>you'll never live in an alternate timeline that

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>>54441905

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>>54441906

>eventually runs out of coal
ok now what

>>54441908
you can make coal from wood. wood grows.
you can literally not run out of coal if you're smart about it.

>>54441905
>200 years of burning coal in cities

humans would be extinct

>>54441909
Yeah bro, just like manually fossilize trees in a few days, like coal didn't take millions of years to form, fuck the environment and shit.
That's totally why we see coal as an infinitely renewable resource now with no negative environmental impact.

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>>54441911
>he doesn't know humans have been making coal for hundreds of years
lmao @ ur lack of knowledge to be honest friendo.

educate yourself befure you embarrass yourself againe.

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>steampunk

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>>54441905

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>>54441909
>wood grows
not fast enough
You don't need high carbon in the fuel, unless you are e.g. in steel mill industry, so wood is often fine. Coal started to be mined in UK because most of the forests had been already harvested, people realized that coal produces plenty of smoke and ash, and the mining process is ofc more expensive then harvesting wood but the demand for fuel was too high.

Dieselpunk > Atompunk > Autismpunk (a.k.a. Steampunk)

>>54441905
>>54441907
>>54441914

Just go to China if you want lung cancer that badly and hate workers' rights

>>54441912
Charcoal ≠ coal ≠ coke
Good luck with producing steel using charcoal retard.

>>54441918
you can use charcoal to run steam engines.

>>54441919
--> >>54441915

Is there a Roman punk?

I like that sort of thing.

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>tfw no qt steampunk gf

>>54441911
How have you never heard of charcoal? We can literally turn wood into coal in a furnace.

>>54441924
--> >>54441918, >>54441915

>>54441923

You could find any other ugly cow off the street and just dress her up.

>>54441923

In what way is that outfit steampunk?

>>54441923
She's fat

>>54441928
She's keeping it period.

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Was it the most aesthetic age?

The scale of the industrial revolution approached the modern yet it was all low-tech, sort of at a level that can be understood at a glance. The influx of wealth brought nouveau riche putting on the pretenses of the aristocracy and near-destitute dickensian poor stuffed between the city's infrastructure trying to build a life for themselves. In a generation they went from regency overcoats and laces to acres of belching chimneys and industrial marvels with meticulously tended to gardens, greenhouses and parks springing up incompensation. Somewhere in the midst of all this a couple made their fortune, saw everything their world had to offer and enjoyed victorian christmases with their children.

So much conflict and contrast, it somehow beats what came before and after.

>tips top hat

>>54441916
This and this alone.

>>54441930
You would be a peasant, dont forget it

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>>54441905
>steampunk

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>>54441933
I'm not talking about the autistic kind but the technically impresssive kind.

We love in a cyberpunk world, be grateful for the punk you got

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>>54441905
>steampunk

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>>54441905

Oh?

>>54441921
What's this from?

>steampunk
yuck
scifi inspired retro futurism is the best

>>54441905
Dieselpunk is where it's at.

>>54441936
Why is Eurasia cut in half on that map?

>>54441941
americentric map

>>54441905
>steampunk
>>>/tg/
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/out/

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>steampunk

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>>54441944
>>54441943
>>54441940
>>54441939
>>54441936
>>54441933
>>54441913
Had I known a simple word could cause this much autistic outrage on /his/ I would have used a different word to describe it.

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>>54441945
We're just busting yer balls, OP. I think the images you posted look pretty neat. Although I'm a much bigger fan of Dieselpunk, Cyberpunk, and Atompunk (pic related).

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>>54441946
cunt

>>54441945
It's not historical content you absolute mongoloid

>>54441948
over half this boards content is just discussing what-ifs.

>>54441921
I actually need to know where this is from

>>54441949
>my excuse for being part of a problem is that the problem exists

>>54441950
>>54441938
steamboy
says so in the metadata btw

>>54441905
Factoid: Steampunk is the gayest shit ever, everyone who likes it is a bender and the only thing decent to ever be connected with it is Arcanum

>>54441938
I think it be from an anime called"Empire of Corpses".

>>54441905
>you'll never live in an alternate timeline that's forever stuck in steampunk victorian age
Thank fucking GOD!

I would say Steampunk is literal garbage but that devalues garbage far too much to be a fair comparison.

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>>54441916
Where does cyberpunk fit on that scale? Also, how could you be so objectively wrong as to rate dieselpunk over atompunk?

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>>54441945
Why didn't I see this thread before?
>on /his/
Ouch, ya got moved son.

Nice pics though, only a couple of them are retarded, most are quite realistic as far of these things go

>>54442581
Cyberpunk > all others

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>>54441905
Ignore all the triggered snowflakes, O.P.; I like steampunk, and I know a lot of other people on this board do, to.

Here; have a pic. (This one is currently my wallpaper.)

>>54441919

Steamboat operators nearly deforested the Mississippi valley at one point powering steamships. It would not have been sustainable for another 150 years.

>>54441905
Good?

I won't be unfairly disparaged as either a wog or red savage constantly and not have to worry about diseases and the lack of real medicine & disinfectant.

Computers that aren't baroque clockwork monstrosities sounds nice too.

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>>54441913
>fucking idiots

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>>54443194
Best girl.

>>54442999
That is a nice one - even the walker has concessions to reality with the 4 legs, and it's more incidental than the focus of the pic

>>54441934
That shit would never fly - not even hydrogen would generate enough lift to counter all that crap.

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>>54444939
I think these airships are supposed to work on some sort of anti-gravity tech, based on the technological/mechanical-looking nature of the balloons.

>>54441905
>Big ass cool ships are not a thing because americucks pushed the aircraft vessel meme into oblivion
FUCK USA
FUCK ROOSEVELT
AND FUCK EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON THIS SHIT

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Does this count as steam-punk?

>>54441927

see >>54441928

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>There are people alive that prefer steampunk brass corsets to atompunk space adventures

What a horrifying world

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Diesalpunk>Atompunk=Cyberpunk>Modernpunk>Steampunk
>>54445514
Hard to tell. The smog filthy urban sprawl below alludes to a diesalpunk atmosphere but the shit looks like it'd be owned and controlled by some big corporate entity. Could swing either way, steampunk tends to look more clean then that

>>54441921
>easterrisingaccordingtotheirish.webm

>>54441924
charcoal and coal are two different things

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>>54445035
Pardon, do you mean us eliminating the use of destroyers and dreadnaughts because aircraft carriers were far more effective? Or do you mean the lack of airships because heavy bomber blocks turn out to be likewise much more effective?


Because if you want to blame someone for the lack of destroyers you should blame the Germans for having nothing but U-boats to engage with and the Japanese for being so terrified of losing their own flagship that they refused to ever deploy it over using aircraft carriers themselves. Hell, the Japanese are doubly responsible on that note because the pearl harbor attack hit nothing BUT destroyers and cruisers, while our carriers were all elsewhere.

If you want to blame us for the lack of airships, do recall we're the ONLY fuckers who actually build and operated airship carrier vessels. There's just no way to shelter rigid airships from wind sheer and storms while we wouldn't develop the technology to accurately monitor and steer around that sort of weather for decades.

>>54441932
And in medieval times, you'd be a serf, but that never stops people from playing medieval settings.

>>54442130
>>54442580
>>54442999
/tg/ seems to hate steampunk for reasons that are either poorly explained or deeply stupid, but I think it's really just a few people.

I've started liking industrialized settings more after learning about the impact the industrial revolution had on human society. It was strongly connected to the transition from traditional to secular-rationalist values, for example, and apparently human population dynamics prior to it were largely Malthusian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_cycle_theory#Contemporary_theories

>>54443105
>Computers that aren't baroque clockwork monstrosities sounds nice too.
They do look cool as hell, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be1EM3gQkAY

This video doesn't have the sound the machine makes, though. You can see that it operates in two steps, but there's this great KA-CHACK noise in between them— you can probably hear it in another video.

>>54443037
To the best of my knowledge, you are correct: biofuels alone could not have sustained the industrial revolution.

I have always liked the idea of a setting without fossil fuels in which the industrial revolution occurred via a leap from biofuels to nuclear power. Said revolution would be greatly delayed relative to our history, of course, but it is likely that scientific progress of a sort would proceed for a long time, in small, cloistered areas, until someone invented an atomic pile— and then the energy available to humanity would jump from "wood and whale oil" to "fission", with a corresponding jump in economic growth and everything else that came with industrialization. Synthetic fuels would be expensive, so you'd lack internal combustion engines; vehicles would be massive, hulking monstrosities with nuclear power plants in them. Enormous trains and huge semi-mobile mining equipment used to get at uranium.

>>54446811
>>Computers that aren't baroque clockwork monstrosities sounds nice too.
>They do look cool as hell, though:

Fun fact; when Charles Babbage ran out of money to fund the building of his difference engine, his friend, assistant, and unofficial spokesman Ada Lovelace (keen mathematician & daughter of lord Byron) tried to raise money by playing the odds at betting on horse races.

It went quite badly for her, but I've always wondered what the world today would be like if she'd succeeded in winning enough money to fund Babbage.

>>54441932
Actually; my 19th century antecedents were all of respectable, middle-class stock; shop-keepers, publicans and such, thank-you-very-much.

>>54449027
Is this steampunk? It just looks like a contemporary setting to me.

Steampunk finishes a respectable third to cyberpunk and dieselpunk.

>>54445035


Easy there, Tanaka.

>>54450142
Not even a fan of these genres, but Im think steampunk still finishes ahead of dieselpunk t.b.h.

>>54449909


>motorcycle
>panzer turret

That's dieselpunk.

>>54441905
>>you'll never live in an alternate timeline that's forever stuck in steampunk victorian age
Dude I love zeppelins, but I wouldn't wanna live in the Victorian age - steampunk or not - even if I was royalty.

>>54441905
>>54441906
>>54441907
>>54441934
>>54445555
>all that rust
I know it's going for a "lived in" feel, but that's just a shameful level of disrepair. Those vessels look all the paint was blasted off by a fire-hose of excrement and then dried in the sun before being returned to service.

>>54445035
>Americucks
The Japanese are as guilty of this as the Americans, and the British to a lesser extent.

>>54442999

>>54446811
>/tg/ seems to hate steampunk for reasons that are either poorly explained or deeply stupid, but I think it's really just a few people.

The problem was the thread was originally on /his/, off topic shit isn't a good excuse for further off topic shit

>>54452867
Holy shit where is that from?

>>54441905
>get drafted into eternal WWI
>get evaporated by a Tesla-ray when automatons storm your trench, just like the last five generations of your ancestors
>die knowing that your son will be zapped in the trenches too one day

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>>54441916
Almost correct.The sign between dieselpunk and atompunk should be a =.Surpersonic fighters are too sexy.
>>54444986
Still makes no sense.
>>54450346
So,it's argentinepunk then?
>>54450178
cubensis or tampanensis?
>>54452867
Anon,Schwerer Gustav is dieselpunk.

>>54441922
Yes. It's called Roman Bath and it's a Japanese manga.

>>54443194
>>54443393
Why can't muscular engineer girls be heroines? Most "engineer" heroines are just moeblob idols who happen to be natural geniuses at some desk-bound engineering job, like making tiny robots or programming.

>>54454192
>Why can't muscular engineer girls be heroines?
Because gender holes.

If the princess is a 6'3" amazon, jiu jitsu black belt with more muscles than the leading male, then is quite obviously she doesn't need help in being rescued.

>>54453895
>Still makes no sense.
I mean; the balloon has no helium/hydrogen in it, but rather some sort of anti-gravity generator which just happens to occupy the same place on the airship which a balloon would on a traditional lighter-than-air vehicle.

>born too late to get on airships
>born too early to get on spaceships and bang alien babes

>>54454249
>heroines
>quite obviously she doesn't need help in being rescued.
the one doing the rescuing, not the one being rescued.
>with more muscles than the leading male
no leading male, see
>heroines

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>>54453570
Fuck if I know, but it's rad as shit

>>54453895
Look closer - I thought that too, but there's a big steam engine behind it.
Railway guns (though ofc nothing like that scale, but hey, that's almost never an issue in these things) were used in the ACW and shipped to (but not used) one of the Boer wars, so there's precedent

>steampunk
>future
Earth would have turned to Venus before the 21st century

>>54441909
There was actually a semi-recent cartoon movie set in an alternate timeline where coal alternatives are never found and things get so bad that there's war brewing with canada just to get their forests.

Also
>if you're smart about it
>humans
lol no

>>54456515
>we wuz strong n independent womyns n sheeeit
If the girls can do everything for herself, what is the point of the story?

Even Wonder Woman needs some men every now and then.

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>>54452867

> Prussian
> Clearly French cuirassiers

>>54445514
Looks like Victorian cyberpunk to me.

>>54445514
>>54462728
>the windows on those ships are bigger than the apartments down below

Be ye warned,/tg/ hates cogfop. Because normies reee

Also because of misuse of the word 'punk'

>>54441905
I would build a steam powered dimensional portal gun and escape to a high school anime

>>54462775
That's some hard-core class disparity

That said, considering pic related, the Crystal Palace, it's not totally out there - individual panes might be a bit of a stretch, but stretching these things is par for the course in steampunk

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>>54465046
Ffs

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>>54441905 (OP)
>>54441930
>>54452867
>all this hankering after the polluted oppressive class-ridden Victorian age

Atompunk = best punk.

>>54445680
>>54441946
>>54442581
Patrician taste.

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>>54466138
>being too low-class and pussy about smog

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>>54467346
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I am a steampunk fan, although dieselpunk comes a close second, but both are much better when mixed with a tasteful dollop of Biopunk. Recently found both Leviathan (YA fiction) and Larklight (for kids) that both do punk genres rather well. Kids steampunk actually does deal with the Brit Empire's racism and superiority complex thing, albeit in a slightly oblique fashion. Leviathan is just flat out fucking awesome, especially with the art.

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>>54468521
The dieselpunk Central Powers vs. the Biopunk allies, with a decent bit of worldbuilding. Sadly the irritating romance takes over a lot of the plot of Book 2 and some of 3, but there's still easily enough cool stuff to be worth reading.

>>54468547
Entente, not Allies. Just been reading Uber, so I was still thinking in WW2 terms.

>>54468521
>>54468547
Would be way cooler if that airship was a mix of biological living creature fused with mechanic machinery.

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>>54468561
It becomes that, after the first book. The Clankers, including the second protagonist, who take refuge on the ship (from the Central Powers, because politics and because one of them is being hunted to remove a possible claim to the Emperor's throne) replace the damaged engines on it with their own significantly better ones so they can run for it (hence the giant plume of smoke they're kicking out in pic related). America, Japan and a couple other places also make use of both philosophies.

Author seems to have a massive boner for the Darwinist tech and ignores their many drawbacks, and I say this as a biologist. No, your army of warbeasts will not require "less fuel and maintenance" than the machines, they're going to take an absurd amount of food. Still, since he's not exactly focusing on the war itself it's not a massive problem.

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>>54468681
Also, the art is gorgeous and the illustrator did a whole bunch of extra arty bitz. Like this map, for instance.

>>54468681
>Author seems to have a massive boner for the Darwinist tech and ignores their many drawbacks, and I say this as a biologist.
Who knows.

Maybe the biological part feeds itself out of normal food, and shits both diesel and electrial energy.

>>54468739
That they don't need, because the Darwinists pull their trains with huge elephantine beasties and such, and only have small electrical motors that wouldn't need much fuel. Clankers use normal fuels for their land-dreadnoughts.
It's just they never seemed to acknowledge just how much food you need for a Whale R101 despite the heroes having significant problems keeping their tank-equivalent walker running without the supply train. Anyway, doesn't really stop it being completely awesome.

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>>54454294
It sounds ridiculous.Why they have no wings? And,if they are so underpowered,why are the users wasting energy with the giant towers and funnels?
>>54458187
The gun still looks too recent.It's like a badly thought version of pic.

>>54468828
What is the name of this book you are reading.

You somehow caught my attention with these replies. Also, dont forget that whales eat planctons, so if they seem to not having too much of food for them, that dont really mean it was a mistake from the author.

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>>54468976
Leviathan, by Scott Westerfeld. Also has another two in the series, Behemoth and Goliath.

Not to be confused with the socieconomic treatise on Social Contract Theory Leviathan, that's both more boring and a lot different.

Not many plankton in the sky, though. And it doesn't really seem to have much of a mouth. It's kinda handwaved, I guess. Still, book is good and art is better.
From left to right: Tigeresque fabricated creature that they use to try and scare prospective Navy recruits, Austrian "Stormwalker" mecha with crew of five and a Huxley Ascender scout medusa.

>>54441905
>>54441906
>>54441907
>>54441914
There's a very good reason the only people to use tumblehome hulls on their pre-dreads were the French--who never really got the hang of being a naval power--and the Russians, who once almost lost a battleship to a Japanese boarding action despite there being no Japanese Marines anywhere within a thousand miles.

Unless your top weight budget is so tight you need to save every pound to keep from capsizing, stick with a conventional hull. It's especially bad for warships, as they rapidly loose stability when flooding.

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>>54468976
It's the Leviathan series, by Scott Westerfeld. And yeah, while the whale may not require much energy (and has an entire internal ecosystem to fuel it) it's always downplayed how animals like house-sized war bears and literal kaiju need to eat and poop in gigantic quantities.

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>>54468521
>>54468561
>Biowank

>>54441908
I'm more concerned about air quality. Did you know the famous London fog used to be lethal? Like people would littery suficate from the carbon monoxide on really foggy nights.

>>54442581
>Where does cyberpunk fit on that scale?
It's the only punk, the others lack punks. The whole point was that it was about criminals. The only reason we have the phrase Steampunk is because Gibson wrote a Alternate History novel and some reveiwer decided everything he wrote had to be Punk something.

>>54441919
>>54441918
>>54441915
>etc

I think Wood Gas should be considered as well.

>>54445680
>still haven't finished novel about atompunk aliens
Basically they're from a red dwarf system, and when they reach a 50s style society they realize their star is about to shit itself again. Pouring their entire planet's industry into building nuclear pulse propulsion generation ships, they build a little empire of red dwarf systems. In the rush to colonize more and more there is a huge focus on simply refining existing tech, and finally they encounter humanity on an expedition to see if G2V stars and co are able to support life as they know it despite being so stable. When they find Earth they orbit a few times to investigate and the high-altitude nuclear bursts accidentally knock out most of humanity's electronics, and it gets worse from there.

>>54470484
Worse?

>>54445731
wtf is "Modernpunk"?

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>>54468486
That's not the cool type of Tesla!

>>54469857
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog_of_London
>12k dead
>200k injured
>from 4 days of beijing quality air

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Can we have Arcanum's gnomes?

Atompunk bros what are some good movies/books about the setting? Im starting to get interested by it

>>54443194
I say! What is the source of this fine young filly Sir, if you please.

I prefer Punkpunk. All the engines are fueled by incinerating steampunk cosplayers.

>>54478213
>All the engines are fueled by incinerating steampunk cosplayers.

Wouldn't that be 'Sucker-Punk'?

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>>54474829

>>54474543

My guess would be "Stuff we have nowadays, but taken to an extreme level."

>>54478908
That would be a good name for a company or something

>>54479297
Behold, THE SUPER INTERNET

Is solar-punk a thing?

I can never get real invested in steampunk settings, or Victorian settings for that matter.

>>54469372
>idontlikething!.jpg

>>54479827
I think we actually had a thread about that which got archived.

>>54480101
Blame the fact that Victorian era is rather meh with Edwardian, Regency, and late Georgian eras having far more interesting stuff in them.

>>54481063
Plantagenet was the best era

>>54474809
Christ

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>>54477468
Well Fallout is an obvious example, but there's also Gibson's Gernsback Continuum and a lot of old stuff by Heinlein, E.E. "Doc" Smith and the like.

>>54441916
You're missing biopunk and clockpunk friendo.

>>54442999
>Liking steampunk
>Post dieselpunk
Amazing!