Horus Heresy General /hhg/

First for 7th is better

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Thanks for the game, Alan.

>>53459186
>RIP based Alan Bligh edition
No Alan picture, you failed opie.

It is a sad day thought. RIP Alan.

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KNOCK KNOCK CONTEMPTOR KEKS
BOW DOWN TO YOUR BOXNAUGHT MASTER

>>53459186
Good summary my man

>>53459225
RIP Alan. He always seemed like he would a really nice guy to chat with.

>>53459225
F

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>>53459186
Comfy summary, anon
>>53459225
>HH1: The Bligh Knight rises.
Nurgle keep you, sweet prince.
F

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Well, now that we know we're going to be living in the hell that is 7th Edition a little bit longer: I had asked in the previous thread that I was looking to do some work on my BaC Termi Praetor. Is there a decent all around loadout I should aim for? I don't mind a bit of converting.

>>53459225
F

>>53459225
RIP in peace.

>>53459334
Paragon Blade and Combi-Plasma/-Melta is generally the "best" loadout.

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>>53459334
>All around Termi Praetor
4++, power fist and combi-melta seem capable of dealing with anything. Master-craft and add digital weapons as you will.

>>53459225
Might find a suitably fat head and gs some long hair a goatee and stache on it for a sargent or something

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>>53459248
Yeah, my bad. I have made one for the next thread. Hopefully he is now far from all the autistic screeching, one way or another.

>>53459448
Good, anon.

>>53459186
Good night, sweet prince. We`ll missing.

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>>53459334
8th doesn't look great; you can't seriously call a game where you can place a trio of predators rear-armour facing adjacent to each other and it makes no difference

Staying in 7th would be fucking disastrous though. They'll have alot of time to make a 7.5ed with Alan Bligh no longer available to write Angelus though.

Rip Blighty >>53459186

>Some cool historical UM fluff was posted
?

>>53459186
May the Blighnade rest in peace.

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>>53459267
There are moar better things to be excited about, anon.

>>53459563
Click the numbers that're underlined in the first post.

Not to continue the maudlin shit, but French has quite a good write up of how based he thought his mate Bligh was:
http://www . john-french.com/2017/05/alan-bligh-remembered.html
Better than ADB's crying.

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I finally did it. I finally got done with the Legionary Generator after nearly a year of college and procrastination.

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>>53459225
I missed the news.

What happened to him

>>53459544
If facing mattered so much why didn't you ask for infantry to have them?

Don't be a hypocrite. 40k works best as abstracted beer and pretzel game because there's too many fucking models on the table and gameplay too slow to do anything deep with it.

>>53459758
Cancer.
Don't fuck with resin.

>>53459737
It wasn't finished? What's new?

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>>53459758
He passed away.
>>53459802
>It wasn't finished
Yeah. The last time I did something to it was before college sidetracked me, and then I just goofed off when I had time to do more to it.
>What's new?
This is just the first version of it.

>>53459225
F

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>8th ed won't ruin the things you lov-

>>53459957
>Boxnaught 209
>Ruin

>>53459267
Redemptor looks good in most ways except for the dumb tacked-on looking gattling weapon on the power fist arm. That really ruins the model badly. Other than that, it looks like a boxnaught that could actually function and move. I like it.

>>53459957
I liked ED 209

Also continues the struggle of spacemarines vs stairs

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>>53459957
Even that marine to the right is shocked. It probably has enough dakka, and don't get me started on the legs.

>>53459957
>Giant fuckhueg plasma cannon
>Fist with gatling wotzit
>Two twin-linked big bolters
>TIIIINY missile pod on top.

We want to put a bunch of weapons on this thing, but we want all of them smol.

>>53459957
40k general is here >>53457088

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>>53459957
>there are faggots who don't like this new model
>there are people who don't appreciate RT style dreadnoughts coming back
Newfags the lot of you.

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>>53460046
>>53459957

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>>53460046
Here I thought FW was going to make the modern Eddie. Shows what I know I guess.

>>53460046
oh shush

>>53459957
Love it, old boxnought will have a special place in my heart but this beauty is awesome, Im getting 3 when it comes out.

>>53460126
t. Newfriend who doesn't remember the glorious days of rouge trader and can't appreciate models influenced by them

>>53460119
Eddie is the Deredo. Chuck is the Contemptor. They didn't make a Fury, they made the Levi instead.
>>53460154
To say the new Primaris is a spiritual successor to the old guys is a stretch and then throwing on that if you don't like it you're just new (itt of all places) is a poor show.

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>>53460179
>Eddie is the Deredo. Chuck is the Contemptor. They didn't make a Fury, they made the Levi instead.
My mistaken. I have forgotten a lot of things.

>>53459957
>walker
>towers over Primarines
>5-6 guns (is there a gun in the palm of the fist?) of varying shapes and sizes

We truly are Tau now.

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>>53460226
What on earth is a Primarine?

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There were only three people at my store who played 30k, myself included, and never more than two at the same time. We made do facing other 40k armies.

Horus Heresy is now dead in the water at our store.

>>53460008
Yeh looks like it's trying to shit out a new one
>>53460012
Custodes are gold in 40k so ...
>>53460046
A dick is modelled on a pussy, doesn't make it anymore feminine
Anyway I have that model

>>53459737
I don`t understand this Range/Weight/Conbat Rate stuff. What is this?

>>53460241
Primus marines
Mk X marines
>>53460245
>going to stores

>>53459571
Holy fuck I want a gatling Sicaran for my Scars now.

>>53460241
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/26/new-warhammer-40000-primaris-space-marinesgw-homepage-post-4/

>>53460179
>To say the new Primaris is a spiritual successor to the old guys is a stretch and then throwing on that if you don't like it you're just new (itt of all places) is a poor show.
It's very clearly based off the eddie, you'd be an idiot to deny that. Sure, you don't have to like it and the stuff about people who don't like it are newfags is mostly just shitposting on my part, but it's definitely closer to the eddie than the contemptor is, with some stuff from the casterferrum thrown in.

Both this and the contemptor are the new eddie, but this one is definitely closer to the look. Not that that means contemptors aren't great, I love the little round fellas.

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>Trying to watch alien
>slaanesh appears in ads

>>53460046
I thought the contemptor was supposed to do that?

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>>53460261
>Yeh looks like it's trying to shit out a new one
Now that's colorful.
>>53460263
One Anon made a better version of the Knight Errant Generator after the one I made didn't work too well, and remember getting advice to put that on this. But that was a while ago and my shoddy memory can't remember much.
>>53460274
>>53460289
Marines times 2. Of course GW would do that.

>>53460274

Oh forgive me for not living in a wide suburb with plenty of people and space for playing 30k.

>>53460365
>Marines times 2. Of course GW would do that.
Where are my primaris-centurions dammit.

>>53460348
Eh... this is closer.

>>53460388
You ask for the impossible.

>>53460365
>Marines times 2. Of course GW would do that.

Welcome to a few weeks ago.

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>>53460402
>>53460427
>mfw learned GW continued to be GW
>mfw a piece of a tooth got chipped off
What a good Saturday.

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>>53460295
Sure thing bro.

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Would black primary and gold trim be acceptable Imperial Fists colors? Is there any heraldric reason for the IF colors or just Dorn wants everyone to his boys are there to fuck them up?

>>53460543
I'm fine with them. Anyone who doesn't play Space Marines isn't losing anything and there's always the salty, salty Marinefag tears flooding /40kg/ when they're not the center of attention anymore.

Is there any list type Mechanicum can't pull off reasonably well?
Infantry Blocks they have Thralls and Peltasts.
Elite Dakka they have Myrmidons
Mechanized they have Triaros, Macrocarid awesomeness.#
Tanks they have Macrocarid again, the Archimandrite, Krios and arty batteries.
Airborne they have Vulturax, Arvus drops and Lightnings.
Nidzilla they obviously have Cybernetica.

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>>53460649
But they could have came up with something better. Only plus side of today is that I learned the next book is coming out. I knew I was feeling something.

>>53460640
A thread or two ago someone painted a force of Fists primarily black, and veterans seem to favour black bits/largely black armour. Go for it and post pics

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>>53460731

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>>53460890
Garrison Legions 4 lyfe

>>53460388
>being sociable
>not converting those few friends you made when you were 9 because none of you had friends 4 years into high school

So what are the chances of the Emperor model/rules being released before the Siege of Terra? Could we potentially get a War in the Webway black book?

most competitive terminator force? someone recommended DG

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So, on the one hand, new custodes shit like the Aquilon and the air transport, a variety of new vehicles for the legion, a AoS rpg and Titanicus.
On the other hand, no 8th for HH, Bligh is gone and the both firepikes and solarite weapons look like shit.
Not sure how to feel about today.

>>53461034
DG, TS and IF.

>>53461039
fuck me that's an awesome Indomitus Pattern.

Do you think they can be converted to a Chapter Master?

help anons. mechanicum fag must be destroyed! who does it best? legion, units, wargear, i need the lot!

ultimate beep boop missing please

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>>53461039
>a AoS rpg and Titanicus.
>Titanicus
please elaborate.

>>53461081
Aquilons are Cataphractii.

FW just decided to be shits and redesign the shoulders and flamers, because fuck you, we're just gonna give you a taste of old to make you moist, then go in hard for your cash.

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>>53461095
Have you been living under a rock, anon?

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>>53461091
Lots of plasma, melta and lascannons. IW have Iron Havocs, expensive heavy support squads with limitations on equipment, tank hunter and BS 5. Load them up with lascannons and missile launcher (comes with all three missiles included) and go to town. IW rules benefit a shooty playstyle but you could use their ROW to advance also.

>>53461081
Just buy Huron. He looks fairly similar and does match the space marine aesthetic.

>>53461170
>horus heresy Epic Armageddon
want

Who know some book about Ordo Reductor in HH and Great Crusade?

Anyone got plans on converting the 30k army lists to 8th once it drops? Say what you will about the direction of 30k, I just want to be able to play against 40k armies.

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Orion gunship: 13/12/12, flare shield, 2x tl Lastrum boltcannon, missile launcher, tl arachnus blaze cannon, room for 14 guys, agile, deep strike

>>53461299
crossbreed of Barracuda and Shtorm Eagle, but nice

>>53461278
Yeah, I plan on doing so for my Custodes; should be easy enough as they'll be getting most stats for 40k anyway and I don't like their tanks. Some weapons here and there, dreads and termies, maybe a hero or two. Done.
Also, franky, fuck FW for not progressing to 8th.

>>53461278
I'll probably just play my TS as tzeentchy flesh chaos marines. 7th ed is such garbage.

I'll buy Magnus model but until the conversion, I'm not touching 30k

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>>53461278
>Say what you will about the direction of 30k
I will. It's a bone-headed move and I hate it. Fuck it all, why does FW have to be this bloody stupid?

>>53461278
Eh, it's a lot of work and getting people outside your immediate circle to roll with such is a huge hassle. I guess I'll grin and bear it unless some hero on here does it for me.

>>53461091
Why'd he need to die?
The important thing here is what variant he plays.
Against boops you want Lascannon, Sniper Vets, a decent chunk of plasma, Assault Cannon if you can get them, Dreads do OK, etcetera.

Against Reductor, we hate Dreadnoughts with a burning passion because a lot of T5, Podding Melta for artillery, maybe some graviton to pound Macrocarids and Secutarii/Adsecs with AP4 blasts.

>>53460913
are you me?
>>be young and in anime club, get roped into 40k.
>> eventually "grow up" and become to edgy for the animeclub, stop playing and get rid of all my childish shit.
>> grow up to be over 20 years old and stop being a fedora wearer, kick my childhood friends in the nuts and give them partial armies and offer to paint their shit as long as the shuffle some plastic with me.
>> now we play HH and 40k.

>>53461272
Sadly there aren't any, anon. Decima on Istvaan III, that's it. We don't get nice things, it's always the Marines, and when Mech does get to fight it's the Cybernetica.

>>53459781
Facing is much more a facet of tank-combat than it is infantry combat.

Simplification is necessary for the game, and it could do with either that or less models. As people will simply increase the points limits, simplification it is, but they've went too far by removing what was a good layer of depth.

Did we get to see any new Dark Mechanicum models?

>>53461278
I'll do it for an exercise more than anything, although it'll likely cripple my TS.

>>53461412
It's possible with enough groundswell that a fan-made list becomes commonly accepted when GW/FW fail to deliver on that specific front. Just look at Heralds of Ruin Kill Team or the countless amount of fan support for all of the Specialist Games.

It probably wouldn't even be very hard to make, considering that most vehicles and weapon options will get rules in the Imperial Armour Index books. The only hard part is converting Legion-specific rules and characters.

>>53461386
They clearly had a discussion about either
A) Finishing the legions and then converting the whole system
or
B) Postponing Angelus and spending the next year doing nothing but converting the whole system.

Bear in mind converting means the model releases probably would have stopped for brand new stuff other than legion cosmetics.

So what they're doing is continuing to support the current business while (very likely) several of the team work in the background converting the system with a planned release date of greater than one year but less than oh, three or something.
Remember to follow the ££££$$$$

There was probably a bit of paralysis as well considering the head of the design team and chief writer developed cancer.

>>53461686
The new psyker rules will hurt our TS plenty as is. We'll probably have psyker explode every other turn and take a bunch of guys with him.

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>>53461888
Don't 8E psyker rule boost the hell out of TS? Considering their basic power and so on. I wasn't ever a fan of using psykers mind you (had a hard time wrapping my mind around the rules, not sure why they specifically bothered me but maybe my name is secretly Ra Endymion).

>>53461776
I'm mostly interested in what changes they'll make to 7th in the new red book. Fucking with psyker disciplines would go a long way toward balancing TS.

>>53461912
In what possible universe? Psykers have now a ~5% to take d3 wounds on cast, which means for psyker units that one of their guys invariably straight-up explodes and then causes another shitload of wounds to his unit and anybody close by. A independent psyker that took a sniper round to the face will probably be wary of casting anything ever, since chances are he'll take wounds on miscast, nor will he hang out near other psykers for fear of a chain reaction. The fact that most disciplines are probably gone and replaced with individual powers and/or Smite will not help matters.
It sounds horrendous and I totally look forward to it.

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I think the Emperor should have used a three headed eagle for his heraldry. That is more eagle than the Emperor's Children could handle.

>>53462095
>every time you use psychic powers there's a 5% chance of exploding yourself and your buddies
The Emperor and Mortarion were right at Nikea.

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>>53462124
>3 heads
>wings
>legs
>golden

Just apply feathers.

>>53462124
Why not use a four-headed eagle?

>>53462124
do you think if they had more heads the EC would have stayed loyal?

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>>53462292
We can do better.

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>>53462283
It can work.
>>53462292
Because Eagle hydras do not exist.
>>53462293
Possibly. A third head would have reminded them that anything more than three is too excessive and Slaanesh wouldn't have gotten its claws into them. And since we're on eagles I'm going to post this.

Do you guys think it would be possible to fit demon Magnus on a 60mm base? I know 40mm is out of the question.

>>53462367
A five headed eagle?!

>>53461959

>balancing TS

Playing them will probably be pointless if every psyker not named Magnus has a good chance of exploding

>Horus Heresy is staying in 7th
Well that does it for me. I'm glad that Fires of Cyraxus is going to let me bring my beepboops to 40k.

>>53462431
Not in a million years, mate. The guy is Knight-sized.

>>53462465
Certainly looks like one, what country / religion went for the Eagle-Hydra as a symbol?

>>53462293
Yes, if the Emperor had given Fulgrim head he would have stayed loyal.

What was the crowd's reaction when fw said they are sticking with 7th?

I'm curious whether how much of the hate is echo chamber

>>53462754
I'm fine with it. Seems like a lot of the facebook groups I'm on would rather stick with a modified 7th.

>>53462711
I don't know if anyone has tried that. I'm going to assume that's everyone agreed that an Eagle-Hydra was too crazy.

>>53462841
I'm asking about the whfest crowd reaction.

>>53460890
Black and yellow (as opposed to the typical yellow and black) Imperial Fists always look so much better.

Well done anon.

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>>53461299
>>53461332

What if people are looking at it the wrong way?

It's known, for instance, that the Tau got a jump on their technology by studying the contents of an ancient Imperial ship. It's also known that a bunch of Imperial vessels crashed and burned during the mysterious plague that created the Prohibited Zone near Ultramar, which killed anything human with the power of PLOT. What if the crashed ship was a Custodian ship, and all the tech the Tau have are in fact imitations and extrapolations of Custodian gear, explaining the visual resemblance and equivalent power level?

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>>53462929
Makes too much sense to be honest.

>>53462929
Seems stupid

>>53462975
>Seems stupid

So perfect for GW?

>>53462929
Why would a custodes ship be away from Terra?
IIRC the storm started M34.

>>53462377
>Because Eagle hydras do not exist.
Even in the Emperor's personal service, I am Alpharius.

>>53462929
That seems like a reasonable explanation.

>>53463026

Not the warp storms, the Prohibited Zone plague from Tempest. That happened during the Great Crusade.

>>53463039
Well, I guess we can cross it off the list of possibilities then.

>>53463056
So the custodes ship just sat mouldering on T'au for 4k years and it was still in a good enough condition to base an entire civilisation's tech on?

>>53461776
According to people who attended the seminar, FW declined the move to 8th because it lacked the depth to do what they wanted with the black books. An altered version of 7th will be the engine pushing them forward from here on out--remember that they want AT LEAST 15 books total.

>>53463105

It's not unprecedented. Otherwise nobody would search for archeotech.

>>53463105
Dude, Imperial shit is built to last. You can throw a bolter into a swamp for a milennium, pull it back out and it works just fine.

>>53463105

Considering the little blue niggers found it on their second planet, it's even easy to spread throughout their civilization, before their expansions.

>>53463105
Why not? We had plenty of cases of bog-standard imperial shit sitting for ages in some hellhole and when people rediscovered it they just had to turn the ignition key. With high-tech gear in stasis-fields and such it'd be even more likely.

>>53463127
They thought the same as I did, then.
The 8E core rules seem to have just wholesale removed anything minor that needed a roll or table- Consolidate is 3" flat, Reserves need no rolling, deepstrike doesn't scatter, blasts have no Templates, no more sweeping advance, no more falling back/morale tests in favour of Battleshock, no WC allocation for psyk, pick your powers/Wtraits, fixed To Hit in melee, no Initiative, they've just generally hacked bits out of the game and called it simpler. For the most part it makes no difference, but it's a lot less stuff to mess with with a more in-depth ruleset and keeping nineteen instances of the same army balanced yet distinct from one another.

>>53463127
>because it lacked the depth to do what they wanted with the black books
Yes, primarchstars in spartans sure require a lot of depth.

>>53463239
Can't you just stuff as many squads as can fit in 8th anyway?
Anyway, here's hoping FW will switch the AP system at the least.

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>>53463127
Haywire spam, deathstar spam, custodes bullshit, phosphex mortar spam, vehicle spam, etc etc etc etc......... D-E-E-P

>>53459225
F

I fear for the future of the Heresy, as no-one else had his dedication to it.

>>53463127
>remember that they want AT LEAST 15 books total.

Ie that's how long they think it'll take people to get fed up and stop buying this shit.

>>53463213
And why exactly couldn't that nuance be addid without some tables or random values? With a move value, AP, fixed to-hit rolls and alternating melee order alone you could fuck around with so many legions.
>Iron Hands
Ignore AP-1, half distance when Advancing.
>Word Bearers
Roll a d6 whenever a model from a unit flees, on a 5+ it stays its ground and remains; +1 to consolidation and advancing.
>Sons of Horus
Reroll to-wound rolls of 1s; when arriving from reserves you can set up at least 7" away from enemy models instead of 9".
There, this shit is easy.

http://titanownersclub.blogspot.nl/2017/05/warhammer-fest-2017-adeptus-titanicus.html

Who know name of this this legio with so many-many skulls and skeletons?

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Boys and girls, loyalists, traitors and blackshields alike, it's time for one of the most time-honoured traditions of wargaming! Baselessly judging people based on what factions they picked! I'll get us all started.

>Sons of Horus (Loyalist and fucking pissed)
>Iron Warriors (Pretty loyal)
>Iron Hands (Morragul)
>Imperial Militia
>Deathseekers Blackshields using my SoH/IH/IW because fluff and they're weathered enough to look the part

>>53463323
Man, the AP system alone would be a huge step in the right direction.

>>53463485
1. Xana Mechanicum&Vegio Vulturum (Xantite is the best!)
2. Legio Mortis
3. World Eaters
4.Custodes&Sisters

>>53463449
no you're wrong it's impossible stop trying reee

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>>53460649
>Anyone who doesn't play Space Marines isn't losing anything
Not like Tryanids ever won anything that mattered, but now they're full meme faction.

>>53463480
bump

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>>53460890
>>53460731
>>53460906
>>53462904
>Black and yellow (as opposed to the typical yellow and black) Imperial Fists always look so much better.
AHA
YOU KNOW WHAT IT IIIIIIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWAGLkyxQG0

>>53463351
How do you spam Haywire, and what the hell good is it besides killing the aforementioned Deathstar Spam? Hoplites, Vulturax, IH Support Squads, that's about it.

>>53463449

Would be a tad hard to make the Primarchs differ much, although you could port most of their abilities over straight up.
I admit you could probably get most of them delineated nicely, I was just thinking you'd lack the nice complex web of interlocking systems you get with a few of the armies in this. I rescind my earlier objection, although I still think the order of things goes Heresy 7th > 8E > 40k 7E. We'll have to see more of the 40k books, get an idea of what you can do with the armies other than the three variants of Feel No Pain we've seen so far, all with different names.

To all the people who think HH should have moved to 8th.

What are you even smoking?

Alan Bligh Passed away yesterday. Also, this game that he poured his life into and these massive leather bound guilt edge rulebooks full of his words aren't going to be suddenly invalidated.

Good. If you want to play 40k play 40k. I have no doubt that everything that isn't a named character is going to get 40k rules in the Index books anyway. Forge world likes to sell models. Now we at least have a meaningful choice of what game we want to play.

>>53463105
This is Warhammer we're talking about. People find ancient shit that has been lying around for millennia fairly often. That a Custodes dropship (or something similarly advanced) got caught up in the plague outbreak and crashed within the limits of the Tau's homeworlds is hardly a stretch.

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>>53463449
oh look a random anon in 5 seconds can come up with a half decent and flavor ruleset that would be compatible for 8th, but people will defend inferno and the decision to stay with 7th HAHA!

>>53463599
>muh honour his memory
>muh legacy
Jesus Christ, anon.

>>53463603
>>53463599
Kek.

>>53463546
You are a man of impeccable robotic taste, prefer straightforward solutions and have a liking for bright colour schemes.

(Legio Vulturum? I was looking at those, do you have any Titans ready? How did you paint them?)

1. The Genetors, inc. cannon fodder Militia.
2. House Malinax Knights
3. Pupative Word Bearers (currently a Calth Box on the way)

>>53463485
>not one, but two loyalist traitor legions

Shameful. Clan Morragul is based taste however. Tell us about your militia though anon.

>>53463546
XANA GET
World Eaters are okay too I guess

>Dark Mechanicum
>Death Guard (traitor, obv)
>Imperial Militia (Traitor, Cyber-Augmented and Survivors of a Dark Age)

>>53463557
Did the Crud write this?

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>>53463599
mate most of the black books rules content is invalidated by the newest ones, this is why we have constant red book revision each year. Holding up black books as anything other than really nice fluff repositories is a strawman. lol at turning hobby books for toys soldiers into pseudo martyrdom receptacles. Evaluate your life anon.

>>53463584
WTF, that guy rapping literally sounds like he has downs.

>>53463599
>Do not look to me for a reasonable AP system. Do not look to me for balance. I am not the kind child of this new edition. I am the rock of its foundation. If you wish for balance then look to what we make. If you wish for fun then look to the edition that comes after me.
-Alan Bligh

>>53463599
>Forge world likes to sell models
Since the Mechanicum shit still doesn't have 40k rules years later, I have some doubts in that regard.

>>53461091
>Iron havocs
Thallax are vulnerable to autocannons like they were plasma guns, and they lack range.
>Tyrants
Castellax are vulnerable to missile lawnchairs.
Myrmidons, stronk as they are, are vulnerable to missiles as well.
>Warnings
You'll need lots of anti-av
Magi are too strong to try and kill them in melee, ask Cóatl. But they lack good enough transports
Mechanicum are surprisingly fast with Jetpack troops, deadly scout Vorax, and bullshit machine-killer flying-artillery Vultarax.
Deepstriking Hoplites are a thing, your Spartans are invallidated
Peltasts have AP3 rifles. Seekers just barely reach them. Combined with Thanatars, fotslogging is a no no
Mechanicum have shitty anti-air interceptor, but Vultarax make more than enough good anti air

Say, anything more specific?

>>53463599
Don't bait this hard over a guy's death, esp when he was the main guy of the system we all play. It's just low class.

>>53463743
They follow the market for the easiest money is perhaps the more accurate thing to say.

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>>53463721
>sounds like
Oh, so he doesn't actually have it? Maybe it's the weedz. It was either that song or a bee movie song for black & yellow troops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSYHkb6CO7o

>>53461447
>unironic anime clubs
When did America become so cucked people thought foreign culture were superior

>>53463557
How is this different from anything previous? Even Tau took care of a fleet with 0 casualties.

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>>53462929
>explaining the visual resemblance
Custodes look like eldar and their skimmers, not Tau and their walkers ft railguns. Hell, Valdor even looks like an almond-faced Eldar.

>>53463713
Oh, yes, the 4chan bubble where it's massively important to behave like some sort of dystopian robot.

Can you imagine what would have happened today if Tony had, just after explaining that Alan had passed on, said "In other news, we are scrapping the Heresy and starting again with an 8th ed compatible system".

There might have been a riot. Partially, because even though you don't seem to understand the basis of human emotion, it would be in bad fucking taste. Partially because Damn those books are expensive.

But even if you want to analyze this on a purely mechanical level. What's gained by converting 30k to use the same system as 40k, exactly?

Now you have a meaningful choice between playing 30k and playing 40k. It means forgworld has it's own in house ruleset. Something it has badly needed, so it doesn't have to bodge it's game to cope with changes made by a separate team. It means I don't have to spend time and money rejiggering my heresy armies and the same time as rejiggering my 40k armies.

The only argument I can see is from the minority of people who want to play 30k against people who play 40k. In which case, it really looks like forge world are going to make rules for most of the 30k marine units for 40k armies anyway.

I know we'll not moving on to the 8th anytime soon, but if and when we move on will Tartaros be obsolete? I mean no sweeping and shits.

>>53463750
>too strong to try and kill them in melee
Really? Personally I shit myself when my Archmagos gets in a scrap with anything above a poorly-equipped Centurion, given he's 300-something points. Should I be less scared of the Paragon Blades? He does a nice line of beaten-up dropvets, though.

>>53463845
>Valdor's model is different than his official portrait
What did FW mean by this?

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>>53460890
How did you paint the yellow?

I want to test out the black and yellow Fists scheme on a test mini tomorrow. Need to paint some dead IF for my IW dudes bases.

>>53463862
i mean, perty's first portrait looked drastically different from his second one and eventual model

>>53463856
They'll just have Move 6" as opposed to Indomnitus' 5" and Cataphracti's 4".

>>53463889
>4" move
Age of mandatory Spartan incoming?

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>>53463846
aw anon you think $100 book is an expensive hobby purchase, cute. Have you ever paid for any other hobby that isn't toy soldiers? cause $100 is fucking nothing. Shit I pay more for a good restaurant meal, fucking poorfags.

>>53463846
Dude, I know you are trying really hard, but sometimes you should really think a bit whether your bait is maybe a bit too obvious.

>>53463925
>not deepstriking your cataphractii
[Doesn't laugh in stoic]

>>53463925
Any more than it is now?

>>53463839
>Farshight kills all the Tyranid planet-bound air support with 80 Crisis suits
Kek, the madtau.
Will Tyranids ever not be a meme, for once? Muh great devourer.

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>>53463862
Visons of Heresy? More like visions are heresy.

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>>53461034
DG are a good choice.

Salamanders since they got Firedrakes.

Sons of Horus too with their Justaerin.

>>53463925
Would make no difference where I play. I'm actually thinking of getting a Droplite team just to see if I can shift the meta a bit, every game seems to be "move tarpit of choice towards Spartan, fire two Basilisks at everything else, occasionally fire a round of footslogging Imploders at whatever gets close, Archmagos has enough spare time from repairan and shootan to build his own personal wanking bastion complete with multi-terabyte data storage."

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>>53461448
Or the upcoming Darkmech.
Loyal Reductor characters? Decima is the only one in the galaxy, and he kind of ends up excomunicated and goes his own way.

>>53463846
What's gained by converting 30k to use the same system as 40k, exactly?
What is gained by seperating them, apart from making the game even more difficult to get into?
But thank god you can keep all the shit baggage from an ill-conceived system cobbled together from detritus accumulated over several editions. That crap is *important* and makes things truly meaningful instead of an exercise in patience and masochism.
And Blight for sure knew about the incoming edition change for years just like everybody else on the design team, so what does that have to do with anything?
And, yes, I know I'm responding this hard to obvious bait, but fuck it, this shit pisses me off.

>>53461516
>Simplification is necessary for the game
Pfff no it's not. If anything, 8E goes AGAINST simplification by getting rid of Universal Special rules and going the FW way of "the rules are in the unit's entry".
Mind your cover + save - modifier + command stratagems which is actually the bit of 8E I wanted for 30k.

>hur dur keep 30k in 7E

You dumb faggots, if you wanted to go this route, you should have clamored for them to keep it in 6E

>>53462168
>>53462095
>TS would have finally been cucked by 8E
Worst alternate future.
Dammit ADB.

>>53464098
I'm honestly surprised it took them this long to divorce from 40k. My understanding is that they were FURIOUS at 7th because none of them were permitted to actually look at it until around the time of release.

>30k isnt going to 8th
COCK
SUCKER

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>>53462849
>>53462711
>>53462367
YOU THREAD A DANGEROUS PATH

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>>53464062
Decima's both the only Reductor character and the only Loyalist character, he's kinda pulling double duty. I want Zagreus Kane flanked by Young Cawl, Arkhan Land and Decima getting all up in the Traitor's grills and I want Kelbor HaI standing opposite him flanked by Scoria, Draykavac and Satarael.

We've never seen a Magos fight another outright IIRC aside from Kotov vs Telok, and that hardly counts as a 1v1. I want to see the Power Rangers showdown for the fate of Mars. Put it in the Temple of All Knowledge for thematic points, too.

>>53464119
Yup, and you can see where they tried to sabotage some of the changes.

Handing out precision shots like candy.
No you can't use more then one detachment.
No, you can't have stupid formations of formations.
You really shouldn't use random cards for your objectives.
No, you can't summon demons randomly.

>>53464119
Yes, well, the FW team apparently also got furious at the fact that a 40k model, the AdMech Magos, got a volkite weapon and delayed further Mexhanicum stuff for 40k for a while.

>>53464184
Hello, Palatine Goose.

>>53464066
Stop being a fucking mug

>>53464119
Apparently FW is really easy to piss off, so, hey, whatever. It's not like they are particular paragons of internal consistence or balance.

>>53463666
We are wolves once more, brothers. Plus I have a boner for stubbornness against insane odds, KYR MOTHERFUCKIN VHALEN and the first three HH books.

As for militia, they're survivalist alchem-jacking hive worlder types. Think Messian Chem-hunters or House Orlock and the Van Saars. I like to run them as SotDA or Cyber-augmetics and Alchem-jackers, with a roughly platoon-sized group of militia taking objectives and doing the trenchwork alongside combat servitors, some grenadiers parked in heavy ruins or in arvuses to get ODST'd into the thick of things, all with plenty of discipline masters to go around and a handful of Russes led by a chem-munition Malcador. They lack the sheer amount of bodies that a lot of Militia lists have but I find they get the job done.

>>53463955
>tfw SoH still don't have teleportation transponders
[cthonic screeching]

>>53464062
Whatever happened to Decima after he went full [binaric reeeee] and became semi-rogue? Cyberundead Morturg survived the Heresy at least iirc, and kept watch over the Ghoul Stars. Also Arkhan Land, Kelbor Hal and Zagreus Kane stats when? We need more loyalists and old fluff guys for the AdMech.

>>53463239
>>53463351
The depth FW wanted available, not the depth you used it for.

>>53463603
>and the decision to stay with 7th
Three Legions haven't gotten units, characters, and Primarchs yet. That's a perfectly good reason to stay with 7th.

Finish what you start before taking on a new project.

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>>53464243
>Apparently FW is really easy to piss off,
They're just upset still about 30k things being ported into 40k.

>>53464293
A good example is Blackshields.

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>>53463485
>>Iron Warriors (Pretty loyal)
This be truth
>>53463666
>XANA GET
Check em

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>>53463557
>>53463839
>>53463977
Remember when Nids were actually competent and scary?

>>53464342
Alternatively, don't waste resources on shit you know will be tossed in the bin when you're done.

>>53464344
>you can be anything from gene-altered marines like corax's raptors, to space pirates, to possessed and cyberzombies, to mercenaries, to pocket empires or shattered legions
>people just use it for the cheap +1S/T and good melee infantry, or the option that turns every marauder into mini Death Company which is admittedly pretty sweet

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>>53464372
Not really, no. I haven't been in this hobby as long as you have. I know them as shitty zerg :^)

>>53464372
I love that story.
>>53464411
Nice get, Al.

>>53464391
FW shouldn't have made the other options shit in comparison

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>>53464372

No.

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>>53464424
You and your psychic sight.

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>>53464343
WTF is this? Are they using live action to get cutscenes for more pachinko machines?

What happened to Pert's sister?

My guess is she died at Pert's hands, but can someone spoil this for me?

>>53464450
It's slowly coming back. Thanks for the sallet.
>>53464467
The Slavic spirit is unbreakable, even if nuclear energy and possibly typos are in the mix.

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>>53463485
Srry, I don't understand how to play this game. I like loyal IWs, like all FW does, so what do I say?

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>>53463739
FUCK YOUR GOOD QUALITY PROPHETIC POST >:'(

>>53464344
Yes, just as much as Milita, which could be used represent pretty much anything your imagination can place in 30k.
Not that any of that matters, since *everybody* that plays militia uses it to spam the shit out of artillery and rapiers, just like everybody that plays blackshields uses chymeriae.

>>53463485
1: Iron Warriors
2: Talons of ze Spess-Kaizer
3: Dark Angels (as soon as GW releases a BaC/BoP style kit for MK II, that is)
4: Individual Models That Look Cool, Mainly World Eaters But Some Other Legions Like Night Lords

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>Adeptus Titanicus is confirmed plastic
>knights are cataphract sized
>"soon-ish"
Fucking finallyicious

>>53464372
Lamenters are chumps.

>>53463623
I keked

>>53464483
He chocked her to death before her throne.

>>53464542
What legion is that? It has to be one of Xana's legions, because that head is also in some of the Xana images.

Why has FW got such a boner for Xana all of a sudden?

>>53464542
looking forward to the new AT Knight and the old Epic Knight size comparison

>>53464584
>Why has FW got such a boner for Xana all of a sudden?
>why does FW have a boner for their OC donut steel
Let me tell you about Tartaros armour which is superior to Indomitus in every way.

>>53463846
30k is not getting its own rule set. its getting a 20yr old bloated archaic turd that is less a game system and more a repository of many deep endless layers of descriptions they have the audacity yo call 'rules'.

a slight tweak of 7th will at best some further clear up of a few of the subtle transition issues where earlier 30k rules were built for 6th.
Polish that turd

>>53464584
Well, it's either Legio Vulturum (Gore Crows) or Legio Kydianos (Death Cry). Either way, looks pretty damn cool.

>>53464612
I'd go with Kydianos. That screaming skull fits the moniker Death Cry very well.

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>>53464265
>I like to run them as SotDA or Cyber-augmetics and Alchem-jackers, with a roughly platoon-sized group of militia taking objectives and doing the trenchwork alongside combat servitors, some grenadiers parked in heavy ruins or in arvuses to get ODST'd into the thick of things, all with plenty of discipline masters to go around and a handful of Russes led by a chem-munition Malcador
Sounds powerful. A defiant come-and-get me list

>>53464563
Could you elaborate just a little bit?

>>53464542
>Adeptus Titanicus is confirmed plastic
Link? I can't see anything that says it will be Plastic.

>>53464612
Damn it I saw it as Legio Voltron and was super hyped.

>>53464689

He confronted her beneath her symbolic seat of power, wrapped his hands and digits around her windpipe, and crushed the life out of her via asphyxiation.

>>53464722
She became new Tyrant of Olympia or something? Or revolted against Pert?

>>53464658
>MaSade
Damn, I love this battle even though the Mech lose. Glorious and massive armies beating the ever-loving shit out of each other and generals matching wits in history-book form with storytelling flair and drama. This, plus Istvaan V, is what the Heresy should have been, not the Primarch soap opera it devolved into.

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>>53464584
That symbol ain't Xana's. FW does love animal skulls, though.

>>53464707
I fucking wish. Although given there's a Legio Pallidus Mor on the Forge World of Tolkhan, it may well be out there somewhere.

>>53464639

Well, gives me an excuse to paint some baby Titans for the Pale Wasting Expeditionary Fleet, anyway. Seems like a cool game so far, and I liked them more than the Crows.

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>>53464542
can't fukken wait.

I seriously hope the Lucius Patterns, and more patterns beside that make a return.

>>53464751
Dammekos shittalked Pert and the Imperium while the Fourth were crusading. Seeing as they recruited (and lost) more Astartes than any one Legion, probably more than any two or three together, all from a single world, the remaining population suffered and so were susceptible. When Dammekos died the various once-independent city-states split into two blocks with a few neutral outliers. One block wanted to renegotiate terms with the Imperium, another wanted to secede. Perturabo went full autist however and slaughtered most of the population and enslaved many of those that surrendered. I'm not 100% if he set the new slaves free in the end or if his sob-isode at the end didn't actually have any consequences for the Olympians. A number of Iron Warriors died as they refused to turn on Olympia, And I shed a single tear as poor, valiant young Fortreidon took the first steps down a dark path.

>>53460558
I am not sad that I missed Rogue Trader. Christ.

>>53464837
I want the Anvilus-pattern Titans.

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>>53464837
Wasn't that model used as inspiration for the newest Knight? Pic related? looks about titan sized, too

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>>53464861
HH3 implies he raised elite regiments out of post-rebellion Olympia. 85% f the population was either enslaved or killed.
>And I shed a single tear as poor, valiant young Fortreidon took the first steps down a dark path.
He can't be older than 15, man. Emperor keep us.

>>53464861
So the sister was on secede side I presume?

Thanks for the detailed summary btw

>>53464900
The Porphyrion was supposed to be the old Warden, which is a totally different beast how.

>>53464861
I don't understand why many fans in my local club think Pert did nothing wrong and Olympians deserved it.

>>53464973
The usual reasons, Pertuarabo and the IW have become increasingly tailor-made to appeal to autismos who fancy themselves calculating and misunderstood. As you probably have instantly grasped, there happens to be a large amount of people like that in a tabletop wargame community.

>>53459571

Looks even better in the flesh (was at warhammerfest today)

At first I thought it was a conversion, but confirmed as releasing "soon" at the forge world seminar

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>>53464952
I think her kingdom actually didn't really emit any comments on their position. But she does call him on his shit, and she told him his awful truths.
Perturabo ends up realizing that he lost the moral grounds when he killed both the seccesionist and negotiator representatives. So used to be the Emperor's breaker, it didn't come to him that he could have solved the problem with diplomacy instead of going full autism.
Posting random page.

>>53465008
Well at least at the end Pert realize he's Chuuni teenager.

> And yet he goes "Dad will not forgive me evar" mode and side with Horus.

>>53464973
Sanguinius burned a whole sector of obstinate worlds. Fucking up rebellious planets his pretty standard Primarch material.

>>53463485
Word Bearers (Osseous Throne in name).
Abhuman Helot Cult Horde (Beastmen).
Daemons.

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>>53464905
>>53464973
"Salty" Jago Keck is the Warsmith of the 73 Grand Company. Originally of Terran Origin, he lost his leg and earned his moniker on the world of Xue Germ, a death world of salt and acid constantly set alight by it's proximity to it's star, kept from destruction by the immense gravitational forces holding it together.

For a long time after the Legion was reunited with the Primarch, he kept his peace as the men under his command became more and more merciless. Olympia and later Isstvan saw his fading loyalties die a horrific death as children and brother Astartes died in ignominy. As his ships broke away from Horus' scum, unleashing their fire on the vulnerable outer elements of the fleet he voxed across all frequencies:

"That's it. I've had it. I do not wish to be dramatic but it's time for me to fly away."
As his victims strove to fight back,
"Terrific. Fine, but here's where I draw the line. I have no wish to aid pitiless monsters such as yourselves any further. I was a fool to follow you thus far, and now I am "cutting you loose" as the saying goes. Goodbye, such is life, hope all goes ill, and now I am looking out for the interests of our species."

>>53465122
You really did get triggered pretty hard, didn't you?

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>>53465072
Yes, but what Perturabo ends up saying is "I probably could have solved everything with diplomacy instead of removing 85% of the population".
Like his sister tells him, he had extremely high expectations from everything and anyone. Even for mortals. Even for him. Especially him.
She tells him
>You could build a perfect world, only to find that its only flaw is the people that live in it.
And that's not too far from what he did to Olympia.

>>53464757
>Horus Heresy
>being focused on the primarchs and legions

ohh noo why would this happen, who could have seen this coming.

HH was always about the primarchs and legion civil war. Are you just going to keep whining every time mechanicum show up and dont totally stomp face?

Mechanicum and militia are getting more attention than the early versions of the heresy where they were barely a footnote.

>>53465145
FUKCIGN FORTREIDON NOH Y U DO DIS REEEEEEE

>>53465122
>"Salty" Jago Keck is the Warsmith of the 73 Grand Company...he lost his leg and earned his moniker on the world of Xue Germ, a death world of salt and acid
>This is the End intensifies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIrvSJwwJUE

>>53465122
>"That's it. I've had it. I do not wish to be dramatic but it's time for me to fly away."
As his victims strove to fight back,
"Terrific. Fine, but here's where I draw the line. I have no wish to aid pitiless monsters such as yourselves any further. I was a fool to follow you thus far, and now I am "cutting you loose" as the saying goes. Goodbye, such is life, hope all goes ill, and now I am looking out for the interests of our species."

Cringe.

>>53465197
Fair enough, I ripped off his fluff while drunk to the point of nausea and binge-watching Disney on YouTube. Something about it seemed to fit the perpetual bitterness of the Fourth.

>>53465122
Gotta ask because those parts are making me fucking wet.

What kits have that gun, pauldron, helmet, and legs? Is this the power of Chaos kits?

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>>53465173
Because those were his orders, and Astartes weren't made for mortal vanities of heart and home.
:'(

>>53465222
>I ripped off his fluff while drunk to the point of nausea and binge-watching Disney on YouTube
Still better than some of the new GW fluff :^)

>>53465223
Everything except the volkite, chainsword+arm/pauldron and backpack is GW's Iron Warriors Warsmith model for Chaos Space Marines. They also have (used to have?) a Night Lords Hero with a combi-flamer and power fist and a EC Hero/CHaos Lord (?) with a sonic shrieker, organ back pack and (I think) a power sword + plasma pistol combo.

>>53465223
The gun is a volkite charger from the GW Tartaros Terminator kit (or FW's bulk kit). iirc, the marine is an older GW IW Warsmith mini (head, torso, arms and legs). CSM backpack, shoulder looks like it came from a GW SM Command Squad kit.

>>53465223
I think the chainsword-pad is from the SM command squad's champion

>>53465156
Legions are fine, Primarchs are fine, and Mech losing is also cool, since we always have more Forge Worlds, but I'd appreciate if we won just occasionally. Xana was cool, more of that.

I don't give a fuck about whether the armies are Legions, Militia, Mechanicum, Navy or space centaurs from beyond the galactic rim, I just like grand strategic overviews and cool tricks and descriptions, rather than the whole thing being centered solely around 18 dudes who lol though anything that isn't another one with ease and get great introspection into their schizophrenic characters and inconsistent background while engaging in duels that will always lead to fuck all because we know almost exactly what happens to them.

>>53465302
Xana got completely fucked and lost 2/3 ordinatii. How is that winning?

>>53465302
Sarum will win against the Dark Angels, because we know Sarum survives to 40k.

>>53465195
>OrdoReductorfireworksdisplay.noosphere

>>53465340

Their navy did a pretty good job, then they got ripped up a bit, then Scoria tore apart half the assault force without even showing up himself and dealt with the other Ordinatus. They didn't exactly win, but they showed that the Marines couldn't afford a slugging match and put up a decent fight.
Although IIRC the Mechanicum haven't had an outright win in fluff yet against any Marine force.

Is Scoria the only nobody-out of nowhere-suddely-assraping-Primarchs?

>>53465409
There is that Raven Guard, Sharrokyn.

>>53465409
Legio Custodes Tribune, but in rules, that's it,
In fluff, we haven't even seen the guy fight anything yet, so we have no idea whether he'd win or not, and I suspect his plot armour is a good deal weaker than the writer's pets.

>>53465379
its almost as though marines are just better than mechanicum ;)

>>53465421
>had clear shot at Fulgrim's temple with special armour piercing rounds
>fucked it up

>>53463485
>Luna Wolves (fucking pissed and ready to go on a loyalist warpath)
>Select mechanicum/imperial army detachments(still working on fluff)
>Rescued Knight house(still working on fluff
>additional shatter legion remnants of Pale Nomads, Blood Angels, Emperor's Children and Death Guard, and pretty much and pre-primarch loyalist, yeah it's ambitious

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>>53465421
But that was McNeil stuff.

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As someone who wants to play Custodes can someone give me a quick rundown on their strengths and weaknesses?

Best and worst units?

Best overall use of the army?

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Got dat RED

>>53465741
2fast4me

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>>53465717
Your units need to be large enough to weather shooting and attrition. 5 is a good size for your troops. Elites are even more OP than your troops and should focus down what you - NEED - to die. If you use the Tankibune or possibly Valdor people might call foul, but fuck them.

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>>53459225
F

good night sweet prince, may he find peace with the big edition War in the sky

>>53465636
>Medical examiners didn't get to her body in time before it decomposed

What the hell manner of undead abomination was his girlfriend and where can I find one?

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>>53465817
Florida. It's America's Eye of Terror. We can't kick them out of the Union as they'd become pirates, and start raiding the coasts of Southern states.

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>>53465636
He was found innocent? JFK
>>53465877
>Implying they don't already do that
They're part of the Bermuda Illminati after all

>>53465958
>He was found innocent?
Sounds like the prosecution had literally no evidence.

>>53465877
Are you actually unaware of why Florida has its reputation or are you just memeing?

>>53465958
>He was found innocent? JFK
Floridians are Floridians.
>They're part of the Bermuda Illminati after all
It'd make them be more open about it.
>>53465975
Their state doesn't keep their records private like most states. Also the drugs and weather.

Anyone mnow where I can get fuckhuge left-handed sword? I need a paragon blade for shield captain Artorias.

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>>53465636
>Unlike patterson, the Jury wasn't hung

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>>53459186
You hear that 30cucks, all of your rule makers should just die because they take all the attention away from the good game systems

>>53465958
Okay, I'm beginning to suspect Florida is one giant secret vampire coven and they just=use some creepy mind tricks to make people think it's sunny when it's as dreich as the Transylvanian winter all year round.

>>53466067
Is that AoS general?

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>>53466067
10/10 guaranteed replies I also like to live dangerously

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>>53466079
>beginning

>>53466083
Yes, as proud, you had 5 years of resin and made on the spot, so let us have some fun

>>53466079
That explains too much.

>>53460101
To be blunt, what is there that he can't fap to?

>>53460241
The Adeptus Restartes is GW's latest cash grab. Seems Girlyman did some real planning and improves the SM.

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>>53466001

Actually sir, as a native Floridian I can attest that I have, indeed, been shot in my sleep no less than twelve times, each time more pleasant than the last.

On the third occasion of my unanticipated kill shotee-ness, I had the mind that such occasions would happen more frequently, and so I chored myself with becoming a happy face about the hospital closest to my estate. The doctors and nurses would lift a happy jig at my admittance. I was especially appreciative of the tender attentions of the exceptionally 'professional' nursing staff.

After my sixth occasion I had habits of it. Intentionally arousing her ire would earn me more visits to the hospital, where my then-employer would pay me to lounge about the place, wooing the exceptionally beautiful nursing staff and caroling with the doctors of all professional mindfulness.

Unfortunately, my joy was, like the horrible Ottoman 'empire' that I took to harassing during my early days in the Floridian army entourage of President Andrew Jackson, very short-lived. My wife had discovered my ploy by examining her handiwork and discovering her previous 11 projectiles had only formed a hard plate upon my noggin to prevent further injury. She then dealt a blow far more grievous than even Jefferson's navy did upon Dey of Algiers' (Damn him) forces (Damn them); A certificate of divorce.

I was thrown into such a depressive state that I was incapable of developing my joys further at the hospital, the melancholy of which was only broken when weeks later, I re-discovered life as a single man. By the truth of every word I speak, Florida is a wonderful land despite its decidedly Spanish origins, though only peasants of foreigners despise it for their own perceptions of popular television! Uproariously inaccurate, and an endless source of mirth for us living in God's own paradise.

>>53466100
The worst part about that post is the 8% battery.

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>>53466264
What.

>>53465063

Hes a little shit is what he is.

>shit talk Dorn the entire time for wanting to build forts and societies more than learning how to tear them down better
>ends up lacking the tools and wisdom necessary to save his homeworld properly

The real irony is Dorn's billion planetary fortresses and its humble garrisons of loyalists slowly ate away at Perty's elite horde, just enough to shape the fate of the Siege of Terra. Turns out a strong enough foundation can survive an earthquake.

>>53459957

I'm enjoying all this nerdrage over what amounts to a mass produced Leviathan.

Dorn is up next it seems.

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>>53460890
Thanks for posting for me anon and they are actually primarily grey with black knees and trim the yellow is just averland sunset also got some more done

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>>53466264
>Unfortunately, my joy was, like the horrible Ottoman 'empire' that I took to harassing during my early days in the Floridian army entourage of President Andrew Jackson, very short-lived.

>>53466384
Says who? I would have put my money on one of the Angels.

>>53466384

Dorn will most likely come last. He will be more or less THE hero of the Siege of Terra.

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>>53466594
>He will be more or less THE hero of the Siege of Terra.
Doubtful.
What was he doing, besides saying "man the walls here, man the walls there"?
Reminder Dorn never fought Horus.

>>53466594
You forgot Sanguinius. He is THE embodiment of all that is noble about Primarchs. You literally piss all over canon if you forget about him.

http://battlebunnies.blogspot.com/2017/05/rogal-dorn-next-forge-world-primarch.html

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>>53466634
>He has promised that the eagle framing his head will not be obscenely big too!
WHY FUCKING BOTHER THEN?!
FW is rotten to their core.

>>53466622
>>53466626

Chill, Sangyfags. Your Primarch is coming next with enough rules to solo Aporcupine Knight on the tabletop.

>>53460890
I really like the orange.

>>53464372
So you want to floss your army by having them literally squat ANOTHER ARMY?
What kind of cunt are you?

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>>53466663
>with enough rules to solo Aporcupine Knight on the tabletop.
Remember when "First Among Equals" used to mean something?

>>53466712
Horus was overall the best, but he was frightened of Sanguinius' fighting prowess.

Talk to me when Horus kills a phantom titan.

>>53466504
looking good man!

>>53462510
I don't think Perils needs to be more punishing, I just think that the psychic tables need to be rebalanced back to the way they were in 6th along with powers getting selected instead of randomly rolled for.

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>>53466707
Remember when Tyranids basically ate all the UM First company stationed on Macragge, the Imperial Navy was the one who actually saved the day and they had to turn one of their capital ships into a void grenade in order to trim the hive fleet to manageable numbers, and the aftermath of that war was the exterminatus-tier loss of some worlds and the creation of the Tyrannic war veterans?
Meanwhile, the BAs deal with stuff in sentences
>Yeah, 950 BAs died in a Space hulk
>Yeah, the warp did a switcharoo with the whole Hive fleet for Guilliman's fleet.
>Yeah, Ka'Bandha killed the tyranids on the moon.
>Yeah, Guilliman killed the tyranids on planet Baal.
>Yeah, Baal's moons don't even have proper names. Isn't Luna called Terra Secundus?
Show, don't tell. But whoever wrote this was "don't even tell, it's just a text box on the side of a cool pic or something".

>>53461299
This is a classic GW/FW picture where their teaser photo is almost literally the worst possible angle to use.