Pathfinder General /pfg/

What's the closest Pathfinder class to a 3.5e Warlock?

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>>53031888
I hate this meme

>>53031888
My character's siblings died when the zombies came

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>>53033064

Avowed.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B5HkyGRtGZy3T3lfQThtVDRkMU0

Warning, it's on par with bards and inquisitors, not PoW classes!

Is there a guide for major drawbacks? I found one for traits and regular drawbacks, but (I'm guessing since it's third party) there aren't many resources for major drawbacks.

Why the fuck did you assholes bump this thread? Use the other one, let this one rot.

>>53031455

>>53033331
Major drawbacks are 3pp nobody uses.

>>53033331
No, but I'll write one for you right now in the other thread.

What is your favourite adventure path?

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>>53036597
Zeitgeist.

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Since it seems this will be the new thread,


What kind of Android would you guys like to play as in Starfinder?

Pinocchio IN SPESSSSSS trying to learn what it means to be their own person?

A Star Wars AI forging a new path after its owner passed away?

Some poor ComBot who has found out that the only available body it could afford is the opposite of what it was programmed to do?

What classes have the best conceptual synergy with being a Chain Devil? I really want to whip some people to death.

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How would you justify trying to set up a bakery or restaurant staffed by catfolk and kitsune?

Won't their fur get in the food?

>>53037073
Kitsune poster por favor,

Tell me if they would buy cooking supplies from a clownish Half-Dragon girl? She's recruited a few Kobolds and their looking to set up a real, legitimate business.

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>>53037121
Depends on how clownish.

>>53033064
Alternatively, just take a 3.5 Warlock with d8 Hit Die, adapted skill list (reduce Tumble and Jump to Acrobatics, etc.), and more feats. 3.5 Warlock probably benefits quite a bit from being imported into Pathfinder.

Is there any way to gain permanent energy resistance at early levels?

I just want fire ink tattoos.

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>>53037157
Clownish enough to get a letter of business authorization from the Guilds and the Governor! She's a bit of a ditz, but the Kobolds haven't missed an order in the two months the place has been open!

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>>53037070
There are dockworkers in little Ustalavic towns with newsboy caps.

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>>53037073
They're fucking the owner, so they get the job

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>>53037233
There are women who dress like this.

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>>53037256
There are bogeymen dressed like this.

>>53037307
>>53037256
>>53037233
Are we sure these aren't people from Paris? Because I recall that the AP in question goes there at one point.

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>>53037231
She's also the ugly kind of half-dragon.

>>53037320
Paris is only in book 6, and these aren't from Book 6.

Golarion is just fucked up with anachronisms.

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>>53037329
>>53037307
So I guess it wouldn't be so bad if I try and get away with something this. After all, Ustalav's, what, just a few days' ride down the Sellen from Brevoy?

>>53037073
>trusting filthy demi-humans in food service
No sir.

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>>53037307
Why stop there? Let's put the women in 19th century suits too.

>>53037359
Normally I find that idea hot.
But fuck me that art is singularly unflattering.

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>>53037349
>>53037359
This douche from Absalom is clearly in a top hat.

>>53037376
Where the fuck is this even from.
Why is he Colonel Sanders.

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>>53037324
Don't be species, Kitsune poster. She had to work real hard to get where she is!

>>53037307
Which book is he from?

>>53037385
Book 3.

So in strange eons do you actually meet H.P. Lovecraft? Also if so do they mention the death of his mother? Which in the timeline should have happened during or just before the events of Strange Eons. Her death is likely one of the things that really pushed him over the edge.

>>53037349
It would be wise to take especial care if you're planning a trip to Ustalav. I imagine the locals won't take kindly to those of your...sort there.

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>>53037359
One of the Harrow cards has a rakshasa in a 19th century suit.

>>53037429
Pfft. When I make it big, they'll shut their mouths when they get a look at my wad.

So apparently my GM wants us caught between several different demigods trying to influence the fall of an empire we're currently working for.

The emperor is one of the demigods and one of only two known to the general public (though they don't know he is a demigod). We've now encountered 7 total.

Apparently he has a hard on for tarot decks. We've met:
>The Hanged Man (the emperor)
>The Fool
>The Lovers (Actually two demigods)
>Wheel of Fortune
>Judgement
>Temperance

I'm still trying to determine how we don't simply get BTFO. We're level 7/mythic 2. As far as we can tell all the demigods are a lot stronger than that.

>>53037459
Rule of escalations

If the Demigods act, they invite threats of their level or above.

Working through proxies is safer and keeps them at a distance from issues that may force their hand and expose them to getting a lucky arrow in the face

>>53037471
And they'll generally try to coax the aid rather than force it at gunpoint like a certain Antipaladin goddess in Wrath of the Righteous.

Because while YOU might not have the power to take them down right now, any wise demigod will do well to remember that they were probably in that same exact spot not all that long ago. Even when these guys aren't a threat, it's only a matter of time before you run into something that IS.

And when that happens, you'd best fucking hope it's not something you used to bully that remembers the blood debt.

>>53037446
If the wad doesn't shut them up, you could always cow them with your mighty lance

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>>53037593
Possibly. But I really prefer a big ol' sword.

At any rate, an amazing weapon.

>>53033282
My character prolly brought those zombies

>>53037606
The TV series was very interesting in regards to his weapon.

Notably, Golgo himself is always on the bottom being ridden, doing none of the work, the shadow-butterfly that makes his face unmoving as ever.

Meanwhile the women are just... raping *themselves* on him, impaling themselves to the height of ecstasy as he watches the ceiling, expressionlessly, like some ancient immortal being who's long grown utterly devoid of any attachment to this realm of existence.

>>53037687
>interesting
Yeah...that's a rather charitable way to put it.
Any true warrior would show a lot more enthusiasm.

>>53031888
>Even if you didn't, talk about your characters' brothers and sisters anyway!

She's got 10 brothers and sisters! The oldest was probably the most important to everyone, and he was very brave, but stubborn, and quick to anger. Fiercely protective of his family and his realm, he died in an ill-advised attack on the troll clans, and it's haunted her ever since.

>>53031888
The closest I've gotten was close cousins. We were both fourth sons of noble families, the Virrin and Kor-Virren. Being fourth sons we were sent for education in the clergy.

>>53031888
It probably doesn't count that I became blood-brothers with two other PCs at a significant turning point in the campaign. But I treated them like kin anyway.

>>53037739
Another PC became my character's brother in law.

>>53037746
>cucking your friends out of their siblings

Nice

>>53037938
does
does that
does that word even mean anything anymore? because it certainly doesn't mean what you think it does.

>>53037938
>not fucking your imouto
>current year

So I have been trying to look this up but there have been discussions on both sides of this issue. Are pistols considered light or one handed in terms of two weapon fighting? Some say they are light in consideration to crossbows and how they are light when fired one handed. Even the hand cross bow is mentioned. Others say that because it is listed as a one handed weapon it is one handed. But another counter point is that no ranged weapon ever had this classification of light, one, or two handed labels.

What you do guys think? Also has any of the Paizo people mentioned this anywhere?

>>53037953
see >>53037954

>>53037961
I treat them as light because shooting two guns is cool

>>53037953
Sisters belong to their brothers
Brothers belong to their sisters

>>53037352
I know, right? I prefer my food 100% human-free.

I meant free from humans, not free humans, that would be sick

>>53037961
In real life, trying to fire a pistol of any appreciable power one handed is going to break your wrist
But also in real life, firing a wheellock with one hand isn't that hard, although reloading those types of weapons certainly take both hands
In other words, do what you feel is cool

>>53037998
Speaking as a brother to a sister: Somebody PLEASE take that bitch off my hands.

>>53038014
>having a bad imouto
no

>>53037978
Yes it is cool, now let's say you solved your reloading problems of getting it down to a free action and having a hand free, how many attacks can you get if you combine two weapon fighting and rapid shot? 3?

>>53038022
No, you can easily unload 9 attacks

>>53038022
Solve you problems with two pistols of the infinite sky, ez pz.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75524/paradigms-shadows-and-light

What's that 8th~ level Fighter with teleport-full attack trick?

>>53038027
I don't get your math here, can you walk through it?

>>53038048
TWF line at top levels gives you 7 attacks, 4 mainhand 3 offhand

add rapid shot and extra attack from haste

9 shots, enough to murder most enemies straight up because of how slingers work

>>53038041
Dimensional assault?

What does hex use look like? What are the somatic and verbal components of something like Misfortune?

>>53038038
Too obviously satire.
They need to work on their subtlety.

>>53038069
Now what about the double barrel pistol? That is 9 shots but with 18 bullets? Hell what about the dragon pistol? Now that is 9 shots with however many enemies you can fit in your attack cone.

Fuck, no wonder some GMs don't allow Gunslinger's in their games.

>>53038038
Man, their formatting is fucked.

>>53038107
dragon pistols are pretty fucking bad, 15 foot cones are tiny

Double Barreled guns are pretty gamebreaking and should be banned, yes

This is the inherent problem of the gunslinger, its either a game-raper when all its shit is online and blows enemies out of the water harder than an optimized paladin, or just garbage.

You can really see how Paizo's design chops have progressed from their early classes to their later ones.

>>53038041
Speaking of fighters and full attacks, as a magic guy I have floating disk. Is it a move or standard action to direct the disk around? My idea is to have the fighter on the disk and I just move him around in the battlefield so he does not have to waste actions moving and he can full attack all day.

As a magus I also use full round actions but in the future if I was a wizard, I would help my buddy out. If it is a move action, I would move him around and still cast my spells with my standard action. If it is a standard action then it is moot I guess.

>>53038147
Floating Disk moves at your speed and follows you around, it can be no further than 5ft away from you

>>53037961
RAW, they're onehanded. Hand crossbows have a specific exception.

>>53038123
Double barelled guns got nerfed boyo.

You can't fire them both amid attack actions or full attacks anymore, it's a Standard action to do so now if I recall correctly.

>>53038107
Also recall the misfire chances here. Double barelled and scatter guns have worse misfires than normal, and any misfire will stop your full attack fucking dead, forcing you to stop and fix it.

>>53038182
oh, well thats good

I've kept very poor tabs on gun rules

>>53038163
The spell says "If not otherwise directed, it maintains a constant interval of 5 feet between itself and you." But you are directing the floating disk so it would not stay at 5 feet? So at the lowest level it has a distance of 30 feet. So you direct the disk to "move" and stay at the distance of 30 feet. Right next to an enemy. Where your fighter can smack it. Of course if you move out of that range then it follows you. Keeping that 30 feet spacing.

>>53038170
Light Crossbows are two handed but are considered light when one handing it. This was also the point that was brought up. But light crossbows are not considered two handed. But it mentions light handed cause of the interaction with two weapon fighting.

>>53038147
That's pretty funny

>>53038147
No one has answered my question on what action it is to direct a a floating disk.

Another thing that I thought up. Is the 3 feet above a surface a flat 3 feet, or no more than 3 feet? Can the floating disk go lower than 3 feet? Can it go 0 feet? I ask because then I don't have to wait for the Fighter to climb aboard. I can scoop him up on a magic carpet ride to behead some goblins.

>>53038307
Thats because it doesn't say anywhere what kind of action it is

based off of other spells like Flaming Sphere i would i guess its a move action?

How does sniping work with full attacks?

>>53038316
If that is what we have to go on then WIZARD MAGIC CARPET UBER RIDES ARE NOW A GO! NEXT STOP, THAT GOBLIN'S FACE!

Now my next question is the 3 feet thing. Is it a set distance or a maximum. SEE THAT FIGHTER? YOU ARE GETTING A FREE RIDE WITHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.*scoops up the party fighter*

Trying to see what it would be action economy wise. If they don't have to waste a turn getting on it, this would be very ideal.

>>53038343
It doesn't

>>53038348
They would probably have to step up onto it

Which sniping are you talking about? There are many references to sniping. Are you talking about how many times you have to roll stealth to stay in stealth?

The two situations are after every attack or after all attacks are complete.

>>53038366
>>53038343
Forgot to reply.

>>53038366
How many times you roll to stay in stealth, or if you can full attack out of it at all or if it just sneak attacks on the first hit and then not on the others.

>>53037938
That's not how that works at all. That's not how anything works.

The entire point of "I like you. Come over to my house and fuck my sister" is that you are, at least subconsciously, accepting to join your family's bloodlines. If this person was of the opposite gender from yours, you may even pursue them yourself.

It's a same-generation version of setting your children up together.

>>53038535
mfw you are a dude bro with your party bro and wish you could be closer but no homo. So you set your sister up with him so that he becomes your true bro. But twist he has been trying to set you up with his sister. So now you are double true bros. Seriously no homo.

>>53038561
My parents and godparents did basically that.
Father and his best friend's little sister, and said friend turned out to have been getting shotaconned by dad's older sister (five years difference and she started 'using' him when she was in highschool) since before my parents even started dating.

>Meanwhile I'm sitting through this thinking "oh fucking gods I've read like four doujins with that storyline"

How the fuck do people without full BAB get by attacking? How do the Rogues and Hunters and Magus of the world operate?

>>53038600
I mean if you should also post those doujins just as reference points. For scientific reasons. <_<

>>53038635
I'll not do this on a blue board.

Okay actual reason is I can't do this because work filters sadpanda in the "someone's about to have a chat with you" fashion.

>>53038629
Well for magus they can spell combat so that is 2 sword swings if you choose a spell with touch. Sure you get your iterative attack later than the party fighter but you have still have ways to catch up. I mean I have a hell knight party member that does big damage. But with my crit magus I can keep up and sometimes surpass his damage output.

>>53038644
My balls will be blue if you don't post something.

>>53038683
Uh, one of Rustle's 'little girl' series involves two girls fucking eachothers brothers.

On Ustalav anachronism.
Around the time Strange Aeons takes place the nation is going through first phase industrial revolution thanks to science becoming more predominant.

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Anons good morning

do any of you feel like having an existential crisis

i'm having an existential crisis

>>53038841
Why, is it because nyaa died

>>53038875
>nyaa
I don't know who that is but anon i'm sad and having a crisis and dodn't know what to do

what do I do anon

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>>53038925
The biggest anime tracker in the world just died and all the weeb boards are imploding
Mourn with me.

>>53033064
The Cryptic is effectively warlock+ with a psionic flavour. They pretty much get an eldritch blast which can be modified to do some funky shit as well as spell casting

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/classes/cryptic/

>>53038991
It's extremely weak in terms of blasting however. Woefully weak.

The class also suffers from not being particularly good at anything it focuses towards. In many ways it's a fairly weaker bard you might say

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>>53038934
Oka y anon I'll mourne with you

do you need a hug

>>53038875
>>53038934
Wait what?
WHAT?

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>>53039065
>>>/a/156706399
There were like sixty other threads yesterday, troll the archives.
thank you for sticking with me all this time
Also Minglong is dying soon according to the HS guy, grab your shit fast

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... Oh gods.
Sukebei really is gone.

They... they can't do this to me. Where am I supposed to find hot thin pregnant creampie porn that doesn't involve 200lb grannies without my JAVs?

My cock is sad for good.

>>53039124
Oppaitime
Pop onto /hgg2D/ fast and try to fill one of the remaining slots
Just do the picture if you haven't been on a private tracker

>>53039111
>1200 posts
Jesus mcchrist

>>53031888
Friend of mine and I have played sibling characters on two separate occasions, once as a stereotypical knight (Friend) and his adopted, looking to steal the knight's claim to nobility brother (Me). The second occasion was as an antipaladin of not!Khorne (Me) and a witch devoted to not!Tzeentch (Friend).

Both times were fun, had good dynamics going to keep it from being boring.

>>53039336
I hope that by "good dynamics" you don't mean that creepy incest vibe that only-children use whenever they imagine having a sibling.

>>53039532
In anime
>O...onii-chan... daisuki...

In reality
>wtf asshole? Fuck you! I wanted to watch that! I'm telling dad you fucking grabbed my ass, dickface

How do you eat the least amount of shit as a Paizo content only kineticst?

>>53039336
Nope, never came up once for either pair.

>>53039532
I could only wish to have that creepy incest vibe with my sister. My sister is fucking fantastic in all senses of the word and the best older sister one could hope for.

>>53039602
avoid wood and void at all costs.
avoid overwhelming soul like all worst plagues combined

>>53039602
Use all your feats to get an animal companion and spirited charge. Charge attack with kinetic blade now deals double damage. Enjoy being a walking delete button.

>>53039650
My sister is a fatter me with much hairier legs. She does NOT have the "nice personality" a mother always uses to sell their daughter to the blind

>>53039672
I feel sorry for you, and yet also a bit envious. My lovely sister is married already to a loving husband. She's not perfect, but I'm sad that she could never have been mine.

>>53039532
What if I actually have a sibling and the incest vibes are still there

Is flaming sphere effected by the Draconic/Primal Sorcerers?

Can I use empower spell on it?

>>53040093
Then my cousins agree you have excellent taste.

Can you make unarmed attacks with your penis

>>53031888
>that dude that insists on playing family members with other players every time
>micromanages their every move and metagames out the ass

Fucking creeper.

>>53040232
RAW yes and no technically.. It's feet, head, knees, fists, elbows. But there is no stopping you from fluffing it like that, but that's just being a retarded randumb CN player.

>>53040468
something something 24in greatclub

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71521/the-great-bamboozling
Reminder

>>53040524
Kill yourself.

>>53040542
The hell crawled up your ass today

>>53040512
A knob that large would deal somewhere along the lines of 5d10 CON Drain every time a boner is achieved.

>>53040555
You did.

>>53040577
*punches your rectum from the inside*

>>53040580
Thanks babe. Felt great.

Still, kill yourself.

Tell me your character's darkest secret, /pfg/!

>>53040630
He once didn't give his leftover steak to a puppy

Saw someone talking crap about 'Living Campaigns on the other thread. What's wrong with them? I just applied to one and nothing seems too out of the ordinary except for the lack of lewdness

>>53031888
My sister and I did this one Gencon.
We had siblings playing Sibling Dragonborn. We were pretty bad ass. She played a cleric of Kord, I played an executioner axe Fighter.

It was a gencon pickup game and the GM was shocked at how well we pulled it off. Don't know why. Since siblings played siblings.

>>53040666
You'll see how bad they are after a few weeks, maybe earlier. I've yet to join one that wasn't awfully run with GMs bullying players or just boring in general.

Is there any way for a Witch to cast off Charisma

>>53040795
Be a Sphere Caster

Granted, I don't think that changes what you use for Hex saves.

>>53040795
>>53040860
Personally,since going from Int to Charisma is such a downgrade, I'd let you do it for free.

>>53040921
Charisma is the best stat.

>>53040938
Only if you cheese the hell out of it to get a bunch of niggling +Charisma to shit.

As far as casting stats go
Con>>Wisdom>Int>>>Charisma

>>53040958
>be a succubus

Do I lose all my armor and shit if use Giant Form since it's a polymorph effect?

>>53041021
Succ.

>>53041021
DSP monster classes are so hilariously goddamn broken I don't even take them into consideration. No sane person would let you play one. In any event that falls under "niggling +Charisma" to shit."


Seriously, why would they print that? Is there ANYONE who would seriously bring a succubus to the table for any reason other than "I want to get off"?

>>53041060
Memes and they seriously did not seem to have any actual competent editors until recently. I kinda liked their True Dragon, but would almost rather just play a half-elf with the spheres transformation feat if I wanted to be a dragon, just because it'd be less of a headache.

>>53041060
powergaming

>>53041151
>y a half-elf with the spheres transformation feat if I wanted to be a dragon
Why Half-Elf specifically?

And maybe this makes me a boring faggot, but I'm honestly not too keen on the whole "take sphere transformation feat and just permanently stay in that form and say I'm that thing" method of doing shit. Way too messy and there's still a lot of mechanical mismatch going on.

Then again I'm also not too keen on the idea of PC's being Dragons/Straight up monsters period.

>Life After Undeath Wild Talent isn't associated with Void.

This is bullshit.

>>53040222
which cousin? your brother or your sister-wife?

>>53041227
Half-Elves have arguably the better deal with the doppelganger-spawn ART, and with drawbacks on magical training, you can swipe some extra potential traits for when you grab improved transformation down the road.

>stay in form and say I'm that thing
Honestly, in this case it would be more like trying to play a half-dragon than an actual dragon. Having a monstrous form that isn't locked behind per day use is my jam. Fucking let me have my one cool shapeshift, paizo. I don't want full wildshape, motherfuckers, just ONE DECENT FORM. WHY DO YOU KEEP KNEECAPPING THIS CONCEPT.

>>53040630

He thinks women belong at home making babies and strengthening the household, he doesn't say this out loud because his party includes a very strong Barbarian woman.

>>53039650
>>53040005
Sounds like you've already got that creepy incest vibe down, anon.

>>53041357
Because to wish is vancian.

>>53040572

Not to mention the only things he could comfortably have sex with are giants, centaur and dragons.

>>53040630
She's a vegan

>>53041404
Disgusting.

>>53041396

And to dream is divine!

>>53041357
>Having a monstrous form that isn't locked behind per day use is my jam. Fucking let me have my one cool shapeshift, paizo.
Now this shit I can get behind.

I really want to make a claw fighter build, but the way natural attack works pretty much shits all over that.

Maybe I'll just shelve it for an E6 or E8 game where it won't be much of an issue. I just want to be a viable natural attacker without needing to look like a fucking tyranid to do it.

>>53041342
His daughter/great-granddaughter, child of the daughter he had with his daughter born of his sister

>>53041399
Unless he is under the effect of any size increasing effect, at which point the Oliphaunt of Jandelay is to only thing he can bone.

>>53041420

Nah, he just needs to find bigger dragons and titans.

Point is, having a prodigious pecker is more a problem than a boon.

>>53041416

Isn't that from an anime game series?

>>53041415
You want to know how to be a "claw fighter"? The only actual RAW, 1pp way?

>be a Catfolk
>Take the claw ART, have 13-14 Str and lots of Dex
>Pick up two sets of claw blades and the twf feat chain
>take the racial feats for claw pounce
>you are now a claw fighter using weapon rules

>>53041462
>be a Catfolk
And like that, you lost me.

I'm already aware of that method. I just really, really dislike Catfolk.

>>53041462

You could also be a Ratfolk and take the Sharpclaw feat.

>>53041482

Why is that?

>>53041482
It's shit, and should not be Catfolk exclusive, but it is because paizo is dumb. You could be your GM to let you take the stuff with a different race, but RAW even the claw blades are Catfolk-exclusive.

Your only other hope is just not being a Fighter.

>>53041499
I really dislike furries. And I really dislike kenomimis. /pfg/ really didn't help in that regard either.

Having trouble deciding on a race for a Magic Item crafter.
I've narrowed it down to two: either Samsaran or Boggle, which is a 3rd-party race that my DM would certainly allow.
Samsarans have a +2 Int and a +2 to two skills, while Boggles get a +2 Int, +2 to one of a few skills (can't be Spellcraft but can be Craft), but get a racial feat that lets you ignore the crafting feat requirements of magic items by adding +5 to the DC,
Basically, it comes down to trading a +2 to the check or not needing the feats to make things.
Is not taking the feats for items good enough to skip a +2?
To complicate matters, my DM uses a homebrew system where burning experience lets you take bonus feats, skill ranks, and other things each level, so I could potentially hit level 1 with 4 bonus feats.

>>53041524
>wants to build natural attack user
>hates furries and kemonomimis

I feel bad for the hell that must be

>>53041524

Fair enough. Doesn't give you a lot of options for what you're looking for, though.

>>53041342
The fraternal twin bro-sis combo that turned me bi.

>>53041461
It is, but fuck if I know the name.

>>53041524
Tieflings?

>>53041558
I'm well aware hence why I'm shelving the concept for an E6/E8 games where numbers stay in the realm of sanity.

>>53041569
I used to be fine with them, but /pfg/ can do wonders for making you hate a race. I wouldn't say I dislike them with the same intensity as animal people, but I wouldn't be enthused about playing one either.

Honestly, I'd just play a soul knife dual wielding blades and call those energy claws or something.

Also I could have sworn there WAS a soulknife archetype that gave natural attacks but I can seem to find it. "Wildheart" or something like that.

>>53040630
She started the rumor.

>>53041599
Feral Heart. That's what it was. Feral Heart Soulknife.

>>53041607

What rumor?

>>53041654
I'd rather not go into specifics since I know at least one other member of my party frequents this general, but suffice it to say it was meant as a joke and ended up having campaign altering consequences. If the party found out, they'd probably kill my character (at the very least).

>>53041705
You can't say that and leave us hanging anon.

>>53041705
Too late! We've figured you out, Vilderavn!

>>53041705

There are few rumors that could be start as a joke and end with such widespread ramifications. What, did you accuse a PC of laying with the queen, or frequenting Turkish bathhouses?

>Vult tries to start a discussion on mechanics
>Gets flooded with people who have no idea what he's talking about
>Gets called a creepy rapist
Sasuga Vult

>>53041720
I can and will if it means I won't lose a character I like a lot in what has ended up being the most interesting campaign I've played in.

>>53041801
It was meant to be a harmless rumor about stolen goods that snowballed unexpectedly.

>>53042030

That's a real mean thing to do.

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What are 'Spheres'?

>>53042318

Three dimensional shapes characterized as sets of points all equally distant from their centers.

Also, a series of 3pp supplements intended to alter how you can develop magical or martial characters.

>>53042318
noun
1.
Geometry.
a solid geometric figure generated by the revolution of a semicircle about its diameter; a round body whose surface is at all points equidistant from the center. Equation: x 2 + y 2 + z 2 = r 2 .
the surface of such a figure; a spherical surface.

>>53042318
A three dimensional ball

>>53042460
A ball IS three-dimensional.

>>53042414
>describing spheres in cartesian coodinates
>not spherical ones
Every time

>>53042473
Did your mother teach you this? She must know a lot about balls.

Humans are half dwarf and half elf right? no other halves?

>>53042527
???

>>53042527
You could describe humans as crossbreeds of ANY two races that are considered opposites, because "relative to a human" is the axis they're written to distinguish themselves on. Of course the halfway point looks like a human.

>>53042473
Balls are N dimensional

>>53042582

So humans could conceivably be half angel, half gnoll?

>>53042606
What deity would even allow this?

It sounds like some weird science experiment from Starfinder.

>>53042692

I can see Lamashtu doing it.

If I'm looking to add as many dice as possible to my melee damage rolls (with a weapon, specifically), which class should I be looking at?

I have a lot of dice and I want to roll them all at once.

>>53042777
Sap Master URogue

>>53042768
I'm sure Lamashtu is crossing over to Starfinder now. The perfect deity for mad Scientist everywhere and the internet

>>53042785
That's all nonlethal though, right? Ideally the pile of dice I'm rolling would kill whatever I'm trying to hit.

>>53040630
He is very sad and lonely, but hides it from the rest of the party because he realizes they don't care I like self inserting as characters

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>>53042692
>>53042824

>Horrific science experiment to create a new, stronger breed of interstellar murderbeast

Sounds like a plot element to me, anons.

So I tried looking it up and I think it doesn't exist. There is no DSP monster class for demons besides succubus, or devils besides imp, and none for daemon? I am mainly looking for a daemon.

Is there any reason to do a non-lethal build? The only reason I can think of is roleplay wise your character is adverse to killing.

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>>53042913

Perhaps your character feels corpses simply aren't profitable.

>>53042862
Chug a sugar free energy drink and get out there, broheim.

>>53042863
>Several PMCs the player characters can join are actually Lamashtu fronts
>The PMCs aren't there to kill the new beasts, but to determine how effective they are

Now I want to run a Starfinder dungeon crawl where PCs wake up in a space station and have to survive the beasts, all while the scientists look on without batting an eye as they are eviscerated

>>53042838
You need to specify that shit, boyo. Just like you need to specify what content you're allowed.

For 1pp
>straight nova damage goes to the one trick pony class to end them all: Magus
>Situational damage you can slap on a full attack if you're lucky goes to (Unchained) Rogue
>Honorable Mention goes to the Vital Strike Warpriest. Not for making Vital Strike good, but for pretending it can work
>if you want lots of hits to go with moderate numbers of damage dice, there is a Sneak-Attack archetype that works with Unchained Monk, which can also be used alongside the elemental attacks Ki Power.

>>53042913
Wild West bounty hunter where they get more money for bringing in live prisoners

Metagaming PC aware that the GM likes to pull twists on them, like making some important person a bandit in their free time

Follower of Lamashtu and similar deities who like to have fun with their captures, like shrinking them.

>No Magic but with Path of War

Is this feasible for long campaigns?

>>53043012
>No magic
No.

>>53043012
If you mean will they be able to kill encounters? Yes, initiators will decimate encounters, that's what they do by design. They still won't have OOC ability, just don't have encounters that can only be solves by spells rather than skill checks.

>>53042824

She's being replaced by a pale white man with blue hands, I'm sure, representing the insidious pursuit of knowledge that leaves you soulless.

>>53042949
Yeah, my bad, it totally slipped my mind. I'd like to stick to 1pp if at all possible.

I thought /pfg/ hated magus so I never really gave it much of a thought. I'll have to check it out.

What's the difference between a regular rogue and an unchained rogue? My group has never played with any unchained classes.

Warpriest with vital strike doesn't seem far off from the sort of cheese build I'm looking to put together. I'll definitely look into that too.

Thanks for the help.

>>53043056

Oh, magus is pretty good-most of the complaints against it seem to be that the class feels inflexible in terms of its options, so strong builds tend to be very, very similar to each other.

>>53043056
I can't speak for the rest of the thread, but I love the Magus dearly, which is why I'm so critical of everything about it. The Magus as-is, with the way the rules are right now, is a one-build-only class (two if you count Eldritch Archer) with a piss-poor feature progression past about 3rd level, and a spell list that looks like they had their intern give up a 1/3rd of the way through filling it out.

>Difference between regular rogue and unchained rogue
One is an NPC class, the other is a weak PC class. You should NEVER use core rogue unless you hate yourself. Also Unchained Monk is worth noting, because while it's still MAD as fuck it can at least be a functional class in the right circumstances.

>>53043049
Against what encounters do you need spells?

>>53043215
"Oh drat, the evil LG wizard just dove into a gate and closed it behind him. How on earth are we going to follow him to a plane that he went to"

>>53043182
Is magus something you'd eventually multiclass away from or is it the sort of class you're supposed to stick it out with?

>>53043256
Magus does not like you to multiclass, much like every other spellcaster in 1pp. If you're playing with Spheres of Power, Magus becomes "2 level dip: the class", which only serves to make me want to scream my lungs out.

What are some goofy things I can do with a complete immunity to electricity?

>>53043302
>which only serves to make me want to scream my lungs out.
Why? Not like there's anything worthwhile there.

>>53043334
Attach an alchemical battery to your testicles.

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>>53043334

Get broader use out of EWP?

>>53043338
That is exactly the problem, anon. I want the class to actually be worth sticking with instead of being another notch on a multiclass Frankenstein. How that is so hard for people to get baffles me.

>>53043302
The problem is that spell combat isn't enough to build an entire class around,and the rest of the magus is 'ignore the limitations of vancian casting while getting concentration bonuses'. The spheres people tried (and failed) to make it into a feat for that reason.

>>53043388
Because we're not scared of the big bad multiclass boogieman like you are.

Is Starfinder any good?

>>53043215
Anything involving plane hopping.

But most are situations where it's simply impractical to solve without spells. A locked room murder can be much easier to solve with a spell caster in your group, but possible without.

>>53043388
There was an attempt to do a better job of the sphere magus a while back.

>>53043423
I assume that if you're running a game with no/low magic you won't be fighting people that are hopping dimensions.

>>53043416

Yes, if only because it offers rules we're familiar with for a genre we've all wanted to play in using recognizable rules.

The plot however seems hopelessly retarded, which isn't a problem because sci-fi settings are arguably easier to make than Fantasy.

>>53043415
Not liking something is not the equivalent of being scared of it, smartass.

>>53043416

Can't say for sure, but from what we've learned, it's shaping up to be pretty solid.

>>53043416
Mechanics and classes seem good.

Setting and NPCs will remain Paizo tier and we will have to write our own /pfg/ setting.

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Speaking of Starfinder, I'm working up a campaign for it built around a world that grows a very valuable type of fluorescent and versatile textile, harvested by uniformly pale, white slaves lorded over by swarthy landowning families.

The conflict comes when an energetic, expansionist empire begins eying up the system in question, eager to subsume it into their hegemonic fold.

>>53043489
Oh, yeah, it'll be just like the last unified setting attempt.
>Everyone and everything is fetish-based
>Furry or borderline-furry races everywhere
>Memes drive worldbuilding
>Mary sue asshole NPCs shape the world's history

Is there a trait that lets me use STR for intimidate instead of CHA?

>>53043569

Trait? No. The feat however is called Intimidating Prowess, and it adds your Strength as a modifier alongside Charisma.

>>53043533
Well DUH!

We don't want to alienate the Forgotten Realms fans

>>53043569
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/intimidating-prowess-combat-final/

>>53043569
Nope, just the Intimidating Prowess Feat which adds it in addition to charisma.

>>53043594
>>53043599
>>53043604
>feat

Yuck. I don't have room for that. Thanks anyway.

>>53043595

Fucking Harpers.

>>53041550
Don't sweat the skill bonuses too much. Take 10 is generally enough to hit the DCs as long as you have class skill and maxed ranks in spellcraft, unless you're missing multiple requirements or crafting something way above your level

>>53043618
Are the Harpers Anarcho-HYDRA?

>>53043654
Take the Pathfinders.
Subtract the "Super Adventure Club" and "It Belongs In A Museum!" aspects.
Add in hippie shit and a whole mess of pretentious "We know what's best for you" fuckery.
Give theme meme!Iomedae's sense of morals.

Now you have a good idea of the Harpers.

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>Wrecking Wrath
>Once per day, after successful hitting a foe with a melee weapon, you can add your Strength modifier to the damage roll a second time (your Strength modifier is not doubled if you are using a two-handed weapon). Doing so has a 25% chance of giving your weapon the broken condition.

Is this trait any good? Are there any ways to reliably go about making a weapon unbreakable?

>>53043654

Basically, they're a secret organization dedicated to maintaining peace and balance by sabotaging anything that threatens to change the status quo, politically or technologically.

Occasionally, this comes off as helpful. Most of the time, it comes off as invasive and self-righteous.

Playing gunslinger 1/ Inquisitor X, anyone have suggestions for domains/inquisitions? Most of them seem to be tooled around melee or spellcasting, while I've built a ranged-oriented versatile damage dealer.
Using guns everywhere rules for dex-to-damage at gunslinger 1 with musket master archetype for the rapid reload bonus feat (some awful homebrew makes 1h and 2h guns reload both as a standard action so the level 3 feature isn't worth getting).
Mostly trying to preserve versatility as my character is a bit of a petulant shitkid who likes to rush ahead (and is due any time now for a solid beatdown to curb that).
I'd been considering the Protean subdomain but it looks like an absolute nightmare of bogging down combat and my wisdom is a touch weak for it (16), so I'm really open to any suggestions.

>>53043466
>The plot however seems hopelessly retarded, which isn't a problem because sci-fi settings are arguably easier to make than Fantasy.

I do not agree. Developing entire planets and systems is more difficult.

>>53043701
>avoiding making a weapon broken
No anon, roll with it.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/disposable-weapon/
Get some Liquid Blades, Improved Critical, and go to town.

>>53043811
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/splintering-weapon/

There's also this!

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>>53043701
No, the trait is not any good.
Yes, you can gain an unbreakable weapon via a single level in the Battle Host Occultist.

>finished finals
>finished overlewd app
>not interested in DAA
>no games
What do I do?

>>53043811
This seems like it would get very expensive very quickly.

>>53043883
Wouldn't it be pretty good with an unbreakable weapon?

>>53043921

Watch a movie, go for a walk, play video-games or read a book.

>>53043921
See how high one can get charisma with 15pb and unlimited resources.

>>53043934
>Wouldn't it be pretty good with an unbreakable weapon?
+4 damage once per day is pretty negligible.

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>tfw you want to play strength-based melee character with a big weapon but you're tired of power attack and it's required for every build

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Blingmaker tonight!

>>53044011
Also Romance of the Righteous Kingdoms tonight!

>>53044009

What's wrong with Power Attack?

>>53044011
Nobody cares

>>53044009
Yes anon that is why we use feat tax rules

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>Guy says he's making a "high-powered Pathfinder campaign"
>Inquire what this means
>It starts at level 1, but intends to run until you hit level 20

... How is this "high-powered" when almost every campaign out there does this already?

>>53044035
>>53044011
Kill yourselves

>>53044009
>tfw you've pointed out to your GM that power attack is a blatant feat tax, that craft and knowledge (not monster) skills are blatant underperformers compared to social and combat skills, and that he's running 99% melee enemies so the front line is eating dirt and the rear line basically never takes damage
>tfw he's vetoed free power-attack, vetoed background skills, and still runs giant melee moshpit encounters

>>53044038
I just think it's boring. There are so many interesting feats in the game and having my character locked into the same shit as every other strength-based melee character makes me not want to play one.

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>>53044009
>mfw i've never taken power attack except for pre-requisites
>including on str-based builds

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>>53044011

Reminds me of my GW2 experiences.

>>53044100
So you're retarded.

>>53041607
>>53041705
>>53042058
We know it's you, Travis. I've already texted Joel about your betrayal.

>>53044122
OH SHIT

>>53044100
I mean if you enjoy being shit, sure.

>>53044011
I hope everyone has Fun!

>>53044071
>>53044043
t. alex

>>53044189
Who?

>>53040630
He's secretly plotting to single-handedly overthrow an entire kingdom, not because he thirsts for power, but because he is bored and can't really think of anything better to do with his abundance of time.

>>53043952
Theoretical Charisma Limit, "Unlimited Resources":
>18 (base)
>4 (aasimar with alternate racial trait)
>3 (aging)
>5 (levels)
>5 (wishes)
>6 (belt)
>8 (grand cognatogen)
>4 (righteous aura)
>6 (nocticula simulacrum)
>8 (snowsong w/ moment of greatness)

Total: 67 charisma

While it might be inevitable that we put our own setting out for Starfinder,

I want to read about YOUR campaign setting!

Are you going to have a custom starting point?

Are there any groups you plan on including from other media?

What about enemies? Do you have any ideas for those?

>>53044264
>What about enemies? Do you have any ideas for those?

Feuding Megacorporations built around the classic enemy types of "mercenaries, sleek corporate, cannon fodder mall-cops, and robots."

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>>53044318
What are they fighting over?

New planet?

Recently discovered, half finished colony ship that's the ticket out of Paizo planet?

Are the deities who didn't make the cut running them and trying to get back into the game?

Assuming you have the available feats necessary to make it happen, would you ever /not/ want a familiar on a class that doesn't normally get one?

Are there any guides or resources for optimizing a familiar?

What are some cool things you can do with a familiar?

So I promised /pfg/ some Curse of the Lazy Throne greentext yesterday, and I'm here to deliver. I last left off after session 3, so I'll recap the last two sessions.

Our party is:
>Ein: Inquisitor (Monster Tactician/Urban Infiltrator). Pharasma a best.
>Ophelia: Bloodrager (Draconic Bloodline) and self-styled protector of the innocent.
>Beatrice: Medium (Empath), fortune-teller, and the group's morality pet.
>Sofia: Soulknife (Psychic Armory), and a stunningly suave socialite.
>And introducing Alinza, an NPC and Ophelia's hypercompetent orphan friend with all the dice luck.

>At the end of Session 3, the party was christened special agents of the Korvosan Guard.
>The mission: to arrest Verik Vancaskerkin, a deserter who brought some men with him to a hideout in Old Korvosa, and find out why he left the Guard.
>The target: a butcher shop called "All the World's Meat".
>The plan: none at the moment.
>Before they move, though, Ein and Ophelia go off to gather some information on Vancaskerkin and his men, who call themselves the Cow Hammer Boys.
>Sofia and Beatrice procure some supplies from the quartermaster, namely a couple CLW potions
>The latter two regroup back at Zellara's. Alinza has already cleaned up most of the house and converted it to a living space.
>On the way back from their recon, it begins to rain imps and pseudodragons on Ein and Ophelia.
>Once everyone's gathered, we share information - namely that the Cow Hammer Boys are giving away free meat every morning.
>This is red flag #1, since people in the city have been rationing food.
>The Cow Hammer Boys are also hiring themselves out as mercenaries, as long as you ask for the "Night's Special Cuts".
>This is red flag #2.
>The possibility of Soylent Meat being people is discussed.
>Meanwhile, Alinza is happy to find out that the party is working with the Guard again
>She begins to psychoanalyze everyone and is apparently really spot-on
>Hypercompetent.
>Banter is traded, and plans are made.

>>53044418
>, would you ever /not/ want a familiar on a class that doesn't normally get one?
You don't like the idea of having a familiar? You don't need a bonus to skills? You don't want an extra mouth to feed? It's not thematically appropriate? Lots of reasons.

>>53044453

>Sofia and Alinza will stop by All the World's Meat and grab a sample, getting a good look at the building in the process.
>Fortunately, Beatrice lives in Old Korvosa, and so the party decides to pack up and stay at Beatrice's for the night.
>On the way, though, the party notices that a small group of imps have been stalking them.
>Initiative is rolled, and since we noticed the imps we get a surprise round.
>Ein and Ophelia - with the help of some Celestial Eagles - take point, readying themselves to smash some imp face
>Sofia does her soulknife thing, throwing psychic warhammers at people.
>Beatrice protects Alinza with her trusty scarf, soulknife, and mind powers
>We also get some help from a pair of pseudodragons who noticed the fight
>While they're annoying, these imps are no match for the party, and we fight them off without much fuss.

>Session 5 begins at Beatrice's - a small, cozy, rustic 1st-floor apartment in Old Korvosa.
>The party goes over the plan one more time, with one small addition.
>Ein gets to work setting up a portable alchemist's lab (never leave home without one!) and tries to teach everyone the basics.
>There's some difficulty (low rolls errywhere) but with the party's help, he manages to craft a few thunderstones.
>The party goes to sleep, and Beatrice's house is so comfy that we get a +2 to any roll the next day
>The next day, Sofia and Alinza, the former dressed in rags thanks to an un-errata'd Sleeves of Many Garments, go off to fetch some meat.
>The Cow Hammer Boys basically give them some ham and rush them out the door, barely giving the pair time to scout the area.
>As they leave, though, they get a glimpse of the pens... and there aren't nearly enough animals here to help feed an entire city.
>Ein, meanwhile, recruits the rest of the party to get crafting.
>Many more thunderstones are made.
>Sofia and Alinza regroup at Beatrice's. Thanks to the party's discerning eyes (read: Heal check), they find out that the ham...

>>53044060
Feat tax rules? Where can I find these rules? Are they an alternative rule set from paizo or a homebrew thing that is "universaly" accepted?

>>53044479

>Is actually ham. Shitty, uncured ham, but it's pig.
>The party starts to think up ways to sneak into the building, when Ein realizes something.
>The floor is made of stone. Earth Elementals can glide right through that shit.
>Night falls and the party gets to work.
>Unfortunately, there's a bell that rings every time the front door is opened...
>But Sofia slices right through that shit.
>The elemental unlocks the door from the inside, everyone goes into stealth mode (yes, even Ophelia)
>There are a couple men playing cards upstairs, but everyone manages to be quiet enough that they aren't tipped off (yes, even Ophelia)
>Beatrice gets her hypercompetent moment here, unlocking a side door off the main hallway.
>And inside... is a room full of day-old meat hanging from hooks all across the room.
>Some of this meat is people.
>Sofia opens the door at the end of the hallway and immediately NOPEs back when she realizes that's where the meat is... processed, let's say.
>It's a pretty greusome sight, but Ein and Beatrice soldier on and begin to investigate...
>When they hear the sound of someone unlocking the outside door!
>Turns out it's four of the Cow Hammer Boys... and they're dragging an unconscious elf with them.
>This can't stand, and so it's initiative time.
>Last Surprise.mp3 (thanks Pinko)
>Beatrice manages to land a Mind Thrust, and Ein summons another Earth Elemental which proceeds to stagger one of the Boys in one hit.
>This Elemental manages to be a fucking all-star btw, only gets hit once
>The commotion downstairs, however, alerts Vancaskerkin and his three guards upstairs...
>Fortunately, Sofia and Ophelia are there to intercept them.
>It also seems like the Boys downstairs are keeping the fact that Soylent Meat is people a bit of a secret from Vancaskerkin.
>Sofia and Ophelia lay into Vancaskerkin's men, the former weakening them and the latter KOing them with a sap.
>Well, one of them might have died, but acceptable casualties, right?

>>53044489
>Downstairs, Beatrice is keeping one of the Boys busy while Ein and his Elemental engage the other three.
>They're trying to convince the party to let them go, but they make two really big mistakes.
>1. Beatrice's spirit literally will not let her ignore this crime, and
>2. Never, ever, bring up Ein's dead fiance.
>Vancaskerkin is far more reasonable, though, and after his guards are eliminated he goes along with Ophelia and Sofia.
>Okay, so maybe Ophelia had to rage and 'convince' him to do so.
>The guard really didn't care about our methods anyway, right?
>The Cow Hammer Boys notice that they aren't really getting anywhere and they're slowly losing the fight, so the ones that aren't KO'd withdraw
>One of them runs into Sofia and Vancaskerkin, and surrenders.
>The other is dragged back into the building by a raging Ophelia.

Unfortunately, at this point it was getting pretty late so we wrapped up quickly - the elf girl woke up screaming bloody murder and Vancaskerkin surrendered
after realizing the truth about Soylent Meat. We're probably going to begin the next session by interrogating Vancaskerkin.

The game is moving at a slowish pace but the character interaction is pretty good. It's a slow burn but we're all having a lot of fun with it.

>>53044453
>So I promised /pfg/ some Curse of the Lazy Throne greentext yesterday

I wish you hadn't.

>>53044508

Glad to hear you're enjoying yourselves. Sounds like quite the couple of sessions.

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>>53044378
>What are they fighting over?

A system previously inaccessible due to being the celestial lair of an Ether Drake, now open for exploitation after said Drake's death at the hands of a Dragonslayer. What began as a simple extraction operation has turned into a four-way brawl as three corporations and the natives of the lush garden world that served as both part of the Drake's hoard and source of "exotic" food battle for independence, wealth and power.

The party are either Corporates, Natives or Freelancers working with the Dragonslayer to either guide the conflict into gentler waters or simply make as much cash as possible before bailing. The primary hoard of the Ether Drake is basically Treasure Planet.

>>53044456
But the benefits outweigh all of that.

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What are you fighting for, /pfg/?

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>>53044657
Gold, mostly.

>>53044657
I don't know...maybe I fight aimlessly to find something to fight for. :(

>>53044647
They really don't. Would you take a feat that was "your character gets +10 to iniative, attack, and damage. They also get Wish free as a 1/Day SLA" but the fluff is they have to have a large vibrating spiked dildo up their ass 24/7?

>>53044657

His blackblade sends a localized jolt of electricity to the part of his brain that gives orgasms every time he kills something.

>>53044657
To live as I please, and die a pointless death.

>>53044657
Shits, giggles, and to demonstrate the eternal glory of Nirgali, god of war.
Being an immortal war-priest is pretty sweet.

>>53044657
It's only human to want to help others, right?

>>53044689
Plat pls.

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>>53044680

W-Well, are the spikes blunted?

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>>53044657

>playing the FFD20 with pf rules
>Picked a hybrid janky character that seemed fun and unique but doesn't offer anything in our rather combat heavy campaign
>Character is relegated to a face/skill monkey of sorts without detect traps
>Fear that the other two martials and the two casters that round out the group will grow weary and dump me
>Literally zero info or feedback on my class

Worry

>>53044680
Absolutely I'd take that feat.

Play an oracle, flavor the dildo as their curse. Problem solved.

>>53044702
No.

>>53040630
She's actually a boy.

>>53044714
No re-fluffing. It has to be a dildo up your ass. It has to be spiked. And it must be at least 12 inches and as thick as a coke can.

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>>53044751

Thank god I live in an age where we determine the thickness of dicks by how many coke cans they are.

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>>53044751
That's fine.

If you're trying to use that as an argument against familiars you're doing a bad job.

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>>53044751

Anon, I hate to be the one to tell you this...

>>53044767
My argument for "why don't people take familiars if they can is" some people really don't like familiars.

>>53044800
Why wouldn't you?

You get an assload of great shit for ~2 feats. On a caster that doesn't get one naturally, that seems like it would be appealing to anyone looking to get the most out of their character. You probably weren't going to spend those feats on anything better anyway.

>>53044841
>You probably weren't going to spend those feats on anything better anyway.

I've spent my spare feats on Armor Mastery before.

>>53044841
Some people don't want to carry around a stupid fucking talking animal.
>You probably weren't going to spend those feats on anything better anyway.
I can think of a ton of feats I'd rather take on my caster than the ones I need to get a familiar.

>>53044657
A feeling that he's finally equalized the scales enough that he's allowed to commit suicide. Basically fighting for a reason to die.

>>53044914

That's an incredibly Ulfen thing to say.

>>53044859
>a stupid fucking talking animal.
Even if that animal is really cute and absolutely loves you and only wants to make you happy?

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>>53044859
>not taking a weasel familiar to use as a fleshlight when you get stressed out

>>53044933
Yes

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>>53044479
>>53044489
>>53044508

During my own group's short-lived run through Curse of the Crimson Throne, we gathered information to learn that the Cow Hammer Boys were also handling thuggish assassinations. We sent them off on a wild goose chase to kill the already-dead Gaedren Lamm in his fishery.

When the Cow Hammer Boys left, we unlocked some doors, snuck up, confronted Verik Vancaskerkin, and then somehow managed to peacefully entreat him into coming along. We also successfully identified the silver dagger as a raktavarna rakshasa, eliminated it, and resolved to investigate why such an object was in Verik's possession.

Even by the GM's admission, our group had managed a completely flawless run of the mission, and had found it most amusing that we sent off people to kill Gaedren Lamm.

>>53044751
Ok...

I use my 1/day Wish on the first day to wish that the vibrating spiked dildo doesn't cause me any pain or discomfort.

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>>53044939

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>>53044859

>mfw there are people that not only want stupid talking animal familiars, they want to PLAY the stupid talking animal

>>53044953
Such a task is beyond the power of even wish. Even divine intervention can not save you from the booty pain, such is the price of such power.

>>53044841
The 2 feat route requires 13 Cha and it's your character level -2 for the familiar.

The one that gives full benefits without needing 13 Cha is a 3 feat route. Most people can't spare 3 feats.

Also the benefits of a familiar are as follows:
+4 Init/+2 to a save/+3 to a skill/+1 Nat armor (choose one)
+2 Sense Motive/Perception (+4 at 10 ranks)

If I'm not a caster delivering touch spells does literally nothing for me. Most of its other features are either defense or the ability to talk to me. Speaking with animals of its kind is the only other with a bit of utility.

Honestly? It's not that great. I have better things to spend my feats on.

>>53044964
Yes. There are people with bad taste. Shocking, I know.

>>53044979
>If I'm not a caster delivering touch spells does literally nothing for me
Even if you are. The little shit is probably dying in one fucking blow anyway and you're better off using that spectral hand shit.

>>53044964
>they want to PLAY the stupid talking animal

>implying the majority of /pfg/ doesn't already play as weeb bait kitsune anyway

>>53044982
Speaking from experience, I take it. The good thing is that you're admitting you have bad tastes. That's almost always the first step in solving your problems.