Pathfinder General /pfg/

If your DM doesn't use Background Skills, you need to just knock some of their teeth out, because that shit's pathetic.

Posting again:
Last session my GM introduced 'something' to us:
>the party has traveled like 500 miles up into the mountains north of where most people live
>cold as fuck, snowing
>there are old structures on the mountain tops
>we came looking for treasure
>nothing there at first
>party is attacked by ghosts
>they aren't human ghosts, GM describes them as 'formless congealment of agony'
>press on
>some of our hirelings due to ghosts
>press on into the structures
>get attacked by another incorporeal creature
>GM describes it as 'sapient animalistic screaming'
>start finding treasure, mostly weird art pieces and statues made of precious metals
>most of the art is made of fractals
>have to make will saves while looking at it or get nauseated
>deeper down we find a massive fucking cavern
>the bottom of the cavern is just a huge featureless stone cube
>no seams or anything
>try to pas through it with earth glide, it's layered with other materials
>decide to crack it open
>set the hirelings to digging and set up base came
>dig towards center of the cube
>things attack us while we're doing this and explore a bit more
>most of them are either incorporeal, weird insect things with 16 legs, or ooze things
>find depictions of what our cleric works out is probably religious text in a language we don't know
>depicts a cycle of death and rebirth but with added steps
>GM described it as similar to Bhavacakra, a buddhist thing
>end up cracking open the stone finally
>inside it a stable made for humans
>there is a stone marionette on one side
>it's take itself apart and reconstructing itself in a chair on the other side of the table
>we watch it for a while it does this back and forth
>try to talk with it
>cleric asks "who are you?"
>it starts repeating "who are you?" in a louder and louder voice until our hirelings need to leave due to sonic damage
>suddenly goes silent as it finishes transferring itself

Last session ended there. The fuck am I dealing with?

>>53015647
How good are wizards?

>>53015679
p. good

>>53015679

Pretty good, though there are some weak picks in the spell lists, as well as some laughably strong ones that it helps to be aware of.

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>>53015677
I may have an idea....

>>53015677
An amazing GM

>>53015754
I specialized in necromancy. Necromancy spells seem pretty strong.

>>53015769
What are your opposed schools?

>>53015775
Abjuration and transmutation

>>53015819
Transmutation is a pretty huge school. Most of its spells are too situational to be very good, but you'll be missing out on Disintegrate and a lot of buffing spells.

You're not missing out on too much with Abjuration, barring Dispel Magic.

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>>53015672
How is this for an alternative.

>>53015779
>!! WARNING !!
>!! WARNING !!
>The final deadline for application edits has been moved to Friday morning, to allow me to spend more time going over applications while also fulfilling obligations related to other games. Final roster will be announced on Saturday.

>>53015832
We have a druid and a ranger and a cleric so I don't think we'll be wanting too much for buffs

>>53015856
Oh yeah you're fine then

>>53015647
hey /pfg/ since that starfinder is coming out. What did you guys think about distant worlds? are there any adventures or games running using a bit from that book?

What did you think about the House of The Void?

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>>53015840
Good think I'm already done with my edits

Though I've been second guessing my character choice fucking kill me

>>53015677
Your DM has read a certain story.
He is using a certain monster.
You're fucked if you don't run. But it's also as fast as a train so you're fucked anyway. Use the hirelings as decoys and bolt man.

>>53015862
I feel bad for the DM. Two animal companions, a familiar, a bunch of undead whenever I can get away with it, plus I plan on taking leadership

>>53015898
Im curious to what it is. Not the poster, someone else. Can you say it in a spoiler

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What are good names for Ifrits?

>>53015904
Have you considered not taking Leadership?

Alternatively, if your DM has already okayed Leadership, have you considered the Instructor Wizard archetype? It's basically an upgrade to just taking the feat

What's the best improved familiar?

>>53015913
Original poster you're on your honor to stay away from the story until you're done withe the area.
At the Mountains of Madness is a good portion of it with sprinklings of other Lovecraft, not sure what the marionette is from.

>>53015904
You should see if he lets you take leadership first.

But otherwise don't feel bad. A lot of the time DMs love it when the PCs are tough because then they don't have to pull punches. Try to get a dragon familiar, make halfdragon babies, then build a tower in a demiplane and a dungeon in the mortal plane so you can rule. Become a lich and put your phylactery in the tower, and when your dragon gets big make her a dracolich. Have your cleric become pontiff of a new religion with you as god of death anon. Don't spoil the chance.

>>53015930
Flameo Hotman

>>53015933
I'm gonna be taking leadership for more than just one reason. Eventually I want to be a Nosferatu (my character was actually originally taught necromancy by one and I'm currently looking for him). But if my party doesn't just kill me I'll need a small cult to handle transport of my coffin and maintaining my undead farm. Also need them to feed.

>>53015930
Heats Flamesman.

>>53015930
Spicy Boy

>>53015930
just pick a human name. they're just weird humans.

>>53015950
Not much different than what I plan on doing lol. And she okayed leadership already, after I told her I was gonna play an evil character I had to come up with a believable back story, motivation and personality, as well as goals and reasons to adventure with others
Making sure I'm not just chaotic stupid basically.

>>53015987
What were you planning to do curiously. Its tough to find people playing wizards these days with any sort of plan.

>>53015973
Anon, no one's going to remember that name.

>>53015930
John.

>>53015999
I want to become a Nosferatu and build a small cult around myself. Eventually I want to manufacture large mounts of death dream or whatever that poisons called and have my cult distribute it in small villages and Hamlet's then cast curses earth and basically create blighted plaguelands and build an undead army, eventually bringing about the destruction of society.

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>>53016026
I like your style

>>53016027
HOW COULD I BE SO EASILY DEFEATEEEEED?!

>>53016026
Consider teaming up with the cleric and convince him to become a lich. Not a lot of people make cleric necromancer liches, but they play the role of high undead pontiff very well. I don't know how you could get the druid to come with you on that, unless the druid is a blightdruid who likes mushrooms or something like that.

>>53016045
That's assuming my party doesn't just kill me after a while. I plan on being evil, just in a plotting methodical way and becoming a fucking Nosferatu might be too much for them

>>53016067
has a good point. Clerics are much better at raw-necromancy compared to wizards, and have the ability to take that one archetype that gives him a permanent skeletal champion that gains levels and does not cost control HD

>>53016067
The cleric is true neutral and has the travel domain I think. Don't know much about the druid yet. What really scares me at low level is the chaotic good barbarian

>>53015892
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/76041/mighty-quest-for-epic-loot-in-the-lair-of-the-kobold-queen

the only space one I am aware of is this. Already applied so it seems alright to me.

As for the house of the void, who knows. They are so mysterious, I can only imagine them as tall people dressed in solid black robes with a void within the cowl so you can't even see them.

>>53016088
Unfortunately the characters are already made. We are each getting a solo level 1 adventure that's going to leave us all heading towards the same place so we meet up at level two. I know the druid has something to do with bones being a big theme

>>53016098
Don't worry too much about the barbarian. If they end up playing like a barbarian they will probably be straying closer to chaotic neutral side of the alignment, and maybe with convincing you can get help you with their big buff hands

>>53015930
Spice Meatboll

>>53016027
I had a paladin named Lawful Goodman once.

>>53016165
I had a Necromancer named Shadow Darkman. I think we'd've been good rivals.

>>53015677
>find giant cube at the bottom of a cavern
>"well shit let's crack it open"
What the fuck did you expect to happen?

>>53016322
I had a friend play a fat cleric named Big McLarge Huge. He was just at the weight limit for Floating Disk.

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Some of you may have seen 7th- or 8th-level Spheres of Might builds that abuse the Alchemy sphere to wholly obliterate large radii of absurdly high-CR enemies. I would like to revisit such builds at a much lower level to help prove a point: Cluster Toss and Snap Toss are both completely broken talents, because Alchemy damage already seems to be balanced around "1 formula throw = 1 attack action," so Cluster Toss and Snap Toss are effectively free attack actions for a trivial cost.

Cluster Toss and Snap Toss might be balanced if they were limited to regular alchemical items, but as they currently stand, they blow apart encounters even at low levels.

To that end, here is a 2nd-level Alchemy bomber. It brings out a turn one nova (surviving the first turn by way of high AC, Cold Iron Call, and Durable), and then lazes off.

Level: 2nd
Race: Human (focused study, heart of the fields)
Class: Blacksmith 1/alchemist (mortal chemist, tinkerer with valet familiar) 1
Ability Scores (20 point buy): Strength 8, Dexterity 12, Constitution 14, Intelligence 18+2, Wisdom 12, Charisma 7
Traits: Alchemical Adept (Magic), Illuminator (Religion), Student of Philosophy (Social)

Feats:
• Focused Study: Skill Focus (Craft [alchemy])
• 1st-level: Magnum Opus (Craft [alchemy])

Martial Tradition: Warden:
• Equipment sphere (no dedication): Armor Training, Shield Training
• Guardian sphere (Indifferent Defender drawback, 1 free): Cold Iron Call
• Shield sphere (Inoffensive Blocker drawback, 1 free): Deflecting Shield

Other Talents: 4 = 2 alchemical expertise + 1 blacksmith + 1 equipment specialist
• Alchemy (Formula package, Poison package, Natural Skill drawback, 3 free): Improved Acid Flasks, King's Sleep, Swift Toss
• Equipment (1 free): Distance Shot
• Guardian sphere (already have this): Durable

Key Equipment (1,000 gp):
• 550 gp: Masterwork full plate, self-crafted
• 257 gp: Darkwood heavy shield
• 75 gp: Portable alchemist's lab
• 50 gp: Masterwork backpack

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>>53016436

Craft (alchemy):
2 ranks
+5 Intelligence modifier
+3 class skill
+1 racial from heart of the fields
+2 trait from Alchemical Adept
+3 Skill Focus
+1 competence from alchemist
+1 circumstance from portable alchemist's lab
+2 initiative valet familiar's Cooperative Crafting
Total: +20, take 15 with Magnum Opus for 35, enough for two upgrades on Improved Acid Flasks

Initiative:
1 Dexterity modifier
+4 initiative familiar
Total: +5

Range increment:
10 splash weapon
+15 Distance Shot
Total: 25 feet

Attack bonus with splash weapon out to first range increment (5 to 25 feet):
1 BAB
+1 Dexterity modifier
+1 Throw Anything
Total: +3, needs to hit only an AC 5 grid intersection

Damage for Improved Acid Flasks:
2d6 base with Craft (alchemy) ranks
+1d6 Alchemy dedication (see Additional Rules for timing on expending martial focus)
+5 Intelligence modifier from alchemist
+2 sharpen weapons
Total: 3d6+7 (average 17.5), twice over

Area:
• Full damage to all targets within 10 feet of the point of contact (assuming both hit, average 35 damage)
• Half damage to all targets within 20 feet of the point of contact (assuming both hit, average 17.5 damage)
• 1 point of damage to all creatures within 30 feet
Targets who take at least 2 points of acid damage from the initial attack take half the total damage again on the following round.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E2-s8weiulPoBQjdI05LBzOUToyoZIdSsLKxHAvf8F8/edit#gid=3
• Average CR 3 Hit Points: 30.3
• Average CR 4 Hit Points: 39.2
• Average CR 5 Hit Points: 53.4

As you can see, this 2nd-level character stands a very high chance of wiping out a cluster of CR 3s or CR 4s in a single round, or possibly a cluster of CR 4s or CR 5s given an extra round of lingering damage.

>>53016442
Inner Beauty trait will give you +4 on one craft check a day, if that's enough to up anything.

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>>53016477

The character wants to be able to recraft their Improved Acid Flasks after every encounter (this takes only 3.75 minutes per flask with the Equipment sphere dedication), not just once per day.

The higher-level versions of this build blow apart even higher-CR enemies in even larger radii, and have the longevity to last two or three rounds hurling Improved Acid Flasks against AC 5.

>>53016436
>>53016442
2hu, I want to optimally make love to you

>>53015832
Transmutation also has all the spells that let you fly, which is kind of a big deal.

Abjuration has LOTS of good spells as well, like protection from evil.

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>>53016542
Abjuration is where they put all the protective spells, which is extremely important.

Transmutation is just where they dumped all the shit they couldn't figure out a better place for, which means the Transmutation spell list is about x2.5 the size of most other spell lists, and that means fucking oodles of options. It's one of the best specialization options for a reason.

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>>53015883
>I've already encountered multiple traps with DCs 30+, big damage or instant kill effects

Big damage instant kill traps are what we call 2hu characters.

I haven't played Pathfinder in quite a while, but I've been invited for a campaign starting this weekend. I really wanted to play a tanky character, but I don't know what class to choose. Before, I would have just chosen synthesist summoner, but as I understand it that's been banned/nerfed since last I played.

So I ask, what's the best class for tanking? I assume that its paladin, but I wanna make sure.

>>53016617
The Stonelord archetype that Paladins can take is one of the more fun tanking builds, in my opinion.

If 3rd party is allowed everyone is going to tell you to take Warder, but my group doesn't allow Path of War.

>>53016617
Warder

>>53016617
Make a cute Warder!

Huh

Another ROaB app

Is it another roll20 normie?

>>53016504
Is there a risk of damaging allies with this build? Would it be possible to TPK with a bad roll?

>>53016650
>>53016652
>>53016666
I'll have to ask the DM if path of war is allowed. He'll probably say yes tho; the DM's a cool guy.

Any Warder advice for me? Well, other than what I can find in a handbook.

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>>53016673
Post it for those of us on our phones.

>>53016714
That show was so fucking fun. I really wish Hilda had lasted longer though. She was fucking primo.

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>>53016603
I get it!

>>53016730
I think I remember that there was a manga version where she lived. Or at least where it was confirmed she and Gene had screwed.

>>53016714
Name/ Callsign: Abagale "Fallen Angel" Ariel, pilot of "Archangel'
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Race/Gender: Spaceborn Female
Class: Eldritch Archer (magus) VMC: Ranger
Party role
Foot: Rifle user, magic damage, scout
Mech: Long range sniper, magic damage, air support, scout
Sheets: wip
Abagale
'Archangel'
Backstory
wip
Athos pilot, was trained in long range weaponry, as well as adding "old world" magic into the mix to fit her mecha's design. She was born and raised in the Athos's spacecraft. She was chosen as one of the five to leave the spacecraft after another member was confirmed dead on Rezia.
(can easily swap out Athos with a private military group if you wish to keep the mercenary families as a very special case)
Personality: Abagale is a little unhinged, some would say. She is a happy go-lucky type of girl who would happily party the night away with a complete stranger. However, offer her a challenge, and if it is something she could do, she might just accept it. Very much so if you ask for a duel. Just don't expect anything close range with her. When she is in a job, or in a duel, she expects to win, and she will make sure she does if she needs to.
Signature system: Astral Rifle: 'Archangel' is equipped with a recoilless rifle (or the like), but has been heavily modified. The rifle's technology is mixed in with a bit of magic, a single crystal helping power the rifle. The rifle's range is no laughing matter, just like a sniper rifle in the hands of a marksman, the Astral Rifle's range exceeds that of most, if not all, other mech-based rifles. Not only that, but the pilot must wear a special 'glove' inside the cockpit, allowing them to channel magic straight into the rifle, mixing it's power with the bullets it fires. (Sniper class recoilless rifle with magus spellstrike capabilities.)

>>53016776
Man, they obviously fucked in the show. She took her prize then and there.

Fuck, that's some sexy shit, too. Badass, sexy older woman just fucking picking up some handsome younger dude? That's primo storytelling.

Why aren't more /pfg/ games like THAT, damn?

>>53016798
Everyone wants to be the one picked up, nobody wants to be the picker.

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So, we are playing pre-made character. The GM has decided to distribute our characters across the land Baldur's Gate style. You have to find them, if you want to play them. What are the best methods to find a specific person/character with more/less information?

>>53016811
Are you kidding? Being a perfect, confident badass space lady that can effortlessly claim the bodies of any hunks she wants? That's the dream. Sexual freedom and no submitting agency or anything to anyone else? It's like the perfect female life.

>>53016798
Because there's no one for Shizuka to fuck like that in HV, even the butler is a dad.

>>53016798
They did confirm that in the last episode, yes.
But I feel it's mostly that GMs are either uncomfortable with sex being a thing (especially in meatspace games), want to do the fucking rather than being fucked, or are more interested in/better at making submissive waifu-bait than attractive and aggressive women.

That last part is going to be even more rare on /pfg/ considering this place's obsession with cuckolding, and anybody who has designs on an NPC is going to scream about getting NTR'd if someone else is more immediately receptive to her advances than them.

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What stats would you recommend for a Bard?

>>53016835
Louisiana is a good starter.

>>53016835
Depends on the build goal, archetype, ect ect

generally if melee str cha dex con and an archetype to support, for ranged its dex str cha con cause bardchers are really strong, and for caster centric bards its like cha dex str con

>>53016828
You do it, then.

A lot of girls, myself included, enjoy being pursued, rather than pursuing. Confident and badass is nice and all, but I prefer feeling treasured.

>>53016831
Are there any opportunities for time skips in HV so you can start creeping on the son?

>>53016847
Not really

And i'm pretty sure the Son is secretly a devil.

>>53016833
You saying you need someone to app as a Hilda-esque superwoman? Because point me to the game and I'll do it in a heartbeat.

>>53016843
I prefer Mississippi, myself.

>>53016843
>>53016870
I CHECKED THREE TIMES AND HE DIDN'T EVEN MISSPELL IT!

>>53016846
Seriously? Fuck, I'd pursue some cute girls, too. Hell, /pfg/ would probably like that better, a tough action woman seducing some demure honeys.

>>53016876
Why would I? It's easy to spell, Holmes.

>>53016861
I'd say Overlewd, but the window for new applications to that just closed.

Maybe Raining Oil and Blood? That could work for a badass spacefarer.

>>53016876
I may have misread, sorry, if it's like that then 13.6 electron Volts should be pretty solid as long as he's Hydrogen.

>>53016905
I hadn't heard about this one yet. That sounds pretty badass. I could definitely envision a grizzled, mecha lady fucking people up and seducing impressionable hunks.

Let's have a look at this chargen.

>>53016939
Keep in rule current mecha rules are literally being rewritten

>>53016968
Oh, well damn. Hmm, I'll put it on hold mechanically and write up the fluff parts for a week or two, and then come back, then.

>>53016980
Its mostly being re-written to make ranged less bad and increase options

>>53016996
That's good, though, right? Fuck, I'm kinda excited. Haven't had any good sci-fi fun since I played Rogue Trader and ate a bunch of people.

>>53017007
Yes, its very good

I'm doing my best to help Plat get these rules to kick ass

>>53017018
Plat's a swell guy. I always like the shit he posts in the discord.

What happened to Cashmere? I heard she got hit with an ovipositor on top of everything else.

>>53017028
Mind linking that game? Mechs have always been interesting to me.

What is your character's morning routine? How long do you figure it takes them to prepare for the day, all total?

Is Luring Cavalier the only way to apply a Cavalier's Challenge to ranged attacks?

>>53017337
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75981/raining-oil-and-blood

>>53015410
Last time in /PFG/, our group just reached 8th level for the first time, and the game already feels like it's steadily approaching rocket tag.

On top of this, our DM pretty much drops encounters on our heads now; even trying to be careful, we're very lucky if we see hostiles ahead of time to make one round's worth of preparations, and most encounters just pop up or are ambushes.

I was thinking of running a Pathfinder game before, but looking at the escalation in practice, I'm wondering how others play and run the game. I've heard E6 is a style that resolves some of those issues.

>>53017372
What kind of apps has it had so far?

>>53017353
>Morning prayers
>Feed and groom his horse
>Rushed breakfast
>Sharpen his sword
>Put on armor
>Practice swordsmanship
>Practice swaggering, boasting, evil laughter
Altogether probably about an hour, hour and a half at the outside.

R8 my build /pfg/
Swashbuckler (inspired blade) 1 / Bard (archaeologist) 6
Aasimar (azata) for the favored class bonus, fate's favored trait, master performer feat.
Bottom line : +5 to attack, damage, saves and skills pretty much all the time, except when suprised

>>53017407
It's shit.

>>53017353
>roll out of his bedroll
>smack his familiar to trying to drink his liquor
>begin drinking
>sob for a few moments thinking about his dead wife
>continue drinking
>open up his spell book
>look at his wizard gun and think about putting a bullet through his head
>drink
>prepare some spells
>drink
>decide to not kill himself

>>53017270
Homegirl got fucking pumped full of fucking murdereggs like it was going out of style. Hopefully the kittens will turn out alright, though. I hear she's trying to abort them.

>>53017394
Lots, look at em yourself

>>53017407
It's not bad for a low-level adventure, but the key here is that you're trading off precise strike and weapon training. Going all in on Inspired Blade would, in comparison, give you the benefits of Improved Critical, and a +9 to damage (+16 if you spend a panache point on precise strike), and that would last ALL DAY.

As it is, your character is only going to be able to exploit Archaeologist's Luck for a few rounds a day, and if any combat lasts past the first 10 rounds or so, you're fucked.

If you care more about the Bard's spells, you should probably go for Arcane Duelist instead. If you care about damage, go all in on Swashbuckler, or at least use Bard or Paladin as your dip rather than dipping Inspired Blade and then going into another class.

>>53017353
>wake up
>verify that she did in fact prepare her spells properly all night
>fondle whichever martial she decided to bed the night before
>passionately kiss said martial when they wake up
>go down on said martial
>make love
>bathe in a stream
>get dressed

Gosh, that's a couple hours, easily.

>>53017397
Will he ever add kissing a beautiful woman to that routine? What if she gives him her money?

>>53017493
Kissing would be the baseline. He'd probably not accept it if freely given. But perhaps, he would suggest, there might be some way for him to earn it?

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>>53017473
Thanks anon

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>>53017353
>Wake up early
>Drink glass of water
>Change out of nightclothes and into normal clothes
>Light candles or incense
>Perform a Harrowing
>Set psicrystal on table, feed it some bread or cheese
>Channel spirits of the city for the day
>Blow out candles or incense
>Stuff cards and psicrystal into pockets
>Put on floppy hat, scarf, and starknife
>Start cooking breakfast for self, and anyone else if party decided to crash at house for the night

All in all, it takes her about an hour and a half for her morning to come to a conclusion!

>>53017522
Oh yeah, how's Lazy been going? I've been disappointed at the lack of green text, it looked like a good party.

>>53017353
Now I don't play this character anymore, as she died after three sessions, but...
>Get up before anybody else does
>Unpack herself from whatever hiding place she was occupying
>Check to make sure that all her things are still where she left them
>Check to make sure her backup spellbook is still secure in the lining of her coat
>Study some spells off her main spellbook
>If nobody's looking, save on time by studying spells off the tattoos on her arms
>Rush a quick breakfast for herself and her familiar
>Send her familiar to scout the area and make sure there's nobody lying in wait
>Go somewhere open to to practice with her sword

>>53017517
What if he earned it by being his delightfully hammy, amusing self? Not everything needs to be complicated, after all. He is who he is; not everything in this world must be earned by slaying dragons.

>>53017353
>Wake up
>Go back to sleep

>>53017559
Looks like she wasn't paranoid enough.

>>53017590
Preparing for being captured, robbed, or snuck up on is one thing.

There can be no preparing for getting caught out in the open by a whole army (a Huge-sized one, in fact) of ice devils.

>>53017576
We'll call it a down payment then, so be sure to call on him for an extra service whenever you need it--his code wouldn't allow otherwise.

>>53017452
logs

>>53017624
His code will be the death of him if he lets it. Why, what if they had a tumble? How would he "repay" that? He should be satisfied that he receives such loving attentions, and leave it at that.

>>53017651
It ain't over; Manny Manticore likes to take it slow; he thinks it makes women respect him or something. Fucking weirdo, if you ask me, but what can you do?

>>53017548
We've not been greentexting because we've been going at a... well, a rather lazy pace! We just got finished with the "All The World's Meat" mission, the party is getting all nice and settled-in with how their roles are. For a reminder, it's:
>Bloodrager (Draconic)
>Inquisitor (Monster Tactician)
>Soulknife (Psychic Armory)
>Medium (Empath)

>>53017659
>Accept payment when it's due
>Accept rewards when they're earned
>Always take an even or better share of plunder
>Take every opportunity to increase your own fame and power
That case, he'd repay her by giving as good as he got. Or more than that, if it can be managed.

>>53017669
Ah, yeah--that was one of the only missions my old GM didn't cut out of CotCT. It seems the rule of thumb was "If it doesn't have a battle map, ignore it."

Good lord, that game was shit.

>>53017706
And his generosity would no doubt be memorable indeed. Otherworldly, even! For it is said that the daring may reap fruit of a steep price, and enjoy booty sought after by many.

>>53017752
Certainly not in a position to argue with that sentiment, and what's a proper villain without the audacity to pursue a prize? None but the finest booty in the land shall do--and I doubt any companion of his would fall outside that li'l category.

>>53017394
the signature systems ideas range from blatant min-maxing
>double action economy, and it can use things normally limited to one at a time while doing so

to
>no really guy the rules already let you do this to begin with did you even read

>>53017610
Looks like she wasn't paranoid about the right things!

>>53017394
>>53017827

I've been trying to come up with an interesting idea but the way the weapons work really make shooting the big guns seem vastly superior

>>53017860
Fair assessment, that. But then, we'd started out as prisoners getting strongarmed into service, Dirty Dozen-style.

>>53017522
>Feed psicrystal
What?
How do they eat?

What?

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>>53017353
>wake up
>sit in front of mirror, gently brush hair, tie braid and wrap it around base of ponytail
>dress out of satin pajamas, fold them neatly
>choose today's set of silk underwears, ease them on until they're snug and cool on her skin
>contemplate how her panties whisper secrets of creation and conjuration to her, while her brassiere makes her heart beat faster, as a vital part of necromancy is to understand the flipside, to know how it feels like to /live/
>gently slide on her white thighhigh socks, and feel how they promise her she can walk anywhere, and enact change and transmutation in the world with her own light steps
>carefully wear a lavish dress that suits her mood, spending five minutes doing all the ribbons or clasps up
>choose the necklace that enchants her the most that day, and watch herself put it on in the mirror
>rings, earrings, gloves, slight makeup
>finally, lower her tiara onto her head, there's a 20 minute stretch where the morning sun comes in through her bedroom window at just the right angle to make it sparkle and give it the illusion of a halo around her, she times it just right
>move to the full length mirror, spin, and smile at herself

Latest in game morning though was much simpler:
>wake up
>cry

>>53018107
>forgetting the pregnancy smock

>>53017827
Best signature system ideas?

>>53017353
>Wake up
>Praises his god for not killing him arbitraily im his sleep
>Prays to his god not to kill him today,he has work to do.
>waits a few seconds to make sure his god isnt going to kill him ironically after he gets done praying.
>Eats some sausage
>makes sure his armor is sufficiently menacing
>Checks the local map for ideal spots to set traps and sabotage
>Assorted plotting until the rest of the party wants to move on.

Praise Zyphus for another horrible day.

>>53018248
Hard to say.

GATTAI could be interesting, but one thing is it would depend on both the willingness and the compatibility of other partymembers.

Berserker drive (rage system) could be interesting if it was properly fleshed out: "bigger rage blade" is just a weapon

Gemini Drive same deal; if it's just "lol the mech gets two actions" that's both uninteresting and really fishing for bonuses

Amber Eye could prove interesting if it's doing something like planar traits or screwing line of sight

Jet Magnum's just a weapon but at least it's not just a range/size up of an existing ability and can be a system/theme of its own

The nanomachines are just DGcells. It's a handy thing to have; not best idea but it's simple and functional

From purely only what's written there, I think my favorites would be Jet Magnum, Amber Eye and GATTAI, in that order.

>>53018107
I want to snuggle Cashmere until she forgets her pain!

>>53018883
What are YOUR ideas for signature systems, anon? I'm thinking of revamping the nanomachines to be extensions of MAGNUM TWENTY-NINE's master's Occultist implements

Can anyone think of a CR4-5 that can win a one on one fight with an Aether Lance avowed? Preferably without some kind of asymmetry like Incorporeal soellcasting or something.

What if I added DR?

>>53017353
>Wake up at 2 in the morning and detatch self from roof of bedroom, inspect for assassins or Paladins
>Head to desk
>Check reports that have come in while I was getting my 2 hours of sleep
>Plan for 2 hours while eating Breakfast and crafting magic items
>Hour of paperwork to update paper trail and obscurificate it into the auditors equivalent of the Tomb of Horrors to keep my very grey area activities such as exporting weapons to nearby countries and into the hands of groups that will stop the upcoming war by acting as controlled opposition
>Head down into the dungeons to do experiments for an hour and meet with agents in Underground office hidden in temple catacombs
>Do check ups to see if anyone about town has requested my assistance through any of my proxies or if my spies have found anything interesting
>Go for a morning flight just before dawn
>Return to bedroom 10 minutes before the Maid arrives
>Get breakfast with the group while pretending everything is normal, work throughout on crafting.
>Attend meetings
Time wise, the character doesn't so much sleep as hunker down for 2 hours and plot.

>>53019041
Aether Lance is incredibly easy to calculate damage for.
Its strength is its multi targeting and mobility, in a 1v1 fight they're pretty much just using aether channel and smacking the enemy once per round.

>>53019064
Well, Id like it to be a fun fight. Are there any beasties that like to dart around that I should be looking at?

Failing that, a cute wolf girl will do

Anyone picked up the Living Greyhawk bundle from d20 thats on sale? thoughts?

>>53019041
Anon, DR against aether pulses is like AC against firearms.

Just as a gunslinger doesn't give a fuck no matter HOW MUCH MORE PLATE his fullplate gets, Untyped damage bypasses DR.

>>53019238
So much for that idea

Also rumor has it Forrest is going to be making crossclass barbarian feats so he can have raging punch girls with avowed powers

>>53019120
Make an enemy that darts around a lot and also spawns smaller enemies that hover in one place and shoot low-damage projectiles at the PC.

The PC will feel good when they line up three targets in a row and skewer them.

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>>53016698

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat/#TOC-Throw-Splash-Weapon

A miss with a thrown splash weapon does not cause *that* great a deviation in squares, and a grid intersection has merely AC 5, so the party should be safe unless the Alchemy bomber is throwing the Improved Acid Flasks very close to the party.

Later, three levels in conscript with a sphere specialization in Alchemy can help prevent focused fire:
>Alchemy
>Chemical Specialization (Ex): Starting at 3rd level, whenever the conscript throws a splash weapon, he can select 1 square, +1 square per 4 points of base attack bonus he possesses; these squares are not affected by the splash damage of that splash weapon. In addition, the conscript learns how to create an antivenom for any poison he knows the corresponding talent for; he can prepare such an antivenom in 10 minutes; if the conscript has a poison prepared of the corresponding type, he can convert it into an antivenom as a full-round action.

>>53017827
Where are the signature systems?

>>53019982
every app has a signature system idea as part of the pitch, at the bottom.

basically they'll become mechanical things for the chosen apps I believe.

>Mfw this general
https://youtu.be/npHNLE37mhg

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>>53020893
What did you expect?

Thread's really not all that different from Paizo themselves.

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>>53020893
But you love it, anon.

I've been thinking about going Bolt Ace 5 / Sniper Slayer for the rest of the levels for a long range combat/shank-if-needed build on a Small character. Does that sound viable to anyone else?

>>53017353
>Wake up naturally at 6AM
>morning exercise routine for 30 minutes
>cold cup of fresh spring water while asking the spirits of his dead wife and son to forgive him for the life he's living
>Some basic swordplay practice for another 30
>pack whatever he thinks he'll need for the day into his bags, don his armor, secure his sword's scabbard to his waist
>meditate in the common area until the rest of the party to join him

>>53017353
>Wake up
>Grab a brush and put on a little make up
>Ask why he left the keys upon the table
>Go forth and create another fable

>>53017353
>Wake up, possibly from a flashback t' childhood or teen years
>Roll outta bed
>If there's anybody with him, do so gently and without wakin' 'em up
>Pray to Iomedae
>Exercise a li'l bit
>If there was someone, wake 'em at this point
>Breakfast of whatever's available
>Get dressed an' into armor
>Strap on that greatsword
>Grab some gear

>>53017353
>lie in bed, regretting the life decisions that got him to this point
>clean self/groom while regretting life decisions
>acquire breakfast while regretting life decisions
>eat breakfast while regretting life decisions
>go out into the world looking for work he will inevitably regret having done.

>>53017353

>no need to wake up, take last watch so you can take care of morning camp duties

>shave
>shit
>breakfast for the party is already cooking
>brew coffee and tea for everyone
>maintain gear a bit
>pack up equipment
>help party maintain gear and stay clean
>lament life
>pray, because good people should pray
>hope you aren't a burden today

>>53017548
Inquisitor here, I greentexted the first couple sessions but thought there was no interest, so I stopped. I could keep regaling you with tales of the Lazy Throne party when I get home from work tonight.

>>53021453
There isn't. So don't bother.

>>53021453
Please do!

I am trying to use Hero Lab to equip two throwing axes, one in each hand, but it keeps saying "Can't equip light weapons with two hands." I don't want to use a light weapon with two hands, I want to use a light weapon in each hand.

How do I fix this?

>>53021480
>>53021488

I'm getting some mixed messages here senpai

>>53018883
An argument for the berserker drive is that it mentions blade skills.

This could potentially allow for dimensional assaulting mecha

>>53021546
Stop using hero lab

>>53021569
I wanna hear the greentexts too.

>>53021569
>>53021453
More after-session greentexts are always a good thing. I might not always read them, but they bring the thread quality up (unless they're for a meme game like RotJR, in which case it's better to keep them quiet).

>>53017353
1 hour
>wake up covered in sweat
>slip out of bed
>stretch
>wash up
>it won't wash off, still feel dirty
>stare at the mirror too hard
>decide who to be for the day
>dress, groom, apply makeup as needed
>check gear, pack bag
>combat exercises
>find breakfast
>feed and groom donkey/horse

>>53017353
>wake up
>arbitrarily think of breakfast, but fail to prepare it.
>ruffle up her clothes a bit and thinks about wearing something more expressive... before settling on her nun-wear again.
>apply makeup, mostly a vertical eyeliner stripe and some touch ups to hide acne.
>disappear for a while to prepare spells and such and brood over what she could've done better yesterday
>get some more book-whispering time before mysteriously appearing behind the party at around noon

>>53021618
not helpful

>>53021546
Two separate axes need to be in the inventory and put one in the main hand and the other in off-hand

>>53021809
Ah, i see. they were merging into the same stack, i had to select separate stacks.

>>53021834
ah, well thank you.

ugh, i feel like there were so many weapon fixes to 3.5/pf in 4th ed..

like why doesn't a halberd count as an axe? and why isn't there a feat to reduce the primary handed weapon penalty for two weapon fighting to 0?

>>53021315
>>53021397
>>53021778
>>53021801

4/6 party members here :D

>>53021940
not getting your full attack bonus on multiple attacks is so crappy, they are whiffle bat hits.

>>53017353
>Wake up after two hour-ish powernap
>High five my daughter, then get to work on making the shit I need for the day
>Spend til sunrise working on various projects I need to finish up on
>Oh, sun is up and/or time to go soon
>Guess I should go wake up the party and make sure they eat
>Fine, fine I'll eat too if it makes you feel better
>Probably need to compensate for the blood loss anyway
>do you really need to have tea in the middle of a dungeon, though? You couldn't wait?

>>53021672
No they don't They bring thread quality down a lot. Curse of the Lazy throne is still a /pfg/ game with an app process and will still result in shit posting.

>>53021948

>Wake Up at dawn
>Stretch
>Drink some water
>Smother campfire
>Eat some trail mix
>Put on Pack
>Head Out

15 minutes, tops

I can't get the PDF plug in for hero lab to work. It keeps saying i need to shutdown the program before i can install it.

>>53017353
Wake up in the morning feeling like C.Viper.

Choose a stage I'm out the door I'm gonna hit like a Sniper.

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>>53022227
Wake up dis 'mornin
smile at the rising sun
Sweet little bird
Right by my door step
Swinging sweet songs
A melody pure and true
Singin'
This is my message to you

Is there any new info for starfinder? ANy leaked books or anything?

I'm really looking forward to 9th level casters being gone/rare. Pazio's 6th level casters are remarkably solid.

>>53022171
ah, i see what I need to to there.
You have to download the installer from here:
http://www.wolflair.com/index.php?context=hero_lab&page=downloads
then install it while the hero lab program is not open.

>>53022171
Use YAPCG. It's just so much better.

>>53022393
Just that one of the iconics got posted.

http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ljrp?Meet-the-Iconics-Navasi


What type of character did you want to play?

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this is my axethrower build. any ideas for improvement?

>>53022428
Your GM lets you drop stats to 5?
And gives you a 22 point buy?

>>53022464
I'll probably be DM, so no characters for me.

I'm just excited to not have to tip-toe arround the full casters HP for six levels, only to bring down the hammer to counter their spellcasting ability.

Sorcerer with dimension door and teleport make campaigns....wonky. Really really wonky.

>>53022507
I was kind of pissed that Halberds weren't considered axes. It ruined my polearm idea.

>>53022540
Ask your GM to house rule it. Remember Rule 0!

>>53022509
It only drops to 5 because of racial penalties, which is perfectly legal under the point buy system. And its a 20 point buy, i get +1 to STR and DEX at levels 4 and 8

>>53022540
That's like saying knives are tiny swords and should qualify as such.

>>53022521
So how about what type of campaign you are going to run?

Homebrew space colony where everyone starts?

Custom space aliumz?

Unique, close range spaceships?

>>53022563
when you grab the by the center haft they wield very much like axes, though you have to swing high to prevent the shaft from hitting the floor.

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Has she been statted before?
Does anyone have it on hand/where/when it was done?

>>53022587
Didn't there used to be some rule about dwarves not being able to wield polearms? I think the whole "plant your spear" thing had to do with using taunt to convince people to charge.

>>53022464
>http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ljrp?Meet-the-Iconics-Navasi
>Literally a gay space comunist
Well that was somewhat expected. Still...they did it well. I like how her rich-kid view of street life was destroyed when she actually had to live it.

>>53022581
Something Like firefly. Somewhat episodic, where they have a general goal, and a few very specific powerful enemies they are hiding from.

>>53022587
*swing high
>avoid swinging high

>>53022559
Legal sure but maybe it's just the folks I know that don't like us playing literal retards that drop whenever there's a 1d6 drain.
And I missed the Dwarf Con bonus in the point calc, so 20 it is.

>>53022590
I mean I have a fireball sorcerer that I like that COULD work....But sorcerers just have so much ammo that her "one fireball a month" thing wouldn't really apply.

Yes, you degenerate scum have gotten me watching those fucking stupid japanese cartoons. I'm on like the sixth episode. It's ok.

>>53022590
Pretty sure it's something like a horribly min-maxed Sphere Sorcerer.

>>53022649
Kineticist.

>>53022679
...I guess. If you focus on killing yourself with burn you might get to make like one good fireball.

Even then, the sorcerer probably does it better.

The kinestist really shines when you play it like an archer.

>>53022635
lol, the dreaded charisma drain
I was going to say that he has a severe speech impediment, and lost many of his teeth in battle.

If your a sorcerer, and you don't take fly, haste, lightning bolt and fireball as your four spells you're dense.

>>53022721
I'm gonna haste this fly ass lightning bolt directly into your dense fireball hole.

>>53022698
I mean, I guess illithids could do across the board mental drain like they did way back when, but I don't know illythids in 3.5/pf

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>>53022678
>Sphere
A what now?

>>53022740
There are no illithids in PF.

There are actually many undead that do cha damage. Usually by ripping off your face. Literally.

>>53022739
>>53022721
I guess if you really want to max ranged DPS you could cast flame arrow. But that is aggregate damage, when you are fighting something huge and most of you're guys have good range.

>>53022721
>Lightningbolt
Why? Literally no reason.

>>53022793
>flame arrow
jesus

christ

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>>53022620
>Episodic Firefly thing
Man, now I want to play a big Reptilian !Jedi. A huge but nice guy who goes where the !Force takes him and helps out.

>>53022787
>There are actually many undead that do cha damage

notsureifserious.jpg

could you name a few? I'll make a note to avoid them.

>>53022833
I find it odd that reptiles would adopt the same values as mammals unless they were warmblooded, more like birds.

>>53022835
Not him but a CR3 Shadow can pop out of a wall and touch you for 1d6 Cha.
As long as your group as a whole has some way of dealing with the drain you'll probably be fine though, at least it isn't Con.

How would you describe/roleplay a Wizard with no ranks in knowledge arcana or spellcraft?

A druid with no ranks in survival?

An alchemist with no ranks in Craft(Alchemy)?

In character of course, out of character the answer is "dumbass".

>>53022973
A sorcerer who doesn't really understand the concept of magic but is good at channneling it and gets a "feel" for it but not in an academic sense (same for wizard except more like rope-memorization of spells rather than their essence and how they work)

A druid with no ranks in survival isn't as weird as the others, just someone who is very reliant on their given powers.

Alchemist is a little harder, though..

>>53022860
Toss in some Human, Magical, or !Force influence and who knows what you can get. Look at us right now, we keep crocodilians in communal cages and we turned natural enemies into true homies on farms.

Once they hit space travel, I'm sure you'd have to adopt a number of mammalian traits just to work together in SPESSSSSS

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How did all the Runelords circumvent death?
Have you used them in your games?

>>53023112
Didn't lust one swap bodies or something?
Or was that a trap in the research base's lust area?

>>53022833
The cool thing about the whole episodic stuff is that it is easy to make "episodes" that challenge each character individually on a character level without derailing the campaign.

>>53022973
I'd describe any of them as auto-rejected.

>>53023140
Wasn't that envy?

>>53022973
Alchemists can just be grenadiers.

>>53023167
>in character

>>53022898
Considering Cha is often a dump-stat and any stat at 0 is comatose other than Con....

>>53023325
Auto-rejected.

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>>53022826
an extra d6 on 4-5 attacks per round is going to add up after 2 or 3 turns.

>>53023388
No it's not. Given that most combat is over in two turns.

You get much more bang just using an empowered fireball several times in the same span.

>>53023388
a fifth level fireball is only 5d6

>>53022898
Shadows do Strength Damage...

>>53023411
did i not preface my statement with AGGREGATE DPS against high hp monsters?

>>53023414
No, it's 8d6 +8.

>>53023411
>bang
it ain't bang, its bang for your buck. As in buying fireworks. As in don't waste your money on m-80's and bottle rockets.

>>53022973
>Ah, that guy. He's a wizard? He told me he was a cleric of the god of magic. So what's even written in that crazy holy book he's always looking at during his prayer time?

>Of course I know her. The cute little tabby. She eats a lot more than a normal cat, but hey, most pets can't cast spells.

>What's there to know? You mix some chemicals and magic reagents, and stuff blows up. I've seen like six stage performances before, trust me, i know what I'm doing. My tumor is telling me its agitated so i should probably go find something to feed it.

>>53023459
>>53023431
>its added up over time
>its bout efficiency.
You are still wrong dude. It's ok.

>>53023459
>bottle rockets
>somehow bombarding your cousins with small explosives is a waste of money

You some kinda queer, boy?

>>53023418
... except when... they... don't...

>>53023451
empowered, it is, but what if you don't have a 5th level spell slot?

>>53023508
No. That's a 3rd level spell slot.

>>53023508
>a blaster
>without 2 metamagic traits
>also not taking into account feats for +Caster Level that the blaster sorcerer WILL HAVE

what kind of faggotry is this?

>>53023411
>Given that most combat is over in two turns.
Because the CR level of your encounter is way too easy.

>>53023539
>Not knowing an empowered spell uses up a spell slot 2 levels higher

>>53023544
No, most combats were things aren't going horribly wrong roll wise will be over in 2 turns, 3 at max. Any more than 5 and something is up.
>>53023578
>what are metamagic reducers.

>>53023578
ACTHUALLY, dumbass, two metamagic traits and appropriate feats means a 5th level human sorcerer will be capable of doing 1.5*(8d6+12) with a 3rd level spell slot, assuming this is a Draconic Sorcerer focusing on either fireballs or lightning bolts.

>>53023655
actually, I think I caught your retardation bug because this is supposed to be a 6th level sorcerer, christ

>>53023671
tripped over your own tardation

>>53022973
>Wizard
Went to school did to family tradition. Only knows his spells, because he studied only what was necessary to graduate and barely remembers any theory. Despite great arcane power and potential, they squander it for day to day convenience and make fun of it a lot.

>Druid
Spent all their time in an abundant grove where there was no need to forage because the trees literally handed food to them. Innocent and believes that everything will work out even if they don't try very hard because balance and harmony are the way of the world

>Alchemist
Learned by trial and error, no formal education but knows certain combination of things lead to certain results, but not why. May have been a slave for a real alchemist, or keeper of tribal recipes. Noteworthy in that an alchemist is still pretty good at the skill with 0 ranks.

>>53017907
Do you not feed your psicrystal?

Not really the point.
I'm just saying aggregate, if you are fighting a 200+ hp solo monster, 50 flame arrows is usually going to do more damage than 1 fireball.

>>53023585
>being this ignorant of how real combat in game takes place.

Look, I understand that the math screams out "combat should be over in two turns max" but the reality is that there are often more things going on than simply "I cast this combat ending spell and the dmaage dealer hits three times doing enough damage to kill the enemy".

Positioning, number of enemies, and actually using the monster roles to combat the types of characters in the party rather than relying solely on "CR" without that all important knowledge of "this type of monster counters this type of character class effectively" changes how combat works immensely. The Schroninger wizard that /tg/ says all full casters are capable of being is a lie, and in combat there is a lot more to consider than the sheer numbers and supposedly infallible mechanics of the crunch.

it's like the person who claimed that 18th level mythic characters can instagib all the Archdevils without actually readign what any of the archdevils were capable of doing and how they actually worked. If he had, then he would have known that 7 of them not only ignored his ultimate assault team but would have killed them outright upon arrival. The math says one thing, but the reality of the rules says something entirely contradictory, and 'in actual play' is another scenario entirely unrelated to the previous two.

>>53017907
>>53023758
Like johnny depp feeding his bird in The Lone Ranger

>>53022590
I think some kind of Arcanist would work. She'd consume spell slots to build her pool and metamagic+arcane fuckery it all into one higher level spell. You'll have to find a way around the maximum pool limitation, or settle for being able to cast TWO explosions per day instead of ONE. Signature Spell can be taken for whatever the closest thing to Explosion is, presumably Fireball.

>>53015677

You have henchmen and base camps and stuff, and you're surprised the GM thought this was an offer to have them dragged, screaming, into side tunnels.

>>53023760
Are you going to be able to fire 50 flame arrows before it kills you?

>>53023900
where do you even buy 50 flame arrows

the flame arrow store

>>53023811
It's not worth arguing with White Rooms mate.

If I get picked for Overlewd I want to surprise my party by spamming goodberry.

>>53023964
what

>>53023937
I'm trying to buy flame arrows but there's only soup here.

>>53023811

You're assuming good GMing to design encounters that are tough and interesting and don't kill you.

I dunno if that's a thing you can just... assume.

Even for tougher fights, without artificial HP inflation and with a slightly minmaxed team (of casters, or thugrogues or damage barbarians or whatever), it's very unlikely to go beyond turn 2. I'm not that guy, but the argument of 'schrodinger wizards aren't as good as people think' doesn't actually prove that combat lasts longer. Without hp inflated + low damage enemies, which is boring, very, very boring, the difference between a fight which kills the party and a fight which is hard is typically 'does a turn 3 happen?'. Not that guy, but your argument is.. assumey.

>>53023811
In and most of the games I've played combats were over in 2-3 rounds unless something aberrant was going on or there were an unusual amount of enemies. Such circumstances were exceptions, not the rule.

>>53024035
Not nearly as assumptive as "the math says this so of course all combats must end this way", anon.

>>53024050
This. You can't say "WOOOW WHITEROOM" when this is what I've actually sat through pretty much every time the players and DM had a clue.

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>mfw all the male apps in Overlewd

>>53024050
tell us about your combats. what was your party composition? What were you fighting? What spells did you use? How did they end?

>>53024080
Which ones in particular do you hope to see crying and broken, anon?

>>53024069

I'll take the math + the experience of PF fights over 'oh but the GM can compensate for that' which, is actually really hard to do without killing the party, and uncommon, except via the hp-inflation method which is bad.

You wanna say someone's math/methodology is bad, fine. Just do it without saying that fights go for longer than two rounds in PF, cause they overall do not. If that's the case, either the group is unoptimized by PF standards, possibly very, or something weird is going on, or the GM is really good at making these complicated encounters that don't kill the party but also go on for a while.

>>53024153
Maybe you're DM is just softballing you monsters. Maybe he should adjust the CR by a few levels.

>>53024191
Maybe you're full of shit.

>>53024149
Lucious watching his imouto getting plowed by the all the other males taking turns pumping her full of their hot sticky white stuff until she's a mind broken fuck doll that only knows how to hump with her hips and suck with her mouth.

>>53024213
I want to be the imouto

>>53024191
>softballing you monsters
Or he's playing them straight. As in, clear open white squeaky square room with PCs up against CR appropriate monsters as written in the bestiaries they've all memorized. This is perfectly fine, but it's only one way to play PF.

>>53024081
>Psion, Druid, Magus, Rogue/Sorcerer, Fighter(NPC) APL is around 7
>vs Undead Necromancer/Cleric(Unknown Level)+Crystal golem
Turn 1
>Psion manifests Ectoplasmic Sheen on Golem
>Golem is knocked down
>Druid sics buffed up wolf on Golem
>Fighter wails on golem
>Golem tries and fails to get back up
>Magus wails on golem
>Golem is down
>Necromancer paralyzes Psion
>Rogue attacks necromancer
>Turn 2
>Psion begins summoning construct
>Wolf and druid attack Necromancer
>Fighter attacks necromancer
>Magus attacks necromancer
>Magus attacks necromaner
>Necromancer uses Anti-Life Shell.
>Next turn
>Construct beats necromancer
>Necromancer goes down

Or something like that, it's been a few years since that combat. It took no longer than 3 turns to be over and it was basically decided by turn 2.

>>53024213
I want to pump her tight ass full of baby batter and then force Lucius to lick it out

>>53024321
>Ectoplasmic Sheen
this spell isn't listed on d20pfsrd

>>53024382
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/psionic-powers/e/ectoplasmic-sheen/
Are you dense?

>>53024382
It's the psionic equivalent of grease.
I like how everyone's attacks automatically penetrated the adamatine damage reduction and the necromancer was utterly unprepared for a fight and didn't cast Anti-life shell FIRST.

It's almost as though the GM didn't know how to run a good fight.

How much effort do you put into researching aspects of your character's life or analogue culture? I just got a book on Medieval Cuisine specifically so I can be faithful to the period.

Do you do anything special for outsider familiars? Like if someone has one of the good outsider familiars would they act as reliable guides in moral decisions?

>>53016617
Alternatively, if PoW is banned, try to get aegis instead.

>>53024470
That is quite literally what the Familiar for a Chosen One is meant to be, a guide and mentor for their childish charge.

>>53024469
I just throw stuff together based on google searches and talk with a funny accent.

>>53024247
I want to be Eiffel Towered by Romulus and Remus.

>>53024437

Sometimes the party gets the drop. Characters also have ranged options.

I like that you're so butthurt about this that you're complaining about that.

And inventing details about the fight that the OP didn't put in there. Like how they 'penetrated the DR automatically'. Yeah, okay. Or maybe they did above baby level damage, and/or had the adamantine weapons that come standard in golf club bags at that level. It's not a lot of fucking money for a masterwork adamantine greatsword that someone can sploop a greater magic weapon spell on, at a level where goddamn antilife shell and crystal golems start showing up.

>>53024437
Yes, because everyone who does damage worth a damn had pretty much no issue getting pass the DR. And there was a critical in there too. I'm pretty sure.

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>>53024213
>>53024349
Just a friendly reminder that Lucius can still spec into Augmented Expansion+Mighty Frame+Primal Warrior Stance+Zenith strikes. And he is Sense Motive focused.

>>53024531
I'm about to augment my expansion of his imouto's womb!

>this thread
Y'all motherfuckers need Jesus!

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/e/explode-head/

>>53024470
Very little to none.

Honestly, maybe I rely on too many fetish characters, but I usually end up spinning them off into something else, like the Half-Dragon female Jester with Reduce/Enlarge Person

>>53024515
I just realized the Eiffel Tower by Andrik and Kyras takes on new meaning when you put into context their characters; one is golden and good, the other is black and brooding. If Andrik was an Aasimar, you'd get a really neat thing going.

>>53015898
What monster is the DM using? I need to use this monster ASAP!

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>>53024564
>implying even he could save us at this point

Flee while you can, anon. There is only death here.

>>53024515

I want to pick up where Kent's great-grandmother / mom left off and make an army of charmingly retarded bishōnen.

>>53024191

Maybe I am the GM, and after fairly small amounts of optimization, the 'long fight' monsters will kill the party. So either I have big balls of hp with tiny amounts of damage for the party to whittle down like chunks of wood, or I have credible foes who last 1-2 turns before either the party needs to run or the party has won, or I have credible foes who last longer than that, but they are going to kill the party because anything that can weather the party's attacks for 3+ turns while having an attack that can threaten the party at all, is going to kill them. Or force them to run. PF's math is fairly simple especially with any degree of optimization running over it. Your repeated assertion to the contrary, supported by ad hominem, doesn't actually change that the game is not robust enough to support long fights without a) intentionally unoptimized characters b) boring sacks-of-hp-with-weak-attack monsters who can't threaten the party meaningfully c) artificially extended fights which is really fucking hard to do while making it seem natural and not just 'more enemies arrive'.

>>53017353
>wake up
>read from Aroden's Holy Book
>wash up
>go groom his Dragon
>discuss today's plan with Psychic Mage Waifu, Magus Ganker, and Dwarf Cleric Jew
>suit up himself and Dragon.

>>53024601
I don't think they'll go for it. They're both too morally upstanding!

>>53024564
But how can we be wrong? Teh anime is gone from OP XD!

>>53024628

Dragons don't need grooming, their scales are a marvel of evolutionary engineering.

>>53024521
So the players had prep time and the necromancer casts antilife shell AFTER they attack, on the second round? That wolf must have been doing some incredible damage to get past DR 10/Adamatine. 3000 GP is a low amount of money at 23000 wealth by level, sure. And they must have known about it before hand and gotten all adamatine weapons and done huge amounts of damage to kill the golem in a single round with single attacks unelss they happened to start combat in the same square?

It's either an idiot GM or a bunch of made up crap to prove combat lasts no more than 2 rounds.

>>53024700
it might have been an imperial dragon. They have manes that can be braided

>>53024700
>their scales are a marvel of evolutionary engineering.
Like horse butts?

>>53024603
He isn't running it the way PF statted it, good on him since it's questionably statted, and it looks like the marionette may actually be filling its "role" both in the story and as a monster rather than it literally being there.
Read the story if you want its name.

>>53024633
Kyras has a reputation to maintain while Andrik is still a horny teenager. I'm sure it won't be hard to convince either of them after a few drinks and the right lead up.

>>53024558
Do not penetrate wombs. It hurts.

>>53024719
Sounds good thanks anon, going to go get a copy of the book.

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>>53024729
I never got the obsession with that kind of encounter, your cervix isn't another button to slam past, it doesn't feel pleasant to push and any penetration that happens is extremely unhealthy for both the woman's short and long-term reproductive health.

>>53024729
I'll expand it with the sheer pressure of my load!

>>53024564
>this thread
But discussing which handsome lord our precious, pure Valeria should be betrothed to is beyond the pale, right?

>>53024735
It's an old enough story it's gone public domain
http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/mm.aspx
But some of the compilation books its in make great bookshelf pieces.

>>53024709
The Wolf was pretty insane and the main damage dealer. I may be mismembering some fine details but the combat didn't last longer than 3 rounds.

>>53024728
Splendid! There's only so much to do to pass the time at camp, after all.

>>53024798
>standing up while surrounded
>all dose attacks of opportunity
>all dat -4 AC

>>53024807
Don't acquire too much of a reputation as the party bedwarmer! If you do, than neither of them might want to marry you!

>>53024808
I would have a very hard time not slapping a kid who did that.

>>53024769
>Valeriya
>Pure
>Precious

Kek.

>>53024773
But anon, those don't pipe human words, they say tekeli-li.

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>>53024769
Shipping Wars?

>>53024769
No, neither are acceptable. Not because of lewdness, but because we don't care about your meme games.

you think you should be able to use thrown ranged weapons like daggers and axes while prone?

>>53024831
I mean that was pretty much what I meant by "wailed on".

You know in persona when the guy gets knocked down and someone shouts some variation "lets shitstomp the fucker!".

That's what happened more or less.

>>53016702
Take Iron Tortoise or Eternal Guardian. If you really want to cheese it, take the Zweihander Sentinel archetype.

>>53024864
It's okay SaltAnon, you'll get into a game someday!

>>53024874

With a penalty, sure. I've thrown things while on my belly before, it's not that hard.

>>53024874
A prone attacker has a –4 penalty on melee attack rolls and cannot use a ranged weapon *(except for a crossbow).

*(except for crossbows and light thrown weapons)

>>53024891
>Durr hurr your just made you didn't get in
No, I'm just sick of people obessing creepily over motherfucking characters in games they aren't in and dragging the thread down with babble about how they want to eat cum out of one character's asshole.

Take the circle jerk to the fucking discord.

>>53024883
well then why have the golem stand up? Just attack on the floor or use mind thrust.

>>53022521
You said it. Our Party got access to teleport, and we started sequence breaking Rise of the Runelords hard.

>>53024940
4chan has made me bizarrely comfortable slash fiction.

So whats a good HP Sponge/ Impenetrable AC build?