Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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We ever gonna get the fucking prices?

>>53460581
We've had them for a week.

Will Poxwalkers be worth using?

4" for a melee unit seems terrible. Sure they're kinda tough and can get extra units. Seems that'll hardly ever happen though, maybe they're just good for holding and contesting objectives?

>>53460581
WARHAMMER 40000: DARK IMPERIUM (ENGLISH) £95.00
WARHAMMER 40000 RULEBOOK (ENGLISH) £35.00
WH40K: TACTICAL OBJECTIVE CARDS (ENG) £8.00
SECTOR IMPERIALIS: OBJECTIVES £20.00
WARHAMMER 40000: COMMAND DICE £12.50
WARHAMMER 40000: WOUND TRACKERS £8.00
INDEX: XENOS 1 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: XENOS 2 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: CHAOS (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: IMPERIUM 1 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: IMPERIUM 2 (ENGLISH) £15.00
DARK IMPERIUM NOVEL (HB) £18.00
WARHAMMER 40000: COMBAT GAUGE £6.00
CITADEL DEATH GUARD GREEN SPRAY £11.75

>>53460608
Screening your more important units.

>>53460632
From melee?

Won't do much for ranged attacks. And you'll need to walk your advancing other guys slowly if you want these guys still ahead.

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Are plague marines playable in SW:A and Kill Team? I want to mix them with daemons for "normal" games but run solo in "smaller" ones

Marine player:
Start Collecting kits are the same as the Starter Kit!
Totally not forced guys!

What your 20 year old kits keep selling out even though they are old? Clearly it means marines are more popular.

>plasma guns only risk exploding if you overcharge them

How do you feel about this?

>>53460651
Do we know yet whether using your own troops for Cover is still a thing?

concatenate threads
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>>53460704
Decent trade off. The overcharged one is good for killing Marines but wasted on guards etc.

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>>53460556
>Not even a real boy
>Stills gets a model before Sanguinis

Question: Building an army... this key word shit.

So I can make an army of "Faction" keyword?

EG: Imperium faction key word.

I could have an HQ that is a Terminator Captain of Ultramarines

Troops that are 1 squad of Imperial Guard Veterans, 1 squad of marines, 1 squad of sisters of battle

Heavy that are Grey Knight Land Raiders

and Elites that are Admech something or other...


All because they share the faction key word "Imperium"?

>>53460673
Not plague marines specifically, but you can choose mark of nurgle for any marines in your kill-team, that pretty much makes them a plague marine, due to how much more durable they become.

>>53460704
I like it. I have a squad of plasma chosen, and I'm glad that it's now optional and I can play it safe, though it's also disappointing that my Combi-plasma terminators won't be ultra immune to the results.

>>53460677
Did you miss the entire conversation where I point out how stupid you were?

I listed 6 different 40k games that didn't focus on marines.

I then pointed out that Marines out sold every single other product GW ever made when they were released. They did so well they wrote it into 40k lore

>>53460736
Yes. It will be balanced out in bonuses you get. a Chapter bonus will be better than an Astartes bonus which is better than an Imperium bonys.

>>53460704
The concept is fine but the regular variant is too good. Should've been like what SWA has them, around Tau Pulse level for non-overcharge, and s7 ap-3 for charged version.

>>53460753
Ignoring outselling non marine products.

Marines are the CoD of miniatures, safe bet, nothing creative.

>>53460759
The overcharged is great at eating primaris marines.

Normal: 3+ wound, 1 damage.
Overcharged: 2+ wound, 2 damage (kills em)

>>53460775
GW are the biggest company in the entire industry even with the worst rules. Hard to argue with their Marine plan you know?

>>53460806
Doesn't make it less shit.

Onces you past your teenage years marines stop being fun.

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wew

>Primaris keep losing
2 wounds and 30" weapons and still get their ass handed to them?
I wanted to like this guys, I'm dont know what to think now.

>>53460742
Well, I hope that noone will be sad if I use them to proxy CSM but maybe I will just buy an extra DV box - I found a store selling them with start collecting price

>>53460806
Dnd is the biggest player in their market with shit rules.

Being first counts for a lot more than anything else.

>>53460834
Yes tits, but unless we have some less shitty quality it means very little.

>>53460859
I'd rather be first than last

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Manlets
When will they learn?

>>53460864
well at least it quells some fears vis-a-vis GW making 40k more kid friendly by kinda shadow-banning slaanesh

>>53460882
Primaris-are-taller-than-custodes fags BTFO

>>53460878
Poor girl of yours if any.

>>53460886
Anyone with half a brain knew that was false. It is a british company not an american one.

All in
>>53460515
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>>53460515

>>53460882
By 2050 we are going to have action figures if the size increase continues.

>>53460916
they did it for AoS

>>53460845
I wouldn't worry about proxies dude, I'd welcome someone playing Chaos Space Marines in Shadow War with actual plague marine models, since nurgle is all anyone plays, for good reason.

>>53460945
We can all agree AoS is kind of shit. It is neither WHF or Warmachine.
Just the worst of both.

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>>53460882
>Chad marines loosing in box set games and not the tallest
Just bend over and make this easy.

what is everyone's opinions on people who paint like shit? i paint like complete ass and I kind of feel bad when I play against someone who is an excellent painter.

has to look better than grey plastic though, right?

>>53461036
Depends.

>>53460945
>they did it for AoS
Yeah, that's why Slaanesh daemons have renown values in Skirmish tables

>>53460628
In a currency that matters please.

>>53461127
That is the one that matters.

Beside just convert the value to any of your third world money.

>>53460882
not that much taller compared to the legionnary. Are FW marines taller than regular marines ?

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fuck, people weren't kidding about the size of these primaris marines

>>53461204
No, in the case of plastic MK IV they're actually a bit shorter than MK VII marines.

>>53461227
>Emperor's finest
>already falling to Nurgle

>Ultramarines defeat a whole Hive Fleet by themselves
>Blood Angels and all their successors get BTFO by a single tendril and have to be saved by Bob and some daemons
Threadly reminder that Blood Angels players should be ashamed. Sanguinius's geneseed clearly causes incompetence.

>>53461329
>Imperial navy actually defeats the hive fleet
>Khorne daemons kill the tendril
No hogging the honor marines.

>>53460673

whoever is in charge of the studio painting team now needs hanging.

These new, cartoon looking ass colour schemes for the best part of five years now are trash

>>53461385
where have you been

>>53461036
I don't mind if someone looks they actually put some effort into it. Just following a Duncan tutorial will give you a tabletop army and it's totally paint by numbers.

>>53461395

away from 7th edition due to how cancer it is

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>>53461385
It's especially evident when you see similar models painted for FW.

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>>53460556
>weeb meme shit taking the place of duncan again
Jesus christ I hate you people. Take your japanese faggotry off this board already, Isn't it enough shitting up /pfg/?

Our lord and saviour Duncan doesn't deserve this.

>>53461464
This
Weebs are asking for the firing squad

>>53460791
Yeah and it's too good. We have basically plasma that is laughably better than it was. Non-overcharge should at the very least have less armor pen.

Everyone has seen the Mortarion model tease on youtube, right?

>>53460556
Am I the only one who's worried about the power-creep the Primaris are going to cause? We can't seriously believe that the Tau and Eldar writers won't retaliate with new, better Suits and some Eldar 'Ynnead super-warriors' to match them and we'll be back to square one except all the original elite units get pushed to 2nd-tier.

>>53461573
Primaris don't even seem that great.

>>53461511
Don't be so hard on space marines.
>>53461573
They cost like twice as much as a normie marine.

>>53461573
Are the Primaris marines even that strong?

>>53461573
They're in universe power creep but all their actual rules have been pretty fucking mediocre so far.
Eldar and Tau will probably still mulch them which if anything is going to seem even better when you're doing it with your old and unmodified guys.

>>53461573
You think they'll be allowed to get new super warriors.

Primaris are a result of models over fluff/need. They had some cool new space marines but they didn't wanna overwrite the old ones so they just made em 'buff marines'.

Honestly they should have just made them normal marines and allowed you to use old ones as they slowly phase out.

>>53461603
>Honestly they should have just made them normal marines and allowed you to use old ones as they slowly phase out.

They should have made the Primaris and all they're new unit just be Cawl making new toys (no gene fuckery needed) and Guilliman slowly returning Space Marines to Legion style organisation.

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>>53461596
>>53461603
I was more talking from a fluff perspective, ruleswise I'm well aware that they're not really OP and should've specified, but with all the 'and then the Primaris shat on the enemy' fluff we're about to get surely there's going to be retaliation.

>haven't bought any new stuff for years nor played for 3 years
>buy marine collector set

Why are the bases bigger?????

>>53461643
>collector set
What the fuck is this?

>>53461643
>collector set
???

>>53461677
>>53461688


I'd imagine he meant Start Collecting!

And marines are on 32mm bases now.

>>53461632
Oh i dont care about the fluff since the new thing is Bobby G saves the day from all the threats.

>>53461700
>start collecting
Oh, right.
I'm newfag - I thought they always were on 32mm

>>53461700
Shit, really?
>tfw all my old ultrasmurfs are not just marinelets but baselets

>>53461755
Mine too.

The twist is they're a new army...

>>53461811
top tier shitpost

>>53461397

yeah I've watched some of his stuff, I'm having fundamental problems though. Like how much paint to have on my brush and shit.

Oh well, might as well just keep on practicing. So many fucking IG to paint.

>>53461755
Yeah I got the start collecting box to get back into hobby with new stuff to add to my old. All the regular marines are on 32mm now. Which irritates me, a lot.

That means half my old army is on the wrong base

>>53460945
You do know they have a named character who is just a re-released old generic Sorcerer model but still who is actively seeking to release Slaanesh from its prison, and that the other Chaos Gods are watching to see what happens to it?

Slaanesh will probably bust free and start wrecking shit in AoS as soon as the new model line for Slaanesh is done, and we'll get a simultaneous release in 40K of new Daemons, Noise Marines, and other stuff.

>>53461961
There was rumor of Fulgrim soon too.

>>53461283
then all that insufferable memes about chadmarines and marinlets were unfounded ?
great

>>53462409
I mean they're still like 3/4 of a head shorter and a lot skinnier.

>>53461227
>>53461317
>Emperor's finest
>already falling to Nurgle
>excess is Slaanesh
>Totally not a phallic looking plasma incinerator

>>53460882
Custodes are the only Marines I like, but their fluff is gay and stupid and gay.

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>>53462864
What's wrong with them being the Emperors's finest of the fine fine finest?
Besides who needs good fluff when you have this much style?

>>53461036
I wonder about this too. I wouldn't say mine is horrible, but it's definitely not that great. I think people don't mind so much as long as you clearly tried.

>>53462864
All marine fluff is gay and stupid.
"Mu supa warrior wiv his massive manly designed body, massive manly gun and super special not! Mary sue weeb abilities". Not to mention the homo eroticism fluff.

>>53461385
God forbid the jovial god's soldiers who walk about with beerguts and huge smiles look cartoonish

>>53461036
Well that depends on how bad and what kind of bad.

If it's the usual garden variety kind of bad then I can usually ignore it, though I would probably still rather look at an army that was just sprayed white.
If it's horrifyingly offensively bad hen that's of course a very different situation. If it's a badly painted Forge World army then that's just the worst though.

>>53460628
120-ish bucks for the starter kit?

Combined with 20% FLGS discount?

I'm getting two holy fuck

>>53461847
Never dunk it in and aim to have less.

Hoard armies can look lazy, it's fine to do basic schemes. most important is armour and clothes, basecoat, wash, and a minor layer is fine for everything

>>53462972
>implying the other factions aren't just as bad
Don't kid yourself, 40k is just bad writing all around.

I'm genuinely considering starting a DKoK army to paint them up as Wehrmacht because I'm just that much of a wehraboo

Memes aside, how good/bad IS forgeworld resin? Is it actually worth it to buy entire armies from them?

>>53461127

WARHAMMER 40000: DARK IMPERIUM (ENGLISH) £95.00
WARHAMMER 40000 RULEBOOK (ENGLISH) £35.00
WH40K: TACTICAL OBJECTIVE CARDS (ENG) £8.00
SECTOR IMPERIALIS: OBJECTIVES £20.00
WARHAMMER 40000: COMMAND DICE £12.50
WARHAMMER 40000: WOUND TRACKERS £8.00
INDEX: XENOS 1 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: XENOS 2 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: CHAOS (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: IMPERIUM 1 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: IMPERIUM 2 (ENGLISH) £15.00
DARK IMPERIUM NOVEL (HB) £18.00
WARHAMMER 40000: COMBAT GAUGE £6.00
CITADEL DEATH GUARD GREEN SPRAY £11.75

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Assuming everything stays relatively the same in regards to in faction balance, is there really any point in taking grey knight strike squads now that all units score and terminators are better troop taxes?

Also I'm desperately hoping psycannons become heavy 4, even power armor psilencers are looking pretty decent now

The next Primarch for Chaos is Angron, then Fulgrim, btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E415aFoSDcY

Morty getting naughty.

>>53463222
Morty's a faggot, when are we getting more cool primarchs?

>>53463255
Sorry to say but Fulgrim is probably next.

>>53463222
Thought he was gonna say 'Nurrrrgles.....AIDSSSSss....."

>>53463268
No. Angron is. Part of Warzone: Armageddon.

>>53463268
When Fulgrim is confirmed i am going to masturbate to it so hard that i'll make even Slaanesh blush.

What was that multilegged fat model? Did we ever see it? It's in one of the pictures fighting Ultrasmurfs. It's like a fat caterpillar. What is it?

>>53463222
Was that the Nightbringer?

>>53463289
So you're going to slowly rip your dick off over the course of 10,00 years?

>>53462864
Is it even possible to make a group of Custodes with a tolerable fluff or are they doomed to special snowflakeness?

>>53463348
That's the plan~

>>53463360
How the fuck are they special snowflakey? They're pretty fucking explained. How is Guardians special snowflakey?

>>53463360
They're to Grey Knights as Grey Knights are to other marines.

>>53462864
Custodes aren't marines.

Who ready for age of plasma spam here??????

Hold onto ur butts

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGyR5n_3kIg

IT LOOKS SO STUPID
I NEED IT

>>53463405
Last time I checked, dozens of Grey Knights didn't get murdered by a couple space clowns.

>>53463405
I don't know, despite being golden banana men Custodes feel oddly humble compared to a lot of Grey Knight fluff, like they're just doing their jobs.

It's probably just because there aren't really any Custodes characters outside of Constantin Valdor and the rest are nameless and faceless.

Opinions on silver Custodes?

>>53460835
I probably wouldn't make them the bulk of my force.

>>53463446
To be fair, the author was just wanking over Eldar. Secondly, they never were said to have died, just been put down. The fluff says it's near impossible for any weapon to kill them outright.

>>53463455
The fluff in the final Beast Arising series literally says GK's are best best best ever best and bester than even Custodes.

>>53463444
It's basically 40k leviathan

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>>53463461
Cool but not as cool as black Custodes.

>>53463487
ah yes the BBC

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>>53460882
>That monopose on the NuMarine

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>>53463431
Implying that's a bad thing

Plasma hottest weaponry there is

>>53463487
>>blacked.jpeg

exorcists>grey knights

>>53463487
>letting the black Custodes guard your vaults
Risky move.

>>53463479
I already have a leviathan for 40k

I will be buying one of these to fight along side it that plasma cannon looks like its going to be nasty

Also a fucking assault cannon for the CCW

Why can't they just be called bloat-drones?

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Seems he still has some sort of pistol.
Daemon six shooter.

>>53463444
Mech Warrior Dragon

Also 2nd time they ripped off Mech lately...

>her lance-mate disintegrated in an eruption of superheated light.

From Fall of Cadia

>Lance-mate in a knight titan

>>53463487
I basecoated in Leadbelcher and I think it looks really cool

It's really weird, because there's so much detail on it, it actually creates it's own shadow too

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Alright so for a while now I've been planning on building an army of heretek Admech/Skitarii who stumbled across the "Omnissiah is actually a space dragon" thing and ended up becoming a Tech Cult who worship the Omnissiah's chosen children (who they believe are Necrons, thanks to an encounter between the Overlord of the Tomb World they end up waking up and their Magos, which may have evolved some Mindshackle Scarabs.)

Problem is, with how allies is looking like it's going to work in 8th, I don't think I'll be able to do this anymore.

So tell me /tg/:

If someone came down to your FLGS with an army of Necrons backed up by Skitarii/Admech units converted to be more Necron-y, and wanted to play that shit as a regular battle forged army, would you play them?

Similar question: would you play someone who wanted to do the same thing with Tau and Gue'vesa allies?

>>53463444
Depending on rules and price I might get one. But its feet look a little too small from this angle.

The powerfist it has is glorious though. Imagine that sucker painted red because Crimson Fists ... hnnnnng

>>53463513
>The scope on the end of the gun

So magnetic accelerator coils must be cool and comfy to the cheek huh? Do you have to lay the gun across your chest to get the angle right? No wonder 1 in 6 users die.

If I remember correctly, theres a Force Org chart that's just an HQ and elites, right?

How does stuck in combat work in 8th? -Does it apply to vehicles now that they can all punch with their wheels?

>>53463571
I'll play anything that not just meta-faggotry.

>>53463571
>If someone came down to your FLGS with an army of Necrons backed up by Skitarii/Admech units converted to be more Necron-y, and wanted to play that shit as a regular battle forged army, would you play them?

Yes.

>would you play someone who wanted to do the same thing with Tau and Gue'vesa allies?

Yes

Though both are only on the condition that the conversions are well done.

>>53463571
nigga there's 3 types of play, two of which probably don't give a fuck about what you field

>>53460556
Alpha legion anything, when?

>>53463172
>Not painting their coats sky blue
Merde

>>53463581
That's the SM version, the scope is a camera.

>>53463587
There is no stuck in.

>>53463571
The same answer to any of these kind of questions.

Yes, if the force fully painted, and possibly converted. and actually WELL painted goes a long way.

If it's a bunch of grey shit lined up a mess on the table-top, people will have a problem and not know what their looking at

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>>53463583

>>53463587
Some units (wyches so far) can hold [Infantry] in combat, otherwise anyone can walk out, at the cost of their shooting and assault phase.

>>53463544
The new naming scheme is [adjective] [noun][noun]

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>>53463601
>non cult CSM
>getting anything
>ever

>>53463635
Hmmmm.
Wonder if I should just make a terminator force to bide time with and use while I build up a properly converted traitor guard force.

>>53463635
My dream of assault trukks tanking my opponents is dashed.

>>53463642
Mediocre Primaris Boltermen

>>53463601
There will be rules for them.

Just use regular SM models.

>>53463117
>implying there is any faction other than our glorious homo marine overlords
But seriously, marines are shoehorned into everything.

>>53463550
Mortarion has an energy pistol called "The Lantern"

>>53463544
Much harder to copyright.

>>53463514

Purity Seals never look good on cosplays

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>>53463611
Kriegers are the beautiful love children of WWI Germany and France, it can go either way.

It's strange that not all blast weapons get +d6 more shots if you shoot unit with 10+ models

If I buy a dark imperium box, is it possible to sell all the models for what you paid and get a free rulebook? I'm pretty sure everything in it will sell fast, it's just whether it can be priced right to break even or within 20-30 bucks.

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>>53463688
Really?

>>53460734
This makes me happy in all the right ways.
No more hamfisted attempts at kitbashing when I can just have the official model.
Also I love that I can even call it The Official Model. Cheers for the recognition, GW.

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Any word on death cult assassins?
Will crusader henchmen work the same way as before?

>>53463714
There's a chance you might even be able to make a profit doing that.

Should I still apply base if the primer is of the same colour as base?

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>>53461385
Yeah, they should go back to the old, realistic art style.

>>53463716
Fuck me that looks good.

>>53463414
How?

>>53463729
I'm in NZ, so I doubt I'll make a profit, but I'm running some numbers and it seems pretty close. Surely I could get 25 sheepbux for each unit in there? Lumping in the characters of each faction as one listing.

>>53463691
I love those coats in blue so much, and I feel it's good to highlight a little of the French influence in their design, since the German influence is certainly quite noticeable
Kriegers are great though, I can't tell you about FW resin though since Ching Ping sorted me out

>>53463768
What do you mean how? They aren't marines in the same way that Eversor Assassins aren't marines.

>>53463444
>>topic edition

>>53460734
is it a shoop, or did they really give him a forehead like frankenstein?

>>53463803
this desu

>>53463826
>tfw to intelligent to wear helmets
oh its real, check the whcommunity site

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>>53463461
>>53463487
Do custodes even have even have alt color schemes?

>>53463731
I dunno about others, but Abbadon black has a slightly different finish to Chaos black primer, so probably worthwhile.

>>53463863
He replies, quoting a post with an image of an alternate colour scheme.

>>53463826
I'm hoping seeing the model in resin greyscale rather than fully painted will sway my opinion. Forgeworld painters are pretty terrible.

When did Imperial Guard get renamed?

>>53463863
>quotes alt colour scheme
>asks if they have alt colour schemes
Well, I guess it's not your fault that your mother did all that cocaine when she was pregnant with you.

>>53461127

WARHAMMER 40000: DARK IMPERIUM (ENGLISH) $160.00
WARHAMMER 40000 RULEBOOK (ENGLISH) $60.00
WH40K: TACTICAL OBJECTIVE CARDS (ENG) $12.50
SECTOR IMPERIALIS: OBJECTIVES $35.00
WARHAMMER 40000: COMMAND DICE $20.00
WARHAMMER 40000: WOUND TRACKERS $12.50
INDEX: XENOS 1 (ENGLISH) $25.00
INDEX: XENOS 2 (ENGLISH) $25.00
INDEX: CHAOS (ENGLISH) $25.00
INDEX: IMPERIUM 1 (ENGLISH) $25.00
INDEX: IMPERIUM 2 (ENGLISH) $25.00
DARK IMPERIUM NOVEL (HB) £18.00
WARHAMMER 40000: COMBAT GAUGE $10.00
CITADEL DEATH GUARD GREEN SPRAY £11.75

I pulled the prices from Bell of Lost Souls. These are the prices they've gotten from multiple retailers. Any time they didn't have a price to give, I just left it in pounds.

You're welcome.

>>53463740
>old smurfs logo so round it almost looks Tau

>>53463897
6th ed.

>>53463863
There are three styles only, Gold is the standard, the top 300 who never leave the Emperor's side wear silver and the one wearing black there is one of the ones that guards the secret vaults on Terra.

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>>53460734

>chapter master Dan Aykroyd

>>53463571
Yes, if they are painted.

My only real gripe with novel armies like that is when they are barely painted beyond undercoating and base colours. Shade and layer first and then we can play our flavourful armies

my admech worship the necrons too
but with no mindshackles needed

>>53460886

Maybe they didn't like how people reacted for AoS so they're keeping Slaanesh in 40k.

>>53463316
Guesses are that it's an updated beast of nurgle.

>>53463979
And Slaanesh isn't even entirely gone from AoS

the elves are milking Slaanesh for elf souls and Slaanesh daemons and followers are very much still around in the lore

i want to get into 40k but every army looks so fuckin get cool AAAAAAAAA

>>53463316
Leakers tell us it's some character called a Grand Cultivator of Nurgle.

>>53463910
Anyone know why?

Intellectual property bollocks?

>>53463216
>Assuming everything stays relatively the same in regards to in faction balance
Everything points to that not being the case, have you paid attention at all?

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>>53463891
>>53463900
I figured it was a lazy shoop from people making Your Dudes out of things that don't really make any sense having Your Dudes made from them. It's not like that shit is very hard to do. People shooped Guilliman gold so they could masterbate to the Emperor.

>>53463919
Alright, so it's a rank insignia and not lost founding successor chapter bs.

>>53463571

Your army will be perfectly legal for Open Play (because everything is).

It will probably be legal for Narrative Play if you can find the right scenario or make one.

Only Matched Play might created a problem for you, and even then, if you aren't taking into tourneys, all you're really doing is playing Open Play and borrowing some of the Matched mechanics. Only an extreme autist would deny you, especially if your forces were painted and converted.

>>53464020
Join the Admech, brother. Praise the Omnissiah!

>>53464034
Yes. They couldn't copyright Imperial Guard for obvious reasons.

>>53463904
>95 brit-bucks
>160 ameri-bucks

I hate import fees.

>>53464024
>>53464005
Thanks lads.

>>53464020

Yeah but which one looks THE COOLEST?

>>53463723
Why hamfist it when you can buy old legit Forgeworld shoulder pads, or even shapeways shoulderpads and baconfist it instead?

I want to do some plague doctor inspired stuff for the upcoming death guard stuff, does anyone know where i can get some good beak/bird related bits to convert spess marines?

>>53464020
Flick through lexicanium and base it in the lore you like.
Be aware your dudes probably wont look as good as the pics you see online initially, especially if you pick one of the harder armies to paint.

>>53460734
Ron Perlman?

>>53464071
Fuck off burger. That means it's going to be like 250 kiwibux when our exchange rate last time I checked was fucking close to 1:1

>>53463979
Maybe they knew that the plot point for the elves in Fantasy wasn't the same as 40k.
When has GW really cared what neckbeards thought when it came to lore?

>>53464100
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!

>>53463919
I don't think they're very secret if you can literally find them by following the color coded guards.

>>53463904
What the fuck is a battle gauge? A 10 dollar ruler? Kek.

>>53464051
>lost founding successor chapter bs
What part of Custodes != Marines are you missing?
They are an entirely separate organization, they aren't even created the same way.

>>53464111
>Secret vaults?
>Oh yeah just follow those guys with the black armour

>>53464063
tempting! what's their play style like? my only concern is that the lore might not be that comprehensive because they're new army but i don't know shit so maybe not

>>53464111
You are implying they actually travel away from their posts.

>>53463277

Yeah given that "warzone" Baal is already over before the edition even starts, I wouldn't put too much faith on Armageddon being particularly active either.

>Imperials being pushed back to the final hives
>Orks prepare for last push
>Suddenly, Indomidus Crusade, en route to Baal, decides to make a slight detour
>Blows Orks the fuck out
>Ghaz flees by teleporta vowing revenge
>Imperial forces scour rest of planet, find all the Orks in the south mysteriously missing
>At the south pole is a dormant warp rift and billions of Ork skulls piled in 8 heaps

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>>53464114
Pretty much

>>53464111
And who outside of the Custodes do you think actually knows anything about Custodes colour codes?
Besides if you met one you'd already be dead.
Unless it's Eldar fluff wank

>>53464114
It's a 1'' broad stick that you can use to determine if a unit is close enough to do the CC. If you can place the combat gauge between the bases of two models, the distance is more than an inch and no melee happens.

>>53464137
They walk/run around and shoot weird guns.

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>>53463444

It's basically an Imperial Deff Dread. Same design.

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>>53464125
>lost founding successor chapter/regiment/dynasty/hive fleet/sept/klan/craftworld equivalent bs

Otherwise, yes, thanks for agreeing.

>>53464154
>>53464161
Does this wonder of modern technology come in the starter set?

>>53464114
>A 10 dollar ruler?

That's pretty much how much I had to pay after shipping for my movement template from GF9...

>>53464176
They are literally becoming Orks.

The Primaris are just Nobz.

>>53464194
>I need to read up on my lore
Yes, you do.

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>>53464176
No it's a Leviathan's retarded brother.

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>>53464114

It's basically a speed ruler, so you don't have to find the various numbers on the rulers to do quick shit like check 2" coherency and 6" movement.

>>53464114

It's a 40k version of this thing.

One edge is 3 inches long. Another is 2 inches. Another is 1 inch. And the smaller edge, created by the cutout, is 1/2 inch.

The idea, as in Age of Sigmar, is that it's used to measure common close-range distances that might be awkward with the tape measure, or just save the time of opening the tape measure. You can immediately check if you're within 3" of an objective (or unit for heroic intervention or pile-in), 2" of another model for unit coherency, 1" of a model for close combat, or 1/2" for whatever that's relevant for, just by comparing to the relevant edge of this hunk of plastic.

It's not very important.

>>53464176
That's impressive, specially considering there isn't really such a thing as Ork 'design'

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>>53464224

Forgot my goddamn pic.

>>53464137
They're pretty flexible really. You can do anything from hordes of shooty cyborgs to vehicles to stompy robots.

They've been around in the lore for decades they just haven't had rules until recently.

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>>53464198

>GW doing something to benefit the consumer

>>53463961
My nigga.

Any chance at some pictures so I can blatantly copy you, I mean for inspiration?

And yeah the Mindshackling I'm thinking is only going to be for the Magos. He's a pretty smart guy, so I don't see him blindly trusting some Xenos who told him that his TechnoGod was actually a Necron Space Dragon.

The basic bitch Skitarii are brainwashed through good old fashioned propaganda, tho.

>>53460556
So I've noticed that the detachments are restricted by faction. Does that mean my IG, Custodes, and Space Marines can all be part of the same detachment?

>>53464114
>>53464224
>>53464233
This stupid fucking thing should be renamed to a cuckold gauge so that you can automatically tell that the person who owns and uses it is a beta cuckold who probably just finished prepping Tyrone before going to his FLGS to play a game.

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>>53464137
>lore might not be that comprehensive because they're new army
They're a new army but they've been in the lore since pretty much day zero, there is fucktons of lore to draw on.

Also their playstyle is either hordes of dudes or fuckhuge robots generally.

>>53464233
>>53464224
>>53464221
>People will actually buy this and a tape measure too

What will this save me over the course of a game? Like, 20 seconds all up? Who doesn't carry around their tape anyway on their trousers? Fucking plebs.

>>53464277
Yes but you might get less stratagems since they're all Imperium so the IG, Custodes, SM stratagems might be out for that army.

>>53464285
>Be builder
>Always carry around my tape on my toolbelt
>Get into 40k
>First game in store everyone pulls out their little cuck tapes and rulers
>Slap my thicc, beaten the shit out of builders tape on the table

Alpha as fuck man.

>>53464297
That's a plus. I really just need something to run as an HQ for my bananas.

>>53464325
You best be playing Iron Warriors.

>>53464325
Iktf my man
Roofer myself

>>53464325
>oh look the tool came to play

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>>53464369
Why would he play the second-best builders?

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>>53464347
>I really just need something to run as an HQ for my bananas.
It's a shame HH is staying in 7th otherwise you could use Ixion Hale or the soon to be made Constantin Valdor model.
They might still both end up with 40k rules though.

>>53464296

Depends on how assaulty your army is.

If you never need to worry about whether you're within 3" of something, laugh at the cucks who buy it. I'm running Necrons, so I plan to just stick to my old Munitorum skull tape measure, since I'm just gonna shoot all day err day.

If you actually need to worry about short distances a lot because your army depends on assault, it's still overpriced but you'll buy it anyway eventually because it's a lot quicker easier than extending and angling a tape measure every time. It's not saving 20 seconds per game, it's saving more like 10-20 seconds per measurement.

>>53464296
I like the AoS one more because it's at least a solid piece of metal, but as you say you really are paying over the odds when you can have a measuring tape locked at 6" and measure most of everything with ease.

>>53464137
They play as a very shooty moving gunline with some decent counter-assault options and a comparative lack of heroes, although both the Tech-Priest Dominus and Belisarius Cawl are fucking amazing at what they do, which is pretty much anything you want them to. They have some cool army-wide mechanics that let you specialize turn-by-turn into choppy or shooty, but at the expense of the other if you go too far. Kataphrons are devastating but slow and a little squishy shooty weapons platforms, Kastelans will take hits all day every day (I once had two of them tank literally everything a 2kpt Guard army had, including a Baneblade and Knight Crusader, and only lost the two boops) but sadly Electro-Priests are terrible.

The basic Skitarii infantry range from best in the game bar NONE to good, Peltasts chew everything to hell and Vanguard shoot better than Grey Knights, the Dunecrawler tanks are mini-Vindicators and Dragoons and Infiltrators are blisteringly fast anti-tank and anti-horde melee. All of those shoot better than Primarchs, BS7 Neutron bombardments are pure sex.

So far we lack a flyer or a transport, though, which stings a little, but we may get something in the future at least, and we seem to suit this new edition down to the ground anyway.

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>Primaris Hellblasters are really good at killing Primaris
>3+ to hit, 2+ to wound, no save, does 2 wounds to fully kill with supercharge
>if you have captain nearby you can reroll 1s

Its like poetry, it rhymes.

>>53464396
Best builders, they were unappreciated geniuses. Fists are idiots. Their primarch doubly so.

>>53463728
anyone

>>53464408
Seeing as Talons of the Emperor are important enough to be put on the cover of one of the books but SoB aren't I expect we'll get some kind of HQ.

Given the core rules seem to be removing Allied Status, if allies are still a thing could you not take a whole bunch of those -1CP Dedicated Transports and load Skitarii into Chimeras? Might be fun, even at the expense of rerolls, and I guess you could use the HQ/Elite FoC and get some Inquisiton Enginseer/Servitor packs if you want to keep things robed and metal and keep your CP.

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>>53464449
>So far we lack a flyer or a transport, though
If Fires of Cyraxus ever comes out we should get two.

>>53464464
Or, you could take a normal marine with a normal plasma gun and get the same effect without risking your 40 point model dying on a 1.

>>53464442

Yeah but it costs about a third of the Age of Sigmar one, so at least there's that.

It may just be a piece of plastic but the price is commensurately lower.

>>53464490

Guillimarines and DG are the main focus for rule leaks.
You'll have to wait until the Imperial Agents Faction-focus.

>>53464504
they get a 6+ though

>>53464472
>t. has no special characters

>>53464499
Triaros is perhaps a little overkill unless you have 20 Peltasts hanging around and need to close to 30" range for some reason, but I can see the Macro being useful.
Load in some Kataphron Plasma Destroyers and a Magos, roll up, get out, activate Reroll Shooting 1s and unload 6D3 S8 AP-4 D2 shots into some poor unit, and fire whatever the Macrocarid ends up armed with at another one.

So... Is Bellisarius Cawls line (actually giving good shit outside of the cult) going to divide Admech or is it going to act as a wakeup call to remind the cogboys they should serve the Imperium instead of leeching off resources and dicking over everyone else?

>>53464296
It maybe ain't worth $10 depending on what $10 is worth to you, but as a contractor I can tell you that having a specialized tool for the right task is useful. That's why gap measures exist in the first place. Don't even have to be a GW one, I got some cheap shims that'll do the trick just fine.

Besides, I don't feel like being this >>53464325 fag with the noisy as fuck tape measure knocking models over because I want senpai to notice me.

>>53463919
Do those who were formally Companions still wear silver? I ask because the leader of my dudes was a Companion who got the shit kicked out of him on the Vengeful Spirit and since then basically wanders the halls of the Palace and occasionally vanishing to go murder heretics on Terra with his buds.

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>>53463222
>dont even show the model

I got fuckin blue balls here

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>>53464496
>Electro Priests hiding in a Chimera or even a Rhino

Hmmm. Wonder if that would enough to make them worth taking.

ADMECH TRANSPORTS FUCKING WHEN

WHY DOES THE FACTION THAT LITERALLY BUILDS ALL THE IMPERIUMS VEHICLES HAVE ACCESS TO LITERALLY NO VEHICLES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53464573
I sure hope so, would be nice to see a split between the adeptus mechanicus and the ineptus cogfappus.

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>>53464595
It got leaked a bit ago.

Surprised you didn't see it?

Spoilers: Its ok I guess.

>>53464296
>20 seconds all up?

You try playing a horde army with max coherency and spacing/moving all that shit. Every fucking turn.

>>53464449
>>53464499
With 8th, if you're willing to lose out on Admech-specific stratagems, couldn't you just take any <Imperium> transport?

>>53464499
FoC will never come out, anon. Not now that FW has its own major game system.

>>53464285
>getting this mad over someone buying dumb accessories

Sounds like you're the real cuck.

>>53463577

I will admit, Crimson Fists have a great color scheme, especially for anything that has a prominent fist weapon.

Shit, paint a Striking Scorpion Exarch with a Scorpion's Claw in Crimson Fist colors, it probably wouldn't be too shabby.

>>53464651
They've clearly show it to be coming soon, besides it was almost certainly delayed for 8th ed.

>>53463803
So what are they then just super humans?

>>53464696
Superer humans.

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>>53464621
MFW it turns out Cawl is a repentant Kelbor-Hal.

>>53464043

In the case of grey knights, like how? Strike squads are shittier purifiers or slower interceptors no matter what. they all share the same weaponry, so that can't really change that much.

The only thing they could do to change them would be to give them a drastic points cut.

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>>53464595

>>53464696
Yes, they're each a unique masterpiece of genetic manipulation not like those standardized and mass produced marines.

>>53464619
Goddamn Electro-Priests are such shit models. They don't fit the admech aesthetic at all.

"Hail the coming of Nurgles AAAAAIIIDDDDSSS Age..."

https://youtu.be/E415aFoSDcY

>>53464692
They've clearly shown it to come out soon for the last two years or so. I'd not hold my breath.

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>>53463444
>the standard-size sarcophagus peeking out of the torso
I love boxnoughts

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>>53464782

>>53463444
>just a boxnought with longer legs and a beer belly
I'm disappointed. Contemptor still best dreadnought.

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>>53463222
>video released on the 27th
>3x9=27
>9 is Tzeentch's sacred number
>3 is significant to Nurgle
>don't even get to see any of the model

shots fired by GW

Does anyone actually like Lorgar? I can't even bring myself to have any sympathy or understanding for him.

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>>53464802
he's all tucked in ready for a bed-time story

>>53464755
I see them like DEldar, senpai.

Wracks and Kabalite Warriors are extremely different, but still on the same side.

Electro-priests are the same way. They're crazy Admech warrior-monks/star wars fanboys who are a small, mostly separate part of their greater faction.

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Will Iron Hands accept Primaris space marines? I cant see them wanting to cut parts off and glue on cybernetics.

>>53464807
i think its better that they didnt make it like all smooth and shit.

>>53464835
There might be a Word Bearers player somewhere among us. If he exists he's as quiet as the Guard players.

>>53464835
After First Heretic I completely understood him. He still sucks though.

>>53464838

>You have been visited by the Redemptor Dreadnought of comfy sleeps
>Good dreams and death to heretics will come, but only if you post "EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE" in this thread

>>53464870
EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE

>>53464870
EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE

>>53464870
EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE

>>53464870
EVEN IN DEBT I STILL SURF

>>53464870
EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE

Any idea how to use the Mawkrusha in 40k? AoS has some amazing Ork models but not all of them have obvious 40K analogies.

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>>53464870
EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SURF

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>>53464870
>EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE

>>53464838
Imperial Fist gonna love this new type of dreadnought

>Even in death, I am fortified in this position

>>53464867
First Heretic is what caused me to completely lose any sort of sympathy for him. Seriously, his entire character is
>waaaaaah
>I, a fucking demigod, can't be held responsible for my actions because my feewees got hurt
>i have literally no backbone and will allow ANYONE to push me around and influence me

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>>53464835
>>53464855
>tfw favorite primarch and legion are wb
>hate daemon summoning because free models are dumb
>posessed have absolutely horrible models but the thought of an all daemon army using only the CSM codex sounds really fun
>guilliman comes out
>all about the ultramarines
>surely the word bearers will be the star and not the black legion because of the word bearer versus ultramarines background right?
>no
>thousand sons versus ultramarines and space wolves
>the space wolf bit makes sense
>oh, new starter with ultramarines versus chaos?
>time for word bearers, right?
>nope death guard now
>mfw

>>53464870
EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE

>>53460556
So I haven't seen it in the leaks, but can we charge from Deep Strike now? I know we can from transports.

>>53464895
Bloodthirster?

>>53464870
EVEN IN SERVICE I STILL DIE

>>53464926
Yes.

Gotta roll a 9'' charge though.

>>53464895
Big Squiggoth? They're about the right size IIRC.

>>53464895
Well in 8th it'll make a decent deff dread for Snakebitez, since everything has wounds and shit

Ironjawz brutes make good nobs or meganobz, i'm gonna get some for sure

>>53464912
His adoptive father isn't really "anyone". And he did not have anything close to that second one.

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>>53464870

>>53464753
damn Morty looks fat

>>53464926

Yes - just look at the Lord of Contagion. Have to make a 9" charge but yes.

>>53464919
What do you like about Lorgar?

>>53464927
Hmm, thats pretty cool. Too bad squiggoths are gone..

>>53460608
Mostly place holders and I expect ablative wounds in melee. They'll survive most things fairly well so you can also keep them as an active threat on the enemy's flanks.

They won't win you any battles, but they'll reduce your opponents ability to maneuver and likely soak up some shots that your real units would have to eat otherwise.

>>53464020

do what >>53464063 says and join us in praising the Omnissiah

>>53464912
Monarchia was pretty hamfisted and uncalled for considering the Emperor had never raised the issue with him Lorgar beforehand. I still agree with your post.

>>53464940
>And he did not have anything close to that second one
His entire character arc is ''T-This totes isn't my fault, g-guise, m-muh truth, m-muh destiny''. Seriously, his most famous line is him denying any malice or responsibility on his part.

>>53464936
MFW I deepstrike my Venerable Contemptor, fire off my assault cannon and then fist a Primaris command squad to death turn one.

>>53464936
You need to be within 1" to enter combat.

So does that mean you need a 8 or 9" charge?

>>53464851

Probably. It'll be interesting to see how different chapters react. They've said some are entirely new and made from Primaris, others incorporate them to varying degrees, and some treat them with suspicion, foregoing including any or only allowing them sparsely.

But as for the 1st Founding loyalists and notable second-founding chapters, they're probably going to be hugely inclusive though not entirely all Primaris.

>>53464972
Monarchia was the opposite of everything The Emperor stood for and it disturbed him deeply.

the omnissiah is a whole c'tan imprisoned under mars by the emperor

>>53464939
Oh dang, I can use them as a wagon with a rolla! I forgot rollas are big ass melee weapons now.

>>53464978
>mfw I deepstrike a Trygon backed up by 30 genestealers then rip literally anything they death in melee to death turn 1
>mfw genestealers will probably get to reroll charge range

>>53460608

The entire point of them is to basically take a blob of 20 or two blobs and just move them across the table. If they get into combat they can wear you down, if you shoot at them awesome, you aren't shooting my other dudes.

>>53464984
>Not this again

You have to be more than 9 inch away when you deep strike. So for example 9.1 inch.

If you roll 8 inch for the charge, you move 8 inch closer, so 9.1 inch minus 8 is 1.1 inch. More than an inch away, so no close combat, meaning a failed charge.

>>53464990
Then he should have said something. It's like if your dad doesn't want you to be a painter so one day out of the blue he just takes your favourite piece of art and burns it. Like, maybe have a talk first.

>>53464984
9". Being exactly 1" away (because you can only appear exactly 9" away from them, no closer) is not within 1".

>>53464984

You have to deploy MORE than 9" away so even at 9.1" you need to roll a 9 to charge.

>>53464984
Deep Strike is OVER 9" away so you need to roll a 9

Without that extra 1" range for charges now it would have been a 10

>>53464984
i dunno you do the math
you need to deepstrike FURTHER away than 9'', you get a 1'' melee range, how much do you need to roll to be WITHIN 1'' now?

>>53465022
>>53465024
>>53465025
>>53465029
>>53465035
lmao

>>53465023
Some sources say Big E did tell him to stop, but that he was unaware of just how far Lorgar had gone. Your analogy doesn't really work either, maybe if you slacked heavily on your work because of painting and your work was crucial to your father and painting was somehow completely ruining it.

>>53465055
Lorgar himself claims the Emperor never brought it up.

>>53465092
Lorgar would have to be INCREDIBLY retarded to hang out with his father and be indoctrinated into his ideology yet somehow miss the whole ''religion is the worst thing ever'' part.

>>53465107
He wasn't indoctrinated into his ideology.

He had his own.

>Rogue Trader lasted 7 years
>2nd lasted 5
>3rd lasted 6
>4th lasted 4
>5th lasted 4
>6th lasted 2
>7th lasted 3

How long until 9th? Sometime next year?

>Cawl comes back
>gets caught up in a bunch of fighting
>sees a bunch of plasma guns explode
>walks up to a plasma gunner
>"Turn that shit down, nigga. There's a little nob on the left there"
>for 10k+ years, people thought that exploding guns were the norm
>turns out the STC default was max power for coil calibration

>>53465127
Going by the difference between 6th and 7th the time between editions is increasing again. So 4 years after now.

>>53465127
Apparently it will be updated yearly, yes

>>53465023
>Then he should have said something.
>It's like if your dad doesn't want you to be a painter so one day out of the blue he just takes your favourite piece of art and burns it.

No, it's more like you dad hating faggots, and doesn't want his son to be a faggot, and never shuts up about how much he hates faggots, in fact he hates faggots so much he establishes a political party all about hating faggots, which goes out most nights to set fire to faggot clubs and beat up faggots.

Then you show up with Jamal and tell your dad you're in love and there's nothing you enjoy more in life than having your backdoor battered by the bbc.

Then, when you wake up a few days later in hospital, you blame your dad for not being clear enough about where he sat on the whole 'faggot' issue, then throw a tantrum and destroy human civilisation, dooming your species to extinction and perpetual torment by diabolical gods.

That's what it's like.

>>53464835
Imagine if all your life, you've raised Catholic. And than later, you grow up to be literally Jesus, and go as far as to conquer your civil war torn homeworld, and spread, love, peace and religion in gods name.

Than, one day, God comes down, and says "Good work son, im here to take you beyond the stars to spread my word." Than, you ask god about prophecy and religious shit, and all he does is sort of scratch the back of his neck and cough, but thats okay, your going around rebuilding the universe and spreading the word, and making things generally better. You even write a book about why god is so cool, and so great, and you teach your sons all about it, while you help build up worlds to better serve god.

Than, 25 years later, God comes down to you on a planet you rebuilt out of the blue, and tells you he's not god, that every thing you believe in is dumb, and gods aren't real, religion is dumb, and than has your brother blow up the entire dam planet you worked hard on building right in you and your face.

Than your actual dad comes by, and tells you about these OTHER gods, who are totes gods, and want to help you out. So you go out to these gods, and they basically whip you into shape, making you even better, and telling you the fundamentals of the universe.

And despite your best attempts to have everyone of your brothers come together to throw off your not-god dad, half of then tell you to fuck off, 1/2 go crazy, and the other 1/2 turn baby raping evil. So now, all you do is just sit in your tower, contemplating the meaning of life and occasionally teaching yours sons the true meaning of chaos once in a while.

>>53465124
Surely The Emperor let all of the Primarchs know about The Imperial Truth, they were meant to preach it after all. He wasn't indoctrinated, you're right, i misused the term, but he had to have been aware of his Father's stance on such things.