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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Enlarge Person Edition:

All i wanna do,
is see you turn into
A giant woman!

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW

Current Playtests: https://pastebin.com/quSzkadj

Old Thread: >>52988271
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Is there a such thing as a one handed grapple? Basically grabbing hold of someone and keeping them in place without going full grapple.
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>>52997224
Yeah, a grapple.
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>>52996862
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>>52996862
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>>52996862
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Is Wizard / Witch a good gestalt?
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So what's the fastest way to get Reduce/Enlarge person permanently cast on someone?
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>>52997336
they get essentially the same spell list but witch's spell list is worse.

>>52997345
the permanency spell, or an item with it. You can usually get a wizard to cast it with extend metamagic and it will last all day for like one level 2 slot.
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>>52996862
So now that overlewd apps are closed, what other games are possible to be getting into?
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>>52996862

I don't care about your game but that cyclops is pretty cute.
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>>52997224
Grappling with only one hand free is a... -5 I think?

Grabbing Style or one of its following feats removes the penalty, is what I remember.
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>>52997345
Assuming you're able to use spellcasting services as written, you can pay a total of 3,040 gp to have a 9th level caster cast Enlarge Person and Permanency on you.
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>>52997354
>An enchanted item that keeps Permanency on
Hmm, that gives me an idea or two.

I don't mind recharging it daily, a perpetual Permanency is most likely going to be very expensive, eh?
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>>52997383
tetori monk and you can grapple with just a few fingers or a leg free.
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>>52997394
>9th Level Caster
I'm pretty sure those are in short supply.

Thanks for the help.
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>>52997395
About as much as a level 2 Pearl of Power, my guy, since that's essentially what you're taking up from your local caster's spell list.
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>>52997395
extend enlarge person cast by a level 5 wizard should last you all day pretty much.
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Presenting newly created Logs for interested parties.

https://pastebin.com/tHnC3K1Y

Under the soul-crushing influence of corruption brought about by curative magic and emotionally insecure after her failure to save her companion Cashmere from the vile Manticore, Gloriana is enticed by the fiendish Lady Dina Martel into a liaison in her study.
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>>52996862
>>>/trash/
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>>52997423
10 minutes is hardly all day.
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>>52997354
>they get essentially the same spell list but witch's spell list is worse.
Witch gets hexes and a bunch of Druid spells though, it's basically the closest you can get to a Wizard / Wizard gestalt.
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This recently happened to me in a campaign I'm in:
>finally got a meeting with the governor
>we've been trying to get an audience for two sessions now
>did some business for a local bureaucrat to get him to sponsor us for a meeting
>the meeting went well
>convinced him to lend us aid
>we were supposed to head out with a force to investigate weird shit in the hills
>weird shit mainly including random famers showing up with strange injuries and no memory
>as we were leaving we head into the market to get supplies
>GM tells me to stop for a moment
>tells me that some window, two birds, ivy, and a stoop form a perfect representation of the golden ratio
>at it center sits an old man
>tells me my character suddenly has a blinding headache and nausea as I look at him
>the old man stands up
>tells me everything has slowed down around me
>the old man walks over and whispers to me 'fear the fox in the hen house'
>suddenly everything starts moving again and the old man is gone

what should I do? what does it mean?
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>>52997429
Honestly Vult, this is getting annoying.
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>>52997365
>>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/76041/mighty-quest-for-epic-loot-in-the-lair-of-the-kobold-queen

seems the most promising. I'll wait to see if I get accepted for Overlewd before applying here though.

There was that oil and blood one, but it seems overly convoluted.
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>>52997466
I would recommend fearing the fox in the hen house.
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>>52997468
People do read the logs.
I do think they should only be posted once each, though.

They spread on their own after that.
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>>52997486
the fuck is that supposed to mean though?
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>>52997466
It probably means someone is evil back in town, or in your party. The evil person being the fox.
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>>52997501
But who was the old man? I don't understand everything suddenly stopping.
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>>52997519
Probably some kind of GM messing around with you to deliver a message. I don't have all the answers anon just most of them. It all probably stopped so only you would hear the message and no one else who might have been listening or watching.
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Are there any ways to get additional swift actions in PF?
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>>52997653
your best bet is finding a way to reduce your swift action into a free action.
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>>52997653
No, the best you can usually do is buy something down further to being an immediate action (no need to wait for your turn) or free action (can do it whenever, without spending an action).
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>>52997673
>Free action
Whenever, ON YOUR TURN, remember.

To be done offturn, an action needs to be either an Immediate, or a Nonaction.
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>>52997653
Gambler Kineticist 20 is about it.
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>>52997653
The spell Borrowed Time grants additional swift actions at the cost of Constitution damage.

The Corset of Delicate Moves allows you to convert a move action to a swift action once per day, but it cannot be used to cast spells or spell-like abilities.
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So my character's going to able to pull a roughly +80 break check and a carrying capacity in the millions. What kind of shenanigans can I get up to with this?
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>>52997775
you can break everything, and carry everything. What can't you get up to?
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>>52997775
Break time for extra actions in combat.
Carry other PCs' woes and sins to remove penalties from them.
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>>52997775
>+80 break
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>>52997775
Carry that weight
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>>52997748
The corset is perfect, thank you.
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>>52997825
It's been almost two and a half years since moot
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So /pfg/, your setting probably had big authority figures running around. Tell me, who do they go to when they need a matter 'taken care of'? Who is their Cleaner? Their Mad Dog? Have your PCs ever crossed a big player badly enough to warrant one of these guys sent after them?
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>>52997892
A few times. One was the lord's own monk. He had struck the three squishy members of the party with quivering palm and bent them to his will. Suffice to say, it was a fantastic session.
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>>52997892
I had a Vicegoddess (just an Empress) who was like 10 years old and cried to oniichan to punish the meanies.
the next campaign she's all grown up and basically ruined the new party financially even cross-borders by writing letters and telling chancellor-oneechan to pull strings, the party had trouble doing business at all with legit merchants
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>be a level 11 Witch mucking about in a generic dungeon
>DM suddenly tells us to roll perception
>everyone except the Fighter who has 0 points in perception rolls low
>okay
>ambush
>obviously
>a bunch of CR 8 skeletons but with +1 swords
>fine we can handle this
>a dread wraith pops out of the floor and touches me
>critical hit
>roll to save, roll a 1
>wraith rolls for CON drain, rolls an 8
>*2 for the critical hit
>only have 13 CON
>die
Okay
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>>52998015
>>*2 for the critical hit
Isn't that only leveldrain?
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>>52998015
what would have been a better kicker would be if it turned the creates it kills into undead so you could slay your friends.
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>>52998015
That's the kind of situation in which case a DM should fudge numbers, because >welp uded isn't fun for anyone.

>>52998033
No, ability damage/drain can crit too.
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>>52998042
>That's the kind of situation in which case a DM should fudge numbers, because >welp uded isn't fun for anyone.
Fuck that. If the dice rolls can only kill you when it doesn't hurt your feelings then you should go play Dungeon World.
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Are Apps for Overlewd going to be announced here like Blingmaker?
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>>52998049
So how would you react in this situation then, Mr TRUE GAMER?
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>>52997917
>a DM penis extension NPC who is 15th level but inexplicably serves someone as ultimately unimportant as a noble shows up and screws with the party
>fantastic session

I'm betting the only one having fun there was you stroking it under the table.
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>>52998073
You don't know how powerful the lord was. If he was an Archduke or something he could have people that strong on his payroll.
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>>52998037
Are you being ironic because that's exactly what happened
Knowing my luck, I rolled a 1 so I rose the next turn, killing the fighter too because he couldn't survive 2 CON drains and an arrow to the face before he even got to act
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>>52998064
Jeebus. Even with obvious ruse apps and blatantly incompetent Roll20 randoms, I think they've outpaced RotJR for sheer number of applications.
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>>52998073
Nah dude, it was a big tourney type adventure, and the lord had some major money riding on the fact the party had to throw the next fight. If they threw the fight they would lose the chance to speak with some dragon god the party worshiped.
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>>52998067
I'm level 11. I'm not retarded so I put aside money for a diamond and scroll to get ressurected with. I wait until after the fight and the rogue uses UMD's the scroll to wake me up. Plus we keep around restoration scrolls for the exact same reason to keep me standing after their ressurect me.
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>>52997468
Vult is an egomaniac
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>>52998073
>ultimately unimportant as a noble
>unimportant as a noble
>unimportant
If this noble is even duke class he is among the most important mortal men you'll ever meet. If you're a Wizard this guy has enough money to buy every spell on the spell list three times over and still enough left to eat six glorious meals a day.
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>>52998115
Not him but that was a TPK. We lost the Witch and the Fighter literally the first round and there were 4 CR 8s and one CR 11 pincering the other two.
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>>52998115
The material component is used in the creation of the scroll, boyo.
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>>52998064
Hard to say--GM's a degenerate motherfucker, but he's actually fairly humble, comparatively speaking. Might just make a token post rather than making it a big event.

And I'm pretty sure he definitely doesn't have the time to run two more campaigns, so we're not going to see a repeat of RotJR.
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>>52997365
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75981/raining-oil-and-blood
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>>52998154
My GM has always run it as separating out expensive components from spell completions items and having to provide them on the spot. I don't know why but he says it's better this way.
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>>52998175
Ask why next time, cuz that's fucking stupid.
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How do you take on on a chuul?
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>>52998161
Wubu is a nice girl though
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>>52997468
>thinking Vult is awake at quarter to 3 in the morning on a week day
He's got Chevy's to work on
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>>52999064
Underwater or above?

Above is easy, reflex is lowest save and touch AC is always garbage. Rays, Firearms etc.

Don't let it get near anyone besides your big dumb fighter. Being paralyzed sucks.

Also, it has no climb skill. Higher ground does wonders here, even if you create it yourself.

Underwater, fuck if I know. My DM never puts us in underwater situations.
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Stat him, /pfg/
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>>52999660
Female/10.
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>>52997892
The town necromancers wife. She's a deadly bounty hunter with a hobby of tanning the skins of those she kills. They haven't run foul of her yet
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Is pfg finally dying? Did all the shitposting start driving people out?
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What kind of aasimar ancestry should an aasimar descended from a foo creature, like a foo fox, be?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/foo-creature-cr-1/

A generic aasimar?
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>>53000052

God, I hope so. Let us rot, or at least slumber until the Stars are right in August.
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>>53000115
Abe no Seimei not welcome
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How would you fix Rise of the Runelords and make it great again?
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>>53000883
It's already pretty great.
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>>53000566
Speaking of shitposting

PLD is back up to 5 players. The secret application process is over. You should have PMd Vult if you wanted in. The go-getters were the only ones on the table
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>>53000957
Nobody cares
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>>53001004
vult btfo
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>>53000957

Really really nobody cares.

Also who would have signed up for your Shitshow after you bragged about shittalking people who pmed you to get in?

Sad. You are a sad man. And your logs are shit as well. The biggest point of satisfaction? We talk all the time. You think I'm invisible on discord: but I don't need to be invisible when I only have to do what you're incapable of: keeping quiet and not gloating.
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>>52999206

Nah, he posts during work all the time. This game is negatively impacting his job.

Pathetic, really. He could be doing something worthwhile instead of his self indulgent bestiary braggartry.
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Well then who do you believe will end up in Rhusae?
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>>53001135
>Also who would have signed up for your Shitshow after you bragged about shittalking people who pmed you to get in?
What went so wrong in your life that you keep constructing this insane alternate reality?
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>>53001331

>look in discord

>Vult's typing right now


HAHAHAHAHA

Dude don't you have Chevy OEMs to design?
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>>53001364
>he doesnt shitpost from work
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What are the most exciting druid spells between levels 1 and 6?
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>>53001647
Other anon here
How do you think an Epic6 campaign would work in PF? And would /tg/ or /pfg/ be interested?
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>>53001647
like character level, or spell level?
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>>53001674
I'd bump it up to E8, but I might be interested depending on the rules, chargen, and campaign premise.
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>>53001674

Most of PFG seem to dislike non high powered, non anime shit.

But I'd be down.
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>>53001719
Character level, and I admit that was vague in retrospect. First through Third level spells.
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>>53001647
Entangle, annoy your melee based team mates to no end and provide nothing relevant to the team.
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>>53001414
The most delicious shitposts come from your desk, this is true.

And can we not shit on Vult, or any DM for that matter? If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. There's nothing constructive about calling the man "sad" or "pathetic."
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>>53001853
Can we shit on 1d3+1 instead
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High-level romp through the Abyss WHEN?
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>>53001864
>abyss
>romp
First: high levels don't romp though anything if they want to stay alive. One mistake and you are someone's mind slave for eternity.
Second: The Abyss is especially difficult to romp though,
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>>53001853
>And can we not shit on Vult, or any DM for that matter? If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all
They shit on us all the time. Why not spread the love?
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>>53001853

Maybe he should stop being sad and pathetic.
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>>53001858
Now I can see why so many Tien migrated to The Land of the Linnorm Kings.
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How come Pathfinder's got such a reputation for fetishes and erp and all that shit? I'm in a PF game and in an OSR game but it's the latter where all the wild nonhuman sex happens.
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>>53001975
Because there are several Paizo writers who unapologetically publish their fetish material. And that's not even getting into all the 3pp...
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>>53002006
3pp stuff isn't even fetishy unless you get into the legit pornographic stuff, but that exists everywhere.

That being said the devs are huge pervs. I believe it was said the initial draft of Rise of the Runelords was basically a snuff film in TTRPG format.
>>53001975
Here on /tg/. A mix of a good chunk of this general being shamless preverts and people that just hate pathfinder so they'll believe the most outlandish things said about the game.
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>>52996862
How do you go up two size categories? Even with permanence, Enlarge doesn't stack, right?
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>its like i don't need the other boards anymore
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>>53001731
Well, what I have now is set in generic fantasy, in one of the human kingdoms based loosely off Fable. Start off as a commoner bored out of the rear. Some low-low-level adventure hooks throughout the not-yet-city (a goblin, cat on the loose, etc). With some chargen together with the DM to get the PC's settled more in the starting village.

I have a few plots lying about, side-quests leading back to where I want the campaign to go, and intrigue in its place for if or when the players want to step in that direction, together with Orc Hordes in the west if they fancy a challenge. At level 6 letting players buy feats for 5k+ exp.

The things I want to focus on would be a 30/40/30 split between a generic fantasy story-line (preventing a war between allies), player-/character-goal fulfillment (mainly relating to things which I hope to talk about during chargen and 'session 0'). And finally knowing that your characters (and even your party) alone can't achieve that much, despite being above and beyond the capabilities of the normal folk, so the party would have to actually talk to one-another and discuss which character's goals they will chase so they realize that cooperation is needed. But that's just my hopes for the campaign.

I'm building it as a pet project and hope to play it with IRL friends, but sharing it (or even running it) here doesn't hurt anyone.
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>>53001888
You still ass blasted Vult told you to not ask for a cheat sheet to the application process?
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>>53002069
I goto would be the Resizer (mageknight archetype). Although alternatively, you could just take the Transformation (any Form) + Improved Transformation (Size Change) feats.
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>>53001853
>And can we not shit on Vult, or any DM for that matter? If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. There's nothing constructive about calling the man "sad" or "pathetic."
Why offer Vult any courtesy he doesn't offer us. The dude's a huge asshole who thinks his shit don't stink. He IS sad and the fact that he thinks he's better than anybody here makes him pretty damned pathetic. He's a shitter and the thread will be much better off when he eventually gets bootyblasted enough to withhold his game that nobody cares about.
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>>53002069
Expansion. Giant Form II also works.
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>>53000957
Who's the replacement?
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I'm looking into a Mounted Archer Hunter concept. Any pitfalls I should be aware of, mechanically?
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>>53002235
Because that's how civil society works? If you don't like the way a person does things, and they spit your politeness back in your face, you don't go down to their level and wrangle with the hog in their muck, you wipe off the slime and promptly ostracize them from the community - he'll find other people to talk to, but not you.

If he finds nobody wants to talk to him, and his posts go ignored, is that not a better incentive to improve than throwing shit right back at him?
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>>53002087
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>>53002304

Running him off will improve the community though.

We can have our cake and eat it.

Vult can't. He can either stop bragging or he can get shit on.
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>>53002065
>initial draft of Rise of the Runelords was basically a snuff film in TTRPG format.
explain further.
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So I'm play a Vigilante(warlock) in an up coming game that I've been told will have piracy themes, 4th level, pazio only.
Current idea is to play party support with the occasional melee/mystic bolt to support when spells aren't needed. I'm looking at the talents and figuring I'll take Renown, Safehouse, and Lethal Grace.

Any advice aside from don't play a warlock vigilante on future talent/spell/feat selections?
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>>53002177
I'm not even on the discord. Nor did I apply to PLD
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>>53002304
I'm willing to give everybody a modicum of respect at the beginning. They can earn more or lose that with their actions. Vult has done enough to lose that many times over.
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>>53002553
>Paizo only Warlock Vigilante

Suck your DM off so he lets you use Jollylock
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>>53002420
When you're on a Taiwanese Fishing Boat messageboard, any amount of attention is good attention.
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What kind of characters should wear a moustache?
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Reminder that Vult routinely shits on other people who have actually done nothing wrong.
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>>53002420
Please present your argument that Vult is an asshole. What has he actually done? Be specific.
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>>53002585
see >>53002582
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>>53002562
It always makes me laugh when somebody responds to people who think a game is shit with "you're just mad your app wasn't picked!" Most of us left that dumb shit behind in grade school.
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>>53002582
Who, when, and how?
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>>53002574
While I fully approve of Jolly and his work, and use it in my own games, this one is a no go for that.
The game is going to be a short thing, only level 4-6 so the scaling won't be a huge issue or insurmountable.
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>>53002580
Cavaliers, rogues and brawlers!
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>>53002602
Look through the Archive, its been posted before.
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>>53002601
How old do you think these people are mentally? That behavior shouldn't even surprise you.
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>>53002631
Post it again. Im not going through over a month of shit generals to find anonymous ranting
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>>53002601
There are a few people who that applies to though.
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>>53002602
Just one example and a real shame because Dragonborn DM is one of the nicest people I've run into around here:
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/52851413/#52865336
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>>53002656
Basically he's gone on attack on Broodie two separate times for doing basically fuck-all (not reading up 500 posts in the discord before trying to help once, and again for saying they build characters 'mechanics up'). This is in addition to his attention whoring in general, and the shitty way he's called out people in thread.

There's also the Dragonborn DM's story about him trying to shoehorn Aisha into their game and refusing to change a single element of the character. This was followed up by the Vult classic of public bitching about it!

There's more out there, I'm sure.
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>>53002698
Notably this same thread contains the rest of the shit posted here >>53002700
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>>53002672
And it's just as childish regardless of who's doing it. Sorry RotJR, Dragons and PLD, I'm not mad that I didn't get into a game I didn't apply to, I just think your games are shit and the memes they've spun off are toxic to this general.
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>>53002700

I like how Vult has had the gall to publicly shit on others when he's done the same.

Turnaround is the fairest play.
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>>53002748
He's a crybully, hypocrisy is part and parcel of the MO.
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>TFW Vult is probably firing up discord to complain about how the whole cabal is against him and his game
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>>53002553
>>53002624
You have my condolences then. You're going to be a gimped wizard if you try to focus on being a caster. You start with 2nd level spells, but you'll never get 3rds in your projected range so you're going to be missing most of the good support spells. The trait for Int-based UMD will likely be your friend. You'll probably want the generic wizard utility spells and a willingness to suck up that you'll suck hot shit. If the game is absolutely going to end at 6th, then you will probably be safe taking Arcane Strike as a feat rather than a talent.

If you decide to be a dirty humanfag to cover the feats for ranged combat, then picking up TWF instead of Rapid Shot would probably net about the same results and let you actually use the bolts in melee. You'll want to wait for 5th level to actually do that though, since that's when ALL your bolts start hitting touch. The benefits of Lethal Grace are dubious with Warlock compared to something like a Familiar or being able to store and use wands without holding them, but I can only assume this won't be a particularly high-op game so I won't knock it. At 5th, you're looking at (I assume) something like a single 1d6+4~ (Melee, P or S) against normal AC versus two 1d6+3's (Ranged, Energy) against touch. Make of that what you will.
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>>53002925
Actually wait, my math was slightly off. Those Mystic Bolts would be doing the same damage as an actual melee attack because you'd have Point-Blank Shot if fighting at range. That said, if the GM throws anything with energy resistances at you you're flat out dicked, so holding onto a longbow or backup melee weapon is still a good idea, especially since I can only assume you're going to have 10+ Str anyway.
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>>53002700
So you're saying he couldn't figure out what the point of a game was, after asking repeated questions, and got fed up because he wasn't getting anywhere?

Gosh, how horrible.
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>>53002999
t. Vult
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>>53002553
If you ever see a dual-hand-crossbows build guide you can thumb your nose at them. That's what you are, without half the feat investment! This is not a desirable goal, but fuck it you beat someone who was trying to be cool instead of optimal.
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>>53002999

Didn't Vult publicly insult someone for doing the exact same thing with PLD aka "he asked for a cheat sheet for a successful app"?
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Can a cleric be a spymaster?
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>>53003056
It happened again earlier in this very thread: >>53002177
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Does your party have a cool team name?
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>>53003086
No, but now I wonder what it would be if we did.
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>>53003086
We tried, but couldn't come up with anything good that everybody agreed to.
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>>53003056
That would be why we know about it, but he never named them.
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What's our Discord?
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>>53003086
They will. It's a setting staple.
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>>53003086

No, but if it comes up, I'm putting my vote on "Obsidian Shitters".
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>>53003086
Corwin's Minions.
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>>53002925
>>53002990
Thanks for the advice, about what I figured. And yea it's not a high-op game, more something to just shoot the shit with friends while getting together.

>>53003032
Poor cool guy wannabes.
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>>53003086
>tfw you can never join the daves, just by virtue of birth
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>>53002553
>>53003032
The one thing TWF ranged attacks has is the ability to use the TWF line AND Rapid Shot together, even if they're mostly analogous if you take one or the other. Enjoy that with your Medium BAB however you fucking can, though.
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>>53003086
I want to organize a party of Daves now.
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>>53003183
It's not the dave on your birth record that matters, it's the dave in your heart.
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>>53003183
>>53003208
>>53003213

>Party of Daves
>Not the Dominion of Doug
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>>53003136
https://discord.gg/QeHZp
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>>53003169
You're not gonna be doing anything fancy and exciting, but you'll still be at least passable. I might recommend taking a familiar, but that depends on how much you feel like having a little scout.
Still gonna be doing better than I am

If you take this >>53003206 anon's advice, then taking the Arcane Strike talent, while shit from a talent perspective, can free up your 3rd level feat as a human for Rapid Shot. At 5th you can then take TWF, and for a penalty of -4, fire THREE bolts against touch AC. They'll all do the same damage as well, since there's no ability score modifier to get halved by your offhand. You'll be totally fucked if you're trapped in melee range, and your attacks can only hit out to 30 ft, but heeeey, it's something!
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>>53003261
Should we start putting that link in the OP now?
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>>53003285
no. People can ask for it if they want it
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>>53003285
Hell no. Advertising for a toxic clique is the best way to kill this general.
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>>53003317

So yes?
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>>53003254
>not the Army of Arthurs
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>>53003362
>Party of Pauls
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I'm trying to make a ranger/fighter multiclass dwarf that throws axes and uses a polearm for a backup, level somewhere 8-12.

build tips? recommended feats?
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>>53003638
Anything but Harsk is my advice to you!
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>>53003677
yeah, but does he use a polearm?
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>>53003703
No, but he's a lvl 11 dwarf ranger iconic with no dex to damage on a crossbow and attacks once per turn. Also he killed a bunch of giants when he was lvl 1.
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>>53003703
see, that's you.
every fricken day that's you Mike.
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>>53003703
>>53003677
>>53003718
>>53003723
its actually kind of clever, lvl 5 Ranger/Fighter lets you get the axe bonus on both your polearm and your throwing axes, you dual stat Str/Dex then pump them to 18 each at 4 and 8. Str 18 Dex 18 Con 15 Wis 12 Int 10 Cha 5, Epic Point Buy
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>>53003718

Pretty sure he just got drunk and mistook a bunch of human commoners for giants. Would explain why he refuses to drink alcohol anymore.
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Would the Magus be a better class if it were a d10, Full BAB class that only had 4th level spellcasting, assuming there were other adjustments to account for this change?
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>>53003786
Feats
Quick Draw
Precise Shot
Two Weapon Fighting
Two Weapon Defense
Dodge
Lunge (for the polearm)

up in the air about the rest of them
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>>53003797
...No. I mean the whole problem with the class is that there is ONE way to build it well (shocking grasp), and then one meme build (frostbite).

But I guess it depends on what you mean by "other adjustments".
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>>53002273
I'd recommend a Nature Fang Druid over the Hunter. Same BAB, more feats, the option to do STR/WIS stupidity with Deadeye's Blessing, and full casting progression.
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>>53003859
Depends what he wants; Hunter has a much, much better pet, and can ransack the Ranger spell list (and some of those spells are really good: check out allfood)

plus, Hunter can teach it's companion Skirmisher Ranger Tricks, which is hilarious on so many levels.

Hunter is better for the better pet plus teamwork feats, while druid would be better for personal power.
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>>52996862

What Class/Race/Ethnicity combo has the finest asses?
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>>53003797
Give it more spells that are actually worthwhile
Maybe give it the ability to cast cantripized versions of spells as a swift action, so do 1d3 fire damage before swinging his sword so he actually feels like a gish
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>>53003994
The player/player/player combo
Players will make asses the size of universes if you let them
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>>53003797
>>53004014
I think the issue is the free attack when you cast a touch spell. Remove the free extra attack with a touch spell, let them cast spells without somatic components, and give them full BAB.
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>>53003994
>What Class/Race/Ethnicity combo has the finest asses?

Paladin/Tiefling (Demon-blooded)/Taldor.

Alternatively, Paladin/Aasimar (Angel-Blooded)/Land of the Linnorm Kings.
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>>53003994
Mwangi Barbarian
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>>53000921
But is it?
Is it really?
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Do Rangers lose their powers if they wear heavy armor?
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>As of now, Overlewd is closed to new applications. Polish up your characters as much or as little as you want between now and Friday night!
O shit waddup
someone applied with that Pathfinder orc
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>>53003844
The fact that there's only one build is entirely on Paizo willfully gimping all Dex-to-damage melee options besides Dervish Dance to not work with Spell Combat. Shocking Grasp being the "only spell" is a byproduct of Paizo being too lazy to actually publish alternatives/give Magus access to any alternatives. Something like Produce Flame exists and would fit the class well, even if "lol fire damage" means it would be a Frostbite-tier meme. Pool Strike could have just been part of the base class, the weapon abilities you can use shouldn't have been a fixed list, and Arcane Accuracy should have been a base class feature that had an Arcana to make it last for rounds/level.

Of course, that's also opinions entirely unrelated to the question of a full BAB take on the class, so take it with a grain of salt.
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>>53002434
I think there was a girl raped to death in the troll house in... that one part where you can find the taken soldiers in the troll house?
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>>53003994

Galtan Catfolk Expert.
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>>53004315
>mfw
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>>53003797
It'd be a better class if it were the Duskblade instead of the Duskblade -2, -4 against good spell selections.
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>>53004258
It must be hard being born with a vagina in Golarion
Alternatively I guess it's not that bad because ungodly handsome level 20s want to fuck you
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>>53004184

It is!
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>>53004390
No, see, the level 20s wanting to fuck you is the issue.
If you jump a bunch of levels from one of them, you're way way behind on WBL.

You need to stick to level (your level + 4)s who want to fuck you, so you have a manageable progression.
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>>53004258
Part 4, Hook Mountain Massacre.
That was basically where they pulled out the stops and said "Y'know what'd make for a neat adventure idea? The Hills Have Eyes, with a little Texas Chainsaw Massacre and some Cannibal Holocaust."

Rape, cannibalism, incest, necrophilia, mutilation, decorations made from human skin, you name it, ogres did it. The girl in question was raped to death by ogres, stuffed, and turned into a doll by one of them. I don't quite recall if that's the same instance as the ghost who has no legs because an ogre basically tore her apart while trying to rape her.

That's old, blatantly pervy Paizo. They pulled all their teeth out a long time ago, and turned in their balls to boot.
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>>53004258
>>53002434

I could've sworn it was a Nymph that was raped so thoroughly by a tribe of hill ogres that her entire lower half was turned into a ruin so broken it doesn't even show up on her ghost.
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>>53004462
Anon I am just a humble commoner
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>>53004477
Is that actually possible
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>>53004472
Why are ogres such assholes?
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>>53004501
A ghost's appearance tends to be the memory of the flesh.

What happens to a ghost if she doesn't want to remember what was done to her legs?

Or if she was living so long without legs that she couldn't remember anything but her life without them?
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>>53004501
That's the canon of the character, I think? The anon here >>53004472 referenced her when he mentioned the ghost with no legs, because that's what the Nymph was.

Also, Ogres are like 12 feet tall and hideously inbred, that's like a horse trying to ram itself in you.
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>>53004491
And if you get laid by a level 20, you'll be a humble mid-level commoner and thus expected to handle mid-level commoner encounters.
How are you going to do that without appropriate gear?
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>>53004555
>mid-level commoner encounters.
...giving a titjob and then vaginal?
I'm fairly certain a level 20 Commoner still gets dispatched with a single PWK
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>>53004390
>It must be hard being born with a vagina in Golarion
Depends on where you're born.

Varisia? Yeah, it kind of sucks. Brevoy? You're basically a woman in 1500s Poland, so it's sucky too. Qadira's nice though, as is Holomog.
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>>53004531
If I were the ghost I wouldn't want to remember anything about my body
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>>53004390

Never in my game, no matter how high my charisma is.
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>>53004472
Actually the ghost belonged to a druid nymph which was like a Fisher King.
The druid was in love with the leader of the Black Arrows, the order that keep the ogres and trolls of this area at bay.
Lady Lucrecia, a matriarch lamia and devout to Karzoug's cause, thought it would be prudent get rid both of him as they could interfere on her plans. The lamia needed the help of the Kreeg Clan, the strongest clan in the zone as well excellent blacksmiths, for forge weapons for a stone giant army.
Lucrecia seduced a spoiled rich kid which father send with the Black Arrows for put some discipline and common sense in his life.
The kid told Lucrecia everything about the Black Arrows, even when order's leader reunited with the nymph.
Since the lamia is also a sorceress it was piece of cake to come invisible at the ranger, touch him with an uncontrollable laughter spell and order his ogre thugs to seize the nymph and murderfuck her front of the poor man who couldn't stop laughing.
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>>53004575
>...giving a titjob and then vaginal?
Anon please, titjob would be a feat you get to be proficient at it, a real mid-level commoner encounter would be anal, which I'm saying with a touch of sincerity because the only sluts who are good at that got that way with plenty of experience.
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>>53004472
Old Paizo
>Sure, let's throw in some rape--ooh, and a torture dungeon!
>Oh hey, kytons look cool. Let's make them a whole outsider type and turn them into creepy S&M shit!
>And let's make this guy over here gay, sure--nobody's really doing that sort of thing, so it'll be interesting to make it a hot rumor around town
>Yeah, why aren't there rules for drugs? Better fix that real quick

New Paizo
>He tried to spy on her--without her permission! That's worse than rape!
>Oh my goddess those Taldans won't check their privilege I literally can't even
>Fuck you haters, the land of perfect immortal lesbians is not prejudiced, women can't be prejudiced
>I see you didn't include at least one struggling trans character and one obnoxiously gay character, don't you want to keep this job?
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>>53004555
You should get WBL if your fuckbuddy helps you out for the first encounter, or if they just give you a fraction of their loot. Alternatively the GM should scale your encounter to take into account your lack of WBL.
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>>53004660
>>He tried to spy on her--without her permission! That's worse than rape!
I don't think they tried to imply that. And honestly perving out on your little sister in the bath is still all kinds of fucked up.
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>>53004622
But I can't buy feats with money wish you could though, it'd make the fighter even shittier tho
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>>53004691
You could just offer to be their cumslut in exchange for not getting rekt
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>>53004710
Anon, you can buy proficiencies by getting that one Ioun Stone. You can get a a SECOND FEAT by adding 500 gp!
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>>53004691
But that's exactly the issue! You have to clear the next few encounters without that WBL because high-level fucking has no treasure.
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>>53004555

>When the dick so fine you gain +2 Charisma
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>>53004738
>some smashes your ioun stone
>suddenly the master warrior has no idea how to use their fucking weapon
That's fucking retarded and you know it.
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>>53004744
Your baby will probably be born at level 5
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>>53003086
The big girl with the eyepatch used to be a dude.
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>>53004615
>Ogre rape on nymph
>MFW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcDK4JeEOq8
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>>53004789
Please. The Japanese have been telling that tale for years.
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>>53004744
>You have to clear the next few encounters without that WBL because high-level fucking has no treasure

Some say love is a treasure.
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>>53004789
More like they broke her a new one.
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>>53004832
But does it give you attack and damage bonuses?
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>>53004832
The sticky white stuff (glowing with mythic power) that tastes like salty coins and milk is also a treasure
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>>53004771
The proficiency system classifying shitty weapons as Exotic, and the weapon focus feat tax, are both fucking retarded. What's one retarded solution to a retarded problem?
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>>53004814

Elves =/= Nymphs, personally it feels very WRONG for it to be a Nymph too, because I've always associated Nymphs with being these carefree, independent creatures wholly in charge of their own sexuality - the sort that can't be forced into it, you know what I'm saying?
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>>53004874
Well I mean.

It's rape, my man. That's kind of the point.
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>>53004707

Well, they used it as a vision that apparently is so horrible it forces you to save or suffer a debuff, and it's part of the segment covered by the infamous "trigger warning". Mixed with the rest of his visions, which range from pedestrian evil to just sad, and you get a incredibly unimpressive villain who they try so hard to get you to take seriously.
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>>53004771
>smashes
No nono noooo. You're not thinking about it right.

Enemy monk. They run in, empty hand disarm. The disarm steals the ioun stone. It's now orbiting the monk. Then the monk uses their lithe monk legs to GTFO with the ioun stone.

I once stole 17 ioun stones from a party over the course of the campaign with one particular monk. It got to the point where they wanted him dead more than the BBEG.
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>>53004660
>when you learn how one "DND IS SATAN" press release can bankrupt your company.
Smart decision honestly.
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>>53004913
I won't call them out on this because there's a spell that literally kills you dead because you believed you were killed by your worst nightmare.

>>53004873
To be completely fair the entire idea isn't that exotics have to be better, they just need to be exotic.

>>53004929
That's why they need to target the Japanese and Chinese audience, who don't give a shit and just find your mythological / daemonical references cool instead of triggering.
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>>53004909
I know, but the point I'm trying to make is nymphs always struck me (here we go with personal opinions) as a creature you can't rape - unless you're a god, of course, but rules don't exactly apply to gods.
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>>53004913
Wasn't it also because his mother beat him with a bladed whip for it.

I agree, Bazzy is a fucking sad, sad man though. Can't you "defeat" him by threatening to destroy a childhood momento he got from his late aunt or something. Dude just fucking crumples.
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>>53004995
nymphs were also always semidivine / minor gods in mythology so it figures
Hell most of the time Zeus was the one who flipped shit at people trying to lay hands on 'hands off' elves, I think it was like a huge crime to rape nymphs in the myths
Mind you Zeus was crazy strong so nobody could actually stop him
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>>53005028
>elves
nymphs but Alves are like nordic nymphs, kind of, anyway
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>>53004967
>To be completely fair the entire idea isn't that exotics have to be better, they just need to be exotic.

And to be completely fair the proficiency system is still completely retarded, and a single weapon proficiencies, even exotics, should be worth a trait at most. Fuck, humans can get Full Starknife AND Bladed Scarf Proficiencies for just a trait, and ANYONE can get Longswords for just a trait.
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>>53005013

Actually, that's a different character-a Chelaxian war hero, who kept it because it was pretty much the only good thing about his shitty childhood.

If I remember correctly, he kills himself after surrendering, unwilling to bear the shame for being defeated in such a manner.
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>>53005061
Martial classes should just get simple + 2-3 weapons of their choice as proficiencies
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>>53005070

And yet....the rebels are the good guys, right?

Right?
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>>53005117

Enjoy your mint tea, anon. I can only hope it was worth it.
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>>53005117
Yes. When you're opponents are literally worshiping and aiding the forces of evil they are.
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why are these bad dudes such pussies
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>>53005104
"All Martial Weapons" is fine and dandy, aside from Longbows not making any sense as being in that category. Exotics simply do not deserve the price tag they have.
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>>53005061
There's two issues, each of which being fixed would solve the other.

The first is that the simple-martial-exotic distinction comes off as silly because the weapons are mostly the same between brackets. Really, the only thing you can't get at simple is reach-disarm or reach-trip weapons. Other than that, it's all silly 1-damage or crit differences.
This would be fixed by making martial weapons noticeably better than simple weapons, and exotic weapons noticeably better than martial weapons.

The other issue is that access to higher proficiency weapons is very expensive. A feat to use ONE weapon type? That's just stupid.
The fix is to make MWP and EWP give all weapons of their type.
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>>53005167
Because evil is the pussy way to things.

Real men go the Neutral Route.
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>>53005167

It's an analogy for gamergate.

He's literally the archetype of what socjus people think "gamergaters" are.
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Don't hide it from me, /pfg/

Have any of your characters had children during the campaign?
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My house rules stick EWP and Weapon Focus together. I don't let my players have ioun stones though.
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>>53005199
>Have any of your characters had children during the campaign?
All of my characters die virgins
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>>53005173
>implying lances, bows, and glaives are used in the same way
Literally all of those can take years to actually get down
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>>53005197
...what?
Jesus you don't go outside much do you?
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>>53005212

It's not like he didn't try: but he's not genetically compatible with her.
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>>53005199
I'm foreverDM, ran 4 campaigns for the same group so far
All of them are the kids of the original party who tag along
Mind you it's incest kingdom down here
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>>53005221
>Level 10
>80 HP
>15 AC
u ded.
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>>53005212
But why?
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>>53005117
Sure, of course of course.
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>>53004919
That is hilarious you know. I just imagine a monk with a dozen ioun stones orbiting his head.
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>>53005264
A real hero is a virgin.
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>>53004738
>You can get a a SECOND FEAT by adding 500 gp!

Wayfinders work that way only if your GM declares they work that way. Method 1 isn't the default.

Plus cracked/inferior stones have only a CHANCE of activating in a Wayfinder.
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>>53005199
Technically yes, just not the traditional way.
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>>53005199
My character fathered 19 different bastards over a 2 year period in game. My GM had a system to determine pregnancy based on your character's and the partner's con. I was a hobgoblin alchemist with 30 constitution. It didn't much matter what my partner's con was at that point.
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>>53005180
>The fix is to make MWP and EWP give all weapons of their type.
That's also dumb for other reasons. Mainly thematic.

A better system is this.
>Half-Bab classes get simple weapons only
>3/4ths get one martial weapon groups/Choice of Exotic Weapons+Simple weapons
>Full BaB classes get 4 marital weapon groups/Exotic Weapons

You can exchange a weapon group for Weapon for the Weapon Focus feat.

It's rough, but how is that?
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>>53005199

Don't be ridiculous, anon. That's for AFTER the adventure, when they get married. You can't very well go tromping around the wilderness with her expecting, sharing a bedroll at night, drifting off to sleep in each other's arms and curled protectively around your unborn child, face to face and lips near touching, sharing each other's breath as the last thing you see before sleep takes you is her beautiful face.

It's just not feasible.
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>>53005309
gay
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>>53005309
Solid, except for how everybody and their mother is going to trade in all their spare weapon groups for weapon focus with the things they expect to actually use.

Hell, even the 1/2 BABers are going to ask "Can I trade simple weapon proficiency for a weapon focus?" if they know what they're doing.
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>tfw level 1
>tfw 32 hp
I feel sturdy
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>>53005309
The disparity between BABs is really steep, and only full BABs getting to skip the weapon focus tax is retarded. You're better off folding Weapon Focus into another feat entirely.
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>>53005357
how did you manage that
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>>53005357
how tho
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>>53005379
>>53005381
Probably a synth summoner
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Hi! I'm a Kobold! My job is to shoot stuff real good until it's dead so the party can collect its shiny stuff!

However, I don't know what class I can play to stay out of the fray and slay the shiny bad guys from long range without being made redundant due to Small ranged weapons being terrible!

Should I re-evaluate my choices or soldier on? If option 2, what classes do people recommend?
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>>53005379
>>53005381
Human Bloodrager.

18 Con + 2 Racial + 4 Bloodrage = 24

12 (base HD) + 7 (Con while raging) + 1 (FCB) + 3 (toughness ) + 6 (tribal scars) + 3 (bloodline familiar toad) = 32
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>>53005028

Nymphs also usually had River Gods as their fathers. You don't fuck with a River God.
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>>53005409
rethink your whole life
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>>53005409
Try being a sorc or something if you want to blast
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>>53005366
Keep weapon focus, but it also nets you weapon specializations effect when you hit the right BaB sans the fighter requirement.

Better?
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>>53005409
Myrmidon Trench Fighter. Get dex to damage and initiating.
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>>53005199

Yes, and my character took responsibility.
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>>53005409
Trench Fighter 3. Ask GM to let you use Intrigue Archetypes+Legendary Vigilantes and be a Trick Shot Sniper with heavy arms hero.
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>>53005212
Is this your fetish
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>>53005422
Jesus christ
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>>53005212
Same.
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>>53005409
Go for a Stalker with the Tempest Gale discipline.
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>>53005452
Fold in Weapon Versatility and Greater Weapon Focus after a certain BAB and I can see it actually being a decent standalone feat. Alternatively, +1 Damage rather than GWF and fold something else into GWF.
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>>53005212
>tfw I've met more male virgins in my campaigns than female
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>>53005632
You've met more male virgins period.
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>>53005676
Why are male virgins so much more common? I thought the media told us men are suave ladykillers and women are helpless before their wiles.
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>>53005736
10% of the men can get 50% of the women.
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>>53005736
Why are men stronger than women? It's just a biological tendency. Don't think too hard about it.
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>>53003962
>>53003859
Nature Fang might be better for pic related then
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Speaking of firearms, can you initiate Solar Wind maneuvers with firearms, or just Tempest Gale?
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>>53005774
>You will never ride a Red Elk
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>>53005736
Society has highly unrealistic standards of male attractiveness coupled with no ability to question these standards. I mean I'm not saying I'm not ugly, nor do I want to force people to find me attractive. I'm just saying women can question beauty standards where as it's not considered kosher for men to do the same.
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>>53005810
You can't also question men in nurturing positions like teaching, and the sad fact is this is one of those sexist habits everyone treats like a 1950s sexist habit, "oh it's wrong, but we can't do anything about it. Go back to making my alimony."
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>>53005810
>it's not considered kosher
What? Most women look like shit.
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>>53003086
The Reclaimers. All of their quests so far have revolved around either (1) clearing out monsters from somewhere to make it liveable again or (2) finding missing persons or property. It's basically a typical Cleric / Wizard / Fighter / Rogue party composition but they basically function like private investigators with pest extermination on the side.
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>>53005873
Yes, but that's generally seen as a tragedy or something that happens to the woman, that is if there's not some movement that's trying to get their brand of ugly labelled as beautiful too. For guys they've pretty much got like, a small handful of versions of what can be considered attractive, many of which are age locked to being either young or old.

>>53005794
> You will never get ridden by a Red Elk.
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>>53005873
I meant in general culture. What is called and unrealistic standard of beauty for women is called a power fantasy for men, something I've always found odd.

>>53005850
Or the fact that ever since I turned 16 I have to be terrified of interacting with children because people will look at me like I'm a pedophile. I don't understand. I don't even like kids but if I'm out for a jog and a kid playing in the park trips and starts crying I am treated like a predator if I show concern.
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Where do you start worldbuilding when creating a setting?
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>>53005736
>Why are male virgins so much more common?
If a man does not get into the game, he will simply not be approached. This is not necessarily due to unattractive or other unseemly features on his part. His lack of initiation appears to others as disinterest or rejection.

Now shut up and talk about pathfinder
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>>53005935
Start with a single city then move to the country it is in then a little about neighboring countries. I generally keep players to one nation rather then globetrotting as one country or even one city gives a more satisfactory experience.
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>>53005935
With the question "what do my players want to accomplish?"

Because otherwise you are wasting your time.
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>>53005935
The Creation of the world
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>>53005916

It's tragedy how fat chicks are fighting a war against themselves, "these industries are anti-curvy" is just another way to say, "we look like shit in these bikinis, but we don't wear them because the company hates us."
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>>53005935
Fashion.
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>>53005916
>Yes, but that's generally seen as a tragedy or something that happens to the woman, that is if there's not some movement that's trying to get their brand of ugly labelled as beautiful too
Maybe for retards, 600 pound landwhales with the face of an ogre aren't going to get laid
I imagine it's a matter more of women being more picky with their partners in the way men are LESS picky. To most teenagers literally all that matters is a wet hole, meaning more or less all the boys in school are okay with getting laid. Doesn't work that way for women, but there's so many boys to choose from that at least a few of them got to be hot. Basically it's a question of availability.
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>>53005927
Try being a 25 year old man that loves children, have loved them since I volunteered for Sunday school throughout middle and high school, and I'm stuck in the same situation.
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>>53006009
Do you think we're going to see this happen in Blingmaker? There's only two men and four girls!
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>>53006030
In women liking kids is seen as a positive trait in men it's seen as a warning sign that they're a criminal.
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>>53006057
Two threesomes, one monogamous relationship and one harem, two hetero couples and one lesbian couple, or just a lot of really lucky NPCs.
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>>53006057
What if it was reversed? What would Genderbendermaker's party look like?
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>>53006057
What about LoB&F. Four women and two men.
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>>53006030
>>53006070
I don't get this, I love children and people around me have always considered that my best quality. I'm one of the first calls to watch kids.
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>>53006104
>Tall, busty girl!Andrik
>Shy nervous girl!Kyras who tries to pretend she's a ball-busting domme in public
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>>53006057
>>53006111
>Blingmaker has a mechanical element for marriages in the land of old fashioned monogamy
>LoBaF is set in a version of not-Arabia where men and women are both encouraged to polygamize
hm
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>>53006116
All of it depends what you look like too. I'm a heavy set guy with a beard. I think it's worse for me because of this, but without the beard my weak chin shows.

With the park example a kid tripped in front of my while I was jogging and began crying. I stopped and walked over to see if she had hurt herself and looked around to see if her mother was around. She was and had this look of horror on her face, came over and told me to stay away from her child. Honestly I was hurt. I just wanted to make sure the kid was alright.
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>>53006116
Depends on where you are. I find that the further north you go, the less present it is, while further south prejudices run rampant.

That's a general thing - there's always specific places that defy the convention, but it's what I've noticed.
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>>53006111
Each of the men takes two women, as is their right. Now, who goes where?
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>>53006116
Same here, it's frankly shocking how universal the hate towards children is from men my age when I visit other forums.

I think kids are great, and I absolutely want some when I find a woman I love, so why does it feel like this makes me unusual?
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>>53005927
>treated like a predator
I'm an older brother with two little siblings, one of which is special needs, and I had to nut up and take care of them partway through junior high. Showing concern/parenting is ingrained in me at this point, and gets me in the same situations. Part of what I found helps it making absolutely sure to look up and around then find the nearest other adult paying attention and ask very clearly. "Yours?" and if it's not, continue with "Who abandoned their child?" in that -I'm gonna start shit with child services if nobody claims them- tone of voice and expression. Then, almost first thing in any resulting conversation, I mention how I've got a special needs little brother and a little sister, then use it to commiserate and sympathize with whoever stepped forward as caretaker.
That's usually all it takes, and I'm a scarecrow of a white bald man with resting angry face, so it'll probably help you.

>>53006116
>>53006190
>>53006191
Location, appearance, how you're dressed, it all plays a big part. I'm frequently out with my wife and it helps a metric fuck ton to have a woman next to you who is also showing concern but taking cues from you. Mostly Southern California for my experiences.
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>>53006210
>>53006178
>>53006111
What are you guys talking about? LoB&F has 3 men/3 women.
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>>53006228
Well, Essa's a little buttboy so he counts as a woman.
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>>53006241
Essa is the most ruthless and business like of the lot. I'd more expect Essa to slit your throat rather than engage in romance.
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>>53006178
This is one of the unspoken rules of Kingmaker and one I figure will become a thing in Blingmaker.

You're expected to get married, and you're expected to have kids - the more the merrier, really. The timescale works for it too, since Book 2 can take up to a year, and 2-6 could last a decade.
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>>53006228
If someone told you three months ago that DHB would be playing a reverse trap in a /pfg/ game, how would you have responded?
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>>53006277
A cute reverse trap! With a bunny!
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>>53006263
That's fine, but Essa's still a buttboy. A person is just born that way, he can't help it.
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>>53006307
Essa was designed for anal.
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>>53006104
>Andrea: giant blonde farm girl turned holy Champion; earnest and kind.
>Kyrie: pure-hearted Tiefling that plays a cruel harpy villainess for a living. Enormous or Tiny tits, depending on who you ask.
>Antonio: Conniving necromancer who fucked his professor and ran away in disgrace
>Viktor: Redeemed, handsome bandit who desperately wants to be a hero
>Franz: Former Criminal turned Literal Nazi
>Branden: A slender, anime witchboi. Stupidly. Enormous. Cock.
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>>53006101

Personally? I don't see Antoinette or Franze being the marriage type, which means Branwen and Viviana have their pick of the men.
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>>53006355
>>53006307
>>53006304
>>53006277
What are Essa's fetishes /pfg/? Does she have an F-list?
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>>53006372

I think Kyras x Viviana would be absurdly cute. One is a good person trying to look bad, and the other is a bad person trying to become good.
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>>53006391
Branwen ALWAYS had her pick of the men, thank you!
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>>53006427
Anal, choking, pet play, light bondage
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How do I build this?
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>>53006439
>Implying Slow and Disk won't take up their usual roles as fuck buddies
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With the leadership feat and lots of time to craft lots and lots ofDreaming Death do you think it'd be feasible to get my underlings to spread the poison throughout a town? basically I'm playing an evil wizard necromancer who eventually wants to be kel'Thuzad and spread plague and raise entire armies of the dead.
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>>53006448
Weren't those Gamze's fetishes?
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Who's getting into Overlewd? apps are closed.
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>>53006579
That's typical? Give examples!
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>Decide to look for Pathfinder only text games
>Forgot to hide pay per play games
>The Legion of the Lost
>Wrath of the Righteous Abridged
Tell me those are joke/trolling games /pfg/
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>>53006589
Sounds like a fair thing to do. I would also work on securing a tower and using your magicks to fortify it.
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>>53006446
>Implying she can beat over 100 years of romantic and sexual experience, or the sweetness and poise of a Taldan half-Elf, or even the mind games of a very determined Issian.
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>>53006595
>>53006448
>>53006427
The two are more similar than you may think.
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>>53006613
Wrath of the Righteous... Abridged?
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>>53006613

>pay per play games

Please tell me you're joking
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>>53006652
No, I am not.
Someone at Roll20 thought this was a good idea.
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>>53006448
>>53006595
>>53006629
Essa giving, Gamze receiving
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>>53006620
gotta convince my dm to create a way I can make desecrate work with permanency until I can cast Cursed Earth.
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>>53006218
In other words it helps for them to think you have a minder or are only there to please the wife.
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>>53006650
At first thought it was going to be a spoof game but seems the Abridged stands for ignoring the two first books and jumping straight into the third one.
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75744/wrath-of-the-righteous-abridged

The Legion of the Lost seems to be done by a teenager by the premise alone:
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/74681/the-legion-of-the-lost
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>>53006709
But anon I find it sexier when a submissive, traditional girl teaches a strong tomboy the joy of being a masochist
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>>53006732
If all you take from that is the idea that it's only possible with a woman involved, and that you use those terms speaks volumes about why people might not want you near their children.
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>>53006772
I'm sure they'll be able to bond over that joy together when they end up as a gnoll tribe's comfort women
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>>53006724
there are magic items which create a desecrate effect if I recall.
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>>53006795
>>53006772
Gamze and Essa need to be mind broken.
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no one in this fucking thread is talking about pathfinder. wtf.
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Apparently Vult won't be posting anymore logs.

Mission accomplished team.
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>>52996862
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>>53006803
oh shit, really? Do you know any by chance? All my bonus wizard feats are going to be item creation.
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>>53006792
Oh they very, very much don't want me near their children. You're not wrong. You're not wrong at all.

You'd be hard-pressed to tell me which you'd rather have in the same room with them.

You see...

I'm with CPS.
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>>53006819
We're enlightened men, we have INT 1000000 because we know where true joy lies

>>53006837
>tfw wanted to read CORED
w/e/ I guess
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>>53006819
/pfg/ is by far the most dysfunctional general in whole /tg/
Is basically an autistic circle jerk, a symptom of how Paizo's fecal matter is on flames and going down, splattering burning feces covered in wriggling annelids as it does.
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>>53006873
then leave
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>>53006837

YAY

I like how he can't ever get over the Aisha thing though.

Did you see his tears earlier?

Like dude do some soul searching and heal, your dysfunctions are manifesting in a disgusting game and your compulsion to rub it in our noses constantly.

Like even now, he had to preface that "no more logs" with bragging.
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>>53006819
Post something worth talking about
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>>53006852
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>>53006890
Shit logs anyways desu.
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>>53006841
as they should be. If you want to be a good wizard villain you need item creation, minions, and metamagic.
you can use craft wondrous item to craft a desecrate trap
Craft Trap Rules
500gp x Spell level x caster level for automatic reset.
500*2*3=3000gp

The trap is set off by a 'visual' effect. You choose that effect to be 'light' and install a enchanted torch in the room.

The 'trap' automatically resets every round and is set off every round.

Permanent desecrate at 3rd level.

OR you can find a way to get a scroll of unhallow which functions for an entire year.
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>>53006877
I am back to /OSR/ general, you people can keep enjoying on your fucked up F-List /pol/ack tier bullshit campaigns for OCD rules lawyers with agoraphobia.
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>>53006627
Pure delusion. Men want furrows to plow, nothing more! Don't ascribe wisdom or discernment where it is not due!
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>>53006914
Sounds good
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>>53006914
>back to
Yes
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Post yfw DHB releases ERP logs.
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>>53006903
I don't think I'll have my own base at level 3 but yeah thats some creative thinking. Also, didnt know about unhallow.
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>>53006920

Branwen's furrows are loose and barren! Nobody wants to till that accursed earth underneath her stinging wit and glowering pride!
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>>53006941
I havn't had a good rape in a while.
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>>53006941
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>>53006814
No, they will be loved gently by their pick of the two male pcs
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>>53007009
>implying they aren't both lesbians

Gamze is Haleen-sexual and Essa is obviously a carpet muncher.
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>>53007029
Gamze definitely prefers men. Essa is a robot.
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anyone have any experience playing Evil characters? How do you deal with party members who disagree with you? I'm not worried about anything getting personal but this is the first time I've made an evil character and am in a party of mostly neutral aligned characters.
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>>53007061
>Essa is a robot
What do you mean?
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>>53006890
>You're an asshole! Look at what Sigh said!
>Well what the fuck did we say to each other anyways?
>Wait, that was totally legit frustration with him... right?
>discord generally agrees
>WHY CANT YOU GET OVER THE THING I JUST RUBBED IN YOUR FACE AGAIN VULT???
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>>53007082
Essa is a terminator
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>>53007066
wait for overlewd and see
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>>53007083
God you are autistic
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>>53007066
Slowly work your way into them. Don't straight out get to baby-killing. You want to make evil decisions that they start to see 'huh this sort of makes sense' or 'hmmn thats a lot more money than I thought'.
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>>53007066
Make it with a clear difference between in character and out of character, talk with the group, give and take suggestions on evil actions and see how they take it.
If you're with a good group and a good player, it can work wonderfully. One of my favorite evil characters was in a group that was otherwise good, and it turned to him just being the selfish one who didn't let anything get in his way with the sole exception of the feelings and trust of the few people he considered friends, aka, the group.
So while he wouldn't balk at breaking a prisoners legs so they couldn't run during the night, he'd hold off on actual torture because he knew it would upset his friend. Sorta like how you don't talk politics around your grandpa after his last heart attack, it's a politeness thing.
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>>53007104
Can you have sex with the terminator?
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>>53007066
>anyone have any experience playing Evil characters? How do you deal with party members who disagree with you? I'm not worried about anything getting personal but this is the first time I've made an evil character and am in a party of mostly neutral aligned characters.
Last time I did I killed the disagreeing PC in his sleep because I knew when the time came he would oppose me. Don't even feel bad, my character literally had Serial Killer as part of his class.
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>>53007066
I played an evil coward once who always deferred to party member's judgment without argument when they were around and quite liked being friends with them. If his opinion was ever brought up he'd instantly suggest the most straight forward way through a problem, which usually involved needless cruelty.

He constantly needed a babysitter if the group split up because despite being a full on team player on merit of friendship, the moment he had free rein over himself he'd leverage his character levels to do whatever caught his attention.
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>>53007173
Living tissue over a metal endoskeleton.
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>>53007205
thats how I see things more or less going. My character is more of a methodical and plotting type of evil than just a baby murdering psychopath. The dm had everyone do the first adventure solo and then we all meet as level two characters and im purposfully omitting parts of my backstory from them and by the time they realize exactly what it is i'm looking for and why I want it it's gonna be too late
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>>53007083

You're so fragile vult.

It's not very alpha.

Raping girls in fantasy won't heal your heart.
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>>53007340
>>53007340
>>53007340
>>53007340
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>>53006837
Great! Should we preemptively go after Blingmaker next?
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>>53007408
Honestly only shitty logs games that are obvious attentionwhores should be REMOVED

LoBaF, WWW, and other less meme tier campaigns have successfully avoided having annoying greentexts.
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>>53007066
It depends on the character. My Evil characters past have either belittled and insulted them, beaten and violated them, or politely accommodated them.
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>>53005199
A half elf character (5e, shame me all you wnat) of mine impregnated a female dragonborn noble and I had him retire as an adventurer to raise his children.

Outside of that no, my characters almost always have too low of a charisma stat for that sort of activity.
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