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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Small Races Edition:

What small races have you played and how do you make them effective?

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>>53007340
Old Thread: >>52996862
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Posting again for advice

This recently happened to me in a campaign I'm in:
>finally got a meeting with the governor
>we've been trying to get an audience for two sessions now
>did some business for a local bureaucrat to get him to sponsor us for a meeting
>the meeting went well
>convinced him to lend us aid
>we were supposed to head out with a force to investigate weird shit in the hills
>weird shit mainly including random famers showing up with strange injuries and no memory
>as we were leaving we head into the market to get supplies
>GM tells me to stop for a moment
>tells me that some window, two birds, ivy, and a stoop form a perfect representation of the golden ratio
>at it center sits an old man
>tells me my character suddenly has a blinding headache and nausea as I look at him
>the old man stands up
>tells me everything has slowed down around me
>the old man walks over and whispers to me 'fear the fox in the hen house'
>suddenly everything starts moving again and the old man is gone

what should I do? what does it mean? who was the old man? who is the fox?

I can answer more questions if it'd help solve this.
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Vult is a parody of a human being.
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>>53007340
small races are dumb. Dwarves are kinda cool but still fucking dumb.
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>>53007340
Ratfolk are great and pretty effective and I enjoy playing them
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>>53007340
kobolds, ratfolk, dwarves are the best small races.

fuck goblins and halflings and gnomes
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>>53007441

But anon, dwarves are medium.
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>>53007340
>What small races have you played and how do you make them effective?

I played a goblin before:
>get invited to play in a game
>level 5
>GM says he wants to have templates for players they replace levels
>have stuff like half-fiends and half-dragons in the party
>consider my options and ask the GM if I can have a negative template
>he agrees as long as my total templates are 0 or higher
>decide to be a Advanced Goblin Child
>child gives +4 dex, advanced gives +4 all, goblin gives +4 dex and have 40dex total when buffed
>other stats are all high
>most important part is I'm tiny and can use reduce person to go to diminutive
>spend feats on dampen presence
>play an alchemist and use negate aroma & invisibility to hide from sight/smell
>use the wondrous item slippers to fool tremor sense
>end up with a +72 to stealth


So this is how the game started. I realized none of the party could find me unless I wanted them to. So proceeded to never reveal myself to the party. I used vital strike and readied actions, would fire an arrow at the same time characters attacked so it would be hidden. I would steal my portion of the treasure from the party (not anything higher than my share).

The party grew increasingly enraged by my tiny goblin who followed around their edgy mary sue adventures.

This continued for six months and ended with Grublub the Goblin going far farther than I originally thought with his signature tag line "Grublub lub lub LUBs you".
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>>53007441
>>53007449
Actually you are right. My mistake.
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>>53007453
goblins are dumb.
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Where is that kobold in space game? I have a feeling I was not accepted to overlewd so I'll just make a new application there
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>>53007441
>fuck goblins and halflings and gnomes
Now this is an idea I can get behind. They're like, the tiny economy model and everything!
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>>53007498
Overlewd apps are closed but you can still edit until Friday when he makes decisions I think
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>>53007492
For a moment I thought his wings were doing jazz hands.
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>>53007508
I see it
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>>53007441
kobolds are best
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Do vampires need more or less blood as they grow older?
Do mythic and normal vampires have different dietary requirements?
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is becoming a vampire super broken?
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>>53007573
They need hooch when they get older.
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>>53007573
Depends on the needs of your setting.
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>>53007594
Generally yes
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>>53007594
>>53007573
depends on the type of vampire. Most vampires actually really suck. Only a few are worth anything, and by that time they are intelligent enough to get their food supply from whatever. vampire spawns however need a ton of blood and they need it from intelligent creatures or they die.
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>>53007340
I've got a Halfling Maestro Sorcerer, and I once played a Gnome Spiritualist.
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>>53007594
Getting any positive template is broken.
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>>53007419
Dwarves are medium.
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>>53007668
I want to become a nosferatu. With leadership I can feed off my minions and have them take care of the details of transporting my coffin around and getting me places during the day.
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>>53007504
>you will never begin a goblin eugenics program in an attempt to direct the little bastards into something less inherently destructive and disgusting
>you will never perform a similar program in order to get Kobolds to overcome their crippling physical weaknesses
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>>53007677
it's got some pretty severe drawbacks. Two rounds in sunlight and you're toast.
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>>53007702
Now THAT is a quality vampire. Get your party members to be other undead too, like a pale stranger, a lich, and a death knight.
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>>53007705
I basically did that in backstory.

Kobolds got less terrible due to living in proper society rather than holes in the ground.
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>>53007340

>How do you make them effective?

Give them graphometers.
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>>53007719
>Adventuring during day

Look at this bozo. Look at him and laugh
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>>53007705
Why not? With their average lifespans any elf or longer lived race could make huge strides in such a think.
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Is bestiary 6 out yet?
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>>53007749
it's not just adventuring. You're practically helpless during the day.
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What would you call a state ruled by military dictatorship in a fantasy setting? Junta doesn't sound particularly wow'ing.
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>>53007776
Ye, it's even up if you know where to look
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>>53007796
An Empire. Imperator is a term that can only be bestowed by soldiers on their commander.
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>>53007734
my party members dont know about my past. I'm playing a necromancer wizard who was taught in the ways of the arcane by a nosferatu who passed through my town. My goal right now is just to find him again as he left and I had to find clues as to where he might have went. But yeah I'm not sure how my party is gonna react if and when I become one.
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>>53007779
Just sleep in a coffin for a few hundred years until the sun has died.
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>>53007668
>Most vampires actually really suck

You die tonight, Carlos
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>>53007834
thats boring.
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>>53007779
>>53007834
>>Not using high level wizardry to blot out the sun so you can do vampire things at all hours of the day
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>>53007796

Tyranny.
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>>53007834
>a few hundred
You're off by about seven orders of magnitude
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Update on hell-crusade game, I'm working on lore now and waiting until after Friday to put up the roll20 page. Characters will be starting at level 1 but should progress to level 20 by the end of the campaign. I'm aiming for either Thursdays or Sundays for when I run.
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>>53007869
is there a spell that just blots out the sun? I mean, you could go with wish, I guess. but also doing that would kind of make you the target for every high level paladin in the entire world.
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>Get GM seat forced on me
>Never GMed before
>Campaign setting we make is meh
>No story or plot is coming to me
>Terrible at encounter design
>Called off a month because school
>Now going to just call off the whole thing
How can I feel less shit about this decision, /pfg/? No matter what, I'm still canceling my game. My heart isn't in the campaign at all, and I'm inexperienced as fuck.
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>>53007898
Could I play with the 3.5 Knight class
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>>53007498
Yeah here you go, guy.

>>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/76041/mighty-quest-for-epic-loot-in-the-lair-of-the-kobold-queen
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>>53007340
Kobolds are the best race. They combine the weak determined underdog aspect of halflings, with the initially evil outcast fish-out-of-waters trying to learn civilized ways and become heroes of orcs and other monster races.

There's two hooks in one: depending on the setting, the rules, and the tone, you could go to either direction or even both at the same time.
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>>53007930
Drink.

It's what I do.
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>>53007930
By realizing that most likely cutting it off short makes a better choice than a slow, grueling slog through the campaign until all players just disappear into the four winds to find their own fortune, at which point you must throw your pen back into the lake and be taken away to the island of Avallon.
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>>53007941
Afraid not, but I am going for gestalt so you could always just play a paladin or cavalier paired with another class.
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>>53007812
Seems a tad cliche but fuck it, atleast the party will know what kind of people they're getting when guys from an empire roll up. Would imperator be an appropriate title to all members of the ruling military council though if there is no singular unifying ruler?
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>>53008017
Shame. I never actually had a lot of fun with gestalt. Maybe next time.
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>>53007399
Obviously one of the townsfolk is to blame. A demon or something that preys on normal humans. the proverbial "Fox in the henhouse". The old man is probably a high level mage or some spooky ooky God.
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>>53007964
Now this looks promising. I can't think of a single person who would NOT want to play a kobold in space.
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>>53007705
Mmm, for a game I did something similar, where my Blue psion wanted to 'fix' the goblin race. Naturally, didn't do eugenics, went for a gestalt.
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>>53008008
I made up my mind to end it a while ago. But that really is the only alternative. It just sucks since I like all the guys in the group, just not being GM, and not that campaign. I hope it doesn't kill the relationship I have with them.
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>>53007930
If a GM isn't interested in his own game, it's doomed anyway. The best you can do is end it as quickly and painlessly as possible.

If you feel bad about it, you can always start planning another game. After all, now you have the benefit of knowing what you're getting into and learning from the mistakes you regret. GMing is like any other craft, you need experience to get good at it.
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>>53007930
>>53008177
I agree with the above anon, I started GMing about a year ago and your story reminds me of my own.
I killed my first campaign 3 months in, but started a new one in a new system and we're going on 8 months now. Im infinitely happier with it.
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>>53007964
Oh boy, another game I won't have the time to play
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Is Mounted Archery important for a, well, mounted archer build?
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>>53008290
Pretty much never.
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d20pfsrd is missing soe info on Unchained Monk with Ki Range.

How long does his power last and what feat is the power referring to? It says far shot but it doesn't say anything about increasing range increments.
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>>53008366
it lasts for one round, and for example if you were using it with shuriken, the range would go from 10 feet to 30 feet. I don't know what it means with that far shot feat.
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>>53008322
Any mount related feats save for mounted combat any good?
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>>53008447
For a horseback archer even taking as much as mounted combat is debatable. Consider trick riding I guess.

Mounted feats are mostly for charger types.
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>>53007402
>LOGS
>WHEN
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>>53008474
But trick riding is redundant. At that point you'll have more than enough points in ride that you'll auto succeed all of them and getting a second use for mounted combat doesn't sound too good.
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>>53008482
I want to make passionate love to Catmere to help her forget her troubles!
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This just in folks - we've got the backstory of our first Starfinder Iconic, Navasi, the Human Envoy!
http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ljrp?Meet-the-Iconics-Navasi

>tl;dr is she was an executive princess, decided to run away, life fucking sucked so she became a pirate, became a lesbian, then became a freedom fighter. These were all apparently mutually exclusive.

Bonus: There's now a god of discovery and equality. How much you wanna bet it's one of the big 20?
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>>53008633

She's loose as a wizard's sleeve, anon.

>>53008701

Oh god DAMMIT.
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>>53008701

It's going to be one of the Big 3, anon. Because fuck Trump and fuck White people.
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>>53008701
>Free Captains of the Diaspora
>Literally just the Free Captains of the Shackles IN SPEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!
Lol, Limewire
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>>53008760
>She's loose as a wizard's sleeve, anon.

That makes two of us!
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>>53008795

BUY OUR PRODUCT, GUYS
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>>53008701
Isn't the Swashbuckler iconic also a run-away lesbian pirate freedom fighter?
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>>53008701
What's the Envoy again?
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>>53008883
Yes. Probably the same player.

>>53008898
Think of a spell-less bard or a social rogue.
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>>53008898
Bard, but different somehow.
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>>53008883
To her credit, the swashbuckler iconic is actually pretty cute and interesting, as though they were trying to compensate for her class assignment. Pirate Banshee mom is an awesome plot hook.
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>>53008898
Starfinder version of the Bard. Basically a smooth talking diplomat class that's supposed to be Han Solo
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>>53008898
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>>53008920
indeed it was

>>53008883
>>53008910
>Yes. Probably the same player.
Only once way to be sure. What are their Wisdom scores?
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>>53008947
>Only once way to be sure. What are their Wisdom scores?
We don't have statblocks for the Starfinder characters yet.
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>>53008883

Swashbuckler is a lesbian?
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>>53008983

This is a TTRPG: What characters AREN'T lesbians?
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$20 says the first villain to be revealed is a white man.
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>>53007898
This sounds fucking rad and I want in
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Anyone got any cute pictures of Kobolds with guns?
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>>53009002
I hope it's a smug AI
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>>53008701
So is Navasi a fucking CG? Cause at the moment its sounding rather James Jacobs.
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>>53007898
>Start at level 1

Ew, how is this any different from a bog standard level 1 to 20 campaign?
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>>53009159
We don't have her stats yet to confirm, but signs point to yes.
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>>53009159
Of course she's CG, don't you know that's the official alignment of lesbians, rebels and true heroes of Pathfinder?
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>>53009149
Don't have cute ones, but I got them nonetheless
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>>53009187

>MINT TEA PAST 7PM OR DEATH
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>>53009208
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>>53009229
Far right is the gunslinger
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I for one would prefer to play a glamrock space captain bard who plays the keytar and wears a reflective silver gumpsuit with a V neck that goes all the way down to his belt.
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>>53009187
i mean, hard to be a HERO if your alignment isn't good.
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>>53009229

>>53009272
Son, you could be referencing over 20 different things right now, and I can't tell which one of them it is.
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>>53009296
And this is my last Gunbold. Has this helped any?
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>>53009296
>>53009272
my inspiration is The Darkness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYNYb30nxU

>>53009320
maim draws cute kobold waifus
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>>53009002
They already revealed the first villains. It's Lich CEOs.
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>>53009354

Bone. The whitest material out there.
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>>53009320
Somewhat. Thank you for your help!
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>>53009277
Friendly reminder that James Jacobs hates Lawful and sees it as wholly incompatible with being a proper hero.
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>>53009354
Ah yes. Necromancers. The jew of the wizard world.
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>>53009368
>mfw we are all white deep down

truly the superior race
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>>53009401
No.

You must dig DEEPER. Down to the bone marrow, the source of your lifeblood!

Deep down we are all RED, Comrade!
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>>53009277
>implying Neutral can't be a hero
>implying Evil can't be a hero
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>>53009398
if an android technomancer could become a lich would they store their sourcecode in a computer chip? If so is that how you destroy a lich android
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>>53009499
Destroy all their backups. Duh.
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I'm interested in the Phantom Thief archetype but far as I can tell, it's weaker than a Warrior in combat. What's the best thing I could do on the class to have some combat relevance without leaving it?
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>>53009480
Kent's updated "how in came to this" in overlewd tried to go for "evil hero", in a way, was interesting.
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/pfg/, this isn't healthy. You've been infiltrated by a literal board police pys-op and none of you care.

This cult of hatred around Vult is straight out of Rules for Radicals. If you think these shitposters give a shit about Vult, you're wrong! It's literally just to instill a fear of shame into the thread. These are people who only care that there's porn on /tg/, the same puritan trolls that have attacked everything lewd on /tg/ in the past. They've been building up their ire until they exploded.

Vult was in the discord for MONTHS without garnering this reputation. Only two things changed when this all began. He got in a spat with SEagle in private, and he started a degenerate game. The general opinions on Aisha make it clear as day. She was well liked and memed during the application process, she was a good app! Fast forward about four days after PLD was posted and she's only referred to in derision! Do you think SEagle was shitposting that all? Or do you think it was just another character attack on Vult to make a symbol out of him for daring to run something they think belongs on a different board?

Ask yourselves, what happened as soon as the posting went up? People started blatantly lying about all of it! They lied about everything! They submitted false reports till the app thread got nuked! They literally glorified the idea of sneaking into his game for the express purpose of ruining it and reveling in the ashes! He was lied about, slandered, and publicly shamed no matter what he did and what he said didn't matter.

His only crime was, and is, running a degenerate game, and these would-be board police posters were so incensed about it, and that people wanted to join him in the game, that they waged a constant and total shitstorm against him. And what's most pathetic is they're too afraid to admit who they are, they hide their intents in the discord and spew vile hatred while anonymous.

This isn't healthy!
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>>53009480
If you're an evil character why would you be a hero? Yeah you might adventure and go on quests and journeys but you aren't doing it to help anyone but yourself. Neutral characters are generally motivated more by wanting to be the best at something.
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>>53009645
NE can very easily be a hero. Look at the insinuator anti-paladin who values personal glory above all else. He may not be nice on a personal level, but his entire life is devoted to garnering glory and reputation.
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Hi, /pfg/.

I know the gunslinger is hot smoking trash.
How's the Gunsmoke Mystic hold up? I'd expect it to do quite well since it's an initiator, but I'm a bit wary that it might just be firearms blighting everything they touch.
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How "plant-like" do you prefer your dryads?
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>>53009672
Why would people like a dude who raises the dead and literally radiates unholyness wherever he walks?
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>>53009693
made of wood and leaves but with a girl shape to them.
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>>53009693
Very.
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Are there any suggestions or houserules you guys would have for using guns in your Golarion campaigns? I have a player interested in making a paladin with a firearm.
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>>53009693
Your pic is the most plant I'm willing to go, while my ideal is >>53009756 or, better yet, a wood-nymph.
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>>53009814
why so gay about it though anon. Don't you like treewomen.
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>>53009637
Here's your (you). Fuck off.
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>>53009637
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>>53009693
Very
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>>53009786
the golarion setting already uses guns by default. They are just 'emerging' which means almost every gun in the world is in three places. Tian Xia, Numeria, or the one steampunk country that is stuck between the two wizard states.

So a Holy gun could pretty easily be asian or from a steampunk desert nation. You don't have to include guns with your enemies, but when your party starts becoming more infamous or whatever, you can have enemies that are comping at specifically for fighting gunslingers, like monks or other gunslingers. (Monks with the snatch arrow feat can literally catch bullets, and have the highest touch AC. Furthered if you give them a blur potion.)

Don't worry about him crafting firearms. Unless its advanced firearm. If he wants to make one of those, maybe put a quest or the need to buy blueprints beforehand.
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>>53009637
Nice try Rory.
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>>53009693
Something like a Skyrim Spriggan, but with leaves and flowers and stuff.
Especially with a "flower" to "pollinate"
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Post plants with big butts.

Tell me about the best plant races.
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>>53009959
second. This is the superior dryad.
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>>53009837

I do! What makes you think I don't like tree girls?
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>>53009993
Ghoran are a PC Plant race and canonically delicious.
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>>53009725
Insinuators don't have to raise the dead and often don't radiate evil because they can contract with neutral outsiders.
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>>53009993
okay
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>>53010035
yeah but paladins can also contract with neutral outsiders. Neutrals don't care if you radiate or not.

>>53010007
Because at that point its essentially just a girl wearing a grass skirt and flower crowns.
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>>53009637
I agree. Vult is just like any of us (except Wubu, who is pure.)
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>>53007705
>tfw when my goblin sorceress' backstory is that she was part of a secret government eugenics program that began their trial phase with goblins because they breed quickly
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>>53009725
You don't need to be liked to be a hero.
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>>53010085
Vult is a dick in discord and has thin skin, but there's also a ton of false flagging.

Like, his players don't seem to have any problem with the game (if we believe Slow really did leave over timetabling and nothing else).
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>>53009993
Why are plants so lewd!?
Why is nature so lewd!?
Why can't God keep his Magical Realm to himself?
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>>53010132
I'm one of the players and I have lots of fun!
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Are you looking for a fun and interesting non-lewd game, featuring future potential mythic levels and anime? Look no further.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75969/the-untold-saga
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>>53010141
>>53009993
Spoilered for PROMOTIONS!
Seriously though, is there any doubt that we live in a Magical Realm setting?
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Anyone ever play homosexual characters? I want to play as jakotsu from inuyasha
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>>53010181
>Anime and saga in the same post

Vinland Saga /pfg/ game when??
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>>53010224
>he doesn't /u/
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>>53010224
I'll be your Bankotsu~
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>>53010181
>32 pb
ABSOLUTE MADMAN!
Now we can play MADmen!
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>>53009923
Bro I was taking a nap chill out

T. Rory
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>>53010065

What's wrong with a rustic beauty in a grass skirt and crowned with flowers?
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>>53010229
I call Canute.
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>>53010320
>Canute

More like A Cute
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>>53008077
>>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/76041/mighty-quest-for-epic-loot-in-the-lair-of-the-kobold-queen

god damn it. Why do all the cool games happen when I end up booked.
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>>53010181
>Gluttony (Despite no benefit, still costs one trait): Your study of the Tanzer phenomenon has influenced your appetite severely. You require twice the normal ration amount per day, though can make a DC 15 Survival or Autohypnosis check to subsist off of 1 ration as per normal.

To what end?
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>>53009693
Superficially identical to elven maidens, but with subtle distinctions. They can have children with mortals for example. The baby is not gestated in their humanoid bodies though, but inside the trunk of their trees. Unfortunately, most of them do not survive the child's birth since the tree swells and breaks.
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>>53010411
I'm not the GM for the record. I'm just shilling this game.
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>>53010431
>His dryads don't produce baby fruit or infant flowers
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>>53010431
>not having baby-making rhizominous root nodules that swell up before bursting from the ground like truffles or cabbage-patch kids
YOU ARE LIKE A BABY!
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>>53010411
I'm choosing Gluttony and a Gluttony sin mage VMC Oracle with Ravenous curse.

Joker scars as my scar of destiny.

I am the hunger.
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D&D 5th fag here. I have never played PF before. I only playyed 3.5 once and ir wasnt even a good session. What does PF bring me that 5th wont? Or even 3.5? I am asking this primary as a GM but also as a player (I may join a one shot in a con)
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>>53010574
Prestige as bloat mage :)
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>>53010455
>be adventurer with dyrad wife
>this is it
>you were sent word that your beloved went into labor the day prior
>typical adventuring stuff had kept you away for a while
>but you would be damned if you didn't at least get to see your child
>get home
>your love is holding him (her?) in the swaddling cloth
>can't see it well from this angle, her back is turned
>she turns around to greet you, a radiant smile painted on her face
>pic related is the child
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>>53010588
Already planned m8.
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>>53010595
>NTR'd by a fucking cabbage
... dude....
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How stupid is to change from playing 5e to play PF
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>>53010678
yes.
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>>53010658
No, the baby is at the core of the cabbage leaves.
Do you even Dryad Swaddling?

>>53010678
Exceedingly. You're better off converting PF stuff to 5e
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>>53010431
I can feel a murderous vibe coming from that one..
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>>53010678

It's definitely a much messier system and often requires more effort to make sure you don't suck, but it's got a lot more options just in general. Really depends on what you're looking for in a system.
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>>53010712
is there something worth to transfer from PF to 5e?
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>>53010678
to be honest, 5e is an extreme barebones edition so its easy to pick up. Less options and less content than pathfinder, but whatever you are into.
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>>53010587
>>53010678
I unironically recommend that you stick to 5e. Pathfinder does have its advantages, and if you already know what you're getting into there is a case to be made to transition, but if you don't, it's probably not worthwhile.
All the good in the system comes from the wide range of options, you play Pathfinder because there's something you want to build in it with mechanical representation, and if you don't have that in mind then you'll be fighting up hill against the nonsense core mechanics that can't even stay consistent to each other.

5e is just a much better designed system in about every way, excepting maybe the baseline skill system which is kind of a mess in 5e. You play Pathfinder because 5e won't let you be a Paladin Archer or something.
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>>53010658
/pfg/ you all seem worryingly obsessed with the idea of NTR. Perhaps you should go outside, take a walk, go to a park or something, maybe visit a restaurant you like.
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>>53010740
Archetypes and modules mostly. Wizards hates releasing 5e content and all the modules are super barebones and require a lot of improv by the DMs anyways, but building blocks is so easy that it might actually be faster converting a Pathfinder AP than preparing a 5e module depending on your group.
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>>53009637

t. Vult, Wist, Lily Fae, or iKiD.

When he and the rest of you go off to your little corner to play his game in secret and stops posting everywhere and bragshilling his little harem here, we'll stop.

Vult lurked for a long time, you're right. But in PMs, he had quietly cultivated a reputation for having a temper and being someone disagreeable. The fact that people are coming out of the woodwork now is simply because we've given them the courage to do so.

>what's most pathetic is they're too afraid to admit who they are

In secrecy lies strength. We are inassailable. Vult is not, because he continues to put himself out here like a cry-bully, soaking up the attention and sympathy you enablers give him.

All he needs to do is shed his identity and dissolve back into being yet another anon. All he needs to do to accomplish this is to stop bragging all over the place about how alpha he is because he's getting a ton of e-pussy, while making a big scene over how upset he is that people think negatively about him.

We all know he's just doing it so that people have to resort to PMing him to beg for logs to continue to stroke his ego, anyways.
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>>53010431
I wish to copulate with that
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>>53010740
Just modules, really.
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>>53010740
Inquisitors, Alchemists, a few archetypes you may like, and that just may be about it.
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>>53010791
Fucking Christ, you're an edgelord aren't you?
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>>53010768
It's true; I did all of those things, and now I barely even remember what she looked like!
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>>53010838

Not as edgy as the PLD crew.
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>>53010455
>>53010512
Those actually are great ideas. But whimsical as they are, I doubt a dryad would be responsible enough to raise a child.

The kid would probably become a feral child raised by animals, and eventually a druid.
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>>53010860
Does it make you happy, to be shitting on other people?
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>>53010865
such is life in the deep woods
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>>53009637
>>53010791
I don't care about either side of this or the people in question, but I'm starting to wonder if filtering "Vult" is worth giving up crusades so I don't have to see these posts.
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>>53010860
Gosh, Anon, I feel like I'm the opposite of edgy. I'd like to consider myself pretty easygoing!
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>>53010865
>Dryads
>commonly depicted as motherly, attentive, and caring
>not a good mother or child raiser
U avin a giggle m8?
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>>53010892
Honestly, it just amuses me to see Vult screaming and whining. Reminds me of the dumb assholes I once had to play with in meatspace before I started using Roll20 as a way to filter that type.
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Don't hide it from me /pfg/! Who are your picks for ROaB?
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So! How was your weekend, /pfg/? Do anything fun or exciting, game-related or otherwise?
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>>53010791
I believe "Dishonorable Cur" would be the correct description of you.
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>>53010989
My players took their Hellknight trials and passed. Next week they're going to be fighting a family of wizards who want to drain the Elemental Plane of Water onto the Material Plane.
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>>53011041
So they're fighting Team Aqua?
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>>53010791
I'm not complaining but why am I not being bullied by you edgy anon?
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>>53010989

It was fun, very very fun! I did a lot of work around the house, had a session on Saturday, and just last night had a lovely evening doing Session 0 of Blingmaker with an awesome player and our very impressive DM! Honestly, I'm really excited for Wednesday!
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>>53011080

Oh right, you. I totally forgot you existed. It's been a while since Vult has been parading around your logs.

I'm not all that invested in knowing everything about you people, honestly.

You're reprehensible, too.
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>>53010989
I drew an absolutely terrible pic of two of my characters.
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>>53010964
There's nobody applied to it yet, but... as a quick summary

>"Tin Man", Entropist Kineticist, wants to be the FASTEST RACER
>"Pixie", Brutality Blade Soulknife, wanders around and kills shit dead
>"Warmind", Dual Disciple Psion, [backstory pending]
>"Killswitch", Psychic (Psychic Marauder), Android secretary that, went innawoods, built a robot innawoods
>"Honest Samson", Panoply Savant Occultist, robo-NEET who needs more money
>"The Twins", Bethrothed Avowed, [backstory pending]
>"Wiseman", Psyarm Soulknife, [Backstory pending]
>"Ratboy", Cavalier VMC Bard, [backstory pending]
>"Blackrock", Fighter (Eldritch Guardian), Insubordinate fightman

The only ones with any real backstory are "Honest Samson",, "Killswitch", and "Pixie", and Samson's backstory is bulletpoints at most. It's too early to call your picks just yet you little faggot
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>>53011118
Thanks pal.
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Anyone know if a version of this exists without all the text on it?
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>>53011119

Do share.
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>>53009637
>This isn't healthy!
What really isn't healthy is caring this much about some asshole (unless of course you are Vult). Nobody bullied Vult until he decided to run a game because he kept his bullying private, but once he asked for apps he started airing his shit in public and surprise, surprise, people weren't crazy about that. I'd be happy if all our celebrity namefags would disappear into their own little holes, but that goes double for those fags who brought it on themselves by acting out to get attention (that would be Vult and Rory on this go around of post-RotJR /pfg/ for those keeping score).
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>>53010989
>mfw it was another "setting up for things to come" episode for both games
>mfw other game is still dead af, but GM has voiced that he thinks he'll have time to try pumping some life back into it again
>mfw I now have at least half a dozen new characters I'm excited for, but I will never get to play any of them due to various factors
>mfw magic item crafting is some fat bullshit

Same shit as always, it seems.
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>>53011168
what did you do with magic crafting
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>>53011155
You know what, fine. Never even got the chance to crop the pic down to just the two of them.
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>>53011168
Have you considered using your characters with a different game
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>>53010989
Most of the party got mind controlled by a cross-dressing kitsune fox boy trap.
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>>53011195
Using it at all, mainly. Also paying 47.5% of cost because traits

>>53011207
>implying one of the factors to this isn't "I really shouldn't join more games"
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>>53009637
>You've been infiltrated by a literal board police pys-op and none of you care.
That's not what's going on here. Anons on /pfg/ have ALWAYS hated those who shrugged anonymity and took on a name. Why? Because when you have a name you get attention for being different. They've done it to everybody, BUILDPOSTER, 2hu, QANON, reviewanon, just to name a few. Even 3pp devs aren't immune. Namefags we've loved because they brought us free stuff are just as often vilified for daring to put on a name, and thus became a target.

The reason Vult gets it double is because he reacts so spectacularly. He gets really angry, lashes out, even when he's samefagging as an anon it's pretty fucking obvious. And so as long as Vult continues to waltz around here with a target on his back, or if he talks about his game like people care about it, he'll keep getting yelled at.

It has nothing to do with puritanical moralizing, otherwise things like RotJR ship-posting or the many other lewd-oriented post types we've had would have been met with the same vociferous hatred much earlier. It wasn't until things like that were basically drowning out whole threads that people pushed back. This isn't a crusade against lewds, it's just push back against an asshole who reacts in exactly the way trolls love to be reacted to.
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>>53011196

No worries.
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>>53010989
Weekend was nice weather and hiking. No weekend games, but running one right now.
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>>53011322
>Anons hated QANON

This is news to me.
I thought people tolerated and accepted QANON up until they met the real her and found out she was secretly nice under the QANON act and now everyone likes her
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>>53011558
>This is news to me.
that's because it's untrue. Most people really liked her.
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>>53011322
The literal only reason Vult/PLD started drowning threads was because of puritanical hate posting though

Jesus christ, 80% of his posts were trying to correct mis-info
15% of his posts were talking about the homebrew mechanics he was trying to include
and 5% MAYBE was shilling the game, and that was only in the beginning
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>>53011341
Thanks.
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PLD was a mistake
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>>53011661
Fuck off Rory
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Lets say you dont happen to have a spellcaster nor an AoE spell, how does a typical martialist deal with a swarm enemy then?

I know a GM who likes to put swarms in his adventures, so its best to be prepared
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>>53011558
Do you not remember the shitfit the thread threw after she decided to withhold the trove in response to the 2hu witchhunt over Forrest leaving? Or the fact that any merits of her character have been completely ignored and the thread just assumes Quinn was accepted into FotJR because she's QANON.
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>>53009637
Nah I legitimately think he's a piece of shit
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>>53011756
Pick up as much Alchemist's Fire as you can.

Funnily enough, Kineticists are good against Swarms from level 1, but that's not what you're looking for
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>>53011756
flasks of acid and squares of fire.
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>>53011109
You're an awesome player!
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>>53011756
I think there's a feat for it.

A combat feat even, so you could get a Training weapon for it.
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>>53011797
are you the nigger pushing kineticists every thread. It feels like there is always one guy doing it.
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>>53011322
I will murder you
QANON was pure! PURE!
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>>53011821
Not that anon, but frankly kineticist isn't bad.

Yeah, it's not amazing, but it's around tier 4; it can do its job. It can maintain contribution well into a high level game.
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I want to marry QANON!
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>>53011821
Nah, just making a note that there's a throwaway line that Kinetic Blast does full damage against swarms, which people seem to forget a lot.
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>>53011608
No, it was mostly because he acts like a retard.

See his "OH YOU JUST WANT A MANUAL TO GET IN THE GAME?", AKA an actual, factual statement of 'READ MY MIND'
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>>53011854
>do what 30 other people have done just fine
>if you can't, I'm not interested in having you as my player
Seems fine to me famalamasenpai
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>>53011854

The hilarious part is that he literally did the same thing to Dragonborn DM.
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>>53011893
Asking questions of the GM is expected in a game where you're going to be taking part in the world. Asking "Can you give me some advice on how to make this fit better into your world because I don't know anything more than the blurbs you've provided" is fucking important.

Him acting like an asshole about that? No, that's not cool. And, to me at least, it meant I'd have a lot of problems with him as a GM. Wasn't worth it, so I dropped.

also, just in case you're wondering; not that anon.
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>>53011854
Of course, the problem here is that he's done the same shit to other GMs. If you refuse him anything, even the tiniest little tweak, he'll talk shit behind your back.
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>>53011608
The drowning out point wasn't about PLD, it was about RotJR or the other lewdgames that eventually filled the threads with shipping. If this was really a puritanical crusade against lewdgames, those would have been attacked before they started drowning the threads. PLD on the other hand was openly attacked long before it started drowning threads. This is because it's not about board policing, it's about trolls reacting to Vult because he responds the way the like. He responds like the angry asshole he is.
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>>53011926
That and where RotJR, WotRaunchy, etc., were all "lewd", PLD was explicitly the "monster rape" game.
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>>53011816
Whats this training weapon now?

If you know the feat name, that would be real helpful!
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>>53011893
I think the decision not to provide players with more information is perfectly fine and a DM doesn't need any reason at all to ignore a question. I think the problem anon has is the fuss put up over it, and not a problem with the actual decision.
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>>53011955
Not answering a question is fine.
Vult's more the type to go off on a rant about OH WOW THIS ASSHOLE EXPECTS ME TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION.
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So if you are going to make a Small sized PC, is there anything to keep in mind?

What about a Tiny Adventurer?
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>>53011969
That's what I meant but you said it way less autistically.
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>>53011969
Exactly and that's why he's such a jackass
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>>53011982
the changes with equipment weights usually. Also how much more creatures can swallow you whole or bully you
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>>53011952
Training is a +1 enhancement you can add to a weapon. It provides you with a feat while you wield the weapon.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abilities/training/
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>>53012024
WHERE HAS THIS BEEN ALL MY LIFE.
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>>53012040
In Inner Sea Intrigue, apparently.
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>>53011969
>>53011920
>3) You MUST be from somewhere OTHER than the Wester Fief of King Luthor. Where ever that is, you get to fluff it to an extent. If you can't match the tone of the setting, that's a big strike against you.

>I'm not going to play 20 questions with every applicant, because that defeats the purpose of using your creativity to filter you. Sorry and good luck.
t. Vult
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>>53010964
Far too early for that. I made the app due date pretty far off for the express purpose of ironing out all the issues involving the extensive but mostly necessary homebrew shit. So far I like the backstory foundations that have appeared, they've all got a nice flair that seems to stem from a particular entry in the mecha genre. It's actually really fun to see people bringing in different tropes from different series.
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>>53007441
fucking scaly faggot trying to lump dwarves with your shit tastes. fuck off
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>>53012068
>to an extent
This is the big problem. He was unclear, and unwilling to give clarification.
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>>53008290
If you want to move and attack at the same time.
(Which smart GMs will use against you if you don't)
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>>53012095
That was obviously to ward off backstory cheese.
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>>53007340
Gnomes and Halflings, make them effective by playing a caster or a mounted character.
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>>53012040
It's really great and supremely underpriced. And frequently overlooked because it's from a splatbook nobody cares about and it's not well indexed on the SRD.
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>>53012014
Just how many more creatures can swallow you then?
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>>53007797
Is it more muhlovecraftspookyspaceseamonsters shit like bestiary 5?
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>>53012041
"Boy I sure wish we could use illithids"
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>>53012163
a few. It's also got the Archdevils and the Empyreal Lords.
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>>53012163
People are pretty excited about the menagerie archdevils. Also werebugs.
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>>53012195
W A S P S
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>>53012087
>different tropes from different series

Which ones can you name, for those unfamiliar with mecha genre tropes?
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>>53012134
Do you really need 100ft a round?

I mean I guess it stops people from catching up on a double move and all if there's an open field but 50ft with full attacks is already insane.
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>>53009756
>>53009892
>Very
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>>53009672
That's not a Neutral Evil character though, that insinuator anti-paladin is a bitch ass neutral faking the evil part. He should be drawn and quartered.
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>>53012145
>backstory cheese.
What's backstory cheese?
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>>53011773
I thought Quinn got in FotJR because she's sleeping with the DM?
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>>53012203
Pixie is very obviously a 'cybernewtype' trope from gundam, granted she also has the most developed app.
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>>53010964
You not shilling your shitty roll20 game here.
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>>53009756
GODDAMNIT DO NOT FUCK PLANTS
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>>53012240
I have absolutely no idea. Unless you've got like 500 pages of backstory to pull shit out of your ass, I don't think there's such a thing.
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>>53011756
UMD, Alchemist Fire, Scatter Firearms like Blunderbuss/Dragon Pistol/Shotgun, and magic items such as bead of force.
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>>53012255
Anon. A half-dryad race would be REALLY cool. Think about it. Take one for the team.
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>>53012245
Nope. Just because she's QANON.
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>>53012240
Like, "I hail from the world renowned dragonslayer disciple church" or "here be airships" "This is the land where no one dies"

Pop quiz : How many people do you think actually PM'd Vult to ask questions?

Here's a hint : He was actually answering questions in these threads, and was adding setting info as it seemed necessary
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>>53012269
Oh, and I guess spell storing weapon/armor/sheild
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>>53012255
But I'm so SO thirsty. It's been so long since I've been watered.
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>>53012300
>>53012271
AHHHHHH
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>>53012278
Dumb shit. Favoritism is the worst, fuck her. Probably a dude anyway.
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>>53012283
The problem is that Vult just yells "No" where every other GM has been saying "Yes, but" or "Yes, and" unless it's a blatant attempt to cheese out the character.
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What kind of abilities would you expect from a humanoid android race that can potentially THINK it's a human and reasonably pass? Odd quirks aside, like suspicious resistance to disease and such. What should such a race DO and be GOOD AT?
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>>53012313
>people think RotJR is 1 game with 6 slots
>GM decides to run it as two games and puts some of his friends in it, increasing the overall number of characters accepted
>somehow this is a bad thing
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>>53012326
+Charisma and a bonus on Disguise checks
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>>53012207
Depends on how your combat encounters are designed? If you can stay 50ft away reliably and not worry about being charged you don't need a mount.
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>>53012313
It's not like anything of quality was lost. The DM wanted to run a side game of RotJR for his friends on Friday while the favorites get to play on Saturday.
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>>53012314
Answer the question

How many people do you think actually PMd him questions and got told No?
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>>53012300
Can we have something less evil than a cactus that wants to be fucked? I think that's the maximum evil but can we go a lot less evil than that please?
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I promised lewds a while back of my character and greta.

>inb4 fag

Here ya go /pfg/
https://imgur.com/a/dtfnt
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>>53012326
Being asexual and wondering what's wrong with you
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>>53012372

nice
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>>53012372
excellent
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>>53010297
Fuck off Vult.
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>>53012372
I'm happy that you did this even if I am so not the audience for it.
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>>53012406
>t. Rory
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>>53012372
What Lamashtan sorcery allowed her to accomplish this feat?
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>>53012420
t. Rory
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>>53012372
I don't have an appropriate response for this but feel compelled to reply.
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>>53012349
Okay, if you're going to sperg out on me about it, then most of those who applied.

Considering his attitude when interacting with other GMs as a player, he probably kept telling them they were wrong, trying to get them to twist their character into what he wanted, or just going off on a bitch-fit about random shit.

Every time a GM tells him no, or even just to make some minor changes, he starts telling anybody who will listen about how the GM is an asshole. It happens all the time in the Discord.
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>>53012372
Well, not my thing, but I'm inordinately pleased that you delivered.
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>>53012372
Oh shit son those faces
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>>53010297

Somehow a t. Rory always brightens the thread unlike a t. Vult.
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>>53012372
Good for you, I guess. Think you might have benefited from a better artist.
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>>53012372
I kind of don't like that they aren't looking at one another
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>>53012372
Looks bad, work on your anatomy

Positioning is awful too, looks like dick girl can't fuck well.
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>>53012372
Nice work, Anon. I love the thumb in the mouth, always one of my favorite touches that's easy to include but too often neglected.
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I think we're all forgetting who we should be hating here:
https://pastebin.com/kqRRBzLg
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>>53012372

It's shit.
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>>53012469

>/pfg/ current playtests

ahahahahaha.

No, but seriously this is so memetic by this point that it's just satisfying.

How does it feel Vult, that this is so much more well-recieved than your own logs?
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>>53012469
Fuck off, Vult.
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Always wanted to learn how to play Pathfinder. Thought it seems this place is the wrong place to do so. Nothing but poorly written ERPs in this bitch.
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>>53012488
Thats because Rory and Aurora were both obviously trying hard with these logs.

Unlike Vult.
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>>53012442
Can confirm as a PLD applicant.
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>>53012471
>>53012372
It's shit, isn't it?
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>>53012503
Its not a particularly complex game, choose what you want to do, roll a d20.

Its just a d20 game, if you've played one you've played em all.
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>>53012510

Care to share your identity or logs, since Vult will inevitably screech autistically about how you're lying?
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>>53012442
Your guess of ~15 is off by 12

It was three.

One person sent a wall of text with no reference to their character in it and went "But is this what you're looking for?" and got told No.

One person asked to clarify a point about Fae mechanics, and the point was clarified.

And the third asked if a rule could be fudged and was told no.

It was that first person that caused all of the shitposting about this. ONE person got told he wouldn't play 20 questions with him.
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>>53012442
>Last thing Vult says on the topic in discord is just defending himself while admitting Eagle may not have meant to be malicious but explaining why he took it that way

Seemed sensible enough.
People forget Dragons 2 didn't exactly have the most professional application process by a long shot either.
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>>53012372
DELETE THIS
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>>53012469
You're just as bad as him for reposting the logs you dumb motherfucker.
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>>53012503
This flag is too false, I'm going to have to ask you to remove it
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>>53009993
Alraunes, probably. But don't go thinking they are waifu material. The alluring "woman" promising you a world of pleasures is just a mutated pistil used by the plant to attract and devour its prey.
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>>53012503
You've come at a bad time, anon. Feel free to form your questions and dump them all next thread, or else cross your fingers and hope that the IRC or Discord are willing to help.
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>>53012548
Does that mean that an adventurer getting domm'd by an Alarune is being..

Pistil whipped?
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>>53012535
Calm down man, It's just some generic dickgirl barbarian, could have been anybody.

I mean she's not even black, so it's not like it's worthwhile as bait.
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>>53012488
>>/pfg/ current playtests
>
>ahahahahaha.
I think he used the link from the time the witchhunter tried to sneak it into the OP. Sadly it only appeared in one thread since some random anon decided to look for the avowed like 10 minutes into the thread.
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>>53012326
We already have an android race that works pretty well. They are good at logical thinking because they are still robots, but only partially because they are mostly synthetic biology.
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>>53012525
I would but I got in.
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>>53012579
Fucking hell, Anon.
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>>53012372
Hmm...I wanna say Legoman, but he never does anything but shitty sketches, and those take months. I also see a little of Incase in there, but only around the faces.
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>>53012595

CAPTAIN SLOW / MR NOBODY CONFIRMED.
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>>53012595
WE'RE NOT JUNKYARD HOUNDS

WE'RE DIAMOND DOOOOGS
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Help me settle something with my GM /pfg/.

Do you need to be in melee to feint someone? Or could you feint them from afar?
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Alright fuckos, I know I can't stop the shitposting but let's try to sneak in some conversation inbetween all this and hope that somehow, the next thread starts off with an atmosphere somewhere north of absolutely shit.

Let's discuss the Blightseeker. Heroes of the Darklands has a few archetypes with fairly narrow flavour, but you could probably adapt the Blightseeker into most games fairly easily. I imagine you'd want to set up more or less the same as any bomb-slinging alchemist, but at an average 1 damage loss per bomb and some discoveries here and there, we're looking at some decent debuffing. You'll have to prepare and track your effects though.

An obvious theme for a Blightseeker is a travelling plague doctor, but you could probably get away with anywhere between a tribal guerilla to a courtly alchemist here. What're your thoughts?
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>>53012624
Blightseeker is pretty solid for a debuff based alch, its a nice alternative choice.
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>>53012624
Blightseeker could have been cool but then I looked closer and realised how lackluster it was.

The debuffs that the bombs inflict scale WAY too slow for your level, and by the time you get access to each tier of conditions it's already obsolete. Would not play.
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>>53012624
What about that weird bug-cavalier? Is that any good?
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>>53012624
Sadly, you have better debuffs just by taking extra discovery and picking a few of the debuff discoveries. Void Bomb in particular is great.
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>>53012624
This is compatible with Grenadier isn't it? Can you attach blightbombs to your arrows as a Blightseeker-Grenadier?
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>>53012624
I actually had my alchemist retrain as a Blightseeker since she's a Cyth'Vsug cultist. It's gone well thus far. Flesh Eating Bomb helps to counter the lowered bomb damage.
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>>53012624
Was the Drowgilante the only good thing to come out of that book?
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>>53012372

Greta's breasts are not that large, nor is her figure that thick. She's got a hefty chest for sure, but she's sleek and slender like a she-wolf. Her demeanor is all wrong as well - Greta comes from a society built on domination, and that should offer the tone that paints all aspects of her life. That isn't a position she would be into, rather it would be either her on top, or her lover on top, preferably either missionary or doggy (as Winter Wolves are still wolves, yet jealously guard the agreement that has given them human bodies.)

If you're going to draw artwork of an established character, please do it while remaining faithful to the character's canon proportions.
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>>53012607
You're getting cold, Anon. Really cold.
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>>53012693
looks like you can. Grenadier specifically states "The alchemical item takes full effect on the next creature struck by the weapon"
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>>53012711
Beastkin was fucking fantastic, nigga
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>>53012709
Flesh Eating Bomb? Mind elaborating?
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>>53012725
>Falseflagging to make Vult suspect his players of talking behind his back
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>>53012725

I mean, we can just go by process of elimination here. But if the players can confirm he's a shitter, then it's settled. Vult's a shitter.

You musta been real thirsty.
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>>53012741
Two good things, above average for Paizo. Good jorb!
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>>53012442
>Every time a GM tells him no
How many times has this even happened?

I can only think of like, three times

The SKY PIRATES shit about where tieflings actually come from, which ended in the DM conceding that it is actually normal for tieflings to be from pacts not from fucking, and then Vult conceding like, every other point?

Dragons 2 shenanigans over Avowed because he was trying to figure out what the hell SEagle wanted after the nerf hammer hit

And then the shit that happened with Sigh, where he got told "Yeah sure, you can port over Aisha, if you completely rewrite her and throw out the core conflict", which was entirely in PMs
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>>53012692
You're mostly limited to a single bomb discovery, so you can't stack them with each other but you can stack them with the Blightseeker bombs, and when you get Rapid Shot/Fast Bombs you can lob a different debuff on each one during a full-round.

Could be interesting.
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>>53012793

So he's blown up on three different occasions?

Poor form.
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>>53012748
Increases your bomb's damage by one step as long as you're using it on an organic target.
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>>53012781
Archetypes don't have to be powerful and pushed, they just need to make up for the features they lose. I think most of the archetypes in this book are actually pretty cool.

Though I might just be giving it too much credit for following up the last player's companion. Monster's Hunter Handbook was so ridiculous bad, fuck.
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>>53012816
Fighting with the DM does not mean he "blew up"

Hell, I'd say trying to get the rules right for your character is perfectly legitimate
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>>53008701
>There's now a god of discovery and equality.
Discovery and equality are contrasting elements. Not because of some white chauvinist bullshit, but because discovering something inherently gives you privileged access to that thing.

A god of *teaching* and equality, or of gospel and equality, or information and equality, would all make much more sense.
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>>53012579
>"Your body will become the growing place for my children. Be happy that you can be a nutritious seedbed for beautiful flowers."
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>>53012859
>Fighting with the DM is legitimate when I do it
>Fighting with the DM is illegal when you do it
t. Vult
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>>53012326
Resist EVERY energy type through your safe rubber suit and resilient parts. Your stupid friends are just being pussies when they can't stand the cold, touch electricity, get burned, something's too loud, etc. Even negative and positive energy isn't nearly as big a deal as their bitch asses say it is.

Did you want sad/heartwarming? Because I went dudebro, this is a dudebro race now and you can't stop it.
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>>53012882
the mechanical rules
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>>53012859
>Fighting with the DM
Fighting is the definition of blowing up. If you lose your cool, if you start getting angry, you have blown up.

And Vult loses his cool over random shit, he's done it even in the midst of an otherwise normal conversation. He constantly paints himself as a victim and can never admit to being wrong, so whenever somebody points out something he might not be right about, he doubles down and adds them to his list of imaginary enemies.

Look for anything he's said, it's always about someone else is at fault, someone else cucked him out of an option he wanted, someone else is being unfair. Then you dig a little deeper and find out that he's either twisting the narrative to serve himself, or making shit up out of whole cloth.
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>>53012931
You can fight with someone while not being angry

Have you ever heard of confirmation bias?
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>>53012882
also
>Disagreeing with the DM and dragging the argument into /pfg/ is legitimate when I do it
>Disagreeing with the DM and dragging the argument into /pfg/ is illegal when you do it
t. Vult
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>>53012759
>not playing on his diamond dogs paranoia and laughing at him
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>>53012841
>Archetypes don't have to be powerful and pushed, they just need to make up for the features they lose

Ebout 70%~ of the time the trades are not at all making up for the features lost in an archetype. Monster Hunter's Handbook was a dumpster fire save maybe the Cavalier archetype. Lots of archetypes are really cool but trash, and that's bullshit.
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>>53012962
Really, it depends on how you're defining "fight". Guy above you seems to be assuming that it's not a fight unless it has anger or malice behind it. Your definition includes gentler arguments or debates under the greater umbrella of fighting.

The problem with Vult seems to be that he starts at arguing and goes from there rather than having a baseline where he's not arguing or being adversarial with someone.
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I'm just popping in to say that I'm not responding to your PMs, Vult, if you have something you want to say you can say it to my "face" in the public face of these threads, and if you disagree with my interpretation of the events from your application process for my game I can copy/pasta them here for everyone to look over and decide for themselves.
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>>53013013
NO MERCY
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>>53013013

S A V A G E

So after all that bullshit about "HOW ABOUT YOU COME OUT AND SAY IT FAGGOT", Vult can't even discuss things in public and goes immediately to shittalk people in PMs.
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>>53013013
>I'm so upset you called my game childish that I'm going to shit up this thread some more
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>>53012177
As though intellect devourers, negghu-thalu, and neothelids aren't bad enough.
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What's the deets on bioships in Starfinder?
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I am pretty new to returning to PFG threads after a while so I don't know too much but judging by all this, this vult guy sounds like a huge fag
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>>53013008
Yeah, I'm definitely not about to defend Monster Hunter's Handbook. A lot of the archetypes suffer from only equaling out against their intended enemy and falling way below vanilla against anything else. It's shit.

I just think that Darklands is a lot better about trade offs. Excepting the crazy Vigilante archetype, none of the others are really powerful but most of them make are pretty light on what you lose in exchange for interesting features. I think that's great design and I prefer it to some popular archetypes like the Sanctified Slayer that warp the class identity to make it work. The Turncoat archetype for Slayer here doesn't really give you anything good, but it trades out two non-features and Quarry which you won't see most games in exchange for making a Slayer into a viable face.
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>>53013013
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>>53013013
Nigger, he had like an hour long discussion in the discord going over whether or not he should have been frustrated with you, Mr. "Yeah sure, port her over, but delete the entire basis of her and start over"

also
>get in private argument
>shit post about it while he's asleep
>Vult responds privately
>NO I'M NOT GOING TO TALK TO YOU IN PRIVATE YOU FAGGOT
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>>53013013

Dragonborn DM! You're my hero!
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Anybody happen to have a link to RotJR's application thread?
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>>53013100
We have no idea yet. I do have some links for you if you want to see the Starship stuff we have so far (and Starfinder in general)?

https://pastebin.com/GLKBydzC
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>>53013013
I don't want to defend Vult but can we please drop this and not start heading into the direction of high school cliques?

I want to stop hearing about Vult. I don't want to shame him, I don't want to listen to him, I don't want to troll him, and I don't want to white knight him. Please.
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>>53013073
>Making an anonymous, sarcastic greentext response instead of facing the issue head on

You're a petty coward, Vult. Sack up or shut up.
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>>53012892
>Chad, how the fuck are you just standing there taking crossbow bolts like that
>HAHA BUCKLE UP BROSKI THIS IS NOTHING
>HAVE YOU LOSERS EVEN *BEEN* SURFING BEFORE? WALKING ON THE CORAL REEF OUT BY STEVES COTTAGE WOULD FUCKIN RUIN YOU GUYS, I SWEAR
>NOW CHECK THIS POSE
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>>53013134

>mfw spinal mounts are a thing
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To actually be able to take advantage of the Kasatha racial archetype for the Ranger that lets them dual wield bows, do you just take a single level in ranger, then the rest in Fighter for those sweet sweet feats you can't get enough of with a dual-wielding bow build?
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>>53013013
Vult may be a dick, dragon DM, but so are you.
Don't drag dirty laundry into the thread.
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I want Iomedae to be a Space Paladin Goddess! Have they announced the Pantheon yet?
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>>53013100
In Distant worlds there were mentions of etherships powered by giant starcreatures, like a castle on the back of a space whale, or creatures that actively traveled between planets like those giant moths and stuff. There were also giant creatures from the gas giants that had biotech capable of space travel.
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>>53013133
The waiting room is still around, but the LFG 404'd a long time ago.
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>>53013167


>the far future

>religions

Please no.

Fantasy religions are cringey enough. Sci-fi religions are even worse.
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>>53013152
I think the logical progression of super androids in the future is /fit/posting telling people to check them out constantly. If you knew you were fucking amazing from the moment you were born you'd never get over it.
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>DISCORD IS BURNING THE THREAD DOWN

WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED
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>>53013013
Did your game fail or something? Why do you even give a shit that he got frustrated with you?
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>>53013173
Could I at least get Aurora's character art then?
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>>53013194

But sci-fi religions are awesome.
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>>53013133
The actual apps got 404'd after selections were announced (though you can still pull up individual apps if you have the URL for the app page). You can find the preliminary apps through the waiting room, still:
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4262777/character-discussion
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>>53013161
As long as you gain the ability to duelwield you can change classes.

>>53013167
not the full pantheon but they confirmed all the previous gods as still in, along with new gods and machine gods.

>>53013194
Its hard to be atheist in a universe where gods actually exist and interact often
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>>53013133

Which characters are you looking for?
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>>53013013
>how to false flag two different people at once
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>>53013210
I think you're thinking of the wrong game.
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>>53013212
I want to FUCK Aqua
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>>53013218
Yes you get the dual-wield from the first level, but is the right choice to swap to fighter?
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What are the current mecha tropes of each app to ROaB

https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4977416/applications-thread#post-4988759
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>>53013210
But thats dragons2 you idiot
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>>53013258
Can't tell without backstories
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>>53013167
>Pantheon
>distant future
The game context of religion would be best handled like Star Trek, mostly planetary hojo but with vague special serendipity moments among the crew that "makes u think" before the credits
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>>53013270
Well, for those of them that have backstories, which are currently Pixie, Killswitch, and Samuel
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>>53013247
I actually like the kasatha ranger abilities. If you REALLY can't stand ranger you can switch, but with those abilities, the bonus feats, and the magic spells, along with a possible animal companion or the other ranger thing, it seems like a better deal to stick ranger.

are you applying for that new game that is around here about the worldhopping and space stuff with the conversion to starfinder when it comes out?
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>>53013293
>>53013293
>>53013293
>>53013293
>>53013293
>>53013293
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>>53013218
>hard to be Atheist
Not if you go with my headcanon for pic related.


>The gods exist. They do NOT have your best interests at heart. They are more trouble than they are worth, and worshipping them is a stupid idea. You will not brook an uncaring king - why offer your soul to someone who cares even less for your opinion?

>We mortals have only ourselves to rely upon.

>Devils press us from the north. Demon apes from the south. And a great storm, caused by a god's death, laps at our shores. What more proof do we need that we cannot trust them to protect us? That we are little more than playthings in their eyes?

>The gods brought us three hundred years of nonstop war. We forged the peace we have now with our own hands.
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>>53013243

Well, don't. She's a gross drunk.
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>>53013281
Pixie is a cyber newtype
Silvia is a rampant AI
Samuel is... I have no idea. Just JC denton?
Blackrock is unrepentant SRW Gespent Kai ripoff.
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>>53013243
Even fucking Kazuma of all people wouldn't fuck that.
Just let that sink in and simmer for a while.
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>>53013106
Yea, I wish there WERE in fact more archetypes that actually hit the same spot the Slayer one nailed. It actually did "trade niche ability for different niche ability" without sucking hot shit in every fashion. I want more shit like that. I want MORE things that are ACTUAL, REAL TRADES that you can fucking USE properly. Granted, my favorite archetypes are the really transformative ones, Sanctified Slayer chief among them, but I just want more actually usable archetypes. I also don't want to lower my expectations just because Monster Hunter's Handbook was utter garbage.

I don't remember where I was going with this.
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>>53013210

most recent version i have available.
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>>53013373
It's okay, we've established that Monster Hunter's Handbook needs to go away forever and that Turncoat is actually kind of cool. That makes us anonymous friends. See you next thread buddums.
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>>53013404

and the token with proper skintone
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>>53013417
>remembering the logs

hehehehehe
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>>53013417
>>53013404
SEagle!

Did Vult actually blow up on you over Avowed?
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>>53013194
Are you kidding? Imagine carrying a new Shining Crusade across the galaxy? That shit writes itself!
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>>53013459
>>53013444

Fuck the both of you.
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>>53013404
>>53013417
SEagle!

Does Onryou like dogs or cats?
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>>53013486
Is that an invitaiton?
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>>53013218
>but they confirmed all the previous gods as still in

For some reason, the idea of a semi-retired Asmodeus that finally just stopped giving a fuck and settled down somewhere is really appealing for a sci-fi future of Golarion's setting. Like some epiphany reconciled his own views with Ihys' views and he's just straight up Neutral, chilling someplace out there.
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>>53013469
>Remember, we speak now of the Iomedae who ordered crusaders trumpeted to death, the Iomedae who denied the conventions of her own Lawful Good past with a wave of the hand, saying merely: "I am the Inheritor. That is reason enough."
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>>53013505
Eh, if it wasn't in the God Book, I don't really trust it too much. Dumb shit happens in every AP.
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>>53013496

She likes big animals. So Think Mastiffs, Bears, and lions.
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>>53013562
>Mastiffs, Bears, and lions
Oh my!
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>>53013562
Is that why she is trying to embiggen the spider?
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>>53013404
Did you draw this?
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>>53013597
No, Aurora's player drew it
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>>53013597

Actually no, Aurora's player drew it. She's currently going through a redesign. Because she's currently slightly bigger in the chest and rump area. Also Supposed to be Delicious brown.

>>53013593
She loves it when people enjoy her food.
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>>53010964
Still coming up with proper backstory; last week was pretty rough and I ended up doing almost nothing. Even one app was rushed due to deadlines and that went about as well as could be expected.

Got some time for ROaB, I want to at least think it through.
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>>53010918
>motherly
Where did you go search that idea? I can't remember a single dryad in Greek Mythology that was a good mother. In fact, the god Pan almost became wolf food because his mother, Dryope (an actual dryad), abandoned him in the wild since she didn't like a furry baby with hooves.
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>>53014479
I once watched a late 80's British movie about a family living in the countryside. Since the parents got a job in London and had to spend the whole week there, returning only at fridays, they decided to pay a baby-sitter for the kids. They find an adorable, sweet, Mary Poppins-like lady and everything seemed perfect at first. Turns out, however, that the lady was a murderous, sociopathic dryad that became addicted to sacrifice children and water her tree with their blood.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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