vs Redemptor. Dreadknight got the charge, got 3D6 damage through and utterly scrapped it. Redemptors need an Invulnerable save man

>>54922456
>carcharodons
>Executioners
>Howling griffons
>fire angels

see >>54921257 for color schemes

>>54922084
Objectively false.

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Hmm. If Death Guard stuff comes out around 9th I might buy the stuff from a local GW which has its anniversary that day.
1/2

>>54921573
There's degrees to shit. Making Abaddon his donut steel isn't much better.

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>>54922528
2/2

>>54922528
I'm not sure the brits understand the concept of great or free.

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>>54922456
Marines Errant

>>54921689
>after Black Legion no one can really claim Abaddon was ever evil.
First, that's retarded, and second, if it was true it would be an awful thing.

Is it rude and faggoty to bring a Gork/Morkanaut as Orks to a 1000 point game or bring a Leviathan Dreadnought as DeathGuard to a 1000 point game.

Send out all soul grinders, titans, and knights! Chaos will take a planet yet!

>>54921157
>>54921117
>not putting typhus + 2 malignant plague casters and 20 poxwalkers in a Spartan Assault tank and disembariking 20 of em to heal the spartan and provide a nice ride for the rest.

>>54922511
Ironically enough, i have no idea as to how are they supposed to deal with Chaos.

With Changeling and Horrors they can't put enough wounds on Magnus in alpha strike, and he can hurt them a lot, given their reliance on elite units he can just chew through.

>>54922207
saw the batrep last night.. Storm Lords

>>54922528
It's shitty material but it's a nice bag for carrying stuff around in. The notebook is also shitty and so is the pad but it's free stuff so knock yourself out
One thing in the bags favour is it has 6 pen-sized slots under the flap to store brushes in. I have 8 brushes, 2 files, a thin stick (for mixing Imperial Primer) and a pen stored in them comfortably and the flap is high enough up it doesn't touch the bristles

>>54921479
>barely worth it
He's not flat-out, Admech fags are just too autsitc to take multiple domini or- god forbid- take allies.

Though the posters are topical enough paint well, stop whining about the army. It's not [current bottom army- eldar? Tau?]-tier bad, and allying with imperium is easy as fuck. Wait for the codex and FoC

>>54922578
Yes.

>>54922200
The Beast. Dude could make marines and spiky marines team up against him.

BASED UK AND EU PULLING THROUGH. NA BTFO. COME ON BOYZ LETS GET ATLEAST ONE PLANET.

>>54922212
Oh hey there ADB

>>54922596
Their smite does auto 3/6 wounds when targetting Demons, Mortal wounds spill over so they can decimate a unit of horrors fairly easily. Also dont they have artefacts against Daemons?

>>54922596
Best plan to Alpha Strike seems to be drop Draigo and a unit or two of fully kitted Purgations
Vs Magnus or any Daemon they'll be re-rolling everything. Also pray for the magic 9" charge on Draigo and give him Hammerhand to fuck shit up with

>>54922657
More than that, he got IF and IW to team up.

>>54922676
Except Horrors are 3pts per wound. It ain't worth it.

>>54922712
What leadership are horrors?

I finally found the one thing in my local meta that can gind my 180 boy list down

Guard spam with a bunch of heavy weapon teams, he didn't tailor against me or anything, but it was an unfortunate matchup, I lost 80 boys in the first turn, then after making the charge and chewing about half of his army off the board, he backed up, and shot the piss out of me again

Third turn I grinded him a bit more, then he backed up and chewed a bit more of me, then I finally GG'd because I pretty much only had HQs standing at that point against 60+ guard and some sentinels

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GW are doing several female Stormcast that could work as Sisters of Battle.

Is this a test run to see if Sisters will be popular?

>>54921754
Beasts of Nurgle too.

Does the whole deploy 9 inches from a unit with infiltrate count verticality?
Like if a units in a building and I need 3 inches to move up into it, do I deploy 6 inches from the building which in total equals 9?

>>54922737
Probably something shit. Not like it matters, as Smite still has to hit the closest and they are cheep as dirt.

>>54922746
Fluffy as fuck

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I like this tiny Gulliman's overall design, but not so much the pose and bald head.

Heartily approve of making a Primarch less fucking exaggerated tho.

>>54922758
I actually might get some stormcast if there are more than just one Token Female.

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>>54922758
>Sisters
>GW even remembering they exist

>>54922523
And you are objectively shitposting, kek

>>54922536
>donut
What?

>>54922307
Lol if I didn't knew better I'd call him a mary sue. But thanks to ADB I know he's an emo overdramatic bitch.

Already running:

Chaos Lord on bike with the murder sword
Exalted champion with power fist
Exalted champion with the black mace

I got a terminator lord I need to arm up. Considering combi-plas, can overcharge that shit all day without worrying. Thoughts?

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Chaos winning for once!

>>54922763
Purge Soul mate. Goes off on a 5
LD+D6 for both players, if GK total>opponents they take the difference in mortal wounds

>>54921395
Too true, I play boyspam a lot and I've noticed most opponents aren't too salty about how good it is, because they generally feel better because I take buckets of boys off the table every turn

What would be better for killing hwts, 10 ork kommandos infiltrating beside them or a big trak with Supa skorcha? (4d3 s6 ap-2 auto hit shots at 24", big trak has 14" movement)

>>54922596
Well mathematically design alone kills Magnus if he charges, just do sanctuary+attack twice and make sure to bring paladins and an ancient along too.

I don't know why you think we can't, aside from vehicle spam it's pretty easy to beat chaos. Marines are tough cause scouts stop alpha strikes, but chaos can't do that. What are you having trouble with?

Changling sucks, I've found dedicating a character (apothecary, GM, Brother-Cap, ancient, etc) to killing him works. Give them a halberd or falchions and you can reasonably kill him in one turn

Is Malcador the strongest naturally occuring Psyker?

>>54922766
Yeah it's ironic that I smack the fuck out of most Tourney lists with boyspam, but the Guard fluffy list the one that meme's it lel

>>54922787
You're killing off 3pts units that will still be stopping you from smiting important shit.

Also, lets not forget that Magnus can deny three powers with +2. He can be denied in turn, however.

>>54922636
>take allies.
There's a better unit for every role somewhere in the imperium roster. If you don't get reroll all hits on them half of admech is shit.
>take multiple domini
>taking domini when they're even worse than cawl

>>54922770
I hate the fact he looks brand new, he should have a real fucked up look having been cryo stored or w/e for 1000s of years and then brought back by xeno techmagic

>>54922801
Fresh GK player here, can I see your list?

>>54922770

That's dumb, but makes me want to add some Custodes to my ultramarines in those colours.

>>54922782
I honestly figure GW has told the guy running the site to fudge the numbers because it's getting so painfully one sided

>>54922562
>that's retarded
Not an argument!

>if it was true it would be an awful thing.
Your imperialfag opinion, nothing more

>>54922808
Probably strongest pure mortal human psyker. (or was before he ded)

>>54922758
>Is this a test run to see if Sisters will be popular?
They need a test run after people have been begging for plastics for 20 YEARS?

I do think we're closer to plastic sisters than we've ever been before, but hopefully they really go all out when it happens. I know GW dropped squats all those years ago because they didn't feel inspired, but I find it hard not to be inspired by fanatical murder nuns with flamers.

>>54922682
Yeah, take an apoth/ancient and give first to the fray WL trait for rerolls. Most guys will get in with that, and if a key guy doesn't use a reroll CP

>>54922801
*Draigo, my typing is dumb

>>54922812
Horrors can be pretty important if they're sitting on an objective you need. Not saying they're a priority purge target but sometimes you are gonna need them dead

>>54922801
>getting to charge Magnus
>getting to charge Changeling

Jesus shit. Look bud, first of all, Chaos can get six ten man units of Horrors for like 150pts. That's enough to protect everything they want to.

Magnus will be in smack middle of said screen. It's irrelevant what can kill him on charge, as he will be one doing the charging. You won't get anywhere near Changeling unless you manage to murder your way through 50+ Horrors, Magnus and other Daemons.

Seriously, who are you playing against?

>>54921071
It's important to note that he only gets his World Eaters legion bonuses if the entire detachment is World Eaters. The Bloodthirster would ruin that.

Will rule of cool make my army unplayable? I don't mind if it's bad, I find it fun to win with poor/underdog units, but I wanna know if i'll lose literally 95% of the time. The game is mainly dice rolls right?

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>>54922775
There's at least 3. Pic on the left is one. And there's one more in a set somewhere.

>>54922844
Why would you need a test run when you already have a full model range that's profitable enough to continue. What a dumb concept, sob aren't a risk like fyreslayers or some unpopular bullshit like that, which must have even still been profitable since they another full line of aos dwarves afterwards.

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Any c&c or tips on this? Hoping to neaten up the highlights on my next two.

>>54922902
Depends on the army but mostly you should be fine, usually big cool things are pretty useful

>>54922902
Tell us the army and we'll provide an answer, some 'cool' armies are actually good

>>54922909
I WANT TO LICK HER ABS

>>54922493
I don't think Hemlocks or Stormravens would be a part of a chaos players list.

>>54922782
>about Grindr

>>54922923
2x Chimera
1x Taurox Prime
1x Militarum Tempestus Command Squad
1x Militarum Tempestus Squad + Commisar
4x Imperial Guard Squad + 3x Officers + 3x Special Weapons + 3x Vox Caster
1x Lasgun Heavy Weapons Squad

Just starting out so I'll probably get a few additional things, finish up my heavy weapons squad.

>>54922874
>stay outside of Magnus' Range and shoot the Horrors, until theyre gone.

Or just shoot Magnus with Heavy Weapons because shooting still works even with horrors in front of him

>>54922935
I'm talking about the idea of using helldrakes specifically against them as a comparison of it to actual good units.

>>54922902
That depends on your definition of cool.

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>>54922968
Double barelled minigun fancymobile is definitely up there.

>>54922960
>>stay outside of Magnus' Range and shoot the Horrors, until theyre gone.

He can move 32" with Warp Time, and then charge. Also, Magnus, Horrors and Changeling are literally less than half of 1850pts Chaos army.

>Or just shoot Magnus with Heavy Weapons because shooting still works even with horrors in front of him

Good luck getting through 3++r1 and -1 to hit with Changeling aura with what GK usually bring.

Struggling to get games for Konor with work getting in the way. R8 me list?

Adepta Sororitas (1000 points)
[Outrider detachment]

Celestine (250 points)
- 2 Geminæ

Battle sister squad (154 points)
- 15-strong
- 2 Storm bolters
- Superior w/ Combi-Plasma

Imagifier (40 points)

Dominion squad (118 points)
- 4 Meltaguns

Immolator (103 points)
- Immolation Flamer

Dominion squad (118 points)
- 4 Meltaguns

Immolator (103 points)
- Immolation Flamer

Seraphim (114 points)
- 2 pairs of Inferno pistols
- Superior w/ Power sword & Plasma pistol

>>54922982
An APC with an anti-infantry weapon? That exists in real life.

>>54923010
Does it have quad treads and an affinity for Finnish heraldry though?

>>54922999
Drop the image and the 10 extra bodies. Get another Immolator

>>54923036
Yes, there are tracked APCs and IFVs in real life. Heraldry has no effect in combat so it doesn't matter.

>>54922933
You and me both...I go first

Should I try plasma vets with Platoon commanders for this next mission?
I have enough Chaos at my shop to pretty reliably be on attack.

>>54923069
>>54922933
You niggas act that way irl?

>>54923068
Hmm okay mate well done.

*walks away*

>>54922917
Put some yellow glaze (i think its called Lamenters Yellow) over the yellow panels, makes it look a lot more bright and yellowly,

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What the hell is the point of the shitty Iron warrior 6+ FNP stratagem? this shit should be a free rule not something you blow a 1CP on

Why couldn't it just let you heal up a vehicle or something, this isn't even really fluffy

>>54923085
>*walks away*
Not sure if I should cringe or chuckle.

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>>54922933

R8 my ongoing list. Thinking of doing a terminator squad, termie sorc and a land raider by the end. Essentially just reorganizing all the spare chaos models I own that I won't use with my Thousand Sons (which are my main army).

Battalion Detachment

HQ: Daemon Prince of Khorne w/ Daemonic Axe = 170
HQ: Chaos Lord on Bike w/ Murder Sword (replaces pistol) = 117

Troops: 20x Bloodletters w/ Icon and Instrument = 165
2x Troops: 5x Chaos Marines w/ flamer = 74 each, 148

Elites: 10x Berzerkers w/ 9 Chainaxes (replaces pistols), 2x LCs (Champion) and Icon of Wrath = 191

Heavy Support: 3x Obliterators = 195

Dedicated Transport: Rhino w/ Havoc Launcher and Combi-Flamer = 92

1078

Supreme Command Detachment

HQ: Chaos Lord Terminator w/ Combi-plasma = 124
HQ: Exalted Champion w/ Black Mace (replaces chainsword) = 74
HQ: Exalted Champion w/ Powerfist (replaces chainsword) = 82

1358

>>54922580
I don't want treads in my DG tho. Stomping and flying are it for me

>>54922829
Yeah, GK are sorta mono-build if you're looking for command points, but here's what I generally roll with;

>draigo
>GM in dreadknight
>paladin ancient
>apothecary
>5 paladins
>4 paladins
>standard stormraven
>6 interceptors in assault razorback
>6 interceptors in assault razorback

That only gives 4CP, but it's a really fun list. If you want magical 6CP, swap the interceptors for a strike and the second paladins for 10 strike (which is funny for psybolt stuff)

>>54923037

Cool, Multi-Meltas or flamers?
And the last ~70 points?

>>54922991
To make this less of an abstract, "standard" list tends to be something like two Batalion detachments with Horrors, Heralds/Scribes and a Changeling, and Super Heavy Detachment with Magnus and two Renegade Knights. 9CP.

the shit I ordered from gdubs still haven't arrived 9 working days after my order. called them today and they sent me another order of the same items this time with priority shipping and tracking number...

part of me hope that the original package will arrive so I get x2 the stuff, but I think its legit lost in the mail.

>>54923079

Company commanders are better value for orders.
Use Platoon commanders to spam command squads.

>>54923111
foy

What do the marks of chaos DO in 8th? I cant seem to find the page they are on.

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>>54922307
The current state of fluff, ladies and gentlemen. Bask in its glory!

>>54923222
A decade or so ago I bought a huge Tyranid starter set, 100+ squid.

Being a 10 year old kid, I genuinely didn't realize that some models like the Raveners, Zoanthropes and a few others were metal so I thought they were missing and called GW, they sent each of the missing metal ones and a carnifex to boot.

They're cool like that.

>>54922415
baleflamer got buffed in codex, it costs 1/2 the price in the index

>>54923237
They give you Chaos God keyword, which means that certain buffs can target you.

So if your Alpha Legion Obliterators take Mark of Tzeentzch you get that sweet -2 to be hit out of 12" in Changeling aura. Your Chaos Lord can be targeted by Weaver of Fates. And so on.

>>54922991

Like Im not saying Magnus isnt Pushed and OP (like every other Primarch theyre bringing out.)

But you're paying for a 665 Points Death-star that I can stay out of range of because Horrors are fairly slow. And If you want your 415 LoW to be usefull you need to run out of your protective layer of Changeling and horrors. at which point you might aswell just go with 2 units of horrors so he doesnt get shot before your first turn. You WANT Magnus to be in melee thb


He also doesnt have a 3++ base He needs to cast Weaver of Fates on himself first which takes up one of the spells he may take and cast

>>54923281
Thats literally it? Can be targeted by their buff spells? Lame.

>>54922999
-your imagifier will never make its points back with those small squads. possibly if you have it double shoot the seraphim inferno pistols.
-i think taking celestine in 1000 points is a bit cheesey but really the other options (cannones or uriah) are shit so i guess leave it
-15 man squads are good in theory but when you loose leadership tests they can be a pain
-im assuming your dominions ans seraphim squads are max sized ???? whos going in the immo ?

>>54921070
Although I love this army does it trigger anyone else that one of the heavy weapon teams is on the thicker base and the rest on those weird thing ones.

>>54922991
>playing 1850
>saying Magnus won't be in CC then saying how good he is in CC

I've only played against TS once with grey knights, but it went well. The dude didn't spam brimstones and had 3-4 pink hordes, I gunned them down with lots of dakka and got lucky with like 11 wounds on Maggie turn one. Then he made the mistake of charging him into my line, and my terminators+draigo+ancient+falchions finished the business.

Magnus is definitely terrifying far away, but outside of 18" he can't do shit. He's stuck that a balanced army can kill or significantly weaken him in 2-3 turns if he advances with his daemon friends, or take him down in melee if he moves up alone. So yeah, he's not been that bad, but I dunno what the ultra-hyper-super competitive format for bringing him is atm. I thought tzaangors were the real pain in the ass

>>54923222
Now it's time to start hassling your local post office, too.

>>54922307
>not mentioning his waifu
For shame sir, everyone knows every REAL champion has a mommy stand in to prove that he's still a good person despite heartlessly massacring billions of innocent people! Just look at Argel Tal and Talos!

>>54923307
Welcome to playing Chaos in Age of Sigmemperor 8th ed

Where the rules are made up, and the marks don't matter

>>54922999
>>54923205

Never mind, i realised you meant that I keep the min-sized battle sister squad.

>>54923338
Sorry, my Carnac-fu is weak.

>>54923338
>muh innocent people
And what were those worth, compared to the future of humanity? No such thing as innocence.

>>54922770
Sigmarine/10
Still, it look 100 times better than the pile of shit GW made. Paint looks good too

Is running a pure scion army a viable option currently?

Am I the only one who, despite disliking most of the Primaris units, fucking love the Redemptor Dreadnought ?
It's litterally the only Primaris unit in my otherwise entirely manlet army.

>>54923403
Very much yes. Plasma spam is pure cheese.

>>54923319
>>saying Magnus won't be in CC then saying how good he is in CC

You are literally making shit up bud. Magnus can pick where he wants to charge - you can group up with your entire army, but you will just lose on points then. Unless your opponent is braindead enough to charge him into entire army he will be picking off fliers and such before he can run in.

>So yeah, he's not been that bad, but I dunno what the ultra-hyper-super competitive format for bringing him is atm.

He's usually run with two other LoWs. You have to focus Magnus before he rips your army to shreds, but by the time you manage to put him down other two LoW have already shat on your other units, focusing down those that can actually harm them.

Plus you can bring two Horror Battalions for infinite CPs and cheap objective grabbing, as detailed before.

Like, there is a reason why he's really damn powerful, and "just shoot at him" obvious doesn't work as well as you'd hope to because everyone would be doing that otherwise. It works, mind, but you end up spending a lot on what's in the end 415pts that will probably kill their points back with ease.

>>54923281
Wait what does the mark of khorne do then?

>>54923403

Mountains more than they were in 7th.

Hey /tg/
Where can i find the dataslates for the primaris ?

>>54923397
Sigmarine? That's a Custodes body, you dip.

>>54923445
Unlocks Khorne artifacts and straragems, and lets you use World Eaters.

>>54923462
In the boxes or the codex :^)

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What gang would best be used to represent my kreigers

>>54923164
That does sound pretty fun desu
My store plays power though (don't let GK loose with power, they will hurt you)
>Voldus
>5 terminators with swords and a psycannon
>5 interceptors with swords and a psycannon
>5 Purgators with 2 psilencers and 2 psycannons
>Dreadknight with Flamestorm Cannon, Psilencer and sword

Build the Knight before I saw how kickass Psycannons are and plan to expand the interceptors to a 10 man with 2 cannons and 2 5 man purgations with 4 cannons in one and 4 psilencers in the other. Also have Draigo coming in the mail and Paladins are sounding quite attractive. Kind of want another DK as well because good lord they're brilliant

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How do we fix the Russ ?

>>54923462
go to any primaris item on the GW website and you'll get the pdf

>>54923438
Fuck man, two other LoW is straight bullshit way to play. Yeah, I get why he's doing well for you, but shit man, that's just cruel.

I hold Magnus isn't all that OP, but putting him in BS like that obviously makes him unfun and damn powerful to fight

>>54923550
>How do we fix the Russ ?
replace it with conscripts

>>54923510
Considering the Kriegers are well trained and have military equipment, I'd say Van Saar will be your best bet. Delaque is too stealth-based and Orlock has too much physical focus.

>>54921265
>Someone else paints their Tau's grenades like pokeballs
My Shas'la.

Great paintjob

>>54923554
Yeah, for the point costs. This isn't AoS with free rules for everything.

>>54923556
I mean, another way is running Helldrake/Scarab Occult with him. He charges in, they fly/deepstrike and then shoot and tie other units so you can't focus on Magnus while he is rampaging through your lines.

It's weaker, but also much more interesting.

>>54923438

Again NO ONE is saying Magnus is bad.but he isnt the singlemost bullshit thing on the tabletop.

there is only so much CP you should get when you cannot even use the CSM Stratagems

Also if youre playing in an environment so faggotrous to play 3 LoW and nothing but horrors, there is much more degenerate stuff you can do, even with GKs. Dont get me started on Guard

>>54923487
I know and it doesn't lessen the fact that it looks like a sigmarine

>>54922770
I would have used the primaris gravis captain's gauntlet.

Personally, I've been eyeing the gravis captain with the intention of turning him into Mortarion.

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>>54922909
>>54922758
Honestly I'd rather just use the Eisenkern Tank Hunters conversion that's been flaoting around /wip/ for ages.

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>>54921302
Woah, woah, woah, hold up. Khorne is boring and predictable. Nurgle is fun for all the family.

Bitch

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>>54922758
>female siegmarites

>>54923550

Russ are great now. They're tough and aren't just pie plate tossers anymore.

>Flakk missile chaos stratagem
What fucking units can fly and use a missile launcher? I honestly have no fucking idea, anyone want to point it out for me?