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Frame Arms Group Build

This time the idea is to build any Frame Arms, or Frame Arms Girl kit, and paint and customize it.

The rules are overall pretty simple, the base must be recognizable as FA or FA Girl, other than that there's no limit on what you can do.

Due Date: September 1st

Note: This is a prize build, there will be a prize provided by me, there will also be a mystery prize provided by another anon. That means that to enter, I need WIP pictures submitted before the due date. Simply email me some pictures of you working on it, I don't care at what point, as long as it's possible to tell where your final product came from.

Prize Pack:
MSG Free Style Bazooka
MSG Impact Knuckle
MSG Beast Sword
MSG Assault Rifle #2
Miscellaneous supplies

I'm probably going to add more, but I'll let those be a secret.

Email: [email protected]

I'm also available via IRC and Steam.

I'm really struggling to get this acrylic to not leave brush strokes. I'm using some stuff I was given by a friend to try, he does a lot of art and I just asked for some acrylics and bought a cheap ball twin set to try it out on.

Any tips for how thin I should try to get it? Too thin and it runs off, too thick and it leaves brush marks.

>>6411278
Thin the paint until it is self leveling.

When using thinned paint, load less of it onto the brush. Try dipping only the tip into the paint and let it pick up the paint through capillary action.

If it beads up, it means the surface is the problem. Use a rougher primer or coarser grit sandpaper

>>6411239
It's kinda funny that the HGUC Efreet Schneid is getting proper color separation for its kunai, whereas the RE/100 just got big fuckin solid purple ones.

>>6411298
Alright, is there any rules of thumb to tell when painting if it is going to level itself? I've painted some plastic forks my brother had left over from something, and it seemed dramatic when I first did it but slightly less after it had dried some. Also if there are minor imperfections, is there a grit range I can use to touch it up that won't completely shred the paint? From experience I think that topcoat would hide minor sanding.

>>6411300
That's because the HGUC is general release. It really does make a huge difference in how much effort Bandai is willing to put into it.

See: HGUC Gundiver.

>>6411309
Wait, what was wrong with Gundiver? It looked pretty high-effort to me.

>>6411307
The usual saying is to thin to the consistency of milk. There isn't a fixed formula since the consistency between brands AND colors are different. Just test on the runner to be sure.

I recommend 1500+ grit sandpaper, but you need to be gentle still. If it's raw plastic or stronger paint underneath(e.g. Lacquer) use a cotton bud moist with 90% alcohol

>>6411357
Thanks. I'm going to retry tonight.

>>6411315
It requires a ton of paint apps, since they don't provide enough stickers to cover it all. I don't blame them since the Gundiver has so many small bits of color as is, but painting is mandatory on that kit.

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Since people seem to ask about this a lot, here's a quick size comparison between the MG 3.0 and the Origin's heads. An older MG and a newer MG's heads are provided too for comparison.

Despite all the shit it gets, the Origin's head is very close in size to the 3.0's. The differences are primarily in the proportions, with the sorta squished feeling of the Origin's head making it look smaller than it really is. Throw in the bulkier torso and you get the infamous pinhead look.

Comparing it to the MG X though, you can see how much bigger the Origin's head is than what you usually see these days.

(I really hope my phone doesn't flip this image.)

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>>6411498
Actually a frontal shot doesn't really make the Origin head look bigger than the X's. Here's a different perspective.

>>6411370
Actually I feel like they put in a lot of effort into the GD.

Orange on the backpack is a seperate piece and the color separation made it not as much of a sticker nightmare as expected.

>>6411498
Do you have any smaller old MGs? The Turn A is way taller than the RX-78-2, so proportionately speaking it should dwarf the RX-78-2's head anyways.

I've always been kinda curious just how much heads have shrunk over the years.

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>>6411570
Luckily I actually do. Here's the MG GP-03's head, which ought to be about the same height as the RX-78-2.

Heads haven't exactly shrunken that much as much as they've gotten... sharper detailed, I guess? When I compare the heads of my 1/100 HGs abd my MGs I always feel like it's more thst somebody made a more precise mold than somebody compressing the design.

>>6411579
It's the proportions that have changed. You can see in that image that old MGs had fuck huge V-fins and large eyes/faceplates. Over time they started scaling those down, leading to the current almost barely noticeable heads.

Though BEECRAFT certainly seems to like his fuckhuge V-fins too.

What was the biggest problem with you guys' first kits? I don't mean issues with the kit itself, like poor articulation, I mean things like messing up the paint or messy panel lining

>>6411779
Shitty nub cleaning.

A good sized box came in the mail today, what can it be? Was it the MG Rezel GR with the action base? The Gundiver? Nope it was just the Action base. That is some cosmic level of trolling there.

>>6411805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGL3zr3xDHU&index=2

>>6411579
Man, the GP-03 looks really soft, like all the right edges look like they've been rounded.

Going to be doing my first battle damage stuff soon, not sure how to go about it. I plan on using a sodering iron to look like parts of it have been hit by a beam saber, maybe sticking little wires in certain areas where limbs have been sliced off, etc.

What else should I use? And should I bother topcoating before I start weathering it?

Also, if I want to make a block of road for a diorama, what's the best way to go about that?

Going to be doing my first battle damage stuff soon, not sure how to go about it. I plan on using a sodering iron to look like parts of it have been hit by a beam saber, maybe sticking little wires in certain areas where limbs have been sliced off, etc.

What else should I use? And should I bother topcoating before I start weathering it?

Also, I want to make a diorama with this project. I want to make a big chunk of road, maybe with sidewalks on the side. Any suggestions on how to go about making one?

>>6411498
It looks like the biggest difference is how much they shrunk the forehead camera. Is that accurate to the Origin lineart? It seens way too small.

shit, I just realized I ordered bottles of enamel paint instead of acrylic. I don't really know anything about enamel paints, they okay to handbrush with?

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WIP of Chernobyl's Kraz-256, 1/43. Heavy conversion based on toy car.

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Resin engine and scratchbuilded cabin.

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Closer look, unfinished cabin

>>6412240
>>6412243
>>6412248

That's going to make a damn cool Gundam when it's done. Which kit did you base it off of?

>>6412248
cant help but see the star wars walker thing

So many gouges and stress marks on the Architect frame, god damn. Sanding is only gonna help so much with these.

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What in the actual flying fuck
https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1052066053&ref=dos
https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1053971957&ref=list

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The MS Lens parts make really good mono eyes.

Also, Dom is sexc.

>>6412062
Yeah, just have to thin them enough, same as any paint.

>>6412626
Man that lens looks like an Eyecon.

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What's the best mono eye articulated 1/144 kit?
or anyone has links to guides that deal with mono eye articulation?

I'm looking to imitate something like pic related(a mono eye that can go really high up and to the sides).

>>6412687
That would be the Zock and the Acguy.

>>6412607
Maybe they are vintage kits. Though why anybody would pay over $400 for a kit still in production is a mystery to me.

>>6412607
You're gonna love it when you start looking for vintage Zoids kits.

>>6412726
Gundam is a 'muh special edition' box.

Hope this is fine here but i was looking into buying a gunpla figure to put together for fun and i really liked this guy

Bandai HG Orphans Gundam Gusion 1:144 Scale Model Kit

i was told the Bandai Hobby HGUC RX-78-2 Gundam Revive Model Kit, 1/144 Scale would be a better start tho.

do you guys think the top one would be ok for a novice

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>>6411268
I dont know where else this would go, so ill put the question here.

I'm gonna be ordering and building/painting one of these gurren lagann garage kits for the first time. I'm going to be really careful, but its my first time painting anything like this. if i fuck up, is there a way to get the paint of and start over?

>>6412768
read the guide, but yes its perfectly fine, most any modern HG will work for a beginner and the IBO ones are particularly good (and cheap), so go with what you like the look of better, just know gusion is a big guy so it won't be as poseable as the Revive RX-78

>>6412779
i read through a lil and both seemed to fit criteria and i just wanted to make sure there was no hidden hoops i might have to jump through

>>6412770
That's a cute Solvernia. And it really depends on what kind of paint you're using, but generally yes.

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Where is this thing from?

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Anon from >>6409390 in the last thread here.

All the scans are ready to upload. What filehosting site should upload the zip to? Its been a while & I have no idea which free filehosting sites are decent now.

>>6412788
One of the Build Fighters spinoff manga iirc. Maybe it'll make an appearance in the upcoming GM's Counterattack OVA.

>>6412795
You'd think if it did it would get a regular release instead of a P-bandai one. Cause a good portion of that thing looks brand new instead of being a lightly modified Hambrabi.

At least Dualla has a kit for one of his suits now though.

>>6411806
I imagine for stuff like that, it's when it's sold in stores so that someone can't just pocket it and walk away without anyone noticing?
If you buy online I imagine you'll get the smaller packet.

>>6412791
I imagine just MEGA will be fine?

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>>6411884
>>6411889
Stop. Stop stop stop. These sound like newbie mistakes.

1) Realize that real-life weathering and battle damage is more subtle than you think. LESS IS MORE, 99% of people trying weathering go waaaay overboard.

2) WEATHERED =/= DIRTY. Go watch some tank/plane modeling tutorials and copy those techniques. Those guys have weathering down to a science.

3) For the love of god please don't start jamming a soldering iron in. Don't go in willy-nilly thinking you know what you're doing. You'll end up with some shitty ass shit like in this pic.

Contrary to what most people think, weathering and battle damage is a precise science, not beating your kit up and rolling it in the dirt. If you want a good result, do research on real world weathering, do some learning from other modelers on YouTube, and then go at it carefully.

>>6412626
This is kinda cool but it also makes the Dom look like it's perpetually surprised/alarmed.

>>6412791

O.K here it is. 9.9mb zip.

https://mega.nz/#!ZDIwxSbQ!oRCXUDQncGG2gg5nkDP05Gq8WOJHaIGIYhcDECihww8

contains line art for the following kits:

Inner Frame
Baselard
Durga
Gourai
Greifen
Hresvelgr
Kagutsuji Kou
Khanjar
Kobold
Magatsuki
Rapier
Revanant Eye
Ryurai Kai
Strauss
Stylet
Weisheit Theta
Zenrai

>>6412851
gods work anon

>>6412770
I find that restarting takes a lot of motivation and dedication, I tend to just let projects linger when something goes wrong. I'd honestly recommend practicing on something you care about less before moving on to paint those garage kits.
Regardless, be sure to post your impressions when you get them. I've been thinking of getting at least that one as well.

>>6412770
>Newbie building a garage kit.

Before even worrying about painting go and look up how to work with resin kits. And get a proper respirator.

>>6412770
I'd practice on some cheap kits first.

>>6412851
You're a good man, Anon.

>>6412934
Dimension driver kits are pretty much plug and play toys. Well, a little glue needed. But nothing like a G-System kit or anything

Anyone feel like posting mail lists?
What you got coming?

>HG Graze Ein
>HG Char's Zaku 1
>HG Transient Gundam
>HG Gundam Portent
>HG Ghirarga
>HG Farsia
>HG Adele
>HG G-Exes
>HG Mack Knife
>HG Zaku 1 Denim/Slender
>HG Barbatos Lupus
>HG Gafran
>Petit'GGuy Fumina
>Petit'GGuy Gyanko
>MG RX-78 THE ORIGIN
>MG Gundam Turn A
>MG Tallgeese EW
>MG Z'Gok
>MG RGM-79 GM Sniper
>Kotobukiya EVA-01
>Kotobukiya EVA-02
>Kotobukiya EVA Mass Production
>1/12 Honda Ape 50
>MS Option Set 5
>Soul Effect Impact Beige
>Tamashii Effect - Blue Wave
>Eye Green Gundam Marker
>Mr. Nipper GX Single Edge

Pre-orders
>HG Astaroth Rinascemento
>RG Unicorn
>M.S.G. Overed Manipulator (x2)

>>6413000
>HG Gundiver
>HG Gouf Tactical Demonstrator
>HG Bugu
>MG ReZel Type C (GR) A/B Defenser
>MG GM Sniper II White DIngo.
>MG Zaku II
>MG Delta Plus
>MG Zeta Plus C1
>MG Zeta 2.0
> MG Freedom
>MG Providence
>MG Justice

>>6412934
good to know about the respirator, had no idea, ill look at the guide

>>6412978
wait, so for these particular kits, should i use a respirator or no?

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A little warm up before the group build.

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>>6413137
Basically OOB with guns added.

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>>6413142

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>>6413146
2B || !2B

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>>6413149
For the Emperor

>>6413119
If it looks like you need to do cutting and sanding yes.

>>6413151
>DO NOT TOUCH
that's just an invitation now

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>>6413151
OOB WIPs are boring so I didn't take any.
Have this instead.

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>>6413157
WIPs of what wasn't OOB.

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>>6413159
And that's it.

Also posted at https://imgur.com/a/N5GKq

is airbrush or spraycan literally the only way to go when painting kits? can you get a good finished product with brushes?

>>6413157
why dissolved plastic tho rather than putty

>>6413250
Yes, but it will take longer and you have to actually know what you're doing.

>>6413259
Because anon isn't painting and by using plastic it matches the color of the surrounding plastic. It will also hold up stronger than putty which is important with this type of mod.

This may sound weird, but does anyone else put on adam savage's one day builds for background noise? its fucking relaxing

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scratch built combat knerf

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>>6413382
To add to this, I had to melt bits of the exact runner each part came from or it wouldn't match perfectly.

Apparently Koto has more than 1 kind of "pure white" and they used them all in one kit.

>>6413431
What did you use for the pin?

>>6413502
Random aluminum wire that happened to be the right thickness.

>>6413000
HG Arios Gundam
HG Seraphim (x2)

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Finally done, not 100% accurate or perfect, but I'm happy with it

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>>6413000
Mail
>CuteCube Woundwort

Preorders
>HG GM/GM
>RG Unicorn (Unicon Mode Boxart)
>RG Mk-II (Amuro)
>M.S.G. Weapon Unit 42: Folding Arm

Private Warehouse
>HG Z'gok
>RG Zeta
>Wave Parts Opener

>>6413000
Mail
>HG Banshee Norn Destroy Mode
>SD Knight Unicorn
>RG Wing Zero EW

Preorder
>RG Unicorn

Also, got recently but not yet built
>HG Shia Qan[T]
>HG RX-78-2 Gundam (Revive)

Have I understood things correctly if I say that you can paint ABS inner frames using lacquer primer as long as you make sure to mist it on rather than putting it on wet?

It feels like at least 50% of modern MG:s use ABS for the inner frames, so I hope that is the case.

>>6412845
Pic related doesn't actually look too bad to me...but then again I'm a newbie.

>painting eye piece
>drop it
>logically it must be somewhere in the room where I dropped it
>no, it completely dropped off the face of the earth
Any place where I can get parts like that or am I being another entire gunpla?

>>6413753
>being
*buying

>>6413753
Pantyhose or similar material over a vacuum cleaner hose will find it.

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Well time to get building. Wish they shipped it better than a thin paper wrap, least parts inside are fine

>>6413757
Guessing that's a no.

>>6413829
Yeah replacement parts are a pain in the ass. I think someone started back up but I'm not completely sure.

>>6413000
>Mail:
LBX Hyper Function Achilles
LBX Hyper Function AX-00 (clear ver.)
LBX Deqoo
HG Gundam Seraphim

>Need to Build:
HG Crossbone Gundam Maoh

Was going to get a MG Z'gok but the seller cancelled the order as it wasn't in stock. I can always get it later, right?

Are there any chisels that are readily available to the US that aren't priced to rape your butthole like BMC?

>>6414105
xacto and maybe other knife brands have chisel blades for their handles.

>>6414105
taobao

>>6413161
what's you panel line with, looks like some kind of pen

>>6414169
fugggg

>>6413000
Mecha Collection Ultra Hawk 1's Alpha, Beta, and Gamma on preorder and Dynamic Chainsaw in delivery.
Should have remembered to add in the HGUC Z'Gok back in the sale, I needs it for a thing :/

>>6413157
Where'd you get that tiny little saw tip?

>>6414172
A combination of Real Touch marker and Mr Weathering wash.

>>6414238
https://hlj.com/product/TAM74094

>>6414238
>>6414242
Correction: https://hlj.com/product/TAM74097

>>6413516

anon, I love it too.
well done, hope you feel proud of it.

>>6413157
looks pretty awesome even with the wire exposed, reminds me of shinkis

>>6413157
What did you use to seam weld?

Currently building the HG Jegan and holy shit, what dark magic did Bandai use for the mint green plastic formula? Even using a dull Exacto blade trimming the nubs feels like using a hot knife to cut butter, and without any extra effort the nubmarks are practically invisible.

>>6414406
Huh, well that makes me want to build my Jegan now

Anons I need some help. I've posted this on different boards and other places, but I'd like advice from as many experienced people as possible:

I'm having a hard time applying a good gloss coat. My gloss coats always have orange peel and when I'm airbrushing them it doesn't come out as smooth as anything else I airbrush (even the matt coats or other paints). It looks to me as if the droplets are too big.

I have this issue both with Future and with the Vallejo gloss varnish. I normally almost never end with a gloss coat (I prefer matt colors), but since the surface isn't smooth after one of my gloss coats I'm worried about applying decals on it. I'd very much like to get better at this.

I brush at around 15-18 PSI with the Vallejo varnish thinned at around 50/50 ratio (Future I didn't thin since that stuff is already watery).
Does aynone have any ideas on how I can improve?

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Came in today.

Any of you guys have it?

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>>6414539
I forgot to include a picture of what it looks like.

Also I'm getting a lot of contradicting advise, so that is why I'm asking around some more.

>>6412851
thanks anon

you are my friend

>>6414544
have you tried cleaning your airbrush thoroughly? looks a bit like splatter to me.

otherwise try lower pressure and wetter coats

>>6414540

I would only have it so I could chuck it at people.

>>6414539
You might want to consider thinning Future. Not very much (I usually only use a few drops of Windex or whatever), but enough to discourage it from pooling into beads. Also, in my experience, less is more: you want to barely mist it on at like 12 PSI.

That's what I do for the usual protective layer of gloss coat. If you want an actual shine, then just be patient about it and build up steady layers. If you don't have the time, then give up on Future and buy some actual gloss coat.

>>6414570
Yeah I clean it regularly and thoroughly
>>6414598
I'll try thinning future again, but I've long since switched to Vallejo gloss coat anyway (I just prefer an actual model coating product). So I haven't really used future in a year or so. Sadly I'm having the same issue with the Vallejo gloss coat (and that is an actual model varnish).

I'll try both Future and Vallejo again and I'll thin them a lot more, then do some misty coats.

>>6414604
Future's already really thin, so don't thin it too much.

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spooky blue skin

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>>6413411
Really nice combat knife comes with Gundam Astaroth, curently using it with my GM Sniper.

>>6414540
Tell us how it is once it's built, I'm considering it.

>>6414611
Ghastly

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let's dance!

>>6414611
It reminds me of a khezu
I am both disgusted and mad

>>6414738
Tags: Vore, Suffocation, Beastiality, Tentacles

>>6412788

I fucking love how 1000% nagano they went with this one

Why doesn't Bandai include waterslides for every kit instead of stickers, at least for MGs and RGs? Or why won't they release waterslide sheets for more kits? I hate stickers with a fiery passion

>>6414897
Because the majority of Bandai's market are snap fitters who don't know how to use waterslides. Also bandai's waterslides have been shit quality recently.

>>6414731

Do the monkey with me, C'mon!

>>6414918
>Because the majority of Bandai's market are snap fitters who don't know how to use waterslides.
>don't know how to use waterslides
Then how do they figure out how to use the stickers? Or breathe for that matter? I'm a snapshitter myself but slides are so ridiculously basic.

>>6413955
Yo where'd you find the LBXs at? I have a hell of a time finding them without paying and arm and a leg

>>6414897
They have to be sealed or they'll peel quickly and they're slightly more expensive to produce. Stickers actually aren't that bad in terms of adhesive.

>>6414897
Stickers are cheaper to produce.

>>6414897
I rather have dry transfer.

>>6415080
>>6415151
Waterslide sheets cost like 400 yen. Adding those 400 yen to the price of a kit wouldn't really change anything.
>>6415155
Dry transfer's alright too, though in my experience they are more prone to silvering

>>6415176
Yea it would. Gunpla is very price sensitive. It's a very low cost hobby that can scale up because of the surrounding industries

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will they ever learn?

>>6415176
When you're making kits in the literal thousands, you take whatever price cut you can make.

>>6414105
Samueldecal sells a couple sets I think.

Also, these LED swords are pretty nice.

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>>6415326
wow, I'm dumb.

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Built it, model is too damn good to be a p bandai, Almost seems like this was designed first and set to be retail until last minute decision to make the local type retail instead.

Going to be buying my first Tamiya stuff soon. I'm tempted to just get an airbrush though, since paint cans seem like they'll add up. How many kits do cans usually last through?

>>6415031
Check mandarake mostly, Amazon has a few for decent prices.

I assume you're familiar with Sprukits? You can find many of the sprukits ones for fairly cheap.

Do you use the color wheel when deciding on color schemes or just go with whatever you think looks cool?

I am at least a fan of combinations like blue and orange, purple and yellow, and I believe they are complimentary colors.

>>6415393
Pretty sure Blue and Orange are. That's also the color scheme of the Blue Astray.

>>6415393

I think the most important thing is where you use them, there are 10 million different color combos from actual gundam designs to try out, so you don't need to overthink that part. Almost any scheme has been used by a real design at some point, it's hard to go wrong there. Much easier to make a particular kit look bad by putting too much of one color vs. another etc.

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>>6415401

I seem to have a preference towards not using too many colors on a kit, the standard gundam colors of white, yellow, red and blue is at least one color too many for my taste.

>>6415397

Yeah I was thinking of using something similar for my blitz, though the astray has a really pale orange so I'm probably going to use a more vibrant orange as well as a darker blue in order to make it a little different.

>>6415410

you're spreading things out too much to try and make things "balanced" or something

most gundams arent done that way for a reason, blocks of color and accents are the way to go

>>6415418

I basically copied the default blitz layout except I didn't have a different color for the v fin and claw.

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>>6415418

Should probably have posted an image as well, I just changed black to white, red to blue and light bluegrey and the yellow to orange. How would you have done it?

>>6414544
What's your technique with spraying? Distance, how far you pull the trigger, etc. I can only think it's something in the technique other than psi.

>>6415410
Just me but i think if you swapped the chin to be orange and the face of the gundam to be dark blue that might look a little bit better?

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>>6415441

Done, how about it? I also changed the lines under the eyes to the opposite since the color separation would be lost otherwise.

>>6415427

I think this is a contrast issue, where the colors of the default blitz are closer together, so it blends together a bit more. Try switching the orange and blue and giving him a white face

>>6415450

I'm not sure if it helps much, and I did prefer the orange v-fin. I wonder if making one color out of the orange and blue more dominant would help or not.
I really do want to keep white as the main color though.

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>>6415461

And I forgot the image, of course.

>>6415461

I agree I liked the orange v-fin more, you can change that to whatever you like, that's the fun of it. Sometimes just trying lots of ideas helps.

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>>6415450
>>6415461
>>6415465

I took a stab at it

>>6413659
Let this be your lesson then, it most definitely does look bad and people will make fun of you if you do it.

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>>6415493

If I didn't have to go to sleep I could probably spend all night on messing with it, this is what I'm considering at the moment. Obviously, I will change it another ten times tomorrow...

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Is there anything that I can use to make something like this that is in scale with 1/100 gendems?
The side blades on the hilt are supposed to rotate and fill the lower part of the blade. If it has gears that would be cool.

>>6415393
Not just that, but also stuff like temperature and tone. I'm also of the belief that there's a correlation between shapes and colors, as in why some designs look good in on scheme but horrid in another, even if the colors should go together

>>6414918
Really? They've been fine on my Ultraman Mecha Collection kits
>>6415080
Agreed. Bandai does a damn good job at making sure their stickers fit on anything.

>>6415446
That's not bad. Bear in mind, the parts you have orange around the knee are exposed frame material, perhaps if you moved the orange to the indents at the top of the kneecaps or to that "ring" at the bottom of each thigh.

>>6415645
Scratchbuild? Maybe one of the Koto MSG Weapons?

>>6414918

>bandai's waterslides have been shit quality recently.

citation fucking needed

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Where can i find polycaps like this? I bought some LBX kit semi-built and i'm missing these ball-shaped polycaps.

>>6415817

the SD kits are full of them, especially the BB senshi line

Recommend me some good 1/144 HG kits

>>6415834
I'd suggest one of the origin kits

>>6415834
Origin, Revive, or Iron Blooded Orphans lines. Most of them are great.

>>6415834

anything made after 2005 basically

>>6415834
Gundam Tristan

>>6415795
this makes a lot of sense, like how pointy triangular bots always seem to be purple or yellow

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>>6415805
>Maybe one of the Koto MSG Weapons
Oh yeah. Damn, I'm dumb.

Anyone with the Ortega Zaku II, I want to switch the head with a custom one. What is the width of the neck's male balljoint?

>>6414897
because Bandai has designed its products in such a way that it could be someone's first kit, not just first GunPla, but any kit for that matter.

It's also the same reason Kawaguchi gave recently for why Bandai doesn't do undergates. Because Undergates are rare and not the norm for model kits outside of this niche.

>>6416017
That's a really shitty reason to make us all deal with bad nubs. Undergates are pretty self explanatory.

>>6416017
>We decided to make things harder by not undergating because your first kit should be annoying and close to the norm but used the opposite logic for using stickers over waterslides.
Just tell us you don't want to pay for it, you fucks.

>>6416049
It's not like it'd cost anything more to produce, they just have to say "Hey engineer-san, when you design how the parts are attached to runners put the gates on the undersides"

>>6416051
Design cost is the only semi-valid reason I can think of for them not doing exactly that. I don't know how difficult or expensive the engineering is (though I'd imagine not very but that's me talking out of my ass) the excuse posted here is pretty high order bullshit.

>>6416057
Well I imagine first the parts are designed, and then they have someone design runners containing them. And while it's more complicated than just pasting the parts on to a frame willy nilly - you have to make sure the plastic fills adequately and evenly - making sure all those parts are connected at places that won't be visible is maybe like 5% more trouble. Once in the production phase the extra cost is nothing.

>>6415436
Tried both close to the piece with fine spray and a wet coat and tried far away from the piece with both a fine mist and a wet coat.

>>6416051
It absolutely does, but not at the phase you're thinking of. Undergating things makes the QC portion much more of a pain in the ass because shit is much more liable to go wrong when you start making all of the gates bend at weird angles to avoid showing up.

A lot of people don't seem to fully realize this, but Bandai mass produces the ever loving fuck out of their kits. Any cost on the design phase is eclipsed by whatever costs there are on the production phase. That's why it's so important to minimize any sort of risk whatsoever.

>>6415817
>>6415819
Make sure the runner says PC-7 and not PC-123. 123 sizes are a little smaller than 7's.

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Man this kit is an absolute mess. I'm excited to get to flex my hustle bones on this thing.

Can't wait for the wave of non customizers to slam this thing since it's a pretty bad straight build.

>>6416185
With third party kits, I just wish they wouldn't even bother with inner frames. It's not like there's ever that much done with them, and if the parts fitting and color separation are going to be awful anyways I'd rather just have less pieces overall to work with.

>>6416189
I couldn't disagree more. Frames are important for making a kit not feel like a cheap hollow toy in your hands. Even if it's still light plastic, you can at least feel that it's something solid.

>>6416191
RE/100s feel perfectly fine if you ask me.

>>6415381
depends on the kits and how much of the kits you are spraying, as well as how efficient you are in the spraying. But look at one full HG kit getting maximum base coat coverage from a can of Tamiya. Their primer on the other hand is much better for price and models you can cover with it.

I personally am waiting on a second can to finish up my Berserk Fuhrer, but that is a lot of coverage compared to a gunpla. I got the body, arms completely done and the tail has a incomplete coverage, needs just one more layer. Legs however are untouched.

>>6416192
Naw you can feel that they're not as solid as MGs, especially in the joints being polycaps. Weight distribution is also kinda funky, like in the Bawoo

>>6416415

bawoo has always had weird weight distribution because of the design

>>6416191

> Frames are important for making a kit not feel like a cheap hollow toy in your hands.

Models typically are very light. Toys exclusively need to be chunkier like that.

>>6416420
I'm not talking about the weight, but the feeling that something is hollow. You can just tell when you're handling something. It's hard to describe verbally but you know what I mean.

>>6416313

What colors did you go with? I have it in my backlog but I haven't decided on any colors.

>>6416191
The frame is very unnecessary on the woundwort dude. There's unnecessary levels of parts separation on this similar to kotobukiya zoids, but it's worse. The cockpit sear for instance isn't tabbed onto anything, and the collar is held on only by friction.

>>6416475
With third party kits you have to give up on assuming an OOB build will go well. Break out the glue and get ready to reshape some pieces.

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>$51.78 shipped

Did I do good?

My 71$ PG Unicorn will be here tomorrow, and the 19$ led kit from China sometime in the next 2 weeks.

Prime day rocked.

>>6416656
>prime day
What the fuck? I remember searching for gundam 3 times and got nothing all 3.

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>>6416659

When prime day first started everything was dumb cheap.

>>6416664
Well that's annoying because I searched before hand and the only thing that came up was cowboy bebop's bluray.

>>6416659
Amazon fucked up and everything was glitchy as fuck at the start of primeday. A bunch of stuff was massively or wrongly discounted at the start (they fixed it). Go look in the prime day thread.

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Trying to start on my first painted kit. Is this good? I was thinking of that grey for the main body and olive drab for the chest and shield. If it ends up alright, I'll re-use that scheme for a MG GM Sniper II. Any suggestions?

>>6416659
Same, I chalked it up to Prime Day having no deals on gunpla and moved on. Now there were discounts? Fuck.

>>6415986
Also, is there any balljoint in the Ballden Arm Arms kit compatible with it?

>>6416439
I am being VERY goofy and went with coral blue thinking of a vintage 50s turquoise color. I probably should have looked into figuring out how to paint the inner 'frame' chrome or something like that. Or maybe its just all the black being exposed from being half complete making things look weird.

Or it could be like another anon up thread mentioned and he is just completely the wrong shape for that color. But I decided to color his armor because I plan on only buying the upcoming Sturm Tyrann armor pack (if they sell just the armor separately like they did with Liger Zero), so I pretty much needed to choose a spray can since I don't airbrush.

Does white plastic like Super Fumina Angel Axis ver. suffer from gold plastic syndrome? Heck do any of the Gundam kits suffer from it?

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have a picture of your first ever kit?
post it.

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Is this gonna fuck my Gundam marker's shit up?

>>6417034
It can make the very thin panel linery ones bleed a bit.

>>6417038
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. How do I topcoat a kit that I've panel lined?

>>6417034
>>6417042
it has less effect on the panel lines from my experience then that anon implies. Or at least from what you are thinking he is implying, it really is just a 'bit', itty bitty. Heavier thicker lines will get splotchy and bleed a more noticeable amount, but typical thin lines should be fine unless you are closely investigating them. but again that is my experience and maybe someone had worse experience.

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>>6417022


awww yeah plated kit with terrible nub marker touchup

this was sometime in the 00s

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>>6417022
I accidentally got the RG version even after I was specifically telling myself to get the HG. I was so excited to build it though, probably the fastest RG build I've ever done

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>>6417022

>>6417022
all that's left of my HG wing gundam is the backpack and I found one of the yellow chest vent pieces behind a desk while looking for a dropped forehead jewel
The rest of it is scattered to the winds following me giving up on trying to fix all the mistakes I made when I realized that I gouged pretty much every single gate.
Mission complete I guess

>>6417042

acrylic topcoats work fine over gundam marker. Lacquer topcoats will eat panel lines done with gundam marker.

Your problem is you are using gundam markers which are complete shit if you want to paint or topcoat. Go invest in some copic modeller pens for panel lining, they can be topcoated with anything.

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>>6417022
Yes actually.
Got a reprint sitting in my backlog to do the kit right sometime later.

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>>6417573
... holy shit that is a shit photo.

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>>6417022
first kit eh

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>>6417573
>>6417577
REDEMPTION!

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>>6417022

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>>6417022

>>6417573
>>6417651
I want to go back in time and give your past self a nice big bottle of thinner because jesus fuck

>>6417531
This makes me think... I use a rotring for panel lining, but never topcoated, what kind of topcoat should I be using?

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I hate when I gotta do these kind of stickers but I'm too lazy to paint, do you understand my problem?

>>6415351
Where did you buy it?

>>6417657
Don't just do that! Tell me what to do with it! Show me how!
Before Gundam my exposure to model kits would be the annual aircraft (usually Snap-Fit) and for the rare few that were actual kits (and for many a long Gundam year after those) I saw the thinner bottle as nothing but a brush cleaner.
Hell, my first airbrush I used unthinned Testor's enamel! I had no fucking idea what I was doing beyond making them look better than bare plastic & stickers!

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half of my big order is in!

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>Months of delays.
>QC issue caused further delay.
>Sam finally gets his corrected stock and ships out.
>Woundwort arrives in NY shipping center.
>Oh good, I should be getting it in a day or two (I live in MD).
>Check tracking today.
>They sent it north to CT, which is going to add a day or two.

Why.

>>6417980
>North

I meant East*

>>6417955
>Portent
>Gafran

>>6417955
That's quite a lot of Gundams.

I have only 4 right now to build.

>>6417694
Most people who paint do so more often than not painting, it simply looks way better.

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>tfw backlog is empty and you've finished all of your projects but your latest order is two weeks out

>>6417955
>Half of one order for him is more than I build in a year
Well I feel smalltime now.

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>>6417980
Was his restock due to a defective part? Ive read about this only after ordering my own from ebay but i dont know the exact details, any idea what the issue woth the kit was?

The listing didnt mention it, hopefully its the ammended kit too but if not i guess ill have to fix it myself.

Hope yours reaches you soon!

>>6418185
want that Kehaar II now...

>>6418002
I like the kinda biomechanical look of the AGE suits, got a couple more coming.
And what's wrong with Portent ;;

>>6418017
You should see my backlog. I've got another 40 or so in addition to this. My bank loves me.

>>6418129
I tend to splurge out and do mass purchases during sale season, instead of gradual buys over the course of the year.
Apart from preorders.

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>>6418185
This (on the right) was the defective part. Apart from that it's an unofficial third party kit, so just don't go into the build expecting Bandai or Koto levels of quality and you'll be fine.

>>6418289
Thanks for the picture and description man, very helpfull. A bit of styrene rod and epoxy putty should sort that out. Part of the fun of a 3rd party kit for me is the extra work you have to put in. Still thats a pretty big oversight on cutecube's part

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>>6417022

plz no bully

>>6418484
Don't play with your kits in the fireplace

>>6418484
Looks like toasted marshmallow boy

>>6418515

It was all white and I kinda wanted to make it look less white...

>>6418484
a genoace died for this

>>6418626

you definitely did

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Something is slightly off making the ports for attachments too loose to just friction in, so everything's getting glued on. The only question is, silencer or not?

>>6418626
dats raysiss

>>6418666
Turn it into an Osprey style suppressor and you're golden.

>>6417034
10 bucks for 100ml of spray can.

This hobby will kill me

>>6418912

it gets way worse that's for sure

>>6418912
How much cheaper is the airbrush equivalent? I'm probably going to have to nut up and buy a set soon but I have nowhere good for a booth.

>see a gunpla I want on amiami
>ITEM A-/BOX B
>nearly half off
How can I tell if it's already assembled?

>>6418666


is that glue smeared all over the magazine?

>>6418983
you can't

life's a lottery

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Working on a RE/100 nightingale. Got the new shoulders molded today and am just working them to be fully blended now. I am also extending the front peak of the chest foward to exaggerate that. Dong progress is still really early.

>>6419036
for the extensions, do you just attatch some epoxy putty at the ends, shape it to what you want, and sand it when dried? looks awesome

>>6419041

First I cut them out of notecard because you have to get lots of curves right, then out of very thin styrene. THen I used 3 beams under the edge and laid the thin sheet over the top of them to give the sheet strength. Then epoxy putty over the top and bottom of that. This both gives it strength, and you know when the things are the same size when you can see the edges of the styrene peeking through when you sand down.

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>>6419036
I approve.
Nice donger too.

>>6419046
thanks for the tip, looking forward to your updates

>>6419055

No problem, I've definitely had unsupported epoxy shit fall off before so I give it structure wherever possible. Like even putting a toothpick piece inside small pieces to give them some strength.

>>6419008
Looks like glue with a nice fingerprint to deform the mag well.

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>>6419079
Regular plastic cement melts Little Armory plastic like butter.
You only need 1/4 of the cement you think you need to glue it.

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I built the Ball ver. Ka a year ago and I'm still amazed at how well it holds up. The kit's aged like fine wine.

>>6419108

protip: lighter fluid on a q-tip cleans off wet excess plastic cement perfectly without harming the plastic.

>>6419108
>Regular plastic cement melts Little Armory plastic like butter.
Shit, seriously? I just bought some Tamiya extra thin cement to glue a Little Armory kit together, and now I'm scared of fucking it up. And tips aside from using 1/4 of the cement I think I'll need?

Anons how do you paint your inner frames? Do you paint the individual pieces or do you assemble the inner frame and then paint it like that? (like completed arms/legs, etc)

>>6419380

Half assembled. Split it up based on the moving parts. No reason not to paint assembled if there are no moving parts involved.

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>>6419287
If you are going to paint parts and then assemble, mask all the pegs/holes/contact points because there are no tolerances.

[shill=on]
You can also upgrade your cement to pic related, it is much easier to glue small parts with (you can still fuck it up if you put to much)
[shill=off]

>>6418978
this is the only reason I haven't shelled out yet either. my room has only one poorly located and difficult to set up a vent window, plus I intend on getting a bearded dragon in the coming months. And the garge is out because it is a mess from my dad becoming obsessed with DiY pallet projects like he was some grown up KND 2x4 engineer.

>>6419642

The KND show was awesome though. Created anything cool or useful?

>It's here

Oh god that flash on the parts and factory death smell when you open the box. Dedinitely going to let these runners soak in the sink before building it.

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>>6419721
Forgot pic.

>>6419688
yeah actually. He has made lamps out of old parking meters and pulleys, his specialty that co-workers constantly buy are coolers and sectionals made of pallets. He also built our fire wood shed out of pallets, and got so into it he taught himself basic welding just to build a specialized pallet prying tool and branding iron.

>>6419762

That's kinda cool desu. Good for your dad. It even brings in income.

Found his gunpla it seems.

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Which one do I build first, anons?

>>6419774
Hyakuren.

>>6419774

Hugo!

>>6419765
yeah, he respects the stuff I build now more then he use to, he understands what building something with your own hands is like. He gets a bit excited when I start talking about things like making a mold of a part or sculpting a custom part.

in hindsight as I type if I ever did take the plunge into airbrushing he probably would help cleaning a chunk of the garage out, especially if he might think it means I could improve enough to make art for his projects.

>>6419721
>>6419722

post some runner pics, I want to see dat flash

>>6419846
My end project is 4 Zeta Razgriz units

>>6419888
frikking trigger hand...

But thats year away.

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Does anyone have any suggestions for which paints I should use to achieve these colours? Preferably acrylics since I'm a novice and it's easier to strip.

>>6419993

If I had to guess using Tamiya:

- Dark Yellow
- British green
- Flat red + some drops of black

Quick,

1/144 HG Over Flag or
1/100 MG Ball Ver. Ka

Suggestions go!

>>6420171
Both.

>>6420171
ball

>>6420177

Cant both. Over budget.

>>6419774
Grimoire is one of my favorite HGs, I'd suggest saving it for last.

>>6420171

Ball, 1/144 flags are known to have a bunch of issues.

>>6420171
1/144 Flag a shit.

>>6420239

>>6420274
>1/144 Flag a shit.

I giggled. Got MG ball.

>>6420276
Have fun with it anon.
Also reminder that the Ball was the first MG to get a score of 100 from Dalong, if that means anything to you.

>>6420171
if you ever buy a flag, I'll personally come to your house, build it in front of you, and then drop kick it out of the fucking window

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We've reached critical levels.

The stacks go down to the floor. I've forgotten what's down there, if I'm honest.

>>6420315

I would actually pay to see that.

>>6420321
Jeez, I wish I had this kind of money. I'm still trying to save for an airbrush.

>>6420297
What other kits got 100 i wonder.

>>6420356
If anything, wait until a big sale on HLJ or somewhere and splurge. Not too much, but enough to last you through the months.

>>6420388
http://dalong.net/review/mg/mgdata.htm
Unfortunately there's no option to sort by points.

>>6419993
Just use the color guides and then pick something close sounding in Tamiya. Assuming you can't read japanese:

>Black: Midnight Blue (100%)
>Red: Monza Red (80%) + White (10%) + Yellow (5%) + Neutral Gray (5%)
>Yellow: Yellow (45%) + White (35%) + Orange (20%)

The only tough bit is the tan, since the RX-78-2's Real Type color scheme has typically used a shade of gray instead. But the Zaku Cannon's tan looks close enough so:

>Tan: Skintone (65%) + White (30%) + Neutral Gray (5%)

>>6420512
>Green: Green (35%) + White (30%) + Black (25%) + Olive Drab (10%)

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Fuck I hate it so much
First hg

>>6420321
Throw out poonicorn trash and homer simpson gundam trash. That'll save you a bunch of room.

>>6420321
I have you beat, and that knowledge really makes me realize that I've lost control of my life. Three waist-high stacks in my room. Two giant cardboard boxes stacked full and overflowing with more kits. Plus a small stack of kits where the boxes were too big to fit into other boxes (MG The O, MG Sazabi ver.KA, some of the larger Zoids, etc.) I guess this is what happens when you keep buying kits but have no time to build any of them.

>>6420694

>first HG

lol look at the MASTER everyone

>>6420694
Why do you hate it? It doesn't look THAT bad aside from the nubs, clean those up with a hobby knife. Or shit, even like, a pocket/paring knife if you're careful (I have done both in a pinch).

Or do you hate the kit itself?

>>6420694
>IBO
no shit you hate it, everyone does. its cheap but thats it.

>>6420730
The IBO kits are kinda meh compared to the HGUCs, but they're cheap so it's hard to complain.

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Is 33 dollars a good price for the GN-X HG?

>>6420744
Hell no, $15 on Amazon.

>>6420729
bitch i never said im a master, i hate it because of how shitty i did it, dont assume next time you fairy

>>6420746
Shipping, though. I'm not on the US.

>>6420730
i just hate how sloppy i did this, and i tried painting some parts, was a mistake

>>6420747

lol my bad I assumed you only built MGs, sorry about that

>>6420748
Still available on HLJ, so unless you're forced to use EMS shipping, that should work.

>>6420760
Sure...

>>6420771
Thanks.

>>6420119
>>6420512
>>6420513
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll do some research. This is my first time painting a kit and it's been a bigger project than I thought it would be.

What's the most reasonable price/performance set of files on HLJ right now?

Finished 1/144 HGUC RX-79(G) Gundam Ground Type Last night.

Post pictures later. Reality calls.

>want to build gunpla
>trying to save up for airbrush so I can finally paint my kits
>sees GMs going for 8 a pop

please help me stay strong, lads

>>6421074


Kohai, a good airbrush is a lifetime tool.
There will always be other sales for Gunpla, be patient and stay on target.

>>6419118
I thought the same thing when I picked up my Z'Gok the other night to take a picture or two:
decently flexible, very few parts needing paint, very few seams to weld.

>>6420760
Well the pic's out of focus so we can't see how bad it is... *shrug?*

>>6421074
if you buy a chink airbrush you can have both!

>>6421088
>>6421101
I'm getting an Iwata or something.
I can technically afford it now, I've been selling shit in the BST but I want to keep saving until I have a buffer of about 2k for when I move in November. Sorry for blog posting, I'm just excited to finally start painting my kits.

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Getting back into model kits after like 15 years and I bought a Frame Arms Gourai and a Frame Arms Girl Gourai because I figure they'll look nice on display together but I've noticed that while the FAG comes with decals the FA does not.
I know you can buy decals separately for some Gundams so I was wondering if it's possible to buy some for Frame Arms too? and if not what are my options here? I'd like to make both the Frame Arms and Frame Arms Girl look as similar as possible and have the same markings

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And the worst nub placement award goes to...

If transforming isn't a big concern, which is a better kit, Lightning Zeta Gundam, or the new HG Zeta?

>>6421074
>>sees GMs going for 8 a pop
w-where

>>6421346
If I recall the Lightning Zeta is based off the old HGUC, so I'd say the new Zeta.

How do I stop primer from looking like the surface of the moon?

>>6421467

what are you using?

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>>6421490
Tamiya spray cans. Some parts come out fine, others not so much. I'm applying in light layers too.

>>6421501

that looks awful, not going to lie anon

>>6421501

how far away are you spraying and what are the air conditions

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