Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>Vehicule have HP and can flee.
>Fabius Bile instant death on 2+ charge a squadron of Warlord titan
>kill one easily, the other 2 flee.

Wow surely its the most playtested edition ever fucktards..
Play 7ed unless you are actually on the spectrum

First for report /pol/ posting, then move on

Chaos minor races when? Also cant orks fall to chaos its just super rare?

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As the main Taufag in /40kg/ I want to be usefull for once and tell you that pic related is truly the single best airbrush (or brush... for that matter, but don't dillute as its already extremely THIN) paint for dreads/vehicules/ and of course, Tau MasterRace Suits.
Given the high amount of GunPla poster of previous thread, i guess a lot of you are looking for thin satin finish paints.

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>>54264577
You would think that having 600+ paint references woth different consistency for each uses would be enough for Vallejo, but they actually improved and nailed AGAIN with the Mecha Paints

I don't dare buying paint pots from GW anymore because they dry up in a short time. I use vallejo now instead.

Is there any tricks to keep GW paint from drying up and becoming useless?

>>54264560
>Either incredibly good bait or supreme retard.

Has someone on /tg/ already made an attempt to reintroduce armour facings and improving/reintroducing blast/template weapons.

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>reposting from the other thread since the exterminatus

>>54264430
it somewhat triggers me that the weapons in 40k called 'bolt' gun/pistol or whatever fire miniture rockets in the exact same way as the gyrojet.

Yet a gyrojet (or any similar self propelled) weapon does not require a bolt at all. None of them actually have one as a part. Thats the whole point of self propelled munitions, they require significantly less mechanisms and parts to fire therefore reducing the weight.

really makes you think....


>Also remember to report /pol/ posts anons

>>54264553
>warlord titans don't come in squadron
>even if they did you would need to kill 5 in 1 turn before they lose any to morale

0/10

>>54264613
Wet palettes for during work. Outside of that, chuck a ball from a bearing into every can and shake regularly and vigorously.

>>54264613
whenever i open a paint i havent used in ages i mix in water and stir it around...it should be noted that im currently searching for my paints that i havent since 2003 when i last played this game so it will be interesting when i find them...

fucking 8th edition making my come crawling back

>>54264592
>>54264577
Opinion on gunpla and gundam markers?
I picked up a set with some panel lining markers for my tau, was it a good investment?
Do I need to prime or if I don't does it work on models that have already been base coated?
Can they be used on things that aren't flat surfaces like fire warriors?

>>54264627
'Bolt' refers to ammunition they fire, not the mechanism.

>>54264553
I'm looking at his stats. By what mechanism does Fabulous Bill do Instant Death?

>>54264560
I hate roads and thats why I run only skimmers and jump pack armies.

>>54264653
he doesn't, he especially doesn't wound vehicles on 2+

>>54264652
that kind of makes more sense... i think what they're referring to as the bolt is actually called a sabot

but that still makes no sense when you consider that the projectiles are point detonated and sabot isnt..maybe i should just stop trying to make sense of GW

Alright you nerds, create your own specific sub-faction ruleset.
Make the format similar to 4th edition space marine chapter traits.
For example:

>Sub Faction name
Vostroyan Firstborn
>Trait advantage
<REGIMENT> INFANTRY can purchase Carapace armour (4+ armour save) at 2 points per model.
>Trait Disadvantage
Armies using this sub-faction cannot use units with the MILITARUM AUXILIA keywords

>>54264653
its an ""old"" meme from before 8th datasheet.
Basically /tg/Grognards thinks actual GameDesigner were that dumd.

>>54264674
Look, just treat it as in-universe slang for this specific type of projectile and calm thine spectrum.

>>54264650
Short answer : No problem ot will work much better than any GW decal.
Long answer : post here >>6411268

>>54264694
fucked up link >>>/toy/6411268

How are Daemon Princes performing compared to the Chaos Lord variants?

Not sure if the body is worth the points, since I can either hang back and buff my dreadnoughts or have him support my khornate terminators in combat so the flexibility is kind of a factor.

>>54264646
here

anyone got some good paint/brush companies they use that are good quality but not as expensive as GW stuff? im looking at Vallejo paints right now based on what you guys have been talking about. Any other 'go to' companies that you guys use? Im just getting back into 40k and fuck paying GW prices for things that i can get for half the price

>>54264675
That's quite expensive carapace desu I guess that's fine.

>>54264560
Reminder that orks commit crimes only because they are poor and victims of arbites brutality.
#Greenlivesmatters

>>54264675

>Sub Faction name
Auxilia Tempestus
>Trait advantage
<REGIMENT> units can take orders from Militarum tempestus officers and may embark upon thier transports
>Trait Disadvantage
Armies using this sub-faction cannot use units without either the Militarum Tempestus, Auxilia Tempestus or Aeronautica Imperialis Keywords

>>54264675
>Sub Faction name
Carcharodons
>Trait advantage
<CARCHARODONS> INFANTRY (excluding Terminators) can purchase a chainsword at 2pts a model.
>Trait Disadvantage
I'm paying 2pts a model for chainswords

Fuck you GW and FW I want my chainswords

>>54264706
If, at the start of any given phase, your prince isn't suplexing fools or about to start suplexing fools, you've wasted points. They make a good second HQ though, being a beatstick that provides demon synergy and psychic powers.

>>54264727
Reminder that gorkslam is a religion of the choppa.
#waaaghwatch
At least they're not morkmons, though.

>>54264706
You get psychic powers and anti vehicle punch. I suspect relics will largely fix this for chaos lords though. Also the high wounds and toughness makes small arms fire near useless.

>>54264730
Imma spend 200 points so my Carcharodons leader can hold 100 chainswords and have 100 extra attacks now. He's just a ball of chainswords and rolls on people okay.

>>54264756

You model 100 chainswords onto a single marine and I'll let it pass.

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>>54264716
For paints i stick to Army Painter/Vallejo like most.
I tend to buy box sets because they're usually really well done.
for brush it depends. for small brushes I go with boutique custom "expensive" brushes, for wash I use my very very old GW brushes.

>>54264629
4 if those spooky reavers are about !

>>54264749
True, they are billions of billions of orks, if all of them were waaghadists, we would all be dead by now, don't put them all in the same basket, most orks just want to live peaceful lives, stop gorkslamphobia NOW !

>>54264756
Reminds me of my friend bitching about how they FAQd Trygons attacks down by 1 despite having three pairs of talons. I had to point out that RAW was "two or MORE pairs" were the same cost and if they didn't clarify that you could model a Trygon made entirely out of Monstrous Scything Talons for a Bajillion attacks.

>>54264767
.. .D-don't tempt me..

>>54264675
The Tainted DG subfaction
Chaos spawn, nurglings and possessed available as troops. Chaos spawn and possessed get disgustingly resilient, reroll disgusting near daemon princes.
Disadvantage cant take preds, vindicators, land raiders. Plague Marines revert to elite, even for death guard taken alongside them

How good are tauroxes and how should one gear them up? Primes and regular.

>>54264675
>Sub Faction name
Valhallan Ice warriors
>Trait advantage
Not one step back!
<REGIMENT> units do not need to make morale tests while they are in cover or their own deployment zone
>Trait Disadvantage
Armies using this sub-faction can only have 1 of any Battlefield-role for each <REGIMENT> troop choice they have.

>>54264675
>Sub Faction
Harakoni Warhawks
>Trait Advantage
<Regiment> Infantry may take Valkyries and Vendettas as dedicated transports as well as flyers
>Trait Disadvantage
May only take <Tempestus>, <Aeronautica Imperialis> and Tarantula units

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So this isn't the only plague marine kit, right? There'll be an actual kit, correct?

>>54264791
But they waaaghdicalize the second a warboss shows up! We must continue our policy of assassination and preemptive exterminatus strikes.

>>54264819
I don't see any buff here, just take a flyer wing along with 2 batallions

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>>54264716
I actually got the army painter start set for like $20 and that shit is a god send.

I was using a bunch of chinese dollar store paint and brushes before and it really doesn't even compare.

>Haha make your own Chapter traits guys
>Flooded with Guard Regiments
Guardfags, not even once.

>>54264814
primes are currently hilariously good for thier cost

either go 28 shot dakkarox for 96 points or 2 double autocannon and missile for antieverything for 140 points

>>54264768
cheers, yea ill probably end up using Vallejo especially since the /wip/ thread has the paint range compatibility chart. Any things i should know using their paints?

>Sub Faction name
Hive Fleet Kraken
>Trait advantage
Add 1" to all movement made by <HIVE FLEET> units using these sub-faction rules.
>Trait Disadvantage
<HIVE FLEET> units in this sub-faction reduce their synapse range by 1".

>>54264822
Yeah in like 3 months.

>>54264675
>Subfaction name
Dark Angels
>Trait advantage
DARK ANGELS units may reroll all to hit rolls of 1 during the fight phase against HERETIC ASTARTES. In addition, all UNFORGIVEN units automatically pass morale tests and reroll all failed hit rolls against FALLEN units
>Trait disadvantage
No models in this army may be included with any army that has units with the FALLEN keyword. In addition all units in this army can never fall back in the fight phase if the combatant has the FALLEN keyword.

>>54264822
yes.
That's the cheap 3 marine kit we had for a long time.

>>54264675
>Sub Faction name
Craftworld Yme-Loc
>Trait advantage
Exemplary craftsmanship: all wave serpents, falcons, fire prisms and night spinners gain +1 wound.
>Trait Disadvantage(s)
With the exception of swooping hawks and warp spiders, all INFANTRY must begin the game in a transport.
May only take 1 unit with the SPIRIT HOST keyword in each slot per detachment (e.g. only 1 of your 3 elites may be a SPIRIT HOST unit in a Yme-Loc battalion), and no more than half (rounding down) of the total choices in a detachment may have the SPIRIT HOST keyword.

Of course, this could be a bit pointless if Yme-Loc get official rules anyway.

>>54264730
I'd say you could get away with 1ppm, that's what grey hunters pay for a chainsword. (Well, actually it's free for them to take one, but they're 1ppm more expensive than tacticals.)

The new Death Guard tank looks amazing. I might get at least two. Tanks with dozer blades. More of those please.

>>54264855
Fuck off you'll get your own codex

>>54264833
>Subfaction
Harakoni Warhawks
>Train Advantages
<Regiment> infantry can no longer die to grav chute insertion and <Aeronautica Imperialis> units suffer no penalty for moving and firing heavy weapons.
>Trait Disadvantages
May only take <Aeronautica Imperialis> and <Tempestus> units

>>54264868
Make me faggot

>>54264879
way better, if you added ability to take bullgryns aswell that would be amazing

>>54264881
Don't make me suck your dick

>>54264896
Do it faggot. Put on a wig if you must.

Has there been a leak about the release of the first Codexes? I'm assuming that's around the time the first multipose models will be released and I want a vague timeframe to have stuff painted by

>>54264909
Here:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/05/your-codex-is-coming-july-5gw-homepage-post-1/

>>54264849
If you dont know what you are doing, only ever buy their Game Air(Mat) or Airbrush Mecha (Satin, for vehicules) Range.
They are made for Airbrush.. and so are EXTREMELY thin.
Try going into a modelling store to experience the difference youself tho.
If you know how to perfectly dillute consistently, and the difference between every dullution solutions, buy the standard range,theyll be cheaper

>>54264879

><Aeronautica Imperialis> units suffer no penalty for moving and firing heavy weapons
>Hover with a Vulture to BRRRT on 3s+
>Combo with a Master of the Fleet for maximum carnage

>>54264675
>Sub Faction name
RYZA

>Trait advantage
Up to LEMAN RUSS EXECUTIONERS in this army may be given the SKITARII, ADEPTUS MECHANICUS and RYZA keywords, and gains the CANTICLES OF THE MACHINE SPIRIT ability

>Trait Disadvantage
Any models from the ORKS faction may reroll To Hit rolls of 1 against units from this subfaction.

>>54264675
>Subfaction Name
Kel'Shan Sept
>Trait Advantages
At the beginning of your movement phase roll a D6 for every damaged <Sept> Battlesuit and <Vehicle>, on a 4+ it regains a wound
>Trait Disadvantages
Only <Battlesuit> and <Vehicle> units may be taken

Is this too OP?
>>54264893
Would it be fluffy though?

>>54264925
derp, "up to" should be "all"

>>54264922
>Hover
Why?
You already hit on 3+ if you don't move don't you?

>>54264927
>Would it be fluffy though?

are the warhawks near any high gravity planet? I wouldn't be completely out of character to try and train some specialists units

>>54264947

everything is heavy so if you move you hit on 5+, strafing run makes it 4+ against non flyers

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>Intercessor squad: each model is armed with either a bolt rifle, an auto bolt rifle, or a stalker bolt rifle (all models in the unit must be armed identically)
>Bolt rifle: 30" Rapid Fire 1 S4 AP-1 D1
>Auto bolt rifle: 24" Assault 2 S4 AP0 D1
>Stalker bolt rifle: 36" Heavy 1 S4 AP-2 D1
>enough guns in the box for all of these options
A man can dream, right?

>>54264954
why dont you want a 36"Plasma instead ?

>>54264954
Oh, forgot to say, inb4 this shit I just made up appearing on BOLS/faeit.

>>54264951
I meant if you can move and fire with no penalty why hover?
Warhawks are famous for being purely stormtroopers and special weapon squads with air support and using grav chutes, no Bullgryns anywhere in sight sadly.

>>54264954
i dont see why i would ever want the auto version over the rifle

>>54264915
Thanks anon

I was hoping for a more concrete date, but that'll do

>>54264954
If that happens, I think you'll see 10 bolters which can be given scopes or box magazines (like with the Primaris Captain). I don't think you'll get 15/30 guns in the box.

>>54264973
you might fly off the board or summin

>>54264973
>I meant if you can move and fire with no penalty why hover?

vultures cant move and fire with no penalty

>>54264917
is their standard range hard to dilute properly? i never had any trouble getting GW paints to the proper consistency.

>>54264675
>Subfaction name
Forgeworld Mars
>Trait advantage
All armies with the MARS keyword are allowed to reroll a single failed morale test once per turn. In addition, all SKITARII RANGERS and SKITARII VANGUARD are allowed to take 4 special weapons in a 10 man squad rather than 3.
>Trait disadvantage
All NECRONS units may reroll hit rolls of one against MARS units. In addition, all C'TAN SHARDS units gain 2 Powers of the C'tan rather than just 1.

>>54264675

>Sub Faction name
Crimson Guard

>Trait advantage
Techpriests can be taken as either elite or HQ choices
All 5+ save infantry units are improved to 4+, for 1 PPM (this is not optional).
All units gain the adeptus mechanicus keyword in addition to the existing ones.

>Trait Disadvantage
>Conscript and Rough riders units cannot have the CRIMSON GUARD as their <REGIMENT> keyword.

>>54264947

Just to remain within 18" of the MotF

>>54264986
please read comment chain before posting
>>54264985
with a 20" move you can just do laps even on a 4x4 table (my local gw only has 4x4 since it's fucking tiny), no need to hover since hard to hit is too valuable

>>54264990
No, its not harder than GW paints

>>54264964
Because that wouldn't be a troops choice.

>>54265006
>not taking multiple MoTF to abuse air raids and putting them 6 lascannon vendettas for 4+ move and shoot ready to drop a MoTF to rape some poor unlucky sod just because he looked your flyer wrong.

>>54264927

>Is this too OP?
The rules would be auto-take for suit lists, but markerlight support would be limited to drones and Tetras.

>>54264983
Honestly that's a better solution anyway, and it's sort of what I want. Buy some other gear from, like, Anvil Industries to tac them out and make either Raptors or Emperor's Warbringers in full tactical operator style.

>>54265016
Good thing we dont need troop choice anymore

>>54264965
It's what I've been suspecting for a few weeks now. It's just too... logical not to be a thing?

But then again, that might be exactly why it won't be.

>>54265027
I mean, if you want more CP you do.

And there is the matter of cost.

>>54265022
since we can split wounds, we are looking to at most +1hp/suitteam / turn, and thats only ona 50/50 chance.

definetly not op.

>>54265034
>taking shitty models so that you can have CP to make them less shittt
or
>Taking only Strong option while still having CP(albeit, less) to make them do badass things

>>54265049
or
>taking only strong options and also a damocles to regenerate those CP that you never had

>>54264577
Do you have any examples you can show of these, I've seen them mentioned in a few places but haven't seen any actually in use so I'm not sure how they're different from regular airbrush paints.

>>54264822
Yes, we'll get a modular box someday.
However, with a bit of conversion work you could do a lot with these three. The champion with the Plasma Gun on the backpack you could cut the Power Fist off and give him a normal Bolter to count as Combi-Plasma, the guy with the Blight Launcher could be cut up and turned into holding, say, a Heavy Flamer, which you can count as a normal Flamer and the Bolter dude has the Bolter as a seperate piece so you could take the gun off, give him whatever special weapon you want him to have and then greenstuff a tentacle to hold the gun.
And if you're desperate, Intercessors are barely taller than Nu-Plague Marines and probably dirty up really well.

>>54265049
That only works if the models in question are, actually, shit.

Of which those wouldn't be.

>>54265049

>so that you can have CP to make them less shittt
You don't use CP on units like that. You blow CP on bad rolls for Blast weapons, critical saves for characters and failed charges.

>>54265069
>We'll get a modular box someday
Keep telling yourself that

>>54265038
is it viable or worth it for suit lists?
also loss of stealthsuits hurts fusion bombing so idk if it's too shit now.

>>54265075
Yes, I will, thank you, because I'm not a doomsaying drooling retard.

>>54264613
Make sure you actually have the lid closed. None of that a slightly raised towards the hinge nonsense.

>>54265089
>>54265075
>B-b-b-but GW doesnt like money!
Is it doomsaying grognard day? I love doomsaying grognard day!

>>54264954
If those were the options, nobody would ever take anything but the Bolt Rifle. The auto bolt rifle has lower range and from 15" onwards is simply the same gun but with lower AP and the Stalker Rifle would make any Sternguard laugh at them.

If the auto rifle (both for them and for the Lieutenant) were Assault 3 and the Stalker rifle (both for them and the Captain) were Heavy 2, they might be worth considering, but they don't really need options worse than their baseline wargear.

>>54265075
In the Death Guard tease there were power armoured infantry DG that were neither Dark Imperium nor this Easy-Build kit

>>54265071
Except you could have way more blast weapons, and units to make charge with, if not for wasting points on shit troops

>>54265070
And how exactly would they hold up against the supposed 36"range Plasma (so D2) the argument started on ?
Yeah right. I'll gladly pay 4ppm more and not have that model be shit.

>>54265111
Yep, one with an awesome-looking flail that I hope hints at a more CC-oriented alternative for Plague Marines. Or maybe he's just some character

>>54264675
>Sub Faction name
Alpha Legion
>Trait advantage
ALPHA LEGION detachments change Chosen to the Troops slot rather than the Elites slot. In addition, any ALPHA LEGION INFANTRY may choose to set up 12" away from enemy forces prior to the start of Turn 1.
>Trait Disadvantage
ALPHA LEGION units may not take Marks of Chaos. In addition, you must have more INFANTRY type units than all others combined.

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>>54264560
FUCK YOU ANON
CONE NIPPLE MASTER RACE

>>54265115
>4ppm

What, what? Intercessors are 20ppm. Hellblasters are 38ppm.

>>54264675
>Sub faction name
Iron Warriors

>Trait advantage
Remove the last sentence in the Master of Mechanism special rule. Vehicles do not suffer a -1 penalty to hit rolls on heavy weapons when moving.

>Trait disadvantage
May not take units from Fast Attack. May not include any non-vehicle daemons in the army. Iron Hands may re-roll wound rolls of 1 against <Iron Warriors> vehicles.

>>54264675
>Sub Faction name
Evil Sunz
>Trait advantage
<KLAN> vehicles always count as rolling a 6 when they advance
>Trait Disadvantage
Armies using this sub-faction are limited to one less heavy support option than normal

>>54265115
You have a strange version of what you think shit is.

>>54265139
This is silly. Should be getting access to certain artillery.

>>54265126
>not 'every unit, friendly or enemy, deployed in the same battle as any Alpha Legion unit gains the Alpha Legion keyword'

>>54264990
Buy some Vallejo airbrush thinner (even if you are brush painting) it dillutes vallejo paints beautifully. I'd also recommend some liquitex matte medium so you can make your own glazes.

>>54264675
>Sub Faction Name
SM Chapter - Sable Wings
>Trait advantage
[Remember the Fallen, Honor Baal]: <Sable Wings> units may benefit from abilities that affect <Blood Angels> units and vice versa.
[Transport Corps] <Sable Wings> Transports gain +4 transport capacity>
>Trait Disadvantage
[Doomed Chapter]: <Sable Wings> units lose 1 leadership per model lost that turn, until end of turn.

>>54265151
I'm not sure which.

>>54265151
You already do you butt. Does it not have the Chaos keyword?

>>54265068
Vallejo is the favorite brand of serious commission painter/golden demon winner etc.
This particular set of paint isn't out yet, but a lot of Golden Demon/SlayerSword/Hussard winner and commission painter got send the entire 60+ Mecha paint range to test them heavily before release.

They will be out soon, you can see example of those paint mainly on facebook >>54264592 or painters blogs.
The Main reported difference is how the subtle satin finish react to interior/exterior light while being an airbrush paint and so extremely THIN.

If only GW could put like even 1/10th of the money Vallejo spend in paint R&D maybe they wouldn't suck so much

>>54265143
*one less heavy support option than normal in each detachment

>Subfaction
Word Bearers
>Trait Advantage
<WORD BEARERS> units do not need to make morale tests if they are not benefitting from cover.
>Trait Disadvantage
Armies using this sub-faction cannot use units with the KHORNE, TZEENTCH, NURGLE or SLAANESH keywords unless they also possess the DAEMON keyword


I'm bored of WB special rules always only focusing on daemons. So instead they get a bonus for being fanatics.

>>54264675

>Sub Faction name
Deff Skulls
>Trait advantage: Wreckers
Whenever a <KLAN> unit destroys an enemy VEHICLE, place an additional objective marker on the table where the VEHICLE was destroyed. Each of these objective markers is worth 1 victory point at the end of the battle.
>Trait Disadvantage: Looted vehicles
All <KLAN> models that are also VEHICLES cannot be repaired.

Hard thinking of a disadvantage for these guys.

>>54265137
would still not loose time with intershittors

Anyone else find it really weird fielding something like Blood Angels, White Scars or Salamanders due to how strong their themes are?

Like all those guys have entire companies of tactical marines yet it feels like a waste of you exclude or include them. If you run White Scars with 50 bikes and no marines it feels wrong but if you do include marines it feels like 'why run White Scars at all'.

I'm not really up to date with Primarine lore. Are Primarine exclusively deployed as 100% Primaris chapters, or are there mixed chapters where normal Marines fight alongside Primaris Marines ?

>>54265224
Both

>>54265182
Surely something to do with summoning?

Like a guy can summon multiple from the different Gods, or suffers no summon perils or gains a bonus to summoning?

>>54265224
Both. Gorillaman made entire chapters from his final ~20000 survivors of the indomitus crusade, but a lot of the other fifty thousand were also subbed out as eleventh companies for oldmarine chapters, so feel free to field mixed primarines and oldmarines

>>54265075
They're getting their own codex, and you don't think they'll get more kits?

>>54264728
I wish we had abhuman troops of some kind, cheaper dudes than ogryn but tougher than guardsmen. I want to put together an Auxilia list but there's so little to choose unless you include Scions.

>>54265277
my list is pretty much that

voldus
2 vindicare
6x scion troops, melta and plasma in each
3 taurox
2 valks
2x 4 bullgryns

voldus slightly converted to be british beret tempestor who just happens to be in terminator armor

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I haven't played Sisters since there was a SoB codex, but they're having a bath in green right now getting ready to repaint.

I was thinking of picking up Celestine and two Avengers to support them then wait for the codex to see what else is new. Anything else you see as mandatory for them now?

I have two immolators, a land raider (don't think I can use it tho?), about 40 SoB, various heavy weapons and assault weapons, 20 seraphim, plus two cannoness and random stuff.

I'm planning on converting some storm bolsters to make a specialist squad or two out of basic Sisters but not sure what else to do.

>>54265277

How about some kind of infantry that is Toughness 4 with a 3+ save?

>>54264954
>enough guns in the box for all of these options

They wouldn't be guns, they'd be the captain style piece you swap out the magazine and scope. Autorifle would have a drum, stalker would have a scope and and straight mag, rifle would have a curved mag.

>>54265297
>2 valks
>2x 4 bullgryns

I'd change it to 4 bullgrin + 3 bullgryn + priest + anything you fancy

>>54265000
>Techpriests can be taken as either elite or HQ choices
they literally already can be taken as elite options

>>54265305
Great idea ! Make them bio-engineered then give them a nice armor or something

>>54265049
>don't bring troop choices
>cry when your d100 damage supergun gets drowned in 1w wheat and chaff units

>>54265315

Point is, in CRIMSON GUARD regiments you can take them also as HQ, but still can pick them as elite if you want.

>>54264613
Close the lid when not using it ya git

>>54264577
>Tau MasterRace Suits
>Talks about gunplas
Yeah like i said before, you are pretty much a Washio Fag, i bet your favorite Gundam is IBO

Thanks I didn't know they were going to release that, Vallejo truly master race.

>>54265324
>>cry when your d100 damage supergun gets drowned in 1w wheat and chaff units

Grav relic leviathan baby

>>54265314
i used to run 3 + priest + auxilia company commander before the FAQ, because i could attack in shooting phase with orders, however priest is not worth it anymore

3 + priest = 16 attacks on charge, 13 after
4 = 17 attacks on charge, 13 after

single priest would be better if both teams fought together, but that is rarely the case as they more than hold thier own without any support

>>54264675
Vostroyans were know for caparace armor? Wouldn't be better to equip every soldier with master crafted lasrifles?

>>54265301

>Celestine
She's pretty much auto-take in games above 1k.
>Avengers
Not as useful anymore as flying units are easier to shoot down.
>Immolators
I have 4 and the Immolation Flamer is great. Put meltas on the battle sisters and leave the flamers on vehicles.
>Land raider
Can only carry what it states on its profile, so no SoB units.
>Heavy Weapons
Try getting a unit of heavy Bolter retributors together. They're looking great with the new rules.
Heavy Flamers are better off on tanks.
>Canoness'
Have one of these around clusters of shooting units you'll be using, especially Exorcist batteries.
>Storm bolters
I only use these to fill the last 4 points of a list.

>>54265339
>knows the name of any gundam
GTFO

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Tfw your local GW is closed and it's raining so you can't paint

Feels bad man

>>54265371
Sprayfag pls go

>>54265339

So, which gundam is the best one and why it's GP-02?

>>54265364

How do you represent master-crafted lasguns tho?

>>54265364
When Vossies were introduced, their doctrines gave them Carapace and whatever the skill was that let you re-roll 1s to hit, which would perfectly represent their better than average armour and guns.

>>54265378
Nah I just do my painting in the garden

>>54265345

You lose 1A on the charge, but the priest itself compensates for that with a cheap storm bolter.

And you have 3 transport slots for other stuff (IE: inquisitorial acolytes or even an inquisitor)

30ish pt for 3 extra 4+ storm bolters is nice

>>54265390
Reroll 1s to hit.

>>54265379
That's not Leopard

>>54264577
Is it only airbrush?

>>54265369
Thanks anon

So maybe I pick up two more immolators and enough meltas to fill out some dominion squads?

I have priests and random =I= stuff, any of that I should bother with?

>Remove aquila and decoration from bolt rifles
>Get better bolt rifles
It is known.

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>>54265339
pleb

>>54264646
I'm still using gw foundation paints from over a decade ago. Like you say, add water and stir

>>54265431

D2 on a roll of 6 to wound sounds better for lasguns.

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Reminder

>>54265470
Given how they outsell everything GW, I guess its just you

>>54265369
Storm Bolter are 2 points thanks to the FAQ.

>>54265301
SoB have not change much. The traditional 5 girl squad with flamers has been replaced by storm Bolter or melts if you hate Dominions for some reason.

Repressor are almost mandatory for Dominions since all 5 of them can shoot out from it, also they can grant it, their bonus pre turn one move. Giving them flamer is rather pointless when you have Immolator with super flamer for your other girls.

Exorcist is basically the same. Heavy Bolter retribution squad are rather good, mostly because they can spam 8th magic number "S5 AP-1"
Math wise that thing can ignore cover and wound the hardiest shit on a 5+

Normal flamers unless you can get 4+ on a squad they are not really worth it. Specially in squad with no fly rule to get out of the way once they get get charged.

On the other hand seraphim worked well with hand flamers till the FAQ that nerfed hand flamers and kept the high price. So you are better of with Inferno pistol. So you can be sure to murder what ever you shoot.

>>54265485
When did we pick up the english version?

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>>54265378
>he doesnt airbrush

>>54265495
I dropped it last night. UK time.

>>54265489
>sales as quality
Hi /v/.

>>54265495
>he doesn't know useful languages.
If it was in French I would understand but Spanish? Really?

>>54265485
They aren't as bad as everyone is saying they are, but without a means of getting them up close, they're either going to be sniped out, require a screen unit or a dedicated vehicle.
I can see the use, but at the same time I can see the flaws.

Haven't played since 5th edition, how much as 40k changed?

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>>54265499
>he does airbrush

>>54265521
A lot

>>54265521
Lots. The new rules are 6 pages long.

>>54265523
>he does not know the power of a painting box
Do you snort resin too?

>>54265516
>spic
>useful

>>54265485
I remember GeeDubs said they can equip power sword and grav-chute. What happened ?

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>>54265470
THAT is. Most customs are more sensible than a Zaku head and a garish paint scheme

>>54265534
Any chance of a quite summary?
>>54265540
Well that's shit but doesn't really surprise me.

>>54265540
Lies! They are like 4 pages long with pictures and pop ups for little kids

>>54265467
Why? don't tell me you like Washio desings.

>>54265489
But he is right, half of the asian people make some really good conversion with superior skills but their concepts are boring. And he was talking about that conversion not gunpla as a whole.

>>54265552
>Being this buttblasted and buying shit quality kits from japan

>>54265548
this is the sheet from Know no fear. that is why they are ultramarines.

>>54265553
Vehicles are like monstrous creatures.

All phases simplified or reworked.

>>54265494
Do you have to custom build depressors?

>>54265548
I think that these rules are specific to First Strike and that the Codex will flesh them out.
This says the unit is 1-3. When we know it's 5 minimum. The rules in First Strike don't let them use their terror powers. There's no Reiver with a bolter either. Mark me, they will be killing machines once the codex comes out

>>54265553
It's actually pretty good imo

>>54265559
kek

>>54265558
>haha hey mom look I can phonepost haha

If two 40kids cant read its even better btw.

>>54265467
I just noticed the drones.
Are those markerlight drones? Talk about a waste.

>>54265560
Huh he is apparently only talking about quality >>54265504

>>54265576
>depressors
Repressors

>>54265167
That's not the same. Basilisks and whatnot with CSM crew is what they should get, among other things.

>>54265467
and they say warhammer is over designed.

>>54265576
>depressor
kek.
Yes and no, you can simply buy it from recasters. Fun fact recaster have the fuck up version FW sold, so they had to fix that quality resin product in order to recast it. That is why the thing has a huge tail for no reason.

>>54264533
>Reminder

>Ment to be a sneaky CC unit
>Not 1 stat reflecting this

>>54265563
>shit quality
>when finecast exists
Great beast of gorgoroth.

>>54265544
>asking for translation
>useful
Geez no wonder they are talking all your jobs.

>>54265516
>he doesn't know useful languages.

Out of the way, plebe.
German/English/Latin/Ancient Greek/Ancient Hebrew master race coming through

>>54265182
They should get Possessed as troops and some sort of buff to them, desu.

>>54265552

I was reflecting to myself last night how awesome Primaris marines would be with Gundam heads, and how the spaceman model would look awesome if it had production decals like a 1/100 grade Gundam (or like the Sinanju, since I was watching Blood Angels batrep last night).

>>54265467
I really thought this was a bionical from the thumbnail. Now I'm pretty sure it's an overpriced gaming pc.

>>54265582
>I think that these rules are specific to First Strike and that the Codex will flesh them out.
>This says the unit is 1-3. When we know it's 5 minimum. The rules in First Strike don't let them use their terror powers. There's no Reiver with a bolter either. Mark me, they will be killing machines once the codex comes out
Pretty much this.

>>54265623
>Latin
Glad we agree Latin based languages are the best. Expect French and Portuguese fuck those.

Are space marines asexual?

>>54265600
Right ... awesome thanks! I was not around for that FW vehicle's life cycle

>>54265646
They have no sexuality, if that's what you're asking.

>>54265639
>Schlomo
>implying you need to be Jewish to have to learn that
>implying you don't have to study this if you want to teach RE in Germany
FML

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>>54265559

>>54265663
Not knowing at least 3 languages should be a death penalty, it is like asking for Alzheimer.

>>54265641
>>54265582
Also don't forget the datasheets that came with the Primaris Captain and Librarian, where it said the full rules and options were to be found in the Codex
So I assume the rules that you find in the boxes are literally just the rules for the options the box comes with whereas the Codex books will just throw options at those models

>>54265676
Counting your own? or 3 more?

>>54265691
Counting your own works too. Then thing is you must know at least 3.
People that only know 2 can be second class citizens

>>54265689
Agreed. A few days ago, someone said (lifting quote from archives)

"So where's where are all the options for sergeants and officers? Where are the special weapons for the hellblasers? Where's the 20 man bolter squads with standard bearers and vox-operators?"

To which I said, "Coming within 2 months if you ask me. Get the boxes out there, get the new codices out there, then release the new units alongside that codex. Have you not noticed that you can't straight up buy Primaris Marines yet? It's because they don't fit the game as it currently exists."

I see a total overhaul coming with codices that benefits people that bought the starter boxes.

>>54264836
Army Painter black is way better than the Abaddon Black shit GW pushes now
It's opaque, satin, and 1 coat.

>>54265644
Estad un Portuguese? Brbrbrbrbr huehuehue

>>54264553
thats a vintage meme, circa idk a few weeks before 8th

>>54265485
>reiver sergeant doesn't have a spoopy helmet
>reiver sergeant doesn't cause enemy to suffer leadership penalty
Well, it's consistent, I guess.

>>54265718
Yeah I have serious problems with Abaddon Black, and Vallejo black desu. The consistency feels wrong to it.

>>54265745
He's good with poxwalkers.

Shame his model looks like ass.

>>54265738
I actually bought the pushfits so I don't need to see that goofy bastard.

I created this thread to kill the old one which had descended into /pol/ induced shitposting.

It's back it seems. Sad!

>>54264533
Just play this game. Its only thousands of dollars.

>>54265455
I've been doing that too!

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>>54265820
>being poor

Spent some time at a flagship store recently, you constantly had tourists and shit with kids being shown how to paint and put together snapfit primaris or sigmarines. Feel sorry for those guys, being convinced to spend over 100 squid on something people will likely never fully commit to.

>>54265825
I don't see a problem? D isn't a thing anymore and things change.

>>54265846
>100 squid
atlantisposter pls go

I am not sure about posting it here on in /vg/ but is DoW 3 a good game and worth to buy? I really loved DoW1 but DoW 2 was meh, they promised to make it more like DoW1, so what is it now?
And is story and multiplayer good aswell?

>>54265485
>'These guys are scary' rules no longer come with a 'Half the armies in the game ignore it' clause
This is a small thing, but its nice. I got awful tired of seeing that shit.

>>54265863
No.

>>54265858
Second this
Atlantisfags GET OUT.

>>54265820
>buying tau cheap online
>tally up the cost so far
>over $300
Jesus Christ how horrifying.

>>54265863

At the moment it's a gutted version of DoW 1

I enjoyed 1 more than 2 and 2 a LOT more than 3, so...

It's crap

>>54265371
I hate that they are closed on Monday and Tuesday around here. I'm always the most free on Monday and Tuesday.

>>54265863
Well first the game is dying, regardless some guys love it and always defend it in most places where people shit talk about the game.

Right now the game have little content. Gameplay wise it is a blob fighter made wrong with some limited map mechanics that people compare with MOBAs a lot.

I was really expecting a DoW2 with bigger scale, less "tactical" with a proper base building like CoH2, pretty much a pre CoH3.

>>54265863
Holy fuck are you kidding?

Out of the entirety of 40k, it's got 3 playable armies. 3. It plays like a moba, you've got certain unit upgrades that are all very measured and static and your goal is to run through a hallway killing turrets until you get to the enemy power thing and destroy it to win, while they push out units of dudes at regular intervals to block you from getting there, complete with massively oversized cartoonish heroes that mash through the mobs that the enemy spawns.

It's not technically a moba but it's a limited shitty moba-esque piece of shit and everyone hates it, so fuck no. Not good enough to draw moba players and detestable dogshit to tabletop players and dawn of war players.

If you like RTS that are Warhammer 40k themed, play DoW1 with some of the crazy mods like ultimate apocalypse, which adds in the majority of the armies in the game with the majority of units for the armies as of an edition or two ago.

>>54265875
>>54265862
>>54265858
Lel.

Another thing though, seemed to me that Sigmar was more popular with kids and newcomers.

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>>54265863
>dow3
>good game and worth a buy?

>>54265937
Cute meme, warhammer fantasy has never been popular

>>54265934

From the hype i was expecting DoW1 meets Warcraft 3

The disappointment is real...

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>>54265947
>he thinks Age of Smegma is Fantasy

>>54265942
Do you not understand how tactical dreadnought armor works? Your arms don't reach all the way down the arms and legs, you control them remotely so if the arm gets blown off you don't lose your arm.

>>54265875
There is literally nothing wrong with being atlantian.

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>>54265960
>there isn't anything he can do about it

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>>54265970
So it's a battlesuit?
Thank you for the conversion idea.

>>54265947
Maybe it's just the staff who graduated towards it, but in terms of regulars, guys who go in to buy stuff, paint or play it was mostly 40k.

>>54265947
Sigmar isn't selling far more than Fantasy ever?

>>54266005
Selling 9000% more than 1 is still only 9000, compared to 8th edition 40,000 selling 40,000 more than 40,000

Thanks to all anons who explained me why DoW3 is a no-go. Guess we have to keep waiting for a decent 40k game yet to come

>>54265919
>he doesn't know about USA drug abuse fucking up other countries
>he doesn't know how hard the USA and the USSR fuck up other countries
Anon you are harvesting what you planted.

>>54265992
I can be a condescending asshole. Small victory but I'll take it.

>Sudden dive bomb of /pol/-posting
STOP.

>>54265970
Source

>>54266034
>If I was successfully a bit cunty about being wrong that means I win
So behaving like a woman means you win? That's a first.

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>>54266048

>>54266051
>wrong
Age of Six year olds is not Warhammer Fantasy.
It may be the rape child that burst from its violated anus but they're not the same.

>>54266059
Not sure anymore this /pol/fags all are bitching about feelings so no idea who is who now.

>>54266021
Yeah pretty much, the game makes me really sad because it is pretty possible they killed the franchise, if only the game didn't had the "Dawn of War" name.

New Thousand Sons models fucking when?

>>54266077
You just got them shut your fucking retarded mouth armorbody birdcunt

>>54265401
I've run that a few times, the priest just gets dumpstered on turn 1 in the combat phase, either i charge him in and he gets targeted instead of the bullgryns, or i dont do that and he gets shot because he's in the enemies deployment zone

since the FAQ nerf the 4th bullgryn has served me way better than others

>>54266077
>traitor legion player
>doesn't already buy from ForgeWorld

>>54266108

That's why you have the stormbolter acolytes to screen him

>>54266108

So the only worthwhile support character for Bullgryn is an Astropath then?

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>>54265970
HAHAHA no
Stop spreading misinformation.
Here's some official art.
Astartes wear the armor like normal.
Only an inquisitor or other standard human would have fully mechanical arms.

>>54266134
I would say the only worthwhile one is a primaris psyker for that +1 save, but you need to remember that anysupport with bullgryns will die the turn the bullgryns charge something

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What're you saddest about in 8th? Could be lore, rules, or any combo.

I'm saddest for sicarian Infiltrators, the lil guys we're really fun in 7th and I like the lore, but ffs they suck balls. Neurostatoc aura is useless, still T3, and only 2A now. Makes me sad

God Emperor is basically Lenin
and Imperium is Soviet Union

Prove me wrong, oh wait you can't

>>54266133
2 single wound acolyes cant screen shit anon

plus thats now 57? points for 3 stormbolters that die easily, the moment they die my bullgryns are nerfed

for cheaper i can just take a 4th bullgryn

>>54266172
>Its another 'DAE miss special rules for my snowflake units?' episode
We get it already. Wait for the fucking codex before complaining.

>>54266192
Not marxist in the slightest, marxists constantly talk about smashing empires in every single protest. Marxists are the evil that fictional evil armies are based on.

>>54264625
I've thought about it. For armor facing, I was considering changing the toughness and saves for each face. Like a Russ would be front: S 10, 2+, side: S 9, 3+ and rear: S 8, 3+. For templates, all would stay the same damage and strength wise, add back ignores cover and probably 1d6 for scatter.

>>54266169

If the psyker isn't meant for longevity, shouldn't you just keep it cheap?
I mean, if you're using psychic barrier it has the same chance of going off.

>>54265973
Squiggers be gone

>>54266197

They can shield more than you think, since you can take them as separate units, thus requiring split fire.

The enemy needs to wast an excessive amount of shots to kill them or run the risk of one surviving, thus preventing the next unit from targeting the priest.

In addition, with 20" move, 3" disembark and 6" move, the ogryns should easily be able to be within a couple inches from the enemy.

With ogryns a couple inches in front, hardly more than a unit would be able to target the priest, making 2 acolytes more than enough.

>>54266298
I didn't say that, I only said that fictional evil armies like chaos are based off of the horrors of marxism.

>>54266202
No. They gave a medium unit in 7th the same mistakes in 8th, then took away what little flavor and use it had. It's not like they can't fix it, but if no one talks about it they won't

>>54266298
>Empire isn't evil?
Unless you consider survival of the human race to be evil, no, it isn't.
>Zer... I mean Nids
Good try.

>>54265812
What the fuck were you expecting when you explicitly asked people to keep the politics off? That's like telling a 40kid not to touch your minis. Only instead of
>hue hue Poke hue
you get
>hurr fuckin immigrants ruining my glorious Burgerland

>>54266274
Why not hit/damage bonus instead of different values?

>>54266314
Two wrongs don't make a right. More importantly, illegal immigration is used as a valve to vent unrest and prevent a revolution. So everybody suffers for it. Close the borders, save Mexico.

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Just found a pic in my phone of the state of my army almost a year and a half ago. It's so small and cute. I feel like I might have a collection problem considering it's twice the size now.

Show of hands. I don't own a Hellhound or a Valk yet. What should my next purchase be?

>>54266319
>It's not like they can't fix it, but if no one talks about it they won't
Are you retarded? Or is your helmet just strapped on too tight today?

At this point should we go and raid /pol/ with 40k memes?

>>54266349
More infantry.

>>54266335
I feel that tanks are a bit more survivable this way, and hit modifiers can be affected by abilities negating the need to hit certain facing. By making the front of the Russ pretty tough encourages a player to try and flank the tank.

>>54266332
>Survival of human race
>Not going for alliance with more advanced races like space elves or space commies to get trade agreements for better technology and shit and finish the other faggots once and for all and have a world of peace and capitalism instead of being shitty commies

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so, /tg/, what mek gun configurations stick out to you? i got a new one and i just can't decide what to build

>>54266310
>They can shield more than you think, since you can take them as separate units, thus requiring split fire.

everything has split fire, this wont catch anyone out unless they are retarded

>The enemy needs to wast an excessive amount of shots to kill them or run the risk of one surviving, thus preventing the next unit from targeting the priest.

its a single wound, t3 model with a 5+ save, just throwing chaff weapons into it from vehicles is enough

alternatively they can just charge them or the priest

>In addition, with 20" move, 3" disembark and 6" move, the ogryns should easily be able to be within a couple inches from the enemy.

yes, they will be in close combat on turn 1

>With ogryns a couple inches in front, hardly more than a unit would be able to target the priest, making 2 acolytes more than enough.

the bullgryns will be elbow deep in the juiciest target they can find, there is a large chance that consolidation on the enemy can pull the priest into combat unless he's the max buff range away

its the option of:
17 s7 ap-1 d2 attacks on 3+

or

13 s7 ap1 d2 attacks on 3+
3 stormbolters

and if that priest cops it early, which it always does across the 20 something matches i fielded them, then i lose 3 bullgryn attacks

its simply not worth it anymore anon

>>54266301
astropath only rolls 1 dice so its 17% chance to cast, easy to deny, compared to ~54% on the primaris

that being said i still need to find space to bring them with me, the 2 valks generally dont go to the same place so my bullgyns can table pressure multiple points very easily and draw fire, which they are excellent at shrugging off if you mix 2 of each shield

>>54266412
>imperium
>commies
Stop being so retarded. It's feudalism at best, but it's got every single kind of government scattered across it's myriad worlds.
>alliance with xeno scum
Yea, cause it worked out so well the first time, right? Do you even know the fucking lore?

>>54266353
Both? Neither? I dunno, but what people say here sets the tone for what everyone else on the internet thinks. That much is undeniable

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How about this list?

Battalion +3 CP

HQ
Company Commander (Boltgun, Power Axe)
Commissar Yarrick

Troop
Conscripts (50)
2x Infantry Squad (Plasma, Lascannon HWT, Vox Caster)

Heavy Support
2x Basilisks (Flamer)
2x Cyclops Demolition Vehicle

>>54266412
Cawl made the same Eldar and Tau during his free time.

>>54266416

Mega Kannon > Smasha gun > Traktor kannon >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bubblechucka

>>54266412
Tau can maybe help, but the eldar are even more retarded xenophobes than the imperium.

>>54266308
Best post in this thread

>>54266403
B-but sempai I already have 70+lasguns now alone. Plus 6 of every special weapon, Sgt, and Vox caster!

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People keep memeing that there's new fluff about the AdMech forcing a population of Tau to walk into a volcano as mass execution. Anyone have sauce?

>>54266457

People can have the opinion they want

This is a TRADITIONAL GAMING board, if I want to hear autistic kids sperging about politics i go on /pol/.

I am on /tg/, so I want to hear autistic kids sperging about games.

>>54266349
valkyrie
they're amazing

>>54266472
I wish someone would make an E.Y.E Divine Cybermancy variant

>>54266475
It all started because someone got trigger by Spanish rules.

Someone got his feeling hurt and now we are at this

>>54266432
>lore
>implying the golden age fuck up was because of some xenos and not because they fucked it up by themselves

It's like saying that illuminati jews are at fault that we aren't travelling through space right now

>>54266442
>eldar
Well on economic level they surely will trade something, this is how you start alliance in first place, offer something, buy something, I am pretty sure both sides will be inderested in something from each other

>>54266441
bubblechukka has to be a joke at this point. has it EVER been good?

>>54266508
and I earned the right to poorfag, go buy some more chinacast and hopefully die from resin inhalation

>>54266495
Bah, if only. It's the same shitposter we've had for weeks. His daddy fucked his butt so raw that he'll do anything to make himself feel acknowledged, so every thread he finds something else to try and push our buttons with. A few threads ago he was acting like an obnoxious libtard, now he's acting like an obnoxious /pol/tard again, wouldn't surprise me if he was also the Shitsters of Basshole guy

>>54266499
Thanks laddie, although I am loathe to buy any Tau-wank

What are some good books about the Tau being btfo? I have the one about White Scars fighting Tau, and I get the feeling an AdMech book with Tau as antagonists would be excellent

>>54266503
But the golden age of humanity was literally murder fucked by xenos.

>>54266549
Tau aren't the antagonists. Let's just say the way the admech are defeated is stupid even by tau fluff standards.

>>54266522

Assuming "no extremes" rolls of 2-3-4-5 (cause extremes hurt you more)

You start by giving it 5 Str (or the opponent will give it 2/3 Str, making it utterly useless), opponent gives it 2 shots, ap and dmg is 3/4

So 2 S5 AP -3/4 D 3/4 shots. Not utterly awful, but still underwhelming.

The main problem is the strenght, it forces you to select it first or risk the weapon being completely useless.

How to fix the gun:

A: d6 / S: 3+d6 / AP -(1+d3) / D:d3

>>54266566
That's what the imperial nazis say. They just won't admit their fault and just blame it on xenojews.
Just try to tell them the fact that the emperor is just a vegetable on machinery, I dare you

>>54266595
Oh, you can't leave it at that. I'm not gonna read it, I gotta know how the sueberries won did the new youngest commander pilot a plane into the Mechanicus lead cruiser and disable all the Skitarii from orbit?

>>54266639
He's not wrong, telling anyone that the emperor is a man on a chair instead of a god is a death sentence.
Imperium is a pretty shitty place.

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>>54266639
>pointing out the fact that catholics space nazis are in fact nazis makes you a commie

DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS

>>54266403
>>54266456
IS THERE such a thing as too many lasguns?

>>54266679
But they are not catholic or nazi.
It is saying Eldar are space Japan just because they have mechas and shurikens

>>54266672
>man on a chair
A godlike man that saved humanity as is the only thing keeping it alive? Yea, i'd probably kill someone calling him just a man on a chair too if i lived there.
>Imperium is a pretty shitty place.
It became shitty to survive xenos and heretics. Literally their fault the galaxy isn't an enlightened paradise right now.

>>54266672
>forgetting the marines who generate him as man, not god
>forgetting the PRIMARCH whose in charge and wants people to say he's a man

>>54266664
the admech walk through a volcanic eruption and die

>>54266702
>Forgetting the inquisition and ecclesiarchy who will *BLAM* anyone who says otherwise if he doesn't have a chapter of super-human warriors covering his ass

>>54266702
Would you argue with fanatical super mutants, of which several do actually worship him as a god?

>>54266702
Imperials will still burn you for apostasy if you are not astartes.

>>54266679
>the imperium of man
>nazi
No, just no.
It's not facist, it's not nazi.
The imperium of man is an authortian decentralized theocratic feudal de jure empire de facto oligarchy.
It's not facist or nazi because it lacks practically everything that defines those two systems. Anyone who thinks it's facist or nazi just because it's authortian and not commie simply doesn't understand either how the imperium works, what facist and nazi are, or both

>>54266701
it's also a pretty shitty place for imperial citizens, just look at hive cities like Necromunda

>>54266349
Garbage. The guy up front is the best looking model you own.

>Tau have mecha
>imperial knights, remnants from the golden age of mankind, are mecha
I wonder what the lost mecha of humanity at its prime was.

>>54266349
How many points/PL do you think is on the table? I want to start Guard and that seems like a really solid and balanced force.

>>54266739
Again, xenos' and heretics' fault. Kinda hard to fix your Empire when literally every moment is a battle for survival.

>>54266757
What, you mean to say a school isn't a fascist institution ?!

:^)

>>54266775
that doesn't change the fact that it's a shitty place to live

>>54266759

Anywhere from 800 to 1500, depending on what are you using the troops for (conscript / troops / veterans) and their weapon loadouts

++ Patrol Detachment (Orks) [57 PL, 998pts] ++

+ HQ +

Warboss [4 PL, 84pts]: Attack Squig, Kustom Shoota, Power Klaw

Weirdboy [4 PL, 62pts]

+ Troops +

Boyz [13 PL, 205pts]
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga
. 29x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

+ Elites +

Burna Boyz [5 PL, 70pts]: 5x Burna Boy

Nobz on Bike [19 PL, 319pts]
. Boss Nob on Bike: Power Klaw, Slugga
. Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga
. Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga
. Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga
. Nob: Big Choppa, Slugga

Tankbustas [7 PL, 170pts]
. 10x Tankbusta: 10x Rokkit Launcha

+ Dedicated Transport +

Trukk [5 PL, 88pts]: Rokkit Launcha

++ Total: [57 PL, 998pts] ++


My first tournament is Sunday, any thoughts? I have accumulated a lot of Ork stuff so I could make some changes, the one thing I can't really do is more boyz,I've been lazy and have been using fantasy boyz as my second big mob and which don't have legal basss.

>>54266349
Something about a uniform guard paint scheme on parade makes me feel right inside. Am I a deviant?

>>54266736
bu-bu-but authoritarian mean facism i know it because carlitos marx (an student in my university that gave me a pamphlet) told me that.

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>>54266775
>muh ebil xenos and edgy highschoolers
Just join the non-retarded empire. Their flashlights actually do keep the dark at bay.

>>54266796
That's alot less than I assumed, wow.
800 of my DG is like 5 things

>>54266775
Yeah. The people arguing in favor of Xenos forget that while the imperium is bigoted, Xenos actually are racist, conniving monsters willing to betray or outright slaughter you at every turn

>>54266821
>Just join the non-retarded empire
>doesn't understand the threat chaos poses
>non retarded

>>54266753
I am pretty sure they were super robots with giant beam chainswords.

>>54266821
But i want my penis working