Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

Laughing at the fact that boxnaughts just got their +1 attack, then were left in the dirt once again as an inferior walker.

>>53460515
>"TWINS THEY WERE"
>"PREPARE TO BE PURGED"

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>>53460515

>daily duncan

Is 8th ed going to Make Grey Knights Great Again?

So now that we have the rules out there. When are we going to our hands on some armys

>>53460495
Pretty much. You get the rare army that can do both fairly easily, like 30k Mechanicum, where my army has 100 Fearless chaff that can form a line across literally the entire board and sweep the while thing. In battles against melee armies that can quite literally be the entire front line. Thing is, I can also have things like Macrocarids, which are Land Raider Redeemers sans Assault Vehicle filled with 3+ armour Custodes carrying Assault 4 PE Gravguns, and artillery batteries, AND suicide drop Haywire, AND squads of 4W Kastelans.

That basically means I can do everything at once, and blast any strongpoints like the ones you mention to tiny bits, occupy and hold with heavy tanks and such and wait for the Levies to make their way through to me. That SHOULD be what Guard, Chaos and Nids can pull off, but everything gravitated to deathstars unless you made the tarpits truly gigantic and infinite, like the Renegades Unending Host. Hopefully that will change in 8e.

First for Khorne predator tank with all the guns and destroyer blades

>>53460595
Well, GK are gonna hit on a 3+ in CC, and Force weapons do D3 wounds by default and no longer have to be turned on.
And no more deep strike scatter.
And being able to charge after deepstrike.

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>>53460551
Soon to be dead god.

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>>53460551
based slanny the tranny

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>>53460515
>eddie is finnaly making a come back
Got to say, I love the new dreadnought. It does a much better job of being the new eddie than the contemptor IMO

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Well... rip.

>>53460634

>Hitting on 3+
>D3 wounds
>Always on
>No scatter.
>Charge after deepstrike

I CAN ABHOR THE DAEMON TO THIS

>>53460639
It's gender fluid, cis scum.

>>53460656
Shame he died.

>honourary bolter fire in the distance.

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>>53460638
Oh don't worry I'll be sending your brother to finish the job soon enough Girlyman. Or you could join him and Drago...

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>>53460639
>>53460684

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>>53460551
>mfw best god first post

>>53460695
>In a threeway ofcourse.

>>53460717
when on a pleasure planet...

>>53460717
Needs a tau sept in there somewhere.

>Mortarion announced

Still have a gigantic painting backlog not even counting the new stuff I have to buy to make my Word Bearers fit for 8th edition abd they keep releasing interesting shit non stop now. Pls GW stahp it I can't paint that fast.

>>53460551
Zoneghostbusterswebm

>>53460515
I want a super boxnought with a jump pack like Intercessors.

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>>53460695
I have better god to worship.

>>53460752
And a Cog Mechanicum.

>>53460774
Guilliman's cock?

>>53460770
Fuck. I didn't know I wanted that until just now.

I sorta want it to have giant turbo fans on the side like a plague drone.

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>>53460656
>He did IA and HH books
>He also did FF WHFB and 40K books for the RPGs

That's sad. How old was he and what made him pass away?

>>53460774
Yes space elf. Give your souls to totally not Slaanesh.

>>53460796
judging by the picture he wasnt in the best of health

>>53460774
>better god

i also worship her feet anon

>>53460852
Nah. Depends on how much but he doesn't look that much.

Maybe heart problems? But then it would be linked to the above.

Darn. Still sad.

>>53460796
Not that old.

he had cancer

>>53460892
>Spoiler

FUCK. It strikes again.

>>53460755
>>Mortarion announced
Where? I feel like I'm seriously out of the loop right now between this and the new dread in the OP.

>>53460808
>totally not slaanesh
I would really like Slaanesh's defeat to be brought about by cegorach convincing her to fuse with ynnead with a promise of surpassing the other ruinous powers.

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>T H I C C

How do detachments work?

Like, some of them are meme ones that just say '1 lord of war'.

What use is that? Can you take multiple detachments?

>Primaris keep losing
2 wounds and 30" weapons and still get their ass handed to them?
I wanted to like this guys, I'm dont know what to think now.

>>53460942
>Can you take multiple detachments?
Yes.

>>53460929
The feet look way to small from this angle.

>>53460942
>Can you take multiple detachments?

Yes. You can mix and match them any way you like.

>>53460892
>Spoiler
>Releasing new Nurgle stuff right now
There is only GrimDark.

>>53460965
>>53460955
That seems a bit bureaucratic.

You'll just be able to run anything really. Command points are the only thing that this affects in the end.

>>53460929
>primaris marines have already taken enough casualties to field dreadnoughts

>>53460948
maybe its the drone's 2d6 auto hit shots and the lord of contagion's airborne aids rule

>>53460987
Remember existing marines can be upgraded to chadmarines, hence Primaris captains, ancients etc.

>>53460966
Nah, Cancer is all Tzeentch, cells changing causing mutations. Turns out, change is bad.

>>53460987
Little brother marine had an accident while trying to impress his big brother and Celestine.

>>53460987
Shh. Haniki is sleeping.

>>53460987
If they can swap helmets you can probably just stick normie space marine heads in a box.

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Do we know anything about Nurgle Daemons for now? Two Start Collecting boxes are enough to make a legal 1k pts army for AoS but I'm worried it will be not enough for 8e

>>53460982
That's the entire point of it. GW didn't want to invalidate any armies that are currently possible with formations, which in understandable. Nothing is more infuriating than your army becoming illegal.

Command Points, Keypoints and Strategems is how you'll be rewarded/punished for how you use them.

>>53460987
Seems just to be a new pattern of dreadnought for space marines though. The teaser said "Space marine redemptor dreadnought", nothing about it being primaris yet.

>>53461000
Or the 6s inflict no wounds. Or the 6s inflict mortal wounds in melee. Or the 3 niggas who are basically HQ characters.

>>53461003
Imagine being the Coffin-Marine who gets dragged out of your chill killy coffin to be injected with all sorts of shit before being jammed back inside a different box that is now much taller, throwing off your balance.

"Tankred ain't gonna endure this shit"

>>53461027
Maybe the plague marines are just way more resilient with their FnP than the primarines with their extra wound.

>>53461024
The community posts were specifically saying "wait until you see the primaris dreadnought", so no

>>53461040
>Guys, I can't feel my storm bolter!

Seems cruel to bully the elderly like that.

>>53461045
Well yeah, it's +1T and a 1/3 chance to ignore any wounds that make it through their save, fuckers are really resilient.

>>53461045
You really took the old grey for a jog around thinking city, boi.

Following the arguing last thread
Space marines are most popular
Followed by spiky marines then?
What follows that, what is non marine and popular, what will GW be cashing in on next

>>53461052
But that answer made zero sense, because why would you not be allowed to just take the redemptor dreadnought and zero primarines if you like the one and not the other ?

It just sounded like a poor PR salespitch. Why would liking the dreadnougth suddenly also make you like numarines ?

>>53460551
>Dead tyranid
fwp

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>getting asked to paint something that looks like it'd be fun to paint by a friend

>>53461083
I know. I'm not defending it, yet I have to admit that's what we were told.

>>53460948
They just don't have the firepower. Look at how many Death Guard models there are and how tough they are.

>20 poxwalkers with DR
>7 3+ sv T5 Marines with DR +2 characters + a psyker that makes them get hit at -1 penalty
>10 Wound 3+/5++ T7 blight drone with DR
>2+/4++ 6 Wound T5 Terminator Lord with DR
Meanwhile a Primarine costs basically the same as two Tac Marines but gets half as many shots, the +6" range and a bit of AP doesn't make up for that unless you're shooting at models with a very specific armour save and no DR

Hell even the Inceptors with their 18 shots are only doing
12 hits
8 Wounds
~5 dead Poxwalkers per shooting phase, or 30pts worth, meanwhile that Inceptor unit costs 160pts and you've got stuff like the Blight-drone and the Lord tossing out Mortal Wounds.

And then those poxwalkers can respawn their guys by killing Primarines in CC.

>>53461082

Mortarion/Death Guard stuff will be released following 8th.
Hoping Imperial Guard are next up for an update.

>>53461083
What are you on about?

anyone else hoping chaos furies get new models or am I alone on this?

Did some IG vs SM with the rules we know so far. Game was quick and intuitive. Battle cannons where good against both meq and dreadnoughts. Had an IG infantry squad wreck a tactical squad in hth. Charging to attack first is pretty good.

>>53461068
I hadn't really thought of it, but 1/3 deaths isn't that far from 1/2 deaths. The +1 toughness probably makes up the difference.

>>53461117
New models is always a good thing, but if I were to make a list of the minis I'd want new sculpts for Furies would be towards the bottom.

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>>53460515
Can't wait to watch these punch some MC faces

Will things like the Poxwalker curse of the walking pox require "reserve points"? In Age Of Sigmar i remember a lot of cool abilities like neferata's "summon a vampire when you kill a hero" got kind of shut down by reserve points, since they became inferior to just taking a vampire or summoning it with a spell.

>>53461128
It's not the Plague Marines being that much better, it's the combination of the Blight-drone, the 20 chaff guys, and the characters.

The Poxwalkers being immune to Morale probably pushes them over the edge.

So. Are the rulebooks really going to be cheaper or was that a GW lie?

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>>53461141
Yeah!

>>53461145
It only requires reserve points if it says it does. Since we have seen the full rules of the Curse of the Walking Pox we know that it doesn't.

>>53461156
The rulebook is free

>>53461156
do you read the threads at all, shit for brains?

>>53461099
Miss my painting buddy.
I paid him in models, or assembling his stuff. Like below starvation prices.

>>53461156
The basic rules will be free, who gives a shit about the rulebook.

The Index books (replacements for Codex books) will probably be expensive as hell since each contains multiple factions.

>>53461168
Bullshit. I mean the physical copy.

>>53461104
I see it now, thanks. I wanted to make a full Primaris army, but I'm new at the game and dont know how to counter people with such a strong army literally out of the box and who will kick my ass even if they are just as new. What should I look for to equilibrate?

>>53461176
>The Index books (replacements for Codex books) will probably be expensive as hell since each contains multiple factions.
not true.
They're just a quick overview of all the units in the factions, no fluff or anything. They're going to be fairly cheap.

>>53461177
No mention of that.
But seeing as it's going to be an optional luxury, don't bet on it.

>>53460915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E415aFoSDcY&t=0s

>>53461166
Oh! Is there an example of a rule that says it needs reserve points? I know they vaguely alluded to pink horrors needing reserve points to split.

>>53461191
20 european burgerdollars. Not expensive at all.

>>53461176
>The Index books (replacements for Codex books) will probably be expensive as hell since each contains multiple factions.

They will be 20$/€ according to the price leak.

>>53461191
They are ~22 Euros / 15 GBP each, so not very expensive.

>>53461202
Well fuck, that was cool.

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So how badly do you guys think the various flavor of xenos lore are going to get simplified and butchered because we dont even have individual codexes anymore?
How much do you wanna bet that the ultramarine entry is gonna be longer than say: The tyranid one?
Especially considering that they probably donated 50% of the blood angels entry to the ultramarines.

I will miss old codices. I like the lore+rule combo.

How would DA or Iron Hands react to primaris marines?

>>53461179
I am also new and i dont like marines but i don't think theres much people can tell you yet. Because we don't know the stats of other things, like the space marine tanks, walkers and land speeders it is hard to know which model is right for you. That said if you can find some strength 6+ weapons that do many hits those might work. Is there a big flamer weapon like that?

>>53461176
>The Index books will probably be expensive as hell
Not true. Every Index costs 15 british-dollars
>replacements for Codex books
Also not true
"Oh, and don’t worry, this doesn’t mean Orks and Tyranids are now on the same side, it just means they share a book for the moment. In the future, they’ll get their own dedicated codexes."

>>53461172
Painting buddies are blessings upon the world. I really love my friend and enjoy spending time painting things with him. No homo at all

>>53461207
>>53461212
Big if true.

I'm half expecting a round of price raises the instant 8th drops. Add 15% to each box of troops etc. Things have been going too smoothly since GW started announcing 8th. They need to fuck it up somewhere.

It's not that hard you retards. There WILL be new codexes. Just not at release.

>>53461223
You'll get your codexes.

>>53461228
>"I don't care that you are taller than me. Off those limbs go and replace it with mechanical stuff, Omnissiah be praised"

Do we know what the Primaris Ancients do yet?

>>53461176
WARHAMMER 40000: DARK IMPERIUM (ENGLISH) £95.00
WARHAMMER 40000 RULEBOOK (ENGLISH) £35.00
WH40K: TACTICAL OBJECTIVE CARDS (ENG) £8.00
SECTOR IMPERIALIS: OBJECTIVES £20.00
WARHAMMER 40000: COMMAND DICE £12.50
WARHAMMER 40000: WOUND TRACKERS £8.00
INDEX: XENOS 1 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: XENOS 2 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: CHAOS (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: IMPERIUM 1 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: IMPERIUM 2 (ENGLISH) £15.00
DARK IMPERIUM NOVEL (HB) £18.00
WARHAMMER 40000: COMBAT GAUGE £6.00
CITADEL DEATH GUARD GREEN SPRAY £11.75

>>53461226
Those'll happen, still. The indexes are just a quick, 8th edition update so that your army doesn't have to wait to start playing.

>>53461232
Primaris Salamanders it is, then.

>>53461177
>Physical
Free pamphlets in stores.

>>53461253
>he doesn't know

>>53461256
Seemingly hold flags and boost morale.

>>53461238
It is tru, the downside is they are stopgap books, to tide people over until they have individual codexes with the full works for every faction.

>>53461179
That's a really good question. We might just need to wait and see what else they get for releases. A lot of stuff about this edition is new so it's hard to just mathhammer and theorycraft the right moves.

>>53461255
>Primaris brother replaces his dick with a power maul
>Every manlet marine laughs because it's not a combi-melta

>>53461237
Not going to lie, I'd probably be up for some sexual favors in exchange for painting.

Fug i hate painting. I'm so bad at it, it's absurd.

Do we know how much the FW index books will be yet

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And then there's THIS asshole.

>>53460717
>Bipolar junction transistor
praise the motive force

>>53461203
We don't have any of those in writing yet, no, but we do have the core rules and they don't have anything that would make you need reserve points for abilities that don't specify they use them.

Question is there any recordings of a the deathguard vs Primaris games.

>>53461269
I know more than you, like how the five books are just a measure to bring all armies up to speed with the new 8e rules.

>>53461287
I know the feeling, I'd rather clean moldines all day that paint.

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Since GW has apparently decided it's Super Marines Time A-Go-Go Baby, what are the odds we get literally any Salamanders models within the next two years? It's the one thing that would make me pick up Marines.

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People are talking about models and codices and I just want to see any info about new 40k apps

I never realized how retardedly stupid people in this thread and in the hobby in general are
god damn

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>>53461253
>he is unaware

>>53461292
Frankenstein?

>>53461309
Primaris Pyroclasts?

>>53461295
Okay, i haven't read the core rules. Thanks anon. Have the psychic powers available to these new death guard been shown?

>>53461309
I don't see any smurf iconography on the Primaris models, go nuts.

No flamers/meltas though, chads are inflexible like that.

>>53461314
Well arn't you just a precious little ray of sunshine.

>>53461309
>Salamanders
Aren't they just normal marines with a different paint job?

>>53461318
Those are temporary measures to get everyone caught up at the start of 8th.

GW literally confirmed multiple times that after that point it will go back to the usual single-army Codex releases.

You are the dumbass who is unaware.

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>>53461287
Honestly I'd rather do the opposite. Painting stuff is fun, and I'd totally be down to please my friend to get more things to paint

>>53461318
Are you not tired with shitposting like this? I mean - could you at least try to make a decent bait?

>>53461309
>Salamanders models
What next, Crimson Fists models? Its just take a space marine and paint it green.

>>53461318
>He things that's it
They are stopgap releases untill ful dexes (sans points) are ready for all factions

>>53461318
It's just Ravening Hordes dumdum

>>53461328
We had one of them talked about in the Faction Focus but we don't have a full page of the powers or all the specifics of them.

Have they released any new info on Dark Angels?

>>53461355
Really? I thought people got to play with death guard and primaris at that convention thingo and would have talked about it.

>>53461335
Nah. They had a reroll fire weapons failed hits and cool iconography. Now flamers autohit tho, so who knows.

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>>53461360
Well there was a special news bulletin

>>53461364
Yeah we don't have any 100% psychic power leaks from these people that I'm aware of. They might be out there somewhere if you look hard enough.

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>>53461099
Anyone got sauce on this image? Reverse searching isn't giving me anything

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>>53461360
Yes, primarines concept art leak:

>>53461375
Twinlinked flamers re-rolled to wound and they got free MC upgrade on non-relic melee weapons for characters.

>>53461314

40k and /tg/ are a Petri dish of stupidity.
It wasn't always this way.

>>53461410
That too. I forgot about the mastecrafted stuff. And some extracool forgeworld stuff

>>53461304
Agreed. I feel like there's more of a sense of accomplishment modeling. When you're done there's something you haven't had before.

Painting, it's still the same, just a different color.

>>53461338
Allowing guys to suck my dick is a sexual favor.

>>53461419
It was always a Petri dish of stupidity, but it used to be people got called out on being dumb, instead of the current reverse trend.

>>53461314
It's mostly kids pretending to be dipshits because they think it's funny. There are a surprising amount of people who just can't fucking read though.

>>53461410
Twinlinked flamers presumably now roll 2D6 hits. So there's that.

I don't see any Primaris models with flamers but geedubs have claimed that all the old models will get rules.

>>53461375
I meant model wise not in rules.
>and cool iconography.
Might be able to make your own, if you're good at free hand.

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>new rules for twin-linked weapons mean they fire twice as many shots

why can't I hold all these dice

>>53461341
If the Vampires, Yiffs and Moody Fuckers can get a dozen unique models apiece you can certainly give some love to the other first founding chapters.

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>>53461380
How about this?

>>53461176
£15 each

>>53460515
How are we so sure Fulgrim/ noise marines will be out this year?

>>53461292
I really hope this isn't the final product.

>>53461292
Why does his face look like pepe?

>>53461451
I'll give you a 2/5, apply yourself.

>>53461470
Three primarchs is too much.

>>53461463
If there's a joke here it has utterly escaped me.

>>53461451

They're probably part of Imperial Agents.

Considering how big a deal the Sororitas were in Gathering Storm, I don't think they're throwing them away.

does anyone know if pauldrons and heads are compatible with old astartes? There much potential to be lost if not

>>53461470
"We" aren't.

>TWO THREADS
>SAME MEME SHIT IN BOTH
see >>53461464

You people are all subhuman, stop messing with the thread.

>>53461292
Now that's a face only a mother could love.

>>53461451
When will you learn, old man?

>>53461462
How new to this are you?

>>53461470
We aren't, but if not this year, they'll be out next year.

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How can Tau possibly compete in 8th edition?

>>53461451
You're a fucking idiot, they said in the article Imperial Agents=Sororitas.

>>53461487
GW confirmed they are the same scale in the Primaris FAQ.

>>53460987
What if Primaris Dreads are the half-mutilated rejects of the implantation process that still have their mental faculties, but are twisted abominations?

Instead of respecting their dreadnoughts, Primaris marines would then probably view them as "less" than them because they weren't strong enough to become "real" marines, in complete juxtaposition with regular Marine doctrine?

I honestly love any lore that creates a gulf between regular marines and PRimaris marines, to emphasize their "outsider" nature and their difference from regular Marines.

The Horus Heresy 2: Primaris Bugaloo fucking when

>>53461452
It's ok anon, I like some fluff in my painting and converting. I respect your opinion, anyway.

>>53461504
They basically can't :^)

>>53461452
The only 40k model they get currently is one character, so you pretty much have to use generimarines or kitbash if you actually have talent. They've not got any love from geedubs like the Wolves or Angels. It would be nice to see them or maybe the Imperial Fists get some stuff tho.

>>53461482
I'm trying to look as hard as possible. That is a picture of the hardest thing i know of. That is the joke.

>>53461487
They are

>>53461510
Thanks a bunch

>>53461443

That may be true, but back in 2010/2011 there were a lot of creative minds in /tg/ that make the board flourish.
People today think that shit like Angry marines are cringey now, but back then the art was funny and the conversions were inspiring.

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>>53461487
Their heads and pauldrons look like they're the same size, so I'm assuming they will be. It'd be at least easier on GW and FW's ends since they wouldn't need to make two versions of all their upgrade packs.

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>>53461438
I guess you have a fair point. I've actually always kinda wondered what that would feel like. Jesus, please don't make me do anything lewd to my painting buddy

>>53461487
Pauldrons and heads are, yes, other bits are not.

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>>53461547
What are you... suggesting?

>>53461498
Not very, just too autistic to play vanilla Marines and shit at modelling and kitbashing as my short and hideous foray into Orks shows. I just want a squad of Firedrakes, is that so much to ask?

>>53461504
They got overnerfed because of spergs who couldn't play on both sides. Reliance on riptide wings didn't do Tau any favors, but players imply bitching about markerlights and overwatch weren't any good themselves and shouldn't have been heard. Markerlights shouldn't have been able to ignore cover, at least not as cheaply, and that's about it.

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>>53461454

These new rules make me wish pic related were legally possible.

>>53461410
If the primaris captain is anything to go by, master crafted is going to be +1 damage. That is going to be sick for Salamanders.

>>53461571
Anon, you're too autistic to realize Salamanders are vanilla marines.

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>>53461560
I'll ____ his ____ until he ____ his ________ all over, maybe in exchange for a thing or two to paint and give back to him.

>>53461547
Where you at bb?
I've got a big fat c̶o̶c̶k̶ pile of minis for you.

>>53461099
Sauce?

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>>53461023
bomp

>>53461545
It was funny when it was fresh and people reposted cause they enjoyed it, now memes are 1 man crimes against humanity, perpetrated and perpetuated by the same person.

Why are people STILL replying to the cheetah-fucker? Don't you people fucking learn he's just going to summarize what you said in the post he replies to and then say how hard he's "laughing" at it? Every. Single. Time.

>>53461631
Nothing that wan't in the focus article.

>>53461635
He will be shitposting everytime he can but usually he starts without his avatar - he is using it mainly when replying so it's easier to report him

>>53461635
>have all his images filtered
>didnt even knew he was back

Feels good man.

>>53461635
Is he still around?

Guess I finally got all his image md5's filtered then.

>>53461512
>The reason they are called Redemptor Dreadnoughts is because they failed their battle brothers and need to redeem themselves

>>53461547
Remember, anon: What you do cannot be undone.

On the other hand, living securely is boring...

>>53461598
Is this boku girl?

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>>53460551
Name of artist? image search just gave me the definition of darkness.
Witch is honestly kind of appropriate.

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Decided to change up my DE list to reflect changes in the overall fluff
Thoughts?

>Lost
CTC, Jetfighters

>Gained
Scourges, Reavers

>>53460551
Uncensored sauce?

>>53460515
Wait...
Do those Dreadnoughts have 2 scoops?

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>>53461679

I don't mind the Primaris being underpowered against the Death Guard in the box, that's fine and one of the armies is almost always at a disadvantage as the pattern we've seen in most starter boxes

But I'm gonna be annoyed if they're just taller marines but weak and mediocre. I don't want them to be super OP +1 everything marines, but why bring out a new faction to just get buttfucked

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>>53461708
TWO SCOOOOPZ?!

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>>53461708

>>53461678
Yep. Don't remember exactly where, think it was a doujin or something.
>>53461608
But anon, my love is dedicated to my painting friend!

>>53461679
>>53461706
Artist appears to be wan-youming
http://wh40kart.im/i43145

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>>53461739

>>53461741
Gotta practice don't you? Don't you want you painting friends first time to be magical?

>>53461582

That pic looks like somebody took that Valkyrie to a Mexican Enginseer and just told him to make it "as lethal as possible."

>"Enginseer Hidalgo, I need you to put some Autocannons on my Valkyrie."
>"Aight, Warrant Officer. How many you want?"
>"How many you got?"
>"Enough, man. We got enough."
>"Okay. I leave her in your capable mechatendrils."
>"She's safe with me, boss."

...

>"Enginseer Hidalgo, what did you do!?"
>"We put Autocannons on your Valkyrie?"
>"That's a shitload of Autocannons!"
>"Ey, you damn right!"
>"Can she even fly?"
>"Oh yeah, absolutely. My cousin added a few purified superchargers to the turbines of your VTOL and primary engines, and we upped the output of your anti-grav engines by 1N/cm3. She'll fly fast as an eagle, man."
>"Throne alive..."
>"I know right? Normally we don't throw that stuff in there, but anything for a servant of the Emperor."
>"...the eagle wings are a nice touch."
>"Oh yeah, my nephew is an artist. He threw that in for free."
>"...awesome."
>"Oh yeah, just an FYI, you gotta be at max speed when you fire the guns, otherwise it'll act like an air brake and you'll just stop in midair. Couldn't find a way around that one."
>"...worth it."

>>53461718
Just use the new models as truescale marines with old rules if you want.

Are dreadnoughts going to be great again?

Please?

>>53461751
Nice, thank you!

>>53461679
>>53461706
Won't let me post a link, so look for wan-youming or do an image search and replace "darkness" with "slaanesh". There should be an uncensored version in the "visually similar images" tab.

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>>53461708
DAHNALD

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>>53461718

>>53461787
The term "great again" is cursed.
Sorry, it was the monkey's paw of meme magic.

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>>53461798
No problem, Praise Slaanesh!

>>53461718
Just yesterday we had the same talk, except with Death Guard and Primarines switched around.
Relax, they'll be fine.

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>>53461604

Son, I'm a Necron player. I don't care if they do squat the Sororitas. I'm just making the obvious observation that they're not about to squat an army that was a big part of last year's major narrative event.

If they're gonna squat an army, yeah, it's gonna be Sisters. They're a niche army, never a big seller, the model range is still almost all metal, and the last time they had an actual book as their own codex was Codex: Witch Hunters back in 3rd edition. Their 5th ed codex was a White Dwarf article, their 6th ed codex was an ebook.

But in 7th they are literally part of Codex: Imperial Agents, and the new Index Imperium 2 literally says "Imperial Agents" on the cover. GW openly said the indices are supposed to keep every single model in the current range in the new edition.

Now hey: they did the same thing for Fantasy with the warscrolls, and then squatted Tomb Kings, so if you want to make the argument that the index is gonna be the very last release for the Sisters, sure, go ahead, you could be right. But if you want to say they're getting tossed out in the transition to 8th, you are an actual idiot.

>>53461022
hell, they should just stick serf brains in dreadnoughts instead of Stalkers and Hunters

>>53461811
>>53461764
m-multi thread shitposting!

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Scythes of the emperor are back

>>53461833
N-nani!?

>>53461718
How exactly is the primaris side underpowered?

>>53461828

What's the appeal of Necrons?

I've never seen it so I'm just curious as to what draws people to them

>>53461824
Except the people yesterday were just jumping to conclusions based on the fact that usually the Imperial side of the start sets is OP.

Now we have more rules and it looks like the Primarines are way outclassed.

>>53461762
But if I really want to thank him for painting times and such, shouldn't I remain pure?

>>53461833
He gets more pathetic everytime.

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>>53461718
They won't be. Right now they have two mediocre squads and all those characters holding them back. Add another hellblaster squad and another hanging kitten squad, then maybe a dreadnought when that comes out and you have alot more killing power.

They will still be a little weak at holding multiple objectives but close in power with lots of killing potential.

>>53461862
Being able to pull some real bullshit on the tabletop, probably. I swear invoking reanimation protocols automatically loads your dice.

>>53461853
Consider that it takes 11 shots with the Bolt Rifles, with the re-roll 1's buff aura from the Captain, just to do 0.95 Wounds to a Plague Marine, and that's if they don't have the Miasma of Pestilence psychic buff that gives the opponents -1 to hit.

Then consider that there's a Cataphractii Terminator Plague Lord with 6 Wounds and the usual +1T and FnP Nurgle stuff has, and a T7 10 Wound 3+/5++/FnP plague drone zipping around, and 20 FnP bullet-catchers with Morale immunity.

The Primarines are paying twice as many points for the same firepower as a regular Tac Marine with a few more inches of range and -1 to armour saves.

>>53461862
Necrons used to be cool to me.

Back when they had few models but it was all effective and intimidating.

Now its all Egyptian meme vehicles and bullcrap.

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>>53461751
>>53461803

Hot damn anons thanks.This guys style looks amazing.

>>53461862
Strong weapons. Bullshit rules like revive troops. General edgyness

>>53461935
Was looking at the plasma gunner squad and just thought they seemed under powered

So even with all the talk from GW that assault armies are back, the random charge distance is still in, and assaulting unit still eats overwatch. And the limit of one overwatch per turn is also gone. The close combat maybe more lethal, but that doesn't help if you can't get into it.
That is not okay.
On the other hand: the "6's to hit, no modifiers" looks alright. What will happen to Cognis weapons?

>>53461957
>>53461936

The only Necron player I even knew only liked them for their bullshit rules.

I guess the real question is are Necron players more or less tolerable than Tau players?

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Two thin coats?

TWO THIN COATS?!?!?!?

>>53461863
Primadonnas have Inceptors to more-or-less savage anything stupid enough to dare be in range, Hellblasters to delete units, long-range Intercessors to pick of stragglers and a hero that allows them to reroll 1s to hit. Plus the ancient and lieutenants, which we don't know about yet but at least can be thrown in the way of a charge to buy time for your shooty squads to back up and shoot some more.

>>53461853
At the warhsmmer live plays testing death guard has Been winning just about every game

>>53461936
This.

Newcrons were the worst thing to happen to 40k since Tau.

>>53461911
Can confirm that reanimation protocols rolls statistically have a higher average than any other roll in the game.

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>>53460515
So is there ANYTHING that the Cawl/Gorrila combo didn't make better? Are we going to see Land Raider sized Rhinos? Bikes with like fifteen dudes on each one? Space ships with huge beefy arms?

Is Cawl just space Imhotep?

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>>53461975
>He's not using GSC to infiltrate 9" away then getting the average charge of 10.5" without overwatch

Maybe you should play a more radicool army

>>53462007
If you do the math none of these units are half as threatening as you think they are. Once the Nurgle stuff closes the distance they just drown their opponents in attacks and Mortal Wounds.

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>>53461775

>>53461862

I jumped on board with the 5th edition codex myself.

Back in 3rd they seemed kind of cool just aesthetically, but they were just killer robots. They had really interesting mechanics that made them potent on the tabletop until 5th edition's core rules wrecked them, so I was sort of glancing their way, but I was still just dicking around with Eldar on VASSAL while deciding if I wanted to actually get into the game.

When the 5th edition codex came out, I read it and finally had what I wanted. I was having a lot of trouble making real progress with the Eldar just because they were hard to play right at the time, very skill-intensive. Necrons were mechanically solid but also picked up some really interesting characters and personality, with the "ancient resurgent empire" schtick that attracted me to the Eldar but easier tabletop play and, at least in my opinion, more interesting intra-faction conflicts with the whole dynasty thing instead of craftworld dickery.

There's something to be said for the feeling of just marching a whole bunch of dudes straight from side of the table to another and drowning your opponent in gauss fire. I've been a bit out of the loop, but back when I was playing, Necrons were the best at shooting within the 24"-12" range -- any further and they could barely shoot at all, any closer and you could bog them down in melee.

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>The way it works in the new Warhammer 40,000 is really fun. You can take one Astra Militarum Detachment for each Genestealer Cults Detachment in yourBattle-forged army. They each need to be entirely comprised of units with their respective keyword, but this allows incredible amounts of diversity in your army that is also quite characterful.

This makes me so happy, so many options now

>>53462041
This also implies that allies might not be a thing in the future. Atleast not as they are now. Maybe tied to overall keyword? So no allies for orks.

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>>53461697
Where my fellows Archons @?
Anyone got any thoughts about what Haywire will be?

Are there any stats on the nurgle drone thing in the starter set? And what weapons does it have, are those some nurgley Lascannons or what?

>>53462041
>Genecult Baneblades

By the Emperor.

>>53462066
2d6 autohit

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Where the SoB created solely for the eventual r34?

>>53462041
FUCKING XENOS GET OUT OF MY TANKS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>53462066
Yes. Basically 2 heavy flamers.

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>>53461991
Cool.

>>53461991
far more tolerable

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>>53462064
If pic related is any indication (graviton weapons used to have haywire), It'll be fuckloads of extra damage vs vehicles.

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>>53462094
Lame

>>53462057
Imagine if orks were allowed to take anything with a keyword "vehicle" as a looted vehicle.

>>53462021
Well, we know there is a plane in the works and chances are that some vehicle is around the corner as well.
Expect a Xiphon with a set of Stormtalon thrusters welded to the sides and a elongated rhino with land raider tracks.

>>53462087
Fuck me that looks good. A shame you can't squadron them though. Where did this leak come from and are there more?

>>53462133
Crisp looking

>>53462125
Reminder to filter this annoying cunt.

>>53462082
No, they used to what the Ecclessiarchy used to keep control of the Astartes, who used to be a lot less 'HEROES OF TEH IMPERIUM' and more gangs of psychotic genetic-supersoldiers the Imperium barely had control of.

There's a reason Muhreens roll around in chapters like the Hell's Angels.

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>>53462146
Leak? This was posted on warhammer community. Its on the article about the convention stuff ill post the rest.

>>53462167
Filter this annoying cunt.

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>>53462146
>>53462179
Boss man! He has no guns or blight grenades though which is kinda lame, so hes not a real chaos lord.

>>53462114
Shame that i'll only have Haywire on my 2x 2Talos units
I can't resist the fact that DL Scourges will be viable and deep striking units no longer scatter - we Heat Lance nao

>>53462133
>>53462094
why do necron monoliths always look shit?
Even the ones on the store are bad

>>53462188
(You)'re not fooling anyone.

>>53462188
>A lot of us actually find him hilarious.

t. Cheetahfag

>>53460515

Why is the Leviathan in that picture the same size as the contemptor?

Also what is with all the crazy people saying Contemptors look shit have they literally only seen the betrayal at Calth one

>>53462179
With 4" movement, these guys will never reach a ranged unit that wants to avoid them.

Terrible.

>>53462179
Well, it looks like they don't have any stipulation about going over its starting squad size with the killing but there's very little chance of that happening even if they fight something like conscripts.

Probably a good screening/overwatch eating squad.

>>53461991

Necrons generally have to close to 24" or less to fight you because they have almost nothing that can shoot outside of that range.

Tau just blow you away from across the map.

So Cron players are at least trying to have an interactive game where you can actually do shit, and win that by beating you in the interactions, while the Tau are trying to prevent you from meaningfully interacting with them at all.

I don't know if that NECESSARILY says anything about the players, but it does suggest certain tendencies.

>>53462179
They've been posted today but if they are not in this thread yet post away for any newcomers!

>>53462125
I'm glad they dissociating Celestine from the SoBs, she's an interesting character unlike her faction.

They could change her backstory to cut them out entirely.

>>53462179
Oh shit I was looking under the 40k section not the main page. Thanks man.

>>53462206

Partially because they're a really old model and partly because you have no goddamn taste.

>>53462146
Keep in mind its probably around 200 points, so very expensive.

>>53462196
Does Nurgle's gift stack if more than one unit is within 1" of an enemy unit

>>53462229
>No cheetah pic

You had one job.

>>53462207
>>53462208
Cheetahfag usually just exaggerates the truth which is why he's such a skilled bottom botherer. I enjoy how salty he makes people.

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>>53462146
>>53462179
>>53462196
These guys seem nice but they aren't Primaris Marines.
>>53462206
That White/Blue one looks neat.
>>53462219
Maybe you can put them in rhinos or something. I got the impression the point was to use them as screens for characters since characters cant be shot if other dudes are nearby. Plus they can sit on objectives and be annoying.

>>53462188
And he posts cute cheetahs.

>>53462025
Are you sure about that? Beyond the plasma guns/blight launchers the plague marines are not terribly threatening at range and are actually kinda slow. The one fast mover, the drone, either has to deal with a lot of fire coming its way or hang back until the other units start moving in, and the lord, while scary in a fight and really fucking hard to take out, is slow as molasses.

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>>53461454
Can't wait till this thing gets 8th Edition rules

>>53462249
Whilst i don't know because i don't make these rules i think the answer is no.
>for each enemy unit that is within 1" of one or more such models
So whether you are near one or more, you get the same effect. It would be worded differently if you got to roll it per model.

>>53462249
No, read the fucking rules

>>53461862
I love robots and minimalism

>>53462206

People tend to overdo the highlighting, resulting in way too many green edges.

I don't have my monolith yet but when I get it, I plan to highlight the edges in a much darker green than people tend to do, for a more subtle effect, and save the very bright green for the little tron lines on the panels.

>>53461846
is that storm lords i see there? bout time

>>53462207
>>53462208
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You guys are so assflustered you accuse me of being Cheetah anon just because I'm not sperging out about him being in the thread.

>>53462266
So heres a thing, with no facings how are those weapon sponsors handled?

Is Power Rating literally Warmahordes?

>>53461003
Ancient is just a word for standard bearer, anon.

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>>53461309
Just buy Salamander bits from FW, they're fully compatible.

>>53462259
>plasma pistols no longer have gets hot
>but you can super charge it for super gets hots
Hmmm....

I feel like I should have equipped my sargents with more plasma pistols.

>>53462311
Not literally, no.

Hey guys.
Help me out on that:
An army is made of detachments. All units in one detachment need to have the same faction keyword.

Why do the GC have a special rule to take one AM detachment for every GC detachment?

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>>53460551
why is /tg/ so obsessed with making slaanesh a girl? hes a guy, everyone knows this.

>>53462311
Right now its approximately 20 points = 1 power rating.

That's the base line I presume, when they see how things are performing/being used etc, they'll change it.

>>53462259
>special weapons list
>champion equipment list
>pg 10
They are still making same shit as in 7e - instead of packing the shit onto a datasheet they are placing the rules and stuff in fuckin book.

>>53462259
>rubrics get bolters, flamers, and autocannon
>plague marines get bolters (+ melee), plasma, and a blight launcher
>EC get ?
>WE get ?

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>>53460796
manlet thread?

>>53462259
Actually Plague marines are more likely to wound a Primaris than a Primaris is to wound a Plague Marine.

Still it's 16% for Plague on Prim and 11% for prim on plague so the Prims still edge out with the range benefit and 2 wounds, though the blight launcher and plasma gun could turn things in the plagues favor.

>>53462338
Probably something to do with Stratagems we haven't seen yet. The Faction specific Stratagems might require every unit in your whole army to share a Faction keyword, GSC probably ignore this and can take both AM Stratagems and AM Stratagems as long as they have equal Detachments of each.

>>53462353
EC get sonic blasters.
WE get fucked.

>>53462353
Plague marines have up to two 'upgrades'.

An extra plasma pistol on top of boltgun.

A blight launcher in place of a boltgun.

'Other stuff' in place of a boltgun. (Probably meltas and shit)

>>53462353
EC have Blaster Masters and Doom Sirens.
WE will have axes and bigger axes.

>>53462337
Well, it looks more similar to how WMH builds unit compared to the older granularity.
To me it looks like as yet another way to chase competitors, as with the models of the nu-marines chasing Infinity.

>>53462125
>tfw you go to report a post and it's already gone

>>53462363
>and 11% for prim on plague
You forgot Disgustingly Resilient. It's around 7% for Prim vs Plague.

>>53462353
The Chaos Space Marine faction focus article mentioned some shit about Khornate Berserkers.
>>53462363
I didn't mean they were bad, just individually they were not as strong. Don't you get like nearly twice as many plague marines?
>>53462383
Can't we fire our plasma pistol and boltgun in same turn now? Plus also fire plasma pistol whilst in CC?

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>>53462339
>She who thirsts
The Eldar would seem to disagree. The prince of pleasure has many names.
Also see
>>53460717
>>53460638
>>53460684

>>53462339

>She who thirsts is a guy

Slaanesh uses either pronoun, but has she in her very name so that's what I default to, especially since it makes her more distinct from her brothers.

Plus, everyone knows she's actually a futa.

>>53462364
>both AM Stratagems and AM Stratagems
sorry meant GSC and AM

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>>53461560
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT COMIC WHEN?!?!!

>>53462421
>Slaanesh uses either pronoun
Is Slaneesh a Tumblrite?

>>53462421
>using his >>>Aeldari name, not his Daemon Tome name

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>>53461718
>new faction
they're as much of a new faction as death watch are.

>Sold old 40k stuff recently because I haven't been able to play for years ever since college stared and I began my job
>Now find myself getting interested in 8th and have finally found people in my gaming wasteland of a town.

This is pain, especially since I kinda want to do primaris marines because they look like they'd be a small force but also want to maybe do a renegade guard army.

>>53462405
I forgot to mention I'm doing it per hit, then it's 1/3 to wound, 1/2 to fail the save and 2/3 to fail DR or 0.11 wounds per hit.

Are primaris marines literally "what else can we steal from starcraft?" The army?

>>53462408
>The Chaos Space Marine faction focus article mentioned some shit about Khornate Berserkers.
It's most likely that they're porting the blood tithe rules from KDK to the main CSM book for khorne players. They mentioned the Blood for the Blood God rule by name so it's almost guaranteed.

>>53462421
She Who Thirsts is what the eldar call slaanesh, slaanesh refers to itself as a "prince" whatever that is. I guess it identifies as royalty?

>>53462350
Except this time it's all in the same book

You want them to repeat the Faction-wide special rule on every single datasheet instead of putting it in one reference page?

>>53462339
Can an avatar of a concept have a gender? Is Khorne not just an amalgamation of the thoughts, feelings and primordial concepts of bloodthirst, honor, and martial skill? Why would such a thing take the simple yet absolute form of a gender or for that matter any other appearance?

The Dark Gods are little more than the fever dream of all life in the galaxy, and perhaps the universe.

>>53462339

Slaanesh is a god from a dimension where shit is literally not supposed to make sense.

Slaaneshi daemons are often hermaphroditic.

Slaanesh defies human concepts of sex. Slaanesh embodies male and female alike.

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>>53462041
Does this go for forgeworld models too? I kind of want to use this monstrosity.

>>53462477

This is a common misconception, "The Prince" is what Slaanesh calls her penis.

>>53462472
kek/10

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>>53462339
Slaanesh is one or the other or both or neither.

>>53462353
>>EC get ?

We get Sonic Weapons. We've always had them, and honesty it's time the other Chaos cults got god-specific weapons too.

We should just be able to get Sonic Weapons (at cost) on a much wider variety of units.