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>>54473834
I might take inspriation from it. But honestly, I've had mechs as a homebrewed thing for a while now.

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What humiliating things have you done while mind affected?

>>54473834
I for one prefer a lower engineering level. Having great fun with Golem Engineering School, even if none of my players are engineers and they can't share in the memories of pain and anguish I have.

>>54473994
>I've had mechs as a homebrewed thing for a while now.

Care to upload the rules?

>>54474061
Ran like a screaming little bitch from a fight.

>>54474083
I'll file off the setting-specific serial numbers and post a link. It's just a few specific types, though, so don't expect a wide range of options.

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>>54474061
I'm the GM of my Saturday RoW game

One of my players made a bandit (afflicted with chillbane shakes) commit sudoku

>>54474135
I recognize that tiefling

PoW questions:
When do I have to say I'm using a counter?
1) When the GM declares an attack
2) After the roll but before the results are said
3) After I know if the attack would hit or not

>>54474182
This is mentioned in the errata, I believe. Check the pastebin.

>kitsune in the party
>GM tells you your wayfinder has gone missing from your inventory

>>54474061
Ran and hid in a corner from a bunch of dogs.

>>54474233
Wear him like a cocksleeve. That will teach him.

>>54474190
Found it, thanks!
>Page 31: Counters
>Add the following text to the end of the description for
>counters: “If a counter is compared to an attack roll, then
>it is initiated after the attack roll is made and the result
>is revealed but before damage is rolled. A counter that
>replaces a saving throw or other roll is used before the
>roll in question, and cannot be used retroactively. Other
>counters may have specific triggers (or not have triggers
>at all), as noted in their descriptions.”

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>>54474233
99 problems, and mind-affecting ain't one.

>>54474111
>>54474083
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P3YLpBfGXs1foYxuVS2GgyyYjF9FuqgIMjpY0TnCbPI/edit#

>>54473960
Nope, not in a single discord chat related to TG

>>54474241
Yeth hounds?

>>54474282
What are you so afraid of though?

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Is there any caster that allows you to play as Balthazar Gelt? (Lore of metal, rust, transmutation metal, alchemy, gunpowder and all of that).

>tfw foxtits will never bully you by time-stopping and then using her bullshit god-wizard powers to erase you from existence

>>54474343
Reminds me of Ghostbusters Quest. Kitsunes at or near 9 tails are more powerful than dragons.

But only in Japan

>>54474317
Fire. Lack of sunlight and water.

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>>54474322
Sounds like an Oracle! An Oracle of the Metal Mystery!

How do I maximum /Sovereign Citizen/??

>>54474315
Of all the days, of all the places, of all the times to fail a fucking Will save...

>>54474570
Freedom of Movement.

Is Darkness useful for tiefling or should I pick an alternate racial trait (also which ones)?

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>>54474633
Rise of the Runelords?

>>54474803
Sort of.

>>54474685
AM I BEING DETAINED? AM I BEING DETAINED?

NAY, NOW I CAN FREELY TRAVEL FOREVER.

Which classes make the best bath house workers

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>>54474061
One time while playing a wizard I got mind controlled by a serpent-folk and was ordered to attack our party's monk, who had the serpent folk grappled. Due to a wording issue I ended up fingering the monks ass with mage hand instead of attacking and easily killing him. The serpent-folk wizard said "get him off" so that's what I did. Our GM and party fighter thought it was hilarious, the monk not so much.

>>54474847
High wis classes, since that's a Profession check.

>>54474786
Darkness is no longer useful to anyone, you need Deeper Darkness in a naturally pitch black area these days.

Which alternate is best depends on whether you want it for a build or just flavor.

>>54474847
Probably some sort of Vigilante.

>>54474847
commoner

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>>54474825
Rise of the JADE REGENT?

>>54474313
Then just hit me up in PMs, I'm Sigh #7571

>>54474847

Sorcerer.

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Reposting from ded thread.

>>54473981
You will either be taking 5 levels in Gunslinger or 3 levels in the Trench Fighter archetype if you want guns to be anything more than a shitty slingshot.
Generally casters don't enjoy multiclassing at all, let alone 3/5 levels.

Do you want to be good, or do you just want guns?

>>54474889
It's possible.

>>54474894

Do you have PM from strangers enabled? Can't seem to PM you

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Late first for skinwalkers

>>54474061
Attempted to murder the rest of the party.

>>54474866

What alternatives would you recommend?

Where is Iron Gods reviewanon? ;_;

>>54475139
Dead, like our hopes and dreams.

>>54475139

Dead, just like the game.

>>54475139
Dead, just like my parents.

>>54475139
Dead, just like me.

Where did the better version of the SoP Improved Transformation feat go? What the fuck is this taxed nonsense the wiki is trying to push?

>>54475239
It got errata'd away.

I think what might've happened was they wrote down both versions to decide later which to go with, but forgot to remove one, so it went to layout and ended up in the final result.

>>54475289
That's stupid, is there actual official word on that? Did anyone save the other version? Because the version they went with is fucking trash.

>>54475302
They just updated the pdfs. They changed Light at the same time.

>>54475302
The other version was exactly the same, except you got an extra trait for free rather than having to spend another feat to get it.

And it's not so bad, a lot of traits are reasonable for a feat.

>>54475349
Don't you still have to spend the resources to get access to those traits, effectively doubling how many feats you would have to spend?

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What variant Tiefling Heritages would you consider bad/good/meh/broken from the Blood of Fiends table? Which one do you think are the coolest in terms of roleplaying/flavor?

>>54475034

>"I just want someone to pat me on my head and tell me I'm a good girl."

What did they mean by this?

>>54475365
The traits you have access to are the ones from the base alteration package, the talent you picked to get your Form from, or 'any the DM deems appropriate to your form'

>>54475396
That's the best feeling in the world, anon. Wanting to experience it is only natural.

>>54475139
I could try to review. Who still needs doing?

>>54475423
Elrana

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>mfw making a communist for Essentia

>>54475371
Demon and Oni are easily the best for martials, though Qlippoth and Daemon are personally my favorites to roleplay!

>>54475399
Oh, huh, fancy that. I still think it's fucking shitty that they just passed the other version or, but that's mostly because I'm a salty fag who doesn't like how much of a pain in the ass getting an "all day" form is. I wish the Beastsoul Monk was trading ki powers to get additional traits for transformation instead of the ghetto alteration casting

>>54475452
>>54475371

What about the d% table with all the abilities that replace spellcasting?

>>54475459
>I wish the Beastsoul Monk was trading ki powers to get additional traits for transformation instead of the ghetto alteration casting

This is why I liked blind swordsman, it just gives you the talents as abilities instead of trying to turn you into a caster.

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I'm currently playing in way of the wicked and I'm trying to explore different avenues of immortality, my character isn't magically inclined (Antipaladin) so I'm certain if Lichdom is possible, any other good ways to live forever without devoting too many levels/feats?

Would you trust a fiendish ancestor if you are using commune spell to contact him?

>>54475612
Oh btw, to my knowledge only official paizo and fire mountain games is allowed

How useful is Scent if you already have Darkvision?

>>54475612
Graveknight. Like a lich, but your immortality is linked to your armor - every single piece, so all you need to do is hide your gauntlets in two locations and wear a set not matched to your armor, or hide your shield somewhere.

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Anyone have that one character they miss playing? Whether it's from a dead game or your character died, tell me about them /pfg/

>>54475620
Hell no.

>>54475679
It's not so much the character himself as much as I wish that I could have gotten his personal goal taken care of during the campaign in addition to the overarching main plot that we needed to take care of.

>>54475620
Fiendish sure, an LE character has no reason to -not- see their lineage succeed but it depends on the goal.

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>>54475679
3 characters, actually. Dead games. I get somewhat attached, and their stories didn't really have an "end." Even death would have been better. I try not to think about the first 2 too much, since it actually makes me sad. The last was in a game I expected to die, so it wasn't as harsh, though I didn't expect to get as attached as I did.

>>54475679
I get invested in all my characters as I write them and the shitter is I write my character specifically for campaigns which means bamboozle casualties are especially painful.

>>54475679
I spend more time writing my characters than playing them, the DM always flakes or is generally trash.

>>54475679
I'm pre-emptively sad about not getting to play my Iron Gods character, since it's a bamboozle.

Alright you guys might be able to help me with this. I'm trying to make a monk that will wield an oar in combat. Refluffing a quarterstaff is acceptable, and martial archetypes are on the table. Any ideas?

>>54475679
Her name was Rubia the Red. She was a street urchin turned Ghoul partially based on FrankenFran, who ended up becoming the setting's equivilant of a Moriarity/Jack the Ripper hybrid in a high power mythic campaign.

She was by far one of the oldest living undead, constantly going dormant, resurfacing, and pretending to be her own copycat killers. Eventually she ended up running a side business as a fleshwarper/cosmetic surgeon.

She joined up with the PCs to fight against an ancient cult trying to merge all the elemental planes together on top of the material plane because... Chaos?

Despite her intimidating mythology the truth of the matter is the years spent in isolation had essentially turned her into a NEET who spent all her free time sleeping in the caravan she lived in.

In the end she had to join forces with her nemesis, the latest member in a long family line of detective clerics founded by Not!Sherlock who had been hunting her for centuries. After completing their work together and beating the BBEG Rubia was aprehended and beheaded.

The other party members who had grown to care for Rubia severed ties with the Clerics and delivered the majority of her written notes and studies to surgeons and fleshwarpers across the land so her work would live on. They then had a pyre and burnt her remains inside her caravan home.

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>>54475679
She was a clingy, emotionally unstable, violent psychopath who only barely knew how to carry herself in public. Her build was yet trash and TWFing in iron Gods meant all her WBL went into adamantine weapons instead of any of the necessary +1's. She had fucking abysmal luck any time a grapple check came up, and was frequently ending fights with single digit hp... But fuck if she wasn't fun to play anyway. That primal joy I felt secondhand from tearing through gangers, fleeing ghosts, deactivating a "nuclear" reactor while high as a kite, and rigging a tower with C4 and watching it blow from a distance still gives me shivers. She was a right cunt, but cared about her group too much to let it get detrimental to the game.

God damn I miss that game. I hope the GM feels good enough to reboot it sometime. Maybe with gestalt, if he's gonna insist on half the recommended party size again.

Are there any ways to have a Cavalier Order on another class (besides its derivative Samurai)?

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>>54473834

Backporting? No, but I realize more and more that Xenosaga's set up would be perfect for Starfinder having an ingame version of AGWS to help tackle large sized+ monsters as well as other groups who will no doubt have mechs in their arsenal

>>54475842
VMC, and...I think that's about it.

>>54475733
Wow, thinking about them has me feeling like shit now. Fantastic.

>>54475434
Tell us more! I want to apply to Essentia but I just can't think of what to make

Would people be interested in an anime-esque campaign inspired by the likes of Digimon, Narutaru, folklore, and other shows where teenagers control monsters where all the players get an Eidolon regardless of class?

>>54476148
Yes, I would be interested in JJBA.

>>54475679
I've got 3 characters I really regret not finishing.

1. A character who was bought from her parents at the age of 5. Raised to be the bodyguard and personal servant for the youngest daughter of a minor noble family. As her charge has gotten older, she's gotten a little psychotic when it comes to security. Some nights donning a mask, and assassinating the family's enemies.

Build was a super boring Max HP Vigilante, with Fist of the Avenger, but I would have loved to play the character for more than three sessions. Especially since the game was 50% comfy day-to-day noble house management, and the other 50% was HP Lovecraft by way of David Cronenburg.

2. A guard and from an upper class district, who got "promoted" to running a tiny guardpost in the middle of the poorest and most dangerous part of the city, after stopping a noble scion from beating a servant to death. As a person, he was a soft-spoken and generally agreeable intellectual, the kind of guy who could discuss philosophy, history, and art over a glass of wine. When going into combat, he put on a set of salvaged magitech power armor, and became stick-fighting Batman. Character joined in the middle of the campaign, and the first combat consisted of him walking into a room with eight enemies, and disabling all of them without taking a scratch.

Build was super cool too, Investigator/Warder using EG and IT with a Tower Shield, mobile bulwark style, and all the feats for Shields/Armor to Touch AC. Despite having a Dex of 10, the character was fucking bulletproof.

3. The third was an Asmodean Infiltraitor Inquisitor in Wrath of the Righteous. The guy was Sarkorian, had fought in the first and second crusades. He became disillusioned with the Mendevian government's incompetence, and sought out some people who may actually have a shot at closing the World Wound.

The character was super evil, but was pretending to be a LG member of the Inquisition. Great, great fun.

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>>54476120
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/5259219/applications/?pageforid=5326641#post-5326641

Gonna roll with a Karabiner 98k and snipe people.

Are there any race-independent ways to add a spell to your class's list from another's list? I know about Samsaran but I don't want to play one. Also IS Shocking Grasp the most-damaging touch spell in the game, no higher-level upgrades at all?

Building a Spiritualist with that archetype that just makes you a Wis-Magus with the Spiritualist spell list.

>>54476354
Skald's Spell Kenning, but if you're going Spiritualist, that's out of the question. Shocking Grasp will get you serious bang for your buck.

>>54476148
>Narutaru
pls no

>>54476354
Some ranged spells beat out Shocking Grasp.

>>54476354
Its popular because its the best tool magus gets. Its cheap, you can extend its use with metamagic, you don't have to wait around for it to become viable like the other blasting spells (fireball, fire snake, contagious flames) and it only becomes superb in their context: You don't hit touch, so the bonus against metal is valuable, and you use your 15~20 weapon's crit range for some impressive results.

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I'm too tired to sleep but too alert to stay awake.

Tell me

How can I make my characters feel more interesting?

>>54476548
I grapple with that same question all the time.

I guess just make them feel human? Display their insecurities, give them hobbies or things or pets they care about. Maybe show their inner thoughts a bit if it's in text. Have them geek out over something they're passionate about.

Like, the sorts of things that would come up if you're spending a lot of time around any given person.

>>54476548
Add conflict and plot hooks into their backstories.

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>>54473834
I already got my mech statted out. Too bad it feels like its going to be a bamboozle though...

>>54476583
I wonder if a backstory is really important. Maybe it's not. Maybe the backstory isn't suppose to be a backstory, it's suppose to be a window into their personality. Not like the personality section, which is bland because it just says "This is the personality" but like a backstory section, where personality is expressed through detail of history, and bits that don't give new insight to the reader don't need to be there.

SO it would be, your backstory must tell them about who they are now, and only speak of their past as far as it relates to how it made them who they are.

What are best examples of the good apps, from all of our games together?

>>54476584
It's not enough to only do that. There are more secrets.

>>54476548
Make them people. How do their pasts inform their decisions? What local phrases do they use? What do they like to eat when they have the chance? Do they have magic items with custom designs they like?

>>54476548
Don't make them so perfect. Give them flaws that are actually flaws instead of the fake flaws that you see today. Giving them wants and needs is also a thing, they shouldn't just be some murderous hobo that the party picked up on their quest to slay 200 goblins, he should be in it for something. Sounds easy right? Problem is, you should also not do this to the point where it becomes potentially destructive to the party.

>>54476629
Honestly, you can't really say who's best at making a character interesting by going over apps. Interesting apps don't necessarily make a character who's fun to play, and vice versa.

Like, I can't think of that many interesting apps, because interesting character doesn't come across in the roll20 app format. You don't see them worrying over small things, you don't see their inner turmoil, you don't see when they hesitate and when they finally manage to overcome their insecurities. You don't see the rare moments when the ladykiller can't find the right words, or when the nerd manages to be smooth.

And all people really care about at the application stage is whether they attract memes.

>>54476630
It's so weird. Sometimes these things are what gives a character life, but sometimes they are pointless filler. Who gets to decide if it's valuable?

>>54476666
Flaws are easy to make. Good flaws are harder. The right flaw is harder even more. But it's important that the rest of the character's characterness doesn't feel like a vehicle that exists to justify a flaw. Or anything. It's avoiding sounding like your character's parts are parts of a character that you need to do, maybe? So like, you have to make sure that no part of the character reads like "this is part is only here to make the build match the character or to support this other character trait". Right?

>>54476698
I think it's not a popular opinion, but, I think more apps should include writing samples and scenes for the character, or even RP scenes between apps. But that would probably open its own can of worms, and be so much more stuff for DMs to read for making their decision, too.

>>54476732
>RP scenes between apps
Knowing pfg its going to be PCs coming on to each other and talking about how big their tits are.

>so much more stuff for DMs to read for making their decision, too
Lets be honest m8, there is a point where an app becomes too long and gets instantly disqualified just because the potential GM can't be assed to read all that shit.

>>54476718
I think it's generally up to the rest of the group to decide whether it's valuable. If you're getting across a part of your character and helping people get immersed in the world, then it's good. If it's distracting or it bogs down the game, then it's not.

Who cares whether your character knows minutiae about armor, or food, or language, if it's all just there for its own sake? All you have to really do is make sure you're not being a fucking tool and doing something wildly inappropriate to the tone and setting. Otherwise you're just being autistic or looking like you're desperate to show off.

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>>54475396
They meant this anon.

>>54476698
I'm thinking, when people are good at playing, or have a character that is good for playing, the only people that would know are the people that have played with them. But if they talk about it, that becomes shilling or it's a clique. What a shame.

>>54476747
>Knowing pfg its going to be PCs coming on to each other and talking about how big their tits are.

Maybe that's good. If the DM doesn't want that in the game, they know not to invite those players.

>Lets be honest m8, there is a point where an app becomes too long and gets instantly disqualified just because the potential GM can't be assed to read all that shit

Yeah, that's what I mean one of the problems would be. I'm happy that we agree.

>>54476784
>But if they talk about it, that becomes shilling or it's a clique. What a shame.
To be fair, the more that happens the less we actually talk about Pathfinder. Sure, sure, there's not that much Pathfinder to talk about that hasn't been tread and re-tread to death, but it's divisive to just talk about some Original the Character's tits/dick all the time.

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>>54475679
I miss my Jel wilder, campaign died just as things were getting okay. Lots of people thought she was an albino. The party really liked her because she did weird things like squish.

>>54476718
It's there to help you get a feel for the character. At least, that's how I do it. I collect a few things here and there that help to build an idea of how they see the world, then add more as it becomes relevant. The party doesn't know most of it, but it helps me to understand the character more, which makes them more fun to roleplay.

Is it ever possible to make an undead themed campaign spooky? Pretty much every fantasy character has a brendan fraser-like attitude towards even the most unnatural of enemies.

I thought about adding the bloody template to otherwise CR appropriate skellies just so they would relentlessly revive and chase the players forcing them to find alternative methods of dealing with the threats like using barricades and taking advantage of the undead's poor intellect but I am a little scared that my players might find the encounter to be unfun.

>>54475434
>making a Flower Nymph for Essentia
KTKR

>>54476354
Spiritualist does get other things like Chill Touch, Inflict series, and eventually Slay Living and then Harm. You also get fucking Ghoul Touch as a 2nd level. They don't actually need Shocking Grasp.

Also have you noticed that you are actually uncapped on how many enhancements you can put in your weapon with the 5th level ability? If you 'nova' for a combat and have high Wisdom (daily pool being 0.5x lvl + Wis), you can be swinging a +2 Corrosive Frost Shock weapon at like 5th level, and in 2-3 levels you could potentially have enough to add the full complement of Corrosive Frost Shock Flaming Merciful to the +2 black blade you have. A +7 weapon is normally 98,000gp fyi. The weapon also has inherent ghost touch and the option to spend per round on being touch attacks. Phantom Blade Spiritualists are no joke.

>>54477166
essentia is getting some pretty quality apps

but isn't it a bamboozle?

>>54477132

Players have too much meta knowledge

>>54477132
Part of the lack of fear of undead kind of spawns from the fact that...you're not actually encountering them in real life. It's a meta-thing honestly, I think most adventurers SHOULD be spooked by them, if at least a little bit, unless they're like hunting them for a living. While villagers and the common man should be completely terrified if their best friend or what have you rising up from the grave.

>>54477176
It was quietly posted, and will quietly close, more than likely. Not necessarily a bamboozle, but I don't really know.

>>54477176
I've been trying to shill and get the GM to shill more, and apps have been picking up, so hopefully we'll get a decent party with me in it by the end of it.

>>54477254
karvane pls

>>54477218
>>54477254

from the looks of things so far it'll probably end up being a decent campaign

DM clearly has a good idea of what he wants to run, too bad i can't get into modern campaigns

When we will get a traditional high fantasy high anime campaign?

>>54477274
I just want something I can actually app to...THAT ISN'T A BAMBOOZLE!!

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After consulting a number of experts on the subject, I can conclude that I am VERY good at this bingo game.

>>54477291
What's up with the bamboozle culture lately anyway?

Is some guy out there so salty that they didnt get picked that they started bamboozle after bamboozle after bamboozle? How long until campaigns run by GMs with 0 hours/bad reputations start getting ignored out of paranoia?

>>54477274
When you convince XS to run it.

>>54477879
I have no idea...its very frustrating though. Fills me with despair desu.

>>54478075
I'm like...100% certain I didn't type desu in there.

>>54478085
I see you're new here. Did you make sure to lurk beforehand?

>>54477849
Do one for Rory

>>54477274
I just want a campaign that isn't some morally-grey Game of Thrones fuckfest. I want a game where the Good Guys are Good and the Bad Guys are Bad with occasional lapses, dramatic betrayals and convoluted love plots. Is that so much to ask?

Question and Sphere's of power and Retry (time) as a GM.

Is it balanced to let a PC completely remove damage from attacks of opportunities or other sources like traps with this?

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How good is the human sorcerer imperious bloodline?

>>54478289
But Rory isn't me, anon

>>54478314
Spell points are a valuable resource.
I think it's fine.

I'm gonna be running Curse of the Crimson Throne for some new players and was wondering if there's any unexpectedly brutal encounters or other general pitfalls to watch for dm'ing the campaign.

>>54478333
It's pretty good, strikes a balance between good fluff and good mechanics I really like

>literal nazi app in Essentia
top lel

Ok pfg lets have it out. Lets discuss ERP. This thing seems to be the most important factor in any pfg game and I will be honest when I say that when I thought of "lewd" games I only thought a few risque details are brought up once in a while or emphasized a little more than it would a "normal" game.

Maybe its the games I've been part of but it seems to feel like sex is everywhere and it seems to be the major factor in the narrative. Every player feels like they need to be sexually active otherwise the the rest of the group seems disappointed.

Is this normal for your typical pfg fare or did I just have bad luck with the groups I've been?

Its fun and all but sometimes the narrative feels like I'm taking part in a guided tour of a sex toy factory as the dialogue is more along the lines of "Look at that cock", "Check out how these tits jiggle", "Get a load of that puffy vagina" rather than focusing on the job laid out for the group. "Fail that percep check? Fall into a pit of upward facing dragon dildos!"

>>54478942
I know what you mean. There's a lot of distance between playful banter that takes lewd turns at times + seduction memes and occasional fading to black, and "futa cocks dangling in the open every step i take, mm pls milk me when we get back".

"Lewd" does not mean ERP, unless you specify that you're reaching for that 10/10 Alexanders score.

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>>54473385
I am playing Pathfinder in 2E Forgotten Realms, using the Chessenta area from Old Empires.

Chessenta = Delian League Greece
Mulhorand = Egypt
Unther = Babylon

>>54473186
The earth genasi was there because it was a farm, so it would be a good time to introduce her.

During the Twelfth Seros War, I can introduce the mermaid, triton, or sea elf waifu.

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I've got a martial with 18 strength and 17 constitution, and I got my first ability score increase. Should I start pumping up strength now or go for the instant gratification with con? Pic unrelated.

>>54479015
That too. Futa fucking everywhere its ridiculous.
There just has to come a point where rationalizing how so and so has a dick starts to become ridiculous.

"You see I had one too many drinks of night tea so I tried out bachelor's snuff and now I grew a dick~ tee hee"

>>54479034
That's pretty cool. I had considered using faerun for some one-shots, but the only place the new lore focuses on is the sword coast, which is hella boring to me. It's like they pretend that the North is the only place that exists.

>>54478942
>>54479057

What games are you even talking about? These feel like specific complaints.

>>54479064
Never any namedropping anon. But I have been to a few handful left some of them and am biting my tongue in a few others. Its an on and off thing and I only play once every few months so my experience is diluted enough to avoid giving any obvious cues.

Maybe I am just winning hte lottery over and over and my experiences are just the minority.

How would you stat a half-kobold?

>>54479103
Human with kobold racial heritage?

>>54478942
>>54479015
I'm in some lewd games where my character is flirty but has never actually had sex, and it's present in the setting but not a forced factor at all.

I'm also in another game that's maximum lewd where every dungeon has aphrodisiac poisons and every enemy a savage rape monster in waiting.

Both of them fill different needs and I like each of them. Just need to make sure the players are on board, and for that, GMs need to make sure the lewd level in their games is advertised clearly.

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>>54479063
That's why I'm using older lore. AD&D started in 1367 DR, 3.0 started in 1372, 4E started in 1479, and 5E started in 1489.

My campaign is set in 1368 DR. The Spellplague won't be happening.

>>54479107
I didn't know that existed. Thanks.

>>54479135
>Spell plague
I remember writing a character for one of these normie r20 campaigns where the GM claimed to be a master of most DND/PF lore and wanted a mashup inviting pcs from any setting to join.

I wrote my character was abducted as the spellplague was happening and the first thing his not!professor X npc told me was.

"I have developed a vaccine for the spell plague!"

>>54479135
You probably have the right idea.
Aren't spellplague/time of troubles just meta events to justify the changes between editions? I didn't really like them in the first place, so it would probably be better to retcon them.

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>>54478474
>playing adventure paths

>>54479135
Fucken nostalgia. Remember Elminster? Poor fucking guy...

>>54479174
>"I have developed a vaccine for the spell plague!"
Wouldnt that just make you immune to magic? Pretty OP if you ask me

trying to figure out a play by post system.

We all have odd hours being in opposite sides of teh world. so this is the best we could come up with.


any tips?

>>54479268
>Become Immune to Magic
>No magical healing
>Divination magic doesn't work on the person
>Nothing works on the person, both good or bad

>>54479322
It never works

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>>54479195
Die Vecna Die! has already happened in my campaign, which explains using PF. I'm pretty sure no one put any ranks into Knowledge (Planes) or Knowledge (Religion), so the PCs wouldn't know.

>>54479252
He gets a little better during The Herald. The Simbul is still dead in 5E.

>>54479115
>Flirty virgins

Anon pls.

>>54478474
Not really, CotCT is one of the better written APs.

>>54479322
PbP is rough and rarely ends well. If you're insistent on doing it than I'd enforce a 24 hour post policy where the plot is advanced every day, but that might leave some people in the dust.

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>>54478942
None of this describes PLD though.

>>54479322
Try to remember playing any text only game.

Remember how frustrating it is when someone takes a piss just when its their turn? Remember when someone suddenly goes "BRB FOOD" in the middle of a session?

Remember the feeling of wanting to bodily grab someone through the internet and tell them that maybe, just maybe they shouldn't join a game if they cannot clear their schedule for a mere 3~5 hours once a week?

Now take PBP and imagine posting something and being unable to progress for literally hours to days even weeks you wait for someone to respond so that you can actually progress by literally one round.

Can you imagine how long it would take for the campaign to progress to a reasonable level let alone finish? It takes text only rise of the runelords literally 1~2 years to finish assuming a weekly session of 5~8 hours assuming that everyone has the discipline to consistently attend.

Forget about it anon. It will not work.

>>54479057
If anything besides a tiefling is that way, and there are more than one or two, then someone is fucked in the head

So, ignoring the -2 Con, would there be a way to build an effective kobold bloodrager with the draconic bloodline?

>>54479826
At some point it felt like one of those mystery box game shows.

That Gnome tavern wench? 12 inches!

>>54479826
>>54479057
Didn't Crystal Frasier confirm that many Changeling women have male genitalia, a vicious addition by their hag mothers to compound upon their wretched origins?

>>54479842
Suboptimal options don't always necessarily mean you have to approach from a different angle.

Just do it the usual way. Primalist archetype, maybe eldritch heritage, power attack for sure then bagoosh!

Just have to accept the fact that you will not be starting with 20 str nor will you ever have as good a stat spread as your typical bloodrager as well as having to put up with a small weapon.

>>54478942
>Lets discuss ERP.
Let's not.

I'm bad at this, but here's my attempt at a Chalice greentext, recap of first two sessions:
First, the party itself:
>Kyoot, the cutebold sorceress
>Rainyday, the half-elven skald lewdist
>Jessup, the psychic warrior who thinks everyone is his greatest fan
>Tarkus, the zealot dudebro
>Laila aka Witch, the autistic warlock
>Neelu, the avowed fish
And the stuff itself:
>the party attended the Gilded Prince's masquerade
>we were given invitations to visit the Gilded Prince by servants who blended in with the crowd
>there, we met one of the public faces of the Gilded Prince (rather than the actual one) and finally met each other
>as soon as we met each other, Rainyday started relentlessly bullying Jessup, never stopping it
>the Gilded Prince's public face told us we were hired to participate in excavations of ancient Djinni ruins full of traps and other dangers
>after discussing the details, we agreed and were told that we're departing in a week
>after leaving the meeting and returning to the masquerade, we noticed half the people there were intently watching us
>creeped out by that, we hecked off
>most of us went home, however, Jessup got drunk to shit and kept drinking all night
>a natural 2 on his diplomacy roll to see how his night fares
>in the morning, Jessup woke up stark naked next to an actual bear, with said bear hugging a bottle of quality import scotch
>Jessup stole the bottle of booze from the bear and bolted
>timeskip of about a week
>the party met up near the caravan
>Rainyday forgot to change into her travelling gear and decided to change clothes right in front of the entire party
>Laila (aka Witch in her vigilante identity) thought that was TOO LEWD and used silent image to censor the process
>turns out Rainy didn't bring greaves due to being a lewdist
>cue high impact sexual bullying between Rainy and Jessup

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>Run short games regularly
>All of my players always show up with vanilla humans
>Always martials, no magic

>>54479920
Fuck off, nobody cares.

>>54479937
rip ;-;

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>>54479920
>literal meme names
>a group nobody asked about
>it's nothing but lewdshit

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>>54479928
>http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/its-what-vin-would-have-done

>>54479881
>Just have to accept the fact that you will not be starting with 20 str
I mean, this is just me theorycrafting a bit based on the all-kobold-party premise mentioned a thread or two back, but no matter how we cut it, a Strength-based Bloodrager (or any martial, really) is out the window, since Kobolds have -4 STR.

I don't mind playing suboptimal concepts, but if I play a clearly suboptimal concept, I prefer to optimize it. If a class simply cannot be played effectively with a certain race, that's a big hint that that race isn't supposed to be that race.

So it comes down to whether it's possible to build a good-ish dex-based bloodrager with the draconic bloodline; because face it, draconic is the only thing on the table.

>>54479920
What do you guys know about the Djinni ruins the Gilded Prince is sending you to? Why is it being excavated?

>>54479988
Ask the GM to allow unchained rage mechanics?
Deadly agility or Agile weapon should cover your bases then pihranna strike instead of power attack.

>>54479928
Run a game where the final boss is some sort of superghost with DR/Magic and stat drain.

>>54480004
There are several things.
The site contains, among other things, an observatory and several shrines devoted to Omadan and Velendren, one of which, according to some information, used to host the Rod of the First Dawn, a major religious relic that many people tried to locate for a while.
Ideally, we need to secure all of these for different reasons. The observatory is useful in itself and any clues to where the relic is now are great.

What do you guys think of the elemental planes? Which one is coolest? I think it would probably be either Earth or Air. The former is just vast caves full of cool stones and crystals, Shaitan cities, skymetal mines, and who knows what other stuff- sorta like the Darklands. The latter is a huge expanse of floating islands and giant iceblocks with lots of flying people and wind spirits.

None of the elemental planes are really that fluffed out though. Were they better in other settings, like Eberron or Planescape?

>>54480062
Who are Omadan and Velendran? Does the relic have powers, or does the Gilded Prince just want it for its religious value or price tag?

>>54479961
>>54479937
I care. So you fuck off. Faggots.

>>54480118
We didn't ask much about the properties of the relic. The site itself is an ancient Djinni necropolis consecrated to Omadan.
>Velendren
Symbol: A bright white disk upon which two hands are joined in prayer
Domains: Sun, Healing, Protection
Favored weapon: none
Depicted as an older, matronly woman of any race, dressed in finery. Grants blessings to healers, doctors, families, children, guards, and homes.
Followers of Velendren observe the summer solstice as a particularly important day, when the wider family and neighbours gather together to prepare meals together and celebrate. Publically, temples and shrines dedicated to Velendren make a grand feast for the ill and the poor on this day, with all guests welcome.
An acceptable offering for Velendren is a lit hearth with a hearty meal cooking over it, with a bit of grain or rice tossed into the fire.


>Omadan
Symbol: White wolf howling, with one paw atop an open book, atop a black background
Domains: Death, Knowledge, Rune, Magic
Favored weapon: knives, hammers and staves
Depicted as a cowled figure, with features concealed, bearing a gnarled staff. Grants his blessings to scholars and craftsmen.
Followers of Omadan observe the day of the winter solstice as one of particular importance, and it is tradition on those days to gather for long hours of discussion over food and drink. It is also tradition on those days to burn specially prepared incense with inscribed runes in temples. No grand public celebration is observed on those days.
Omadan considers new tomes and scrolls passed into the care of his temples to be an acceptable offering.

>>54480104
The elemental plane of water is the coolest because that's where ice elementals come from

Please tell me Iron Gods isn't a bamboozle. ;_;

>>54480104
Go into detail on the flying people.

I have to be honest, I prefer the way 4e did it. Just felt more suited for the GM to throw you to ADVENTURE worthy locations instead

>>54480372
It isn't but that reviewanon is.

>>54480372
It's a bamboozle.

>>54480372
>>54480379
Sorry but it feels like it is. Its been five (5) days since the GM last made himself known and well... things are not looking good.

I suppose there is at least the consolation that the chargen rules are pretty generic (no gestalt or any special bullshit) so you can easily copy paste your nigger when someone inevitable opens an iron gods game.

I am sorry anon, I know it hurts and it will never stop hurting but thats how it goes.

>>54480376
How did 4e do it?

Someone run a gestalt game so I can play a healer/witch who just wants to help people and its tearing her up that the best way to help her friends is by murdering the enemies

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>>54474861
>Due to a wording issue I ended up fingering the monks ass with mage hand instead of attacking and easily killing him. The serpent-folk wizard said "get him off" so that's what I did.
Yup, that's a wizard thing to do alright

>>54480462
You mean so you can apply with that then get BTFO by a wis/int dumped max cha caster with massive tats.

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>>54480462
What's her familiar? Sounds like a fox/ferret/rabbit sorta woman.

>>54480498
Yes pretty much.

>>54480506
Always fox

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>>54480498
What if the healer/witch is the one with massive tats?

Remember to always grab this in a wand for your Gunslinger friend.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/b/book-ward/

>>54480527
flat is justice!

...right?

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>>54480543
YES

>>54480543
>>54480551
I don't know, man. A gentle-hearted healing woman sounds like the type that should have a hefty bosom.

>>54480527
Still has to dump those stats and get a box of Night Tea. Probably be a weird fetish race while you're at it. Then PM the GM beforehand for a private "session" to see how the character "fits into the world." Then you'll STILL get BTFO, but you'll net an honorable mention!

>>54480574
Bosom size doesn't matter when it comes to healing. What matters is their actions, how soft their hands are, and their thighs.

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>>54480527
>>54480543
>still waging your pointless chest war
Your fighting is stupid and pointless! It is only by accepting the beauty of all boobs, understanding their true appeal, and realizing that all that matters for tits is for them to be attached to the true woman you love, that one may achieve the true enlightenment of Breastvanah

So dreamscarred collected all of their occult stuff and published it.
http://dreamscarred.com/product/psionics-augmented-occult/?attribute_format=Print

>>54480644
But no one loves me anon

Also, I'd settle for Vult's fey healer if there was a game that felt remotely interesting right now

So now that Monk's Belt is a Robe and doesn't even do what people bought it for in 3.5, is there any way for non-Monks to get Wis to AC? I'm playing a Small martial so I'd much rather pursue a class whose main damage source doesn't penalize you for size.

>>54480729
3pp Mystic can.

>>54480663
Well that makes my job easier

>>54480729
If you're still focused on your goblin (ie the reason you need non-armor-based AC is nothing will let you fit your massive Dex into it) from last night, Magus has an archetype with Int to AC. You wanted swordsmanship right, not caring much about casting?

Hello boys.
So I'm a complete beginner at pathfinder, I've played some homebrew before (completely unrelated universe though) but I'm somewhat somewhat retarded and I've been wondering a few things : when they say a DC is for example 20+char modifier, the modifier refers to that particular's PC's char stat ? Also when the rulebook says one minute are we talking a real time minute or a time reference I'm not aware of ?

RAI can a character take Demonic Obedience for Mestama and Deific Obedience for Calistria? The rituals seem very compatible with one another and it works with my character's race from a real-world folklore perspective. It works RAW but RAW is practically irrelevant. If you would allow it, would you require two hours to be dedicated for a caster (it's all in the same hour RAW)?

http://pathfinder.wikia.com/wiki/Calistria
http://www.pathfindercommunity.net/demon-lords

I'm just wondering if this is the type of thing everyone would think is complete bullshit or if it's more mixed. I know PFS has a one deity per PC for all mechanics rule but fuck PFS.

>>54480843
A minute is defined as ten rounds, each round being roughly ten seconds.

CHA mod is, yes, your charisma modifier, which is equal to your (Charisma score-10)/2.

>>54480863
>>54480865
>A minute is defined as ten rounds, each round being roughly ten seconds.
>a minute is 100 seconds long
Please drink coffee before posting, anon.
Each round is 6 seconds, not 10.

>>54480606
Of course bosom size matters, healing is one of the few truly life-giving magics out there, and few things are as indicative of innate life-giving power as a fat chest and wide hips.

>>54480865
>>54480898
All right that clears it up cheers. Man, pathfinder is complicated. Seems fun as all hell though

>>54480863
The default for people in golarion is polythiesm. The feats don't say you have to worship only one, share alignments, or even be within the alignment steps of the god. It is just that you worship and complete the daily obedience to maintain the boons.

I've been over this type of thing before in thread. Nothing by raw seems to stop you from doing something like: celestial obedience, fey obedience, demonic obedience, deific obedience and spending, hell knight obedience, and agonizing obedience all in the same day.

There's even a precedent in having multiple obedience observable in the godclaw oracle, who can do so without blowing the feats if they pay the revelation

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>>54480944
> Seems fun as all hell though
I remember when wasn't a jaded fuck.

Enjoy it while it lasts anon.

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>>54480824
Just want to say that I appreciate what you do, DSP-SRDfag.

>>54480898
Hold on so if for example if the escape artist skill takes 1mn to perform. That's in combat 10 rounds but outside of combat how does it work ?

>>54480962
Well, nothing except alignment restrictions. I'm pretty sure no Hellknight would ever willingly take a Demonic Obediance

>>54480944
Magic has nothing to do with how you physically look.

>>54480962
Can I, say, be a ghost holding my holy symbol and plotting vengeance on an unsuspecting nonbeliever of Mestama while plotting vengeance on them and thinking of the teachings of Calistria and appease both powers in the same hour?

>>54481031
No problem. If someone could pass me off the compiled PDF of the PsiAug stuff, I'd be grateful. Give it a few weeks though, let them get some sales out of it. I have a policy of waiting three weeks before adding content. Eventually the Malefex will be added, though

>>54481013
I've gotten into pen and paper games recently and I love it to bits (for now). I've mostly played RP oriented futuristic oneshots which I've written lore for though so combat heavy modules might not work for me. Live and learn I guess

>>54480962
Speaking of Obediences, I'm surprised people overlooked this one for Shamira, the Demon Lord of corrupting the pure and innocent.

>Engage in sexual acts (either alone or with a partner) in the presence of a sleeping intelligent creature without waking that creature. Gain a +4 profane bonus on saves against charm effects.

>>54481081
And make the nonbeliever cry of course I mean

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>>54480429
Instead of the Great Wheel and all the 'Elemental Plane of _______', there was the Feywild and Underdark, Astral Sea and Elemental Chaos.

The Feywild and Underdark where pseudo-reflections of the material world. The Feywild was more magical, with more Arcane energy around, and the Underdark was just Scary Town by another name. You could accidentally wind up lost in them by GM approved incident, such as turning a corner or chasing after an auspicious thief. What is a normal kingdom in the real world could wind up like Alice in Wonderland type thing where the people in power are all giants, or you could wind up on a bad street that gets pulled into the dark and everyone is replaced with a Werewolf.

If you really wanted to go all out on the fantasy, the Astral Sea and Elemental Chaos were harder to reach but provided greater rewards.

>>54480527
If anyone wants to do a massive tit party game I think this thread has enough people. I'd be down.

>>54480828
You got me. Yeah this is actually helpful, probably gonna play a Magus as a result. With that and Mage Armor and +6 starting Dex bonus, the gobbo can probably get by. Also, you know, having Roll With It. I love that racial feat.

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>>54480462
I still want to play in a gestalt game that just doesn't have Initiating. Not because "I hate martials" or some other bullshit, just because I'm sick of having to factor it in. Maybe I'll come around in the four years it takes for the errata to finally roll out, but right now no matter how much I enjoy huge chunks of it, I'm sick of the clusterfuck that follows the subsystem around.

>>54481055
Game time and real time are relative. In a single session, days can pass. It's just a minute in fantasy land. Unless you're doing something and it's time sensitive, it doesn't really matter. If you're trying to escape rope binds and patrols are every 5 minutes, you have some time. You won't be restricted to sitting on your hands for 1 real life minute to do this.

>>54481055
Each round being 6 seconds, 10 of them is exactly equal to 1 minute. There's no difference and time can still technically be measured in rounds in and out of combat, it's just annoying most of the time.

>>54481132
That's an obedience even the average neckbeard masturbating can easily accomplish!

You're a naked bladebound hexcrafter magus and you have 7000 GPs, what equipment do you buy?

>>54481335
Clothes.

>>54481255
>>54481268
Right sorry I'm just a bit drunk and retarded plus unfamiliar with such concepts

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>>54473186
The Ranger/Druid wants to make a new character.

I can convert him into an NPC Hunter that is going to turn his farmland back into a forest.

>>54481335
A slingkini and some stilletos. Also as many scrolls of Hold Person as my slingkini can hold

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>>54481345
It's fine, I'm not feeling like any asshole this morning.

>>54481227
Massive tit parties are only fun when you've got slender young men or Herculean hunks to enjoy them.

>>54481362
What's he planning to make? Why are they dropping characters left and right?

>>54481345
Gareth?

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>>54481399
Nope
>>54481375

>>54481419
Like an asshole*
In reference to your apology. There's no need.

>>54481395
Just getting to play the character I want without being judged would be enough for me

>>54481340
Cool, I spent 10 GP in clothes, what now?

What I'm asking is for essential equipment, with that money is a +2 Int headband essential? is a pendant of for the first time you die you don't essential?. I'm bladebound so I can spare in my main weapon.

>>54481469
>ever not being judged
But that's how people decide if they want to invite you to other games or continue playing with you.

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>>54481445
No worries m8 I understood I was referring to my current retardedness towards pathfinder. Seems like basic concepts but some of them are tricky to get when you don't have the basics

>>54481521
For a dexmagus, Dex is more important than Int.
Other than that, just grab shit out of the big 6.
Also, Cracked Dusty Rose Prism Ioun Stone.

>>54481531
I meant judged for the boobs specifically.

>>54481533

Admittedly, Pathfinder is a pretty messy system. It can be a little difficult to pick up without a lot of prior experience with certain editions.

>>54481580
Oh, who the fuck cares? Unless you're emphasizing it. I guess you came to the right place. Most of us have bigger fetish concerns.

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>>54481397
He doesn't know yet.

I made the offer to them since they finished the adventure yesterday, and recommended they go with a concept they've always wanted to try instead of something mechanically superior. He's also new to the system.

The newest player (Bard/Rogue) hasn't played a gestalt game before.

The other player started with a Hidden Blade/Evoker, then changed to a Kensai Magus/Exploiter Wizard with a Shocking Grasp build.

I might also be overwhelming them with options by including 3PP material.

>>54481542
>For a dexmagus, Dex is more important than Int.
Depends on the level. Spell Perfection Telekinesis is pretty good with max int and feats that give set numerical bonuses on weapons.

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>>54481654
Ah, okay. Yeah, I can see that. I guess the Genasi waifu will just go about her life, unromanced by mentally unhinged roaming murdermonsters.

>>54481542
Speaking of ioun stones, what are some good ones for a low level paladin?

>>54475434
I hope you're serious. That's exactly what I would do if I had time to play.

>>54481580
How large are we talking here?

>>54481702
It doesn't have to be like that.

>https://fellowsblog.ted.com/how-to-grow-a-forest-really-really-fast-d27df202ba09

With enough magic, that level 3 Druid can turn the farmland back into a forest within a decade. Five years later, things start to come out of the forest.

The Chauntean Adept will have to find the PCs to investigate their old companion.

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>Plains Druid and Plains Domain
>neither option has any fire-related spells or abilities
>despite fire being one of the main driving ecological forces in most all plains and grasslands, and is what primarily ensures they stay as mostly grasslands
The hell is this nonsense?

>>54475434
>mfw making a capitalist for Essentia

Land of the Linnorm Kings was a bamboozle. It was a bamboozle.

>>54482085
Why are you telling us this now? Wasn't that a while ago?

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>>54482085

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>>54482058
>mfw making a nazi for Essentia

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>>54475434
>>54482058
>>54482153
>mfw lost all hope in playing in any game

Which of the SoP classes sees actual play? Does anyone play incanter past level 1?

If I were going to run a short adventure, would it be a problem to have it all made in advance? Like, all the maps and encounters already made, the plot already determined, all of that before even picking players. On one hand, it's easier on me because it means I can do all the prep work at my own pace before starting the game. but on the other hand, it makes the adventure less flexible- not that it would be impossible for the party to deviate from "the plan" but there would be a certain limit I would need them to operate within (or I would need to make more in the week between sessions, which I may or may not have time for) and I also wouldn't be able to design any part of the adventure with my PCs in mind, neither their builds or their backstories.

>>54481542
Also a couple of pearls of power for 1st level spells

>>54473834
I want to create a powerful wizard brought low by dementia who slowly regains his power and mental facilities through adventuring with a group of people consisting of his son, his wizard school crush, that neighbor boy that won't get off his lawn, and a fucking cat.

>>54482204
Make plans. Then cheat your plans. Every encounter bypassed is a resource to employ somewhere else if you can get the context to fit.

They never visit the tavern-full-of-ghosts puzzle and encounter combo, and head straight for the woods? You better fucking believe those woods are now haunted as shit.

Tell no one you do this and never make something fit if it really can't, because it cheapens the choice if they know.

>>54481821
Freakishly large. 38 ZZZZ American which is 24 pounds per boob or 14 5/6" diameter per cup to be creepily specific. 12,000 cubic centimeters per titty if that's easier for you to picture.

>>54482132
>>54482151
Pain and death await all living things.

>>54482345
Wow large

>Planning game
>Got chargen, setting, and rough plot outline before PC derailment in mind
>Can't decide on what tone I want to run it on

>>54482500
Tell us the setting and rough plot outline, we could help you discover the tone.

>>54482345
Is there even a way you could explain breasts that large in Pathfinder? That just seems like you've blasted into that magical realm where the boobs are so large, they don't even register as "erotic" anymore.

>>54482522
I'm just vacuum-posting, don't mind me. I know what my options are, I'm just not certain where I want things to fall between wacky PC shenanigans and dead serious consequences.

>>54482570
Reality is often more absurd than fiction, I'd suggest keeping things dead serious barring the occasional WTF moment.

>>54482541

Bloat mage, cept tit and not bloodfat

>>54482570
Just have a basic framework for both and see which direction your players push towards (since that's the tone they want to play).

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>>54482588

What if you're dead serious about the WTF moments?

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>enjoy making characters and apps a lot
>can't actually play in a lot of games because no unlimited free time
>make apps for games and secretly hope I don't get picked
>Get really excited about a character but enthusiasm drains over the app period because I worry I might get picked and then I'd actually have to invest a time slot in the game or decline the invite
>Always afraid a great game I'll genuinely want to play is around the corner but I won't be able to join it if I get pulled into some other game or won't get picked for it if I decline an invite for some other game because DMs will assume I'll decline again

Am I actually the worst kind of person?

>>54482500
>>54482570
Hey, you're in a better spot than me. I'm thinking of running a game but don't know which of several ideas I'd want to run with. I'd ask the thread what seems most interesting, but I'm also no positive I want to run something at all and don't want to get people's hopes up if I end up not wanting to run. It's quite the quandary. I've been waffling for like a week or two, when I really just need to make up my damn mind. But my brain is being a scumbag.

>>54482771
You are. So am I.

My most convenient scenario is to get picked but never actually play the game so I can validate my app quality but not have to commit time.

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>>54482771
I know this feel my man. I kinda wish people would just want to run shorter games instead of whole APs, but then I'd just be frustrated that every game was always in the level 3-7 or 5-11 realm, never getting to use those fun lategame features or items.

>>54482771
I do the exact same thing, I relish the application process more than the campaign itself.

It's to the point where I would be a very, very happy boy if the DM allowed us to make NPCs.

>>54482835
Don't kid yourself, campaigns around here NEVER use lategame features or items, and the few times people have suggested an end-game campaign (or even Mythic) they get laughed out of the General.

>>54482820
Secretly hoping the game you get picked for turns out to be a bamboozle? Yeah, that kind of thought has crossed my mind too. People bitch a lot about the app circus, but I genuinely enjoy the whole process.

What might be even worse is that I actually really want to make a character that hits meme-tier status in a thread, without me ever shilling for them. If that happens, it must mean I made a pretty appealing character and I'd also enjoy getting to see people talk about my character. Even if it was only shitty memes, I would like to see it.

>>54482925
>make a character that hits meme-tier status in a thread
This is the part where I feel differently. I love the app circus, the predictions, the memes, but I only want to be a spectator.
I want to make good characters as a personal thing and I take advantage of games as prompts, but I'd hate to get attention because I feel like it'd undermine me in the long run to become any sort of personality. It becomes harder to see your characters objectively as they gain presence I feel.

>>54475679
Mad necromancer Quintin Laramoore.

Kaiser Soze mixed with Barney the dinosaur and Skeletor.

>>54482925
>>54482968
What game concepts support the greatest concentration of memery and quality? Dominions practically flew under the radar while Ensoulment was a category 5 meme stream.

>>54482968
As someone who engaged in memetics because he assumed he wasn't getting in: I can confirm you feel correctly.

>>54482994
Themes, GM, who applies, and raw luck.

Ensoulment had:

1. An Arthurian fantasy vibe, which no one has done before.

2. A GM was widely known as a pretty cool guy.

3. Early apps from celebs.

4. Just got lucky.

>>54482541
It's something that occurs in real life. There have been girls with biggers boobs than that before even reaching the minimum age for a level 1 human PC. In terms of biology they could be twice as big. Mobility is the genuinely unrealistic part, not the size.

She is secretly the bastard child of Daikitsu and Nalinivati's divine essence impregnating her mortal mother as part of their secret divine tryst. She inherited Nalinivati's sorcery and Daikitsu's... a-agriculture. That's why her hormones are so excessive and she's a hormonal wreck with the worst Will saves, crossblooded Arcane/Psychic and has two figment scorpion familiars that are black/white with white/black stingers that form a yin-yang when they nestle together. Each one is made from the will of one of her divine guardians as they compete to outdo the other. The aesthetic idea with the boobs is that one day if she survives long enough she will discover the truth about her origin and unlock her destiny as a goddess of food and the arcane.

>>54476747
>THIRTEEN

>>54483298
I'm convinced that rather than a whim, it was a strategy to take advantage of the DM's personality.

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>>54483298
>>54483330
>THIRTEEN

What did he mean by this?

>>54483158
So, she's an absurdly horny teenager with tits that'd make Onryou blush? I'd tell you to apply right away with this concept if I didn't think the Age of Meme Games was over.

Speaking of, >>54483127 makes me wonder just what concepts are still fresh, and which "popular" DMs might still have space in their schedule.

>>54478942
Only a fuckin' high schooler says shit like that, hoss.
Get older friends.

>>54483381
The memes are just at rest because Starfinder is on the horizon.

>>54483381
>makes me wonder just what concepts are still fresh

Planar, horror, exploration, and urban adventures have either been rare, or non-existence.

>>54482835
I want to run games and would have to run short games if I did. The other day I actually asked how long a game would have to run for people to feel like it was worth playing and the answer I got back way around 10 sessions minimum. I'm also >>54482801 so I'm in a situation where I want to run with different ideas that would make for shorter games, but I still don't know for sure if I can commit and I sure as hell don't want to bamboozle people after getting their hopes up. If I started running short games one after the other, it would kind of defeat the purpose of using a short game to avoid locking down a time slot indefinitely, though on the other hand it would be easy enough to finish one short game up and then just not start another one if I'm not ready to lock that time slot down again.

Also, I wouldn't see a point to running an app process that lasts three or four weeks for a game that might only go, say, two months. So the app process would be shorter, but then I don't know if I'd end up with enough good apps at the end of the day since looking at some games they really come in slowly.

>>54483381
She's not horny at all, just emotional. Basically, more hormones do tend to make a girl hornier and hornier, but once you get to the realm of tittymonster level of hormones there's way too much fucking hormone and they tend to lose most sexual desire, so that cliche is not only shitty and overdone, but unrealistic as well.

I didn't want to go into her personality too much since Anon only questioned reasoning behind the boobs and I was already bordering on a blog post.

>>54482968
>>54482998
You guys probably aren't wrong, but it's still something I'd like to experience. I feel like I'm in a weird place because I try to avoid developing any sort of reputation or "public personality" (IE never breaking from anonymity in-thread, not being part of the cabal or whatever other cliques might be floating around now) but I also would like to make a character that's so popular that people want to talk about them. To me, that would be like... a sign of success, I guess? That's only true if there's a good reason for them to be talked about, and not just forced memes, art carries, or lewd potential making people thirsty. What that means, I suppose, is that even though I would like to remain obscure, I would like my characters to stand out from the crowd.

>>54482994
>>54483127
I think timing also has to do with it as well. The flood of games isn't stopping, but there are short lulls. Avoiding having your game overshadowed by another is important. Theme is probably the biggest factor, however.

I can't wait for the first wave of Starfinder games. I wonder if they'll follow our Pathfinder game trends or if something like RotJR will come along and pioneer our Starfinder standard.

Which Intrigue apps do you like the most, /pfg/?

>>54483772

Could you elaborate on this? I'm planning on buying the books and trying my hands at DMing

>>54482030
Ignorance.

>>54478085
I'm sure you just don't remember typing it desu senpai

>>54483714
My advice to you is to staunchly ignore making any sort of anime character or personality, assuming you're making male or female characters. I can't begin to discuss just how many applications were born, lived and died because they were yet another faceless anime bitch with a cute and quirky backstory that ultimately goes fucking nowhere. Find some good Western art, and write the character like they should be in a book.

>>54483929
>anime character or personality

something something "literally anything is anime", insert screeching about not liking anime on 4chan here, then finish off with something about your taste being shit despite not knowing anything about it

Concept idea: in a melting pot city, you, the party (a ragtag bunch of misfits from all walks of life) have to band together and keep your little slice of the community with your families in it nice and safe from outside influence, ranging from the gang from across the street and human supremacists to corrupt City officials and organized foreign crime. The melting pot city is basically New York or Atlanta turned up to eleven, with kemonomimishit, orcs, elves, dwarves, and other races all living together in relative harmony.

Yes or no /pgg/? Would run from like a level 1 prologue to maybe level 8, Psionics and Akashic being the main forms of magic with limited Path of War thrown in to make things interesting, but I'm iffy on including PoW though.

>>54481064
Magic relates to symbols and vice versa. Appearance can be a potent symbol too!

>>54483831
RotJR was a pathfinder campaign which completely changed how campaigns were advertised, ran, and picked.

The weeks long application period, the thread memes, the celebrity players/GMs, all of it came from this one game.

The person is wondering if sfg games will follow the trend, or will come up with a whole new system.

>>54484005
>Psionics and Akashic being the main forms of magic

This is what interests me the most, but the actual concept could be good. I just don't see how you'd manage to nail the execution and really create the feel you're aiming for in the city.

>>54484038
I don't see why changing the game we play would change the system at this point. What about a Starfinder campaign's app process would need to be any different than a Pathfinder campaign's app process?

>>54484005
>New York or Atlanta

So 80% of the characters should be half-orcs and the only humans you bother to show on-screen are female human blondes?

>>54484038
>The weeks long application period
This is the only part I truly dislike, anything over 2 weeks is excessive and just trying to grab attention like a pathetic whore.

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>>54484005
>kemonomimishit

How much kemo are we talking here?

>>54484038
Wasn't the actual application process less than a month, it was just the 3~ month waiting room that caused things to explode?

>>54484074
>What about a Starfinder campaign's app process would need to be any different than a Pathfinder campaign's app process?

No idea.

No one ever thought we'd need an app system more complicated than "hey, I'm this person, can I join?" and yet, here we are.

>>54484124
Yeah, pretty much.

>>54483975
I love how people point to Cuchulainn and say "that's an anime" as though that's a good argument.

Fuck it, this thread isn't going to get the memo now or ever, even after the acceptance trends for games show a clear bias towards "Western" characters. Fuck, it's so bad people were ogling JttW because it lets them make anime bullshit and actually stand a chance getting in.

>>54484168
Too much hair, the image works best when you've got a lot of negative space above the head.

>>54484116
Star Foxes Only
No visible skin unless related to Android
Good Luck

>>54484159
>Fuck it, this thread isn't going to get the memo now or ever, even after the acceptance trends for games show a clear bias towards "Western" characters

Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>54484159
it's a fucking meme you egg

>>54484190
Go look at the acceptances for every major campaign.

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>>54484188

That could work.

>>54484222
All I see is anime and Slow characters.

Is 12 Fort / 8 Refl / 10 Will ok for a 5th level char?

>>54484222
I'm going to need your distinction between anime and not-anime here because I really don't see it.

>>54484278
Yeah, that looks pretty solid to me.

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>>54484168

I like it.

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>>54484188
>No visible skin unless related to Android

Got it.

>>54484266
>>54484295
How many Animes were accepted into Ensoulment or PLD?