Paizo Games General /pgg/

>>54485077
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/81935/essentia-our-last-days (Ends in 4 days)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/82673/iron-gods (Ends in 1 week) (suspected bamboozle)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83254/carnal-crown (Ends in 2 weeks)
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/83277/the-fiends-and-intrigues-of-house-karvane (Ends in 1 month)

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>>54485077
I just want to play a turtle with a shotgun.

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>>54485168
Vesk from a High Gravity world. Focus on Heavy armor.

Your turn: what's his/her motivation and backstory?

>>54485163
Why is iron gods a suspected bamboozle? Did I miss something?

>>54485232
The DM disappeared for 5 days by now without any notice whatsoever.
Given that it's a sockpuppet account with 0 hours played, that's grounds for worry.

Has anyone reviewed the Carnal Crown apps yet?

>>54485283
We're waiting for you to submit your character so we can do t right and proper

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>>54485163
Why does Iron Gods have TWO Kemono Friends Large sized animalgirl crafters who lived with Baine?

>>54485345
Because Baine is a lewdist.

>>54485192
I'd love to tell you, but other than general turtle mannerisms and personality, I tend to adjust background based on game.

He speaks slowly and carries a big stick, basically Teddy if he was a turtle.

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>>54485077
None, since I'm running a PF game at the LGS.

If only the players would email me about the game between sessions.

>>54485077
None!

I have so many character ideas, but no time!

>>54485077
I have a limited schedule so I'm keeping myself from applying to games until Starfinder drops. I did write an app for Carnal Crown I won't be posting that's just a stereotypical vampire hunter, and it'll be a bit disappointing that I won't get to play the whip build.

None. They all look like ass.

>>54485077
I have no games I want to apply to, or even have time to apply to, but I also have too many fucking characters to even keep track of them all. Sooner or later I want to play a Lion Catfolk with a Lion animal companion.

Why do people continue to make anime applications when we know they don't work?

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>joke about getting our Dhampir a coffin to travel in, due to their aversion to sunlight
>she actually agrees, and asks if I could enchant it too

So this is what meme-ing too hard feels like.

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>>54485713
Lots of games took in anime applications.

>>54485730
Good going, Chaika-anon!

masks for musclegirls never

>>54485713
>>54485741
Examples from you two please?

>>54485283
Someone did a single review last week but hasn't been heard from since, so I'd say they're probably dead just like Iron Gods reviewanon.

>>54485811
Darkstar in WotR literally uses lewd anime art.

>>54485516
Which Carnal Crown characters do you think your character would have been most fun to play alongside, if you had decided to app in?

>>54485811
The number of anime applications to the number of accepted anime applications is downright disgusting.

Wait, is there no CHA caster in Starfinder?

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>>54485077

And android operative who decided to go innawoods to find himself and started working on his singing and guitar playing. He posts his stuff on space youtube under an alias because he's still a bit shy and embarrased about singing infront of people.

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>>54485769
Maybe I'll make one in your memory
I forgot the more important parts of that post, like the doofus I am: The heck kind of enchantments should I even put on a "luxury coffin"? A constant Prestidigitation effect to keep the thing tidy and comfortable during trips? Something that helps the healing process?

Then, what kind of custom magic items have you made or found? Anything that you're proud of and would want to use again?

>>54485345
Local ties is hands down the best campaign trait IMO. Being able to use either Know: Engineering or DD without having technologist is huge specially for nonhuman PCs who initially can't afford it.

You'll notice that almost everyone has it so I foresee the final lineup (if this actually runs) to more or less be some sort of multi racial family sitcom along the lines of Brady bunch.

>>54486076
>TFW IG is SotJR v2.0

I just want everyone here to know that I hate each and every one of you.

>>54486136
You're the only person in this thread I like.

>>54486136
Same here, I would actually kill you if I could.

Possibly joining a CoTCT group (1PP only)starting soon and with the chain coat from AA2 allowing dual wielding of spiked chains I'm considering playing as a full on follower of Zon Kuthon. How does this look for feats?

Human Two Weapon Warrior 6 /Sentinel of Zon Kuthon 10

Fighter 1- 1st level feats: Exotic Weapon Proficiency(Spiked Chain), Weapon Finesse, Two Weapon Fighting
Fighter 2- 2nd level feat: Divine Fighting Technique: Zon Kuthon's Flensing
Fighter 3- 3rd level feat: Deific Obedience
Fighter 4- 4th level feat: Weapon Focus: Spiked Chain
Sentinel 1- 5th level feat: Combat Expertise
Sentinel 2- 6th level feat: Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Sentinel 3- 7th level feat: Improved Trip
Sentinel 5- 9th level feat: Greater Weapon Focus
Sentinel 7- 11th level feats: Greater Two Weapon Fighting, Greater Trip
Sentinel 9- 13th level feat: Combat Reflexes
Fighter 5- 15th level feat: Improved unarmed strike
Fighter 6- 16th level feat: Vicious Stomp

Does giving water to someone who has been shot and its thirsthy kill him more quickly?

>>54485851
>Offering an example from Tuvarkz's shitshow
What did he mean by this

>>54485713
Anime applications are honestly the only ones that work in this environment.

>>54486501
But they don't, tho.

>>54486514
Which game do you run, Anon?

>>54486193
>Zon Kuthon
ew

>>54485963
Did they already write in what stats the Casters will rely on?

Either way, there's a 3pp book coming out at the same time about porting classes over to Pathfinder. It will be banned immediately

>>54486645
Tell me, which anime apps have gotten into a high-profile game?

>>54486808
>>54485963
There are two caster classes.
Technomancer, who is int, and Mystic, who is wis.

>>54486814
Rory and Rinka are shamelessly anime.

>>54486852
>Anime works because it worked in a shamelessly anime game from 6 months ago!

Pottery.

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>>54485387
Give him a Cigar.

Or is everyone in the future vaping?

>>54486829
Makes me wonder why he would what a CHA Caster, then.

I know what I want to make for Starfinder, oh my god.

I want to make a Kasatha continually LARPing as a Private Investigator based directly off of old Noir films. His mouth will be obscured by cigarette smoke and his beige trenchcoat.

>>54486687
Don't be like that. Who doesn't enjoy a little pain now and then

What's the best race-exclusive feat and why is it Natural Charmer?

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>Waiting to see if Starfinder even supports the kind of game I want to run

Now that we're finally getting some apps rolling in for Essentia, where are our reviewanons at? I want to see some lengthy discussions about apps, and I want it now! What are your favorites for the Council, anons?

>>54487017
A cigarette, a beer, a Space revolver, and what else will they carry?

>>54487424
What kind of game do you want to run?

>>54487480
>What kind of game do you want to run?
One with no space or aliens. I'm woried that the system will support space opera well enough but won't run well with other stylings of sci-fi. I've been keeping up and I'm good so far, but I'm afraid the book will come out and all the planning I've already done and will do over the coming month will go to waste.

>>54487017
That reminds me of a character I have lined up for an Eclipse Phase game. In case you don't know about that system, it's a sci-fi game set in a hypothetical future of Earth where humanity has expanded throughout the solar system and we've developed the technology to basically put your mind on a microchip. You can easily change bodies just by having the microchip put in a different body (a different "morph" as they're called in-setting). You can also upload your mind to cyberspace, become what's known as an infomorph.

Well, my idea was basically that a group of hardcore, dedicated LARPers had all uploaded themselves as infomorphs into a giant fantasy-world computer simulation. It was a huge group of people that all lived together on an asteroid station made specifically to host this simulation. So, my character idea is a second-generation LARPer in the group, as in someone who was born to a pair of LARPers and basically grew up in this environment. She knows it's just a big RP thing, not real life, but because it's how she was raised she still takes it all pretty seriously. So when she is forced to leave the station by the circumstances of the campaign, she suits up in a morph made to look like her character from the LARP, which is the princess of goblinkind (seeing as her parents played the goblin king and his highest consort.

So you've got this girl in a goblin more running around, using an oversized sniper railgun because her character in the LARP snipes with a crossbow. And she is very insistent about not breaking character, to the point that she typically only does so to explain to other people why she thinks she's a goblin princess and other important stuff.

A friend and I had worked out the relationship between our two characters, his character being a much more serious and no-nonsense sort of guy, a scavenger who is just interested in getting some cash and evading the law.

>>54487564
I feel this is a softball thing I should funpost at hard, but instead I'm going to ask again for more details.

Wouldn't there be a more appropriate system for what you want anyway?

>when a player dies and all they do is bitch
I hate you, John.

>>54487598
It's possible. My range of systems isn't so great that I'm aware of one, but I do think that concepts should be run in appropriate systems rather than forcing inappropriate systems to fit them.

What I have in mind I started planning and building around the Starfinder information already available, so as said I am good soooooo far. Have the appropriate background for every class, the technology level is accounted for, ecetera. It's mostly a matter of curveballs and system aspect weight that's worrying me right now. Basically, things like the power level being far removed from my expectations or starships ending up more integral to the game instead of being something I can cut out.

What could be some fun encounters for a group of dragon riders?

Also what are some fun school/academy shenanigans I could throw their way when the dragons are still wyrmlings and the riders are low level?

>>54487242
It's roll with it. Unless you're fighting in a box, you should basically never fail to both negate the enemy's attack and get out of reach of the next. A melee opponent without enough friends needs to pull a swift action movement out of his ass during a full attack or do something besides hitting to deal with you.

The only downside is nobody wants to play the race it's on.

>>54487564
Starfinder devs confirmed some time before you can run the game without any space just fine.
Spaceship stuff is an optional part of the game.

>>54485811
Noel/Scarlet from Hell's Rebels B.
The entirety of Hell's Rebels A.
There's at least four or five apps right there.

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>>54487690
Are they new to the game?

>>54487961
No, we've played together for like 5 years.
All he does is bitch whenever he dies.

>>54487732
Rivalry with Gryphon school

Think anime. Wyvernlings thinking they are going to the dance and 'dress' up with flower petals and grass they rolled around in

>>54488013
How often does it happen?

Is it his fault?

>>54488020
>>54487732

Don't forget the pegasus school as well.

Are there any ways to increase a mount's speed permanently (aka not under the effects of a spell)?

>>54488025
Usually only once per campaign.

And not usually, he just gets unlucky and happens to get singled out by 2-3 enemies that can't get to the other party members.

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>>54487732
Just hit, for maximum anime: have a full grown dragon come to the parent/teacher conference. Have the players try to find out which dragon it is the parent of.

Hint: It's the adoptive parent of an absent PC

How is Tuvarkz's WOTR going, anyway?

>>54488296
Only one session so far. Did 2 or 3 encounters, a lot of bugs. Ezpz. Next session is Friday

>>54488296
Nothing strange to report on so far, except encounters being not quite scaled up to deal with the 7-man gestalt party. The SJW-bait npc is not a thing.

>>54488296
it lost 2 members already after its first session

>>54488351
Lmao which two?

>>54488055
pls

>>54488338
>>54488319
>a lot of bugs
>encounters being not quite scaled up

... He didn't just run it straight from the book, right? Like you weren't 7 (?) level 4 gestalts with 3pp and huge point buys fighting CR1/2 cockroaches, right?

Right?

>>54488338
>SJW-bait npc
lol

>>54488396
Get it boots of springing and striding done up to fit its slot.

>>54488423
thanks

>>54488410
Nah, the bugs had definitely gotten a few powerups, judging by the amount of punishment they had to take before going down. And the climb sequence managed to split our party pretty well, landing our squishy casters right in the thick of it. Still, it was definitely a bit underwhelming.

>>54488363
Ruhiel and some other person

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>>54487858
>The entirety of Hell's Rebels A.

Literally just a quarantine game for 2hu.

Which of DHB's class's archetypes are the best? Which is the highest tier?

>>54486206
No, it doesn't do any harm. The reason you don't give food or water to someone who is injured in modern times is because they might have to operate, and if he has food or water in his system and he is sedated, he could choke on his own vomit and die when the sedatives and anesthesia make him sick.

>>54488475
Checking, only Ruhiel's player has actually left the game. Who else are you talking about?

>>54488495
That archer is so fluffy, I want to hug her!

>>54488533
>Ruhiel's player has actually left the game
There goes 90% of the group's damage.

>>54488338
He... What did he do to Anevia? Irabeth?

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>Another falls victim to Iron gods bamboozle
>Motherfucker isnt even using the right campaign traits

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>>54488495
While your post itself is the worst of shitposts, your image reminds me that I need actual pictures of archers, since all I have on-hand is fire emblem art. Archer girls would be nice, but I know I'm just going to get endless fire emblem and anime girls, one of which I could just find myself.

>>54488475
Ha! So it's down to just one member of the original top 6 Tuv wanted? Too funny!

>>54487480
>What else will they carry?

Nothing, that hand will be in his pocket. If it needs to be doing something, it will be thumbing a silver dollar.

>>54488594
Don't remember the name of it, but the "muh genderfluid" starter NPC was written out of the game. Good riddance desu.
>>54488576
To be honest, I feel like the game will be a lot more enjoyable without Ruhiel just steamrolldunking everything and everyone. Half-giant PoW is a pretty op meme.

>>54488338
Why are there 7 people anyway?

>>54488657
Tuvarkz is greedy.
Also Mordred.

>>54488619
Make a character art thread. If I can find the motivation to get on my actual computer, I'll post in it.

>>54488650
Anevia wasn't a bad character, though? In fact, if Tuvarkz had such a problem with her he could've made her a "natural" woman, as in she was ALWAYS a woman.

Hell, you could've made Irabeth into a half-Orc bara hunk.

Well, /pfg/, my bard died. I was given a choice to come back by my GM however, as my party can't afford to resurrect me. My choices are:
>come back with the ghoul corruption
>come back with one level ahead of the party, but that level will be in the reanimated medium archetype, and when the rest of the party levels up, I will not level as they'll be catching up to me. This level can never be retrained until I get a proper resurrection.
Which one seems like the better deal?

What do you do when one player is clearly killing the DM's enjoyment, but he won't admit it to himself and remove that player?

>>54488533
>>54488475
>>54488650
Too bad, I was lookign forward to righteous outrage and confusion when the Lawe and Order fanatics realize they're traveling with a person whose mind and body are infused with pure chaos.

>>54488650
you don't need to be a half gi for the 4d6 butcher axe. Half gi just gets powerful build easier.

>>54488756
How deep in are you? If you're still really in the campaign I'd play it out a bit longer and try to guide the problem player subtly.

>>54488765
I mean the other Hellknight is still there (and she's the one with the bigger chip on her shoulder) so there might still be some of that.

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>>54488743
Second option has a way to retrain out of the archetype, which is nice. The other doesn't come with a method of getting rid of it.
>>54488619
I'll post images when I have a reason to post, since I don't like spamming the chat with art for no reason.

>>54488788
We've been at it for about 4 months now.

The player always seems to be late or a no-show, and the DM is clearly bothered by it, but doesn't seem to be willing to just remove them.

>>54488788
Early in the campaign*

>>54488803
Encourage him to kick that fucking flake out right quick, anon.

>>54488817
I wish he would. The player in question died today, but the party decided to bring them back.

So I doubt the situation will improve.

>>54488069
That reminds me of myself, except instead of once per campaign its 5

>>54488833
The DM probably can't be convinced if he hadn't already been. It might be easiest to just manipulate the situation as a player. Keep the problem player away from being too important by being active, try to fish for the hooks the DM wants you to follow to improve their enjoyment

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>>54488619
Hey! Archers!

>>54488802
>>54488878
>>54488619
I've never ever played an archer before. Sell me on this, make me love them.

I know they're optimal, tell me why they're actually cool instead of wussy dorks.

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>>54488795
I've already irritated that character so much I may have to worry about being slapped. Possibly stabbed.

Which will only make it worse, of course.

What makes a custom setting for Pathfinder more entertaining and desirable to play in? Would you say there's a lot standard because of the quality of Golarion as a setting?

Also, lots of people seemed to like the setting/lore PLD had, even if they didn't care for the game or its DM. What made it appealing, in general terms?

>>54488907
Because it's nice to be able to help out an ally from a distance, shoooting the enemy dead before he gets that sword thrust in. Also good agaisnt casters who hang back and buff their own allies, surprising them with an arrow to the chest and making them waste turns trying to kill you instead of your allies.

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>>54488907

>>54488933

It was just le dark soulz meme.

That was it. Most of us who expressed interest were more interested in the dark heroes stuff until it turned out that it was just furry transformations instead of anything actually cool.

>>54488933
>What makes a custom setting for Pathfinder more entertaining and desirable to play in?

>GOOD TONE
>GOOD PREMISE
>GOOD STORY

THE FIRST PAIRED WITH THE SECOND BEGETS THE THIRD.

>>54488933
/tg/, far all the supposed hate for lewd games and online personalities, really does enjoy a fine tuned world build. Most of the people who follow a few quests do so not because of the characters, the games, or the people involved, but because the quest masters built awesome worlds.

>>54488615
If Iron Gods is ded, can we talk about Carnal Crown? Which apps show potential to be interesting beyond lewdness?

>>54488020
>>54488049
Definitely doing this. Might add some harry potter house bullshit or some sort of game involving dragons. Points for each house and what not. the pc house always wins no matter what, much to the anger of the npcs

>>54488142
This sounds pretty fun.

>>54488970
This. PLD is okay if you make it about horror and desperation and gradual corruption.

It's actually being run as "lel monstergirls" and "RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE."

>>54488992
Wrong. Good story needs good writing. The first two require a good imagination. The third is predicated on a lot more than just the first two.

>>54488996
I wish it wasn't erp. I don't think there's anything wrong with erp games but I don't erp and wanted to play Carrion Crown.

>>54488996
>implying that isn't also dead

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>>54488907
>tell me why they're actually cool instead of wussy dorks.

You've never wanted to hold a finely-crafted piece of killing implement and use it to launch a two foot shaft into the opponent's sternum?

>>54488993
>/tg/, far all the supposed hate for lewd games and online personalities, really does enjoy a fine tuned world build

Wut? How does hating lewd and celebs beget hating good world building? It doesn't follow.

That's like saying:
>Despite hating salmon, /tg/ loves rubbing butter-scotch pudding on its nipples.

>>54488878
>dumb busty anime chick from a dead game
>doesn't even have her bow on her

shit archer/10

>>54488907
>Best archers are QUALITY build, which is one of the few excuses to be so in the game
>Hefty up front feat tax (PBS+Precise), but can vomit damage once you get later feats (Rapid/Manyshot, Deadly Aim)
>full attacks without needing pounce or shit
>clustered shots means even if you can't ignore DR you can punch through it
>can wear a buckler and not be penalized for it when using your bow
>magic item support specifically for bonuses to bows
>Q U A L I T Y

>>54489061
At what point does a build become quality?
12/20 enough or do you have to be 14/18 or even 16/16?

What are the core wondrous items for archers?

>>54489010
>PLD is doing exactly what it advertised
>HOW DARE THEY
Anon, just because you're not in high stakes magic mysteries that can decide the fate of the world, doesn't mean you should be angry about it.

>>54488508
Come on guys, help me out here.

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>>54489045
Gods, but I hate salmon.

>>54488907
Be the assassin-man. Calm, focused, and killing before the enemy have a chance to do anything. You're not about hiding behind meat shields or running away, you're being efficient and confidently leaving no room for error. You're not just being safe, you're getting the job done *fast*. (for a martial)

>>54489045
Because most of the best world builders do shit that /tg/ really, really, really hates.

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>>54489132
>Le Stoic meme
>Not making your archer as the excitable goof or the smug asshole

>>54489133
>Because most of the best world builders do shit that /tg/ really, really, really hates.
Like... What?

>>54489160
God I love smug asshole archers.

I want to play a Small mounted charger on a Medium FLYING mount. Like a cute baby hippogryph or something.

Does Pathfinder support this concept?

>>54489118

t. IKiD, AKA Vult Defense Force

>>54489108
I'd say the two stats being within like... four points of each other is a fairly good metric.

Not a hard rule, but y'know.

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>>54489168
>mfw I'm going to make one for the next big Meme Game

>>54489160
Run quests, make great worlds that are only used for lewd games, write anime characters into a fantastic world build, etc.

>>54489118
First, quit acting like a precious bitch, Vult.
Second, I don't give a shit that you wanted to run a game about rape. I just want you to stop fucking bringing it up here because nobody but you and the people you're running it for want to hear about it.

>>54489160
Smug asshole isn't incompatible with that.
And anon isn't looking for goofy, he wants to be cool in his fighting style or something.

>>54489133
Huh...?

It means /tg/ hates those specific people, not world building in general. Come on Vult, just because we shit on your rape game doesn't mean we hate world building.

It means we hate your rape game.

>>54489118
IKiD, buddy, no one will ever like PLD. No one will ever like Vult. Y'all passed the point of being redeemable when you posted logs.

Get over it, and please leave us in peace.

Is DHB one of the best builders/optimizers in /pfg/? What is his flaw/sin that makes him hated?

>>54489169
>hey, I'm going to use this incredibly overused and trite build except FLYING!
>cool right?
>guys?
>guys?

>>54489175
If that were IKiD, there'd be a lot more being said about DESPAIR and HOPELESSNESS and all that chuunibyou bullshit.

This is obviously Vult.

>>54489108
14/18 after racials feels like the best start, imo. Then again, I tend to play half casters and 25 pb, so I tend to put a 16 in my casting score before racial.

>>54489198

The funny thing is that not even Vult is happy about his game. He's been caught whining about being a sub and how he expected his players to turn the tables and start raping his NPCs, which is why he's been offloading some of those PC rapes on other players.

Also, he whines a lot about there being no traps. Even though he shit down the throat of every trap applicant.

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>smug asshole archer
boy do i have the character for you

>>54489220
......gee, it's almost like you didn't fucking read what was said.
>/tg/, far all the supposed hate for lewd games and online personalities, really does enjoy a fine tuned world build.
Holy fuck, you really didn't fucking read what was said.

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>>54489193
>Run quests, make great worlds that are only used for lewd games, write anime characters into a fantastic world build, etc.

>mfw the campaign is great, except for that one thing
>You know... That thing, THE thing, the thing that just turns the wine to vinegar in your mouth

Every single time, EVERY SINGLE TIME.

>>54489251
So Vult WANTED diamond dogs?

>>54489223
Minmaxes too hard, and has a serious problem matching the tone of a game.

>>54489178
>>54489245
One thing that makes me wonder about quality builds is how they can afford the items. Dual stat belts are ridiculously expensive on top of needing special ammo on top of the other basic boots of speed, cloak of resistance, not dying shit.

>>54489271
>Minmaxes too hard
You confuse minmax with optimize, but I agree with you on the sentiment.

>and has a serious problem matching the tone of a game.
This is a meme, he only seriously screwed up tone once out of like 20 games he's applied to.

>>54489269
No, it sounds like he wanted well-written men that would take the initiative in fucking his characters.

>>54489259
I did read what you said, and I commented on how nonsensical it was.

>>54489251
Yeah, that does sound like Vult. Wants people to read his mind, acts like there's a conspiracy to deliberately undercut him when they don't. Just look at him when he applies to other games.

>>54489198
You know, the thing that baffles me most is that you think I'm the one that brings it up still.

>>54489298

Traps and futa only.

>>54489300
Oh, so you're new to /tg/. Got it.

>>54489303
If that's really not you, then tell your players to knock it off. Inaction is still being a part of the problem.

>>54489252

I WANT IT.

I NEED IT.

>>54489225
Well tell me the overused trite build you catty drama club slut. I'm not trying to get a Nobel Prize for Literature, I'm just unfamiliar with building melee in PF.

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>>54489251
Hasn't 2hu been talking in Discord about domming players with mind control? And doesn't 2hu like fox traps?

Maybe we should do a game where 2hu's fox trap DMPC mind controls Vult?

>>54489297
>You confuse minmax with optimize

He takes a concept and pushes it so far beyond what the system expects that it becomes ludicrous. See his +50 to diplo, Cha to everything, at level 3 Oracle.

>This is a meme

Admittedly, I don't stalk the man like some people do, but his apps to RotJR, Blingmaker, HR, and HV all seemed to wildly miss the mark.

>>54489343

Lysander's player is one of 2hu's friends and pretty much the entirety of the 2hu defense force.

This could happen, but 2hu is too autistic to do sex probably.

>>54489322
>I don't have a response. Shit
>Better think of something clever.
>STFU. SUMMERFAG BTFO
>Yeah, that'll do it.
>I'm so witty.

>>54489333
You talk like a redditor and you get excited by reddit builds. Maybe you should visit r pathfinder instead?

>>54489333
Small chargers are overused and trite.

As far as flying, yes, you could in fact use the young templated hippogriff or gryphon for a small charger to ride. You will need flyby attack for when you cannot directly charge, and your fly skill will have to be incredibly high because otherwise you fall when you finish the charge as neither hippogriffs or gryphons can hover.

All this talk of ERP is getting out of hand desu.

With Carnal Crown being lewd memes and Iron Gods being a possible 'boozle, let's look at the two listings left. Both Essentia and Intrigue are advertised as, well, intrigue-heavy. What sort of INTRIGUE do you enjoy in your campaigns? What sort of shenanigans would you get up to? Do you have any stories to share about when everything went just according to keikaku?

>>54489356
>Admittedly, I don't stalk the man like some people do, but his apps to RotJR, Blingmaker, HR, and HV all seemed to wildly miss the mark.
>blingmaker
>misses the mark
>RotJR
>misses the mark
His blingmaker app was exactly on mark and the RotJR problem was memes. HV was a perfect villain, the GM just didn't like that kind of villain. The HR one was where he fucked the tone.

>He takes a concept and pushes it so far beyond what the system expects that it becomes ludicrous. See his +50 to diplo, Cha to everything, at level 3 Oracle.
No that's the thing, you can't minmax if you have no min. It was all max.

>>54489282
Well, part of it is that those stats can start a little bit higher due to point buy.

>>54489399
1 month long app periods is also a red flag. Nothing is stopping the GM from boozling out when the moment of truth comes and it isnt as good as he hyped it out to be.

I see invoking PLD in my question about settings was a mistake. Let me ask something else.

I'm making a setting, and I'm giving consideration to what the planes outsiders come from are like. I've decided that the home plane of demons is a giant, hollow sphere with a massive black star in the center. The star is a roiling mass of negative energy, souls, and arcane power, and its radiant light causes insidious fleshy grows wherever it lands. Because of this, the inner surface of the sphere surrounding it is covered in a thick layer of grotesque and writhing flesh, from which demons arise. Most demons wish to open portals to other worlds to further spread the corrupting influence of their home plane and dark (technically bright) creator. A demon can ascend to demon lord status by throwing itself into the black sun, gaining great power if they can survive.

But I want to know if the demons should have a civilization, a society that lives in flesh-warped buildings and organizes attempts to invade other worlds under the cruel leadership of demon lords, or if it that would be too orderly and their "society" should just be a wild, might-makes-right free for all where it's eat or be eaten. The former feels more interesting, but the latter is more typical to how demons are normally presented.

>>54489374
>le redditor boogeyman XD
No seriously, fucking off yourself. God damn I hate your type.

>>54489323
This >>54489118 was me. But that wasn't the post that brought it up, and that wasn't my players either.

>>54489435

This right here.

Can we quit shitting on people who aren't playing meme flavor of the month homebrews like Avowed?

>>54489435
>Too stupid to know when he's being mocked

>>54489325
It's just a typical fighter with an Orc Hornbow (adventurer's armory 2). 2d6 damage per shot, and it's composite by default

>>54489415
>blingmaker app was exactly on mark

Did you even see the party that got picked? Where does Colonel Sanders fit with that dynamic?

>RotJR problem was memes
Memes that started because his stated goal was to stalk Ameiko with +50 to diplomacy.

>HV was a perfect villain, the GM just didn't like that kind of villain.

He fucked up the tone so bad the GM had to step in and say "this is exactly what I don't want."

>>54489451
You fags shit on people all the time for wanting to play avowed, though?

>>54489493

Who's shitting on Avowed? They're like in EVERY GODDAMN GAME, often in multiples.

>>54489442
...So don't respond to it. I don't see how that's so hard for you.

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>>54489365
>2hu is too autistic to do sex probably

>>54489510
A full half of the time avowed comes up, it's to complain about them, unless I've missed more threads than I thought

>>54489424
Perhaps make the former a situation of the devils, rather than the demons? That is how devils would operate, and trying to instill order out of the forced chaos of fleshy growth and horrible situations would make sense for a regimented and hateful society.

>>54489374
>>54489376
Okay, thanks.

I'm aware it's overused. Just not by me, having never played any mounted character ever and very few melee characters. I may someday also play a hairy braindead Barbarian stereotype for fun, and there's also nothing wrong with that unless it's unfun.

>>54489527
Why are you posting Discord things? There's literally a rule against that in the group. Fuck off and remove yourself.

>>54489532

And that pushback is entirely because of their popularity.

>>54489527

Cabal rules, dude. What goes on in that server stays there. Not cool.

>>54489373
>I'll just ignore the primary example of what that other anon was talking about that's happening in this very thread right now
Really REALLY new.

>>54489517
That's entirely beside the point on whether I'm the one to bring it up, or the one to cause the shitposting about it.

The fact of the matter is, you're attributing to me the thread destroying shitposting that ensues from my presence, when you know that it is you, the anons of this thread who are willingly doing that.

You all have constantly blown my actions and opinions out of proportion, to the point of outright lying, and I'm concerned you're beginning to hold it as truth.

>>54489480
DHB backed out of the running for Blingmaker before players were selected. You can't say for sure that there wouldn't have been a different party with a different dynamic if he and others were still in the running during the final selection, unless you happen to actually be Wubu.

>>54489601
This post is confusing because you are talking about anon like a single entity.

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>>54489527
>that awful, eye-burning grey-text-on-white-background discord client
>posting screenshots of shit 2hu says in discord solely for the purposes of stirring shit

so the leakfag proves he not only does cancerous things, but he has abysmal taste as well?

>>54489552
>>54489570
If you can't enforce it properly then is it really a rule or more of a guideline?

>>54489650

Inb4 rory

>>54489601
Vult literally no one gives a fuck. There is nothing you can say to make people like you. There is nothing you can do, short of disbanding PLD and streaming your own suicide, to make people stop blaming you for shitposting.

Please, just stop this. Accept that this is the new order of things, and move on.

>>54489638
>this part is confusing because I don't know basic grammar
"You" is also a plural, not only a singular, anon.

>>54489672

Well, thank goodness we already have a second, inner cabal server to run to. The list will get thinner and thinner.

>>54489672
What do you expect, us to just kick EVERYONE and then let in people back through invite-only? No, that's retarded. We just expect people to have basic fucking human decency and the ability to read a bulletpoint list.

>>54489619
That's a facile argument. All the people who were picked were in the running prior to DHB's withdrawal, there's no reason to believe the entire thing would have played out differently if he'd stayed in.

>>54489601
I think your problem here is that you're conflating everyone in the thread.

Okay, here's how this worked from just one anon's perspective: Someone was bitching about PLD. Someone else talked shit about PLD. You then responded to that person by mocking them, and not only giving them cause to continue their ridicule, but you kept the argument going.

If you had just let it burn itself out rather than feeding the troll, you'd have been free to go about your day. Instead, you're chasing down a non-existent foe and acting like everyone's out to get you. It shouldn't matter to you whether people dislike your game. Fuck them, they'll disagree with you regardless of what you say. So don't engage them.

>>54489548
I considered changing that to the plane of devils, yeah. But I don't like the motif of "malignant, cancerous growth" for devils as much as I do for demons, and an unsettling city of flesh and blood and random biological growths doesn't really feel like a place of order. I thought that if I do make that the devil plane, I'd probably change it from growths of flesh to crystalline growths, especially orderly looking patterns like bismuth.

But that's a good idea, to have devils form such a rigid and dangerous society because they're a hyper-lawful race born into a chaotic world, struggling to enforce their strict sense of order on as much of creation as possible.

God, is this what happens to the thread without a steady stream of APPZ APPZ APPZ?

The perpetual existence of humanity and the resulting chain of events which led to this particular thread was a mistake.

>>54489734
>>54489638
>>54489698
Don't waste your time on Vult. He's too much of an egomaniac to listen, and he actually wants to feel like the thread is his personal enemy.

>>54489650
IIRC every leaked screenshot from the Discord that I've seen has been with that eye-blinding skin. I wonder if they're all from the same person.

>>54489745
Sapience was a mistake

One of these days I'm making a /pgg/ thread bingo so that I can ruin every /pgg/ we ever have.

>>54489738
No, this is standard /tg/ nowadays.

The idiots won, and now you are stuck wit them forever.

>>54486056
Pendulate Divan of Emperor Fortigre.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/m-p/pendulate-divan-of-emperor-fortigre-the/

Also, adding some kind of extradimensional space to it would be good. So it looks like a slightly fancy pine box, but it's also a king-size bed inside with a chillbox (with constant ray of frost) with a selection of wines, and it levitates slightly off the ground to make it easier to transport.

>>54488913
What did you do?

>>54489767
Yes, because you have to actually change it to that color set.

>>54489792
Won't have to try hard, anon.

If something has to be held to be used what does that entail? Can I use something like that by holding it in my mouth in the form of a dog? What about a prehensile tail or a tentacle?

>>54489738
There's only one way to stop it, anon. Tell us about your apps.

What AP should our next big meme game run, /pgg/?

>>54489924
Reign of Winter, though I'd rather have a custom campaign in Golarion!

>>54489944
What, like Intrigue?

>>54489924
Curse of the Crimson Throne

>>54485163
>suspected bamboozle

What?

>>54489960
Sockpuppet GM who's been AWOL for almost a week now. The suspicion is valid.

>>54489857
Depends on what it is and how it is used, anon. A wand and a sword are both held to be used, but their methods of use are vastly different.

Your question is stupid.

>>54489958
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>54489990

>sockpuppet

Wait, didn't one of the cabal announce they were going on vacation like a week or so ago?

That might explain things. More than a few of us have wives and kids.

>>54489958
No, like Merchants or Godslayers or whatever else you can work up.

>>54488996
>can we talk about Carnal Crown?
Could we not? It's everything awful about /pfg/ games condensed into one place. Just like PLD.

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>>54489944
>Reign of Winter

>tfw when you played in a Reign of Winter game that only lasted two sessions and had a lot of fun with those two sessions because you loved your PC
>tfw your PC required some pretty crazy chargen rules to make
>tfw even if another RoW game starts, you probably won't be able to play your old RoW PC because the chargen probably won't allow for it, and even if you did you won't be able to tie her backstory in with the other PCs like you did before

>>54490018
Can I hold a metamagic rod in my mouth in the shape of a clawed quadruped and use it to apply metamagic to a spell with no verbal or somatic components?

>>54490045
>its awful because its erp

Come on now, anon.

>>54490038
What we know of Intrigue is about 50% NOBLES and 50% MERCHANTS though.

>>54489959
>Curse of the Crimson Throne
I would be so on board for this.

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So who're the actual competent personalities around here?

>>54490031
>bamboozle
>sockpuppet
>cabal
>iron gods

I'm a pfg newfag, what exactly are people talking about?

>>54490098

StarToad was competent at driving out half of /pfg/ from the discord into a private chat away from him.

>>54490072
Name an ERP game that was actually good and not just something run between a clique of people who were already friends.

>>54490098
Inb4 celebs get name-dropped just for being celebs.

>>54490115
Get out while there's still time.

>>54490129
>Name an ERP game that was actually good and not just something run between a clique of people who were already friends.

A fair point but the two flavor of the week smut games in discussion here don't seem to be like that.

Looks like a lot of randies and obvious alt-accounts-because-we-don't-want-to-be-caught-ERPing applying for games run by obvious-alt-accounts-because-we-don't-want-to-be-caught-ERPing.

>>54490129

Hey, I'm in an ERP game and most of us did NOT know each other prior to the game starting, and we're still sort of feeling everything out and discovering things about each other.

Maybe part of the reason we're not a meme.

>>54490098
If they're a personality, they're not competent.

>>54490115
>bamboozle
/pfg/ slang for getting tricked, or more specifically, a game that gets people applying and then the GM goes AWOL.

>sockpuppet
Fake account. You should know this already.

>cabal
Discord group that's supposed to be kept separate from /pfg/ to contain namefags. It doesn't work. At all.

>iron gods
A published set of adventures that someone was going to run, but then they went AWOL.

>>54488907
>wussy dorks
Being an archer was the occupation of nobility almost everywhere except for western Europe, which still boasted noble archers for a good time. Archery requires insane strength to the point foot archers often had mismatched armbones and shoulder blades, and required long periods of practice to hone skill (which meant you were either someone who could afford to waste time practicing, or a yeoman). Good bows were also stupid expensive.

>>54490073
It's the wrong kind of NOBLES and MERCHANTS, anon-sama.

>>54490241
What king od NOBLES and MERCHANTS would you want instead then, anon-kun?

>>54490066
Yes.

>>54489299
>Fun fact: Lysander's player is an underaged girl.
source

>>54490210
>bamboozle
That's not even slang. That's what bamboozled actually means. To fool or trick.

>>54490239
Don't forget that a good archer was probably the single most valuable soldier you could have in your army throughout the Middle Ages, excluding the nobility.

>>54490115
A bamboozle is a trick or surprise played on someone, and in the context of this thread is usually lingo for a Pathfinder game that's recruiting players but won't actually run because the DM will bail for some reason or another.

A sockpuppet is an additional account on a website someone makes, often a throw-away account that will be used once so they can post on that website without people realizing who they are. This allows them to dodge away from an existing reputation and to do things without affecting the reputation they have on their real account.

The cabal refers to a particular chatroom on Discord which is focused on Pathfinder. Many people there also frequent these threads, and shit from the two locations freely flows in between. Because people in the cabal don't have anonymity on Discord, they can develop a reputation, which is something 4chan's anonymous nature is meant to prevent.

Iron Gods is an adventure path from Paizo, and a game of Iron Gods is currently recruiting on Roll20. It is suspected to be a bamboozle because nobody has seen or heard from the DM in a while.

>>54490257
I... I don't know! Oh god I don't know!

>>54490276
Being able to remove enemies at range with little risk to yourself is one of the greatest perks any army could have, especially since noble archers tended to also be -mounted- archers / infantry who were proficient (if not overwhelming) in close combat.

>>54490301
Well, we'll start with what you DO know! What is it that you feel is the wrong kind of NOBLES and MERCHANTS in Intrigue, in the first place? Start there and you might be able to figure something out!

>>54490239
Noble = wussy dork

>>54490375
>Not wanting to play a wussy dork
Coward is the best personality trait that absolutely no one takes.

>>54490375
t. "Sigurd Snake-in-the-Eye and Charles the Hammer were wussy dorks" pro

>>54490404
Anon... I'm planning to make my smug asshole archer as a complete coward when forced into Melee.

>>54490500
>tfw I will never get around to playing my Empty Quiver Style archer guy to be a MAXIMUM SWITCH HITTER

>>54485077
>essentia memetrigue game has a lewd trait

>>54490568
essentia doesn't have a lewd trait, what are you smoking anon?

>>54490601
>ties of blood

>>54490656
anon...

>>54490656
that's not essentia anon, that's fiends of intrigue, two different games

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>>54490670
Anons just throwing all the games in the same pot. "MEMETRIGUE"

>>54485163
>>54485232
>>54488615
>>54485253

One non-lewd game I joined took almost a month and a half before anyone was invited and we all thought the GM died.

It turned out to be an amazing campaign.

Politely requesting /pfg/ Discord link. Thanks.

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>>54490691
That's nice and all, but people who have been bamboozled aren't likely to give it much weight.

>>54490726
I'd wager the bulk of erpgame bamboozles are due to the GMs being alternate accounts so they can maintain the facade of a totally normal gamer, and they probably have other games they're running elsewhere to worry about. Bamboozling is still a kick in the blue balls though.

>>54486056
You better make that mask

Make it as pink and frilly as possible.

>>54489944
I'm surprised we haven't already seen someone try to run it, given how popular the campaign is here. It seems like it's in the top three for much of /pfg/, yet we've seen more of games like Wrath of the Righteous, Serpent's Skull, and K(Bl)ingmaker despite all of them being fairly UNpopular here. I wonder why nobody (as far as I recall) has tried to run it yet.

I'd sign up for it, so long as it's not explicitly meant to be lewd. Hell, even if lewdness is on the table for the game, if it's just "You can lewd if you want, but we'll just fade to black and you do it on your own time" instead of "Expect losing to mean you get pulled away for raping" I don't really care that other people might want to do some ERP on the side.

>>54490050
What was the build, Anon?

>>54490773
Someone ran/is runing Reign of Winter with people here, but I don't think there was really an "app" process.

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>>54490773
I don't get the hubub over mostly-lewd games.

I don't like CoC levels of "losing always = raping" and I want some non-lewd in there, but if a few players want to orgy in the inn, why stop them?

People have been using D20 for lewds since the first smut supplement for D&D back in the early 80's. Even official D&D had tits and scanty women.

>>54490711
Which one?

>>54490804
Not that guy but I have no problem with ERP games existing. I just don't want to participate in them, so it's a bit unfortunate when a game that matches up with my wants crops up but it's ERP.

>>54490773

I found Reign of Winter exceptionally dull, AP's are always so boring early on.

>>54490804
>I don't get the hubub over mostly-lewd games.

Because it's something which only appeals to a narrow subset of players, and no one wants to hear about the sex life of others.

Also doesn't help that the two champions of Lewd have been Dragon Game and PLD, both of which posted explicit logs, and meme'd themselves incessantly. I think explicit games have pretty much been destroyed by their connection to those two.

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>>54490804
Because people want to bitch about something, and it's easy to bitch about adult themes being handled poorly.

>>54490791
>mfw I probably could have joined that game
>mfw it was a day I could make, but if I joined then I'd have to juggle games
>it also meant then I'd have games three days in a row, and I didn't want to burn out

>>54490773
I know what I want to make for Reign of Winter and I want to make it SOON!

>>54490804
I don't really get bringing lewds to the table at all. Like I could kinda see doing it with some person your in a relationship with or fucking IRL.

I don't get bringing it up with folks on the net though, why put so much effort into what is essentially masturbation?

>>54490791
Doesn't count as a /pfg/ game then, or at least as far as I recognize the term.

>>54490804
Yeah, this is where I stand too. I don't want to have ERP forced on me in a game, but if some of the other players and/or the DM want to do some ERP on the side, it's no skin off my back as long as my face isn't shoved in it. And implied lewdness is totally fine, like you're saying scantily-clad women have been in D&D for a long time and that's because they've been in fantasy genres for a long time. Running across a few bold courtesans or an evil succubus and her beguiled guards isn't out of place, and I'm not a prude who has to avert their eyes from any hint of sexual implication. I just don't need all the specific details or to have my PC surrounded by an endless number of opportunities to bang or be banged.

Basically, this >>54490831

>>54490891
What is a /pfg/ game if not a game of Pathfinder ran by people who browse and post on /pfg/, played by people who browse and post on /pfg/, and recruited from right here in these threads.

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>>54490804
I think it's how much it's brought up here. People doing something in the privacy of their own game is whatever, but when they bring it to the thread and try to garner attention, it gets more annoying.

I just skip the posts, though.

If sharp metal bits are so dangerous to people when swallowed, why don't people just use command type spells to order enemies to swallow arrowheads and thereby cause a painful death?

>>54490915
When he said "I don't think there was really an "app" process" I assumed that meant players weren't recruited from here. If they were, it's a /pfg/ game. In my mind, whether players were actively, purposefully recruited from /pfg/ or not is the main thing that determines whether something is a /pfg/ game.

But, whatever. It's not like it's a term defined in the dictionary, it's more like a slang we all use.

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>>54490941
Because the system is an abstraction and hp doesn't even real. There's an ability to rip out a major organ that doesn't actually cause instant death, iirc

>>54490890
As an avid ERPer, in my opinion it is a couple things. First, the quality of RP is typically much higher than not, with much less monty python tier shit.

Second, it builds a strong emotional foundation to the character and the scene which normal porn can't compare against. It's still limited by way of being text, but you get to a point of apples to oranges.

Third, you get exactly what you want in your magical realm.

The fact that you don't get it lends me to believe you are male, and probably have never ERPed, am I correct?

>>54490946
>When he said "I don't think there was really an "app" process" I assumed that meant players weren't recruited from here.
It was first come first serve. It's how a lot of games here recruited until RotJR rolled around. Someone would post a discord link in a thread, and interested parties would take it and work something out.
>>54490941
Most spells like that
>have clauses that stop obviously self destructive things like this
>have very specific lists of what can and can't be done like that actual command spell.

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>>54490773
>What was the build

A gestalt Paladin//True Dragon, the latter being a monster class from DSP. My DM did a bit of homebrew to make a solar dragon variant for the class, so I could play a reckless young dragon set on a path of righteousness by the convictions of those around her, determined to melt away the frigid evil tainting the north with the metaphorical AND literal radiant glory of the sun.

Pic related, though I used a different one as her armor reference.

So yeah, I doubt I'll be seeing chargen rules for a RoW game that allow that build again, and at this point I can accept no substitute.

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>>54491038
I think I actually remember this. Wow. How long ago was this? Didn't you post about it in the thread back in the day?

>hired a guy and his boat to take us to a distant city
>turns out he was cursed by besmara, sea serpent came after us
>dude fuckign DIES fighting it
>we defeat the sea serpent
>with the sun coming out and me being a cleric of sarenrae, i see it as a sign
>it's time to redeem him
>cast elemental speech on myself
>since none of us know how to man a ship, i manage to negotiate with this sea serpent to push us to the city and give us protection
>go down in the hold, manage to find the dude was a former free captain
>by that logic we decide we may as well enjoy the free captain's life for a while
Anyway /pfg/, we had a great session, but we have one problem. We need a name for the ship, and we want you to help us!
http://www.strawpoll.me/13516724

>>54490991
>First, the quality of RP is typically much higher than not, with much less monty python tier shit.

Ironically this.

When I got into ERPing I expected it all to be the "owo rubs ur bulge" bullshit you see memed, and yeah, that's a lot of ERP out there, but the good ERPers are some of the most literate and high-quality text RPers out there.

To get off to text you have to be above and beyond, I guess.

That, plus the fact that your typical weebshit "i wanna play a catgirl i drew in ms paint" or your "owo" furries get ignored and never get into any good games leads to an astounding level of quality control.

Honestly, years of ERP has actually made me a considerably better writer in general. I'm not saying it's perfect or for everyone or that all of ERP is great (the majority is shit), but not every aspect of it is the shit cringe-tier garbage you see memed around online.

>>54490791
It was a first-come, first-serve game.

>>54490991
>First, the quality of RP is typically much higher than not, with much less monty python tier shit.
This seems odd since stereotypes gave me the opposite impression. I've never really experienced "monty python" tier shit at the table either, care to elaborate.
>Second, it builds a strong emotional foundation to the character and the scene which normal porn can't compare against. It's still limited by way of being text, but you get to a point of apples to oranges.
I mean different strokes, but I don't really watch porn for emotional fulfillment.
>Third, you get exactly what you want in your magical realm.
I mean you can just close your eyes, grab some lotion, and get that by your lonesome. I don't see why you would want to deal with the needs of another guy on the other screen.
>The fact that you don't get it lends me to believe you are male, and probably have never ERPed, am I correct?
Yeah. I don't see what being male has to do with it, especially since this is 4chan. Not hard to guess.

>>54491146
>I mean you can just close your eyes, grab some lotion, and get that by your lonesome.

By that logic why does anyone have sex? Jacking or jilling is infinitely easier than finding a sex partner.

It's completely different.

>>54490991
>>54491102
Not an ERPer but now I'm tempted to see whether this quality bit is actually true.

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How can I reliably use a Hornbow as a Human? Isn't that an [Exotic] weapon?

>>54491187
Use your bonus feat on EWP

>>54490991

I don't mind ERP as a thing that happens after character development and more for love than lust but nothing turns me away from a game faster than people doing it to masturbate to or "lose and get raped" games

i cannot handle the image of getting immersed and roleplaying into something intimate when i know whoever is behind the screen on the other side is jacking off to it (or will be at some point)

admittedly when I ERP i never do weird fetish shit and just keep it comfy and romantic

don't kid yourself about quality it's just as varied

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>>54491063
Yes, I remember mentioning her had having a few people ask about her, so I talked more about her backstory and stuff. her egg crash-landed on Golarion like a small asteroid, where the other PCs found it a few years before the start of the campaign. Though, it was a noble sacrifice to protect her, made by an overbearing paladin of an "uncle" that she had only ever been aggressive and rude to, that encouraged her to take his place as a holy warrior. Only after that event did she finally chose her own name, calling herself Vivexathurnkear which in Draconic means "Victory Against Darkness"- exactly the sort of impressive and lengthy name I would expect a young dragon to give herself. In actual practice, though, she was still very young and inexperienced, so I was playing up the classic angle of a novice paladin trying to learn what it really means to be a paladin. She also frequently complained about the cold, being a dragon with vulnerability to cold.

That was... Probably around four or five months ago, I think? The game lasted a few sessions, but we couldn't keep it together because of scheduling issues. I would die for the chance to play her again in a RoW game, although who knows if she would get through the app process unchanged.

Pic related was the reference I used for the armor she found and thawed out during the first session.

>>54491181
I'm optimistic for Iron Gods and Carnal Crown, but it is true the GMs of neither have responded to anything in days.

Essentia is interesting but isn't an ERP game, if that's what's up your alley.

The Memetrigue game people are talking about looks interesting too desu.

>>54491146
Would you say that spicy food is bad if you had never had it, just because "but it gives you the shits! Why would you ever eat that?"

You don't understand the appeal, not because you find it wanting but because you are ignorant of it.

Furthermore, the reason I guessed you were male is because men are far more visually oriented than women. They see a nice body, and that's all they need. They don't typically get beyond that for sexual satisfaction, but there is territory beyond it.

Can the Agile property be added AFTER an Effortless Lace is attached to a weapon?

>>54491187
Take the military tradition alt racial and toss the bonus feat for two EWPs, which you will use yo grab butchering axe and hornbow.

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>>54491249
>implying dudes can't jack off to some good words

Shit m8, what kinda casuls do you hang around?

>>54491248

Let me help you temper your Iron Gods expectations, it's six players. Starting at level 3 with PoW. For the amount of effort the DM would need to take to properly re balance the encounters he could've home-brewed a whole campaign. So why do people keep posting AP's with this chargen? Because they don't know what the fuck they're doing.

>>54491274
>typically

>>54491289
He's probably just on summer vacation, or is working really hard to make the game, or has a lot of job stuff to do.

h-hopefully

>>54491207
>"lose and get raped"
Anon, are you able to propose another way, preferably a better way, to RP out being the victim of a rape? Which is one of the most common sexual fantasies in the world?

>>54491207
Really those kind of games are in a sense very similar to the 2D platformer "lose and you get raped" games except you're aware of exactly who it is making your character get punched in the uterus.

>>54491299
That's just wrong. Men care [more] about there being a nice face attached the hole than women care about there being a Good® and Caring Daddy™ being attached to the rod, but depending on what kind of ERP it is, poorly written stuff is a huge turn-off in the way your girlfriend being a massive shitter would be a turn-off even if she gives mean head.

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>>54491264
>>54491199

This begs another question.

Is the Hornbow really such an upgrade over the Longbow, that I should burn a feat for it?

>>54491361
>inb4 evolutionary cuckolding shitposting ensues

Just stop this before it starts, please

>>54491326
How about actually knowing someone, trusting them, being betrayed by them and ending up in a horrible situation where rape is possible/going to happen instead of, you know, getting raped every combat by things that have no relevance at all and was clearly meant as an excuse for a bunch of men to jack off with each other?

If i'm going to get raped, make it emotionally devastating, which is the only real appeal of it to begin with. If I wanted to masturbate I would just go look at porn.

>>54491361
>but depending on what kind of ERP it is, poorly written stuff is a huge turn-off in the way your girlfriend being a massive shitter would be a turn-off even if she gives mean head.

Seriously, this. You haven't experienced just how important a bit of quality writing and build-up to a scene until someone insists you do a one-shot smut scene with them, and you find out the lack of connection to character, scenario or even the lack of focus on the partner's figure is just so... Off-putting.

>>54491401
But good ERP, truly good, can be a pretty damn satisfying thing.

It's a fantasy world for a reason, and in Pathfinder's case lewd isn't unheard of even in official material.

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>>54491401
Shit writing is why I don't ERP anymore. It makes spelling errors, weird grammar, lack of understanding of tone, poor ability to read your partner, and most other glaring writing issues so much more apparent. I can only do it while drinking for a quick laugh at this point.

>>54491362

Longbow average damage is 4.5
Hornbow average damage is 7

So it's worth more the weapon specialization on top of favoring an average, which is better for PCs

>>54491395
>emotionally devastating
Actually that is not the primary driver for the kink, it's about the loss of power for most people.

It's actually kind of fucked up to get off to emotionally breaking someone.

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>>54491362
well, look at the stats.

a basic composite longbow goes for 100 gold, has a range of 110, 1d8 damage, x3 crit

the orcish hornbow costs 130, has a range of 80, x3 crit, but deals 2d6 damage.

Both cost the same amount to increase the composite damage bonus (even if you go for adaptable), so that's a side issue.

Most engagements happen within 80 feet anyways (some as few as 30 feet if you're indoors), so if you have a way of getting a free exotic weapon proficiency or orcish weapon familiarity (such as by playing a half-orc) it's about as much of an upgrade over a standard bow as a greatsword is over a longsword.

If you have the spare feat otherwise, I'd grab it, but it's not worth taking something out of your build for.

>>54491401

>TFW you're in a lewd game and you're ERP'ing out of duty while watching E-Sports and eating pizza while someone is jerking off to you talking about your character

>>54491348
To be fair those games are really simple and take like 15 to minutes to beat and see most of everything.

I don't get why we don't see more(or any) frameworks where the PC's are the rapists. Seems much more conductive to actually progressing things. Where's our fucking Rance game?

>>54491501
Which one?

>>54491490

Hornbows are not "Orc" weapons are they?

>>54491501
I wish I knew where people kept finding good games.

F-List is a sewage dump and the while the Roll20 games look interesting they may or may not be boozlers.

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>>54491476
It also synergizes well with Half-Giant, since they can have a bow of greater size, then get whatever the fuck spell makes the damage dice bigger. You can even eat the dex penalty with a Zen Archer. It's the Butcher Axe meme all over again.

>>54491518
As in, they're weapons you could only buy if you know a guy who knows an Orc? Yes, and at the same time no.

Hornbows as described in the Armory are explicitly Orcish weapons built in Belkzen, however it isn't a difficult thing to fluff a Hornbow in, say, Taldor as simply a very powerful longbow crafted out of Darkwood.

>>54491395
Getting raped is a fantasy more common with women, and the kink isn't about emotional devastation, that's why it's a fantasy, it's about being held down, losing control, and being made to please someone much stronger than you. That's why the rape fantasy isn't the ugly fatass behind you in class (except for degradation fantasy if you also have that kink), but about the tall handsome prince in the provincial football team holding you down and having his way with you. The rape fantasy doesn't deal with what comes after the event (unless, again, you have certain other kinks), it deals with the event itself and being made fuck someone against your will, and the idea of your will simply not mattering.

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>>54491518
I mean, it literally says "orc" right in the name. Since weapon familiarity gives you proficiency with stuff that has "orc" in the name...

>>54491460
That's one reason I hate F-List.

At this point if the two big games turn out to be bamboozling schemes I may just up and run my own game. And knowing what I hate about shitty ERP will hopefully mean I do it right and avoid the same pitfalls, as well as mixing nonlewd and lewd.

>>54491440
>It's a fantasy world for a reason, and in Pathfinder's case lewd isn't unheard of even in official material.
Pathfinder isn't lewd though. People seem to confuse references to sex and sexuality with pornography and eroticism. The primary purpose of Pathfinder isn't to get people to jack off or turn people on. It's not a critical part of the experience.

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>>54491563
Do you have any idea what kind of campaign you'd want to run?

Would you play a campaign that is:

>once a week
>more martial/path of war focused
>largely focused on unarmed combat/grappling

Basically, would you play a campaign based around the premise that your party is all characters who are vying for attention and fame in a fantasy pro-wrestling circuit which entertains the populace?

>>54491511
Because most people don't actually have the stomach for that, see >>54491477. There is no guilt attached to roleplaying a victim, but unless the DM roleplays the npc victims in an unrealistic "their pupils turn into hearts!" kind of way the player is effectively getting off to being evil, like, them personally, not just enjoying the theoretical perspective of being an evil person and piloting a narrative from their end as a detached writer.

>>54491501

99% chance this is Overlewd.

>>54491597
>but unless the DM roleplays the npc victims in an unrealistic "their pupils turn into hearts!" kind of way the player is effectively getting off to being evil
That's kinda what I meant by Rance.

>>54491578

>PoW without discipline errata

Oh boy I sure do love 12d6 butchering axes at level 5

>>54491578
You had me until the thing about wrestling. Here I was thinking you were going for a Legends of the Wulin sort of deal.

>>54491611
Fair enough.

>>54491578
>once a week
yes
>more martial/path of war focused
yes
>largely focused on unarmed combat/grappling
no

>>54491535
>I wish I knew where people kept finding good games.

All the good ones have already been taken. We are the leftovers.

>>54491535

The game I'm talking about isn't particularly good so you're not missing anything

My fetish is emotional devastation. That is all.