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Grognards eternally BTFO Edition
>Space marines are Ork Tier!
>It's impossible for there to be female space marines!
>Christ-Chan is a Nazi I need my safespace!
-an autist

>previous thread
>>52350875
Time for 8th edition and space marine fags are furious about it

>Hello grognard my old friend, I've come to laugh at you again, because the 40k rules changing, and is making it worth playing, but not for you cause your stuck living in the past, and that won't last, within the age of emprah
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>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android.
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>40k rules reference in wiki format.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQs.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>List organizer picture book
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>Offline list builder
https://battlescribe.net/

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
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>all these newfags getting triggered that new generals are being created at auto sage instead of when the thread falls off page 11
>they didn't know generals used to go up as soon as the old one auto-saged
>they didn't know we used to not even have generals
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You also made a thread without looking to see if another was made.

>>52350979
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Eldar have no place to go but down in 8th.
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>>52353471

That's what people said during 6th edition. What makes you think they won't just get yet another buff and set the bar yet again for the 3rd edition in a row, for a total of 7 editions out of 8?
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>>52353591
So much of this game has had rules that favor static gunlines; The removal of sweeping assaults, the removal of charging from outflank. As well as shooting during your enemy's turn. If 8th actually changes things to be a bit like before, then eldar will be tar pittable again until the elite units arrive for clean up.

Just hoping 8th changes things up.
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>>52353591
Formations might have a punishing tax.
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We need female space marines!
Also, they should have higher toughness than male ones for the same point cost.
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>>52354786
It's only fair after they were excluded for so long.
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>>52354786
Give me male, bara daemonettes and Sisters then
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>>52354810
Yeah, not to mention that females are naturally tougher than males.
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>>52353736

Eldar CAD is the strongest build.
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>>52354882
This.
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Anons, what do you think GW means by rewarding thematic armies?
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>>52354949
Something like maybe slightly reduced point costs for army compositions that make sense or special rules? That's all I can really think of.
Hopefully something good for my Thousand Sons
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>>52354949
They mean more decurions
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>>52354949
Fluffly Triptide and Wraithknight armies
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>>52354949
40k version of the Allegiance system from Age of Sigmar.
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>>52354906
>Let me head design in the next codex
>I only need 3 days to reinterpret armies anyway
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>>52353736
Formations cost points in AoS, it's likely that they will go back to costing points to field in 40k too.
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>>52353736

Eldar don't use formations in tourney play. Their formation bonuses are meh. Basic CAD with scatbikes and WK is all you ever see. It's marines that are cramming three different fucking formations in one list.
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>>52354882
It goes without saying that female space marines will master martial arts faster than their male counterparts.
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These have been some of the worst threads I've ever seen, at least cheetah anon was on topic.
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>>52356743
>grognard salt
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>>52354825
I'd be down for this. It would make in-world sense that at least some small percentage would appear that way, and give Slaaneshi daemons some more variety.
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You know what I actually miss more than anything for my Orkz is shoots Boyz. So damn expensive now, it was fun to bring shoots blobs and blow units off the table
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>>52354949
Everyone gets 3+invuln.
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>>52354949
Troops good again?
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>>52353119
I don't even play 40k and I know female space marines are a retarded idea. Aren't they supposed to be clones of the emperor?

The shit gets shitter.
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>>52356906
What did they change, I haven't played orks since fifth.
Was it big shootas which roll to determine how many times they shoot?
Did they get rid of warp guns?
I keenly felt ork dakka supremacy, especially with the end of death beetles.
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>>52356953
There are still forgotten chapters floating through space in hibernation. It'll be retconned those space marines will be all female legions.
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>>52353119
Good list?
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>deathguard models soon
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>>52356982
>It'll be retconned those space marines will be all female legions.
Excpet II and XI legions became part of XIII, sorry tumblr
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>>52356953
Where the fuck did you get the idea of them beeing clones?

There are no real reasons for there beeing no female space marines other than the fact that in Rogue Trader there weren't any.
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>>52357035
I'd like to see it painted.
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>>52357157
But they are clones of their primarch's. Says so in the HH series.

We'll get female marines when we get a female primarch. Never.
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>>52357171
Well, no they are not clones. They are strong regular humans that get implants and hormone treatments.

Also is the HH series really cannon?
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>>52357171
Why do clones of the primarch have to be male?

Liquid Snake wasn't exactly like Big Boss even though he was a clone.

X-23 is a female even though she's cloned from Wolverine.

There is unironically no real reason for there not to be female spess mehreens, and any excuse GW gives is retarded. They should have just said that the process used to make Space Marines simply shat out huge, bulky, hyper-masculine people, and some space marines might be women and you just don't know cause they're so overly-muscled and covered in armor.
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>>52357157
>There are no real reasons
Except fluff, also there is no purpose for female space marines
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>>52357192
>Why do clones of the primarch have to be male?
Because primarch's geneseed works only with the same gender.
>Liquid Snake wasn't exactly like Big Boss even though he was a clone.
>X-23 is a female even though she's cloned from Wolverine.
So what?
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>>52357221

Cloning of the opposite sex is possible for male to female, since men have an X chromosome.
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>>52357221
Why does it only work with the same gender?

Also they are not clones.

>>52357214
What fluff reason? And their purpose would be the same as male space marines.
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>>52357244
>Why does it only work with the same gender?
Because it's the part of their fluff
>And their purpose would be the same as male space marines.
So no particular reason just to push equality.
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>>52357252
You keep dodging the fact that they aren't clones.

And equality is a bad thing? It's not that much about it beeing a reason for it more like there is no real reason for there not to be female space marines other than some weird contrivance about it not working like that.
I mean there are women in the Astra Militarum so what's the problem?
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>>52357282
>now, why no female space marines?
There's an incompatibility according to fluff
>it doesn't work like that, even if the realm made by the writers with fantastical and unrealistic aspects and not completely realistic is written as such
That's all I see, every thread. Please stop this shitty forced meme.
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>>52357282
>You keep dodging the fact
How exactly I keep dodging the fact what was stated by other anon?
>And equality is a bad thing?
Yeah when it ruins good things (lore) for no real reason.
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>>52357344
My mistake then

Would the lore really be ruined by female space marines? Would you be unable to enjoy the stories knowing that some of the marines are women?

It's not like the incompatability reason is a huge chunk of the fluff that is tied to everything, it's a throwaway line explaining the fact that GW can't sculpt women.
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I'm looking for a program, or anything really, that can help me print out tokens in the various sizes of the 40k Bases.

Someone i know has been nagging me to start using Conjuration Psychic powers, and i wouldn't mind giving it a try.
So Tokens seem like the easiest way to go.
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>>52357373
>Would the lore really be ruined by female space marines? Would you be unable to enjoy the stories knowing that some of the marines are women?
Yes, because I didn't see any reason for female space, it will turn SM chapters into jokes from ForHonor or any other SJW bullshit.
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>>52357373
How new are you, anon? There's no reason to arbitrarily make some marines fenale when they've always been dudes for 20+ years.
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>>52357373
It would be everything space marines are not.

If everyone was clamoring so badly for fem SMs SoB would not be regulated to the new squats while squats are on their way back in.
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>>52357389
Ignoring the slippery slope, what would it take away from your experience?

>>52357391
>How new are you, anon?
Been on 4chan since 2007, and on /tg/ since 2009 I think. How is that relevant?
Well thay were arbitrarily only dudes from the begining, sure I don't think much would change if female marines became a thing but I see no reason not to do it.
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>>52357425
Let me rephrase that, how new are you to non D&D games?
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>>52357425
>but I see no reason not to do it.
Why don't we just nuke the setting while we are at it and make imperial guardsmen with power armor and initiative 5 orks.
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>>52357432
Only played D&D once and didn't like it.
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>>52357443
>Only played
>once

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>thread's already ruined by some fag talking about female marines for the millionth time
Stop. I just want to have one thread not get derailed and stay on topic. Please. Let us discuss something other than marines for once. I like marines, but lets do something else before inevitable derailment.
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Considering how fucked up "heroic scale" is, and how bad GW are at female faces it's not like anyone would know if they made them female.
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>>52357425
>what would it take away from your experience?
Anything what makes SM different from other sci-fi supersoldiers with multigender army structure.
So let me ask, why you're so obssessed with the idea of female space marines, does "male only" club in fictional universe hurs your sense of justice?
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>>52357425
>what would it take away from your experience?
Space marines are a male power fantasy. And feminism ruins every thing it touches
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>>52357452
Let's talk about how all sons of the Lion are the most loyal space marines found in the imperium of man.
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>>52357469
holy shit savage af but true a lot of the time.
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>>52357441
That leap makes no sence.
>>52357448
What?
>>52357466
Is that really the only thing making the different? That they are all male?
>>52357469
It's not about taking away male marines, it's about adding females. You can still have your power fantasy.
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What would a Space Marine with both Lion'el and Vulkan's geneseed and teachings act like?
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>>52357497
A bro tier EXTREMELY loyal fellow.
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>>52357495
You reek of nu male.


40k is the he-man woman haters club of table top gaming.

None of this shit will never happen.
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>>52357532
ever happen*

Sorry I am drunk painting and phone posting
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>>52357495
Let me rephrase my repharsement. How new are you to 40k?

Or are you a genuine, real deal, troll?
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>>52357495
>Is that really the only thing making the different? That they are all male?
Yep, it makes them interesting, classical warriors society bound by brotherhood bonds placed in grotesque sci-fi setting.
>it's about adding females.
For what purpose? Bring in game females in power armor? We already have Sisters of Battle, with their own unique aesthetic and fluff.
>You can still have your power fantasy.
>look guys I've added some shit on one half of the pie, but you can still eat the second half
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Would anyone like me to post some theories on Curze, or songs that suit the 8th Legion? (Night Lords). It has been a while, and new fags may want to know.
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>>52357495
Nigga, Space Marines are martial Monks in Spess, just like how SoB are martial Nuns in Spess. It wouldn't make sense to have them be female.
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>>52357495
Women cant into battle.
They can never be the best of the best.
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>>52357567
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP2NNhEPneU
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>>52357547
I've been playing since 4th edition. And I accuallly think that there is no reason not to have female space marines.
>>52357579
SoB are dead anyway.
>>52357566
Are you unable to enjoy yourself with women around?
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>>52357594
Pay attention to >>52357579. That's why SM are male only, because they're based off of monks.

>SoB are dead anyway.
Ah, so you're baiting, and have ruined a thread for your incessant posting of a meme that should die.
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>mfw fa/tg/uys failed to protect their hobby from SJW propaganda
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>>52357594
>SoB are dead anyway.
Gee I wonder why.
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Hey anons, how would you feel if I infiltrated my entire army?
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>>52357612
because of ugly models and bad rules?
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>>52357611
What has changed?


I don't see any SJW trash in 40k at all.
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>>52357617
>bad rules
I bet you're one of those retards that think SoB are Ork tier and have never actually read their rules. SoB are monobuild, but are most certainly high in the middle.

I'll give you that they have old and ugly models though.
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>>52357594
>Are you unable to enjoy yourself with women around?
Sort of yes, for the same reason why I play with male-only in football
Also, SJW stop evading my question
>why you're so obssessed with the idea of female space marines, does "male only" club in fictional universe hurs your sense of justice?
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>>52357616
I'll slap markerlights and riptides on your ass, I mean it.
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>>52357622
>I don't see any SJW trash in 40k at all.
Except 40k new playerbase: >>52357594
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>>52357594
But what does female Space Marines add? How are they improved? Is it solely for the purpose of equality (utterly hilarious that we're striving for equality in the grim darkness of the 41st millennium)?

I just don't see any benefit. So Female SM have a vagina, who gives a flying fuck. SM have always been male and male only, and adding female SM to practically sexless demigods of war just disrupts the lore already established for not justifiable reason other than 'equality'
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>>52357636
Except he prob does not even play the game.

Most likely some AoS shit baby.
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>>52357633
But what if I'm playing Orks?
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>>52357145
No they didn't, you utter mong.
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>>52357650
Then you always win.

Orks live to fight and die, die and fight.
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>>52357636

Also the new strong wimyn special characters and shiet in Gathering Storm
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>>52357655
>No they didn't
They were.
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>>52357660
I have always seen Ordo Xenos inquisitors as being the go to for fem inquisitors desu. And hereticus also.

not so much malleus
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>>52357650
>>52357658
Oh fuck, Farsight help me.
Um...I'll take Eldar allies?
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>>52357630
Then you should perhaps look into your problem with women.

I looked at the reasons for there not beeing female space marines and found them lacking. They felt like a poor justification rather than any accual reason. With so much other weird and fantastic stuff in the fluff why is this tiny detail such a no no?

Anyway I gotta go now, I'm not going to convince anyone here and you are not going to convince me. And experience has taught me to know when I'm unwanted. I'll leave now.
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>>52357655
The marines of the XI and II legions were rumoured to have been inducted into the XIII legion, though this has never been proven, it would explain the abnormal size of the legion at the time, having nearly twice as many marines as other legions that weren't the Dark Angels before the Rangdan Xenocides, nor the Word Bearers.
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>>52357642
I do though. I play orks, black templars, chaos space marines and dark eldar
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#52357685
>Templar player
>Wanting muh wymens mehrines

good joke.

go farm (You)s elsewhere please
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>>52355019
You get Warpflame on EVERYTHING, and enemy has to role two dices on it! He gets +2 FnP if he passes, obviously.
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>>52357679
>Then you should perhaps look into your problem with women.
Because I want to see knights not bunch of transgenders while googling pictures with knights of the round table?
>They felt like a poor justification rather than any accual reason.
Because..?
>With so much other weird and fantastic stuff in the fluff why is this tiny detail such a no no?
yes, because small detials makes things interesting and attractive.
>Anyway I gotta go now
hey, wait a second, where is the answer to question mr.Tumblr?
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>>52357642
Sorry, may be I am too pessimistic
>Most likely some AoS shit baby.
And looks like they are primar audience for GW now.
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>>52357663
No they weren't. The line you're referring to is an in universe conspiracy theory voiced by one random assed guardsman shooting the shit with another random assed guardsman in the 41st millennium. In other words it's complete bullshit and is literally one guy added two and eleven, getting thirteen and then thinking he's a genius. The smurfs during the HH were canonically so large because they could recruit from the 500 worlds, that and Guilliman is a real logistical genius. The author even confirmed that the line was intended to be a throwaway quip from a character and not some proof about the fate of the "lost" legions. Why is reading comprehension becoming a lost fucking art?
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>>52357497
What would be the worst combination of Primarchs geneseed and teachings?
>Inb4 Iron Warriors/Salamanders.
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>>52357627
>be long time SoB player
>go to new store for the first time
>find a game with some SM player
>oh you play Sisters? That's crazy
>a few newer players check them out because they've literally never seen them before
>how do they play?
>poorly, the SM player blurts with a chuckle
>herewego.jpg
>we get the table ready and I setup my armor column
>slowly grind him into dust over 5 turns
>notable moments include the exorcist getting cover against a podding grav squad thanks to an immolator flank, doms melting a bike squad, and my canoness butchering a Librarian in a challenge after he realized I had eternal warrior
>also props to Exorcist #2 who killed a single Marine after 3 turns of shooting. Well done.
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>>52357594
>Are you unable to enjoy yourself with women around?
women ruin hobby, how do you not know this?
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>>52357701
I'd double kill myself if that happened.
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>>52357373
>Would the lore really be ruined by female space marines
Ruined is a strong word. However the beakies are the knights templar come angelic super soldiers from the mythical past of a regressive fascist state. Having them be women waters down the picture. They're supposed to be archaic knights from the past. Not that half the /pol/-shit posters crying about female space marines get the actual reason.
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>>52357441
>make imperial guardsmen with power armor and initiative 5 orks.
Lord Solar Macharius and charging warbosses in most editions.
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>>52357845
You know what I mean.
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>>52357810
>Tfw part of the half that gets it
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I am buidling this thing but....
How the hell does the arm bolters work?
How does it even reload? It is not like there are small dudes haning around and reloading it for the castellax robot?
Is the model just dumb or is there some kind of an explanation for it?
I am considering just cutting the mags on the top and making them eject ports.
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>>52357897
Where are all the extra mags for the bolters that space marines carry?
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>>52357897
It doesnt reload till someone comes along and replaces the magazine, which could be a while.
Thankfuck it has a belt-fed on the back
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>tfw Stormboyz sprue has no Power Klaw
>the Nob Power Klaws from the Nob sprue are too big to look right, iirc
But i dont want to go bitz hunting fir a Ork Boy Nob PK.
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>>52357991
Wait, I think the Nob sprue Klaw might fit. Maybe.
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>>52354949
THIS:

Allegiances

Imperium of Man
Aeldari
Xenos
Chaos
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>>52357918
>>52357907

The belt feed is for the top heavy bolter, if someone does nto reload the arm bolters they each have max 10 rounds. Which is inconvievable.

Any thoughts on this /tg/
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>>52358169
My first and only thought here is that you need to type better, damn.
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>>52357750
World Eaters / Blood Angels
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>>52358169
>inconceivable.
i do not think that word means, what you think it means
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>>52357991
Green Stuff FU! Make your own.
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Having played Dark Crusade and SoulStorm, does the Imperium usually blow each other factions?
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>>52358046
>tfw an army of orks, tau and tyranids all work together
>tfw kek
>mfw this is already a thing
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>>52358179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxobNr6arzc

>>52358200

inconceivable
adjective
1.
not conceivable; unimaginable; unthinkable.
2.
unbelievable; incredible.

Inconceivable because no one would ever design something that has 10 rounds max and cant be reloaded without outside help.
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>>52358169
The mags eject. It lifts it's bolter to the shoulder baffle which lifts up and a new fresh mag is clicked into place. The arm then rotates down and gets back to business.
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>>52358232
>unimaginable; unthinkable.
and yet you imagined it, and believe it
funny that
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>>52358097
>>52358100
Is there anything interesting about 40k in april WD?
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>>52358242

Maybe i should write a mail about it to the Forgeworld, not that i think they will be able to answer it but their reply , if it comes will be entertaining atleast.
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What are the odds that a Custodes 'Start Collecting' box is introduced?
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>>52358100
Hey anon, any chance of putting up the prices up for the Sky Squats?
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>>52358228
you forgot necrons
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>>52354949
Bonuses for buying more models
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is the 8th ED gonna be the Ork Edition?
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What are good Spec/Heavy choices for Tactical squads? I was planning to do a Combi-Flamer sarge, with Flamer and Heavy bolter in the squad. Would it be better if everything's just Grav?
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>>52358302
Zilch.
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>>52358411
>heavy weapon and short ranged assult weapon in the same squad
why?
do plasma/cannon if you want to avoid grav, combat squad, and have a razor back with assult cannons
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>>52358414
Why? ;_;
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>>52358465
They'd be combat squaded, the Heavy Bolter half would sit back while the other half moves forward.
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>>52358489
Ahh okay okay. heavy bolter are kinda meh, but its not a total waste
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>>52358302

dude, they have just ONE FUKKIN UNIT.
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>>52357795
Ahahah, but anon, Chaos is fickle!
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>>52357655
did yo uever
EVER
open a book that contained actual 40k fluff
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>>52357786
SoB player here too. We had the same army for so long, that we have master it to absurd levels.

Then Eldar cheese shows up and out T3 girls melt faster than a feminist being sodomize
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>>52358506
Tempestus say hi.
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OH SHIT, WHO MOTHERFUCKING DEATH GUARD HERE?

DEATH GUARD HYPE!

MORTARION CONFIRMED!

DEATH GUARD RELEASE WHEN?

DEATH GUARD IN 7TH OR 8TH?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/23/news-from-the-plague-planet/
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>>52358614
The only way I could be less excited is if it was more Khorne shit.
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>>52358614
Glad you could join us, several days after the announcement.
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>>52358619

Wanted more Tau robots huh?

>>52358621

Been posting since announcement and I'll continue to post till release :^)
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Because two threads
>>52358653
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>>52358648
>Wanted more Tau robots huh?

Plastic Aspect Warriors actually.
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>>52358614
Sorry Emps Children. I will say Congrats. I'd pat you on the back but then I'd have to cut off my own hand because Nurgle.

But Congrats you lucky, bloated, half rotten bastard. I hope Pappa Nurgle Blesses you.
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>>52358614
>DG is already brutal enough with T6 bikers, FnP everywhere and Shrouded when shoot at from a far
>Now they will get more unique units, gear and rules, as well as a fucking Primarch

Congrats DG bro.
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>>52357192
It explains pretty clearly in codex space marines that the implantation process required for space marine production requires a male. The implants will not take in a female. They require a high test male.

Deal with it you multi gender freak.
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>OP contains the typical Grognard shit he has been using for page 5 threads for days
>devolves into a pile of dogshit full of "muh female marines" only a few dozen posts in
>last thread with normal OP was a regular thread

Why am I not surprised?
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>>52358712
Not them but...
So in other words the only reason is Testosterone? Something that could be added for the week needed for the proginoid gland to take over. After that, the Proginoid gland has taken over hormone production and mutated the body. So her body is now compatible with the rest of the implants.

Got it.

Only good excuse for no Female Space Marines is to Prevent Unauthorized Breeding and you know it. Emps just Jurassic Parked his super soldiers as a kill switch for when he was done with them.
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>>52358755
You seem to be lacking the part where they choose the best of a planets aspirants, so of course they are all going to be male.
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>>52358755
>So in other words the only reason is Testosterone?
A genetic biologist, you are not.
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>>52357282
Are you actually fucking retarded? The fluff is very clear that gene seed requires the male adolescent body to work. It is extremely clear that it uses and enhances male hormones. Are you insane or just a retard?

This is the established fluff. It is core to what makes a space marine a space marine. Sisters of battle exists for those who really, really care about the gender of their plastic soldiers.

If you are super keen on being a retarded sjw you can glue female heads on your marines and claim they are all "transgender" and put on wigs and pretend to be women after the transformation process. It's gay, but it fits in the fluff.

You clearly do not understand warhammer or the hobby. Please just fuck off back to the political hell hole you came from and let us neckbeard play with our army men. We don't want the politics you are selling.

>>>/out/
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>>52358564

has literally 3 different units inside, not even counting the command squad.
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>>52357425
But they're not "arbitrarily" dudes. Theyre dudes for a very clear reason.

Why do you hate the death of men having masculine warrior role Models? Do you perhaps hate men? Or Yourself?
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>>52357532
>40k is the he-man woman haters club of table top gaming.
But it's not even. There are plenty of great women both on the tabletop and in the fluff. He'll the LIVING SAINT is a main character in even recent fluff.

I actually think 40k has a very realistic and generous portrayal of women.
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>>52358797
Are you? IF you are then please let's hear why magic mutant making virus, that comes from an organ put into a person, and alters their hormone production and biology in 3 days wouldn't work if it's check sum against activation in a female body was spoofed?

Because my position is it is impossible because the Emperor wanted it that way. He wanted protection against Astartes replacing humanity. It's why Thunder Warriors died off, it's why all Primarchs were one sex, and why Space Marines are 1 sex.

>>52358807
You seem to be missing my point. I think Spaces Marines should be all male, but not for the bullshit reasons that GW states. They should just give the real reason. The Emperor spouted Technobabble so no one would try it, and he wanted them to die off after he was done with them. Best way to ensure that was to make sure they couldn't produce any new Astartes on their own.
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Anyone have an image of skitarii painted with purple cloth? I'm thinking that's how I want to paint mine but I'm having difficulties picturing it.
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Friendly reminder that any and all "Why no female Spess Mahreeens" posts are simply shitposts intended to agitate people and should be ignored for the good of the thread.
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>>52358755
I know that SJW have a limited understanding of biology but to cut a long story short.

No. Otherwise just testosterone.

If you think that is all that makes a man male, you need to go back to school.

Junior high at that.
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>>52358839
Yes, which is why we have a whole army of bad ass women. They're called the SoB and they kick fucking ass. And they deserve more attention.

Stop trying to change everything to cater to your personal tastes.
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>>52358821
Not that guy but
>masculine warrior role Models
Space Marines are an overexaggerated parody of masculinity. This is central to their character and the true reason they are all male. They're not fucking role models. Do you think the Imperium is an example of a perfect human society too?
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>>52358855
There's a pretty small YouTube channel called stolasJC that has violet AdMech.

His paint job's quality isn't really anything to write home about, but he has a purple color at least.
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>>52358755
>Only good excuse for no Female Space Marines is to Prevent Unauthorized Breeding
You really don't know anything about the lore, do you anon?
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>>52358878
Thanks man, that helps
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>>52358848
>You seem to be missing my point.
Oh not at all m80 I know your insidious fucking point very well. You want to seep your toxic fucking identity politics into a tabletop game with a majority male fan base as part of a wider political effort to ensure total saturation of your ideology in all media.

You are actually fucking evil. Cunts like you fucked video games and are trying to get into 40k and I am here to tell you that you are not fucking welcome.

Get the fuck out and never come back. Stop shitting up this thread and go circle jerk over identify politics with your race and gender obsessed mates.

Fuck off.
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>>52358894
You mean my Insidious agenda that Space Marines be all male? That we rework Sisters of battle to look more like battle nuns (like the ones made by Raging Heroes) and we make the Eldar look more like Celtic Pagans in Space?
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>>52358874
I disagree I think space marines are great role models. They live holy and dedicated lives and are paragons of one of the big 3 "P's" of manhood - protection.

They appeal to teenage boys especially because they are the ultimate protectors and the appeal to that deep male desire to be just that.
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>>52358910
Who the fuck is "we"?

You don't work for games workshop. You don't speak for anyone. You are an "I", no one is on your team.
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>>52358910
Leave.

>>>/pol/
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>>52358894
>get your egalitarian agenda outta here
>waaaaa you're evil

Holy shit dude, who gives a fuck.
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>>52358879
These people never do and even if you give them the exact lore reason why they just always, and I mean always without exceptio, "WELL IT SHOULD BE IGNORED OR CHANGED THEN" just to fit their own headcanon and agenda.
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Best i could do with the time I had /tg/ but still is very wip just wanted it to look decent for Adepticon today. But what are you lads up to? Doing any painting/building too?
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>>52358931
On my way to pick up green stuff sculpting tools to work on pic related.

Getting that shit to make for a decent metal piece will be pure fucking aids but oh well.
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What in the Emperor's name is going on in this thread?
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>>52358927
I give a fuck. It's not about egalitarianism. It's about pushing politics into an incredibly niche hobby in an effort to stamp out political opposition by removing all spaces where opposition could form.

Look at how trump is called "god emperor" by his supporters. Culturally 40k has been free of the modern leftist ideology and so has been a space for non-left opinions to develop. So these people want to make it a target. This is why subcultures like 40k and video games are targeted. It's a wider effort to ensure politician dominance.

This person may not fully understand what they are doing but it is actually one of the most subtle and disgusting forms of bigotry possible.

Let me make myself clear: this is a tabletop game about playing with plastic army men. This person's suggestion is purely political and so has no place on this board or in the game.

Again, female space marine tard. Get out.
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>>52358957
See >>52358714
Seems like the most accurate guess how this shit always ended up going ever since that guy started making the OPs.
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>>52358957
Heresy.

Request exterminatus. There is nothing to be gained from here.
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>>52358957
Grognards got their greasy hands on the SoS models and now want everything to be female.
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>>52358931
just built two boxes of skitarii foot troops yesterday, as well as a box of sisters of silence vigilators. Got a SC skitarii set coming in the mail tomorrow, as well as an age of sigmar starter box

Today, I don't think I have anything.

>>52358957
Ever since GW showed a lady Sigmarine some jackass autist has been shitposting about female space marines in literally every general.You're probably better off leaving for a couple days. I might as well.
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>>52357988
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>>52358957
Heresy. Please send both virus bombs and cyclonic torpedoes. We need both. Emperor save us.
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>>52358968
It's not politics if those are just people's values.

For fucks sake, quit fucking crying about peoples opinions on the internet, and go research your local legislature, town hall, and find out who your senators and Congress people are.

I know you won't do any of that, you're just gonna take the no resistance low road shitting up this thread with your fucking nonsense.

Nobody. Cares.
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>>52358991
Did the person that drew this ever do a SoB like he said he was going to?
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>>52358968
I don't think 40k is in danger. What SJW do to destroy IPs is infiltrate the companies via tumblr circlejerk referrals.
Then once the number of tumblr artists reaches critical mass they lore rape the setting to death.
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>>52358807
>triggered
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>>52358995
Wrong, people clearly care. Take your female space marine idea and shove it up your ass.
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>>52358913
They are kidnapped as children, brainwashed into total obedience, mentally and physically transformed into killing machines, and spend their entire lives fighting wars for the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable.

They appeal to teenage boys because their lives are very uncomplicated. Teenage boys have lots of things to worry about: getting a girlfriend, getting laid, being properly masculine, deciding what to do with your life... A Space Marine has none of that. No need to worry about girls and sex, you are as manly as a man can be, your life is dedicated to war and you are great at it, you have a community of battle brothers who support and respect you. Great escapism for a confused teenager.
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>>52358928
I don't think they should change the lore, accept to add the sentence at the end, "and that's what the emperor said." Or if they do change the lore say DNA. Hormones can be spoofed and wouldn't matter after the Progenoid is inserted. Once that happens it takes over hormone production so hormones become a moot point.

>>52358922
The main cultural themes of 40k are early Catholicism vs. Other Faiths. Craft World Eldar are clearly celtic Pagans. Necrons are Egyptian Polytheism, Tau are Atheism, and so on. Of course this I will admit is a theory but it is strongly backed by the art. Why shouldn't we play up these themes?
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>>52359002
Have you not noticed GWs recent sjw nods? The company has already been infiltrated.
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What thematic bonuses will my Iron Warriors get do you guys reckon?
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>>52358955
spooky scary
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>>52359023
Give examples. Because I'm 99% sure you're full of shit.
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>>52359021
You clearly do not understand the difference between sexes. Please hand in your high-school diploma at the nearest trash receptacle.
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>>52359023
The big clues are tumblr nose starts appearing on official art and disney/dreamworks style concept art.
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>>52359029
Players will begrudgingly defend allied deployment zones.
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>>52359029
if you take five or more vindicators they get IWND
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>>52359029
Extra terrain fortification or a free fortification or two wouldn't surprise me. Alternatively, upgraded vehicle armor or free Extra Armor upgrades would make sens and not be broken.
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>>52359037
This pretty much. He's probably one of those science denying "no biological differences between male and female" types
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Orks vs Nids vs Tau vs Necrons

who wins
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>>52359036
Recent white dwarf had a reply to a letter celebrating the appearance of black and Asian studio models.

Also those models were deliberately painted as different races - something only a race obsessed identify politics fag would care to do.

Female stormcast is also a good example though consistent with fluff.

Female inquisitor in terminator armor was a recent example tg lost its shit over.

I know the above examples are very small and i probably come across as petty here, but this is how it starts.
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>>52359040
>>52359045
>>52359047
I like it. Tank hunter on anything? I hope to god they make Havocs the "battleline" equivalent in Age of Sigmar
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>>52359062
they won't, at least not for a year or two

it also doesn't make any lick of sense for a legion to have troop choice havocs

if anything the legion would have 20 man bolter squads as troops, because it's fluffy.
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>>52359059
>Also those models were deliberately painted as different races
What the fuck does this even mean. There have been different races in warhammer art for years. Fucking Jonah Orion. Fucking Vulkan.

>Female stormcast
This is not SJW shit you moron. Are you seriously arguing there should be no female models whatsoever?

>Female inquisitor in terminator armor
Grefax is in power armor, not terminator armor. 3+
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>>52359037
Okay what am I missing? Y Chromesome is not in the lore as a reason. Hormones are. the organs are looking for the presence of only hormones no other check sum is involved in the lore.

If lore gave Y chromosome, or DNA as a reason that would be different, but it doesn't. It clearly states "Male Hormones" which is why my point on why male only stems from the Emperor wanting to make sure they Marines would die out like Thunder Warriors when his crusades were done and the Webway built, and humanity was safe enough that the guard could take over, and the marines became obsolete.

Why did he want them to die out and vanish? Because look back at history at all the warrior cultures that existed and what happened when there was protracted times of peace or they were ordered to disband? You had revolts and revolutions as they fought to become relevant again. No he wanted to be able to sweep them under the rug. Again, I think this is the most plausible theory. It isn't lore but from everything I've seen, it seems the most possible reason.

I have never called for a lore change, or a change to Marines, and I do NOT want female marines so stop putting those words in my mouth.
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>>52359059
>black and asian models
How is that SJW pandering? It never made sense to only have white dudes and black guys as models have been around for decades.

They were deliberately painted as different races because it makes sense for there to be different races.

Female Stormcast's armor looks like a fucking platekini, how is that SJW pandering?

Where exactly is the issue with a female Inquisitor in Terminator armor? It has also been part of the canon for ages and there have been many female Inquisitors over the years, what does Terminatir armor do that makes this case special, other than show a female in a masculine body suit like they've used them since forever?

If GW were to introduce openly LGBTQ characters you would have a reason to call SJW conspiracy but nothing you listed is anything special or new.
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>>52359101
>It never made sense to only have white dudes and black guys as models have been around for decades.
Found the sjw
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>>52359086
He's talking about that comic that people were losing their shit over because its depiction of Termi armor was so off (as usual).
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>>52359101
>only have white dudes and black guys as models have been around for decades.
So it changed only recently, and what in recent times has been trending and companies trying to get a benefit from?
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>>52359123
>So it changed only recently
You should re-read that post. And I say again, Jonah Orion and Vulkan would like a word with you.
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>>52359101
Because as you said. Prior to now they were all white or all black. Why change that if not for political reasons. They even acknowledge it was for "diversity" purposes with the WD letter reply.

The beauty of warhammer is they can be however you like. If you want so all black or all, white or mixed race army you can do what you want. There is no need for racial politics or gender politics to be an issue in a game where they are /your dudes/.

Like I said to the female space marines loser. If you want female marines, make them.

If you want it fluff compatible, get creative.

Sau your chapter recruits exclusively from an about an world where males look and act like females and they use that faggot fulgim's Geneseed or something.

Jesus I hate you people so much the fact this is even being discussed in and 40k thread proves my point fuck just let this thread die.
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>>52359123
There havent been any black models for decades dont take the sjw bait.
And why should a setting not be monorace not every setting has to be star trek.
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>>52359110
>galaxy spanning empire with trillions of inhabitants and billions of military companies
>100% of soldier models are white dudes when there's women soldiers and non-whites in fluff for years
Yes, makes total sense.
Do you also not remember that buff as fuck Catachan black dude?
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>>52359129
Salamanders and their Primarch are not ethnics. Jonah is a fucking third part invention.
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>>52359137
>There havent been any black models for decades
You're right. There also haven't been any white models. Just grey plastic.

Jesus christ.
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>>52359141
The models are not black you dickhead. That is a paintjob.
No it doesnt make sense for isolated founder communities to be multi ethnic you complete utter twat.
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>>52359137
This.

It's a game made in England, a white ethnic homeland. It's set 40000 years in the future and humanity is spacefaring. They also universally speak English. Why can't they be all white?

Also Jonas orion was a video game contrivance and salamanders are not actually negroids, their skin is just turned black from their systems star.
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>>52359156
>No it doesnt make sense for isolated founder communities to be multi ethnic you complete utter twat.
Explain how. Do you think they selected for the colony ships based on race? Are you dumb?
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>>52359144
This. So much this.

Advice to all reading this. If you see this identify politics bullshit happening at your local store go full autist and reeeeeee until they leave.

For the sake of your hobby do not tolerate this ideology. Remember what they did to video games.
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>>52359159
Its also in the lore the Emperor genetically engineered all of humanity to be like 20th century humans as he remembered them. All humans in the setting come from the same source.
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>>52359159
>It's set 40000 years in the future and humanity is spacefaring
This is the exact reason they aren't all white. The Emperor united the entire planet and set out to conquer the galaxy. Protip: black people are a part of that planet.
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>>52359163
A totalitarian nazi esque empire probably does select colony groups on race for the purpose of ensuring maximum unity.
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>>52359133
As you said, there have so far pretty much only been black and white models in official images, has been like that for ages. How does adding an asian model make it any worse?

I fully agree with the "no female SMs" statement and absolutely fucking hate the people constantly ruining each and every conversation with it and they should just neck themselves already. But having no Guardsmen in non-white colors and still no official female head bits for them is just lazy since both have been in fluff since its inception.
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>>52359163
The Emperor genetically engineered one breed of humans they exterminated multiethnic legacy humans like the Interex.
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>>52359182
Did it occur to you that blacks might have been exterminated some time between now and then? Or, more to your liking, that in 40000 years race would have Faded?
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>>52359182
No he didn't he took the diseased rememants of humanity and genetically engineered them to be 20th century ideal.
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>>52353119
>Crud
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>>52354786
>>52354810
>>52354882
>>52354918
>>52356212
(You)
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>>52359208
That has to be bait.

Terrans are known to be tanned in the HH. Not some bullshit image ideal that /pol/ wants to hamfist to justify shitty claims.
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>>52359200
Of course that could be the case but it is not the casw and never was.

Fuck, the Emperor himself is most likely created from African or Australian tribal shamans.

Granted, he's also the biggest mutant in the galaxy, but still.
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>>52359223
Oh ffs can we get a mod in here to ban this cunt seriously.
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>>52359223
Contrary to all the art, of course.
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>tfw no gf who like 40k
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>>52358996
Idk, but I happen to know the anon who did It, I could check.
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>>52359231
Yeah where is the "keep pol in pol" ban when you need It? Or is that only for people spouting right wing Opinions?

MOOOOOOT. GOOOOK MOOOOOOT.
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So, how long until these threads turn tolerable again? Guess it's a good time to get some painting done.

This is actually insane.

>>52359228
He was a turkroach

>>52359241
Please do. Hopefully you can find it before I check out of this thread forever
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So what's thw lore behind that weird black skinned mutant that is part of the Catachans? Is it some xenos that the silly jungle fighters don't recognize as such?
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>>52359159
>Why can't they be all white?
They can you faggot, just paint them whatever you want them to be. But stop telling others what they should do with the models you colossal asshole.
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People (sjw) don't know the lore of this setting.
The Emperor when he united humanity didn't have good stock. They were all degenerate mutants with cancer that were going extinct.
He went to his lab and created strong, healthy humans of noble character and appearance based on the 20th century.
(Actually the sinister implication is he might of literally replaced humans with his new humans)
This is where all Imperials come from.
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>>52359255
I'm actually the one advocating for people to do just that. Read up.
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>>52359248
Last thread was normal. Oddly enough, only the ones with this OP have consistently been this bad.
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>>52359254
Dark skin exists in the setting but its explained in scifi biology terms like overreacting pigmentation and junk like that.
Not as actual we wuz kangz in space.
Everyone in the setting is essentially a caucasianish human.
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>>52359268
What's the source on that?
At what point in the timeline did that happen?
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>>52359268
Did he specifically say white humans? Because a lot of people existed in the 20th century.
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>>52359287
Its the very beginning of the setting. Just imagine Mad Max Fury Road. That is what Emps had to work with.
This was explained in volume one of the Horus Heresy rulebooks.
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>>52359268
That entire post is true, however doesn't exclude having non-whites at all. In fact, by the 20th century blacks were already part of society in most countries and asians have always been treated decently by just about everyone. (By Asians I mean Japanese and China before it went to shit. Last time India and the middle east was relevant was before people even knew America existed.
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>>52359248
He said he will finish It tonight and post It.
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>>52359320
To be absolutely be lore truthful he wiped out every Empire on Earth. His humans were a new race.
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>>52359286
He has negro features and not caucasian features, though.

And the main difference on a non-features level between whites and black is the pigmentation.
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>>52359363
What was this on the Catachan rule book and box art?
Never noticed this you are imagining it.
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>MUH FASCIST SAFE SPACE
>MUH MISANDRY
>MUH OPPOSITION I PRETEND IS HEROIC
>MUH SJW BOOGEYMANLETTACKHELICOPTERKIN
>MUH "DYSTOPIAN FUTURE SCI-FI WAR SETTING" OR MUH PREFERRED DEUS VULT FANTASY UNIVERSE
>MUH GORILLION IRRELEVANT EXCUSES FOR PROTECTING MUH SAFE SPACE

Randroids & Red Pill rejects gb2 >>reddit

/pol/ stay in your cancer ward

Neckbeardoras, kys & leave in any order

Talk 40k, not your trigger-issues because you're fragile sensitive special snowflake turboniggers
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>>52359309
What about the billions/trillions of humans already spread across the galaxy at that point?
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>>52359349
That is nothing but a pure fan theory. None of that has been explicitly stated in fluff, while several races/ethnicities have been depicted in fluff for decades. There's always been blacks and the Khan even has asian features in most depictions, alongside his obvious mongolian depiction, riding and topknots and all.
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>>52359403
Don't blame ayn rand for this shit, she was staunchly anti racist and said so often and in no uncertain terms.
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>>52359403
Its cesspool, but i suspect it will be worse when DoW3 comes.
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>>52359393
>imagining it
Google Catachan Artwork and it'll be in the first few images, fucking hell.
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Because this thread is having a major bout of autism I say we all just post models and shit to help get the thread back on track.I also just have more pictures of my Shadowsword so why not.
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>B-b-but Emps designed new people so no more """inferiors""" T_T !!!!

Do you artists seriously not know the first goddamned thing about pigmentation? About how light approaches a planet, & will affect equatorials more than others? JFC you pretend-biology experts need a physics class.
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>>52359435
3rd image
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>>52359411
Noooooope.jpg there is only one Empire on Terra can you tell me why sonny?
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>>52357192
Also SoBs have always been the female Space Marines in every way.

Girls in power armour with bolters, can't get anymore marine
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>>52359449
>artists
kek
>>52359444
This thread is lost, hopefully the autistic OP lets someone who actually likes 40k make them in future.
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>>52359453
They all look the same and not negroid the lighter guys have fatter snozzes.
Guy these people are Catachans.
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>>52354825
Deali-o due to time constrains I can only give you half.
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>>52359423
>Randroid defends muh übernmensch matriarch of delusion

Kekels for shekels. Bitch literally thought non-whites who didn't industrialize their land had no claim to the place of their birth. If white man's burden isn't racist then nothing is.
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>>52359449
>race is skin tone
Well some a british tan darkly are they negroids?
>>
Why are there so many nog supremacists and people thinking this setting is star trek ffs piss off. You are as bad as the people who shit up LotR discussions.
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>>52359457
>t3
But yeah, the SoB are more or less the female equivalent.

>>52359483
Wow, that's quite a straw man. She said literally none of those things. Pretty much the core of her entire philosophy is the idea that no man on earth has the right to initiate the use of force against another, including wars for territory.

Educate yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdeI9NfbfT8
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>>52359540
What a pacifist bitch.
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>>52359540
>Also SoBs have always been the female Space Marines in every way.
>Girls in power armour with bolters, can't get anymore marine
They are fetish nuns and a disgrace for the game.
Fapbait is not equal representation. We need female characters that aren't seen through the male gaze.
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>>52359248
Here, have his Jun in these trying times.
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>>52359444
>Not drilling the barrels

reeeee
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>>52359239
>tfw my wife does
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>>52359309
>This was explained in volume one of the Horus Heresy rulebooks.
You'll have no problems citing that then.
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>>52359159
>It's a game made in England, a white ethnic homeland. It's set 40000 years in the future and humanity is spacefaring. They also universally speak English. Why can't they be all white?
Have you though about the fact that perhaps it's time we stopped making white-normative narratives in games and media? Especially after all the shit the white race has done against people of color around the world, no?
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>>52359580
>They are fetish nuns
This is you projecting your fetish onto them, nothing more.

I'm fairly certain the male gaze doesn't include inch thick power armor. Also, bait.
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>>52359600
Does she play tyranids?
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>>52359633
No this is a shit boring reason. Go play star trek or star wars. Not every fictional setting has to be identical. Enjoy variety it keeps you regular.
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>>52359633
any posts responding to this beyond my post is to be considered as 100% baited
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>>52359639
>Above average attractive face.
>Armor that mimics bodily proportions favored by current patriarchal beauty standards.
Yeah, male gaze.

"Bait" is a buzzword at this point.
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>>52359680
You're baiting though.
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>>52359641
Necrons.
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>>52359606
I found it for him

Reading that as a complete replacement of Terra's humans is quite a stretch. Also how the fuck would that replace all the humans that had already colonized the galaxy?
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>>52359712
Genocide
>>
yeah... fuck this thread, you guys have gone completely bonkers
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>>52359059
>Also those models were deliberately painted as different races - something only a race obsessed identify politics fag would care to do.

My guard have been multi-ethnic since I started collecting them fucking years ago, because I hate single biome planets in science fiction. The Imperium is made up of millions of planets with absurdly different environments that were often first colonised as much as 30,000 years ago.

It makes zero sense to me that the entire Imperium would be made up of a single phenotype.

>Female inquisitor in terminator armor was a recent example tg lost its shit over.

No, no-girls-allowed autists and /pol/lacks who's only interest in 40k is in fan-wanking about spehs fascism lost their shit over it. Anyone who's read through the fluff wasn't surprised or bothered, Inquisitors have always had access to power and terminator armour, along with other elite shit. Terminator armour was originally adapted from armoured suits that regular humans used for plasma reactor maintenance in the first place.

Hell, if Ordo Xenos can get it's hands on fucking conversion beamers, getting the Mechanicus to hand over a poxy suit of human-scaled terminator plate would be trivial.
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>>52359403
>Talk 40k
So, about:
>>MUH "DYSTOPIAN FUTURE SCI-FI WAR SETTING" OR MUH PREFERRED DEUS VULT FANTASY UNIVERSE
>>MUH GORILLION IRRELEVANT EXCUSES FOR PROTECTING MUH SAFE SPACE
Also, it's still better than your whinning about female marines
>>
>>52359733
quality post
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>>52359733
Quality bait biting.
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>>52359730
agreed. Honestly the mods should probably ban 40kg for a few days until people get a chance to calm down. Cooler heads prevail.
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>>52359725
Yeah, except that's never mentioned. Compliant worlds aren't purged and replaced.

Even if the Emperor did exterminate the population of Terra and replace it with nu-men (which we know he didn't), they'd still just be a tiny, tiny drop in the overall galactic human genepool and nowhere near enough to alter it.

This >>52359712 reads more like they developed gene-therapys to fix genetic damage.
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>>52359712
The Emperors new race is referred to elsewhere in the lore. Its the new man idea. He was the first new man to lead the psychic new man race.
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>Come home after a day in the city
>"I wonder what's brewing on /tg/."
>/pol/ infestation
Fuck this earth.
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>>52359777
Wroooong. HH is full of incidences of older human factions being exterminated.
Also no it says recreated. He recreated humanity.
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>>52359767
The mods have only done something about the cheetah faggot but not the other shitposters like grogfag. It's entirely on them.
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>>52359790
>>/pol/
Yeah sure
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>>52359725
So what you are saying is that the Great Crusade was really the Space Marine Legions going from planet to planet, genociding the entire population, and replacing them with fresh settles from Terra?

That's not what happened, here's just one example to prove you wrong.

>>52359782
Mankind awakening into a psychic race? Yeah, that's a different thing and has nothing to do with humanity being wiped out and replaced.
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>>52359777
Someone is inserting a lot of headcanon justification to get around the lore.
Guy it clearly says he recreated humanity. Fact. To an old ideal. Fact. They then went out and roflstomped old Empires like the Interex and spread his new people far and wide.
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>>52359591
I just got it Wednesday anon. But I will do it eventually.
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>>52359794
>HH is full of incidences of older human factions being exterminated.

Source then?
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>>52359826
Nope.jpg Emperors new race is referred to as his psychic race
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>>52359057
Necrons
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>>52359840
>roflstomped old Empires like the Interex

They were quite happy to peacefully absorb the Interex, they only had to 'roflstomp' them due to Chaos fuckery. Likewise, the first story we have from the HH novels is them encountering a human culture and doing everything they can to avoid having to exterminate them. They decapitate it's leadership and specifically avoid damage to civilian populations around the planet.

Doesn't really seem like the actions of a culture that's just going to gas them all and replace them with nu-men.
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>>52359826
They obviously assimilated humans into his Terrans.
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>>52359057
Assuming they're awake, 'Crons.

Dunno why Tau are on that list, they're not in the same league as the others.
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>>52359100
>The Emperor knew what he was doing
Cute.
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>>52359059
>Female inquisitor in terminator armor was a recent example tg lost its shit over.
If youd actually read the thread and not just the baity OP from the catalog you'd know that that thread almost got immediately derailed about her proportions and 98% of the posts within had nothing to do with her being a female inquisitor in terminator armor. Just people laughing at how absurd her proportions were and others, for some reason (I have long since given up trying to understand much of /tg/'s apparent lack of sanity or taste), trying to defend her ridiculous proportions
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>>52359896
Interex culture was antithesis to the Emperor ideals.
They were multi-speciest. It literally made marines vomit in their helmets and overcome with rage.
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Moving to tge other thread....this one is pol cancer.
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>>52359840
>roflstomped old Empires like the Interex

The Interex gave them a good fight, the Imperium won purely due to having unlimited manpower.
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>>52359896
Why do people lore debate that have no clue..
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>>52359802
I miss the days when Cheetah and Nightlords fags were our only shitposters. They seem like comedic geniuses compared to this Grog fag and all these /pol/acks and Fem-Marine shitters.
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>>52359840
Dude, just read the books. To humankind mercy was most often shown, fact.

>>52359899
More like assimilated Terrans into the humans since the Terrans were a tiny minority compared to the vast galactic human population.
>>
I wish the fucked state of American politics didn't infect everything on the internet. You can't even discuss a fictional setting anymore without people crying "SJW!" or far more commonly "/POL/!" over dumb shit and catastrophically derailing the thread
>>
>>52359925
Because marines are (generally) idiot kill-bots.

Horus was eager to avoid war. He even pointed out that the anti-xeno thing was due to them never having encountered xeno that weren't actively trying to kill them before.
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>>52358968
>Look at how trump is called "god emperor" by his supporters. Culturally 40k has been free of the modern leftist ideology and so has been a space for non-left opinions to develop.
I don't think you get 40k. It's been a parody of the right and further right since day dot. They named Ghazzy after Thatcher and it's not because they supported her politics.They associated her with the race that had (amongst other things) stormtroopers in SS outfits. Satire of rightwing political ideologies is all through the lore, the minis, etc. Pay some fucking attention.
>>
How do I build a war convocation in Battlescribe so that my IK oathsworn gets the free upgrades?

>>52359967
>american politics
Western politics.
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>>52359975
Specifically it is said that marines were disgusted by Alien and Humans working side by side.
Jesus fuck why is this place overrun with sjw morons.
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>>52359946
I don't know, galactic conquest isn't enough, so many faggots need to insert their racial purity fan-wank I guess.
>>
Can you people just stop ? Please.
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>>52360008
Are you fucking retarded i was talking about you. Stop inserting your nazi ranting into everything. It clearly says the Emperor purified the race genetically. Get a new hobby if it offends you.
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>>52360002
>Didn't read my post
>Just skimmed it, vaguely understood I failed in my duty to agree with his headcanon
>Responds with butthurt and baseless accusations of sjw-ness

Did 8th edition leaks bring /r9k/ and/or /pol/ in here en masse or something? I'm sure the level of discussion is usually slightly higher than this.
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>>52360036
>It clearly says the Emperor purified the race genetically.

Then maybe you can share 'It' and enlighten the rest of us.
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>>52360038
I really got to ask are you Finnish? This would explain the fucktarded trolling in here since Finns are full speds over this sort of thing.
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Can mods please just delete this entire thread and just do a mass purging? At this point I'd not even be bothered if I myself got caught in the crossfire, just get all these fucking spastics out of this craphole.
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>>52360051
Its just fucking been posted. Before we go on the idea of a new race isn't unique to "nazis" since this is triggering the shit out of you. Even the Communists had this concept.
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>>52360056
Not an argument.
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>>52360071
>the not an argument guy
Its seriously one guy every threads that shits it down with sjw trolling.
>>
>>52360066
There was no "new race" outside possibly a few people on Terra. Explain this
>>52359961
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>>52357616
Isn't that how GSC are played?
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>>52360066
>Still thinks I called him a nazi

Calm yourself you aggitated little faggot, nowhere did I call you a nazi ffs. I couldn't give a shit if you masturbate to Mein Kampf every night or not, it has no relevence to the conversation.

I just said the Emprah conquered human civilisations, he didn't exterminate them. All the Horus Heresy novels and the Forgeworld books that detail the various cultures in the Imperium support this.

If he'd replaced every human settlement in the galaxy in 200 years, there'd be no mention of that since they'd all be some dumb Terran globalist mono-culture.

Just the idea that you could somehow create trillions of humans in such a short amount of time, ready for the massive slaughter of the Horus Heresy, should make you stop and think.
>>
What should I purchase for my AdM/skitarii army next?

So far I've got the SC box, so a TP Dominus, a dunecrawler, and a 10 man vanguard squad. I also have an additional 10 man vanguard squad and two 5 man ranger squads.

I'm thinking an ironstrider, but $40 for 45 points seems kinda annoying. Maybe another dunecrawler.

I also have Cawl and an Imperial knight but I'm trying to keep it to around 1k points and I don't want to be oppressive.
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>>52360119
Oh ffs kill yourself you underage cunt im not going to repeat the source over and over because you are stuck on words.
Stop fucking bringing up the nazis no one fucking cares.
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>>52360119
Kill yourself.
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>>52359990
>Ghazzy after thatcher
But that's wrong you fucking idiot. Some one post the interview, please.
>>
>>52360125
If you can find ir ANYWHERE, immediately pick up the Eradication Cohort. It's an amazing deal and, apart from the Electro-Priests every unit in it is something you'll want.
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>>52358619
>>52358669
And I am sitting here totally new to this stuff with small Mechanicus force waiting for transports.
And instead I am apparently getting new rules.
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>>52360148
So you agree that the Emperor did not replace humanity with a new race? Are we clear here?
>>
>>52360212
No. Shut the fuck up you autistic scum.
>>
>>52360209
At least our codices are finally being combined as well. We also don't really NEED transports. It's just that Transport would be nice to have.
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>>52360249
Well this >>52359961 proves you wrong and you have still not posted a response to it.
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>>52359021
>The main cultural themes of 40k are early Catholicism vs. Other Faiths
There's parody of religion in there, but it's not really top of the list. It's just part of a wider grab bag that includes fascism, cynicism about the future, reflections of popular sci-fi series, a critique on Milton and a lot more.

>>52359159
>They also universally speak English.
They mostly speak Low Gothic, shitty future faux-latin which is rendered in English by convention.

PS: GEmps is from Antolia and was probably /pol/triggeringly nonwhite.

>>52359286
>Everyone in the setting is essentially a caucasianish human.
[citation needed]

>>52359669
40k explicitly has moved on from race hate, and moved its xenophobia into hating aliens and mutants. 40k stands out enough without /pol/ inserting their shitty fanfic into it.
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>>52360212
Stop forcing this the text says "recreate". You're wrong kid. End of debate.
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>>52360156
Make me you butthurt naziboo.

>>52360148
>Hurr my source proves my headcanon!
>Durr I don't need to present my source!
>Urr underage

Good hussle.
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>>52359286
>Everyone in the setting is essentially a caucasianish human.
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>>52360286
>baiting
Why do the mods not delete the "/pol/"! Screechers?
Its not even funny anymore just mental illness.
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>>52360300
>clearly trolling.
>calls an anon Naziboo after saying he wasn't doing that
>refers to a primary source as headcanon
Well mods here he is ban him.
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>>52360148
>>52360156
>get their headcanon called out by people who actually read the fluff
>only response is 'kill urself'

Ok, this was fun, but it's time for you to go back to your containment board now

>>>/pol/
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>>52360286
>PS: GEmps is from Antolia and was probably /pol/triggeringly nonwhite
Anatolia wasn't Turkish at the time sjwkun. He was a Trojan.
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>>52360354
>>52360318
>Mods!
>They're disagreeing with me in my safespace!!
>Mods plz delet!

The reddit invasion is real.
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do you think the new traitor legions codex will be pointless in a few months with 8th coming, it seems like they added this cool new way to play each legion now its seems are AoS it all.
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>>52360291
No, you are clearly wrong since it is explicitly stated that the humans who had already colonized the galaxy were made part of the Imperium, not genocided and replaced with new settlers, as shown here >>52359961
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>>52358996
Its me anon, Sorry, its not finish.
I was watching some movies yesterday, so I Will probably Go back to It this weekend.
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No more twin threads

NEW
>>52360365
>>52360365
>>52360365
>>52360365
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>>52360399
CUTE
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>>52360382
He's older than Troy was supposed to be, but yeah, not Turkish since they came much later.

Some random tribe we don't even have a name for.

Master of Mankind has him living what reads like a sort of nomad village. He kills his uncle with mind bullets for murdering his father.
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>>52354949

Keywords and allegiances

The "all factions rolled into one of 4" meme seems unlikely but you could very well end up with something like
>Aeldari (keyword all Eldar have)
>Wyches
>Kabals
>Haemonculi
>Aspect Warriors
>Ghost Warriors
>Guardians
>Seers
>Harlequins

and then buffs based on that
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>>52360355
Right here you stupid retarded cunt.
>>52359712
"Recreate"
Remember being selective about lore is not an argument Nott an argument cunt.
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>>52360427
You are the one being selective about lore since you refuse to acknowledge this >>52359961
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>>52360497
No you stupid fuck this is you moving goalposts and making up my position for me.
I said only that he recreated Terrans FACT.
That he also exterminated human factions, FACT.
I said nothing about the implication of groups joining the Imperium.
You
Said
That
I like wise said nothing about the purity of these people joining
You
Said
That
You are the thickest little piece of shit on this site. You are not going to make it.
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>>52360534
Oh, I misunderstood you. Sorry.
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>>52359990
>>52360187
You're both fucking wrong
>>
It's like I'm really on /pol/!

>[satirical media] supports [my retarded right-wing ideas] because I forgot the Imperium is a dystopia!
>[satirical media] supports [my extra retarded left-wing ideas] because I forgot the Imperium is a dystopia!

You're all huge faggots, go away, we have important things to do here like shitpost about Night Lords and Tau.
>>
>>52360291
It's talking about Terra there. Show us where he's said to be doing it offworld.

>>52360318
>Mods on /tg/
Do we have those?

>>52360382
I never said he was a Turk. Just that he came from that area. He also was a mix of shamans from around the globe. Sounds like /pol/ wouldn't like it anyhow.

>>52360588
Huh, there you go. Hell of a coincidence.
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>>52359159
Black people are harder to paint
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>>52359208
That's not in the lore.. That's some /pol/ fap-fantasy
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>>52360202
What happened to that? These days it can only be found on GW site through Australia.
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>>52358848
>He wanted protection against Astartes replacing humanity
That's ridiculous. There is no way space marines could reproduce naturally - even if we assume that the gene modifications they go through also modify their sperm (and there's no reason you would do that), those children couldn't possibly be born with all the extra implants that go into making a space marine.
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>>52353127
>>52356743
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>>52357679
>>52358807
>>52358894
>>52358973
>>52358714
>>52358995
>>52359100
>>52359156
>>52359268
>>52359790

>GROGNARDS
>ETERNALLY
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>GROGNARDS
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