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Paizo Games General /pgg/

Old Salt Edition:
When was the last time you played a good, old fashioned down to earth type character?

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Old thread: >>54195189
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>>54200465
That's the type of character I always make, anon.
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Gonna roll a Shield Champion, I'm also thinking on being Mutagenic Mauler, is mutagenic mauler worth losing martial flexibility?
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>>54200465
I would if somebody actually ran a pirate/privateer game eventually.
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>>54200182
Can confirm she works for a demon slut
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>>54200493
The benefits you get from martial flexibility will probably outweigh what the mutagen will get you.
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>>54200493

If all you want is pure damage, then sure, it's totally worth it. Personally, I like dumping shitloads of debuffs on the bad guys with every hit, and spontaneously giving myself new feats really helps with that.
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>>54200534
Hey now, erinyes are devils!
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>>54200582
Adrestria is an angel!
She's just a little upset that all her useful pawns got killed
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>>54200493
Going off of this anon's question, what stats are most important for a Brawler?
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How do I make a MUDAMUDAMUDA build at level 5 with Gestalt?
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>>54200651
You don't. You can't make DIO in PF while being true to the source material so stop fucking asking.
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>>54200651
Define Mudamudamuda because it seems to mean different things for different people
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>>54200465
Is it true a class without a spell list can't use UMD to activate scrolls/wands/staves?
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>>54200618
Fair enough so long as everyone can agree she's not some filthy demon.
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>>54200677
UMD is there explicitly so that such classes can use those and other items.
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>>54200677
No. They HAVE to use UMD.
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>>54200621

STR or DEX are both viable, but you shouldn't really dump either of them. You'll want some CON so you can take a hit, and a little WIS helps to qualify for certain feats and boost your Will save.
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>>54200519
Why can't you make a good old boy in another campaign?
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>>54200651
You mean lots of attacks?
Well, Barb or Alchemist alone can make 6 attacks at full BaB at that level, you just need Ragebred Skinwalker race for Gore+2 Hooves and Barb or Alchemist for Bite+2 Claws.

Maybe add Umonk (gestalt) for 2 extra unarmed attacks for a total of 8
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>>54200699
Had a GM argue that it only applied to other magic items with race/alignment/ability-score/class feature requirements.

He ruled my Monk can't use UMD to use wands or scrolls because the class doesn't have a spell list.
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>>54200706
Any archetypes worth taking?
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>>54200757
Depends on what you're looking for.
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>>54200738
the GM needs to read what UMD does
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>>54200738
My first recomendation show him this
>You can use this skill to read a spell or to activate a magic item. Use Magic Device lets you use a magic item as if you had the spell ability or class features of another class,
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/use-magic-device/
And if you want me to bring in the heavy fire power I can show you examples of characters in Pathfinder modules that use wands in their tactics section but don't have spell lists.
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How would you roleplay a tiefling with this, capable of swallowing small animals whole and alive?
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>>54200779
I politely lean over and tell the player to stop inserting his vore fetish into the game. It's terrible. He can go do it on his own time on the internet like everyone already knows he does.
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>>54200793

Projecting much?
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>>54200465
>the /pgg/ autist is out loose again
GUARDS
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>>54200735
Unchained Monk still cannot flurry while using natural attacks, iirc
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>>54200772
He rules that activating a magic item isn't the same as using a spell completion/trigger.

>>54200774
Another player tried to mention the NPC codex where a Barbarian and a Fighter did the same thing. But by that point he brushed it all off to keep the game moving. (We all acknowledged beforehand we were on a time limit to be fair.)
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>>54200827
He's retarded
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>>54200757

Shield Champion is actually pretty solid-gives you a good ranged option and helps you get some good offensive and defensive bonuses with shields. Mutagenic Mauler is good if you just want to hit like a truck, but costs you flexibility, so it may or may not be worth it. Winding Path Renegade has some handy tricks worth looking over, maybe pair it up with another archetype.
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>>54200827
Good thing UMD does fucking both, then.
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>>54200826
Normal monk then?
If not be fighter gestalt and grab TWF
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I almost....almost want to make an Asura expy for King's Gambit, just to intorduce a dark warlord type with Shattered Mirror, Golden Lion, and Solar Wind manuvers.
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Did you PM THEM yet?
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>>54200938
No because I don't have autism.
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>>54200938
>Immortal telling about people how to live their lives
Fuck off
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>>54200779
Ungermaw
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>>54200827
Spell completion and trigger are methods of activation. That's like saying you can't start a car by turning the key.
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>>54201009
UNGERMAW
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>>54201028
>>54201009

Has anyone ever even played one? Or is everyone scared to be called a vore fetishist?.

It seems like a good mage killer class.
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>>54200714
I can, I'm just really looking forward to making the saltiest lad I can for some high seas adventure!
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>>54200938
Have you?
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>>54200827
>he ruled something totally wrong
>Wands use the spell trigger activation method, so casting a spell from a wand is usually a standard action that doesn’t provoke attacks of opportunity.
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>>54201069
I believe SEagle built one for RotJR but she had to step aside for the meme queen.
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>>54201096
Sometimes I wonder if Amalthea wouldn't have been a better character for SEagle to play for that campaign, especially because JttW was a thing.
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>>54201175
He runs one of the Dragons games on Thursday evenings, he wouldn't have been able to throw Onryou into the running even if she wasn't in RotJR.
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Thinking of a half orc brawler, and investing entirely in feats that keeps me alive. Intent on making the hardiest, toughest son of a bitch that can take hits like a champ and still not go down (which is hard, considering magic bullshit, but gonna at least try it out).
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>>54201175
He could remake her as a thicc Ulfen woman in LotLK, you don't even need to recolor her hair.
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Why are we back to being /pgg/?
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>>54200826
He can if he has Feral Combat Training. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/feral-combat-training-combat/
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>>54201427
Because apparantly too many topics were getting drowned-out by gameshittery and celeb-posting.
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>>54201427
Ravioli ravioli don't lewd the dragon loli.
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>>54201435
pretty sure the assumption there is you can use the natural attack as one of your FoB attacks, not get more attacks to go with your FoB, but then again that shit's whack and there's conflicting reports last time I checked
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>>54201427
Because /sfg/ is dead and nobody else gives a shit about your title autism
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>>54200887
Monk can't either. U monk is a decent option to get Unarmed damage and hit with elbows and shit, then fighter for more feats and actually grabbing TWF.
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>>54201427
With no active /sfg/ it makes sense to fold this place back to /pgg/ so we can keep the important starfinder links available for easy access. And no, this is not an excuse for you to make a new /sfg/ thread just to stir up shit.
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Aside from Bladed Dash and Greater Bladed Dash, what other spells from the Bard, Witch or Magus spell lists do you think that the Bloodrager should have? Is there anything you think stands out as missing, or odd, in the same manner? At what Bloodrager spell level do you think that it should be on?

Thinking about making a revised spell list in case there's any other weird omissions.
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Can anyone recommend a book with multiple adventures in them for varying levels? Something like Thornwatch, or Tales of the old Margreve?
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Rumor has it the AP after Ruins of Azlant will be situated in Taldor and resolving their political situation, how does this make you feel?
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>>54201502
>With no active /sfg/ it makes sense to fold this place back to /pgg/ so we can keep the important starfinder links available for easy access.
This.
>And no, this is not an excuse for you to make a new /sfg/ thread just to stir up shit.
Especially this.
This thread's OP shows up for all relevant search terms (even /pfg/ and /sfg/), there's no legitimate reason to sperg out here.
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>>54201512
Blade Tutor's Spirit
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>>54201566
Nervous.
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Friendly reminder that Shelyn is not a virgin, even though her title is the Eternal Maiden. She has and still is canonically in a sexual relationship with Desna and Sarenrae, who are in sexual relationships with each other as well.
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>>54201640
Girl on Girl doesn't count. Neither does anal.

Trust me, I dated a catholic.
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>>54201640
And thou hath proof of this sexual congress betwixt the goddesses other than that one lewd picture?
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>>54201640
No. SHELYN IS PURE

P U R E
U
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>>54201705
>>54201721
James Jacobs confirmed it on the forums.

In 2012.

In a thread made just before Wrath of the Righteous, where he declares he hasn't been "doing enough" for representation.
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>>54201747
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE JAMES JACOBS WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>54201747
Linky dinky? Or is this just a hoodwinky?
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>>54201747
Fuck off.
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So what's a good feat for a 5th level human inquisitor?
Intimidate build
Feat tax rules
Have two damnation feats and improved monster lore
Planning on Cornugon Smash at 7th
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>>54201890
What stats? What spells? What weapon?
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>>54201640
According to many historical religions, sex between women was a nonsexual act, and therefore her maindhood is preserved.
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what are nice traits or feats to improve mutagens for a non alchemist class?
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>>54201870
Man, it will take a little bit of hunting for it, but the link's somewhere.

>>54201884
Why? This is more on-topic than half the things we discuss here. It's canon.
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>>54201890
Hurtful?
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>>54201917
>>54201870
While searching, I discovered something fascinating.

Did you know Milani was a goddess from JJ's homebrew setting?

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lzdo?For-Desnas-Sake#8
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Would Warhammer Fantasy rules be suitable for lage battles?
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>>54201890
Str 20
Dex 14
Con 12
Int 12
Wis 17
Cha 7

Longsword and buckler. Also longbow and cestus.

Detect and Read Magic, Stabilize, Brand, Stabilize, Detect Poison
Command, Handy Grapnell, Know the Enemy, Barbed Chains

Brow Gasher, Shamefully Overdressed
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>>54201968
Meant to reply to >>54201903 and not myself dammit

>>54201922
Hurtful could work
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>>54201435
Huh, I will now be able to properly use my hulking changeling Unchained Monk+Witch of Strength build to it's fullest potential.
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>>54201949
>>54201884
>>54201870
>>54201834
>>54201705

Found it: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2oqee?Discussion-and-Analysis-of-Sex-and-Female#21
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>>54201683
.....wait, was the first or the second the important one?
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>>54201917
Because you're just kicking up /pol/ bait
>>54201949
Golarion basically is JJ's homebrew setting just published. Most of the fucking core gods are from one of his homebrew settings too.
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>>54201952
If your players are fine with suddenly shifting from a system to another why not? Knew a guy who played BattleTech for mech combat and used Fate out of the mechs, so I guess shifting to WHFB wouldn't be too much of an oddity.
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>>54202002
This isn't /pol/ bait? This is all canonical facts in the settting?
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Is there a ritual or something ordinary commoners can do to help with village issues like poor crop harvests or repeated shitty weather, or are they just left with praying?

And while I know control weather is a spell, is there anything else that could help a village with problems like that? Plant growth, command plants and the like.
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>>54202076
Your friendly neighborhood Cleric of Milani should help with that.
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>>54202049
And? It's yet another part of the setting anybody can ignore at their leisure because it changes absolutely nothing about how things work within the setting, unless you are playing some odd homebrew campaign where you have to play as celestials who are running around patching up the love triangle by gathering the bouquets of flowers, taking them to couples' counselling and signing them up for dancing lessons.

All your post is doing is riling up /pol/.
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Reminder that Iron Gods, your rare chance to peruse a mechanized Conan hellscape without the choking mire of gestalt, is recruiting.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/82673/iron-gods
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>>54202076
Level 1 clerics can use Ceremony, and if their deity has the Earth domain it allows them to cast Plant Growth in enrichment mode.
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>>54202099
Not sure what Milani has to do with any of that, but ok.

>>54202149
Huh, wonder why I've never heard about ceremony.
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>>54202175
>Not sure what Milani has to do with any of that, but ok.
Our /pol/ element keeps mememing that Milani has replaced Erastil despite them having nothing to do with each other.
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>>54202175
Because it's not usually convenient or applicable for PCs to use. It's easier to use the specific spell that gives you what you want when you want it than jumping through the hoops for Ceremony and not getting much benefit.
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>>54202206
She kind of has, unless you're going to suggest Erastil is somehow as visible as ever in the setting as it currently stands.

And I do say visible, rather than celebrated or detailed. Just because you had a couple paragraphs devoted to you in 2011 does not mean people give a shit about the deity in 2017. Not writing about a god is about as damning as shelving them.
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>>54202225
Makes sense! Thanks for showing me.

>>54202206
>>54202258
Well, I'm just running with the mostly small town Harvest Moon-esque kind of stuff, so Erastil is doing just fine for me. Thanks for telling me what that was all about though.
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>>54202135
>And?

Please don't be this dense, we know you're smart enough to understand what I'm trying to do here. Honestly, I can kind of see what you're doing as well, this topic is an unpopular one so you're trying to kill it before people can see it.

Shelyn is in a caonical love triangle between Desna and Sarenrae. This isn't something that should be ignored in much the same way we shouldn't "ignore" the Spire Elves have a goddamn War Goddess in their possession, or "ignore" James Jacobs has removed the Unbearded social class from Taldor because Jessica Price threw a bitch-fit. We shouldn't have to "not talk about" shit that's set in stone about the setting because we're in a General that's supposed to TALK about the setting, warts and all.
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>>54201949
>http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2lzdo?For-Desnas-Sake#8

>Her faith has resorted to guerilla style tactics against oppressive governments many times in the past, particularly in Taldor, Qadira, and Osirion.

What did James Jacobs mean by this? When has Osirion been "oppressive" when they were in fact the oppressed?

More importantly, when has Qadira been "oppressive" when the Cult of the Dawnflower actually supports the current government, a government that is chomping at the bit for war with Taldor? The fact JJ sees nothing wrong with this means he does not see Qadiran aggression against their northern neighbor as an evil thing, or in fact even an evil thing.
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>>54202406
>or in fact even an evil thing.
Fuck, meant to say "a bad thing."

Which just gets me confused; this thread was written in 2011, back when Taldor was actively suppressing the Cult of the Dawnflower and had in place a strong social strata... Yet, fast-forward to 2017, and what do we see? The Cult of the Dawnflower is allowed to practice in Taldor, that lore was "retconned." The Unbearded do not exist, that was "retconned." Everything else exists, yet for some reason all the policies and practices Paizo could pin on Taldor as being "regressive" seem to be gone?
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>>54201069
Played one and had a ton of fun. Its definitely one of the better mage-killers and good at grappling if your'e into that.
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>>54201914
hello?
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Would a Paladin fall if an evil character joins the party?
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I hope FotJR has fun at the harvest festival tonight!
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>>54202525
Fuck off.
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>>54202525
>harvest festival

oh, if only you knew
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>>54202516
Not util he allows thay evil character to do obvious evil stuff that goes against his code on purpose
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>>54202565
What's going on? Tell us!
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>>54201914
>>54202463
There's not much.
You have
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/magic-traits/unstable-mutagen/
And that's pretty much it. Everything else is discoveries.
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>>54202139
IRON
WAIFUS
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>>54202605
Why are you like this?
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>>54202139
I'll wait till my homegroup covers this one, since I can actually ask for some legit viable tech stuff to play with.

Besides the GM made it pretty clear a few threads ago they want cute/lewd stuff which I don't really do.
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>>54202641
Would you rather we talk about Shelyn's lesbian threesome with Desna and Sarenrae? Or perhaps how Iomedae got cocksleeved by Apsu?
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>>54202672
Unironically yes.
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>>54202139
What else is recruiting now?
Ladyknights game and Wist's game? Is this the only non meme?
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>>54202672
I'd rather talk about mechanics and classes. I've never been interested in the divine aspects of most settings honestly.
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>>54202685
Sorry, we can't. Anon above told us we should just "ignore" the setting when we don't like it.

Because ignoring it makes it go away!
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>>54202696
>Iron Gods
>Not a meme
C'mon now, anon
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>>54202700
We literally can. That's the beauty of RPGs. You can make those gods straight as a board if you hate teh gays that fucking much.
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>>54202672
>Iomedae got cocksleeved by Apsu?
Sauce?
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>>54202728
Oh man, we used to talk about that shit and trumpets all the time! Ah, the memories.
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>>54202756
And now we're back to harvest festival posting. How far we've fallen.
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>>54202728
She's got a gold dragon herald that calls her "mother," and she's got a thing with Apsu that's semi-canon?
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>>54201069
>>54201096
>>54202462

May yet have to dust off. Awinita the Ox
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>>54202776
How do I get cocksleeved by a dragon?
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>>54202565
You can't just tease us like that anon, who's taking Sweettooth to the dance?
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>>54202716
Except that's directly rewriting the established lore, dude. You can make Ameiko straight as an arrow because her only relationship was with a boy, you can make Shalelu a lesbian because her sexuality is never established.

But saying Shelyn is straight is about as wrong as saying Anevia was always a woman. You're shitting over the developer's vision.
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>>54202805
Quinn, obviously.
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>>54202801
>cocksleeved by a dragon?
Amateur. A true man would cocksleeve a dragon.
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>>54202801
Buy bad dragon or pay some burly men to shove a broom handle with some chicken skin glued on tip up your ass.
>>54202815
RPGs are meant to be enjoyed and changed to suit ones needs/wants. Why do care about shitting on the dev's vision anyway. We do that pretty much all the time when we play Path of War, Psionics, Spheres, Jolly stuff, avowed, etc.
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>>54202843
Incorrect good sir a true woman would cocksleave a dragon
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>>54202835
he doesn't know
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>>54202843
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>>54202880
Good, let's keep it that way.
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>>54202880
Know what?
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>>54202794
now that is the thickest build
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>>54202908
Sweettooth died. Gnolls.
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>>54202956
Fuck. Is RgPl rolling up a whole new character for JR?
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>>54202956
Never trust the RotJRs, even if they're FotJRs
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>>54202618
Even the benefits in that feat are meh as fuck, literally not worth taking
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>>54202908
>>54202835
>>54202805
those two had a stupidly massive falling out. turns out killing some someone that the other person promise to bring back alive is a bad way to keep that person's friendship
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>>54202898
In that case, simply proposition a dragon young enough to be Large-sized, as anything bigger would simply not fit inside you barring spells.

A Large Dragon would be slightly bigger than a horse, assuming you're a shapely Ulfen woman you should be barely able to accommodate him inside you.
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>>54202801
Ask Vult for some side action with the Yellow Jacket
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>>54202794
Fat.
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>>54203004
Yeah, but honestly mutagens are so good you don't NEED feats to modify them.
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>>54203042
...you've never learned the first thing about anatomy except through hentai, have you?
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>>54203085
Okay.
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>>54203078
SPIRAL HEMIPENES
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>>54203154
KABUTOMUSHI?
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>>54202956
>>54203005
Reminder: >>54202987
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>>54203108
Oh please, enlighten me.
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>>54203193
If someone got fucked and I mean actually fucked by a horse, they'd be severely injured.

You're suggesting someone can survive such a thing from a fictional beast larger than horse because they're curvy and a member of a fictional race of not vikings you find attractive.
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>>54201998
Basically it's not sex until the marriage when you get caught going for a second abortion. So anything that doesn't cause those directly isn't sex.

That means girl on girl isn't sex, oral isn't sex, anal isn't sex, pulling out isn't sex, cumming inside isn't sex until you've been pregnant once, and it's never sex if there's condoms.
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>>54203193
See most frequenters in /pfg/ who also frequent hentai sites are a bunch of faggots, but have also acquired a taste for tits. Thus hentain provides them a way to satisfy their urge of seeing tits and a giant horsecock on the same character, because people who like futa are fucking faggots.
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>>54202361
>we can't possibly ignore the dev's setting
>we can ignore any homebrew setting
>but not this one
>in fact, we must fight against ant setting that is not this one
>because only this setting is okay
You're the same asshat that's been shitting all over everyone's homebrew setting because they don't follow "THE RUUULLLEESSS" just because you didn't get your "this is how gnolls work in your setting now let me play one" shit into someone's campaign, aren't you.
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>>54203262
>it's never sex if there's condoms.
Aren't these a no no for Catholics unless your SO has an STD?
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>>54202869
XS wrote that.
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Have any of you guys stumbled across combos that give your character far more power than you expected?

I just managed to give an eidolon at level 6 the equivalent of 38 evolution points, and I was not expecting it to be this powerful.
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>>54203325
Unless we see the math, we won't believe that one. too many "EIDOLONS BROKEN" relied on incorrect math and false rulings.
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>>54203246
Well, people CAN have sex with horses in this setting because the Mask of the Demon Mother confirms those who lay with anything within one size category from themselves can be impregnated!

This means women fucking horses to birth fiendish rapehorses is canon.
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>>54203325
How? I assume your playing a race that gives points as an FCB while also taking extra evolution? Would that give you enough?
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>>54203325
a Freind of mine once made a Gunslinger(Musket Master 5) /Inquisitor (Whatever) Multiclass, not expecting the sheer amount of power the two classes combined would have. needless to say, things got gibbed.....
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>>54203096
And feats or traits for drink mutagens faster? I found accelerated drinker, but taking into account pickign a mutagen is already a move action what does it matter to spend a move action and a standar action than to spend 2 move actions? the result is the same
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>>54203325
How?

and yes, a crit build with Outflank and Combat Reflexes + another player with the same thing
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>>54203288
>just because you didn't get your "this is how gnolls work in your setting now let me play one" shit into someone's campaign

Except you're the one saying we should ignore how the gods work in this setting?
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>>54203344
>>54203354
It's not actually 38 evolution points, don't worry; it's actually nine, plus an ability that gives it the equivalent of 29 EPoints.

The Alien Summons Hex (A shaman Hex, available to Dark Tapestry shamans) can be taken by a Spirit Summoner at level 6, assuming they have the Dark Tapestry Spirit. that's 29 points. 5 points for base evolutions, +1 for an aberrant eidolon, +1 for being a half-elf and using the favored class bonus, +1 for the Magical Enigma feat, and +1 for Extra Evolution.
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Can anyone help me build a speed demon?

Level 10, gestalt, one template allowed.
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>>54203325
I have. And I have only one thing to say:
Never let anyone play a Centaur ever, ever, ever
And if your GM throws one against you, you best know how to run away faster than it can run you down.
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>>54203346
We already new that because ogres and the like.

Thing is, that doesn't negate the "severely injured" portion of the statement.
>>54203371
No, but you shouldn't be drinking your mutagen in combat.
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>you will never get the chance to play Doomfist in comp
>mainly because you're banned in season 5 but also because someone else will pick him first because he's fun
why live?
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>>54203481
You may be in the wrong place.
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>>54203388
Checks out, I think. Just remember that this only applies if you use the SPELL to summon your Eiodolan and not the class feature ritual.
>>54203481
Wrong thread Overwatch fag.
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>>54203481
you may be in the wrong thread, boyo.

Or the wrong board.
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>>54203378
I didn't say any such thing. I just pointed out that there's always one asshat who jumps on this 'can't change the RULLLLLLEEEESSS because it's the SEETTTNNNNGGGG" even when it isn't.

Apparently, it's you.
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>>54203481
Dude, I can't wait to play the Giga Nigga himself.
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>>54203493
The Hex says "Calls or summons". There's no mention of it needing to be a spell.

Going by the actual description of the summon's eidolon as well...
>A summoner begins play with the ability to summon to his side a powerful outsider called an eidolon.
So I'm pretty sure this works on the Eidolon regardless of how you summon it up, as long as you aren't going to whatever plane it's from or something like that.
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Is it worth taking the Hexcrafter archetype?
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>>54203621
A L L D A Y
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>>54203621
100% yes
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>>54203621
From what I understand it's one of the four magus archetypes worth taking and pretty much should be taken when you can.
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>>54203621
No real reason not to. Grab a conducting weapon and go to town
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>>54200465
Error 101: listing pic more interesting than subject.
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>>54203669
What are the other three archetypes worth taking?
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>>54203702
Kensai and the Black Blade ones are two.
Dunno what's the third.
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>>54203702
Eldritch Archer is also a useable archetype, though opinions on it may vary.
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>>54203706
>>54203702
Eldritch Archer.

Oh and mymidon if your doing spells linger cheese.
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>>54203706
The black blade archetype is called bladebound. The other two worth using are hexcrafter and eldritch archer. Hexcrafter in particular might be considered a straight upgrade.
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>>54203740
what's funny is that Eldritch Archer and Mymidarch can Stack. though there's pretty much no reason for you to ever take both...not that i am aware of, at least.
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>mfw Tuvarkz and Books 1 and 2 of WotR
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>>54203706
>Kensai
>"worth taking"

Ahaha, no. It's a passable meme archetype at best. Eldritch is THE ranged archetype though.
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Not really specific to pathfinder, but do dragonborn ever horde or sleep on gold? Is that racist to assume?
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>>54203706
Is it worth stacking Bladebound and Hexcrafter?
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>>54203809
There is an Archetype for Witches in Pathfinder called the Wyrmwitch that has draconic esque flavoring. it literally has to sleep on a pile of gold to use their magic. so, i would say no.
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>>54203820
Yes.
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>>54203820
Keep in mind it adds Brand to your spell list, giving you a cantrip usable with Spell Combat.
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>>54203526
Actually, getting a Rod of Giant Summoning and Augment Summoning could let you have +12 str and con, +2 dex, +4 to other stats, and +5 natural armor for a few minutes. That sounds dreadful!
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>>54203918
Augment summoning won't work. It explicitly calls out the Summon spells.
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>>54203981
>>54203918
Same for the rod.
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>>54203918
essentially just pulling out all the stops to turn your eidolon into an utter fucking powerhouse?

>>54203981
There's always the Summon Eidolon spell. but yeah, neither of those work with the base eidolon summoning ritual.
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>>54203981
>>54203991
Meant to mention the Summon Eidolon spell, whoops. It's why I said for a few minutes. Basically shifting into overdrive for a bit. If that worked for the class feature, holy shit.
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Is it just me or has DHB dropped off the face of the earth? Hasn't applied to any games in weeks.

So /pfg/ which of his homebrew do you think is best suited for the upcoming games?
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>>54203918
>Using two rods at once
That doesn't work.

>A caster may only use one metamagic rod on any given spell, but it is permissible to combine a rod with metamagic feats possessed by the rod’s wielder. In this case, only the feats possessed by the wielder adjust the spell slot of the spell being cast.
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>>54204073
Augment Summon is a feat not even metamagic
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>>54204073
Augment Summoning is a feat. Alien Summons is a hex. The only rod is Rod of Giant Summoning. Sorry if I was unclear.
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>>54201069
I'm playing one for Abyssia
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Which are the must have spells for druid from level 1 to 4 (not character level, spell level)?
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>>54204272
Barkskin, barksin and barkskin.
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>>54204272
The thing about prepared casters is that they can prepare. The 'must have' spells change depending on what you are doing.
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Of all the ethnic groups in Golarion, which do you believe have the most (rightful) reasons to be frustrated with their lot in life?
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>>54204405
Azlanti
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>>54204405
The Kellid, every place they inhabit is a hostile, barren shitheap and the last time they actually settled down to form a nation, the Worldwound happened.
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>>54204433
That's the thing, the Kellid don't really mind. They like it rough.
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>>54204405
The Ulfen. They are just minding their business when some cunt from across the universe comes and conquers them, makes a mockery of them and slaughter them by the masses. Not only that, but now some random people from the home planet of their mortal enemy have started obsessing over them like some creepy worshipers of Nocticula who do not nothing but talk of their "thicc" women and call the proud warriors with mighty beards "daddies".
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>>54203790
>Not Zen Archer
What.
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>>54204813
THE ranged archetype for Magus, obviously
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Do Bladebounds automatically get proficiency with their black blades?
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>>54204893
Yes.
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>>54204893
Depends on if your DM lets you make it a pre-errata heirloom weapon
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>>54204636
Don't forget the Brevic Swordlords since they seem to be the butt of some sort of cosmic joke.
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>>54204935
Press F to pay your respects.

http://imgur.com/a/ouFyz
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>>54205134
Brevic Swordlords in half-capes sound hella cool though.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13376596/
pls vote
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>>54205178
It would be if they didn't blow harder than a five dollar hooker at a Wall Street get-together.
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>>54205194
It's the GM's decision, literally why should we waste our time? The app process isn't even close to being over either, so voting when all the apps aren't even in is fucking stupid.
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>>54205178
The concept is amazing. The crunch is not.
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I have a few questions about the gaslighter archetype for mesmerists in the Pathfinder roleplaying game.

At 3rd level, as a standard action, a gaslighter can implant a maddening phantasm) in the mind of the target of his hypnotic stare, causing the target to perceive its own reflection as corrupted in some disturbing way. This is a mind-affecting fear effect, and there is no saving throw. The target is simultaneously captivated and horrified by the sight of its own reflection, and in any round in which the target can see itself in a mirror within 30 feet, the gaslighter can trigger his painful stare against the target without dealing damage. This is a gaze attack, and the creature can avert its eyes to attempt to avoid it. Any creature holding a visible mirror that attempts to demoralize the target can choose to add the gaslighter’s Charisma modifier to its Intimidate check instead of its own. Horrid mask lasts until that particular hypnotic stare ends (often when the target moves away from a mirror). The gaslighter can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + his Charisma modifier.

This ability replaces touch treatment (minor) and alters painful stare.

However the archetype appears to in no way affect Hypnotic stare. So im confused. What does it mean by this. How does the stare end when the subject moves away from the mirror; if the stare is reliant on YOUR distance to the victim, not the mirror's?
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Would you Nice Ice Mice?
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>>54205572
No.
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About where should a 4th level character's saves be?
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>>54205572
Who the fuck is this?
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>>54205572
Really shocked how much they managed to make the face look like a man, given it's anime garbage
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>>54205572
Yes, she seems sweet-natured and we could always use another friendly face around here!
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>>54205609
+7 or more on the good saves.
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>>54205674
You mean the saves the character is good at, or the saves that are good to have?
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>>54205609

Depends on the character. Some can have really high while others will only have one or two decent ones
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>>54205692
Yes, and some characters are goblin shit while others are functional.
Where should saves be for a functional character who won't just roll over and fellate the first encounter more complicated than "It rolls to hit"??
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>>54205682
Saves you are good at. This is assuming you have: +2 or more from a stat (+3 or 4 if it con/dex/wis is your primary) with a +1 res cloak and/or tratis that increase your saves. A focused character could easily go to +10 or so.
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>>54205409
Any help would be greatly appreciated anon
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>>54205409
Would assume it ends once the subject is not able to perceive itself from the mirror since no distance is given otherwise.
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>>54205714
>all this anger
Gee anon, maybe you should take a break. Maybe have a snickers.
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>>54205767
Okay, but where is the mirror mentioned otherwise? How is the hypnotic stare related, if at all?
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>>54205767
But it says "Horrid mask lasts until that particular hypnotic stare ends (often when the target moves away from a mirror). "

And hypnotic stare is a mesmerist class feature that requires the mesmerist to stare at the guy; and has nothing to do with mirrors. SO why would that stare end when the guy moves away from the mirror?

Do they roll perception to see the mirror still? Can they take 1 on this
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>>54205409
Because it's pointless to maintain the hypnotic stare when your victim can't be affected by the phantasm effect. Generally, it's much better to switch to a different target or a different type of hypnotic stare.
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>>54205841
Hazarding a guess: This ability is triggered with hypnotic stare in effect.

>>54205859
It notes that the creature can avert it's gaze from the mirror to avoid the effect much like any stare ability. Only difference is that this doesn't originate from the caster, so not looking at the NE halfling does nothing. And it doesn't, because it never specifies at what distance that effect breaks if the creature still looks at the mirror, meaning that it lasts as long as the creature sees the mirror which is within 30ft of the mesmerist.
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>>54205893
You CANT trigger the ability until they are the target of your hypnotic stare. The archetype doesnt change hypnotic stare at all; and it ends (as normal) when your target gets out of the normal range of hypnotic stare. It notes they can avert their eyes to avoid the horrid mask ability; however you CANT avert your gaze to avoid hypnotic stare, So wtf

>>54205876
Its not pointless to maintain; they still suffer the -3 will save from the stare and all your bold stare/painful stares.

I just dont get what it means besides that.
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>Flower Nymph (homebrew race, v3)
You spoke, and we listened! Shortstack meta is now official, and the fluff is generally less fetishbait. Also comes with a few extra feats that I thought was missing, and a dexfag ART that's just there because why not.

Also, suggestions for example art would be appreciated.
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Does the Light Sphere's Nimbus Focus drawback actually need you to take a nimbus talent with it, because it doesn't actually say it does.
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>>54205971
The wording is unclear, but I think it's safe to assume that's how it works.
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>>54205929
It says "Horrid mask lasts until that particular hypnotic stare ends (often when the target moves away from a mirror). "

Which doesnt make sense. because Hypnotic stare doesnt end when someone moves 30 ft away from any mirror. It only ends when the mesmerist is out of range. Does that means different mirrors can trigger horrid mask so long as the mesmerist is still staring at you since implanting the phantasm as a standard, done AFTER starting the stare.
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>>54200406
>yeah, if bladed dash really was at level 1, it being a level 1 spell would change the math on that a bit.
Yeah, having Bladed Dash on level 1, Force Hook Charge on lvl 3 and Greater Bladed Dash on level 4 would change the considerations considerably, I think. They're already pretty different.

I'm really liking the idea of building a dex-based speedster-type Bloodrager, possibly with a Sorcerer dip for the bloodline arcanas that increases the caster levels and durations of transmutation spells.
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>>54200738
Your GM is an absolute fucking retard.
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>>54206205
>tfw there is no equivalent to Bladed Dash in spheres that I can find
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>>54206205
>Blood Rager
>Dex Based
>multiclassing fullcasters and 4th casters
STOP
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>>54204405
Ulfen. One of the best, most fleshed-out races in the setting, yet tragically forgotten by Paizo for not being diverse and politically correct enough.
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>>54206258
They're featured pretty fucking prominately in at least 2 APs.
> not being diverse and politically correct enough.
>>>/pol/
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>>54206283
>>>/lgbt/
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>>54205957
Line 7 says there are 6 habitats, line 9 lists 8.
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Am I irreversibly screwing myself if I play a hedgewitch (herbalist, academic; creation handbook talents) focused on the creation sphere and pick the drawback that only permits alter spells?

I know it means I can't create food or alchemical compounds, but I should still be able to function if I'm creative
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>>54206313
But I'm not gay.

If you love Ulfen so much why not play MYFAROG, from your comment it seems like you and the author would get along quite well ideologically. It sounds right up your alley.
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>>54206330
Yeah, good catch. I expanded the habitat list later on without editing the number reference.
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>>54206313
>>>/news/
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>>54201574
Too fucking true. Magus gets it at 1, Sorcerer, Wizard and even fucking Summoners get it at 2, even though it reads like textbook Bloodrager.
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>>54205957
Does the climb bonus for Mountain stack with the +8 racial from having a climb speed, or is it just a reminder that having a climb speed gives you a +8 racial to climb checks?
Ditto for Waters and swim.
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Basic telekinesis says: "This ability is similar to mage hand, except you can move an object that weighs up to 5 pounds per 2 kineticist levels you possess (minimum 5 pounds), and you can move magical objects. Additionally, you can create a container of entwined strands of aether in order to hold liquids or piles of small objects of the same weight."

Telekinetic Haul means: When using basic telekinesis, you can move an object that weighs up to 100 pounds per kineticist level you possess. When using your telekinetic blast, you can throw an object weighing up to 100 pounds per kineticist level you possess, but this doesn’t increase the damage. If you accept 1 point of burn, the maximum weight increases to 1,000 pounds per kineticist level you possess and the duration increases to 1 minute per kineticist level you possess.


Can you make a container that holds up to 1000lb per level????????
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>>54206411
It may just be a reminder honestly. And it's redundant anyway, seeing as an extra +8 racial from having a climb speed would not stack with a +8 racial to climb checks just because. The Adapted Growth entries are by and large several years old, from when I wrote the V1.
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>>54206245
It's a fucking terrible spell why would you even want it?
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>>54206442
Because he's a massive weeaboo?
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>>54206440
Wouldn't be redundant since you didn't specify the additional +8 was a racial bonus.
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>>54206442
Muh spell combat/mystic assault full attacks, dude. I'm not aware of a way to do "move+make a melee attack as a spell" in spheres.
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>>54206478
Quicken Spell using a warp talent to teleport to someone and stab them?
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>>54206474
Good point. Also even if it was a racial bonus, it would remain in cases where you lost the Climb speed (like when polymorphing). I'll just remove it, then.
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>>54206350
Ah, so you're posting from the cuck shed. Isn't it a little late over there, Sven?
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>>54206501
I'm not Swedish.

And yeah, MYFAROG definitely seems up your alley. I won't bother telling you to go to /pol/ since it' obvious your dumbass posts there already. So just fuck off and preferably kill yourself while you're at it.
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Anyone got one liner summaries of the Nodachis?
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>>54206487
That's almost like telling someone to take Dimensional Dervish, which is admittedly not too bad an idea given the Warp Sphere, but still.
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>>54206283
>They're featured prominently in 2 APs

Not really? They're the backdrop for Book 2 of Jade Regent and only a thing for Reign of Winter at the end of Book 6.
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>>54206514
I am swedish, and you are clearly just the right amount of faggot to fit perfectly with the others at /lgbt/.
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Pathfinders do I have it right that if I have a masterwork item I could take that item to my local friendly NPC and have them make it magical, rather than just flat out buying a +1 greataxe?

Also would I have it right that the spell storing enchant costs 4000gold? (2000 for the initial +1, another 2000 for the spell storing)
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>>54206540
> and you are clearly just the right amount of faggot to fit perfectly with the others at /lgbt/.
Why? Because I don't hate brown people and passively aggressively post about how much I hate them in a general about RPGs.
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>>54206514
Wowzers, calling for suicide over this? I thought you people were hyper-sensitive about that sort of stuff!
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>>54206350
>But I'm not gay.
And I don't go to /pol/, but for someone that isn't gay, you sure are a giant faggot.

>If you love Ulfen so much why not play MYFAROG
If you like taking dick so much, why not play FATAL, from your comment it seems you and the aùthor would get along quite well sexually.
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>>54206555
Yes, then no.

Masterwork then magical is all gravy.

Price for enchants scale. 2k for the initial +1, but getting something to +2 total enchantment costs

[Enchant Total]^2*2000

This means it'll cost you a total 8k to get to Spell Storing. 2000 for the +1, then 6000 for the Spell Storing itself.
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Have you ever worshiped two major gods at the same time? How did you roleplay that? Which two did you worship?

Pic unrelated; I just like Red Mages.
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>>54206557
Because you get triggered, flip tables and throw shitfits at the slightest mention of a wrongthink topic?
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>>54206586
>you sure are a giant faggo
I could say the same for you too!

We should totally play FATAL together anon!
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>>54206591
I think people who stick to one god for worship are idiots. The common man should worship Shelyn when he wants to find love, worship Gozreh for good weather and Desna for a safe trip.
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>>54206591
Friend of mine played a polytheist. If the domains and alignments don't conflict majorly, it's possible to believe in more than 2 gods' teachings. I'd ask him how exactly he did it, but I don't fucking want to. Suffice to say, if the teachings don't conflict, you can believe in both.
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>>54206617
It's always funny how those types of people want to "have a conversation" or "open a dialogue" when they immediately try to shut it down when a dissenting opinion expresses itself.
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>>54206618
This became kinda heartwarming. /pfg/ creating friendships and gaming groups one post at a time. I hope you have fun!
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>>54206514
>such edgy
>much angst
>very commie
>wow
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>>54206587
Thanks for outlying this perfectly.
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>>54206627
Well sure, you'd make sacrifices to multiple Gods, might even join the cults of a few, but you'll almost always have one that speaks to you, personally, and that you come back to on the regular.

A merchant, for instance, would probably keep a holy symbol of Abadar even if he kept visiting the temples of Shelyn and Calistria for advice while he was looking for a bride.
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>>54206640
>>54206643
This isn't the place for it and I love how you think everyone who doesn't those goddamn niggers is suddenly an SJW/communist. Must be a fun world to live in.
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Ungermaw meta when!?
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>>54206627
>>54206631
That sounds actually pretty workable. Kinda like the Greco-Roman pantheons. Worship a select a number of the pantheon who vaguely mesh well, with the only dedicated clerics and paladins worshiping and championing single gods.

Makes me wish that the empyreal lords worship was a lot more common. I'd like a sort of pantheon of big major deities and a bunch of small time specific deities.
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>>54206591
I may or may not be playing a character with multiple patron deities in WotR .
It's going to be very interesting.
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>>54206627
Religion, much like everything else in Golarion, is shallow as fuck. The very idea of worshipping only a single god in a pantheon should be anear-absurd outlier reserved perhaps only for the relevant clergy.

As a veteran of Warhammer Fantasy before it was shitcanned and ruined by GW, it's one of my pet peeves with Pathfinder and D&D, just like how the gods always have the same names, how they represent set personas, etc.
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>>54206644
Yeah, a buddy of mine was having trouble figuring it out, and I played a merchant in a modified campaign, so I'm used to fiddling with the numbers.

Do note that some enchants cost more than +1 equivalency, and some just have a flat price, so getting Adaptive doesn't count against your enhancement bonus total and will always be the same price, but something like Keen will increase in price as you upgrade weapons by virtue of being priced as an additional +1 enhancement to the total.

After making your initial upgrade to Spell Storing, to price things, take the difference between what the new enchant would make your total enhancement and subtract what your current is, so getting to 3 from 2 is 18000-8000, so it'll cost you 10k.
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>>54206697
what would be a common origin for an Ungermaw?
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>>54206673
Except the only one expressing hate here is your teenage-angsty ass, virtue-signaling on an anonymous message board.
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>>54206715
> "you know it's kind of ironic that mimics taste so go- oh God why am I so hungry"!!
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>>54206256
No. I like my 1-level dips for bloodline arcanas.
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>>54206671
Why would you go to the Temple of Calistria for marriage advice? So you can learn if a girl you fancy's actually a huge slut?
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>>54206688
I've actually finally looked at the Ungermaw, since I had no fucking clue what everybody was talking about it the first time I heard it. Enlarge or Half-Giant would be perfect, since you'd be counted as Large, meaning you could consume any creature, save Kaiju. The Swallow Whole doesn't actually seem all that useful beyond forcing a creature to burn actions to break out, since the damage they need to deal to get out is pretty trivial.

Using Draw Breath to dispel a group of enemies is actually a really nice touch. The spell eating is lovely flavor, and there are a few items that boost your caster level, making the dispel easier.

Eating things that have lower hardness than half your level won't be all that useful, since most things that matter such as stone and metals are going to be out of your reach until levels at which breaking them would be easier than eating them.

Any race with a bite would be a good pick, since that'd increase your damage, even if only slightly. Str and Con seem to be priorities, but they usually are. I'd probably go Two-Handed, with the bonus Primary from the bite serving as a grapple at the end if it's solo, since you can hold them in place so they can't just fuck off to stab your dudes.
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>>54206283
>They're featured pretty fucking prominately in at least 2 APs.
Citation needed, because that's bullshit.
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>>54206697
This is why I prefer settings that actually limit the number of gods to something tiny, like 4.
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>tfw thinking of buying MYFAROG just because I think it might be fun to play an RPG set in the dark ages.
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>>54206824
I think the the ability to eat things with a hardness half your level is more about getting through obstacles more than actually getting any nourishment from it
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>>54206710
A follow up question, if I have a +1 greataxe then I want to put spell storing on it, does it become a +1 greataxe of spellstoring or just a spellstoring axe?
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>>54206829
They have an entire book and half devoted to them in Jade Regent and are also pretty prominent in Irissen i.e Reign of Winter.

And there's also a Campaign Setting book. And like 3 different modules. I'm not sure what the fuck else you could WANT.
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>>54206901
+1 spell storing
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>>54206901
It's a +1 Greataxe of Spell Storing, but most people just say Spell Storing Greataxe because it's implied that the weapon HAS to be +1 to even be Spell Storing.
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>>54206887
Well yeah, but wood is hardness 5. That means you have to be level 10-12 depending on how you do the math to eat through a wooden door.

What self-respecting 10th level character has trouble with wood?
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>>54206901
The usual formula is "enchancement bonus" "Material" "Qualities" "Weapon"

Example: +2 Mithral Fiery Burst Kukri

So it's +1 Spell Storing Greataxe
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>>54206939
Maybe when dealing with inappropriately leveled encounter with a druid?
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>>54206887
Yeah, fair enough. I mostly wanted to cruise around eating rocks and nails, so it was a bit of a bummer for me.
>>54206939
Well, you can still bite through them just fine. You get to bypass some of their hardness, which would let you break them with your bite. You just can't eat them.
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Why does Piercing Thunder have such bad low-level stances.

Literally the first 3 stances from Piercing Thunder can be replicated with feats
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>>54206907
People want them to be the focus of an AP, not just the background noise.
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>>54206939
Erectile dysfunction at high levels is nothing to be ashamed of, anon.
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>>54206974
>3 Modules
An I mean being several prominent NPC's some of which are vital to progress the story more or less isn't just background noise.
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>>54206961
there is that alternate racial trait that Tieflings get lets them get nourishment from Sand and Ash
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>>54206964
Phalanx Lancer is extremely good, not sure what you're on about with that.

Agreed that the other two are meh.
IPA is just not synergistic like it should. The reduction of penalty for acrobatics in heavy armor is just too small. I get what they were going for, and it didn't work.
Twin Thunders is just garbage unless you invest in it, but you don't generally do TWF charge builds so literally what?
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Alright, so, for the past two years I've largely been ignoring SoP because there was never any urgency for me to learn it; I don't GM games, I don't play many casters, and I haven't been in many games that allow Spherescasters.

Well, that has changed. I'm putting together a character for a game that does allow SoP, and I wanted to make a fleshcrafter, and I thought I was screwed over by Paizo's idiocy until a friend pointed out that SoP can do it with little fanfare. Because my friend isn't the most knowledgeable when it comes to the subsystem, I figured I'd come to you, /pgg/, since i know you guys have a reasonable grasp of the SoP rules system and can probably help me figure out what's optimal for the character I want.
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>>54207050
Do you want to focus on fucking with your own body, or with other people's bodies?
Also, do you want to be gishy or just pure magic?
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>>54207015
Reign of Winter has three NPCs who are all in their own way important to advance. FIrst is the woman who is pretty much the only friendly contact players have for the first book in Irrisen, second one is a smuggler who gets you into the capital and third one is the rebel leader in Whitethrone who is the only friendly contact and provider of sanctuary inside Whitethrone, two former ones being written as "Pretty much no reason not to tag along since you are kinda saving their asses and they have very little to lose".

There you have three prominent, plot important ulfen that can and most likely do stick through the whole AP.

And then there's the sole friendly contact you have in book 5 of Iron Gods who I am pretty sure, if that IG game isn't a bamboozle, is going to be a fought over waifu.
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>>54207017
Could be good. I got some kinda gluttonous Tiefling art a while back, so it might be good. I'd like to make something with a Seven Deadly Sins motif, and this works pretty well as a spell eater. Size increase with the Swallow Whole ability could be nice, though I think you can only swallow one person per turn, if I didn't read it incorrectly.
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>>54207052
I want to do several things.
1) I want to be able to shapeshift myself at basically a whim, if that's possible
2) I want to be able to mix it up in melee
3) I want to have a companion critter I can modify and optimze as well, and possibly give permanent mods to my party.

Is that possible to get all in one character? I'm fine with dropping up to two of them, but I'll give the highest priority to mixing it up in melee personally.
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>>54207076
I don't have it in front of me. But I know that you can have multiple creatures in there at a time.
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>>54207068
>Book 5 waifu

Explain.
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>>54207092
Yeah, that's all doable.
I'd suggest playing a Shifter with a focus on the Alteration and Conjuration spheres.
Alteration will be your transformative bread and butter, Conjuration will let you summon your little murder buddy.
You won't be good at combat unless you transform yourself, but Shifter gets the ability to do that fast so you can actually fight turn 1.
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>>54207050
Alteration Sphere
>http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/alteration
There's even a sphere specific drawback called flesh warper.
>http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/casting-traditions#toc55

Tell me more about what you want to do mechanically.
>>54207092
And you did. You're going to want alteration sphere but no drawbacks. As for class look into Incanter or Hedgewitch and take the options that grant you an animal companion. I recommend hedgewitch the most since it's d8 3/4ths
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>>54207097
Nah, I was saying that if a creature is drawn into the Ungermaw's square, they can be devoured, but it costs an immediate action to do so, so you can only get one person that way per round.
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>>54207164
She is a shapely ulfen matron with blue eyes, blonder flowing hair and what I am going to assume is her main attraction (unless you like amputees because she is missing an arm and a leg) she has blue skin.
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>>54207207
Isn't she a villain with the technic league. I think I remember that
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>>54207092
You can focus on both Alteration and Conjuration sphere. Start with a Shifter class and the Bound Creature Boon. Dip a level of Incanter with Alteration specialization for more talents. Dip a level of Monk (Beastsoul) to get a permanent transformation for yourself and better natural attack. Pick some sphere drawbacks if you need even more talents.
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>>54207225
LN. She is the only one who the players can actively ally themselves with without going out of their way to ally with CE and NE characters who are more than happy to simply continue being sadistic bastards while the woman just wants to learn about technology.
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>>54206402
>a spell that encourages thought and planning in combat
>bloodrager worthy
It sounds the exact opposite to me.
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>>54207076

did it happen to be this art?
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>>54207175
Good to know. The game happening at level 8, so I'm jumping right in the deep end for this.

Is there a way to get this with an animal compan-
>>54207201
okay, so there is! this is excellent. Flesh Warper actually looks pretty interesting; I'd have to forgo my own transforming and the like, but it'd give me free reign to modify my pet however I like, if I'm looking at this right. I think that'd satisfy my desire to get into melee without putting my actual character at risk.

>>54207238
I'm just not a fan of summoned monsters, for whatever reason. I just like ontological inertia, you know?

Thanks for the help.
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>>54207238
I think a straight up Animal Companion would probably fit what he wants better. Bound companion fucks you over if it actually sees combat because if it dies you're out of magic for like a fucking month.
>>54207275
Yeah. Green Magic Hedgewitch, maybe take Dragonblood adept since you get some body horror going on with that if none of the Traditions appeal.
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>>54206964
Why is Piercing Thunder so bad in general?
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>>54207317
Ex disciplines either suck or are overpowered.
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>>54206591
Yes. I had a character who worshiped the Sun god and the Star goddess. Naturally one he worshiped at daytime and the other at night, but that was a given because there was only one star in the Dyson sphere - the sun shrank at 'night' to become a tiny star instead of a burning ball.
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Actually, since you can Swallow Whole Objects as well, you can actually consume entire buildings once you're large enough. Seriously, coupled with a Large Half-Giant, at level 9, you could consume a Huge sized object. With the Projectile Puke ability, you could then spit a Huge object at somebody. A typical Huge creature is 2-16 tons. Assuming an object of approximate weight... 1 damage per 25 pounds if it hits. 80 damage at the low end, assuming the object isn't considered dangerous. Heavy stones are considered dangerous, so keeping a stockpile of metal and stone in your pocket dimension to spit up for 80d6 damage is a decent strategy for an Ungermaw.
>>54207271
It is exactly that art. I didn't think I'd ever get to use it, but I liked the style regardless.
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>>54206627
Most people do. It's just clerics/divine classes who have to devote themselves , and since most people don't bother with religion unless they get class features from it it leads to most PC's just worshiping one god.
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How is divorce handled in Golarion?
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>>54207207
>>54207164
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>>54207328
>Swallow huge chunks of different metals to bypass damage reduction.

UNGERMAW META!!!
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>>54207328
Oops, I did the numbers wrong, that's only 1 ton of rocks. Doing this with 2 tons nets you 160d6 damage.
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>>54207299
Thanks friend. I'm looking into that stuff now.
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>>54207317
Tbh, it's more repetitive than bad. Oaken Shield is a highly reliable 1st-level counter with no investment needed, and the 8th level stance is likely still amongst the highest DPR stances, even if the errata has nerfed it.
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>>54207317
It's spending too much time retreading ground that Primal Fury already covered and not enough time focusing on the things that make reach weapons distinct.

That said, it's still good if you pick and choose from it.
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>>54207358
Depends on the culture, but it's probably more of a legal thing.
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>>54207358
The woman takes half of everything the man produces, then and forever after, and earns the enmity of the village for being such a piece of shit husband, how dare he. The man becomes ostracized by his community even though the wife initiated it, loses his friends, and is seen as a failure until he eventually dies in despair or takes his own life. Meanwhile the woman, empowered by a sympathetic community and wealth, finds new love and new opportunities. Shelyn be praised.

In other words, just like real life.
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>>54207395
well, and Piercing Thunder also has the benefit of looking damn nice if you use a longspear with it as well. then again, that's just personal preferences talking.
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>>54207358
Erastil says no and so do dwarf gods, but it's probably more of a legal matter than anything else because apparently the renaissance era that Golarion is going through has the same mentality and culture as that of the modern society.
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>>54207362
>If you squint hard enough, you can see the artist actually included her left nipple
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>>54207417
>Shelyn be praised.
Nah, that's a Callistra thing.
>>54207453
I think that's shading or she has some huge fucking nipples.
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>>54207442
Shelyn canonically supports divorce, in fact the wording of her portfolio suggests she is slightly against marriage, seeing love as a thing that can and should fade, allowing new loves to be had.
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>>54207467
The fabric's raised up a bit around the shading, and from the size they're large, but nothing unusual and quite fitting for her breast type.
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>>54207467
>Nah, that's a Calistria thing

Seems to me like Calistria should have a hand in divorces, since the vast majority are built on suffering, backstabbing and petty revenge.
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>>54207511
Yeah.

Granted I think the "backstabbing" part is much, much more literal with her.
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If you consider that Pathfinder doesn't have a size category above Colossal except for Kaijus, to my knowledge, a level 12 Enlarged Half-Giant Ungermaw could devour the entire planet. No GM would okay that, obviously, but this thing interacts in weird ways with size categories if colossal is used as a catch-all for anything beyond Gargantuan.
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>>54207530

I thought she was more about prolonged and vindictive suffering than just stabbing people you hate to death. Like, a lot of weird shit involving wasps.
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>>54207358
Check out Inner Sea Gods for how certain gods feel about it. Otherwise, keep culture in mind and work from there.
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>>54207328
>>54207017
>>54207076


An optimized Tiefling Ungermaw would have the Bite attack racial trait.

Since ungermaw's ability improves the die type of existing bite attacks.
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>>54207560
She's both.

Divorce courts in the United States would be a feast of worship for her.
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>>54206814
More so you can learn what to do on the wedding night.
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>>54207547
But what would it look like to see a loli ungermaw swallow an adult human?
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>>54207068
Neither the android nor the alien nor the AI are ulfen. Your argument is invalid.
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>>54207608

Not much. The swallow whole transports the swallowed into a "Stomach Pocket Dimension". So it doesnt have a visual effect on the Ungermaw. unless you want it to
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>>54207619
She is though >>54207362
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>>54207564
>Keep culture in mind and work from there

Every major culture in the setting has the same views on things like marriage, age of consent, homosexuality and more. They're pretty much the same template with a cultural paint.

The only cultures that differ from this are either pet cultures or throwaway ones.
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>>54207608
If you bring size categories into it, a loli is likely small, so they'd have to be at least level 12. I'd probably say it's similar to Kirby, where there's just a vortex, since they don't actually seem to consume them, they just shove them into a pocket dimension. I'd say there's essentially a black hole at the back of their mouth, and when they activate it, it moves to in front of their mouth, so they can better shove somebody inside.
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>>54207655
I mean there's more to culture than just those things.
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>>54207643
Why is she blue?
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>>54207643
>Human
>Cyborg, total poser
>Hideous meatbag
>Not glorious immaterial information-waifu
You can keep her.
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>>54207674

its cold
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>>54207674
Chemicals iirc. Some experiment gone wrong.
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>>54207674
If I remember correctly she went into the final dungeon, was caught and nanites went to town on her with siccatite and shit, which cost her an arm and a leg, before she escaped.
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>>54207673
Well yeah, but I find it strange how the Ulfen have the same opinions on homosexuality as Chelaxians as Taldan as Kellids. Same on women's rights (Amiri's tribe were explicitly an outlier) or just about every other topic that gets threads accused of /pol/
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What's the most interesting fluff for Ulfen pfg?
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/pfg/ I can't into spellcasters that well.

Is it worth a trait to take Magical lineage to use shocking grasp w/ Intensified metamagic? This is for a bloodrager so spells per day is low and only starts at level 4.
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>>54207854
Bloodrager slots are wasted on damage spells, focus on self buffing and utility.
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>>54207854
>magical lineage for intensified shocking grasp

Thats what you do when you're a magus.
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>>54207870
>>54207882
What would you recommend for traits then?
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>>54207918
Anything that gives you a class skill you want
Reactionary
Anything flavorful
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>>54207831
Their methods for choosing a leader are pretty great, but the overall best fluff for them is quite simply how they feel like a powerful, aggressive people without quite crossing that threshold into either barbarism or unmitigated violence.
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I'm so very sorry


>>54207944
>>54207944
>>54207944
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>>54207961
You animal.
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>>54207961
I'll forgive you if you post thicc.
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>>54207990

you got it boss!
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>>54207275
The Bound Companion doesn't need summoning for what it is worth.
>>54207299
But yeah, you are pretty fucked if it dies. That's why I mostly use it for ranged support.
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>>54206478
Pick up war sphere with Battlefield Manipulation drawback and Position Rally, move as an immediate action.
Pick up warp sphere with Self-Only and Emergency Teleport to achieve the same effect.
Or to save spell points, haste yourself with the Time sphere.
Or take a level of incanter with Destruction specialization to get the ability to move 20 feet as a swift action a bunch of times a day.
The time and warp books will probably provide more ways to do it as well. Then you can be mystic assault with your two-hander all you like (or just use a bow).
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Anyone here see that new Aethera setting that had a successful kickstarter? Was anyone here a backer?
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