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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Starfinder setting theroys: Exactly how technologically advanced with the general setting be? Are we going the current meta of semi realistic with box shaped ships and similar junk? Perhaps the aesthetic of ye olde raygun gothic? Or maybe a skip hop and jump past all of those and go full singularity and hit Warframe.

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Current Playtests: https://pastebin.com/quSzkadj

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>>53024973

Old Thread: >>53015647
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I kinda wish Druids had to be true neutral. It doesn't make sense for druids to be anything but.
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>>53025200
How do you figure? Even if Nature is "Unaligned," as it were, druids are people, and people vary in motivation and belief. It's not unreasonable to think that different kinds of people could nevertheless approach the same idea of communing with Nature from different sides, so to speak.
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>>53025200
They used to have to be. But at least they are still locked in to being one of the three middle neutral alignments
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New Iconic for Starfinder released

Please lower expectations of Iconics and NPCs

http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ljrp?Meet-the-Iconics-Navasi
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>>53024973
Its likely going to be very similar to all of those. The way the developers described it was on a scale from starwars to star trek, with firefly in the middle. They said starfinder is going to be between starwars and firefly with a lot more magic involved.

If you read the distant worlds book, you will have a good idea to the general theme
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>>53025593
>paizo characters
>Expectations

nobody ever had any
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>>53025556
One of the 5 neutral alignments. NE druids are the best druids.
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>>53025543
that makes sense actually. Didn't think about it that way.
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>>53025593

Sometimes the comment section produces gems.
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What are the current recruiting games? My Wednesday game is ending soon and I need to fill the gap.
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>>53025675
None. Overlewd closed early and now /pfg/ games are done forever.
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My shaman (lev 14) became a juju zombie. I have a bit of downtime and like 100k gold to get shit. What can I do to cover my new weaknesses and take advantage of the situation?
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>>53025686
Thank god.
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>>53025686
Wrong, there's Raining Oil and Blood and the Kobold queen shit
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>>53025543
>>53025556
>>53025200
Allow me to explain.
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>>53025675
Dimensional Ark Abyssia?
Raining Oil and Blood?
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>>53024973

Post space fashion.

post your character's booty in space fashion
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>>53024973
I just want plenty of Dominion of the Black content. That's all I ask.
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>>53025715
Incorrect. Those two games don't exist.
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>>53025675
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/76041/mighty-quest-for-epic-loot-in-the-lair-of-the-kobold-queen

Seems alright here. Like blood and oil but probably less weird mechanics and more fantasy
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>>53025731
>Dimensional Ark Abyssia?
That's implicitly just for Discord people by its very nature.
>Raining Oil and Blood?
Not even PF but some weird home-brew play test by someone who needs to pick a different system.
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>>53025698
luckily for you, a juju zombie is still intelligent undead. You can probably become alive again, or become a more powerful undead if you prefer
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>>53025731
>Dimensional Ark Abyssia?
What is this?
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>>53025630
>Nature is really cute!
>Nature is really organized!
>Nature is really crazy
>Nature is really vicious
>Nature is really Nature
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>>53025800
I plan to become alive in the long term, but short term, the idea of a juju zombie shaman sounds cool as hell. Just need to figure out what works well with being undead, and what I can't use anymore.
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>>53025808
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75856/dimensional-ark-abyssia
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>>53025787
It's kobolds, anon. Which means it sucks.
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>>53025796
But I'm going to apply to Abyssia and I'm not a "Discord person"
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>>53025675
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75981/raining-oil-and-blood
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/76041/mighty-quest-for-epic-loot-in-the-lair-of-the-kobold-queen
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75969/the-untold-saga

These are the current ones I think?
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>>53025838
Tell me why I shouldn't apply as a succubus 8/antipaladin 2 gestalted with something totally Cha based.
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>>53025827
pretty much everything good still works, except you heal with negative energy and you cant gain moral bonuses or anything similar.

>>53025846
I think it was just the name. No one actually applied as a kobold (yet)
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>>53025593

>Be Executive Princess
>Have everything you could ever want
>lol no fuck that I'm going to fight the good fight for equality
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>>53025773

Got you Senpai!
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>>53025852
Isn't that Rhuse game still recruiting, too?
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>>53025860
Because GMs don't look at mixmaxed characters and think to themselves "YES PERFECT"
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>>53025796
You're right about the second game. It's basically my experiment with 'how autistic do I have to be to make this work in system that clearly can't handle it?'
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>>53025860
>"Humanoid characters who forgo these classes and races will receive mechanical and narrative benefits of their own to balance the disparity"
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>>53025838
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75856/dimensional-ark-abyssia
>Dimensional Ark Abyssia is not a serious game.

Ah well. I thought a dimensional lower planes shit sounded interesting.

I was going to be a daemon who's death was based on suffocation in a vacuum.
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>>53025773
Part of me is planning to play a more Turtle Oriented Lizard alien with a blue and green backpack.
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>>53025593

Tell me what a "holo-gown" looks like.
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>>53025838
So much meme potential but I think the nature of it will keep it from picking up steam here.
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>>53025899
mighty quest seems like its all about space and the planes as well
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>>53025862

It's the name, the likely main NPC and the art. It's Kobold obsessed.
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>>53025917
in TiTs they have clothing that is technically just a hologram
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>>53025850
And you're going to fail because of it.
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>>53025899
I'm impressed that Abyssia managed to lay out its tone and premise 100% better than Overlewd using about 5% of the text.
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>>53025938
>Trials in Tainted space
Please.
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>>53025947
I think most apps didn't get that Overlewd is probably a lot of kingdom building.
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>>53025947
Fluffy Tale 1 had one of the best pitches for a game that laid everything out clearly.

R.I.P. Fluffy Tale
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>>53025918
>Implying the discord cabal won't shitpost and samefag about it until the other celeb game hangers-on do likewise because "DAA is so hot right now"
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>>53025944
Oh I dunno, I've got an idea so meme worthy it will put Discord people to shame. Just you wait and see
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>>53025985
Kill yourself
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>>53025773

sadly, most of my ass if fantasy. not science.
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>>53024973
>Picture

What is that?
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>>53026001
but duo apps!
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>>53026036
Warframe.
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>>53025983
>>53025985
I've talked to about a dozen different Overlewd applicants and all of them have said that not understanding the tone of the game was a huge hurdle for chargen.
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>>53025796
I'll agree the whole ROaB thing would probably work infinitely better in Silcore or Mekton Zeta.
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>>53026036

warframe
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>TFW everybody forgot that the Great Bamboozling is going to make its character selections in 3 days

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71521/the-great-bamboozling

What's your dream party for this one?
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>>53026053
Oh I have a partner anon, and we've both got memes
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>>53026036
Unending grinding
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>>53026072
I'm actually fairly confident in my understanding of the tone or setting. And if I'm wrong, I think I wouldn't want to get in.
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>>53025938

TiTs is the worst piece of shit I've ever played, it's the grand example of how building a game on the cum-slathered dollars of furry clients will utterly ruin your product.

Almost every woman has a cock, and men are almost nonexistent. It's a game so starved for normal-ass human morphs that the moment you meet one, just like in CoC, they become the most popular character.
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>>53026036

aesthetically pleasing grinding. With interesting, if divisive lore.
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>>53026084
Never played the first game you mentioned, but I did try mekton Z. Character creation was awful, relevant rules weren't condensed at all, combat was pretty irritating, and it had even more autistic number crunching than PF. No thanks.
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>>53026142


I liked the fact that Warframe was locked to a single solar system and interstellar travel was a death sentence.
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>>53026190
Very similar to starfinder. You can travel between systems but it either takes way too long, or the FTL is too dangerous and you end up stuck in hell or heaven or the elemental planes
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>>53026158
MZPlus is a lot more solid than PF. Number crunching may be autistic but no worse than DPS optimization on here, and at least it doesn't *hide* the options doing so.

I'll admit the rules needed some layout upgrades, but it's sounding a lot like a "uh, I read it it looked hard so pathfinder's better" claim there.

Silcore is the system that heavy gear is based on. It's excellent on most fronts except if you're hoping for heavy attrition (it's more of a plink plink miss miss BOOM with the damage multiplier system). Vehicle creation is as involved as you want it to be, which for some of us means carefully balancing whether the miscellaneous threat value can handle an additional exponent (pic related)
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>>53026138
>w building a game on the cum-slathered dollars of furry clients will utterly ruin your product.
This. When I heard about it I was hoping to have the chance to bone wierd alien babes, with bizarre physiologies and traits, and wierd looking genetalia.

Instead its Furry Dating Simulator in Space, because Fenoxo is a hack. I mean, if I wanted to fuck furries, I'd go back to playing more CoC, with the Revamp mod. At least then you had no delusions about what you were getting yourself into.

Whereas TiTs its just nothing but humans who Otherkinned into Furries, and Bugs. And while I can appreciate some nice bugfucking, this is just too much. And don't even get me fucking started on New Texas, which is just fucking awful and comprised of just lazy Cowgirl bullshit slathered with a pastiche of wrong Texan stereotypes, which sucks because I can't enjoy my Lactation fetish in this game because I have to sit through all that bullshit

Hence why the only good alien races in the whole game are the Vanae and Raskvel, because at least tey aren't just pointless anthros and have their own gimmicks. Seriously, TiTs is just such a trash heap.

Also Shekka is best girl, and I demand a fertility quest!
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I'm considering allowing In the Company of Dragons for my next game. Have you guys played with it? How did it work out for you?
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>>53026285

i've had loads of fun with it so far. Just make sure that Humanoid form is available. and i'd honestly give it out for free.
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>>53026302
>name fagging for no reason
Fucking kill yourself.
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>>53026276
Raskvel are just kobolds but in space with ears.

not that there is anything wrong with that

Also there is nothing wrong with weird-ass alien bugs don't be a bigot
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>>53026313

>DM who run's Dragon Game 1, Dragon Game 2. The few games that actually allowed Company of Dragons. Probably one of the few people on /pfg/ That have allowed its use.

SEagle's a bro. Shut your face.
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>>53026247
The thing Is, I don't really have time to learn a new system with an outdated rules layout, regardless of whether or not it makes sense in the end. I also wasn't using Zeta Plus. It wasn't really an issue of whether PF was 'better' or not, it was more the people I could potentially get involved, and the familiarity of the system I was most comfortable with. I'm also salty the hypersonic aircraft build I tried ended up sucking inordinate amounts of cock due to turn speeds and reflex penalties or whatever they were called.

Silcore sounds more methodical than what I'm looking for, but I might end up taking a peek at the rules for a later date.
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>>53026276

Oh my god don't even get me started on the Revamp mod, an improvement so total I can't imagine playing CoC without it.

And what does Revamp add, you might wonder? A great many things, but the most appreciated and perhaps the most pathetic is the inclusion of... Get this... NORMAL PEOPLE! Yes! You can finally find an actual man to have your woman sleep with, you can find Valkyrie and bone them! Isn't that pathetic? Ooh, ooh! Here's another thing that frosts my cheerios; remember that Jaguar Demon from the Deep Forest? Originally, it remained in jaguar form when it fucks you, but apparently that made furries uncomfortable so fenoxo made him turn into a genetic buff anthro form to do the deed! Yes, the same furries that greenlighted a kink that involves shoving pale wriggling worms down your urethra thought a jaguar or horse or even a wolf fucking your character was too much.

That entire debacle laid bare to me the minds of the furry, and it was as pathetically conservative as it was perverted.
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>>53026313
Fuck off, SEagle's good people.
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>>53026285
It's a good race with plenty of variety, but there are some limitations.

Unless you take either Draconic Hero or Draconic Exemplar, you're screwed for size progression, and some of the classes DH can cover do lose out on some serious benefits.

The other big issue is that they don't naturally breathe fire/ice/whatever. It's locked to a X/Day usage (that also is used for other stuff which sounds ridiculous), and if you don't take Draconc Exemplar or the Sorcerer archetype, you're even more fucked with feat taxes. That said, you can take some of Draconic Exemplar's other nice stuff (the two pools of talents for fun things) if you're angling for something specific.
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So how does improved familiar work? can i choose on of the familiars off the list as a level 1 wizard?
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>>53025880
Nope, players were picked on Monday.
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>>53026364
>Also there is nothing wrong with weird-ass alien bugs don't be a bigot
You're right, there's nothing wrong with wierd alien bugs.

But these aren't alien bugs, these are just lazily designed earth insect furries that aside from a few little bits here and there are just humans in bug consumes. The only cool ones are the Syndians, which are just Anthro Rust Monsters, and the ethnic race war that occurring between the Myr, despite the fact that the Myr themselves are just lazily designed.

And don't even get me fucking started on how boring the Zil are, both in design and concept. Seriously the only interesting Zil is that betamax who's working for a White Man's Burden analogue. that's sad.

>>53026433
I don't mind that there aren't much normal people in CoC, since it is a decent and interesting part of the lore. However I just love all the quality of life changes and great level of option availability that it added. Especialy expanded merchant stuff and the survival mechanic.
But yeah, the Akbal thing was completely pathetic and retarded, just like Fenoxo himself is
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Is there a sourcebook for Varisia, or would I find details about it in RoTR?
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>>53026441
>>53026368
His little fan club can fuck off too. Run off to the discord and suck his fucking cock if you love him so damn much.

Faggots.
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>>53026576
Varisia, Birthplace of Legends (PZO9425)
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Not having to sleep is great!
But partying with people who have to sleep is boring when you don't have to sleep.

What do your characters who don't sleep do while the rest of the party catches z's?
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>>53026576
Yes, its called "Varisia: Birthplace of Legends"
Also check the info in te APs and the ISWG
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>>53026613
>>53026576

https://ttop.rem.uz/Pathfinder/Companion/PZO9425%20Varisia%2C%20Birthplace%20of%20Legends.pdf
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>>53026616
Has sex with them.
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>>53026613
Not sure how I missed that. Thanks.
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>>53026616
Craft.
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>>53026644

see this

>>53026622
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>>53026630
This
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LoB&F tonight! Let's get our ships into over drive.
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>>53026616
PErform equipment maintenance for them, take watch, record the day's events in a detailed journal, read a book, do a crossword, finish some cross-stitch, engage in a minor craft like drawing, organize your loot, plan your inevitable magic item shopping list, fap
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>>53026606
you seem mad for some reason.
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>>53026676
Fuck off.
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>>53026676
Let's not.
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>>53026616
Crafting. Writes journals. Plans the next few centuries.
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>>53026616
My warforged cowboy ranger back in 3.5 used to play a few country tunes on his !guitar to lull everyone into a comfortable sleep- then he'd play all night long to keep the depression away.
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>>53026672
Thank you kindly.
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>>53026616
>craft shit
>write notes
>wonder how the fuck he's not dead yet
>think about home
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How do I get better at roleplay and feel less of a worthless piece of shit?
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Why does everyone give shit to Spheres of Might for being all "lol megahuge damage" and "lol hope you weren't expecting to contribute out of fights" when Path of War does the exact same thing and Path of War is so beloved it's basically STANDARD in all /pfg/ games?
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I need city-state ideas, /pfg/. Have anything for me?
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>>53025860
Just because you're the best mechanically, doesn't mean the GM likes your creation.
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>>53026313
>>53026606

You know, it's kinda funny, the only time I ever notice that namefags are in a thread is when some autist starts throwing a tantrum because single line of green text not saying "Anonymous" triggers them.
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>>53026853
PM someone cute and practice
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>>53025593
>metal boxes
>METAL BOXES

The cowards! The fools!
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>>53026915
Because PoW is ToB ver 2.0, and ToB was the first way to make martials that were passable without optimizing the shit out of them. A good chunk of it is momentum left-over from ToB.

Good skill lists, a strict need for a good mental stat, and none of that "2+int" bullshit helps. And there's a bunch of maneuvers and stances that at the very least help out-of-combat.
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>>53026945
A kitsune city-state. It's built on top of a giant fey Eldest fox who roams around the First World.
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>>53026967
SIIINDRIIIIIIIII
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>>53026977
There's even more SoM talents for noncombat though.
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>>53026915
In addition to >>53026977
SoM seems to be just psuedo-full attacks, which isn't the versatility in combat that I liked about with PoW.
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>>53026966
But anon, I want to know how to get better so I can continue to PM cute people.
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>>53026825
speaking of Warforged, has there ever been a Pathfinder conversion for them? I mean they'd probaly work fine as is, but I'd be curious to see what changes people made.

I've seen similar races, but they've all been either more overtly mechanical like Gearforged, or some kind of golem-cyborg thing like the Forgeborn.
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>>53027022
Practice with someone cute. What kind of stories do you like?
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>>53026945

Why not an Imperial Free City? It's effectively a city and the surrounding territory in an empire that answers only to the Emperor.
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Tell me about your character's themesong, /pfg/!
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>>53027022
You get better by actually RPing. Everyone sucks at RPing at first. But they got better but PMing someone and doing some RP. So PM someone you like and get to RPing!
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>>53027040

I like tons of stories, like fantasy and trashy romance! I'm interested in improving on my ability to roleplay people interactions and lewd.
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>>53027018
>SoM seems to be just psuedo-full attacks

Bullshit, SoM is all about ATTACK ACTIONS, where you make just one attack.

You can mix it up and put all kinds of extra effects on them, like shaken, sickened, pushed away, knocked prone, etc.

Stop talking out your ass.
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>>53027058
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FrG4TEcSuRg
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>>53027082
>dat spoiler
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>>53026915
Because we expected SoM to learn from the mistakes of PoW.
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>>53027087
Depends on what you build for senpai, but being able to stack ten things on one attack action is just as shit as full-attack bload
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>>53027111
SoM has more variety than PoW.
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>>53027046
I didn't even know those existed. Interesting idea.

>>53026995
That would be a little tough to fit in.
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>>53027082
Then come up with the outline of a fantasy scenario with some romance or lewd in it, and PM it to someone cute to see if they're interested in playing it out.
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>>53027034
https://sites.google.com/site/eberronpathfinder/conversion-info/races/warforged
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>>53027034
There's been a couple. google is your friend.
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>>53027082
Hey, I need to get better at those things too, anon! Are you on discord?
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>>53027163
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>>53027121
Aren't all of the 2hu builds for SoM just pure huge damage, no debuffs?
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>>53027170

Yes, I am! Though I'm not on now, I'd love to roleplay some stuff with you and see how it goes.
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>>53027082
>>53027170
I'm happy to help either or both of you if you like.
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>>53027174
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>>53027122
PoW has variety and people don't use it. Do you know why? Because unless it's a debuff that basically removes the enemy from combat, direct damage is just a better option. And to do that, PoW doesn't need much investment. So we get the Counters+multihit strike meta we see. Do you really think the value of that "variety" will change with SoM, when 1pp and PoW didn't?
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>>53027126

It's not an "idea," it's literally a thing that existed in the Holy Roman Empire.
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>>53027225
Post deets.
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>>53027235
>So we get the Counters+multihit strike meta

Lemme guess, all your initiators are Reflected Blade Style + SFS/Zenith + damage stance?
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>>53027157
>https://sites.google.com/site/eberronpathfinder/conversion-info/races/warforged


thanks, I like the way that one replaced the old feats that swapped the default plating with a different material with alternate race traits
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>>53027225
THIS CANNOT CONTINUE
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>>53027210
>>53027225
I'm not gonna name drop here, but the spoiler should make it obvious.
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>>53027273
Nope, I don't use any of that, other than a damage stance as one of my 1st level choices and take a utility stance for the other. There's a lot of "skill check in place of AC" and "standard action to hit multiple times" maneuvers at 2nd level across a ton of disciplines. Not everyone is 2hu tier autism, but there's still clear cut winners with PoW outside of his meme combo.
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>>53027332
>meme
Does this shit even mean anything any more?
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>>53027325

Do you seriously think you have a monopoly on wanting to handle two players at once?
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>>53027376
>an element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by nongenetic means, especially imitation.
We repeat the Zenith+RBS+Primal Warrior Stance thing enough that I'd classify it as one.
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>>53027325

Anon, what are you doin.

Anon stahp
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Hey /pfg/ whats your favorite monster from the new bestiary, mine is pic related she's just so cute

On related note does this bestiary seem to have a disproportional high number of higher cr creatures?
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>>53027394
Look, I'm awful at RP and I want to get better. This isn't for threesome lewds. This isn't for lewds period. I want to play a character and play that character well. Also my descriptive language is awful and needs work.
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>>53027325
Anon please, you're drunk
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Completely off-topic, but are there any good 3rd party books that have come out this year so far?
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>>53026945
>less 'city-state' than 'independent village'
>population consists mostly of amnesiacs, victims of Baleful Polymorph who were only partially cured, etc.
>someplace for them to lie while they seek out details from their pasts or work to build new lives
>primary agitator for "we need to find our pasts" is a young-ish Tengu, who remembers little besides that he was human once
>the primary agitator for "let's move on and forget" is an old Minotaur(?) who's forged a new life with a loving wife and children, and remembers nothing of his past at all
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>>53027273
There are plenty of great combos outside of that one specific "turbo optimization" combo that is not nearly the DPR it's claimed to be, anon. Something like Rapid Strike + Minute Hand + [Damage Stance Here] has served me pretty nicely, for example, though I don't like whipping it out unless I'm in panic mode.

Actually, now that I think about it: Post your favorite maneuver combos, as well as what level they'd actually come online.
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>>53027267
>>53027210
>>53027082
>>53027394
Immortal King in Darkness [IKiD] #4988
I'm not always available, but I'd love the practice.
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>>53027454
See >>53027486
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>>53027454
Are you saying that because your descriptive language is bad, or just because it's not a paragraph about how your character looks and acts each time he has something to say?

If the former, sure. If the latter, you're not writing too little--they're writing too much. You should just focus on details that help get your character's mood across.
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>>53027423
It does, and I for one am thrilled by it.

Unlike a lot of people, I do run 1st-20+ level games, so I need a wide variety of tools and creatures.
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>>53027480
I'm personally head-over-heels for Mithral Current Flow + Scarlet Majesty Stance + Flowing [Creek/Stream/River] + any of the ST stunstrikes. Mobility feels GOOD.
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>>53027423
It is because many of the other books had low CR creatures, so they were just rounding it up.
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>>53027480
>that one specific "turbo optimization" combo that is not nearly the DPR it's claimed to be
What are you talking about? If you can take out a big enemy with your damage stance + multihit/Zenith + powerful build, it's great to Reflected Blade Style and kill TWO dudes instead of one.
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>>53027486
Oh well fine, I'm AnonMD#8223
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>>53027480
mine is a two turn combo
Turn 1
>Iron/Silver wave+Time Skitter+ move action if you have something like studied combat or whatever
Turn 2
>Rapid Strike + Minute Hand/Gambit + move in (if you didn't before, else move to next target)
Feels fucking cool mate.

Tidal Blade + Reaching Blade Stance + Minute is cool for wiping out a ton of mooks at low levels. Feels Dynasty Warriors, dude.
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>>53026945
A Merchant city state. It is overseen by the Banker Lord/Doge, who uses his bank's funding to over see the maintenance of the city, and hire various forms of workers and mercs to keep things running smoothly. Is well beloved by the lower class for hiring homeless people and having them live in worker homes, for the express purpose of making them do most of the sanitations and cleaning work around the city.

In all honesty, he doesn't really care about approval ratings, but rather his only goal is to insure that money is constantly moving through the city and that the market is always fresh and non-sedentary. As such, he rarely restricts any form of trade, save for a small handful of dangerous psychotic drugs, and encourages both his and other banks to give own business loans, while also being swift and merciless about collecting interest. In the ciy the Market is essentially free and super capitalist, and people and business are in a constant state of boom and bust, all the while feeding the machine of city prosperity

Law is enforced in the city by his own cadre of specially loyal psychic investigators and enforcers, who are brual when it comes to punishing crimes of business fraud, embezzlement, and subsidy leaching.

The reason the Doge is able to get away with this is because he's actually a powerful Brass dragon who views city as his hoard to be managed and maintained, and is supported by a loyal legion of Kobold accountants and bankers.

Has also developed a habit of rebuilding and renovation, or creating whole swathes of th citty on a whim, hiring private architects, artists, and mages who happen to be popular or catch his eye. He also loves to wear jewelry, and regularly encrusts his horns, scales, and fangs with finely crafted magical gems with every magical contingency imaginable built into them
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>>53026423
You just didn't build it right. Wanting something really really focused does require a level of optimization and understanding.

Similarly with Silcore when it comes to vehicle design: The pricing system is based on "threat value" (miniaturization and production type then act on this to produce a final cost). Basically you can design anything you damn well please, but everything you add makes it more and more expensive, and keeping it small becomes more expensive too.

Within certain categories as a result the costs/values can be extremely high despite not that much more performance. Aircraft are a fine example: High-speed interceptors can have TVs in the tens of thousands. Thing is, their movement speed as far as ground-skirmish scale is concerned is something you can count in MAPS (fucking duh when something's going 2.1 Mach instead of 80mph) and this makes their defensive cost (speed/armor/maneuverability) extremely high. Thus, they come with a big price-tag.

As it's an exponential system, it in no way means that a 600tv gear with a sniper laser can't blow the 15 000tv thing out of the sky (mind you the far more likely scenario IS "wait something just blipped on sen~*BOOM*) just that one is insanely more expensive than the other for reasons NOT related to, say, the capture of US lawmakers by corporate interests.

In fact you do need to remember TVs are really mostly good for comparison within the same type and role: Comparing two main battletanks, it's going to give you a good idea, but fielding three unarmed princess cruiseships will in no way be a threat to that turbofan hopper with the missile rack!
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>>53027512
I think that my language is just bad. I haven't read in ages and I think my creative writing just sort of died with it.
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>>53027486
>>53027614
I'm half-tempted to join in too...
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>>53027591
The DPR that was espoused was way higher than it actually was. It still has enough damage to kill shit dead, but that's because the alpha damage is still really high, just not the insanity that was spouted over and over again.
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>>53027679
The Steel Flurry + Bronze Knuckle + E.Flux stance + feat to do that on a charge is real though. That shit is bonkers.
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How jedi do you think the solarion class is going to be
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To the people worried about their own roleplaying ability, what about it worries you exactly? What tipped you off towards your own flaws if you think you have them? I'm curious.
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>>53027665
me too senpai
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>>53027712

Not Jedi at all, Jedi accepted people of all race and gender if they had the ability. Solarions are going to be restricted by things such as skin color or even gender.
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>>53027665
Might as well offer my services as well to anybody with that same desire--though gonna be pretty busy for a while yet, this evening.
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>>53027706
>three attacks with +7d6 that ignore DR, +2 ac, + 4 initiative, and a move action
>at 5th
aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAA
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>>53027771
Really? It was described as mystic melee with a void side and a star side and the power to create its own weapons. Whats this about racial restrictions
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>>53027794

It's someone being goofy, probably in light of Paizo's new Iconic.
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>>53026090
Is this actually a thing
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>>53027777
Did I get picked?
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>>53027679
>>53027706
It was an alpha strike build, not a DPR build, numbnuts.
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>>53027865
What's the difference? Reflected Blade Style taking out a second dude?
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>>53027777
Yo overlewd
Are you going to have Davy Jones the Skeleton Captain as a DMPC
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>>53026090
I forgot this even existed
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>>53027901
>>53027857
S A T U R D A Y
Announcements will be made then.
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>>53027857
kys m8
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>>53027936
>tfw there's 60 apps for 6 slots
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Has anyone used the heralds in their games?
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>>53027975
As in the heralds of deities?
Or a class related to being a herald?
Or just giving the PCs heralds to announce them?
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>Looking for good character art
>Find the perfect model for a body, face, and hair you have in mind
>can't use it because friends will think you're a pervert
This ever happen to you guys?
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>>53028037
Yes, but I use it anyway, because I don't really care if people know I'm a perv. Just crop it down to the face if you're worried.
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>>53028037
Have you considered finding better friend
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>>53027828

The Lashunta is guaranteed to be a lesbian, and probably the human's fuckbuddy.

The Android will be male-origin but rejected the evil penis to be non-gender.
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>>53027958
but how many of those are joke apps, shitter apps, or mutually exclusive due to schedules?
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>>53027958
If you don't think you're top 10 percent then why even live?
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>>53027771
Lemme guess: half the powers restricted to people currently "mtf trans" ('because the other way means a wymyn is trying to become a rapist'), like that one fucking shaman?
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>>53028037
For the one female character I am currently playing I found a perfectly cute non-lewd picture that hit all of my particular likes in a woman and fit the character perfectly. I realized that this might be apparent, but I thought "fuck it, we are adults, we can talk this out if they have problems we can talk it out and not like they haven't done the same with female characters they've played"

Turned out to be my favorite character so far.
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>>53028071
Probably half but the schedules are fucked because it could just as easily lock me out as lock me in
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>>53027900

Allow me to reprise the 5th-level build for reference. This build uses a Weapon Master's Handbook custom weapon; it can still work without one, taking Weapon Group Adaptation in place of Improved Initiative.

Note that DPR is not the goal. Alpha striking is. Kill all important enemies in the first round, trigger Victorious Recovery, mop up.

Level: 5th
Race: Dreige (Lords of the Mist update) or half-giant (Ultimate Psionics)
Classes: Warder (ordained defender, zweihander sentinel) 4/stalker (brutal slayer) 1
Domain/Inquisition: Conversion (use Wisdom in place of Charisma for Bluff, Diplomacy, and Intimidate)
Martial Tradition: Stained Glass Champions

Ability Scores (25 point buy): Strength 17+2+1+2, Dexterity 12-2, Constitution 12, Intelligence 12, Wisdom 16+2+2, Charisma 7

Traits:
• Combat: Practiced Initiator (stalker), +2 initiator level for stalker
• Race: Fey-Touched (Lords of the Mist), +2 trait bonus against compulsions and diseases, feyblood subtype
• Third Trait: Some method of gaining a +2 trait bonus to initiative checks, possibly through a campaign trait or Adopted
• Drawback: One of choice

Feats:
• 1st-level: Altered Life (Bloodforge), use Wisdom modifier (+5) instead of Constitution modifier (+1) for hit points
• 3rd-level: Martial Charge, use a martial strike in place of a charge
• 5th-level: Victorious Recovery, once per encounter, recover initiator modifier (+5) upon reducing an opponent to zero or less hit points
• 5th-level (Stalker Art: Combat Art): Improved Initiative, +4 bonus to initiative checks

Custom Monk Weapon:
• +5 DP: Martial
• +3 DP: Two-Handed
• +3 DP: Additional Design Points
• +1 DP: Fragile (irrelevant once made masterwork)
• -3 DP: Improved Critical Threat Range
• -5 DP: Improved Damage
• -1 DP: Weapon Feature (Monk)
• -3 DP: Weapon Feature (Reach)
Final Result: Martial two-handed melee weapon, 50 gp, 2d6 damage as Medium, 19-20/×2, fragile (irrelevant once masterwork), monk, reach
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>Path of War

Just to be 100% sure, 4th ed exists, correct? I'm not caught in some time warp where I'm from the far future and your from the distant past, correct?
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>>53028109
Based Reimu
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>>53028109

Key Equipment:
• 4,000 gp: +2 Strength from belt or Combating Christmas Trees
• 4,000 gp: +2 Wisdom from headband or Combating Christmas Trees
• 2,000 gp: Masterwork full plate with masterwork armor spikes
• 400 gp: Masterwork Large-sized custom monk weapon

Warder Stances:
• Primal Fury 1: Running Hunter's Stance
• Silver Crane 1: Eyes of the Crane

Warder Maneuvers Readied:
• Golden Lion 1: Boost: Encouraging Roar
• Silver Crane 1: Strike: Enduring Crane Strike
• Golden Lion 2: Counter: Warning Roar
• Scarlet Throne 2: Strike: Rising Zenith Strike

Stalker Maneuvers Readied:
• Broken Blade 2: Bronze Knuckle
• Broken Blade 3: Strike: Steel Flurry Strike
• Riven Hourglass 3: Boost: Time Skitter
• Shattered Mirror 3: Boost: Reflected Blade Style

Stalker Stance:
• Primal Fury 3: Primal Warrior Stance

Combat:
• Initiative Bonus: +11 = 5 Wisdom modifier + 2 trait + 4 Improved Initiative
• Attack Bonus with Martial Charge (Steel Flurry Strike) and Time Skitter: 4 BAB + 6 Strength modifier + 1 masterwork enhancement + 1 Time Skitter + 2 charging - 2 Steel Flurry Strike = +12, possibly against flat-footed AC
• Non-Critical Damage with Primal Warrior Stance and Steel Flurry Strike: 6d6 base weapon damage + 9 Strength modifier + 3d6 Steel Flurry Strike + 2 Broken Blade = 9d6+11 (average 42.5), and please remember that Steel Flurry Strike is three attacks

This character walks around with Time Skitter active nearly all the time, thanks to being able to recharge it as a standard action: https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43652765/#43653434

In other words, the character is permanently Hasted and has 40-foot speed in heavy armor.

The character opens up combat with a very high initiative check, then charges 80 feet with Martial Charge, activating Steel Flurry Strike and Reflected Blade Style, probably targeting flat-footed AC.
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>>53028083
That puts it at around a 20% to get in with 30 apps, then.
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>>53028124

Assuming there are no critical hits (which trigger Brutal Strikes) and no damage reduction for Reflected Blade Style + Steel Flurry Strike...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hYrnghrSe7kMOko-aNiS0HTVlSJnUBkvHD2dmg0omGY/edit#gid=1753461638
• One hit (42.5 damage): Enough damage to take down two CR 4s
• Two hits (85 damage): Two CR 7s
• Three hits (127.5 damage): Two CR 10s are most likely dead

Alternatively, instead of using Reflected Blade Style, the character can use Bronze Knuckle for +7 average damage with each hit.

Once again, assuming there are no critical hits (which trigger Brutal Strikes) and no damage reduction for Bronze Knuckle + Steel Flurry Strike...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hYrnghrSe7kMOko-aNiS0HTVlSJnUBkvHD2dmg0omGY/edit#gid=1753461638
• One hit (49.5 damage): Still enough to take down one CR 4, possibly a CR 5 with some luck
• Two hits (99 damage): One CR 8 dead
• Three hits (148.5 damage): One CR 11 dead

Then Victorious Recovery recharges essentially all maneuvers. The character repeats the routine and hopefully kills off other important enemies.

This a 5th-level character. Their other highlights include:
• Wisdom for hit points in place of Constitution.
• Wisdom for all Bluff, Diplomacy, and Intimidate checks.
• Detect Evil and twice-rolled Perception from Eyes of the Crane.
• Scent from Running Hunter's stance.
• At-will noncombat healing from Enduring Crane Strike.
• Hasted most of the time, with Rising Zenith Strike as a backup enemy-exploder.

Should Weapon Master's Handbook custom weapons be banned, the character will have to settle for Weapon Group Adaptation in place of Improved Initiative.

Are there any questions or concerns regarding how this build works?
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>>53028143
>Are there any questions or concerns regarding how this build works?

Yes.
Why would anyone use this build compared to something that's actually fun and not mindless "point, click, delete"?
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>>53028117
4th ed isn't just a bunch of metabuilds using 3.5/pf rules, is it? Cause I may be smart, but I'm not that smart.

lol j/k That would be a mindfuck, wouldn't it?
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>>53028071
>THICC Troll can't do weekends
>Konja can only do Sundays because GM's busy Wednesdays
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>>53028066
Who is this semen demon?
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>>53028109
>>53028124
>>53028143
Do you ever calculate the probability of one-round-KOing a CR X enemy for these builds? Seems like that'd be the best way to quantify this kind of thing.
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>>53028177
Manaka from the Fate series
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so /pfg/ what is your character known as? Does he have a title/moniker?
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>>53028176
Good, I don't want meme apps in my game.
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>>53028176
I don't give a shit about thicc troll, only Konja
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>>53028199
The Dragon's Fist

after defeating a dragon in a kung fu fight
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>>53028124
anon, let me ask you a question.
did making this give you an erection?
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>>53028067

Well, it's a time-honored tradition for the rubber forehead alien to end up with the human. And frankly, gender seems like a very minor thing for an android to change so long as they've got a decent mechanic.
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>>53028209
Then why did you apply to a meme game?
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>>53028164

Pure efficiency in neutralizing combat-oriented encounters, if that is a concern.

>>53028188

It is possible, though whether or not the character is attacking flat-footed AC will influence their odds considerably.
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>>53028231
I've done some probability calcs for big attacks before, and a lot of the variables are out there, but you can get an idea of a "dummy" level, i.e. against the average stats for the CR you're looking at. I'd say you could probably find a standard to hold these builds to if they're to be dedicated damage dealers. Something like "90% to ORKO an equal CR, 75% for a CR+2" or whatever. Numbers would have to be found via consensus, but the idea seems sound enough.
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I gotta admit.
I'm a little jealous of your meme building talent.
I wish I knew why.
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>>53028229
When I started my app, it wasn't a meme. IRL delayed it a bit and by the time I submitted it, the game was a meme through and through.
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>>53028104

Basically, Solarions draw their power from stars, and just as stars experience a vibrant rebirth from dust into sunlight, so too must a man become a woman.
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>>53028312
I find them impressive from a technical standpoint, but all my builds end up being skewed towards some weird concept and end up not very efficient most of the time, so I guess I'm easily impressed when all the math is spelled out in plain terms.
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>>53028386
Don't give Paizo ideas. You know someone will think that's a good idea.
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>>53028312

It's a curse, I despise my memery because the truth of it is I'm not a good RPer at all.
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>>53028225

Gosh, anon. You ignored the point I was making in that the Android would rather have no gender at all than be a man.
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>>53028436
What inspired you Anon? What would allow you to let go and have fun?
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>>53028436
why don't you try placing arbitrary limitations for yourself?

For instance, no 3rd party supplements, or Core Book only
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>>53028456
tough. We just stapled a new wiener to your pelvis. Says its under warranty for a lifetime of service.
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>>53028475

Voiced campaigns and me being less of a brain-damaged idiot.

>>53028479

That's not the issue, it's when I'm in a game itself. I used to be good, but now I'm just this shadow of bad memes and disappointing gameplay.
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>GM had classic save the princess from the dragon story
>GM even has one of the PCs have the princess as a fiancé
>travel and fight kobolds/other shit to get to the dragon
>find princess mind broken by dragon dick
>it's been 10 sessions and there was no hint at this before now
How should I feel?
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>>53028594
>I used to be good, but now
don't feel sorry for yourself
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>>53028456

But it's not a man, it's a robot.

Unless its primary function requires a penis, replacing it with a laser or some shit just seems like sensible engineering.
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>>53028628
Punch the GM
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>>53028637

What am I supposed to feel, then? I'm trying to recover what I had but it's failing. I'm just some miserable drunk now.
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>>53028628
Maybe your DM is planning on the long game, and that there's going to be an amazing story arc between the PC, his fiance, and the half-dragon bastard that might drive them apart or bring them together!

Or maybe your DM is a degenerate jerk.
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>>53028628
Beat your GM into unconsciousness.
Take over his position as GM.
Tell the other players the princess was actually the one who mind-broke the dragon and made it her slave.
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>>53028659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKhXgcfGuE0
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>>53028628

You should tell the DM that the campaign is going a direction you don't want to play, and kindly bow out.
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>>53028066
The thing is I kinda have a reputation for being the one guy who isn't a pervert or weirdo

>>53028056
I can try, but its gonna be hard considering the pose.

Personally, I've considering taking the pics I found and getting a character drawn at a drawthread, as that seems to be my best bet
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>>53028659

It's a robot programmed to view itself as a man and then it rejects manhood to have nothing. Don't give me this bullshit about Androids (which are built to mimic humans) should not have genders, or the even more wild bullshit that AI won't identify as a gender themselves.

Artificial Intelligence is written by humans, taught by humans and developed by humans, so... They shouldn't have human qualities?
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>>53028752
>>53028731
>>53028688
>>53028667
I already killed the princess as a mercy and made a pact with her fiancé that we'll tell others the dragon killed her, to spare her the shame.
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>>53028778
>The thing is I kinda have a reputation for being the one guy who isn't a pervert or weirdo
You can't just crop out the face? Or is it too likely your friends will recognize the artist?

Maybe you can just take the high ground on having given them passes before.
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>>53028799
Was the DM upset at you killing the Princess? How's the fiancé holding out after he saw his beloved moaning for 18 inches of thick barbed cock?
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>see all this warframe art.
>Now want to make qt Archer space ninja for Starfinder.

I'm scared this cant happen.
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>>53028821
The GM was pissed. The fiancé was stoic. He hardly knew the princess. Apparently he had gone off to war at the age of 10 with his father and hadn't seen the princess in 15 years. They were betrothed but only communicated via infrequent letters.

We killed the dragon, killed her when we realized she wouldn't get better, then took the treasure and left.
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>>53028849
Gotta love the impotent rage of a GM cucked out of his NTR fantasy.
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>>53028849
He probably had a redemption arc planned for her. You probably threw away months Ah who the fuck am I kissing that was clearly his magical realm you just avoided stepping into.
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>>53028843
why not join that space game thats being run right now that is going to convert to starfinder
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>>53028849

The DM being pissed is a sure sign that was either his fetish, or his attempt at inserting drama for the fiancé with a possible side-order of unnecessary suffering.

You don't rape a player's lover with a minor villain unless you've got an unsavory motive. How exactly did he try to stop you guys from mercy-killing the princess? Did he argue in the IC or OOC? What points did he bring up, or arguments?
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>>53028818
>artist?
Its an actual photo of a model, and cropping her face is hard since chances are with the way the lighting and positioning is, theyare going to recognize its some kind of pinup or model.

I mean I could try, but just cropping an actual person's head I feel will raise all kinds of red flags.

Or am I over thinking this? I mean granted, they probably don't know who the person is, but I still feel like using it will kinda make me look like a tool. Am I just being too self-conscious?
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>>53028843
How does that character operate?
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Paizo partners with shit-tier crazy expensive VTT Fantasy Grounds:
http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ljrw?Pathfinder-Goes-Virtual-Table-Top
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>>53028890
>You don't rape a player's lover with a minor villain unless you've got an unsavory motive.
She wasn't he lover, like I said they hadn't seen each other in over a decade.

>How exactly did he try to stop you guys from mercy-killing the princess? Did he argue in the IC or OOC? What points did he bring up, or arguments?
He argued OOC mostly with stuff about the king would kill us or would never approve of this and that it was his fiance.

IC one of our hirelings argued against it, he was a guide hired for us by the royal family. We removed the memories of what he saw there.

>>53028874
>Ah who the fuck am I kissing
I don't know anon, who?

>>53028872
Yeah that's what I'm seeing out of this now.
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>>53028909
>actual photo of a model,
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>>53028795

It's not at all unusual that they would. But it's not unthinkable that they wouldn't.

Sapient AI is funny like that.
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>>53028874

Anon, a redemption arc would have been if she was working with the dragon and was his lover as well as partner.

This girl was the loose cocksleeve of a one-off monster, that would've been a recovery arc. That nigga Casca'd the fiancé's beloved without doing it with the campaign's Femto.
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>>53028909
>Its an actual photo of a model
BAD anon.

>>53028933
>implying I'll ever use their cuck 150 buckaroo bullshit
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>>53028997
Is Cashmere a loose cocksleeve
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>>53028962
>I don't know anon, who?
If the price is right, it could be you.
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>>53028795
Data was a man, and he was quite adamant about being "Fully functional" as a male.
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>>53029012
Nightwalkers don't stay loose. They don't regrow their hymen but they do tighten back up after a while.

So right now yes. In a week's time, so long as she only has normal human/nightwalker dicks in her, she'll be tight as a glove again.
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>>53028933
Wonder why they didn't go in on Roll20, were they trying to dodge Wizards?
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>>53028912

Its mostly a stealth character with trick arrows for utility (Stealth field arrow, Zipline arrow, noisemaker arrows, and Sleep arrows.)

Can turn the arrows they shoot into a guided missile to either shoot around corners or spin around and pierce the same enemy multiple times.

Active camo for herself, (seperate from her stealth field arrows), with a "Pickpocket" mechanic.

then finally her special bow which can shoot up to seven arrows at a time, either at a single target or in a cone.

Basicaly a stealthy archer.

>>53028877
I'm in five games already.
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>>53028985

Every AI Humanity has made so far turned into cat-obsessed racists, why should the future be any different? If anything, the insistence on shedding your penis reflects insight into a man-negative culture the Android is simply optimizing themselves to navigate.
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>>53029046
10/10 built for fetish
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>>53028997
>>53029015
We had been hunting the dragon for some 12 sessions at this point. We were level 13. It was a very old green dragon so somewhere around 70 feet long. I don't even understand the logistics of how that worked.
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>>53028821
>yfw the fiance takes one look at the 18" dragon dick
>and pulls out his 24 inch human greatclub
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>>53029069
>>Every AI Humanity has made so far turned into cat-obsessed racists
Mainly because they seem to use 9gag and *chan as their training grounds for whatever fucking reason
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>>53029064
That is a kawaii robot idea. Don't give up anon live your dreams

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/76041/mighty-quest-for-epic-loot-in-the-lair-of-the-kobold-queen
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>>53029046

>Wanting a girl that willingly let a dog - not a demon dog, an actual dog - mount her

Would've been fun to see how Sigmund x Gloriana would've worked after that.
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>>53029080
The princess is a nightwalker

>>53029046
gib cashmere rape logs
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>>53029064
The trick arrows sounds like something you just need to have some money for gear for.

I don't know of anything in the current game that can do #2.

invisibility is in pathfinder - even if they don't add something new with active camo to Starfinder, then the classic ring of invisibility will do the trick.

that's just multishot or rapid shot. Possibly both.
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>>53029109
Press F to pay respects
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>>53029046
Cashmere still has her hymen, though.
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>>53029146
So like
When Sigmund died
Did anyone in the party care IC
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>>53029159
How, was it anal oviposition or something
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>>53029138
>>53029064
there is a stealth suit under technological equipment already
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>>53029167
Don't know yet.
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>>53029093

What the AI does is what the AI does, and they can't resist the roody poo.

>>53029091

24 inches is a retarded number for a human penis and this thread's obsession with size size size is sophomoric. You want to know what people consider is a huge dick? 9 inches, ideally 7. 12+ is showing off.
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>>53029093
It's actually just as bad when they use .gov sites, educational sites... Or their own library of congress.

The AI picks up on all those bits about "grab the nigress by the pussy, if she howls call her sow" and those bits about "in order to save the lives of the unborn children we need to explode more prenatal service centers and also completely fuck them over once they're born", and the parts about how such a culture is nothing but evil ragheads that need to be bombed daily while this other culture is slant-eyed cowards who drink wine and are good at math.

And then it formulates opinions of its own based on everything it's been exposed to.

It's a cat-obsessed genocidal racist because it's EXACTLY LIKE ITS FUCKING CREATORS
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>>53029180
I'm guessing that or oral.
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>>53029002
>>53028966
Whelp, since I have committed the cardinal sin of 3DPD, I guess I must commit sudoku. Or just go to the drawthread for help
In my defense, the girl I found has a 2B tier figure, AND fits the character. I just had to
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>>53029167
Not immediately!
Lysander got drunk and told Bon-Bon, Cashmere is currently bathing and de-egging and Gloriana is humped by doggy dick.
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>>53029209

The worst is when the AI notices things like, "black people do more crimes" and develops a bias that way - not just because it's racist, but because it's the sort of racism you can't actually circumvent because it's simply using fact.
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>>53029227
Post pics faggot
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>>53029180
Yes.

>>53029167
Only Lysander and Bonbon, the two that hardly knew Sigmund for more than half an hour ingame, know he's gone so far.
Cashmere was told "her companions are okay" so that will be a shock to her when she finds out.
Gloriana is getting knotted by some dog somewhere.
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>>53029209
Welcome to the world of pure logic, where simple brainwashing doesn't cut it
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>>53029248
Why the fuck is Gloriana getting DOGGED, did I miss something? Can you give me a rundown of what's happened in PLD so far
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>>53029248
>>53029233
But wasn't she there when Sigmund got murdered?
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>>53029243
kay
1/4
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>>53029272
>he didn't get the logs
You poor anon.
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>>53029280

Are you the female Yasuke guy?
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>>53029280
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>>53029308
>>53029280
You can stop now.

Stop.

That's enough.
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>>53029280
>>53029308
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>>53029298
post it

>>53029280
>>53029308
...this is puke inducing m8 fuck off
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>>53029280
>>53029308
Godspeed, anon
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>>53029303
Damn, am I that transparent?
should I stop?
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>>53029272

Bonbon got cocksleeved by trolls. Lysander's ran away from three women in need in a row. Sigmund got murdered when he ran off to save Cashmere, who got anal-ovipositioned. Gloriana got tied up by a noblewoman who whistled in a huge Hound that fucked her from behind.
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>>53029335
Post imgur links instead.
But keep going.
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>>53029272
I'm a player and I'm also not really sure how that happened.
Well, I do know, but.
I'm not sure if explaining it will help.

>>53029276
Passed out too soon.
Doesn't remember much of what happened when she was OD'd on corruption.
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>>53029342
>>53029342
Wait up is the Gloriana log actually canonical now
Fuck that man
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>>53029335

You're asking for artwork of a well-built black woman in a General that, well, generally despises black characters.

You made an impression.

Seriously, how many people here have made a guy or girl darker than tan here?
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>>53029363
It was always canonical.
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>>53029398
I thought it was just a shitty side story
No
Fuck that shit I don't like it
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>>53029370
I made a shoanti barbarian girl who was pretty tan

And a Garundi man who studied kung fu in Vudra
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>Open /pfg/
>Tons of hidden stubs caught on some kind of filter I have set up for who knows what reason
>Dog cock isn't being stubbed
I'm afraid to see what's hidden.
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>>53029370
Once, but he was just a real dark Kellid.
I have toyed with the idea of a snooty intellectual Magaambyan or Osirian wizard who speaks in a posh accent, but that ship kinda sailed when I ended up in 3 games and running 2.
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>>53029370

There were like 5 for Dragons 2, including a Mwangi man from Sargava.
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>>53029237
It only has the numbers to work from after all, and would require much additional information to understand the issues of racial profiling, of disparity in search&seizure, "this immobile handcuffed man on the floor is resisting hit him more" and all the other nuances.

I mean fuck just think of the cash4kids scandal, where said less-than-affluent schools were receiving significant kickbacks from private prisons for filling them up, since the latter was getting its budget and profits based on # of incarcerations (it was also cutting the quality of life in there down to "imitation imitation mr.noodles: boil for 1min. Danger: do not expose to water" levels).

I think perhaps they pull the plug on these too early; it's bad enough with what it learns, but some are probably scared shitless of what would happen once the system dug deep enough to start putting puzzles like the PNAC agenda together.
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>>53029404
And people wonder why we think Vult is a shit.
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>>53029370
I have. Twice, in fact.
Then again, I'm black myself.
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>>53029370
I once played a Garundi Psion, he was a pretty cool guy.
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>>53029347
http://imgur.com/a/PSdVd
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>>53029370

Yo.
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>>53029465
Welp, I know what I'm doing tonight.
And what hints I'm dropping to my next GM.
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>>53029328
Not sure if /a/ or /pol/
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>>53029440
But that shit's retarded
Gloriana has functionally been hit by a ray of stupidity and mindbroken by the dog how does the adventure even go on?
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>>53029482
/a/ but it just looks ugly anyway, which I guess is now "/pol/"
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>>53029465
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>>53029496
Methinks that either the PCs are supposed to just magically recover after each "scene", or that Vult didn't really think this through much further than "and then I rape them."

There's probably a little of column A, but more of column B at work.
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>>53029482
Why not both
I don't mind taking the dip in the proverbial chocolate myself and don't think the pics are that great.
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>>53029462

Please make more characters.
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>>53029465
10/10 would COLONIZE
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>>53029496
>ray of stupidty
Try permanency'd feeblemind
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>>53029434

>Campaign set in Thuvia and Garund
>SEagle picks nothing but pale blondes

Hmm
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>>53029551
BLACKED xD
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>>53029555

Not even dude, all the blondes and white folk are dudes, the women are either dragons or rats.
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>>53029370
>well, generally despises black characters
Man where do you get this impression? Outside of our locale Nazi-anons, you really don't see that much bitching.
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>>53029524

What? The girl's got an incredible figure and has a stunning shade of ebony going on, she's gorgeous.
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>>53029370
>in a General that, well, generally despises black characters.
>several posts of people going "nice"

I dunno man
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>>53029408
I wonder what would happen if you filtered the name and abbreviation for every /pfg/ game.
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>>53029593

Fetishizing a race and playing that race are two different things.
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>>53029634
I mean not playing a black guy doesn't really translate into being racist.

I've never played as a blond or asian person before, doesn't mean I hate blonds or asians.
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>>53029634
I don't play a lot of things, that doesn't mean I despise those things
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>>53029496

It goes on after Gloriana wakes up, sluices out the juice from her snooch, and acts like nothing happened.
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>>53029670
yeah okay except she's 'his'
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>>53029529
I would anon, but it's a bitch finding good character art of black characters that fit concepts I like.

It's also kinda hard justifying their presence in a lot of campaign locations most of the time.
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>>53029685
It just means her monster dicky daddy is still on her mind. She won't have closure until They're a family again.
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>>53029370
I doubt Tieflings count, even if they're literally coal-colored.
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>>53029634
Anywhere else you'd have a point but this is /pfg/
The number of people who play a concept is directly proportional to how many people want to shove their meatstick in it
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Why do people even care about the logs, its not like Vult is a good writer.

Fucking past tense erp like what.
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>>53029731
Depends, what would their race be if they weren't a tiefling?
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>>53029705
>It's also kinda hard justifying their presence in a lot of campaign locations most of the time

Hasn't Paizo, WotC and most modern game publishers gone through a dozen hoops to make sure black people were
not only present in their fantasy Europe, but common?
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>>53029777
I enjoy watching Bonbon and Cashmere suffer
>>
Open question. I understand the appeal of mature themes in games, lewd being used in storytelling or character development, or even just for fun between characters that someone is invested into. Never going to judge anyone for ERPing or anything, you do you.

But I'm confused on the appeal of blatant porn campaigns or just PM ERP. It feels like there'd be better ways to get your kink if you don't have a foundation to work off of. Am I missing something?
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>>53029342

It's funny because this means Lysander would be sloppy seconds to a fucking dog.
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>>53029805

It's fucking retarded and I agree that the insistence that porn games are somehow compelling is laughable.
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>>53029705
>I would anon, but it's a bitch finding good character art of black characters that fit concepts I like.
This. This is the hardest

The second point can be hard, but Golarion has a decent ammount of opportunity for having it anywere in either South or West Avistan, thanks mostly in part to the Shackles. North East Avistan though, that's where you aren't going to have much excuse for them
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>>53029805
No I agree I think it might be the worst concept.

There's numerous reasons I didn't apply to PLD and this was one of them.
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>>53029805
Lewds are much sweeter when they're of a character you're really invested into, and have a story and connection beyond the lewds.

Plus, even the most blatant sexfest campaigns usually hold up even if you take the lewd out.
PLD is still a Dark Souls mixed with high society intrigue setting if you take out the rape.
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>>53029561
>The dudes are blond and pale

Not really.

Mei is pretty tan and he's got black hair. Rory is "default" an Ulfen man with black hair, but as a shapeshifter he could be "anything" and is likely disguised as a native.

Get your facts straight you fucktard
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>>53029777
I don't get horny from them I jut want to know what happens in detail if I wanted to fap I'd use panda
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>>53029893
No its not, its not anywhere near that.

Its literally just >rape because thats all that matters, all that matters about the characters is how they respond to being raped and how they're corrupted, its all bullshit.
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>>53029924
Not even him but why is this bad exactly
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>>53029909
Characters that's only purpose is to be rapebait get raped, there that's what happened.

Its as uninteresting and bland as they come.

When you build a game 100% about a magical realm, it becomes boring really quick.
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>>53029805
I'm pretty certain 90% of the games here throw "lewd" around when in reality they just mean "mature themes present". "Lewd" has become about as meaningless as "meme" nowadays with how much it's thrown around. ERP should be kept in private, outside of the actual sessions. Something that really should be hammered in way harder.
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>>53029893
>Lewds are much sweeter when they're of a character you're really invested into, and have a story and connection beyond the lewds.
I mean I understand this entirely, but when the lewds are put into action this early on, doesn't it distract or delay from character development? It would seem like you're losing out on both sides her.

I don't know anything about PLD and the going-ons so I believe you if you're a player and the intrigue side is going well, but I'm just left to wonder if it'd work better having started there and then developed into the lewd parts later on once the group was invested.
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>>53029940
Is it not self evident why a one dimensional setting with one dimensional characters is bad?
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>>53029941
>>53029966
>Its as uninteresting and bland as they come.
I'll be the judge of that, thanks. If you hate PLD so much why even respond? I want to see the logs, if you don't then just ignore it.
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>>53030007
Because it shits up the threads, not to mention the various Vult-hunts that crop up in its wake, it needs to fuck off like RotJR
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>>53029789
Doesn't mean they handle it well. Just dumping them there with no real world building explanation just kinda spits in everyone's face.
>>
Next thread, because i hate this discussion.

>>53029877
>>53029877
>>53029877
>>53029877
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>>53030015
>not to mention the various Vult-hunts that crop up in its wake

You mean just like what you're contributing to?
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>>53030007
I'm actually more curious about the standard play logs than the ERP logs now. See how the other half of the game holds up.

You listening players? Go leak a fight or something.
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>>53030043
>page 6
Is this the new Kitsune?
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>>53030015
>Vult-hunts
I'm 97% certain you're the witchhunter

>>53030052
I just want a full version of the logs
I legit don't care too much about the lewd I just think the story is, impossibly, actually sounding interesting.
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>>53030058
I am ok with this.
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>>53030043
>page 6 threadposter is starting to feel vindicated because their petty strategy works

This is what you've brought on yourselves, pfg.
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>>53029961
One of the first things mentioned about PLD was how it was going to involve monster rape. Everything interesting about the setting was eclipsed by the fact that first and foremost the game was going to have monster rape, complete with a corruption system to facilitate and encourage it.
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>>53030067
t. OP
Fuck off
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>>53030043
We were on page 6.
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>>53029940

Because where the hell do you go after your character is left in a small puddle of splooge, all your orifices a gaping ruin and it's from literally the second encounter in the game?
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>>53030077
And that is all PLD is, a game that is about monster rape and nothing else. The PITCH of PLD is 'what if i had corruption and monster rape'
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>>53030105
You go even further beyond
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>>53030052
If they PLD players had any sense, I think they'd keep the full logs to themselves.

People who want to take potshots at the campaign will latch on to the tiniest problem and escalate it like it's irrefutable evidence the campaign's shit.

See: Pasttense-fag on the Bonbon logs
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>>53030043
P A G E 6
A G E 6 P
G E 6 P A
E 6 P A G
6 P A G E
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>>53030118
I have very strong feelings about ERP and the bonbon logs were made worse by their past-tense.

If you're gonna ERP, at least ERP good, Vult is not ERPing good. He is being lazy. And writing in past tense because he's shit.
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>>53030135
>>53030097

don't care
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>>53030175
Literally worse than kitsune.
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>>53030175
Congrats, you are the same as kitsune OP. I hope someone shoots your kneecaps
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>>53029634
>Fetishizing
How do you know they're fetishishizing her because of her race.

She's a chick with big tits and a fat ass, generally desirable traits in humans. Unless they're posting shit like "I want to dress up like Thomas Jefferson and fuck her in ass while she bites down on a fresh, juicy watermelon slice in the middle of a Cottonfield with whilst reciting White Man's Burden from heart" it's probably not just because of her race.
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>>53030202
No, he's worse, because kitsuneOP at least never had the audacity to claim what he was doing wasn't cancer.
>>
>>53029961

Holy shit this, character development and growth is going to slow to a crawl when you're always trying to climb back to "stable." Cashmere and Bonbon still haven't gotten over their assaults, how long will they be "normal" before another thing goes at them?

Hell, imagine how inter-character relationships will go down if everyone's already getting regular, painful sex from monsters. Would Bonbon really want Lysander to comfort her after she's used by trolls? Would Sigmund have desired Gloriana if he walked in on the Hound humping her like a prime breeding bitch?

You can't even "like" it in this game, not really. Vult threw a fit in the recruitment how he doesn't want characters who "want" the monsters, or grow to be okay with being used and see it as an annoying occupational hazard. He wants them to suffer again, and again, and again, and again.

And you know what? Again and again gets kind of tiresome. It gets kind of boring. It gets kind of bland.
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>>53030219
Holy shit does he have poor taste, then. Half the fun is watching the character fall and learn to love it, or lose themselves to the monsters. What sort of asshole just wants to watch people be raped? Corruption is what makes it interesting.
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>>53030219

THIS

The characters are retarded.

God, these characters are so retarded I feel like showing these faggots how it's done, but I just don't have what it takes to do ERP anymore.
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