Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/els

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Repostan, how would this be for an allied unit?

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>Nyess
>Give tanks wounds
>Make tanks monstrous creatures
>While retaining AV
>Monstrous creatures should have been an Imperial theme all along

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>>52600316
This is now a Slaanesh thread.

>>52600316
Reminder that 'vehicles will get wounds in 8th' is an unfounded rumor based on laughably unreliable sources.

Do any of the original legions have explicit communist themes?

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Death Guard official release date when???

I hate waiting. REEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>52600345
THINGS WILL GET LOUD NOW

>>52600333
Monkeys are a fucking meme.

>>52600421
Can still hope

>>52600471
Are you kidding me? Every buff they provide is amazing, there is no way you are rolling snake eyes with two so why the fuck not? Also, they can be either a Lascannon, multi melta or heavy flamer. For 35 points its a steal. Shame about BS3 though.

>>52600465
I know you would think they would release more information by now.

I just got all my paint and first 2 units in and had a question for the base coat.

If you were painting a regular tactical normie marine in Salamanders colors could I use Caliban Green as my base coat instead of Abbaddon Black?
will this make my greens look any better? or will it make the golds for details too hard to paint?
this is first time painting a model so most everything I'm going on is just from youtube shit

>>52600763
Prime the models, if you want a darker green use black primer, white if you want lighter.

I'm betting you're misunderstanding how basecoats work.

For example, your green Salamander marine.
>prime it
>basecoat your main color
>give it a wash, preferably a green one like coelia greenshade, maybe a brown one if you want a darker/dirtier looking armor
>pick out details and highlight your main armor plates

Highlighting you can either do GW style edge highlighting or just highlight where the armor would naturally reflect light and/or shine.

>>52600471
Squad with HB-servitors, acolytes with storm bolters and 2 monkees will slap alot of shit at a discount price

>>52600881
my mistake, I meant to prime it in the dark green, not basecoat. I'll take your advice and just prime it in black (most of the guides I've seen are prime in black as well)

Without being that guy, is a balanced and fair Reaver loadout the Gatling Blaster, Apocalypse Missile Launcher, and the Laser Blaster?

I'm tempted to run two Laser Blasters but it seems douchey.

>>52600905
If you find the right shade of green primer and you have a fuckload of dudes it's not a bad idea.

It doesn't look as good as a traditional prime+basecoat, but it's a good way to paint a ton of dudes.

Starting my first army, CSM, and just got my Desolator box and termie lord. Trying to figure out what weapons to give them though, any tips?

Not played a game of 40k yet or properly read the rules so not entirely sure on what weapons are good for their cost and whether or not I should build a sorcerer (I already have a Chaos Lord from the DV box)

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Vectorized some Chaos Lord art and recoloured it for my legion, I think the colour scheme looks pretty good.

>>52600994
>CSM
>what weapons are good for their cost
None of them.

>>52601153
The owl lords are a hoot.

>>52600960
You are bringing a Reaver, other considerations are moot.

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What's their band name again?

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>>52601207
ayyyy

>>52601155

Shut the fuck up

>>52600994

You can have 1 special weapon per 5 man units of CSM or 1 special/1 heavy or 2 special for 10 man units.

Generally you don't want heavy weapons on regular CSM with how rules for heavy weapons work (can't accurately move and shoot). It's probably best to use either plasma guns or melta guns.

Sorcerers are really nice, you can pull some neat tricks with them.

You should check the MEGA archives in the OP for the rules. You'll need the main rulebook, the CSM codex, and you'll probably want the Traitor Legions supplement.

>tfw no earth caste waifu

GREATER GOOD
CONSUME ME

>>52601257
>Shut the fuck up
Don't act like CSM are just an inferior version of the Emperor's Finest.

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Do the Night Lords have a theme song??

>>52601230
2 thick 2 furious

>>52601447
Adam West Batman intro

it's the best anime opening of all time

>>52601423
So the emperor's finest don't have weapons that are worth it either then according to you, since they share the same weapons.

>>52601462
Don't feed garbage people.

>>52601461
If this is the cunt I think it is, do not encourage it

>>52601462
>Grav

>>52601462
Grav, Thunder Hammers and Stormshields, a bunch of HH-era shit that the loyalists 10K years removed have access to but not the guys who fought the war they were issued in yesterday.

>>52601470
>>52601472
>>52601482
So plasma and melta aren't worth it somehow?

The only reason they have so much shit is because of blatant favoritism; it makes 0 sense for the guys that left with heresy stuff to not have it.

Don't give me that "shit at maintenance" stuff, they've got reaper autocannons, infernal relics and contemptors.

CSM have the oldest codex right now, it may not be as bad as orks or tyranids, but GW really fucked the dog on this one.

>>52601482
Helbrutes can take thunder hammers.

>>52601447
Why are you back now after all this time? It has been peaceful here

>>52601472
Speaking of this, quick question: Wouldn't a model with no armor save be completely immune to grav weapons?

>>52600421
This rumor may come true if AoS Squats' transports are well received. Just sayin'

>>52601625
Nah, the Grav rules specifically say that models with no save are wounded on a 6.

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>>52600467
>>52600345
Bitches for the bitch throne!

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>>52601447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZlDZPYzfm4

>>52601639
more like your god is getting squatted

>>52601655
>haha le ebin slaanesh getting squatted maymay
kys

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>>52601655
WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

>>52601669
Dont
Feed
Gerbage
People

It's like throwing shit at rats, they'll just gobble it up and come back for more now they've identified a food source.

>>52600994

8th comes soon so I wouldn't worry about being very efficient with them.

In broad terms it's better to specialize a squad than it is to have generalists. Eg; a heavy bolter and a melta do not really go together because they are opposites as far as roles are concerned.

There are exceptions (if you know you're going to get swamped with low save bodies you could get a flamer/combi flamer to make them eat the overwatch) but in general you'll want to keep like with like.

>>52601230
Brick n the Bone 'eads

When is the Death guard dex/supplement expected to arrive? Was it just a rumor?

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>>52600316
Reposting one more time.

Have you guys had any fun games lately? Or have you been working on anything?

I'm still working on my army and learning the ropes. I've played 6 games so far and each time it was against a different army so I've been having a lot of fun learning what each army can do. I only remembered to take pictures as the start of the game, but I played 1850 against blue Orks yesterday.

Over all I lost 6 to 5, but it was a close game that we had to call on turn 4 due to him having to go. I think I would have won if we kept going because I was doing some serious damage all game and he only had a few units left, but my biggest mistake was forgetting about Linebreaker. I could have gotten a point and denied him a point as well had I remembered. The 30 man penal legion Conscript blob spent all game fighting a 10 man boy squad. Lots of whiffing on both of our parts and the Priest tanking 4++ re-rolls while simultaneously not hurting the Nob at all. That also cost me a point, but it was a fun combat.

Highlight of the game was my Demo Vets having a massive series of failures. First, I failed to cast Prescience on them, second I failed the ignore cover order, then I rolled all 2's for the Melta Guns and the Demo Charge scattered way off at 7 inches.

>>52601780
It was officially announced, not a rumour.
Release is probably in a few weeks by the timing.
May even go on preorder this coming weekend, but i wouldn't count on it.

>>52601447
Never play Simon says with the night haunter. It never ends well.

>>52601507
To be fair reapers are very reliable and easy to upkeep compared to an asscannon that has to have the entire barrel assembly replaced after each use.

Infernal relics kind of take care of themselves and the contemptors are probably the same guy from the HH stuck in there.

But I whole heartedly agree that chaos needs some cool toys.

>>52600967
Is there actually a difference? I airbrush mine with a solid basecoat without primer. That said it's silver so colour balance is less of an issue.

>>52601230
Why can't I imagine them talking like anything but Orks?

>>52601230
>Chimera is Max dakka Hbolter/Hbolter/Hstubber loadout
Yesssss gooooood. All the S5!

>>52601447
This is bait.

>>52601650
This isn't Linkin Park and so you have failed.

So is nobody mad about the OP image today? A week ago it was ridiculous lel

>>52600316
What happened to the Black Library link?

>>52602046
Why would we be mad about it? Crusader marines and SoB is an association Gw themselves make,

>>52602046
You get used to seeing trash after a while I suppose

>>52602046
No point.

It's impossible to avoid politics after what Drumfp did.

Under 1k Castellan with drop Scions and Dreads/Russ backbone. Y/N?

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The heirophant loses this match up, doesn't it?

What is the point of bio-titans, again???

I want to play as a irken. From invader zim. Could i use taus to do that? Or maybe space marines ?
What list should be good?

>>52602349
Tau and Tyranid army might work. It wouldn't be all that good but if you're just doing Casuals it shouldn't be too bad

>>52602349
What do YOU feel like Irkin warfare is exactly?

>>52602330
The heirophant most likely wins, it has the advantage both at range and in CC.

>>52602349
I'm leading towards Eldar for some reason. Irken tech seems to be pretty specialized in nature, highly mobile and generally rather fragile.

>build a Megadoomer to proxy a Wraithknight
>whenever you cast Invisibility on it replace the model with an Irken on a flying base with an extension lead

>>52602432

>goes second
>only has a 6++
>has to survive multiple D hits

Sssssuuuuuurrrrreeee

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>>52601841
>Be Jan Serveski
>Glorious bodyguard for platoon commander for melta for the glorious valhallan ice warrior, armed with glorious melta gun
>friend Boris Filipishizc is also has melta gun
>fighting rebellious guards
>we are attacked by 2 chimeras, one has veterans inside
>our vehicle approaches the choke point
>we fire our weapons at a chimera and managed to glance
>next turn the 2 enemy chimeras fire everyone they got at once, blowing our gun off and glancing us again
>despite the beating, we press on and we managed to get close enough to use our meltas, and we wrecked one of the chimeras
>the enemy chimera then uses their melta on us, 2 penetating hits, but somehow fails to blow us up. We emerged from the wreckage untouched.
>Boris has an idea
>tells us to charge the tank
>we charged towards the tank with our meltas to be heroes
>heroically, on top a crate, we fire both our melta guns, only a few feet away
>2 misses
>chimera tank processed to barbaque and send us to the emperor
>Boris killed us
>Fuck Boris

>>52602046
People were only mad about it because of /pol/lacks making new threads on page 4 with the same cancerous shitpost OP and dragging every thread down with their bullshit "discussions".

>>52602475
It strikes at I6 with 8 S10 AP2 attacks. Plus it shits out 12 S10 shots a turn in the shooting phase.

A knight can kill it, but probably won't.

>>52602330
The cost scales of those units are so dramatically different that it's hard to call it a "match up". The Hierophant costs 1000 points.

At range the Heirophant could plausibly shoot the knight to death without that much trouble. In close combat the Heirophant has 8 attacks at I5, so it can do pretty serious damage to it there too.

However it has no way to survive multiple strength D hits, so if it gets hit back it dies.

Basically Heirophants would be pretty okay if D weapons didn't exist and they cost 300 less points, or if they had proper invulns and their own strength D close combat weapons.

>>52602330
The fact that the Hive Fleet can shit out 10 Heirophants for half the resources by the time the Imperium has finished the years of rituals needed to sanctify the Knight Titan.

>>52602512
It also can survive the dreaded roll of a 6 on the d chart

>>52602525
>However it has no way to survive multiple strength D hits, so if it gets hit back it dies
It has 10 wounds which let it soak the 1 or 2 SD hits it'll probably take in this fight easily enough, they usually only do 2 wounds each on average.

>>52602525
Here is hoping 8th does away with strength D weapons and replaces them with something like d6 damage, or forgive me for saying it, d3 mortal wounds.

>>52602330
Ive seen this match up, the bio titan wins in one round of combat 2/3 of the time. The other 1/3, it won in the second round.

>>52602575
How the fuck are blast gonna work.
I'm worried about hitting now, like take battle cannon, the main thing about it is that'd it almost always hit even with scatter Cuz it's a large blasts. What would that translate to for a static hit roll? The army wide bs? Cuz 4+ to hit with a 1 shot weapon sucks ass
Maybe it'll make the vanquisher good again

>>52602525

One round of shooting from its biocannons only does 2 hull points on averagr

>>52602575
>replaces them with something like d6 damage, or forgive me for saying it, d3 mortal wounds.
For the most part it is that already, 2-5 on the "wound" roll is D3 wounds. Its just the 6+D6 wounds for a 6 that needs toning down, either just straight up 3 wounds or only D6 would be fine i reckon.

>>52602616
most likely it will be a single roll to hit, then D3 for small blast, and D6 for large

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Finally. My 1000pt Warband is assembled and actually WYSIWYG because fucking magnets. The only thing missing are rhinos, which are in the mail. However, I have stand in rhinos I can use in the meanwhile. If weather permits, I can prime and start painting a squad next week.

You guys reach a goal recently? Working towards one?

>>52602616
Probably something akin to roll to hit. If it hits it does 2d6 hits to the unit. I'm just guessing, and this should in no way be considered an educated guess I'm just pulling wild ass guesses here.

>>52602626
Killing a knight in 3 turns is acceptable.
The heirophant is a fast as the knight so can potentially just kite it.

In practice the way to go would be to wait as it comes to you shooting it in the first turn, then in the second turn move forward shoot and charge and you'll reliably kill the knight before it even gets to swing.

>>52602663

>baits you closer with the knight
>rapes your heirophant with grav

GG bugs Imperium always wins!

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俺が見たいのとちょっと違うな

>>52602495
BOOOORRRRRIIIIIISSSS *Immolated*

You're men are beautifully painted. You should post more often.

>>52602697
sick

Discord server for all things 40k, fantasy, sigmar and specialist games.

https://discord.gg/Zeh7nhC

>>52600967
There's gw spray primers that are in their basecoat colors.

>>52601841
GW Lexington, KY?

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>>52602739
Thanks man

Man I'm pissed, Shadow War is now released and is sold out! Went to the website that I buy GW stuff from, they have the game gone, go to GW... It tells me to go to there physical store while stocks last. FUCK YOU GW!

>>52602784
Goes to show that some paint is better than none.

>>52602820
>GW are bad because they made something people want

Relax dude, its not like you won't be able to get all the contents of the box seperately later.

>>52602097
>>52600316
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q Black library mega
Next person to create a thread include it into the list list please, thank you

>>52602836
You seen the price markup?!

>>52602845
Its miniatures, what do you expect.

>>52602845
And when they do another run on the box? Because obviously people want it so why wouldn't they?

>>52602650
That's pretty slick. I'm about to get the Betrayal at Calth and some FW stuff to make my Warband.

I've already gotten an airbrush and some tamiya paint to do a pre-heresy scheme alpha legion.

>>52602856
I didn't even have a 5-second chance of getting the set.

>>52602381
Very specialized. With lots of power. Thats why i thought about tau or terminators.

>>52602781
Those aren't primers. They are just rattlecans of paint for basecoating. The solvent from the propellant might bite into the plastic, but it won't grip it like primer would.

>>52602437
Thats sound pretty cool acttually

>>52602873
This run. There is likely a next run.

>>52602915

So, spray over a primer? I'm leery about a double spray.

>>52602650
I'm close to finishing a 1000pts blitzkrieg Iron Warriors CAD. It's been a long time coming, some infantry were basecoated 10 years ago and some stuff is brand new development like Panzer IV tanks and magnetizing special weapons. Your warband looks great. What's the next move, increase up to 1500?

>>52602616
AoS uses a d6 getting bigger by how many models are in the unit. Example, Brettonia has Trebuchets that get 2d6 hits if the unit numbers 10 or mode models

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SO /TG/

what is the verdict on DoW3 after the latest open beta streams

is shit as we all predicted, so shit that it cant hold a candle to DoW I and 2Ret?

>>52602954
It's moba trash, the evil faction is necrons, but the true final boss is the Imperial Guard

now fuck off

>>52602954
Looks good, the MOBA elements are well worked in, and i think its going to be fun

>>52602954
TERMI
NATOR
FRONT
FLIPS

>>52602954
I don't think is even possible to get an actual good answer in /tg/ seeing how easily hate and prejudice about everything root in here.

Personally, I'd have to play it.

>>52603019
or more like
>>52602954
>HOW THE FUCK SHOULD WE KNOW? WE HAVEN'T PLAYED IT!
You see people on the armageddon thread giving "list advice" to a game that haven't even played and isn't even out yet.

Really boggles my noggin' something special desu senpai.

>>52602954
I just want a DOW 1 with better graphics.

>>52603071
You want to just spam top units and r-click the enemy HQ?

>>52603098
kek Land Speeder rush wins 99% of games in DoW 1 it's not balanced.

>>52603098
It's fun so why not ?

>>52602637
So how would this be?

1 - 1 Wound
2-5 - D3 Wounds
6 - D3+3 Wounds.

>>52602782
Downers Grove IL GW.

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>tfw buying some Sisters to get my paint scheme sorted for plastics
>tfw plastics never come and I end up buying an all metal army

>>52601447
Ave Dominus Nox by Galaxy Aflame

>>52603192
enjoy your squatting loyalist scum

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>>52603192
>falling for the plastic sisters meme

>>52603192
Sisters are around the corner with a price cut and plastic

R8 my 2k alpha legion list (with friends)

[Alpha legion insurgency force detachment] 2000 All alpha legion get Shrouded first turn, re-roll warlord trait
[lord of the alpha legion]
Deamon prince, nurgle, lvl 3 spell familiar, wings, PA, hydra blade, gift of mutation 350
[Chaos warband]
lord,Termintor, chainfist mind veil 150

3 Terminators, power fists, combi plasma 137

5 marines, plasma gun, combi-plasma 100 Obsec, roll boons twice pick
5 marines,melta gun, CCW 93

Bikes, 2 meltaguns, combi-melta 100

helbrute, plasma cannon 110

[The lost and the damned]
dark apostal 105
cultists 60
cultists 60 use dark apostal LD whilst witin 6
cultists 60 , cultists re-spawn on a 3+
cultists 60

[Allied detachment: Iron warriors] FNP(6+)
Soc, levl 3, 110
oblits 70
oblits 70 Tank hunter (re-roll armour pen)
Havoks, lascannons, power axe 170
Sicarian, LC, AC 195

>>52600316
>that pic

i'd so waifu / fuck / marry the hell outta that young woman!

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>>52603192
this is you

qt but lacking in patience and self control

>>52602918

This is what it says on the GW store.
>This product will be released in stores on Saturday 8th April but is no longer available for pre-order here. Find your local store.

>Available while stocks last!

Good luck getting the game!

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Shadow-War-Armageddon-ENG

Sisters of Semen when?

>>52603299
BEGONE TZEENTCH

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>>52603299

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could i get some comments on this list? i'm new to SM and making lists. about to play my first match today with a buddy. casual stuff but i dont want to be making outright dumb decisions.

also, could anyone break down how chapter rules work?

>>52602495
Love it. Read it out loud with a thick Russian accent.

>>52602954
Still RTS garbage.

>>52603342
If you could fit two droppods for the devs you could run skyhammer if not those assault marines are kind of dead weight
As for chapter tactics you choose one per detachment i think so a cad could have one tactic and a formation could have another
Or at least i think thats how that works

>>52603098
this

i'll stick to playing my ghost town of a game that is DoW2 until a better RTS comes along. so what i'm saying is i'll be playing it until i'm dead.

>>52603384
oh yeah, i remember Skyhammer. where can i find that formation?

and thanks for the input!

Still trying to make a neat Castellans for my Guard using Scion troops as a base. Would Hatred Assault Marines actually be a good fast choice?

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a Horned Owls Chaos Dreadnought, or "Dreadhoot" as some dumbasses like to call it.

>>52603455
>"Dreadhoot" as some dumbasses like to call it.
Yeah it's a really bad pun.

I'm sure something better will com up soon.

>>52603435
Follow up question about the formation.
I know you can take vanilla marine and BT special characters and not Marines from other full codexes like DA or BA. Can you however run your Marines as other Chapter Approved chapters such as Raptors and Red Hunters or do they have to be generic/BT or bust?

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>>52603283
>tfw called my flgs and asked if they had SWA
>"sure, just one box though"
>ask if they could hold it for me until monday
>"yep"

About to go against 2,000 points of tzeench, including magnus, with 2,000 points of skitarii, custodes, and sisters of silence.

Wish me luck anons

>>52603518
You better hope someone left a note or something otherwise it could be sold already.

>>52603283
They went on their social media and said they're doing several runs though as supplies were gone the first day.

>>52603601
But 3rd party sites have removed it from their web pages. I get 404'd, meanwhile their main site has no info and does not list it as a web exclusive...

>>52603416
Angels of Death supplement

Nids need to be fucking nerfed

>>52603622
That their business. maybe they didn't want hundreds of backorders with no time frame to offer their customers.

>>52603320
0/10, would not bang. I mean, sure she's cute but there's just something.... off about her.

>>52603643
T. Butthurt babby blownout by flyrants

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>>52603649
found the witch

>>52603416
Don't run it with grav-devs unless you're either going competitive or hate having regular games.

>>52603649
its the forehead.

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My local gw has an immolator

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Well I got totally fucking destroyed in my first game where I played only IG

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>tfw the only GW in ireland is in dublin
Fucking dublin gets everything

>>52603852

>being Irish

>>52603845
Tell us how anon. What did your opponent play?

>>52603852
Geez, I'm in a small town in Virginia and we've got a store here.

>>52603632
appreciated

>>52603720
probably multi-meltas since the purpose of the devs was anti-MC/tanks

>>52603880
to be fair GW is based in america (I Think)

makes sense that the bulk of their stores would be there. I'm just buttmad that pretty much everything is in Dublin when it comes to Ireland, Comic Con, GW, Gunpla.

>>52603909
Wait I thought they were based in the UK? Or is that just where their offices are?

>>52603920
"Games Workshop Group PLC is a British miniature wargaming manufacturing company."

I was wrong, now I'm full of even more rage.

>>52603920
>>52603909
Their HQ is in Nottingham, UK but I'm not sure where they're based for (((tax))) purposes.

>>52603868
Deathguard with a Chaos Warband and three units of terminators that had the "annihilate target" formation
My shooting did jack shit against him because only Strength 10 AP2 weapons seemed to matter to his units, he just ate everything, teleported in his terminators and killed my guys

>>52603951
Oh jeez. He didn't use bikespam did he?

>>52603852
My closest GW is 230 miles south, over the national fucking border and the rules will be in German.

>>52603956
He doesn't have any bikes or heldrakes.

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Rate my Dark Angels shooty list

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>>52603236
pls die

>>52603880
Fellow Virginia anon, which store are you talking about? I live in Fairfax and we've got two GWs here

>>52604055
I'm in Staunton

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So I have a question /tg/. How to best counter admech when playing as CSM?

I haven't played for almost 2 years, so I'm a bit out of practice. Me and my opponent will be playing a 1500 points game, most likely a combination of kill points and tactical objectives.
I plan on using Traitor Legions Death Guard army, an all-around list with some plague marine squads, bikes, obliterators, autocannon havocs, etc. (MoN on everything).
I'm also using a nurgle sorcerer to fuck a bit with his shooting.

I don't know what my opponent's bringing other than that he's playing mechanicus (wchich I haven't played against before).
I don't want to be overly competetive, but at the same time I don't want to get tabled by turn 4 because I wasn't prepared to deal with a specific unit.

Any advice? Anything to look out for when playing against them? Help will be greatly appreciated.

>>52603845
>all grey plastic and bare metal
I like the fact that you're using old IG models, but at the same time I'm glad you got tabled.

>>52603951

>gettibg rolled by terminators

That is just sad

>>52604139
I just only got them this week, there's no way I could have painted them all even if I was crazy about painting.
Also I'm missing some paints I want to have for painting most of this stuff, and I don't know how I want to paint my infantry.
>>52604143
I mean the havoc squad with four or five missile launcher removed half of my infantry, then the terminators deep striked in front of my tanks and melta'd them and finished them in the assault, and then rolled all their 2+ saves and 5+ feel no pains so what the fuck can you do? They're all T5 or worse so lasguns can't do shit against them.

>>52604109
Best advice I can give is to go in hard and fast. The longer the game goes on, the more time he'll have to use all his +/- BS stuff to it's full effect.

If you can pull off quick assaults, he'll be stuck trying to decide if it's worth giving his other squads super high BS in exchange for making the others helpless in combat.

>>52604139

contain your autism

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Forgive the phone posting, first time player, putting together a small army for playing with more experienced friends at my LGS. Thoughts and critiques, I dont know much about army building.

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>>52604143
>underestimating tri-melta termicide

Your faces when you precious vindicators and leman russes cease to exist in a single turn: PRICELESS.

>>52604192

>implying i play anything but taudar

Enjoy your interceptor pie plate, chaos cuck

>>52604191
Try not to mix weapons on suits, missiles on sides are better than railgun and shield drones usually arent worth it.

>>52604171

Gotta spread your infantry out more if Blasts are wiping them out that badly

>>52604184
>If you can pull off quick assaults
Well I'm bringing a fist/claw nurgle fucklord on a bike along with 5 nurgle melta bikers, so who knows.
If I roll well on the psychic powers I can always just buff them and try Leeroy Jenkinsing my way into his lines.

>>52602933
It'd be no worse than multiple thin layers of paint.

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>>52604212
>implying anything tau/eldar have can survive 9 deep-striking meltaguns with rerolls

Stay mad weeaboo faggot.

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>>52600465

I know, right?

You can't wet my dick in mid-March, say nothing else, release White Dwarf April with no further mention.

At a fucking minimum, we're looking at a May release.

Probably to coincide with Warhammer Fest in the UK in late May.

I say this because here we have

>Livery of Corruption – Painting the Death Guard. Tips, tricks and ‘Eavy Metal Painting Demonstration of Death Guard Chaos Space Marines.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/02/eavy-metal-at-warhammer-fest/

>>52604224
Maybe so but there's only so much you can spread out while staying in coherency
And 5 blasts that can cover 4 guys still causes 20 hits and most of those are gonna wound
And it doesn't help that literally everything is AP5.

>>52604222
So what, two of the same on a suit, one weapon and two pieces of gear, or just twin-linked?

>>52604171

Should have bubblewrapped your tanks better. Also, next time ally in an ordos xenos inquisitor abd take 3 skull probes. Position the probes carefully and he will have to stay 12" away from the probes when deep striking, which will force them to stay out of charge and melta range from your tanks. Iirc ge us using that obe termie formation in Traitor Legions?

Anyway, you could also set up in a Refused Flank deployment and put all of yoyr army to one corner (remember, Ordinance doesnt care about models in the way!) Which would be safer as it doesnt look like he has any Template or blast weapons besides missiles, and in that case spread your infantry out more or start taking Chimeras to use as road blocks and mobile cover for other tanks.

Hope this helps.

>>52604253

>what is riptide wing
>what is early warning override

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So, thankfully the "new" imperial agents codex isn't replacing the old book, but I gotta ask.

Is it possible to still make the melee Warband squad of the old book, i.e. Deathcults, crusaders and such? I can't make sense of the books version, why on earth would you include a squad of acolytes if you are going for a melee warband with a limited number of transport capacity to fill?

Or have I missed something and the acolytes aren't a must include in that unit?

Acolytes have their place for sure but not in melee.

>>52604323
>what are friends
>that you'll never have
>because no one wants to play against you

>>52604298
I tried bubblewrapping them as well as I could but they all melted away. I'm actually hoping to turn my list into a veterans-in-chimeras list once I get enough money and willpower to buy more chimeras.
>>52604338
Yes you need to take a minimum amount of acolytes in a henchmen warband according to IA.

>>52604345

>its okay when I use this one power combo but not when you do it =^)

>>52604323
Today was actually the first game I saw with Tau in 7th edition. He had two riptides. Apparently his opponent (space wolves) only had one unit left by the end of turn 4.

>>52604291
I go two of the same weapon not twinlinked better chances than a single twinlinked weapon
Or you could go full guns and go a twinlinked and a single gun of the same kind

>>52604349

Chimeras will help a lot, both blocking lps and/or giving cover to your main tanks while also keeping those vets alive.

My bedt solution to deep strikers though is inquisitor with skull probes. It will do wonders for your list. Just shove the inquisitor in a chimera squad and let them shoot their conversion beamer from a fire point.

>>52604356
>comparing the some of the most OP mozzarella bullshit from one of the strongest codexes to a formation that makes an almost ork-lever bad army barely-competetive

Are Tau players really that deluded?

>>52604401
fucking typos everywhere, that's what I get for trying to post from a phone

>>52604349
>you need to take a minimum amount of acolytes in a henchmen warband according to IA.


Honestly shows how much thought was put into the clusterfuck that is IA.

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Thoughts for 1500 pts?

>>52604401

You dont even need riptide wing for that. Tau could also Retaliation Cadre + OSC and counter deep strike you, or wipe out most of your army before termies ever show up.

>>52604393
I'm not really all that worried about deep strikers to be honest. If his units weren't all death guard tough I could have taken his army.
Also I want to run a pure IG list.

My friend dislikes playing against my necron force. I usually go a non-Decurion list with some canoptek units and I’m getting a C’tan just because they look cool. He plays word bearers with deamon allies. He claims necrons are brokenly over powered and whines about them incessantly. Is he over reacting or am I being a dick?

>>52604236
hell, I ment to reply to >>52604172

So get to combat quickly, and try to make him waste his buffs and disrupt his battle line.

Anything else? Any particular units to specificaly watch out for?

>>52604439
Have him play against tau, eldar, space marines and daemons and see if hes still a little bitch against your crons

>>52604435

Suit yourself, but don't complain if you struggle against certain army types when ignoring your counter options to them. That is just how the game is nowadays. Allies or bust.

>>52604472
If I'd change anything I think I should have taken Leman Russ Demolishers against his troops.
And 6 infantry squads instead of 4 if I had the models.
Besides I think relying on allies is just bad form. I really hope 8th edition will tone it down.

Guys I just thought of something.
In the CSM codex, in the army list section, every CSM/Cult marine unit can take rhino as a dedicated transport.
HOWEVER, it doesn't say a *single* rhino (the number is not specified at least).
Could I, in theory, buy, say, 3 rhinos for a squad, wait for it to blow up, and then just make the squad enter another one?

>>52604447
The guy I play against doesn't have the most unit variety, though I would say the things to focus on would be the Onager dunecrawlers and any Vanguard he has. In my experience, Rangers struggle to do work with their guns, and I could only imagine it'd be worse for them if everything is toughness 5.

>>52604511
They say "take A rhino or A razorback."
so a single tank.

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>>52603828
Is that number under the "Sisters of Battle Immolator" lettering the price?

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>>52604533
MY PLAN IS RUINED NOW, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

eh, that's what I thought, it could've been a pretty cool army

oh well what is unbound :)

>>52604500

> I really hope 8th edition will tone it down.

I have some bad news for you, anon.

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>>52603828
>made in UK

every time

>>52604589
Yes?

>>52604597

Allies arent going anywhere. In fact, it will probably become a lot more fast and loose if AoS and Gathering Storm are any indication.

>>52604646
And here I thought people wanted to collect 40k because there was an actual game with rules and coherency behind it.

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>>52604571

Anybody have any idea what is contained in Games Workshop "goody bags" at the Store Birthdays?

You spend £30, £50, £100 and a goody bag is available at each spend level... any ideas? (If you wanted all 3 you need to spend £180 as it doesn't tally)

>>52604669

>coherency
>40k

>>52604669

I don't see why you would get bent put of shape over a more believable Imperial alliance.

Inquisitors and Space Wolves, now that might be more far fetched.

>>52604595

I'll have you know that metal was pulled from the fillings of London hobos and wrought by the finest English smiths.

>>52604748
I just like stricter army building restrictions.

>>52604774

FoC exists, formations exist. Even AoS requires a set number of Troops equivalents regardless of what formations you take; its arguably MORE restrictive against superfriend shenanigans and going outsude of your army book, because a lot of newer armies have strong incentives to stay pure.

Ignore the anon's scare tactics, Sigmarizing how the FoC and formations wirk would actually balance this a lot more. You wouldn't see any stupid shit like Knights+ Tyranids or Taudar anymore at least.

>>52604774

Too bad.

>>52604774

They still exist, there's just no reason to use them over the more flexible and powerful options with less restrictions. Here's hoping 8E fixes that, because the current armies seeing play is a bunch of retarded circus looking bullshit.

>>52603845
well, you are playing Guard without enough terrain to get cover from against Power-armor which doesnt care about cover against most of your weaponry.

Also you cant expect good rolls without having Dice in the colour of your Army since it is unpainted. In the worst case they have been forever condemned by the Dice-Gods and you will have to buy new ones after painting your army

>>52604850
My lasguns didn't get a single round of shooting. If anything there was too much cover for him. I had tons of AP3 and 2 shooting but he always got a 3/4+ cover save and feel no pain on top of it.

>>52604867

Use more ordinance and medusas

>>52604879
What does Ordnance have to do with it?

>>52603845

You should be putting the large buildings in the middle of the table instead of the right.

>>52604941
Yeah I'll remember this next time.
Although next weekend is an apocalypse game so I've already stopped caring.

>>52604894

Sorry, I meant Barrage weapons.

>>52604992
They don't ignore cover though? At least not in ruins because those are still area terrain.

>>52605006

Theb stop letting your opponent heap ruins on their side of the board.

>>52604378
One last question: should i go for the 2+ armor save and +1 Toughness on the commander with the irridium suit, or just a shield generator for 3+/4++?

>>52600333
Keep the acolytes to bolters and flak armor. Not worth investing anything else.

>>52605032
I actually build the board myself and I thought it was balanced

>>52605088
I hasten to add I have no idea what balanced is

>>52605102
LOS denial in middle, no taller than single story cover in middle of deployment zones, larger cover in corners where benefit if offset by outflank risk.

S'what my local scene deems fair anyways.

>>52605124

This basically.

>>52605059
Iridium for sure, the rest if you can afford it

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>>52605102

I like using this as a base, and you can rotate, add, subtract, or move around as you like. As long as the tables are symmetrical, but NOT mirrored, it should be okay. If it's mirrored, this skews one side, for example you put all the buildings on your right, and the opponent puts all the buildings on his left, this leaves the other half of the table completely bare. If you mirror it, you have buildings on your right, he has buildings on his right, it's better for gameplay.

You can also make various shapes with the terrain, as long as you mirror it it should be fine. You can put them in a cross, in an X, in an L shape, etc, you don't need to do one in middle and one in every corner. You can remove your left corner and opponent removes left corner for example.

If the opponent can see 50% or more of your opponent's deployment zone from ANY POINT at ground level in your own deployment zone, the board will be too difficult for melee armies and too good for shooting. If you can see less than 33% of your opponent's deployment zone, this is pretty dense terrain and while still a good play, will handicap shooting armies that use LoS and will provide more advantage for melee armies, and especially jump or jet units.

>>52605244
>those huge open areas
Have fun getting sniped, that's no way enough LoS blocking terrain.

>>52600994
Depends on how you want to build them and/or what legion you want to go with. If you want them to be shooty, give them a plasma gun, if you want to go with a gunline, give them a heavy bolter, and if you want to go in close in melee or to hurt vehicles and big things, give them a meltagun.

>>52602836
Nigga that box saves you approx $160 if we assume the rules are going to be $20.

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Thoughts?
How do you think this scheme would look better?

>>52605505
maybe put some gold trim on the armour so the gun matches better?

>>52605262
It's not drawn to scale.

>>52601650

>not fear of the dark

>>52605505
I kind of wanted the guns to be their own separate entity, much like how alot of marine bolters have red casings; They're made from a different material and are less durable than the armour they employ.
The orange after effect on the black armor was purely unintentional but do you think it'd look good to have a bit of rust here and there to break up the pure dark lacquered armor? They are deployed to a swamp so it'd make sense but it also goes against the fluff that instills the "It's been
swabbed.... and wiped. Everything
is clean. Beautiful. So that it
slides perfectly. Nice. Everything cleaned. Oiled. So that your action is beautiful. Smooth, Charlene." mentality

>getting back into 40k after years
>none of my flgs still do tabletop gaming, just boardgames and comics

Well this is depressing.

>>52605635
meant for >>52605527

>>52603342
This looks fine for a casual list. It's not too powerful, but that's not what a casual list should be looking for anyways.

There's too many chapter tactics to break down easily in 1 post, but in effect each chapter has their own super special rule. Each detachment must be made out of marines from the same chapter. So Ultramarines go with Ultramarines.

As for what the chapter tactics do, just refer to the codex. For the most part they are very straightforward.

Do you find you typically get 'better' opponents at GW stores or just ant old store? I've not played in a store in over 10 years. I feel like I've gotten older and don't want to deal with "that guy" anymore so typically just play with friends I know. But that gets stale and leads to games being few and far between. I went into my local store on their 40k night just to check it out and it was basically most of the players berating any army that wasn't theirs. There weren't a ton of players, maybe 10 or so, and most were partaking in this. There's a Warhammer store a bit further away, so I'm curious if it's worth checking out instead.

>>52605505
Not a big fan of the coat, a bit too bright. I'd darken it a bit more.

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Is it bad I really love Titans with shit tons of D weaponry? Like the idea we have the pinnacle of some tech just blasting the shit out of each other. I just want to see Turbo Lasers fucking everywhere.

I'm planing on buying a pair of Warhounds with three twin Turbo Lasers and a Plasma Blastgun or a Reaver with two Laser Blasters and a twin Turbo Laser because I think that equipment is just so fucking cool.

>>52605646
that makes sense. As for rust I dont think it'd make sense but perhaps you should have some form of trimming in a brown or red colour

Why is Macha of the eldar so popular?

wasnt she only in DoW1?

>>52605680
So you'd go from a bleached bone to more of a kommando khaki?
To iterate this isn't the Admech's planet that's I'm creating in my mind, more of a death world so the contrast could help?

>>52605505
Looks well, but maybe a bit boring.

>>52605749
I think the Khaki would be nice if you're looking to have your guys blend into a swampy environment better.

>>52603845
How well did the Baneblade do? I want to own one or 3 for the formation to use in Apoc someday and I'm considering the Hellhammer for cover heavy environments.

>>52601230
No Fat Chicks

>>52605837
It would have been dreamy if my opponent didn't have so much cover and feel no pain with T5/6. I actually just recently somehow ended up buying two of them, used. I kinda want to buy a third one to build one of the non-turreted variants.

>>52605824
There's beauty in simplicity anon, especially in a world of blues, reds and yellows.

>>52605676
In my experience and opinion.
Clubs>Independent Stores>GW's

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>>52605702

>>52602869

Calth is pretty great. I've gotten 2 because I couldn't pass up the price on either of them. The only thing I don't like it the lack of right arms that aren't bent across the chest. They're only used sgts, so you only get 3 in the box. I might be able to use a left hand if I cut it right, though.

>>52602937

Hey thanks.

>base coated 10 years ago
Yea, that's how my other army is. I'd say 75% of it is painted, maybe a little more, but I just kinda let it go. Now, I have a new and exciting thing.

After I finish this, I'm probably going to work on the 30k side of it, which inevitably bring me up in points anyway. I have a bunch of terminators I want to build, so I will probably swap the spawn for a TAF at some point, which makes for some fluffy Atramentar support. However, I have a daemon Prince, so going to 1500 isn't difficult. That's a Prince and a sorcerer really.

>>52605676
In my experience and opinion GW is wargamer kindergarten and at times (especially during summer) literal kindergarten for kids who's parents are tired of their shit.

>>52605398
Need opinions

>>52605966
My issue with Calth is combi-weapons. It's hard to find them for CSM, and I needed 4 combi-plasma for terminators, so i'll have to get a mk4 marine kit separate (i'll need it anyway for the marines)

Talk to me about assault Marines. Is it worth keep striking them outside of Skyhammer? Also would Hatred make them a more viable/cost effective melee force than teleporting Assault Termies?

>>52606196
NMFTE:
Not Meant For This Edition

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>>52605899
Sounds rough, but definitely possible to overcome next time. Getting a non-turret sounds like a good idea since more options and fun stuff like the Stormlord.

I personally want to at least own both a fixed and turret primary variants (if used) to field both a Stormsword and Baneblade just for that Apoc blast. Fielding them means using both of their 10" and that sounds deeply satisfying.

>>52605643
Hey at least you have one. The one in our town closed. I'm wondering about starting one myself since I'm pretty confident I could do it.

Does anyone have experience in what it is like to deal with GW as a resaler? What kind of margins do you get and will they sell to me if I want to try my hand with an online store first and no physical shop?

>>52606053
Would look out of place on 40k models.

Also, normally 40k cyberware disfigures the face but keeps the human silhouette, these heads have human faces but weird elongagted heads that make them look inhuman.

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>>52606316
As long as you have the paperwork to prove you are a proper company they don't really give a toss. I believe they sell at 50% of face value to 3rd party retailers.

>>52606316
I went in the other day and asked about tabletop gaming.
I got a "glad we don't do that anymore".

>>52606341
50%? Wow that's fucking amazing. I live in New Zealand and we have practically no GW shops and the discount online stores are abysmal, there are only a handful and most barely have any discount and the range sucks.

I'm pretty sure If I stocked a decent range and offered even maybe 10% there would be a fat amount of money in it.

>>52606318
Thats kinda what I was shooting for, something a little uncanny valley, almost like something out of system shock. They are going to be old pleasure world guardians that have malfunctioned

>>52606318
Do you have any recommendations?

>>52606250
Well lets assume I want to use them thematically. How much of an upgrade is Hatred? I honestly almost never assault.

>>52606196
Sometimes, in a demi company, if i cant fit a captain anywhere i take a jump chaplain with assault marines

>>52606380
That would be 50% for the base product sans shipping costs. I imagine the postage would fuck with your margins.

>>52606435
Is that shipped from the UK or from a warehouse in country?

>>52606380
>>52606341
IIRC they require you to be a brick and mortar store for full discount though.

So online only shops tend to get fucked.

>>52606426
Chaplains are pretty neat. Ideally Im still trying to find ways to make interesting, non necessarily good, Castellens under 1k. I figure some Red Hunter assault marines can make good warp charge denial engines by dropping ro racing at non HQ psykers like Zoanthropes and fucking their day up with Hatred. Retarded idea?

>>52606316
GW is/was said to be very bitchy, now somewhat less. Google, there is quite some tales of peopl who did it (and those who failed, read those too)
also these days, consider to sell stuff online, i.e. have a room/table for packaging things.

Most important RESEARCH!

>>52606453
From the UK, I highly doubt they have warehouses outside of Britain and possibly the States.

>>52606482
Their interpretation of actual store varies widely, Triple Helix operate out of an industrial estate and conduct 99% of their sales online. So renting a storage unit and setting that as your shop address should suffice.

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>>52606318
>Also, normally 40k cyberware disfigures the face but keeps the human silhouette, these heads have human faces but weird elongagted heads that make them look inhuman.

Admech bionics frequently distort their shape. Most tech-priests are barely recognisable as human.

>>52603283
GW manager said there would be 5 boxes that were coming to the store as first come first serve. Got up early and got there first. Only 4 others showed up so we all got what we wanted and then the guys with pre orders showed up. Just a room full of like 10 people all satisfied. It was great.

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>>52606256
are you me? cause i'm want to/am doing the same exact thing

(can't believe I dont have a pic of my stormsword

>>52606567
G R I M D E R P

>>52603210
>literally only one race has ever been squatted in 40k
>this meme continues

Tell me anon, is life hard when you're a dipshit?

>>52606545
Yeah, owning a physical shop would be the most fun IMO though.
Always been a dream of mine, show downstairs, gaming club upstairs.

But I know enough that have tried and failed, also I haven't the head for business and I'm terrible with money so I won't bother.

>>52606674
who was squatted?

>>52606567
So do you think the heads would be fitting or is there something more thematic out there?

>>52606732
Slaanesh

Do things like buffs work like ranged weapons where the entire unit has to be within the buff radius and receives a buff on a per unit basis

>>52605676
My GW is amazing. Everyone is nice and funny and play competitively or casually and are very flexible. There are always people there too.

>>52606849
It varies

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OK, rumour has it that the next loyalist primarch is going to be Russ. This seems very likely, since Space Wolves are probably either the most popular space marine chapter or the second and they obviously have some rather enthusiastic fans in the design studio.

How are the space wolves going to be tied into the ongoing plot? Now, I've got a kind of out-there theory...

We know that the SW were kind of the Emperor's personal enforcers among the legions and that they have some really weird shit going on with their gene seed. What if they were the first prototypes of his next generation chaos-resistant astartes? What if the wulfen aren't mutant freaks, but actually the intended product with a few flaws?

The emperor was hugely anti-religion, as a way of undermining the chaos gods. Why did he let the fenrisians keep their spirit-worshipping and allow wolf priests and shit in the space wolves? He must have known about them, so we can probably conclude that they really aren't sorcerors who worship warp entities.

Note how the wulfen models have armour which has obviously been designed to fit on their bodies. Who made that? Somewhere, there's a forge world producing wulfen armour.

Also, at the end of Wrath of Magnus, the grey knights and the inquisition both find out about the wulfen and don't do shit. Almost like they have information that these things which look like chaos mutated freaks are actually OK.

I think there's just an outside possibility that the new super-marines that have been rumoured are actually going to be derived from the wulfen.

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>>52606946

>>52602650
Got a World eaters army I'm gonna be working on making out of some MkIV marines from HH as well as some Bloodcrushers I'm gonna convert and run as bikes for Gorepack, after that it's a simple matter of just getting everything painted. Marines shouldn't be too bad, but the daemons I haven't decided how I want to do yet.

I was thinking of getting some SM, as I'm a bit bored with my CSM. I want to play alpha legion using loyalist rules
>Can anyone redpill me on scouts ? And/Or tell me about how to stuff them ?
I want to use a 10th company task force as a base, representing the infiltrated marines, so yeah, lots of scouts, I really need advice on them on the tabletop aspect
>Are Sternguard worth it ? How do you kit them ?
I plan on running 3 squads in Drop Pods, so I wanted to know whether I should run them bare bones or with some combis. I like my termicides but it seems very, very pricy to do the same thing with Sternguard, anyone use them ?

So I've been told that we're looking at June 10th for 8th Edition. Anyone else hear anything about that?

>>52606732
.....the squats

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Plastic sisters?

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>>52606086

Yea, you can never have enough combi. Forgeworld has seats of 15 combi (5 melta/plas/flame) that are fairly cheap, though I have a bunch of old style recasts, so for me it's finding arms. I really like the berserker arms because they're significantly bigger than normal CSM arms. I'm probably just going to order termi shoulders from a bits site or something.

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Be careful who you call ugly in middle school

>>52607485
Oh wow, those look pretty nice; I'll look into those.

>>52607498
Kek was that actually an old model of Magnus?

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I am lord fulgrim leader of the emperors children and demon lord to glorious slaanesh ask me anything

>>52607616
Fuck off the the RP thread.

>>52607523

The new ones are similar, but they have hands attached to them in order to use them with the new style from the plastic sets.

>>52607596
yes, but its epic i.e. far far smaller than 40k

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>>52607624
fuck my asshole

>>52606567
>Using Rogue Trader as a source material
Nigga nah

>>52607616
Why are you a snake?

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>>52607723
cause sneks are cool

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Awww yeah, just won my first real 1v1 game in like 10+ years.

Sisters of silence absolutely cucked magnus and all his psyker buddies. And the custodes did pretty serious work as well, taking out the terminators and tying magnus down while the skitarii mopped up all his tzaangors and belisarius vaporized ahriman with his solar laser.

Fun game, would play again.

>>52607775
>just won my first real 1v1 game in like 10+ years.
Not a lot of players in stralia?

>>52607794
Nope, just came back to the game. I used to play in middle school but just recently picked it back up.

>>52604439
Crons are good but a non-decurion isn't overpowered in the slightest. Word Bearers I can see him struggling, but it's not like he's facing against S tier armies.

Also good on you for getting a C'tan. I love mine even though they have never gotten their points back.

>>52607789
fuck man, am i the only fag who fully paints all his shit before i play?

looks cool though

>>52603138
That seems good.

>>52607933
Yes, probably
I just finished painting my first heavy bolter heavy weapon team
Only like 60 more infantry figures to go

>>52607933
go easy on me, I painted 1k points of skitarii in a week and I just got the talons box + the extras put together like two days ago. Couldn't really do much with just the painted guys because my store seems to play mostly 2,000 point games.

>>52607616
How does it feel, having a vagina ?

>>52607789
I play mono Slaanesh, so it's probably the fag in me talking.

But Am I the only one who think Magnus actully look better without the chest armor?

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>>52608013
like I have an empty whole wich constantly craves a long shaft or tongue more so someone's face to sit on

>>52608017
Nope, it supposedly even makes some ladies moist.

>>52608017
Na, his chest seems to have had more work and though put into it, chestpiece just looks busy and the horns like a last minute addition after the realised the art had 'em.

So I have a strategy