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Cadia broke edition

Old thread: >>54914718

>Necromunda is coming back.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/13/breaking-news-necromunda-returnsgw-homepage-post-1/

>Konor Campaign: Chaos getting closer each planet but still not good enough.
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/

>Check your local store's contribution to the Campaign.
https://warhammer40000.com/fate-konor-galaxy-flames/

>GW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/
>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/
>Codex: Space Marines FAQ
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/10/codex-space-marines-errata-now-available/
>Codex: Chaos Space Marine supplement for Daemons, Thousand Sons and Death Guard players
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/13/daemons-and-thousand-sons-in-codex-chaos-space-marines-aug-13gw-homepage-post-2/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in pdf & epub, SW:A, WIP and BB are here too, no novels.
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>WIP Math-hammer doc (Chart-Anon doing the Emperor's work)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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>>54917933
CSM are niggers?
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>>54917933
wtf is this shitty pic OP
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https://regimental-standard.com/2017/08/16/regimental-standard-konor-war-diaries-part-4-vanitor/

>We’ve been asked to fill in our requisite psychic self-assessment forms, and all troops who score highly are being assigned to the first wave in order to clear the minefields ahead of the relay. The principle is simple – any latent precognitive abilities should allow a Guardsman to pinpoint any buried explosives, and should they fail – well, that’s one less potential witch to worry about!
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>>54917948
>>54917950
Here you go my new friends :)

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/whoppy-machine-broke
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Does anyone know what happened to Garin?
For those of you who don't know, Garin is a user on thingiverse who made proxy models for Warhammer 40k.
Unfortunately, when I went to check his userpage today, all I got was a 404.
Did GW shut him down?
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>>54917963
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>>54917963
>>54917986
lordy lou
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Post the latest thing you posted or assembled anons, I bet it looks ace
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-Daemon prince 180 (warlord, unholy fortitude)
Claws, intoxicating elixir, wings
-Terminator lord 146
Combi melta, chain fist
-terminator sorcerer 175
Combi melta, force axe

-10 cultists 44
Heavy stubber
-10 cultists 49
Shotgun, flamer
-5 marines 85
Flamer, combi flamer

-helbrute 147
Twin lascannons, missile launcher
-5 terminators 260
5 combi plasmas, 2 power axes, 2 mauls, power fist

-5 havoks 105
4 heavy bolters
-predator 190
4 lascannons
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-chaos lord 78
Power sword

-10 cultists 40

1499/1500, 7 command points

Playing Slaanesh renegades. First turn prince advances then tries to do so again with warp time going for a first turn charge with the helldrake using its 30" to do the same.
Termies all drop down together and bunkering up next to them. Prescience and delightful agonies on the squad before opening up in shooting phase, and doing it again with the squad using endless cacophony.
The helbrute, havoks and predator buker up behind the infantry wall with the lord for rerolls and the helbrute using fire frenzy.
Burning 3 command points per turn on cacophony and fire franzy that leaves 1 command for a command reroll.
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>>54918031
>implying anyone on tg actually owns models or plays 40k
good one anon
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What's their action movie name again?
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>>54917933
Thoughts on the Chapter Champion? Any good with that extra attack sword? Should I try to slip an Emperor's champion into my non-Black Templar renegade army and hope the other player doesn't notice?
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>>54918044
Bringing the paint(t)?
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Should I try applying at the GW store I just discovered exists near me \40kg\? Last two weeks convinced me I need a new job
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>>54918055
become our inside man, anon
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>>54918031
>I bet it looks ace

I DON'T TAKE SUCKER BETS
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>>54918031
Last model I fully painted, haven't been able to paint anything else, work fucking sucks....
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>>54917933
>not planet broke
Why can't 40k white neckbeards do anything funny besides show themselves in public
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Looking at starting some Emperor's Children as a second force to contrast with my Eldar.
I'd convert the sonic weaponry for those with it.
Pic related for the handful of minis I've built using some spare stuff I had lying around.

Anything you guys would suggest bringing or avoiding?
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>>54918041
Scratch the bit about the drake, I'm retarded.
Prince is going man mode.
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>>54918031
I like THICC tech priestesses
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>>54918080
>Emperors children to contrast eldar
one loves slaanesh the other hates it, I mean that is some sort of contrast but not really, a better contrast would be nids/orks/tau
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>>54918031
5 down, 95 to go. Nothing too spectacular but it's a start.
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>>54918088
It's quite a contrast in available units and playstyle though.
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>>54918044
John Thicc
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>>54918055
>>54918059
>looking for the store I knew about
>literally first open job is barely 20 minutes from me
Now to see if they'd let a 25 year old run a store...
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>>54918059
This
Do it you goose
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>>54918031
I'm having a really fun time building and painting my Dark Eldar, though its dangerous in that it only encourages me to buy more.
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>>54918080
SONIC DREAD

DO IT

DO IT NOW
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>>54918087
>that one guy talking about his damn bobcut servitors
Haha, he actualy went and did it the absolute madman
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>>54918041
Looks good, how will you model them?

Just regular CSM with pink paint jobs?
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>>54918105
I wouldn't even go that far, it's a difference but not a contrast.
Both armies are composed of medium sized forces (usually) wielding combinations of melee and shooting weaponry that they are reasonably proficient in both.
A real contrast could be knights, guard/elysians (due to forcing combined arms/flyers), nids (swarms), tau/crons (no psykers, mainly shooty).
Any flavour of marines are similar and the faction closest to marines in playstyle is eldar, being more fragile but once again a jack of all trades army that can be modified to fit basically any role
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>>54918044
Commandough
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What do you guys think?

Belisarious Cawl - 250

2x Tech-Priest Dominus - 278
Volkite Blaster
Phosphor Serpenta

1x Cybernetica Datasmith - 52

10x Skitarii Vanguard - 149
3x Plasma Caliver
Omnispex

10x Skitarii Vanguard - 149
3x Plasma Caliver
Omnispex

10x Skitarii Vanguard - 149
3x Plasma Caliver
Omnispex

3x Kataphran Destroyers - 210
3x Plasma Culverin
3x Phosphor Blaster

5x Sicarian Infiltrators - 120
5x Stubcarbine
5x Power Sword

2x Kastelan Robots - 220
6x Heavy Phosphor Blaster

Onager Dunecrawler - 143
1x Neutron Laser + cognis heavy stubber
Broad-Spectrum Data Tether

Onager Dunecrawler - 143
1x Neutron Laser + cognis heavy stubber
Broad-Spectrum Data Tether

Onager Dunecrawler - 143
1x Neutron Laser + cognis heavy stubber
Broad-Spectrum Data Tether

1998 Points Total

Army is split into a Battalion and a Spearhead Detatchment
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Is a fortification-heavy Guard build viable?
I like the idea of holding the line with bunkers and trenches
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>>54918152
Seconded they're amazing
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>>54918138
I'm 25 and I run all the IT equipment for a multi million pound company.
You can run a store easily.
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Just changed the heads.

Looking like decent praetorians?
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>>54918170
skyshield are good, either give a 5++ or let flyers in hover mode regenerate d3 wounds, chuck on a vulture and a techpriest and you regen 2d3 (iirc) wounds a turn while dumping 40 S5 Ap0 D1 shots a turn at BS3+
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>>54918180
The issue isn't young employees, it's the older people that are in charge of hiring and their prejudice against young hires.
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>>54918183
Also I messed up trying to get his feet to the base lol, it's a bit shameful isn't it. I'm sure when based and painted it will just be part of the foliage.
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>>54918180
You also probably are qualified for it, I know I could easily do it, it's more their attitudes towards it
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GUILLIMAN NERF WHEN??
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>>54918203

why? he is weak as shit.

magnus bitchslapped him in my last game.
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>>54918203
Never. Stop asking us, NPCfag
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>>54918203
They said they're nerfing conscripts atm, Bobby G will have to wait. Just use autocannons to down him in the mean time
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>>54918203
Got gud, casul
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>>54918203
Ork hq on par with Girlman when?
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>>54918154
I am an absolute madman, and I did it because one That Guy at my FLGS went on at length about wanting to make a Missing Legion army of female Marines using the Prodos bikini armour warriors from Space Crusade.

He wants more girls in 40k? He gets John Blanche nightmare fuel.
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>>54918203
>>54918218
>behold the true power of orktism
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>Shooting Guilliman
That's not how it works
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Are there any Harlequin colour schemes that don't involve the diamonds? I'm sorely tempted to get a 1000 point force of them but I know my painting skills aren't up to that task.
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>>54918223
>pew pew pew!!
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>>54918222
Maybe I do have Orktism..... but seriously when?
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>>54918233
Three lines then three lines across those boss practice on a tester. If it dosent work paint a solid over it and try again you'll get it in no time flat!
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>>54918233
Just paint them as you see fit. You don't need to stick to an official scheme.
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>>54918245
Oh I've tried it, my hands are just real shaky at the best of times so I struggle with that kind of thing. Mostly just wondering if anyone has seen non-diamond paintjobs on them that came out nicely.
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>>54918233
>painting Harlequins
>does not want to use harlequin pattern

Well, I mean, I guess you can paint them as Bozo the Clowns, but please note I have lost all respect for you, you freak.
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>Astaramis [x]
>Konor [x]
>Nethamus [x]

There's the hat-trick. That's 3/6. Chaos cucks fighting for a draw at based.
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>>54918044
still prefer "Game Ogre"
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>>54918266
>implying they wont REEEEE for an overtime if they somehow managed to catch up
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Primaris Death Company when?
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>>54918266
IF. they manage to win the remaining three (which they won't) I reckon GeeDubs will do a tie breaker of sorts. Maybe spess battle
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>>54918170
I don't know any other way to play anymore
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>>54918259
my desires exceed my abilites
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>>54918255
There's some nice black & white schemes in the 7th edition codex. Quite striking, but not a diamond in sight. (If you're worried about the vehicle stripes, masking tape is your friend there.)
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>>54918160
Red and black bodies, pink helmets and shoulder pads with gold trim.

Hair, jewellery and sometimes single body segments in bright purple, yellow, green and teal stripes/dots.

Daemon prince is either going to pinkish purple skinned with solid gold armour or mostly green with a flower motif.
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>>54917966
Terminally ill
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>>54918206
I will admit I was intimidated till I oneshot him with my MacroCannon. Then he got up and I did it again. 2d6 Earthshaker rounds is a bitch with high rolls.
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>>54918041
How are you getting 7 command points?
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>>54918233
Look up the frozen stars troupe, literally babbys first harlequin army.
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>>54918331
resin cancer boys
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When will GW release CSM chosen seperately from the fucking DV?
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>>54918344
Battalion + patrol
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So I want to expand my Dark Eldar because they're fun to paint. One of the two ways I'm considering doing so is making a small mostly Coven force that can either stand alone as a 1000point/50PL army of its own or dovetail with my Kabal for a bigger army.

With that in mind, would a Buff Manchest Coven army where everything is T5 (effectively) and tougher than pansy marines or orks be any good on the table top? Something like
>Haemonculus
>10 Wracks (or 9 to share the Raider with the Haemy)
>Raider
>Talos
>Cronos
>Reavers with Painbringer x 9
And then either another Talos, another Haemonculus to footslog and buff the pain engines, or break my T5 only rule and pick up some Dark Lance or Blaster Scourges for anti armor work.

Some Groteseques are an option too, but I honestly think they seem to be outclassed by both Wracks and Talos's in different ways.
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>>54918266
If Imperium win the next then GW should just end this stupid rabble and release Morty already.
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>>54918372
patrol gives 0 CP, you have 6
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>>54918372
patrol give nothing, if it did it would be bonkers
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>>54918169
>Belisarious Cawl - 250
>250

Whoever thought that this was a good idea needs to be shoot.
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>>54918380
My mistake.
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>>54918208
>npc
I play marines, fag.
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>>54918328
That looks pretty nice, especially with the metal masks. Thanks anon!
>>54918350
Thanks boss!
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>>54918401
Unless they're yellow, your still a fag
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If marine chapters were football teams which ones would they be? Some chapters' colours match well with actual team colours
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>>54918377
Makes me realise they have to make Chaos win something so they can sell their shitty morty-moth model
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>>54918087
>>54918220

Pic from the other side please, i wanna see the robo TITS

(and also just look at how you did the torso, i like 'phrons)
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What are some things a librarian should have? I am converting one out of a spare primaris lieutenant and he's pretty bare thankfully but I am not sure what bits to all.
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>>54918233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUBtItceuec
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>>54918431
>Marines Malevolent
>Milwall FC
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Who would be Seahawks chapter?
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>>54918284
This.
Reminder that it's a psychic affliction for those who carry Sanguinius' genetics, not a genetic flaw that can be corrected without them not actually being Blood Angels.
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>>54918431
Ultramarines=chelsea
Blood Ravens=man united
Hull city=imperial fists
Liverpool=blood angels
idk anymore but there's a rundown of some relevant chapters
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>>54918504
Someone the imperial fist (steelers) stomp all the fuck over
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>>54918435
Morty is literally no one's favorite Primarch, he's strike up being a cunt. If they want him to sell then they should had release him before all this stupid campaign.
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>>54918443
Breasts are an abomination in the name of the Omnissiah, anon

"And the machine god said, let there be a rugged all terrain V8 powered booty. And Guilliman did say "nice"." - Belisarius Cawl 420.69.M42
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>>54918519
PRAISE THE OMNISSAH!
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Now is the time for chaos players to send in their soul grinders!
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>>54918519
>"The Angel Combustion has shown her true form!!!"
Official diggaz kits when? I want muh mad max already
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>>54918519
>beta waifufags btfo
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>>54918532
I swear to the Emperor I will grind your soul if you keep it up
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>>54918532
>>54918544
Soul grinder anon is best anon. I dont even think he plays 40k. Just loves soul grinders
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>>54918526
Also from this forgeworld: "Peg Leg Pythagoras", who turned his unfortunate industrial injury into a chance for a new look.
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New AOS game/campaign called BlightWar

Coming at the same time as the Death Guard release, there's a clear image of a new beast of Nurgle being ridden by some scary looking Herald

Captcha won't let me post vid
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>>54918233
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>>54918339
Even Lord Guilliman cannot impress the well endowed eagle.
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>>54918532
Vehicles weak is over, I brought my only Soul Grinder to every game all weak.
Would you kindly drop it now?
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>>54918559
drop some of the url
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>>54918564
It's only on FB now

Usual FB address followed by

GWWarhammerAgeofSigmar/videos/678616285668501/
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>>54918573
Thanks mate
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>>54918513
Oh so Iron Warriors?
I guess my boy the Pats would be Ultramaries. With Tom "Rowboat Girlyman" Brady being the best Primarch/QB of all time.

.....wait does that make Cawl Belichick?
>It's not heresy/cheating if they don't know where the geneseed came from
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>>54918559
>nurgle daemons speak with a west country accent
Actually, that fits quite well.
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>>54918590
I'm Devonian too, have Death Guard and Nurgle Daemons

This pleases me
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>>54918573
looks like it'll be a nurgle vs sigmarine box set maybe? Death guard getting even more love now
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ive just started the hobby and have got some rubric marines with intention of doing a 1ksons army, but having had a look at the wider chaos space marine unit roster im kindof concerned by their unit limitations. for example CSM can get terminators with combi plasmas and all sorts of awesome weapon customisation, but scarab occult termies get only one real option for the bulk of their troops, then optional added missile thing or a soulreaper cannon, which is admittedly decent bc of its -3ap.

what role do scarab occult termies really have? they seem best suited to just drop in and throw s4ap-2 rounds at guardsmen or something, even though they (apparently) have a melee capability that they are too slow to really make use of easily.

also, should i pick up a hellbrute? and if so is two fists w. heavy flamer a good option or is it too difficult to get hellbrutes into melee?
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>>54918316
Honestly, your memeing is starting to wear on me. I am actually thinking about picking one of those up
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>>54918170
Surely it depends on the scenario. If you need to take objectives then you can't sit behind your walls all day.
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>>54918183
Take a better picture. Too blurry to make out the details and see if the different head scale looks off.
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Chaos would probably not be getting so thoroughly reamed if the models didn't suck donkey dick and the rules for them weren't so garbage.
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Are the rules out for the 4th mission yet?
Do I get to still on the edge of the board and rain bullets again?
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>Cant build for shit
>Cant paint for shit
>Burning desire for a knight
WAT DO
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>>54918559
Oh wow, that's really neat. Kinda wishing I had a Nurgle playing guy as a friend now, the non-WAACfags seem like such great people and I'd also love to see those models in person.
>>54918601
Yeah, probably. Not surprising though, given Tzaanuary and stuff.
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>>54918266
>purchases for points
>waves of primaris release kick off with campaign

There was no way the Imperium wasn't going to win. That the UK&ROW managed to edge a victory in one region of week 3 is a miracle.
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>>54918633
Stop being so shit. Knights are a easy as fuck kit
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>>54918614
Just make sure your friends can take you being a defensive turtle shitlord. Mine compensated by picking up two laspred and two Stonecrusher Carnifex each.
To be honest a couple Firestorms are probably more effective anyway.
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>>54918519

Thanks friend.

Still has a mouth, still good :)))
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>>54918615
Scions my boy! I drop them to take points or divert threats while my Arty pounds the board from behind my Eagle Death Cannon Cock Fortress.
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>>54918573
This thing?
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>>54918663
>activate windows
nigga did you get a recast computer or something, why don't you have windows activated fool?
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>>54918660
Could work. Certainly cheaper than having some vehicles around to sally forth, and even then they're only claiming objectives if there's some troops inside ready to jump out.
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>>54918669
>recast computer
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>>54918669
I don't like Windows update and I keep forgetting to go reactivate it.
Plus I honestly don't want to, majority of the time I don't notice it.
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>>54918512
I reckon ManU could also be Blood angels or maybe Arsenal.
Man City would be Space wolves and then ManU could be 30K thousand sons but that is just thinking too much into it.

Also Raven guard Newcastle
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Khayon says that under Ahriman's helmet is a literal screaming void where his face should be. If that's the case, then how does Ahriman eat?

Also the CSMcodex says that the Talon of Horus is fused to Abaddon's body and soul. So how the fuck dies he function in his daily life?
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>>54918169
looks ok, dropping the spearhead a dominus and the sicarians for 2 more robots would be more optimized.
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>>54918692
ManU are blood ravens for stealing players from other teams like ibrahimovic
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>>54918703
These guys don't really eat or sleep or anything like that brah
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>>54918714
Well played there
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>>54918727
then those players (ibrahimovic) are forgotten about and don't perform well in the new team
>200 baneblades
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>>54918732
Moyes and Mou could be incarnations of Indrick Boreale
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>>54917933
>Tumbr meme
God damnit OP you had one job.
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>>54918663
That's the chap

Looks sluggy, maybe it's got those stumpy feet we saw a few months ago

The Herald seems to have large antlers too
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>>54918642
>Xenos got victory
Fixed that for you
I've seen more SoB players for FoK than chaos players. A fucker made an Imperium super friends with Celestine being uses as a count as Enslaver.
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>>54918680
I can't tell if you're complimenting me on the joke or giving attempting to give me autism since the joke was so trash, either way I chuckled at the picture and will now have nightmares
>>54918688
can't you just turn off windows updates?
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>>54918754
I want you to make a count of all the UK/RoW stores and proof that.
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>>54918703
>Khayon says that under Ahriman's helmet is a literal screaming void where his face should be.
When the fuck did that happen?
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>>54918762
>burden of proof lies on only one of the members of the argument
logical fallacy, both members of the argument should provide evidence for the debate, putting the burden of proof on one side is not evidence
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>>54918752
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>>54918031
Man I love bikes.
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>>54918703
>literal screaming void where his face should be
>how does ahriman eat
by putting food inside the screaming void where his face should be in an attempt to appease whatever dark gods reside in there, maybe if fucking Imperial Pizza Hut still fucking delivered to the eye of terror (they stopped after the fabius bile incident) he'd finally get the food he wants,
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>>54918788
>Emperor's Children legionnaire in state of shock awaiting medicae treatment, M31 (colourized)
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>>54918762
>>54918776
Just grab a random store and see the results
Even in South America Chaos is useless.
I have yet to see a pure chaos victory in any store.
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>>54918800
not
>emperor's children legionnaire in state of shock after attempting to emulate abaddon and his "look ma, no hands!" trick
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>>54918396
Why so? He seems pretty average for that price, and we really do need the buffs to keep our dakkabloops in line.

Also, I think Kataphrons get a bad rep. Gravstroyers are pretty good at burning through Marines and such even without rerolls, and can serve as anti-tank in a pinch. They just need around a 15ppm drop so they won't be pretty much strictly worse than Kastelans and I suspect people would go on running them.
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>>54918044

Paint Bad 2: Paint badder
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>>54918793
>Dominus Pizza
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>>54918776
No, it's not. You are the one making the claim. I have made no claim.
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>>54918803
I was not arguing that chaos was winning, I was simply pointing out a logical fallacy in your argument, the debate is fairly inane to me as a guard player who plays a far away regiment (where is anphelion in reference to the warp?) who also mains tau (who are unaffected by the entire campaign)
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World of Tanks is making a 40k tank game
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>>54918765
The Black Legion novel. Khayon says that Ahriman is full of shit when he says that he pure and unmutated.
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maybe chaos players are just shit are gust shit at the game
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>>54918817
it's like a real life anime character, horrifying
>>54918813
kek, well done
"If your pizza doesn't arrive hot after deep strike, the adeptus ministorum will shoot you for making a complain"
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>>54918829

>mfw when they make it marines vs chaos marines
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>>54918829
No fucking way
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>>54918825
The stupidity.

One anon made a claim that Xenos are carrying Chaos.
Another anon said proof it.
Then the first anon acted a fool.

If you don't have proof for your claims, then keep them inside your ass.
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My newest painted librarian for Konor.

Be gentle.
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>>54918856
THIN
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>>54918663
Its been hard blacked out so I can't brighten it.
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>>54918856
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>>54918829
What? Source? It sounds really interesting.
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>>54918881
>>54918853
>>54918848

Facebook address

/wotblitz/photos/a.631077083588585.1073741829.572143336148627/1732010016828614/?type=3
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>>54918855
I'm a different anon from either one of them, keep the salt down anon
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>>54918856
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Dopey question inbound.

I'm looking at the new rules for the first time, and then I see people in this thread are making lists of 1000-2000 points.

Yet I only see this rating of "power" for what I assume are entire blocks of units in the 8th edition rules. How does one figure out cost per model in 8th edition?
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>>54918894
Then don't butt in. You clearly didn't understand what's going on in the post chain.
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>>54918706
Aye it probably would, im going to order in another box of kastelans, 3 more kataphrons and an imperial knight soon
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>>54918829
Really? That sounds awesome!
I really hope they give us the relic tanks.
Though I'll be fine with best tank predator destructor.

What tank do you want to see /40kg/?
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>>54918915
Its at the back of the respective books, with units and weapons having values. its a bit more of a pain to add up, but this'll allow them to adjust points values in the future without needing to reprint the entire book.
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>>54918573
>Usual FB address followed by

>>54918891
>Facebook address


How hard is it to do this right?

https://www.facebook.com
/GWWarhammerAgeofSigmar/videos/678616285668501/

https://www.facebook.com
/wotblitz/photos/a.631077083588585.1073741829.572143336148627/1732010016828614/?type=3&theater
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>>54918829
World of Pay to Win, is making a game about a game of Pay to Win.
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>>54917948
>CSM are niggers?

It checks out.
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>>54918915
In the back of the books it has the individual points costs for units and gear.

Power Level is best used as a casual shorthand for friendly pick up games where you're not too worried that the other guys Tac Squad has a Lascannon instead of a Heavy Bolter, though there a few units that are dramatically under or overcosted in one format or the other.
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>>54918044
2THICC 2FURIOUS
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>>54918960
Captcha literally wouldn't let me do that earlier when I posted the first one

Chill out champ
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>>54918891
>>54918960
>all those butthurt historical fags in the comments
It's like /twg/ all over again.
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>>54918974
>Captcha literally wouldn't let me do that earlier

It would, since I just did it.
All you need to do is insert a newline character somewhere.
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>>54918829
>>54918946
Its not a 40k tank game, its 40k tanks in blitz, i.e. the casual mobile game.

Kinda hyped, but i really hope they make A) a 40k-only tank room, and B) ensure enough variety to keep it interesting

Space Marines, Eldar, Orks, IG, each with basic (falcon, pred, gun wagon, Leman), middle (Fire Prism/i dunno eldar, sicaran/LR, battlewagon, malc/macharius) and superheavies (lynx, fellblade/glaive/falchion, killtanks, the entire fucking baneblade family)
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>>54918946
Hammerheads, I want to see the 6 weapons
>Railgun
Should rape anything with slow rpm and stupid range
>Ion Cannon
Higher rate of fire and less damage, overcharge mode does more damage but may harm self, medium range
>Missile Pods
Slow reload, medium damage of missiles, medium-long range
>Fusion Cannon
High damage, splash, medium-short range, low rpm
>Plasma cannon
longer range fusion cannon with less damage and larger splash
>Burst cannons
lots of shots, medium-short range, low damage per shot
>Sky Ray
Alt fire designates target, main fire uses a seeker missile that has stupid range and high damage

Secondary Weapons
>gun drones
ai controlled guns with low damage, can be disengages which will let shit-tier ai drive them up to someone and die
>burst cannons, simple secondary weapon with high rate of fire and low damage
>smart missile system
a barrage weapon with low damage but can fire from behind obstacles
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>>54918170
>take imperial fortress walls
>give it 1000 wall sections
>theyre free and add 5 wounds each
>congradulations, you now have a letimately impenetrable fortress
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>>54918915
Points level in back of book, small and concise index-and yes, stupid as fuck.
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>>54918954
>>54918969

Ah! Thank you. That's one more mystery unraveled.
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>>54918031
Most recent WIP.

Still trying to decide on a basing scheme,
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>>54918752
how did we let it get so bad.
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>>54919011
>Its not a 40k tank game, its 40k tanks in blitz, i.e. the casual mobile game.
Just the mobile game? Aw, that sucks. Might be fun I guess, freeblade was fun, and there have been someother decent 40k mobile games.
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>Constantly do the dirty work without thanks
>only answered with silence
>even rembrancers ignored his contributions that won countless campaigns

I mean I know he was paranoid as fuck, but it's been actually shown that imperial records seemed to go out of their way to constantly ignore and not even mention how important Pert and the IW were in many campaigns. I can't even blame the guy for turning traitor.
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>>54919044
Its available and somewhat fun on steam, but its definitely a short, punchy game with little strategy other than wolfpacking with fast tanks or gunlining with heavies. If i'm killing time between classes, i'll play it, if i want a good game with actual thinking involved, then warthunder takes the cake
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Hmm North Korea feels like a parallel of the Tau empire. Short communists in tiny nation that no one cares about.
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>>54919058
Theres definitely blame to spare in his case; a better man would have taken it in stride, but stuff like the painting misadventure had to grate
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GW made some weird stuff for 40k back in the day.
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>>54919088
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Hmmmm…

Anyone have the mathhammer for what weapons I should give a Termi Lord? Relics too?

Chainfist sounds tempting but -1 to hit means no DttFE. Power Axe or Axe of Blind Fury seems nice, but regular Axe doesn't seem as strong but hits more often, and the ABF seems pretty strong but hits 5/6 the time, which seems pretty decent, but then it can also hit friendlies, and the Talisman of Burning Blood seems like an auto take, too.
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>>54919084
>Perty gets no glory whatsoever or any acknowledgement
>meanwhile Russ gets to genocide entire planets and be a flaming faggot and constantly start fights with other Primarchs but gets considered honorable somehow despite all that
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>>54918856
Thin down your paints, and be more careful around details. Oh, and never do pure white, do a cream built up to white, pure white looks like fucking ass.
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>>54919088
>>54919101
That's more 80's and 70's inspired anime stuff than the first lot of tau
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>>54919078
Feels like a rogue agri-world that got a hold of some inter-planetary virus bombs.
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>>54919125
Thinning I can do. I can't really be any more careful around details than I am, I've got a somewhat shaky hand and no amount of precision detail brushes keep my hand from wiggling outside its limits.

My white is actually Ulthuan grey, I hate using pure white for anything that I'm not shading into bone. How would I start with a cream?
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>>54919084
>painting misadventure
was 'dat?
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>>54919102
I'm not a fan of chainfists since power fists got a points drop and they didn't. They just don't seem 10 points better IMO.
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>>54919101
Robot dicks.
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>>54919147
You can find a better told version on the various wikis, but basically the Iron Warriors and two other Legions (I want to say Ultras and Blood Angels but could be wrong, popular ones in any case) were assigned a joint mission to take a planet, which they did with the Iron Warriors being assigned the grueling trench work as usual.

After the planet was conquered a painter made a great work about the victory, with the Ultramarines and Blood Angels standing victorious with the only sign of the Iron Warriors at all being a couple of corpses face down in the mud in the background. Perty didn't take it well
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>>54919088
>>54919101

Rogue Trader is unironically the best edition of 40k.
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>>54919183
Id be pissed too honestly
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>>54919102
AoBF isn't a good choice on a Lord because its negating his abilities to reroll 1s. On an Exalted Champ or something maybe, but you might as well just take a Power Fist and have similar (though probably not exactly the same) odds to hit and have space free for the Talisman. I think the only guy who really wants the Axe is a Juggerlord who gets bumped into the next big Str bracket.
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>>54919183
It wasnt a blood angel, it was an imperial fist banner. Just to rub salt in the wound
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>>54919193
Yeah, the way it was written was that was just that one thing too many that made him snap.
>>54919198
lol even better
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>release Chad Marines™ line, complete with new units and codex at the start of the campaign
>release half-ass CSM codex weeks in
>all the stinky-marines' new toys come out towards the end of the campaign
>and also there's 3x as many imperium players to begin with
And you autists STILL think GW is trying to refdice Chaos a win.

And before you call me salty I'm a loyalist I just like conflict and hate mary-sues
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>>54919191
>female warrior gabs
tell me more
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>>54919144
https://youtu.be/gWZvHhDt5mE
Guys a douchebag, but i cant deny hes got good technique, skip to 2 minutes in, get comfy, and watch it
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>>54918048
The Chapter Champion isn't too bad as a EC stand in as long as you aren't hunting for any thing harder then MEQ or GEQ characters. Base strength on the champion's blade and no built-in re-rolls hurts.
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>>54919191
>>54919088

Does anyone have a source for Rogue Trader stuff? I seem to remember a fan "bible" which is exactly the same ruleset, but written in a more coherent, easy to understand way than the messy book.

Why did FF have to name their first RPG the same, makes it awful trying to find stuff.
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>>54919078
Except tau arent communist at all, maybe eldar?
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WHEN THE FUCK ARE THEY GOING TO START RELEASING DEATH GUARD UNIT INFO AND STATS AND TACTICS LIKE THEY DID WITH PRIMARYSUE MARINES?
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>>54919214
>>54919144
Oh and i should point out, while he uses an airbrush, this is 100% doable with just brushes
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What are you guys running with your Salamander Lists?

Im trying to get into marines with very little knowledge but the things that have caught my eye are He'stan, Brayarth, flamer aggressors/centurian assault squads and storm shield hammernators.

Its a very close range selection I know but i wanna make the most of He'stan.

Red Pill me?
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>>54919183
>See the corpses, how they lay face down in the painting?
>yes...and?
>Those are your men, go fuck yourself Pert.

Ouch
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>>54919213
There is a female warrior and her name is Gabs.
Possibly short for Gabrielle.
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>>54919078
But Agri-Worlds tend to have at least decent agriculture
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>>54919233
Pert did nothing wrong. Thank goodness the Iron Cage BTFO the fists so bad that Guilliman had to save them and also have the imperial records rewritten to show that Dorn wasn't a complete and total retard.
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>>54918375
Any Dark Eldar players with Coven insights for me?
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>>54919234
>It's because she never shuts up
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>>54919250
>NOOO THE IMPERIUM CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE A PRIMARCH IN A PETTY BROTHER-V-BROTHER GRUDGE MATCH, I SHALL SAVE YOU FROM YOUR OWN STUPIDITY, DORN!
>I AM THE LAST PRIMARCH ALIVE AND YOU HAVE MORTALLY WOUNDED ME DURING OUR PETTY BROTHER-V-BROTHER GRUDGE MATCH! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULGRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM!
Guilliman was such a faggot holy shit.
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>>54918031
Reaper and his pimpcane can fuck off, OG crozius for life.
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As a Black Templar player what would be the best way to take down the following
Bray'arth Ashmantle, a MM/claw relic Contemptor, a inferno cannon/claw Chaplain Dread, and a melta lance/claw Leviathan. I'm trying to keep my army fluffy and can deal with the two dev and sternguard squads that my opponent uses for the relic tax but those dreads are incredibly hard to kill. Salamander tactics are used for their army.
For reference my anti-tank is comprised of a vindicator, Ironclad with chainfist, two lasbacks, and a vanguard vet squad with grav pistols, fists, thunderhammers, and storm shields. I’ve thought of buying 4 lascannon Predators and having High Marshal Helbrecht and a Lieutenant stand in the middle of all 4 of them and just prioritize the Leviathan, Contemptor, Bray’arth and Chaplain in that order as that many lascannons should wipe out one per turn. On the flip side I don’t want to WAAC and would like to remain fluffy with my army, but damn if it isn’t frustrating dismantling their army and then having no answer to those dreadnoughts. You guys got any suggestions?
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>>54919296
Guilliman wasn't the last primarch alive.
Dorn should have been a good brother like Guilliman and intervened.
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>>54918375

Check back in a couple of weeks just completed my 2000 points of coven but going on holiday, got a game lined up vs imperial guard when i get back so will report here as to their effectiveness.

Taking
Battallion
2x Haemonculi (one scissorhand, one Electro)

3*5 Wracks with Ossefactors in Venoms

2*4 Grotesques with liquifiers in raiders, haemonculi go in here

Spearhead
Urien

2*2 Talos with stingerpods
1 Cronos

Plan is urien footslogs buffing the big beasts, raiders and venoms rush forward shooting what the can til everyone piles out, haemonculi go character hunting while everything else tries not to die.

Already forseeing trouble busting open vehicles but i wanted a force that wasnt WAAC as my normal list is unbeaten at the moment.
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>>54919304
>Bray'arth Ashmantle
You don't. You literally just speedbump him because you'll never kill him without beseeching Tzeentch to mess with his dice
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>>54919296
It's just insane that the IF side of the story legitimately tries to paint Dorn in a noble light and that he knew it was a trap but did it anyway. That's so absolutely retarded it has to be false, there is no way you can look at the Iron Cage as a victory for the Fists. They let their fury blind them, and were nearly wiped out as a result.
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>>54919304
You bring a Falchion rather than four predators, or just dont play him.

Also, vindicators are flat bad, and that vanguard squad sounds like the biggest waste of points i've ever heard of
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>>54919303
pretty dope anon
where did you get that helmet?
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With the Blight War stuff, I'm getting the feeling that GW is realizing that they can make models for two game systems at half the price by just making Chaos Daemons/God stuff and sharing it between 40k.

Hopefully this means more updates and more cross compatible stuff, though that sentiment does worry for for your generic Black Legion type Chaos Space Marine stuff.
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>>54919250
>iron faggots actually believe this
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>>54919340
plastic chaplain, now sold as deathwatch chaplain which is same kit + deathwatch sprue.
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How should I go about running Nobz in my Ork list? Big choppa nobz with a klaw or two? Squeeze em in a trukk? A chinork kopta? A battlewagon?
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>>54919350
>literally made the person you were sent to capture immortal and unkillable, resulting in the loss of billions of lives over the course of 10,000 years, all because you were too blinded by MUH PRIDE to bombard the planet from orbit

Bananas sure are dumb
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>>54919320
Can he survive an Aquilla Strongpoint MacroCannon?
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>>54919230
Sternguard are another nice option for the heavy flamer/combi-flamer options or combi-melta loadouts they are famed for. My sister personally runs a lot of dreadnoughts with various flamer and melta loadouts. Don't know if you could afford it anytime soon but the Salamander's legion support cadre on FW gives you some kickass models for your army. Also since multiple units can fit in drop pods now and heavy weapons don't snap fire for moving anymore He'stan and a MM dev squad are a right nasty squad in drop pods.
Honestly Salamanders feel like one of the best armies out there for space marines due to their chapter tactics, relic options, stratagems and aesthetic. They handle hordes and tanks with ease while remaining fluffy and if you like sculpting or painting offer excellent conversion options.
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Reminder that The Beast wiped out the first Imperial Fists legion.
If Orks could do it...
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>>54919343
>Primarchs take over Sigmar
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>>54919364
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>>54919320
I've been finding that out lately, fucker won't let a wound stick to save my life. What would be a good speed bump for him, cheap storm shield troops?
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>>54919390
>unable to refute my point

Dorn a good banana, he dindu nuffin
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>>54919400
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>>54919376
Unless it has rerolls from something, statistically he will
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>>54919315
Looks pretty good, and I suspect it'll take a lot of fire power to down them between T5+ everywhere, ++5 saves and PFP. Let us know how it plays out!
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>>54919362
(You) can:
Use nobs in a naught'
Use full big choppas because price>power
Use 1-2 power klaws because power>price
(Thank fuck they have a save now)
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>he still has manlet marines
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>>54919376
Easily. It would chip his paint, maybe.

T9 2+ 5++ 4+++

>>54919399
Maybe, he is 400ish points.

So if you can tie him up for 3 turns with a few Storm shields he probably will only be a point sink. He is also super close range
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>>54919411
How about a Strongpoint Vortex Missile barrage?
D6 mortals on hit + another D6 on a 6 if he survives.
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>>54919337
Yeah the vanguard aren't great but I built them to expand off of, hopefully they won't be in that godawful squad for much longer.
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Any loreBoiis mind telling me what the deal with harlequins is, why do they dress like that?
Is it some clown cult shit?
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>>54918706
Don't drop the sicarians. Infiltrate is useful.
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>>54919425
That's what I figured with his range, let him walk up and then tie him up for hopefully a couple turns.
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>>54919460
>Any loreBoiis mind telling me what the deal with harlequins is, why do they dress like that?
>Is it some clown cult shit?
Yes.
They literally serve the clown god of deception, ancient space elf gypsy juggalos.
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>>54919460
They're servants of the Eldar God of Laughter, who's like a big clown.

They live in the Webway and guard the Black Library, a big spooky library that holds forbidden knowledge on the nature of Chaos.
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>>54919525
>guard Black Library that holds knowledge of Chaos
>Hurr Durr, better not read any of these, otherwise we might actually be competent when fighting Chaos.
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>30k is dead

Guys, we actually won
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>>54919460
They protect the mysteries of the ICP, although they don't understand how magnets work.
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>>54918515
The event has been just shit overall
>One side get's codex and a bunch of new models right before the event begins
>Other side gets their codex and new models at the end or maybe even after the event ends
And for a moment i thought 8E would be a new fresh start for GW but no, it's just the same old retardation as always.
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>>54919445
He's got a 5++ FnP. It has a chance to knock around three and a bit wounds per shot, but if you roll like crazy or his dice fail him, it has a chance. Its got a much greater chance of doing fuck-all. Sicaran venators are good, but he's one of the few things that can survive a round. The thing you want is a volcano cannon with rerolls, so a Falchion with a chapter master and maybe a lieutenant nearby, and maybe a command point on number of shots fired if its 4 or less on your 2d6, is gonna turn him into rubble, no questions asked. Eight lascannons can clear any high-armour chaff trying to intercept your penis enlargment cannons.
>>54919453
To be honest, Ashmantle is a pain, in that he's essentially unkillable without titan-tier weaponry, but also slow and not that killy for his points. Either kite him all game, let him chew on a conscript squad for three turns, or get a really, really big gun.
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>>54919540
Are you retarded? Its well established in 40k that knowledge of Chaos itself is a corrupting influence. If your job description is "Guard the Black Library from Chaos", then yeah you probably shouldn't start reading shit that can corrupt you to their side.
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>>54919425
How would he deal with Magnus Smiting and charging him?
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>>54919574
Hug him
>hahaha, Magni!
>My father had much to say about you, give nephew a hug!
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>>54919220
They didn't.

They named their second RPG the same.

The first was Dark Heresy.
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>>54919460
Imagine if juggalos were as badass and dangerous as they imagined
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>>54919555
Wut
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>>54919557
>I unironically enjoy ICP
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>>54919101
Those thing are just 10000% more anime than all the Tau stuff together, Farsight included
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How similar is the Grey Knights codex to the Space Marine one in terms of chapter tactics, psychic powers, relics and so on?

I'm curious as to how close the Death Guard codex will be to the Chaos Space Marine one. There's a lot of good stuff in the CSM codex that I would want in a Death Guard list.
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>>54919573
Why even have the library then? Might as well destroy it if the books are that dangerous. The eldar are just retarded dummies who deserves to die out
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>>54919555
Well obviously no one want to go back playing 7th rules.
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>>54919420
>He still uses gifs instead of webms
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https://warhammer40000.com/mission-4-into-the-hellmouth/

At least the mission this week uses objectives I guess.
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>>54919420
It is like you don't want to win this edition anon.
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>>54919574
Overwatch him out of existence, I borrowed him once since I had nothing close to a primarch for power level and shot Magnus down to 6 wounds before he charged. Bray'arth has two dreadfire heavy flamers that are str 6 ap -2 and d 3. I rolled 7 hits and got 4 wounds, two got through. Smites could have killed him but that requires Magnus hanging back, positioning correctly and not contributing as much.
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What are /tg/'s thoughts on lightning claw terminators in 8th?

They don't quite seem worth it, especially for Chaos where it's not a large jump in points to get combi plasma and axes instead.
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>>54919343
You're just realizing this now?
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>>54919616
They've done nothing on that front for ages though.
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Patrol - Craftworld
10x Wraithguard 450 points
-10x D-Scythe

Hemlock Wraithfighter 211 points

Hemlock Wraithfighter 211 points

Warlock 37 points
-Witchblade

Farseer Skyrunner 171 points
-Witch Blade
-Twin Shuriken Catapult

Battalion - Harlequins
Starweaver 99 points
-2x Shuriken Cannons

5x Troupe 123 points
-5x Harlequin's Embrace
-2x Fusion Pistol

Troup Master 74 points
-Harlequin's Embrace
-Fusion Pistol

Starweaver 99 points
-2x Shuriken Cannons

5x Troupe 150 points
-5x Fusion Pistols
-5x Harlequin's Embrace

Troup Master 74 points
-Harlequin's Embrace
-Fusion Pistol

Starweaver 99 points
-2x Shuriken Cannons

5x Troupe 123 points
-5x Harlequin's Embrace
-2x Fusion Pistol

Troup Master 74 points
-Harlequin's Embrace
-Fusion Pistol
1995/2k

Hows this looking friends.
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>>54919627
>The Tzeentch release
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>>54918031
Finished these last nights. Though there is a tiny bit more to do,
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>>54919613
Pretty much this. Absolutely no reason for chaos to take claws, unless on a lord and you're swapping them for a NL artifact.
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>>54918141
I know that feel. I have a box of warriors I have to hold off on painting until the weekend so I have something to paint with my stepson. Getting more plastic crack next week.
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>>54919610
>Overwatch him out of existence
>6D

Also, Magnus can remove his invu for extra rape.
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>>54919378

Sounds good!! I have no idea how to build a space marine list as I've been completely against them since I started playing (chip on my shoulder at them getting new stuff all the time) but I've always liked salamanders.

The biggest issue I'm seeing with them is mobility (as a dark eldar player). Looks to me like Brayarth needs a pod, he'stan and pals need a pod...

A friend of mine, an undefeated 8th edition SM player said he's basic list starts with;

Captain
Lieutenant

3×5 intercessors

2 Dev squads.

Is that something I should be focus on and add in my salamander specific stuff after?
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>>54918835
Because Khayon is sooooooo trustworthy an individual.
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>>54919651
That probably would have served that thousand sons player better
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>>54919613
The extra attack and reroll wounds makes them the best terminators for killing infantry.
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>>54919613
>>54919649
What about one claw and a combi?
Isn't S4 and a wound reroll statistically better than S5 with no reroll on both T4 and even more so on T3?
For +3 pts over an axe
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>>54919627
They did Disciples of Tzeentch immediately after Thousand Sons, and made Tzaangors a crossover unit.

They've already teased that the Glottkin and Maggoths are coming to 40k.

Vetock hinted that he's seen new Slaanesh releases being worked on in the studio on stream, and Fulgrim has been teased as the next Chaos Primarch in Gathering Storm.
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>>54919613
I think they fill a role you don't need. It also doesn't help that a stormbolter is better than an extra claw.
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>>54919701
This was quite recent though.
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>>54919613
I play BT and I like them, they mulch infantry just as well as they did before and now they can put some wounds into tanks and lock them in combat. I deep strike them in and charge and so far they have become the best unit in my army, easily eating one or two other units and becoming a pain for my opponent.
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>>54919683
Better on a khorne terminators with charge rerolls. I'm running slaanesh terminators for that sweet sweet double tap stratagem, so I'm staying out of cc for as long as I can.
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>>54918703
>Khayon attempts to shit talk the real deal again
Really activates the almonds.
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>>54919714
If by "quite recent" you mean "all shit that we've known since around April when 8th was still being teased", then yes.
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>>54919659
Sounds like a good core to me, but i'm not sold on intercessors being better than tacticals just for the sake of versatility in a tactical squad. You can totally add in salamander stuff with that as well, greenstuff some cloaks or dragon scales on things, add some character to your dudes!
Bray'arth doesn't necessarily need a pod because he is a tough bastard but it would help him catch his quarry.
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>>54919343
>Blight War
What is this?
What is this?
What is this?
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>>54919740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbI8T37eEvU&t=0s

Age of Smegma teaser.

New Nurgle and Stormcast stuff.
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>tfw you realize nemesor zandrekh is LITERALLY don quixote in space
Wtf why did no one mention this earlier? He's even got a little panza and everything.

I really want to put him in my army now, cept I'm nihilakh :(
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>>54919746
>Only Chaos and Ground Marines

I'm happy that in 40k other factions get to shine as well.
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>>54918752
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laziest conversion/kitbash job
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Terrain Day at my LGS this weekend.
Every hour there you get a raffle ticket for a bunch of $50 gift cards.
How long does terrain usually take to paint??
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>>54919555
officially? or just in general?
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>>54919592
no one ever said 40k writers were good
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>>54919746
So Horticulus is the 'Grand Cultivator of Nurgle' that was mentioned by leakers.

Interesting that his mount does NOT appear to be the same as the ultralisk-looking beast from the bottom left of the big DG vs Utra art spread though.
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>>54919555
FW deciding to remain 7th edition was suicide.

We played 30k because it was a better 40k

It will be back, but in the meantime no-one is going to play it.
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>>54919613
1 fist attack is .41 Geq, .35 Meq
SB is 1.18 Geq, .44 Meq

1 claw attack is .59 Geq, .33 Meq

1 power sword is .45 Geq, .28 Meq

Two Claws are bad, one claw likely isn't worth it over either fist or sword.
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>>54919808
FW is retarded anyway, they literally have insane amounts of potential profit that they could be making but are too lazy to actually do anything with it. Hell, rules writing in this day and age is beyond easy given how you can update things with the push of a button on the internet, and yet they STILL TAKE FOREVER TO PRODUCE SHIT
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>>54919844
I totally agree.
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>>54919639
Is Discount-Typhus already out?
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>>54919780
Yeah, I don't have a recent pic but I had a spare termie captain and converted him (back left), I mean Jesus Christ it took all of two minutes to put GK arms on the guy. He doesn't even have a force sword, let alone a nemesis one, and GK don't fucking do handheld stormbolters.

It kinda ticks me off they specifically bar Marines/chaos from having converted- or even old- models in their Codex because 'that's how they do it', then out of the blue they let us, only go have all the examples be the most half-assed shit on the planet. Jesus
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>>54919844
Fact that we have to buy codexes instead of them being free while you had to buy plastic crack is incredible.

Why the fuck would you want arbitrary barrier of entry?
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>>54918183
Looks like he has a super long neck
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>>54919866
The jew memes are not for nothing my love.
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>>54918765
When ADB woke up one morning and decreed it so.
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>>54918960
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>>54918486
orks are millwall
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>>54919852
Like, I could wright a blurb of lore on my lunch break, just to give an update on where x faction is and what they are doing. Then I could write rules easily, yet here I am still fucking waiting on campaign books and rule sets that aren't even balanced and will never be fucking updated either on top of that
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>>54918233
Use a guide
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>>54918532
Just for you buddy
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Will GW ever let a pure Kroot army be a thing again
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>>54918606
That's exactly right. Drop in and punish poorly positioned cannons, light vehicles, and characters.
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>>54919824
Thanks for the math.
I might "Rule of Cool" one claw with my converted cataphractii Night Lords anyway.
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>>54919343
honestly they should just sell all marines as dual purpose with chaos "upgrade" sprues in them.
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>>54920030
Fuck Kroot
Enslaver army would be cooler.
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>>54918563
Nagash was week!
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>>54920057
To be fair I've faced Imperial Fist looking army with Grey Knights rules. My favourite was the Iron Warriors with White Scare rules.

Marines are just one army with tons of special rules for the same stuff.
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Coolcron players, help me! I like creepy crawlies and robots and I think this gets around the general lack of heavy fire we have.

HQ
>Illuminor Szeras (143)
>cryptek- SoL (104)
TROOPS
>Necron warriors- 20 (240)
>Necron warriors- 20 (240)
>Necron immortals- 10, gauss blasters (170)
ELITES
>triarch stalker- twin heavy gauss Cannon (181)
>lychguard- 5, warschythes (150)
FAST ATTACK
>canoptek tomb Sentinel (180)
>canoptek tomb Sentinel (180)
>canoptek acanthrites- 3 (180)
>canoptek wraiths- 3 (118)
>canoptek wraiths- 3 (118)

what here's worth it and what's not? I like all kinds of canoptek critters, and everything else seems like a good build for a hammer n anvil strategy. What might not pull it's weight? Am I missing any good units/buffs?

>>54919993
Kek
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>>54919772
He's gonna get split in half!
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>>54920030
>>54920060
Fug Kroot and Enslavers.
Gue'vesa!
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>>54919772
I want some new Slaanesh with big dicks and tits, not this garbage we have now
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>>54919781
Let me get this right, you go and chip in to help paint the store terrain and they reward everyone fairly for the amount of contributed time with a (increasing) chance to win a decent prize? pretty cool.
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>>54920086
Leave that cuck shit in /pol/ please.
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>>54919350
The retcon is garbage and makes no sense
How could it be a fight where both sides had equal losses if the whole thing was a trap?
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>>54920097
You are not a true Slaaneshi
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>>54920105
Yep. Once a year they do it. If you're near Western MA stop by. I'm using it as experience on terrain that isn't mine
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>>54918138
They will. I'm 23 and declined the offer. In the letter write about how a community and running a shop go hand in hand and how you need a community to WANT to buy from your store rather than feel like they have to or should.
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>>54919993
Are soul grinders spam even good or this is just a case of autism?
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>>54920097
Is that a double pussy being cummed inside by a double dick?
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>>54919253
Talos and chronos got nerfed hard but wracks are much, much better.

A horde of t5, 5++ infantry with a 6+ FnP is hard to shift.
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>>54920116
>The retcon

Is as old as Index Astartes, the Iron Cage would've been the mutual destruction of IW and IF had the Ultramarines not intervened.
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>>54918817
My best fap in a long time.
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>>54920202
Goddamn degenerate. i salute you
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Are sonic blasters good? It's literary bolter -1AP but kinda worse?
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>>54918222
Is it orktism...or orktimism?
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>>54919864
>they specifically bar Marines/chaos from having converted- or even old- models in their Codex
Wait what
they're banning people from converting marines now?
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>>54920030
>>54920060
>>54920086
Kroot are just Poland and Romania trying to get gibs from the T'EU Empire. Fuck 'em. Thank God we voted for Commander Frexight to leave this sinking Hammerhead.
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>>54920198
I refuse to actually believe that when the IW details it in a much more believable way. I think Dorn would have died had Guilliman not arrived, IW was mopping up the floor with em.
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>>54920273
>the IW details it in a much more believable way.

>We could have totally killed them at any point, we just didn't.
>Believable
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>>54920086
Gue'vasa should be a unit, not an army. Probably don't even need that, just make them count as firewarriors.
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>>54920294
Perty was prolonging Dorns suffering because he was a master of attrition warfare. It's totally believable that he'd refrain his troops from killing Dorn specifically while all his sons die and he's screaming bloody murder trying to find Perturabo
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>>54918044

Try Hard 2: The Failed Meme
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So Chaos is winning this planet?
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>>54920233
>literally bolter
>-1AP
>kinda worse
Not a single thing you said was even remotely true.
It has the same range, strength, ap, and damage as a boltgun, yes, but it's Assault 3, making it 3 times better than a boltgun more often than not, and you can advance and shoot if you don't mind -1 to hit. Plus it denies cover bonuses I guess but that's kind of just a small bonus.
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>>54920273
>I think Dorn would have died had Guilliman not arrived
It says that in the page you're replying to.

Guilliman decided killing Perty wasn't worth losing Dorn, so he intervened.

Basically if the Ultras hadn't stepped in, the two Primarchs would have killed each other.
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>>54920273
>>54920318
>IW resorting to fan fiction to save any shred of decency
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>>54920318
>It's totally believable

Too IWfags I'm sure. But everyone else knows Pert has a bad temper and that he couldn't restrain himself.
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>>54920327
>Plus it denies cover bonuses I guess but that's kind of just a small bonus.
Spot the poorfag who doesn't play with enough terrain.
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>>54920233
They are absolutely amazing.
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>>54920337
Fan fiction? It says so right here >>54919250
It's two different tellings of the same battle, only we know that one side was absolutely crippled, while the other side's general became a demon prince. Tell me how you think this is even remotely a victory for the IF or that their telling of the story is even remotely accurate to what happened?
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>>54920345
Yeah basically, store I play at has some terrain but we really need more, but instead of buying terrain we usually just buy more models.
Though now that I think about it, investing in terrain for both me and my opponent to use would be a straight benefit to me unless I go up against Imperial Fists.
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>>54920233
>Not sure if loud is good.
Don't bother with Slannesh mah nigga.
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>>54920198
Why the fuck would the IW set a trap that could have destroyed them as well as the IF?
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>>54920401
Because traps don't always work, and they underestimated the Fists.
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>>54920161
Imo they're not good. At best 6 WS4+ attacks in melee. BS 4+ with Heavy guns.

Personally I'd rather a Prince for melee who can hit just as hard and much more accurately with WS 2+ rerolling 1s.

And it's guns don't wow me enough to be a dedicated gunboat.
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>>54920418
Traps don't usually work unless they are prostitutes.
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>>54920372
Do a >>54919781
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>>54920401
They wouldn't, that's why people call out the IF version of the Iron Cage as being false and not what actually happened at all, but their version of the story to make them look good
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>>54920431
This makes the most sense. Who lets themselves be fooled with propaganda?
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>>54920426
That requires a group buying terrain, or the store, and I don't think the store can afford it.
I don't intentionally try to know the profit margins but I can tell they're thin just based off knowing how much they buy things for compared to how much they charge, combined with electricity and rent on the store space I know they couldn't afford that.
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>>54920462
>Store can't afford terrain for players.
That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. Where is this?
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>>54920459
>Who let's themselves be fooled by such obvious propaganda?

Clearly you've never met bananas
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>>54920261
Not per de, but anything that isn't an official GW model that can be bought from them right now isn't included. No apothecary on bike, vet bikers, etc. you can get shit from the index, but it sucks they're pushing that away
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>>54920462
Then get the old white dwarf terrain guides and have a making terrain day
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>>54920459
Aren't most codex fluff the 80% of the time propaganda?
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>>54920535
Yes.
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>Iron Warrior's recount of the iron Cage
>Dude we killed, like, 400 guys!
>laughing legion.jpg
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>>54920480
It's a small time LGS, owner got contacted by GW who offered to sell him things wholesale for his store to sell, no idea why they approached him but they did.
We have terrain of course, it's just not enough to actually do anything worthwhile with. There's enough to hide in your deployment zone, but everything can still see everything else.
>>54920534
I don't think we have that white dwarf at all. I'll ask him if he does that.
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>>54920554
>Imperial Fists recount of the Iron Cage
>Iron Warriors died in droves and we were stalwart and hardly any of us died and the Ultramarines didn't come to save us at all by the way.
>
sulking_bananas.png
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Is there any reason to take Magma Cutters on Maulerfiends instead of Lasher Tendrils?
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>>54920554
But if they are super powerful and can't ever lose like you say, wouldn't that be impressive?
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>>54920582
>>54920586
Imperial Fists side says it was a draw.
Only Iron Autists claim it was their absolute victory, despite also saying that they killed 400 guys.
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>>54920161
They're like shitty Defilers now.
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>>54920616
>Ultramarines side says it was a draw and they had to save Dorn from himself
fixt
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>>54920616
I'd say any battle that results in you becoming an unkillable demigod is a victory anon. And the IF consider it a phyrric Victory by the way
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>Imperial fists reduced to less than 10,000

>Iron Warriors still have over a hundred great companies of hundreds of marines

Iron Warriors win
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>>54920625
Ultramarines are unbiased, and saved Dron knowing that he would kill Pert.

>>54920636
Only if eternal slavery to Dark Gods is also a win.
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>>54920657
>Ultramarines are unbiased
Hahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>54918519
Glory to Mankind
>>
Has anyone tried a mixed guard and SM army? With the detachments system you can take both really easily, and having guard to act as meat shields for your more important SM seems like a good idea to me.
That and guard look cool and I want to buy some without them being useless.
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>>54920233
Nah, 19 points for 3 bolter shots isn't enough for an elite slot. I'd easily rather have 3 Oblits over 10 NM.
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>trusting the Ultramarines view of the Iron Cage
>where Girlyman came and rescued two primarchs from killing each other like the perfect little sue he is
>lets the traitors live
It's shit writing even if you're a loyalist fanboy.
At least before if IW were winning and Girlyman arriving managed to turn the trap and force a tie, that would make sense.
I get IF are supposed to be siege masters too, but walking into a trap and then forcing a draw, only for your ally to show up to save you AND your enemy from dying in battle is just dumb.
All this rewrite shows is that some ultra fanboy writer doesn't understand battlefield tactics and basic logic, to the surprise of absolutely no one.
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>>54920657
Who the fuck would kill Dorn if Dorn killed Pert? Face it, Dorn was retarded and rushed in like a dumbass, and Ultramarines had to save their ass. The whole "They would have destroyed each other" is so false it's not even funny. The IW telling of the story even details that Perturabos shortcoming was that he toyed with Dorn too long by prolonging their destruction, thus giving the Ultramarines time to show up and chase them out. The Fists were strong, but they were at the mercy of Pert until Guilliman arrived
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>>54920636
>phyrric Victory
>His determination to do so had two motivations. First, Dorn of course wanted to continue his crusade against the Traitor Legions and the Iron Warriors in particular. Second, Dorn decided to resolve the Codex Astartes Crisis by accepting the Codex but willed that the entire Imperial Fists Legion would symbolically enter into the pain glove together and emerge ready and willing to reorganize into Chapters.

At the end of the Iron Cage
>Dorn got to kill Iron Warriors
>The Imperial Fists accepted the Codex Astartes

Dorn completed his objectives at the Iron Cage.
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>>54920657
Not him, but honestly what are the downsides of princedom? That's basically the closest to winning 40k you'll get
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BEAST WAAAGH!
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How do the malignant fartcasters play? Is it worth the effort to convert the models and make it presentable, or should I just build it as is and hope I can replace it down the line in my list?
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>>54920583
Cutters are about 1.3 extra damage vs t7 vehicles for 20 points which is good efficiency if thats what you want your MF to be attacking.
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>>54920712
>Who the fuck would kill Dorn if Dorn killed Pert?

Massed gunfire.

>The IW telling of the story

Which we've already established is false.

>>54920716
Unending slavery.
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>>54920715
All that fancy metaphor talk about pain gloves and reducing your Legion to chapter size doesn't change the fact that it's retarded reasoning that no one believes. It's literal propaganda to make the IF not look retarded for springing a trap they thought they'd easily counter
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>>54920716
Loyalists have this bullshit brainwashing shoved in their head that makes them think if you're a daemon prince you're a slave to chaos, as if everyone isn't already slaves to chaos since chaos just represents human desires amplified up to 11 and then reflected back at us.
They're just pissy because their god doesn't do anything but be the equivalent of a warp lighthouse for navigators.
>>
Certain infantry models taking up multiple transport spots is now only mentioned in the profile of their faction-specific transports themselves, meaning shit like Terminators, Ogryns and HWTs only take up one spot anywhere else, like buildings

Am I understanding this right, or has such inconsistency been FAQ'd at all
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>>54920327
Oh okay im stupid about the assault 3 part, nevermind.
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>>54920743
>already established IW telling is false

Maybe your dumb ass did, but it's the most accurate telling.
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>>54920716
Don't Perty and a good chunk of the IW hate all the sorcery and demonic stuff? or at least demonic mutations?
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>>54920757
>Kill 400 guys
>This cripples a Legion somehow

IW telling is the most patently false.
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>>54920716
You're immortal but you're completely at the beck and call of your god and you cant leave the warp without help.

So you're basically locked in a room with your insane boss for eternity.
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>>54920562
My local stores were also approached by GW, which was surprising as GW refused them access to warhammer related items numerous times in the past as we already had an official GW store here but now every little mom and pop shop can carry and they've even been sending huge "welcome to the family" type shipments as gifts to the stores for selling GW stuff. Worked wonders for the scene as there are groups of players popping up everywhere and the stores are getting pretty good boosts from all the increased traffic (one of the smaller shops actually had to expand as there wasnt enough room and the boss finally had enough to do it comfortably). Man I tell ya, this "new GW™" shit is weird but in a good way
>>
Choppy cultists or shooty cultists, with alpha legion?
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>>54920696
Yeah it lets you cover both factions weaknesses. SM have poor troops slots and expensive HQ which is the opposite of guard.
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>>54920745
>retarded reasoning

You DO know those were Dorn's objectives right? Dorn, the Primarch who purposely tortured himself. Dorn is not a smart Primarch.

The Iron Cage was a win-win. A fight where BOTH sides won.

In fact if the Imperial Fists wiped out the Iron Warriors there. It would of made the Codex Astartes Crisis WORSE as it was PROOF that keeping the Legion organization was a good idea and it would've made Dorn's sons even MORE against the Codex.
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>>54920755
Yeah, I noticed every piece of sonic equipment is assault, even blastmaster can be fired at assault d6.
As a result, noise marines are much more mobile that last edition, with salvo we kind of just defaulted to gun lines and the "Dick in a Box" strategy where you'd park a rhino behind cover and just have a pair of Blastmasters shooting out of it, no one else in the squad even had anything.
Now with assault weapons and Noise Marines being a legit threat in melee, we have more reason to be mobile.
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>>54918141
How'd you get that shade of green?
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>>54920789
well you still need to buy SM HQ for their detachment afaik
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>>54920776
Cultist do a surprising amount of shooting damage for their cost, especially if you actually take the flamers. I wouldn't go ccw without an exalted champion.
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I thought all the IF died in the Beast books?

Or is that just a meme? If it isn't then who gives a fuck about what an extinct legion did in the Iron Cage
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>>54920729
I like mine a lot. If you have him with Typhus and the poxwalkers up near a fight then you get about 2 free mortal wounds per psy phase + plague wind is a beast on horde armies
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>>54920835
Yes but you only need one for your SM vanguard or patrol or whatever instead of two. Then an entire IG Battalion is like 160 points at minimum.
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>>54918031
These guys here. Getting some mandrakes finally tomorrow. General consensus is units of 10 mandrakes work best right?
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>>54919854
that looks like a conversion to me
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>>54920923
Ah shit that's not the fully finished ones evened out the faces and picked out a few more details. Work posting is for the birds.
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>>54920923
Much better!
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>>54919639
That's dope as fuck m8.
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>>54920907
yeah, I can see the upsides to that. I was just mentioning a rule issue that keeps popping up for me
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Should I start an astral claws army or a minotaurs army?

Both is not an option tho i wish it were

Also how should i run either army? Like what units should I spam or special/heavy weapons would best fit?
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I just got this message from a mate

>I'm trying to do world eaters, with a thirster, I know I can run them as separate detachments, but where does it say all your models need to be from the same dex to be in the same detachment, otherwise you can have like Logan Grimnar as HQ and guardsmen as troops in the same detachment... I'm confused

I seem to have lost my Collectors Edition 8th book and as such cannot find the page which confirms it has to be from the same codex in each detachment. Can somebody help? Please and thanks.
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>>54920980
I think your swords would benefit from the edges being silver along with the wording, other than that looking good!

>>54921032
Claws, too many Minotaurs here
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>>54921047
>>54921047
>>54921047

new thred
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>>54921038
Thanks might try that out!
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>>54921037
As long as the units share 1 faction keyword they can be in the same detachment. Codexes will offer bonuses for specializing but you can opt out if you want
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>>54921037
They don't have to be from the same detachment, they just have to have a keyword in common. So a detachment with gaurdsmen as troops and grimnar as HQ would have to have a keyword that all those units share, which would be IMPERIUM, making it and IMPERIUM detachment.

However, if that was the case, then the detachment would miss out on bonuses that you gain from having detachments with more specific keywords, such as the stratagems an ADEPTUS ASTARTES detachment gets, or the chapter tactics a <CHAPTER> detachment gets.
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>>54921081
>>54921077
Thanks lads, I was right, he'll be chuffed.
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>>54920769
>The IW would totally set a trap that would also kill them as well as their enemies
t.Bananacuck
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>>54921182
>Iron Warriors aren't good at their jobs

This is true.
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>>54917764
I was correct, the errata clarifies that you have to pay points for spawns you generate.
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>>54918624
Chaos would still be losing by a country mile. Chaos never had any chance in this campaign. There's like four times as many marines players. Assuming the two factions are perfectly balanced, and chaos sold just as many models, Imperium would still win by pure numbers.

Chaos was never intended to have a chance. This was always intended to be a stomp.
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Head to my local GW

Small child in a carboard box outside with £2.50 written on it.

>'I can cook, clean and I don't need to eat much'
>'ill dance for food'
>'wtf.jpg
>Is managers son
>Love.my local store
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>>54919639
Ayy similar paint job to mine brother
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Playing a casaualstronghold assault with 2 players with World eaters/death guard as attackers against Imperial guard/white scars as defenders

We are two guys playing attackers and one guy playing defender. Do you guys have any tips and ideas regarding to balance or fluffy stuff i can add to it all since im responsible for setting up the environment and eventual special rules for this particular match.
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