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Grognards eternally BTFO edition
>Space marines are Ork Tier!
>It's impossible for there to be female space marines!
>Riprides are Tau's TEQ!
-an autist

>previous thread
>>52345633
Time for 8th edition and space marine fags are furious about it

>Hello grognard my old friend, I've come to laugh at you again, because the 40k rules changing, and is making it worth playing, but not for you cause your stuck living in the past, and that won't last, within the age of emprah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bSdOQ9BzCI [Embed] [Embed]→ → → → → → #

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android.
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
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https://mega.nz/#F!z4wmmJyR!jTfwLczhdFjV0q6nowtGag!qgZhmAhK

>40k rules reference in wiki format.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQs.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>List organizer picture book
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>Offline list builder
https://battlescribe.net/

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
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>>52350875

You know you're meant to vary what the edition is, right?
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Another age of image edition wars I see
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Reminder that all grognards are Fantasycucks

please kindly tell these people to migrate to >>>/vg/
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>>52350875
>/pol/ picture posting edition

I hate you so much.
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As a Space Marine player not interested in going outside my army, what can I do to handle a list of Magnus, 3 Daemon Princes, a Tzeentch Herald on a disc with the grimoire, a unit of horrors, and a unit of screamers? The Princes are from the CSM book and the daemons are from the Daemon book, so apparently he can use an allied detachment like that.
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Why is Eternal Crusade so bad? They actually expect people to pay for something that's clearly in an early beta state?
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>>52350875
No surprise that pol is in favour of AoSing 40k. Simple rules for simple minds.
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>8E will be newbie-friendly system with easy as fuck rules
>Lot of new players at every LGS
>Old fantasy-like salty-fags will burn themselves with their disgusting 120 years old minis or lock themselves in le 7.5 edition general containment threads
>90% less cancer in every community
>It will be AoS-like rebirth again
What a time to be alive
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Just kinda sticking a thunder hammer onto a sword arm worked surprisingly well.

I wanted to save one of the left handed fists for converting a Custodian, and thunder hammers are basically exactly the same damn thing as a power fist. When the hell is applying Concussive after your opponent has already struck relevant?
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What do you think of $70 for 5 SoS, Rhino, and SoS Codex? I'm leaning towards it being on the high end.
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>>52350993
>>Hello grognard my old friend, I've come to laugh at you again, because the 40k rules changing, and is making it worth playing, but not for you cause your stuck living in the past, and that won't last, within the age of emprah
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>>52351006
>AOS
>Rebirth
Even I am ok with the new supposed direction of 40k rulewise, but you can't call AOS a "rebirth" with its piss-poor lore.
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>>52350964

Funny thing? It's free now!
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>>52350993
>Christ Chan
>/pol/
Get >>>/out/
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>>52351037

You don't need a sisters of silence codex, the next edition preview is too different for old codices to still be relevant.
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>>52351044
Do you have more than the same couple images you post over and over? You might as well be using a trip at this stage.
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>>52351006
Literally the only thing in the whole image that doesn't scream Eastern Europe is the fact that there's 3 people and nobody is smoking.
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>>52351053
I should not have to fucking do this, and yet, here we are.

>http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/christ-chan
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>>52350959
Gladius and go for objectives.

Or just swallow your pride and get 3x5 Sisters of Silence and 3 null rhinos. Fuck Magnus.
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>>52351045
>Has most likely just read 4chan.
>Thinks he can make a judgement.

What follows? That stormcasts are golems?
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>>52351027
Concussive only works on multiwound models that would not be ID'd be a THammer.
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>>52351045
I'm talking about rules m8. Lore is a separate thing for me
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>>52350993
GUYS

WE GOT A LEGIT GROGFUCK HERE!
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>>52351027
>thunder hammers
Great taste in weapons my dude.

Thunder hammers are for when you get in a fight with some real fucking big and scary.
Like, my command squad managed to live long enought to strike a bloodthirster, dropping him to I1 next round for a double KO. The command squad was 200 points but he was around 320 so it was a net gain!
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>>52351070
Actually it's made in South America
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>>52351076

That, and it pretty much only matters if you can concuss the enemy -before- you get to swing.
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>>52351006
What in the fuck is she eating?
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>>52351109
Rice and vegetables with some kind of souce
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>>52351006
>>52350954

The future is looking bright. Brighter than anything we can possibly imagine.

https://youtu.be/bba5kjtZB9Q?t=1m32s
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>>52351099
Or an enemy that can eat a few smacks to the chops and will need multiple rounds to kill.
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Awfully high effort trolling for little returns going on here.
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>>52351075
Try to explain to me what is so interesting in AOS's shitty lore, compared to the WFB one.

Come on, I'll be there waiting for you to reply with yet another ad hominem, since AOS's lore is objectivly bad and poor.
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>>52351098
What makes you say that? I'm genuinely curious.

>>52351109
rice, offal loaf, half a peach, pieces of some other veggies and UBS
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>>52351052
>microtransactions in a beta is a good thing
>can spam rolls for iframes to avoid damage and stun
>tutorial is shit
>no explanation about stats or differences between subfactions
>almost nobody plays eldaar, almost as dead as chaos
>majority of ork players have no idea what to do and get killed one by one
>space marines complain when they get killed while sniping because they don't check the radar
I'm just glad I haven't heard any voice chat.
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OOOOOHHHH FUCK
I leaned on my shelf like a retard when trying to climb up to get something and it collapsed, throwing my Ork army to the floor.

It was like the world was in slow motion as I saw them plummet to the ground, I remember seeing the bliza-bommer in a nose dive and thinking
>rolled a double one...
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>>52351154

I'd gladly engage on a futile argument to convince a deaf wall, but I don't have time to try to achieve the impossible. You can believe whatever you want.
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>>52351182
F
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>>52351154
>since AOS's lore is objectivly bad and poor.
>AOS's shitty lore, compared to the WFB one
Not this Anon but WFB lore was a mix of shitty tropes and themes. I don;t really understand why people are crying about something as bad as Fantasy lore
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>>52351072
>When you're this new to 4chan

>>>out
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>>>52351052 (You)

EH, haven't played it at all, so who cares. It's "free" in steam. Happy?
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>>52351182
Post pics of your disastrous lifestyle.
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>>52351182
I am actually sorry for you. I hope your minis are ok.
God I'm in physical pain now, just from imagining it.
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>>52351195
>but I don't have time
Don't lie, you're here all the time.
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>>52351206
because they replaced it with something far worse and shitcanned 30 years worth of worldbuilding ?
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>>52351206
B-but muh grounded lore! (yeah, apparently empires of giant rats with WW1 tech and mad science is grounded)
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>>52351154

Warhammer is specifically a generic fantasy setting for generic fantasy gaming, that built up personality over many years.

AoS is a thinly defined realm of endless potential populated by too many people to keep track of and several keystone factions that just kinda endlessly respawn if killed meaning there's no stakes worth mentioning on a setting wide scale.

It's meant to be ultimate "your dudes" but lacks grounding. Not very helpful is that it's brand new and everything has bloody stupid names.
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>>52351182
>>52351222
Be strong m8s. Be strong, for the Emperor.
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>>52351227
Different anon here. Cut it out, will you?
This is supposed to be the 40k general. Not a place where you two can self-project and argue about fantasy's shit.
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>>52351168
>What makes you say that? I'm genuinely curious.
Well, let's start with these guys in background. Then look at the pics on walls - you can see people dressed as south american indians and ruins
also I was looking for the source of this pic to fap some time ago and I found info that it was taken in some SA shithole - don't even remember which one
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>>52351182
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>>52351154
The freedom for GW to be creative. Like 40k there are always unexplored corners for them to add new things and introduce new forces. WHFB was basically defined. Sure we didn't get a Cathay army, but we knew what was there.

There is a lot of basic stuff in the Sigmar setting GW needs to fill in. How life is for the common people in different Realms for example. But I'm confident they will get there over time even if it feels a little sketchy right now.
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>>52351057

I've seen pictures of the Codex, and its actually looks pretty nice with the art and fluff.

Still, it's not needed. I'm just looking for the best option for buying SoS squads and rhinos. Guess I'll be buying them separately at $30 for 5. Ugh.
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>>52351252
>Two
There's more people on both sides than you think.
>>52351182
Initiative 2 strikes again.
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>>52351232
> (yeah, apparently empires of giant rats with WW1 tech and mad science is grounded)

Blatantly, yes. Do you have a head injury?

>Things that don't exist can't be anchored in a sense of stakes and that the setting is anything other than bubbles of random floating in the warp
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>>52351228
>because they replaced it with something far worse and shitcanned 30 years worth of worldbuilding ?
>30 years worth of worldbuilding ?
Spending 30 years on building some shitty lore builded on stealing other themes is nothing amazing mate - this time was wasted. But it's just my opinion - same as yours and both are not facts
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>>52351182
Ever have a Melvin swipe one of your figs at a store?
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>>52351247
In my experience the naming is nowhere as bad as we make it out to be once you say it out.
Aelfs... is just how the scandinavians said it (you know, that weird letter that is written AE) and sounds equal to elf anyways.
Ogors... sounds like Ogres. So no big change.

Orruks... isengard calls, they want their uruks back (so again, ripping tolkien).

Duardin actually sounds a tad better than dwarves.
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>>52351182
That sounds horrible. I hope you managed to save at least some of them.
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>>52351006
The rules are no problem for non ADHD kids with normal intelligence.
The cost of models and other necessities is.
You can buy a video game for less than some units, and then you have to assemble and paint it too.
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>>52350959
Better buy more plastic models for 100 bucks.
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>>52351309
>In my experience the naming is nowhere as bad as we make it out to be once you say it out.
Just remember that these names are made to be trademarks - same as necrons and tau. I don't get why people are bitching about this
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WHO MOTHERFUCKING DEATH GUARD HERE?

DEATH GUARD HYPE!

MORTARION CONFIRMED!

DEATH GUARD RELEASE WHEN?

DEATH GUARD IN 7TH OR 8TH?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/23/news-from-the-plague-planet/
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>>52351222
>>52351248
I think they're actually all ok apart from some old metal meganobz which broke off their base again.

The shelf wasn't very high up and my carpet is soft.
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>>52351318
The rules are becoming a significant barrier to new players. That's a problem for everyone.
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Plastic thunderhawk incominf

prepare your anus for fighting one every other game for the next year as they'll be cheaper and available in GW stores
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>>52351309

Have you looked at an AoS map, or read fluff describing location names and such?

The arbitrary warping of species names was only the start of it.
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>>52351292

Sorry to break this to you, but the old world was too a bubble of reality in the warp.

Plus, there's starting to be stakes? I mean, they are starting to drum up the cities back again.
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>>52351195
Kek.
>Explain to me why AoS is better. But you won't because it's worse, so you'll just reply with an ad hominem
>Replies with ad homenim
Please tell me this was a scripted false flag against AoS players, and they're not actually this dumb
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>>52351006
>it's depressed store worker man tired of teaching children maths again

Maybe you should just find a different career that you enjoy
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>>52351318
>The rules are no problem for non ADHD kids with normal intelligence.
I don't know man. I'm playing 40k but these rules are terrible. So many things can be simplified without fucking with core rulebook, codices and shit. Free warscrolls are what 40k needs
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So is there any actual nuance to Chaos besides just being satanic Space ISIS? Do you think that things like "Pain" is irrelative compared to realspace, and that being absorbed by the Gods might actually be beneficial in the long run in a Galaxy where Chaos wins?
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>>52351006
So, kinda like when 3rd dropped?
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>>52351337
BEEN WAITING FOR 11 YEARS FOR PLASTIC DG HYPED ANON.

I think they will release before 8th ed drops, but it won't be any time soon. Looked through GW stores latest retail briefing here in the UK and the only thing I've seen so far is that SOMETHING is happening in the middle of May.
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>>52351288
>The freedom for GW to be creative
Just because it has plot holes that need filling, it doesn't make it any less of a shitty setting.
>WHFB was basically defined
Being defined is not a bad quality for a tabletop setting, and it still had a lot of room for expanding and things like making up your own campaigns.

As much as I'd love to get into it, I just can't. After reading the books I still think the entire setting is a complete joke compared to the low-fantasy of WFB.
Maybe in a few years after they do a LOT of work on it.
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>>52351337

I still can't believe that plastic plague marines and zombies are a thing

I've waited for this so long I don't even remember when it began
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>>52351350

These maps look fairly well. Also, there's something called high fantasy. You may want to check it out.
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>>52351337
Yeah boi hopefully it's 8th ed
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>>52351347
GW managed to copy the Valkyrie well enough but I have concerns about something as large as a Thunderhawk. It's an iconic ship so they better not fuck it up.
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>>52351355

>Sorry to break this to you, but the old world was too a bubble of reality in the warp.

That sure is some end times lore you're bringing up there.

>Plus, there's starting to be stakes? I mean, they are starting to drum up the cities back again.

Yeah so random city #2617 dies, life goes on everywhere else in the realms. Little people are trampled on, the immortal respawning factions pick up their pieces for the next round of the endless game.
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>>52351367
40k's rules are pretty bad. Wouldn't mind AoS-like rules changes. It's the fluff I fear for, AoS' fluff is shit and most of what GW's put out for 40k isn't much better the few times it wasn't worse.

However, Gathering Storm was decent and rumor mill has moved away from Guillimarines; so I'm holding out hope that all is not lost for fluff.
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>>52351394
They grey shit looking continent actually just looks like a shooped america.
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>>52351361
Or because he's not interested in continuing with the shit-flinging that there's been for two years.

Also, explain me why X is better than Y is a loaded question as fuck if you ask me. You can say whatever you want about being dumb and yada yada but this kind of shit doesn't deserve much more effort. Want to know if it's better? READ IT and then make the decision by yourself.
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>>52351394

Read the place names dumbass, why else would I bring up maps when talking about stupid names for everything making the setting harder to take seriously?
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A friendly reminder:

THIS IS A WARHAMMER 40K THREAD.

So can all AoS and Fantasy guys kindly fuck off and go to their containment boards?
I understand you're all salty, but it's beginning to be somewhat annoying.

Thank you in advance.
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>>52351439
I have been reading it while at the dog park. It's worse.
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>>52351424
That looks more like east asia, doesn't it?

>>52351408

Your argument is... mental gymnastics? Kay, guess we are done.
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>>52351350
I rather like the map from the Sylvaneth book, and the names seem fine. I do remember the Realm of Death map being pretty laughable though.
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>>52351445

There will always, always, ALWAYS be more shitty posts you don't care about than stuff you actually want to read in a general thread. Learn to skim read until you hit something to pay attention to.
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>>52351337

Seeing those models is probably the happiest I've been this year

Oh GAAAAWD I can't fucking wait

>>52351383

>May

I'll take it desu, I'm a bit worried we might be looking at a July release 7/7/18
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>>52351377
There's 3 types of Chaos worshipers; those that do so without knowing it, those that do so for personal gain, and those that bend over backwards to appease the gods.
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>>52351445
Well, it's hard to waste your time in dead thread. Also remember that a lot of AoS players are also 40k players - right now we have something like 20 posts per thread made by 40k players curious about AoS rules etc.
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>>52351451

Which brings me to the point I was making. Neither you nor him will budge because you two are being flamming assholes who can't admit you aren't entirely right.

Boy I'm glad we just got Girlyman.
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>>52351445
Here, have a Squat.
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>>52351484
*Snatches it off*

You had your chance and wasted it, now it belongs to us.

*goes back to AoSg*
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We have plastic Custodes, SoS, Rubric Marines, Primarchs nad nowa we are getting entire plastic nurgle army. Ye still SoB are all metal, and noise marines are just upgrade pack., not to mention the most important characters like Abaddon, Dante , Azrael, Phoenix Lords models still remembers 2 ed.
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>>52351501
Keep it buddy, might be the colour scheme but it looks awful.
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>>52351462

That's because everything in the Sylvaneth book is great. I kind of regret buying them because I didn't realize how popular they were
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>>52351455

>Your argument is... mental gymnastics? Kay, guess we are done.

My argument is AoS will never manage to give the same sense of stakes that fantasy or 40k can. Pretty much everything is immaterial and replaceable.
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How would it turn out if I took CSM/Nurgle dudes, converted them with a flower/plant/tree theme, used the Death Guard rules and called them Isha Marines?
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>>52351514
>Doesn't like the look of the squats.

GET THE HERETIC!.
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>>52351339
That's a relief. Those old Meganobz can be a pain in the butt to assemble, I'm surprised their arms didn't break. I remember painting a few of them a couple years ago.

Might as well post some pics, for the nostalgia.
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>>52351520

Cities are inmaterial and replaceable? What?

Okay, AoS may not be great shit but this comment reeks of moronity from miles away.
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>>52351541
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>>52351541
Good times.
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>>52351541
>>52351557
Them's some nicely painted Orks my man.
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>>52351510
I'm gonna say that Emperor's Children are getting an update next, then either Word Bearers or Black Legion.

If they do Word Bearers after EC they're gonna go through every legion and end with Black Legion, and if they do Black Legion after EC then they might do every other legion, or they won't do any other ones.

Screencap this
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>>52351557
ok I chuckled
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>>52351549
They are. Age of Sigmar's entire thing is infinite planes of infinite space.
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>>52351541
Is that warboss wearing a fucking bills hat?
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>>52351572
It'll be fulgrim and plastic noise marines after I reckon then plastic Abbadon. Not sure how they'll do my precious Iron warriors. We don't really... have much...

:(
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>>52351549

>Cities are inmaterial and replaceable? What?

What meaningful setback does humanity or insert race here face when a city dies in AoS?

No more than the Empire did if a woodcutter's cottage was lost to a beastmen raid. Oh sure, it's a tragedy to the woodcutter. You could even tell a compelling story of him desperately trying to defend his family. But it doesn't matter. Life goes on.

The mind-boggling scale of the realms, with ever more life and settlements to pull out of infinite asses forever makes it all little guys getting crushed over and over as the big guns of the setting squabble over an abstract universe.
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>>52351557
I like yer gits. Excellent checks, my boy.
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>>52351597
A Beret? He's probably a Blood Axe.
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>>52351586
Except... they aren't? it's been about a year that they explained that those places do end and at the limits of each realm the chaos wastes (or a version of them, to be accurate) form and latch unto the land.

Plus they have been described as extremely large/extense. Never used the word infinite with certainity.
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>>52351606
Mk III Iron armor is probably the most you'll get
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>>52351584
>Matt Ward

I laughed at that one way harder than I should.
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>>52351455
>accused of mental gymnastics
>by an Age of Sigmar fan

Hoooo boy.
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>>52351620
I want something like.. maybe a plastic warpsmith? I'm not too sure what we'd get

Wanna know what really needs to fucking come out?

THE FUCKING DARK MECHANICUS. LITERALLY WHY HAVE THEY NOT GOT RULES?!
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>>52351606
What I'm hoping for is they do every single legion and give them each a meaningful and "unique" unit.

Like new havocs with an Iron Warriors update, new Chosen for Alpha legion, while giving them new rules (like chosen can be given 1 special rule like 30k vets, or havocs get bs5 and tank hunters) but only with their respective legion.
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>>52351620
If only there was also glorious mark 2
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>>52351617
That's no Blood Axe! You can tell because he's wearing the black and checks of the serious Goffs.

Blood Axes is made for camouflage!
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>>52351613
What meaningful setback did the empire face when a city NEVER fell? For all the whining about stakes, you guys are laughably ignoring the true lack of stakes in fantasy.

I'm done with this.
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>>52351640
Hey- you know that's not a bad idea. Plastic Havocs with plastic autocannons pls gw
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>>52351407
I'm more concerned about my minis when the spehs muhreen player's flying base inevitably snaps and dumps 2-3kg of plastic onto them.
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>>52351597
>>52351617
He's a goff. That's propably Da Finkin Cap
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>>52351639
In their conference on Angelus they said dark mechanicum will be included
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Would you guys like living under the Tau?
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>>52351658
Crawl back to your safe space over in /aosg/ then. One less AoS fan outside their containment thread is one less faggot shitting up a better game.
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>>52351669
Assuming any were left after my drop pod assault with the new rules.
>>52351682
Nah they're fags.
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>>52351682
No.

Emprah of Mankind or nuffin.
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>>52351662
I wish they made Havocs troops as well as obliterators for IW
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>>52351613
Oh yeah, this is what bothers me about AoS too.

I remember this passage from one of the books where some Tzeentch daemons are flying around looking for something, stumble apon a city and completely wipe it out In the space of a paragraph.

They didn't even bother naming it, just destroyed it the moment it was introduced.
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>>52351701

I'm talking of 40k, you nitwit. Containment thread is WHFB's anyway, it's almost dead.
Don't safe-space me, you bitchy whiner who's still mourning for his dead game two years later.
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>>52351677
WHAT
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>>52351715

Don't we do the same for 40k most of the time, though? I mean, too often they make a character a badass for killing from a certain organization... who's just been created so he can kill them.
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>>52351706
Same. Imagine having army wide Autocannon Havocs raping people.
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>>52351725
Says the guy getting mad at the fact others hold opinions.

Don't come here much, do you?
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>>52350964
eternal crusade isn't bad, you're just bad at it.
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>>52351066
>These GI
>Leave playing cards on our boy's bodies
>Don't they know we will know who did this?!
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You will never be as happy as this Plague Marine.

:(
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>>52351682
Do I get to bang hot Tau chicks?

If so, then yes.
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>>52351768

More often than not I find the "I HOLD MY OPINION!" Is the actual guy who needs the safespace, since he's so insecure people disagree with them he needs to rationalize they are actually against free-speech, that they hate them and are narrowminded.
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>>52351776

Different anon, but my problem with EC is the horrid wait times. If I want to play more than one game an hour, I have to faction hop until I get something.
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>>52351780

I just know the rules for Death Guard terminators will be miles better than their Tzeentch-worshipping cousins.
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>>52351793
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>>52351752
I feel like 40k doesn't do it to that extent.

Crimson slaughter started out as generic marines for dark vengeance but X years down the line they've got their own suppliment and everything.
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>>52351154
I mean, its pretty fucking cool if you ask me.

>old world is consumed by chaos
>millions dead
>no hope in sight
>archaeon laughing
>he has won
>oh wait
>no wtf is that
>clouds part
>thunder, lightning
>the incarnations of sigmar himself descend upon the chaos hordes
>archaeon weeps tears of frustration
>SIGMAR YOU COWARD, FACE ME
>Archaeon you fool, face justice
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>>52351706
I think what they really needed was more benefits that applied to everything all the time. Getting full feel no pain or stubborn all the time instead of just in bunkers would have been nice compared to what other legions get.
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>>52351812
>implying literally anything except wyches/helions aren't better than SOTs
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>>52351445
You're not going to avoid it since
1)What's happening in 40k is pretty similar to a somewhat controversial period in GW history
2)A lot of people have disliked GW's moves over the years and are defensive to begin with
3)many anons on /tg/ treat WHFB, 40k and/or AoS as their religion. And Lawd forbid you imply their religion is wrong or that they're doing it wrong.
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>>52351811

>EC is the horrid wait times
If you're LSM, then yeah. The faction is full of brainless morons and their population is several times that of other factions.
Orks>Chaos>Knife ears>>>>>>LSM
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>>52351387
>Just because it has plot holes that need filling

Do you know what a plot hole is?
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>>52351800
Well, that's just your opinion :^)
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>>52351829
Read what you just wrote out loud, and then tell me it doesn't sound like a fanfiction made by a 14 year old.
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>>52351633
Am I te only one that likes Ward's necrons lore? It feels like everytime it comes up, he's crucified, and he made the necrons way more interesting while sticking to the lore (te grey knights stuff has no excuse, though).
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>>52351318
and in other news, warhammer is expensive, tune in at 11 for more!
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>>52351132
not gonna lie I think its working. the doomsayers seem to have fucked off, I havent even seen cheetah fag in almost two days.
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>>52351860
Do you understand you are playing with fucking toy soldiers.
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>>52351377
>is there any actual nuance to Chaos besides just being satanic Space ISIS
Yes.
Their metaphysics take chaos into account in a way that the Imperium doesn't. Secular Imperium had no way of dealing with acknowledging its existence, hence the Horus Heresy, while the 40k Imperium, if people have the existence of chaos explained to them at all, will probably not be able to deal with it except in the limiting context of "it's the devil to the Emperor's God".
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>>52351878
>Criticises the lore
>But toy soldiers
Are you okay?
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I can't wait!
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>>52351861
No, I liked those changes too.

Unfortunately, he'll be forever associated with the Grey Knight codex and Ultramarines.
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>>52351182
you poor bastard

>be me
>get dropped off at 3am after night of gaming at buddies house
>didnt lock my carrying case properly
>its been raining all day
>entire case spills out of the car and into the street as im pulling the case out

I only had 1 casualty thank the gods.
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>>52351860

>I prefer my plastic army men stories to be a little more nuanced, dark and edgy, thank you very much

>*tips katana*
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>>52351704
>>52351705
>>52351793
Can you guys be more specific why? It's for something I'm making.
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>>52351301
manlets BTFO

>ywn have a stacked ginger qt wife
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>>52351337
They're the army I wanted to play when I first started but never did because no models.
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>>52351841

I play everything BUT LSM, actually. Preferably Orks because Rokkit Launchas are hilarious and Pain Boys are fun.
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>>52351780
>white with red borders

I see Morbäck's been trying to shoehorn the plaguebones into the canon huh?
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>>52351182
That sucks m8, did the same to my SM at one point, the knight I had landed on my bed though and wasn't damaged.
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>>52351932
Banging. Hot. Tau. Chicks.

Be sure to make notes.
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>>52351478
this. AoS threads have had a increase in 40k players asking questions lately, I think people are finally starting to accept AoS into the community :')
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>>52351947
Nah, its the same green and copper as the other pics, just horribly overexposed.
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>>52351947
>white
>with red
I'm sorry, what?
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>>52351932
I'd prefer to be a disposable cog in a human empire than a comfortable pet in an alien one.

Also, the God-Emperor is literally the only thing stopping humanity from being consumed by the warp. Jumping ship to the Tau is trading short-term personal gain for the ultimate extinction of your species.

Also, the Imperium doesn't treat apostates well and the Tau Empire's days are numbered. Either the Imperium gets it's shit together and stomps them, or it collapses and the Tau discover what was on the other side of the buffer empire that surrounded them.
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>>52351337
MORBÄCK YOU TALENTLESS HACK, THIS IS LITERALLY JUST THE BACK OF A SM HELMET WITH TWO LENSES STUCK ON IT

I KNOW BECAUSE I WAS THERE 7 YEARS AGO WHEN YOU SHOWED OFF YOUR CONVERSIONS ON WARFO BEFORE YOU GOT HIRED BY GW

STOP TRYING TO SHOVE YOUR SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE OCDONUTSTEEL ARMY INTO THE CANON FLUFF
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>>52351981
Speaking of overexposed.....
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>>52350875
Excellent image.
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>>52351932
Tau are quite literally irelevant sclae-wise. Story wise they have so much plot armor it's dumb. Lore wise the Tau are too bright and clean for the setting.
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>>52351964
My nocturnal
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>>52351981
shit, you're right
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>>52351811
I can agree with that, its not a very populated game to say the least. But I've never had to wait more than 3-5 minutes for a match.

after a few weeks of going hard on it, I can say this about the player base.

>orks are suprisingly the most competent players
>eldar and chaos are 50/50, really depends on the day
>space marines are agonizingly terrible
>cannot into objectives or kills
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>>52352001
they need to give Torchstar a model
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>>52351860
read what you just wrote out loud, and tell me it doesn't sound like a faggot wrote it.
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>>52351780
>problem, space marine?
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>>52351572
Word Beaters and a Black Legion (with the exception of Abaddon) don't really need specific model updates. They're pretty much basic bitch CSM. A new standard CSM box would be enough.
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>>52352054
I was just thinking for characters/special units.
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>>52351682
If I get me some plump tau bitches then sure.
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>>52351877
He got himself banned.
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>>52351898
fucking lmao

wtf I love nurgle now
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>>52352001
the entire point of Tau is that everyone underestimates them. the Eldar have a quote about this that goes along the lines of "the tau are a young race, but their fire burns hot enough to render the stones of ancient empires to ashes, to underestimate them is to invite the cold embrace of death"

every good story needs an underdog.
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>>52351811
It takes 15 Seconds to find a game as orks and csm, dunno what you're talking about.
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>>52352173
Is this why they are the most 'good' race in the setting?
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>>52352173
The trouble is that they really don't come across as the underdogs.
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>>52352173
>Tau
>part of a good story
Pick one.
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>>52352202
I wouldnt say 40k has any "good guys" per se. I mean, were all humans so the imperium by default are the good guys to us.
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>>52352226
certainly not on the table top, but if table top peformance dictated lore, tau and eldar would have taken over the universe by now.
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>>52351998
Not gonna lie I fucking LOVE that model with the bell hanging from the horn growth coming out the backpack. That one sold me. I really hope it has cool rules.
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>>52352241
>you
>any sense of what makes a story good
pick one
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>>52351861
Nah, Newcrons lore is decent. Most of the Ward hate is now just memelords from 1d4chan. He did some inexcusable things, no one is gonna argue that.
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>>52351947
>>52351981
I actually think the Heresy era bone-white looks better than the green tbqh.
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"Burn the Heretic. Kill the Mutant. Purge the Unclean."

How does the Imperium recruits Ogres when they are constantly shouting that?
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>>52352312

Stable subspecies aren't mutants.
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>>52352312
They don't classify abhumans as mutants.
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>>52352312
They have an IQ of like 10, I doubt they even understand it
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>>52351288

That model is complete shit.
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>>52352277
>you
>taste
Pick none, and fuck off.
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>>52352312

Ogryns need to be better. Slightly buffed but mostly just a shit ton cheaper.

They're a fun concept but flat out not worth running.
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>>52352312
Because ogyrn believe that every order that they get is from the Emperor himself.
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>>52352202
Tau are aliens. aliens are not good.
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What statline would the Men of Iron have in 40k?

I'm always fascinated with the idea of 40k-era humans stumbling across DAoT outposts or a DAoT ship dropping out of warp after a year of travel to discover 20,000 years has past.
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>>52352173
>underdog
>literally every story they have is about them "underdogging" all over an already established race
>codex reads like mary sue dbz character with counters to everything ever.

ok
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>>52352173

>underdog
>win 99.99% of all battles
>have the most advanced technology in 40k
>Cannot be stopped by any means
>can conquer a dug in fortress world guarded by billions of guardsmen and thousands of space marines in a few hours
>Tau are Immune to chaos
>Tau AI is immune to chaos
>Can defeat Entire hive fleets with little effort
>underdog

Ok m8!
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>>52352312
Abhumans are stable sub-species of humanity. Look down upon and discriminated against (mainly Ratlings. Pretty hard to bully an Ogryn.) but tolerated.

Different from some random guy who sprouts a tentacle from his forhead.
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>>52352312
Simple sentences repeated loudly in confident voice are proven method of swaying simpletons for your case. I mean look at any political rally.
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>>52352366
But suppose Tau were humans. And The Imperium were aliens.

Would the Tau be good then?
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>>52352312

abhumans aren't mutants you fucking heretic.
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>>52352358

Ogryn need a buff.
Bullgryn can be nasty with Karamazov and a Priest/Psyker.
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>>52350875
Wait, did something change about female space marines?

Also Christ-Chan is plain out fucking creepy.
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>>52352371
>Pask all of sudden is in the baneblade despite him refusing to ever commando one
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>>52351793
You don't.

Tau are very restrictive on their breeding.
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>>52352390
>have the most advanced technology in 40k
Shouldn't that be the Necrons?
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>>52352390
>>Can defeat Entire hive fleets with little effort
This one is a meme that didn't happen after the 6th ed retcon.

Gorgon kicked the everliving SHIT out of the Tau until they had Imperial help. They lost over two dozen worlds FOREVER, completely stripped barren and worthless to them.
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>>52352428
Except Tau pilots and AI are so good that they can give Necrons their soul back right before destroying them
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>>52352413
talk shit, get hit
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>>52352442

HIVE FLEET GORGON COULD NOT BEST TAU, NEITHER SHALL YOU
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>>52352428
Yeah, Tau don't have a stellar map that can delete stars....yet.
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>>52352442
Nope, out adapted them with their superior technology.
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>>52351132
Actually the grognards got BTFO, eternally.
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>>52352267
Even in the lore they're not really underdogs.
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>>52352446
Did this really happen?
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>>52352447
>don't you talk bad about muh waifu!

Seriously, she's the pet project of the ever sexually insecure /pol/io: an optimally designed waifu for an especially pathetic brand of geek that can't handle anything about women that seems even slightly threatening to them. She's designed to look demure, agree with everything they say, and be rabidly misogynistic. The only consolation of her existence as a character is that someday Sparrow might wind up drawing something about her.
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>>52352460
They're classified as underdogs because they don't even have enough worlds to rival Ultramar.
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>>52352492
>rabidly monogamous

Though I suspect she's also intended to be misogynistic too.
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>>52352492
I can only hope that he gets on that soon
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>>52352495
And yet they easily rival any of the other races.
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>>52352413
cute factor aside yea shes clearly on the verge of insanity, but thats in our world. In 40k she would be your average inquisitor.
>>
Can a Voxcaster in the Tempestus Scion CS take a plasmagun or just a laspistol?
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>>52351006
mommy
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>>52352481
I believe it's in the death from the skies

A necron pilot is so astounded by the fish's piloting skill that it kindles new feelings of joy and life again right before being blown up
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>>52352492
>>52352514
>wanting r34 of christ chan
ill bet you fucking heretics want r34 of celestine too.
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>>52352535
They can keep their Hot-shot lasgun or swap it for a Hot-shot laspistol. Dunno why you'd do that.

They can't take plasma guns or any other special weapons. Same for first aid kits and flags.
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>>52352556
DEUS VULT
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>>52352492
>Boo hoo inquisitors trigger me
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>>52352595
Spotted the /pol/tard
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Is everyone ready for that re-roll to hit with your Space Marines if you cry out 'for the Emperor'?
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>>52352635
do you get genuinely upset when you see other people having fun?
>>
Can we all agree that the most evil faction is the Dark Eldars?
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>>52352524
Most they can do is take maybe a handful of worlds each expansion, the rest of the factions are decimating hundreds by the minute.
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>>52352635
As long as I can get re-rolls by saying "OMNOMNOM", I'm down with it.
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>>52352633
>liking inquisitors is /pol/ tier
well if thats the case then half of this board is from /pol/
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>>52352650

> fun

No but you seem genuinely upset because you know this is coming.
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>>52352556
Umm, Lewds and rule 34 Celestine has been around for years you know.
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>>52352635
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>>52352663
More like the least hypocritical. I want to have a good codex again.
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>>52352673
Worlds have never mattered though, apart from the few important ones.
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>>52352663

As viewed by other races, or by principle?
Tyranids if it's the former, Deldar if it's the latter.
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>>52352663
sadistic yes, but evil no, thats definitely chaos.
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>>52352633
>When you love women in battle armor claiming worlds for her dead yet living King but also can't stand that very thing
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>>52352689
I wouldn't know. I play Templars, and the only thing Celestine fills me with is righteous hatred for the enemies of mankind.
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>>52352663
They're sadistic and somewhat genocidal but they're just doing it for kicks. Unlike some other assholes they're not trying to exterminate all other life in the galaxy.
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>>52352390

Look at this butturt, that's why I love Tau
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>>52352595
>>52352681
>I'm retarded

Christ chan is not an inquisitor.
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>>52352703
>>52352707
>>52352710
>>52352744
The D.Eldar will torture you, torture you, torture you and torture you some more. They have specialists dedicated to research how to make torture more painful. And if you somehow die they will harvest your soul and use it as a resource.

They are not full genocidal just because if they kill everyone who will they torture?
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>>52352681
Inquisitors aren't venerating Jesus Christ, you fake believer.
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>>52352390
Well, it helps that they don't fight like retards. There's a reason modern warfare emphasizes mobility and range.
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>>52352689

What the hell is wrong with you people?
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>>52351998
that plasma pistol is fucking sick
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>>52352746

>oh christ I don't have a counter to any of this... I know!

>u mad!? dis is why i field half assembled unpainted riptides wings l-lol
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>>52351006
>she fuck all ugly from afar
>she actually really cute up close
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>>52352783
unchecked creativity, repressed sexuality, and boredom multiplied by 30 years.
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>>52352746
>love Tau
Isn't those the fucks who would let their entire city be wiped out if their precious etheral is killed?
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>>52352401
No because they are communists.
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>>52352680
>filename
THAT IS A CARNIFEX
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>>52352763
The other factions would also torture/kill you, don't hate on the D.Eldar because they happen to be the best at it.
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>>52352413
>what are Sisters of Battle
>one of the most well-known yet obscure factions in the WH40k universe
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>>52352747
>>52352767
whatever you guys say. Inquisitors venerate the emperor.
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>>52352825
~Unyuu !
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I'm not trolling here but every time a new edition comes out the sky is falling etc. etc.

However, this time it does genuinely feel like this is going to be a big change to 40K.

What will people do if they really don't like it?
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>>52352783
this website corrupts your soul. Slaanesh definitely created 4chan.
>>
What do the Iron Warriors think of xenos as a whole? I'm making lore for my dudes
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>>52352855
>/pol/ tries to fit in
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>>52352875

I'd say people will really like the rules.
GW is under competent management now, so they know what they're doing.
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>>52352888
They.. Hate them?
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>>52352888
If I recall, most Chaos Marines are still pretty well conditioned to hate Xenos as a whole.

Still, that doesn't mean you couldn't have a warband that liked them or their tech splinter off
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>>52352875
Oddly enough, I'm not actually sure they'll change that much. The way they introduced these more as additions to the rules rather than parts of a full overhaul helps.
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I just hope Typhus get's a new model like Kharn and Ahriman.
And I'm sure Mortation is gonna be another FGMC who shoots crazy psychic powers and uses his D manreaper.
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>>52352783
Sexy characters + men who haven't fucked within the last month.
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>>52352912
>>52352916
I'm trying to incorporate an iron warriors spinter kind of like the ordo xenos who have created a daemon engine for the sole purpose of eradicating xeno scum. It's most likely going to be a giant laser thing that destroys planets.
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>>52352875
Any change is good
t. Tzeentch
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>>52352855
Which Christians do not do. Part of the reason they tended to get in shit in Rome was refusal to pay tribute to the Imperial cult.
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>>52352942
>month
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Rate my fluffy 1850 nurgle list
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>>52352934
I foresee that causing quite a few problems if they do that.
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>>52352747
>When you admit to being retarded
She's wearing power armor. Are you suggesting there are female space marines instead?
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>>52352783
>reminds me of when I drew a dick-vagina on a preexisting Slaanesh picture, years ago
>mfw it can still be found on rule34
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>>52352969
It's too late for me, I've lost my wizard powers.
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>>52352312
because ogryn are fucking awesome

You will NEVER have as good a bro as an ogryn.
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>>52352967
>who are the traditores
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>>52352992
>I don't understand that Christ-chan has a larger presence as a character than the inevitable 40k crossover.

Retard.
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>>52352960

Is Tzeentch the best chaos god?

Khorne is just 'KILL KILL', Slaanesh is just 'RAPE RAPE' and Nurgle is 'DEATH DEATH'. Tzeentch has plans however.
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>>52352492
>>52352633
>>52350954
>implying most of /pol/ don't hate Christianity
>implying they don't see it as an extension of THEM JEWS
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>>52353031
But none of Tzeentch's plans actually do anything. All of his plans are for the sake of making other people make plans and giving himself the chance to plan more in the future.
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>>52352875
cry about it online
continue playing a few months later

History is repeating itself. I'm glad that we're actually getting a new (as in, actually new) edition of a game I'm fond of.
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>>52352746
>picks his faction based on troll potential instead of how cool the models or lore is
>because he spends 99% of his time trolling instead of hobbying
>even when he plays the game he's trolling his opponents

Honestly this sounds pretty smart if you think about it. You are getting maximum enjoyment from your faction this way.
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>>52352992
>She's wearing power armor.
>you admit to being retarded
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>>52353039
/pol/ obviously has a hardon for orthodox Christianity. You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>52352895
>/pol/ initiates phase 2 of its hostile takeover of /tg/
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>>52353044
Exactly, Tzeentch makes people smarter. He makes plans so that other people make plans so that he can plan over those plans.
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>>52353027
>I can't into 12th grade reading comprehension because I'm very triggered
We know.
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>>52353060
>tfw you can never out-weeb space elves.
>tfw your place as tabletop troll was replaced by space elves.
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>>52352457
>and a couple of hive ships flew off with gene adaptations in case of Tau
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>>52353119
>>52353119
>>52353119
>>52353119
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>>52353077
>support Hitler and pagan related nazism
>the very people and ideology who would love to see orthodox Christianity, and Christianity as a whole, removed

Stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
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>>52353097
>I'm going to cover my ass by claiming that the other guy is dumb.

You bloody mong, I was obviously talking about Christ-Chan (does anyone else find it hilarious how close that is to Chris-Chan?) as a larger character than that image.
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>>52353152
Hitler himself thought paganism was a retarded superstition.
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>>52352767
Omg that's a funny meme xD
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>>52353237

Save it friend, it's all yours.
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Migrate here once done and not in the terribad general:
>>52350979
>>52350979
>>52350979
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>>52352312
They are stable, so no random mutations there.

They are huge and strong, useful tools on an endless war.

They are very, very stupid, which makes it not only very easy to make them fall for the Imperial Cult but they are also extremely loyal to it.

If Cat Girls are accepted why shouldn't ugly stupid Ogryn be also?
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>>52351541
>Old metal meganobz
>Still has one unassembled somewhere becuz Iz been muckin' about for the last 10 years and never got around to it
Honestly, the old meganobz aren't the ones that were a zoggin' pain to build. It was the old Metal Ork Warboss HQ with that one arm sticking out and breaking off all the damn time...
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>>52352942
>men who haven't fucked within the last century.
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>>52352416
oh no, someone in the IG is acting out of character. I guess that totally justifies being able put ignores cover or skyfire or interceptor on everything.

also lets have a veteran space marine get 360 no scoped to show how badass our not!space samurai are.
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>>52352454
>HIVE FLEET GORGON COULD NOT BEST TAU, NEITHER SHALL YOU
>Clearly has never heard of Hope's Light, a massive colony seeding ship the Tau built in 886.M41, which was promptly looted by an Ork fleet and turned into a Ork warship named Taukilla that fucked up the local Tau Sept for the next 10 years
Tau get bested a lot. Just be thankful Hive Fleet Gorgon's the worst thing y'all had to deal with lately.

But don't worry. Ghazzy's Galactic WAAAGH!, Hive Fleet Leviathan or ol' Rowboat in full Crusade Mode will be by to ruin the Tau's precious little empire soon enough.
Odds are only the Farsight Enclaves will get by unscathed, knowing how heavy-handed GW is with these sort of "grox shit hitting the fan" scenarios.
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>>52352312
Because the Munitorium is NOT about to let go of there army of Forrest Gumps
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I just had a sexual dream about st. duncan, but he was an astartes. There wasn't anything overtly sexual in the dream, but body was hot for the saint.

Am I a lost cause now?
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>>52352544
Jesus H Christ. I remember when Tau pilots were inferior to Imperuim Pilots who fly crazy ass hours and live longer, but had the technology to make up for it partly. Wouldn't suprise me if fish fly better than Eldar now
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>>52352783
>Warhhammer 40k with more hitsw than WoW and Warframe combined
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>>52354994
nah WoW has way more hits than anything. thats just warcraft.
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