Warhammer 40K general

As a Space Marine player not interested in going outside my army, what can I do to handle a list of Magnus, 3 Daemon Princes, a Tzeentch Herald on a disc with the grimoire, a unit of horrors, and a unit of screamers? The Princes are from the CSM book and the daemons are from the Daemon book, so apparently he can use an allied detachment like that.

>>52350979
Wait how are there 4 general threads up at same time. And they all link to different threads....

>>52351120
You can blame /pol/ for this one, at least >>52350875

>>52351120
Because the one from >>52351196 is from the same fucking retard that has been creating new ones while at page 4 the second it started to sage.

>>52351068
>a Space Marine player
uh idk how about use one if the super op weapons or formations you have access too?

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>>52351068
You know that Grey Knights are technically space marines, right ? You know what's left to do - suffer not the demon to live.

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Why Not Drones?

Codex Tau:
Drone-Net VX1-0
26x Drone squads
2x MV1 Gun Drone
2x MV7 Marker Drone

Piranha Firestream Wing
TX4 Piranha (Team Leader)
Burst Cannon, 2x Seeker Missile
2x MV1 Gun Drone
Twin-linked Pulse Carbine

3x TX4 Piranhas squads
TX4 Piranha
Burst Cannon, 2x Seeker Missile
2x MV1 Gun Drone
Twin-linked Pulse Carbine
TX4 Piranha
Burst Cannon, 2x Seeker Missile
2x MV1 Gun Drone
Twin-linked Pulse Carbine

>>52351344
>super op weapons
>grav
>against daemons
>one of the armies least weak to grav

How about you get a clue before whining about shit.

Someone stop me from buying 2 boxes of SoS.

Please.

Anyone else really looking forward to the 8th ed changes?

I like playing AOS a lot more than what 40k has become. Copying some of its mechanics can only improve the game.

>>52353203
Just get a Culexus

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>>52353203
This; >>52353222

Best distractionfex if the enemy has psykers, which, with spehs muhreen librarians being so popular, they normally do.

>tfw a tank and four squads fire on one model with no effect due to BS1

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Rate my fluffy nurgle list

>>52353222
>>52353278

They don't have a 27" aura that turns off warp charges.

>>52353286

Do you have 7 GUO models?

>>52353327
I have 3, but I was considering picking up some of the better 3rd party ones

>>52353293
No, they have a 12" one, infiltrate, move through cover, fear, a -2 to Look Out Sir! rolls, they ignore all armor saves, insta-kill anything on a wound roll of 6 and insta-kill psykers on any successful wound, all with WS8/I7/A4 and everything that wants to hit them in shooting or melee needs a 6.

>>52353085
what is plasma, what is melta, what is lascannons
i didn't even mention grav you buffoon

>>52351068
>>52351344

Please, do show me the basic Space Marine army lists that aren't
A) Gladius with almost 400 points of free tanks
B) Skyhammer cheese Alpha Striking to kill everything with Grav
C) Grav-Bike spam White Scars
D) Iron Hands deathstar Smashfucker abuse

>>52353344

Good luck painting em.

>>52353501
>plasma
>lascannons
>overpowered

Is this dumbass serious?

>melta
>unique to C:SM
>overpowered

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So what's everyone working on? Any new projects? Had any cool games recently or have some planned?

Been building up these dudes while listening to Ultra Live 2017 all evening. Should probably magnetize those hands and pin the feet but I really can't be arsed to anymore tonight.

>>52353286
that's illegal, it's not a cad

>>52353388

So they kill one unit really well whereas SoS turn off all the psykers on the table...

>>52353698
I'm converting and kitbashing about 20 ork warbikes.

I'm using ebay rescued beat up deffkoptas and marine bikes. No pictures though.

So with the new edition confirmed and coming out soon-ish does that mean it's confirmed that there won't be any other "triumverates"?

Basically I'm wondering if GW is telling everyone but Eldar and Imperium players to get fucked.

>>52353698
My Thousand Sons even if I'm shitty and won't do the models any justice, and then in terms of painting I'll finish up the rest of my start collecting Tzeentch models, Magnus, and a few leftover necrons I have.
Hoping to get some smaller scale rounds in against my NLs buddy and have fun together.

>>52353286
Would it be table illegal to convert a GUO so it looked like the Dunwich Horror?

>>52353721
>SoS turn off all the psykers on the table

Play them and see if that's actually what happens.

>>52353698
Basing and varnishing some kabellites, lazily assembling an Ork bb team, planning out a raider paint scheme when the kabellites are done.

>>52353779
>not playing on 27" x 27" tables

You weirdo.

>>52353749
given the success of these triumverates there will be more

>>52353819
>not playing on your kitchen/dinning room tables regardless of their size
get a life nerds

>>52353766
>Would it be table illegal to convert a GUO so it looked like the Dunwich Horror?
Do you mean wilbur or his brother? Wilbur would be A-OK, but fielding a huge base with nothing on it and saying its an invisible sanity destroying monster might come off as... cheap.

>>52353822
Hopefully the next Triumvirate will be plastic Abaddon and some other shizam

>>52353865
Mortarion + Abbadon + belakor

>>52353720
ok,

7 allied detachments of a GUO and a unit of nurglings each

thrown in rewards and mastery levels for taste

Plastic thunderhawk incoming

Get ready to fight one every time you fight marines because theu will be cheap and easily obtainable from gw stores

>>52353698
Starting my friend's Guilliman commission back up...Fuck the gold trim sooooo much....

>>52353900
ch33ky m8

>>52353938
Gib tips. What have you learned so far?

Also are you going helmet or unhelmet?

>>52353967
Helmet.

I've barely started, but I primed white and did 2 layers of Macragge Blue and am doing Mournfang brown as the undercoat for the gold on the trim. Not much in the way of tips other than thin your paints and have a good brush.

>>52353913
you need two troop choices

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>>52353987
>Not priming with black then gold
Why must you subject yourself to such pain.

>>52353749
Most likely triumverate to come out next is probably Ghazghkull + Mad Dok Grotsnik (da manik git's Ghazzy's personal Dok after all!) + ....Orkimedes(???) or that crazy Kaptain chasing a Void Whale that's heading for Catachan.

>>52353913
I'm pretty sure you must have a primary detachment, and your allied detachments can't be the same faction as the primary

>>52354004
Because I get bitched at on here for priming in black. Now I get shit for priming in white.
The white will give more vivid colors in the end and it's easier to see what I "missed".

Although I do sort of regret not doing the gold first.

>>52353938
Why not white marble instead

>>52354047
It'd really up to you what you prime with, I've just had a pain not priming gold with rubric marines.

All that matters in the end is how easy it was to paint and how you feel about the end result.

>>52351068
Hold 500 pts of Grey Knights in reserve, deploy late game to strengthen your line.

>>52354070
>>52351476
>Grey knights
Against shit in the air? I thought GK were traditionally bad at fighting daemons because of a lack of skyfire.
>>52353515
I've been running Sternhammer Imperial Fists to try to grab enough rerolling heavy bolters to deal with the daemon princes. I don't physically own enough tanks for A, I never saw B as any good, C isn't interesting to me because White Scars have no character other than "The Bike Legion", and D isn't interesting because Iron Hands have even less character than that.

>>52353698
I'm still working on my Imperial Fist Sternguard, but I impulse bought two boxes of Rubric Marines and an Exalted Sorcerer with leftover money from my paycheck. At least I finished building my Heldrake for my warband, though I'm unsure which colors to paint it, Alpha Legion or Word Bearers.

>>52353779
>6x4 board
>3 rhinos with a 27" bubble
>12" deployment zone
>null zone extends to 39" from my board edge at deployment and covers 81" lengthwise
>3.25 by 6.75 feet

Yes. The whole board.

>>52353760
Same here man, I'm not ever going to buy Magnus because I know I won't do the model any justice.

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>>52353501
>plasma, melta or lascannons OP
>not immediately closing your browser, selling your minis and never posting here or playing 40k again after saying something so painfully stupid.

kek

>>52354101
Forgot about flying nonsense, perhaps some SoS?

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Ok, here is my completely legal and battleforged 1850 point 7 great unclean one list

>>52354070
>>holding anything in reserve against tzeentch daemons rather than attempting to assassinate their strongest psykers as early as fucking possible to reduce warp charge, fire output, and the amount of summoned horseshit that's going to steamroll you.

>>52354101
>>Massed IF heavy bolters.
My man.

>>52354152
Trying to stick to Space Marines.

>>52354152
A culexus is fine too.

>>52354181
A Culexus is a space marine now?

>>52354159
Good luck finding anyone wanting to play against you. It comes off as trying way too hard.

If I played that with my Deathwatch I'd honestly just harass you with my Blackstars all game and just make sure my units stayed far away. I probably wouldn't win but c'est la vie.

>>52354159
>>52354218
>mfw 1850 grey knights list with 6 dreadknights.

>>52354164
>>52354181
>>52354198

Ummm OK if you won't try that. Perhaps White Scars reserves, I know you say they lack character but I think space Mongols who use hit and run tactics are badass.

>>52353698
Trying to finish my broadsides so I can actually magnetize their arms on.
Though I have to actually get magnets...

I'm not sure why I'm bothering, when the rail rifles are strictly worse against all but AV14.

>>52354268
>The Heavy Rail Rifle now has Armorbane

Fixed.

Elimination Maniple at 850 is still fair, right?

>>52354268
I would always bully the GK player with them.

>>52353900
It's gonna be mortarion, typhus, and some sort of giant nurgle daemon character. Mark my words

>>52354302
I'd prefer rapid fire over armorbane, 60" range melta guns is a bit much.

>>52354302
I'd agree with >>52354367

A second shot at closer range would do a lot to help it, though full on Rapid fire would feel weird with its role as a stationary gun.

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>>52354268
>>52354302
>>52354367
>>52354389
Instead of buffing tau even more, why not just... nerf missilesides?

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Unsure of something, any help would be appreciated.

Q: Is a baleflamer considered to be a flamer weapon?
A: No.

Haven't played 40k in a while, what is the significance of this? Is it for stuff like attacking the Eldar Avatar, and/or does it mean the Baleflamer doesn't ignore cover anymore?

>>52354419
Also might not be a bad option. They'd probably be fine at heavy 3. They're already a pair of twin-linked autocannons effectively.

>>52354427
no it just means that salamanders don't have a bonus against it

>>52354419
Nerfing missilesides wouldn't make people take the railrifle. They'd just take something else instead.

>>52354427
Only matters for special rules that care about flamers, it's still a template weapon and so ignores cover.

>>52354427
It's only for rules that specifically deal with flamer weapons like for Salamanders.

>>52354438
>>52354437
>>52354435
thank the gods for that. thanks for the swift reply anons.

>>52354427
I really wish that GW would show some brain next edition and clearly put a "Flamer", "Melta", "Plasma" and "Las" tag on weapons. It would save them so many FAQ questions and they wouldn't have to always put that "As defined by the rules" quote in.

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>>52353222
I loved mine so much I bought a second one. People go apeshit trying to kill them - even if there are no Psykers you can still cause some serious damage.

>>52354473
Well, if the rumors about them shortening the core rulebook are true, then they probably won't have a main section like that anyway. That will make things easier, since they can go unit by unit to define what things are.

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>>52353779
>>52353819
>>52354129

Out of curiosity, I roughly sketched out the deployment null zone for a full SoS cadre while killing time at work. One bar is one foot for scale.

>>52354484
first time using one i rolled up against a GK player and Chaos nurgle/psykers against my 3k list.

it was a massacre.

also, could you clarify for me when exactly you can shoot with that psyker gun?

>>52353913
Can't ally with the same faction.

>>52353388
melee is a 5+

CURZEFAG

I CALL THE OUT ON THE PREMISE OF DISLOYALTY TO CHAOS

HOW DO YOU PLEAD?

>>52354503
So basically the only way SoS will be covering much of anything is if you go first and speed them forward. Not too difficult, all things considered.

>>52353698
continuing work on my ugly ass Cawl model. pretty happy with it so far

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>Vanguard vet sergeant with double pistols defeats IG sergeant and Quartermaster in challenges after making a 9"charge and his squad surviving a battle cannon shell
I love it when models do badass things

>>52354006
If Orks get one I'm assuming Ghazghkull and Orkimedes are shoe-ins.

3rd could be Mad Doc, or it could be one of a few other warbosses that Ghazghkull convinces/krumps into joining the WAAAGH.

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>>52353698
Just finished sculpting and 3d printing 15 meganobs for a bullyboyz formation!

>>52353698
>So what's everyone working on?

Just finished up 5 more Noise marines that I've been putting off for a while, not I'm working through a squad of basic CSM. I'm really glad with the progress I'm making

>>52354537
>>52354503
Don't their bawkses also have the aoe f you rule?

>>52354569
They do, so you can flat-out the boxes forward, and if those get blown up, you also have the sisters inside.

Theoretically, you could spread them out even more for more coverage, but that seems more risky, since then you're running empty rhinos and footslogging sisters

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>>52354510
You can shoot at anything you want. If you're not within 18" of a Psyker, it's Assault 3.

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>>52353698
Painting up some deathwatch. Decided to do them one at a time after finishing the silver arms instead of going full production line.

They're interesting to paint. Already want to buy more.

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>>52354564
Where are their heaaaads?

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>>52354537

You basically force your opponents psykers to hide in the corner on T1, which significantly lowers their threat because if any dudes touch any of the bubbles, they lose their blessings.

>>52354569
Yes because the SoS inside can't use their rule while embarked.

>>52354600
It's very easy to cover the whole board for 300pts or so.

>>52353698
I've been painting away my backlog but I'm getting pretty tired of painting. Probably going to break to put together my last sentinel and scrape the mold lines off my last ten kasrkin

>>52354564
>The one army where looking like jagged boxy trash might actually work
>Ruins it by trying to have revealed faces instead of full helmets and weird individual toes

>>52354564
thank you for proving that 3D printing isn't viable

>>52354600
Of course, if they're daemons, they have basically nothing to shoot at you with so you can do what you want and put on your smuggest denied witch face.

>>52354636
If it's only 300 points, then that sounds quite worthwhile. If your opponent has 2 decently kitted-out psykers, they've basically paid for themselves. Even if they hide in the corners, most psychic powers won't have enough reach to do much from there, and then you can just advance further if need be.

They can also get flamers right? Even outside of the anti-psyker bubble, 300 points is actually pretty good for that many special weapon teams in transports.

>>52354501
>That will make things easier,
>more special rules
>will make things easier,

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>>52354617
Calm down son; I hadn't printed any at that point and I'm gonna loot some heads out of the nobz box.

>>52354655
There was a guy in /wip/ that printed a whole Onager Dunecrawler's cockpit and it was so close that the only way to tell them apart at first glance (while unpainted no less) was because there was a large line on the side of it that the guy didn't clean off.


3D printing can be viable, just needs good models to print and a good printer.

>>52354673

75pts for 5 flamers or bolters and 45 pts for the rhino.

65pts for 5 swords instead

So 360pts for a full flamer cadre

>>52354602
nice, but my question was specifically "when". the way it reads, it just says during the psychic phase?

>>52354655
you welcome bud

>>52354673
They can get Flamers and even can trade their Bolters for +2 AP 2 swords while even getting a discount.

If they change something about charging from Rhinos incoming "narrative" joke they'll be disgustingly good.

>>52354682
>How do I know if this Bolt weapon is an actual bolt weapon?
>Should I look up a list in the core rulebook that might be painfully outdated?
>Or should I look to the right and see that this weapon has the 'Bolter' trait on it, making it incredibly obvious?

I dunno, which is easier?

>>52354523
>mfw Yvraine revives Curze as a Penitent Primarch
>Chaosfags faces when their favorite characters get stolen back by loyalists.

>>52354696
>>52354716
That is quite nice. I'm pretty sure that not even Sisters of Battle get massed flamers for that cheap, and the option for swords could be a good way to save some extra points.

>>52354682
There is still arguing wether the Plasma weapons the AdMech uses count for the Haemothrope (or whatever) Reactor, which is basically a fuckhuge AdMech symbol in design, are eligible for its Plasma buff because its rule states "Plasma Weapons (as defined in Warhammer 40k: the Rules)" and that only has Plasma Guns, Cannons and Pistols.

A coherent and consistent weapon typing system to just tag onto a gun would save all of those discussions.

>>52354722
>I dunno, which is easier?
First since the rulebook also provides you information about other weapon which you and your opponent armies using

>>52354784
Right, because they definitely listed every single weapon in the main rulebook? Not just a handful of imperial ones and other random shit? And kept it up to date with every release afterwards?

It makes far more stuff to just print 'Flamer' next to everything that's supposed to be a flamer, and then instead of having a short list of flamers in the main rulebook, you just have the 'Flamer' quality which interacts with certain special rules.

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>>52350979
Is this a good Custodes CAD?

>>52354724
L u L, Lorgar is my favorite you shitlord

>>52354742

A command squad with 5 flamers in a rhino is 130pts, so it's actually 10pts cheaper. That's why I'm really tempted to buy 2 more squads to go with the one I got from BoP.

>>52354784
See >>52354758

The core rules don't list Plasma Cavaliers and Heavy Plasma Cannons. Because of that, if you go RAW and dont take the FAQ for that Inquisition wargear into account, the AdMech would not be allowed to benefit from their own building.

>>52354832
Is it bad I love this?

>>52354700
Yes, during the Psychic phase. If there are Psykers you can throw S2 Psyk out Grenades. Close combat is awesome though.

>>52354832
I'd personally take Cawl over Celestine. He's better for pure tanking and deals more damage. Celestine has the speed advantage and potential respawn, if that ever is necessary, but your force will probably be slow anyway.

Unless you plan to put everything into reserves and then deep strike all these golden boys. Then yes, it's definitely a fun army and I'd love to play it.

>>52354853
And I agree with you about
>A coherent and consistent weapon typing system
Not about AoS-like "Imao every unit have it own unique trademarkable weapons".

>On my way to LGS to play my Slaaneshi daemons against grey knights.
>Get rear ended, Army sitting in front seat, goes to the floor and gets rekt
>Let opponent know the situation, he gets a game in with dude who just walked into the shop.
>Tell him sorry I can't play but my army is literally in pieces.
"It's alright anon, it wouldn't have been much of a game anyway, I built my list to stomp the shit out of yours."
>I've never played him before.
>Literally talking shit after I just got done having to deal with insurance and police.
I have never wanted to beat someone so badly in a game before...I really hope when the time comes that it's an absolute ass stomp.

Also how does an 1850 greyknights army get 18 warp charges? that number seems a bit high to me.

Why is it that the Adeptus Mechanicus never seems to use Melta weapons when every other imperial army uses them in one way or another?

They obviously have some equivalents, like the Neutron Laser, and have Arc weapons against vehicles, but it makes no sense from a fluff perspective that the suppliers of the entire imperial armory would not use one of the most reliable and potentially weapon systems in the entire galaxy that even xenos use. The only Melta gun I recall ever seeing in AdMech use is Cawl's sun laser thing, and that one is a unique relic and his creation.

>>52354981
To be fair, they also don't use Transports at all. Or any sort of tanks really.

>>52354700
Yeah. Any time during the psychic phase. Warp Charge specifically says it happens at the beginning though, so you do that first, but anytime you could manifest a power you can instead choose to shoot with the Animus. So it could be before or after or between using any other powers.

>>52354965
That sucks, what an asshole.
What is it with anons breaking their armies these days? Just had that poor Ork guy whose shelf fell down a few threads back and now you.

As for the GK: don't have their units in memory but if only the cheapest stuff is taken and it's a high die roll, I could imagine 18 charges being possible.

>>52354981
they seem to like staying out of melee, and melta guns keep them in close range, so I guess that might be a reason?

>>52354965
that sounds about right to me.. remember, everything has BOP.

if you wanna be an ass, bring flying units and anything with armor as hell have a hard time with it.

>>52354965
Jesus, what an asshole. My GK usually get like 15 max, and that's with running shit barebones, no upgrades. I lose WC to get more toys. So he must've been running a Lib Conclave. I can get like 20 base with it.

His list is probably something like 2 Librarians, 2 Term Squads, possibly 2 Purifier Squads, 2(or 3 if he used a CAD) Dreadknights, and Draigo or a Lib Conclave.

>>52353865
Abbadon, Luther and doomrider

So, I'm looking to run a heavy support formation for my Black Templars and I'm curious what would be most point cost effective and "fun".

3x Vindcators (@360pts)
3x Thunderfire Cannons (@300pts)
3x Whirlwinds (@195pts + 45pt Land Speeder)
3x Venerable Dreadnoughts w/ TL Autocans (@390pts)
Land Raider Spearhead (@740pts)

I'm running a fairly typical BT army (Crusader squads, Rhinos, LRC) and I'm playing casual with friends at 1500-1850. I'm personally leaning on three Land Raiders, only because I've never seen anyone running three.

>>52354893
The plan is to DS everything but the Dred.
Otherwise, Cawl would be a good alternative.

>>52355058
Thunderfires

>>52355004
They do still use their train transports they have in 30k from time to time and the codex also just says that 'most of the time they walk, not all the time. Also make extensive use of drop ships.

>>52355023
They do still have dedicated melee units, specifically Dragoons and the Sicarians. It seems weird that they would think about giving the Dragoon rider a pistol or sticking some Autocannons onto its frame but not to glue a Meltagun on it. A Sicarian unit having 1 Meltagun with them also sounds like a good idea, since the Infiltrators are usually the first to be in Melta range and Shred a vehicle to death.

Just seems like such an oversight to not have them use it at all.

>>52355058
Well, if you already have Landraiders for your Templars, you might not need more.

I would go for Vindicators, since S 10 blasts will help with enemy vehicles that your force might have trouble with. The Venerable dreads might be more fluffy and fun though, and Autocannons will be helpful as well.

>order forge world guo
>death guard are revealed the week after
I'm not sure whether I should be angry that I spent all that money on the forge world guo since the current gw guo is shit or happy since the gw guo is potentially receiving a new model

>>52351068
Those space wolf flyers that remove models from the game

>>52354863
Gold is easy to love.

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>>52355021
Well I've always rather have had an open tray to carry my stuff in, as it helps me remember if I'm forgetting anything and it lets me show off my army if a tournament is having a painting competition. It means I either need to actually invest in building a carrying case now or magnitize all the bases and find a way to strap the thing so it wont move....it just sucks, it sucks that I have to rebuild easily 1500pts of my stuff, and possibly have to repaint things that I've forgotten how I got those colors.

>>52355029
Yeah that's what I keep hearing he fears actually.

>>52355039
Pretty sure you hit the nail on the head though, he's always talking about his purifiers and dreadknights...pretty sure he runs Draigo too.

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>>52355087
The FW GUO is likely to be larger than any new one and at the very least will make a good Ku'Gath.

>>52355058
LR Spearhead is definitely the way to go if you plan on actually having consistent success when delievering your payload.

Otherwise, if you want to keep the rest of your force as smaller units and potentially walk a bit, Vindicators are fucking great at forcing Gone to Ground for your guys. Just make sure that you don't kill them because of scatter.

>>52353515
What a salty faggot.

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>Glued Guillimans backpack on before priming
Fuck me in the fucking ass this thing is annoying. Should I chop it off at the wires and the actual attachment?

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>tfw your friends get mad at you and refuse to play a game with you for wanting to test out Magnus for one game
>tfw your friends will gladly go against the tyranid player who's list consists of mucolid spores 6 flyrants and a scyethed hierodule
I don't get it am I missing something

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>>52355164
Nevermind, it came off easily!

>>52355168
>friends
>not letting you test something for once
Your friends are assholes, anon.

>tfw Grimaldus can't join a unit with his Servitors but Celestine can with her lesbos

This is sexist to the highest degree.

>>52355168
>local waac nid fag at lgs
>his list is basically what you described
>decide to take some razor wings and void ravens
>gets super salty when I shoot down his hive tyrants
>he starts throwing his dice all over the place
>says my list isn't fair and I should do a rematch with a different list because the army he plays is already shit
>meanwhile I'm playing Deldar without using Ynnari rules

>>52355296
Nobody who runs any sort of spam list has a right to complain about things not being fair. The entire point of a spam list is to use so many of a single good thing that you'll overwhelm a list that's more blanaced and doesn't have enough answers to it.

>>52355296
How much impact do you think a single Razorwing would have? I've been playing DE for a good bit, but I do a Grotesquerie + DE(or Ynnari as the same build if bragging rights are on the line between my friends and I), I've never owned a flyer either, so it'd be cool to have one.

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>>52353515

>>52354841
Don't worry. The power of the Ynnari will cause your choirboy to see the error of his ways.

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>>52355422
>Alderi
No

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So let's say the following happens in the Gathering Storm:
>Abaddon and the Traitor Primarchs gets tossed back into the Eye of Terror (it's a given at this point)
>Orks win Octarius War (Leviathan loses a tendril, but its got plenty more where that came from anyway), come out as powerful and tech-savvy as the boyz from back in the War of the Beast with Ghazzy leading the way, and looking for another foe to WAAAGH! against that isn't the Imperium on Armageddon (since it's probably gone too, knowing GW)
>ol' Rowboat finds out about the Tau's little empire and that it's been encroaching on Ultramar turf lately

Note that the 2nd Agrellan Campaign ended in 999.M41, and Aun'va aka the Ethereal Supreme aka Premier of the Space commies was just Culexus'd, and one of the Tau worlds is already being targeted by a tendril of Hive Fleet Leviathan.


On a scale of 1 to Exterminatus, how screwed are the Tau right now?

>>52355168
That guy looks like he's doing the clenched fist meme

>>52355487
Magical "we must sell big suits" grade plot armour will protect them

>>52355134
I was arguing that barring those very few formations and unit combinations a vast majority of Space Marine units are incredibly underperforming.
When you have a total of 54 different units and a whopping 8 are used outside of busted formations or for tax purposes, you have a fucking problem, especially when you have over 30 different formations and detachments and only a very minor group of those is viable.

How can you idiots not get the simple concept that having to shoehorn units into a set of very specific configurations in order to make them good does not equate to actual good units?

>>52355315
I know man, Space Marines are ork tier now.

>>52354564
aren't those 28mm bases?

Those are some damn tiny Meganobs.

>>52354148
I wish I had easy access to ap2 shooting :^(

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How does this look for a 1v1v1 battle? I'll be up against Orks and Scions/IG.

I just got into the hobby after years of talking to my buddy about it. Started learning to paint on some spare boyz he had.

I'm really loving the themes behind Nurgle Marines and Daemons. Are there rules for Nurgle that aren't like specific to the Death Guard? And if so what books should I be getting?

>>52355626
The rules for Death Guard are basically the only special way to run Nurgle Marines, though they're really nice rules. You could easily come up with fluff for your own warband and still use the rules though.

>>52355574
Look like 40mm to me.

>>52355626
What about just running the daemons? Unclean One, beast, nurglings, zombies, etc?

>>52355671
The scissors in the shot make me question that. I'd need something else present to give me a sense of scale better. Otherwise using those I'd think those are standard infantry bases.

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>>52355626
Keep in mind that although the Death Guard rules are technically there to represent the old 14th legion no one will complain if you use them to represent your own Nurgle aligned force. The are both really good, and really thematic, so you should use them. The books you'll need are Codex Chaos Daemons for Nurgle Daemons, Codex Chaos Space Marines, and Traitor Legions. I'd hold off though since we don't know how the new edition of the game, rumored for June, will effect the use of older books.

>>52355646
>>52355686
oops

>>52355626
What >>52355740 said. Also, Nurgle marines are getting what seems to be an update with new models pretty soon, so you may really want to wait and see there.

>>52355773
Yeah thats what got me into wanting to start with this. But in the meantime I like the concept of a generic Nurgle force better than a traitor legion. I dunno maybe too many RPG's in my life, but I like the idea of making something more fresh and my own than controlling something with its own established lore if that makes any sense. I saw that the GW site has what appears to be Khorne forces that play without marines so I was hoping to do the same with a Nurgle force.

>>52355807
I get the feeling that those Khorne forces were from Age of Sigmar, which is essentially a fantasy game.

Your options for a non-marine Nurgle force would basically boil down to using the rules for Renegades and Heretics from forgeworld and running a sort of Traitor Imperial Guard army full of cultists. Not the sort of thing I would recommend to someone just starting though.

Either way, the idea of making up your own Nurgle army is totally what this game is about, and you could potentially mix together Nurgle marines, cultists, and Daemons, and come up with your own fluff for a force however you want.

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>>52355807
There isn't "Nurgle Daemonkin" like for Khorne yet. But yes, you can play pure Nurgle Daemons if you like. You'll just need the Daemons codex. Grab the Age of Sigmer Nurgle box to get you started. They use the same models in 40k.

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>>52355550

>>52355550
Most of that is Marines just have way more stuff than other factions. Internal balance problems are not limited to Marines by any means.

>>52355889
He's just copy-pasting days old grognard bullshit to garner (You)s, you know.

>>52355862
>>52355831
Alright thanks guys! I'll head to the local hobby shops tomorrow and see what I can scrounge up.

GUYS QUICK

WHICH CHAOS SPACE MARINE CHAPTER IS THE BEST

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>>52355994
The Steel Bretheren, of course

>>52355994
WORLD EATERS MOTHERFUCKER

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>buy Exalted Sorcerer kit
>alright, time to get 3x Disc Sorcerers
>lol only one disc
>okay, well, at least I'm sure I can make a variety of neat poses
>lol only three poses with a variety of nearly identical arm and staff load-outs
Fucking hell, it's a nice kit, but it's amazingly light on actual options. Also, why the fuck are there sword bits if we can't take them?

Should I:

>Expand my Greenwing DAngels
currently a 500 point army with another 1000 points available of elites and chaplains that I will never realistically get to field. I don't really know where I would take the army next, but I like it as it is.

>Start a Death Guard project
Hyper aggressive fast death guard with lots of raptors and deep striking things. I already have a lot of assorted chaos.

>Start a pure Tempestus army
I've had thoughts of this for quite a while but I've never jumped on it.

>Finish my AoS army
I still have so much to paint why did I pick a horde list

>Something purely hobby:
I could pick up an orc or tau kit just to build and paint. I picked up a box of flash gitz once and while it was a lot of effort to build and paint, it was also pretty fun.

>>52355994
>WHICH CHAOS SPACE MARINE CHAPTER IS THE BEST
Dark Angels

>>52356078
the kit was designed months before the rules were written, and the rules were written by someone who didn't give a shit.

>>52356153
Do you get regular games in? If so which army do you usually play?

>>52356173
>Do you get regular games in? If so which army do you usually play?
sadly I don't, I wish I did. Last time I played I got out a bunch of really old models from my collection and lost horribly who would have thought

>>52356153
>pure tempestus army

you'd have more fun punching yourself in the face ya know.

>>52356233
Whats worse? Pure Stormtroopers or pure Deathwatch?

>>52356190
>play my old world eaters
>rhinos get popped on turn one, one of the berserker squads gets pinned
>another other two get shot to hell
>a fourth squad manages to stay at full strength, charges a squad of necron warriors, and stays in combat with that one squad for the rest of the game
>I have my lord break away in a last ditch effort and he rolls poorly on his daemon weapon, achieving nothing

>the greatest assassin of all time is a chick
>but we can't have female space marines

>>52356297
Aren't assassins were made before marines?

>>52356258
tough call

both are over costed and overly elite, but they each have benefits. Tempestus get a crap ton of USRs stock. Deathwatch vets can be kind of scary if you resist the urge to buy them fifty billion points of wargear, but at the end of the day they are still just premium priced space marines.

1. Do models that wield template weapons carry a side-arm, for example a Space Marine armed with a Flamethrower can shoot an enemy model that is out of range of his Flamethrower with a Bolt Pistol?
2. And is it true that a unit that killed an enemy unit in the shooting phase can't assault any nearby enemy units?

>>52356153
My vote goes to finishing up the AoS stuff, or expanding on your Chaos or Dark angels.

>>52356258
I'd say pure Stormtroopers. Deathwatch has more overall variety in the nonsense they can pull, and overcosted elite Imperial Guard is still worse than overcosted elite Space Marines.

>>52354561
>Angron is comming to armageddon
>Implying Tuska won follow cus theres bloodthirsters dodging him and his 8th edition power house ork boyz and hes pissed about it.

>>52356347
1. Yes
2. Also yes. The exception being if you kill a transport in the shooting phase, you can assault the passengers.

>>52356367
Thank you.

>>52356347
1. It depends on what the model is equipped with. Most often, things that can take special weapons do so by replacing their main gun. If they have a second gun or grenades? They get to choose what to fire.

2. You can only assault something you shot at, barring transports that you blow up since you can charge the passengers after. Split Fire is a surprisingly nice rule for assault units for that reason.

>>52354965
>Grey knights
>Stomping anything
>Let alone one of the best Codices in the game.

What's a good ranged weapon for a Dark Angels company master?

>>52356350
It'd be nice if Traitor Legions had some smaller and more varied formations than decurions and "3-5 units of terminators/raptors and a lord"

Small projects are easier to finish than say, cold buying into age of sigmar with 1000 points of low point cost infantry.

Chapter Tactic: Blood Ravens

Blood Raven may take any Relic from any Armies of the Imperium codex or supplements.

>>52356458
Epic meme bro, have an upvote.

>>52353859
Hey warp daemons are invis in black library books all the time.

Let it happen.

Also

Can Warp Daemons change shape? Can I make something out of crab claws and paint it and say it's a GUO? Might smell like one too.

>>52356449
I just stick with a CAD for that reason. That, and the fact that I have an unhealthy obsession with making and modelling a bunch of Chaos HQs to the degree that I'll never fit them all in one army.

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>>52354965
Was a backseat witness to a t-boning incident. Driver struck an illegal and ICE deported him.

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>>52356367
>>52356390
So how is the second situation explained in the books? Are the models cheering and high-fiving each other in the Assault phase?

>>52356517
It kinda makes sense that you couldn't concentrate on shooting a target and then charge a completely different one in the opposite direction.

>>52356328
The forgotten female space marine chapters are floating dormant in space, waiting for emps to awaken them.

>>52356517
I think it's a matter of them being focused on that unit, and then not being able to switch targets easily.

It is kind of silly though when the units you were shooting are grouped close together. Leaving 1 alive in the squad means you could potentially declare a multi-charge against both. Killing all of them cuts that possibility off.

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Why can't nids fire into combat? They seem the least likely to care about friendly fire.

>>52356570
Because it keeps the rules cleaner and the game isn't aiming for perfect simulation.

>>52356078
>lol only one disc
I mean it's expensive, but the beastmen on discs are pretty good donors. You can use them as heralds or something after pinching their rides.

>>52356570
The way 40k shooting works it'd be only useful for indirect fire weapons.

>>52356570
>>52356611
yep because once you have that as an argument you have the problem of Ork friendly fire since they love fighting.
You also have the issue of Assassins, Eldar, Tau and any model with over BS6 being able to fire into combat cos "muh accuracy" and "muh markerlights"
Some blanket rule that is based off BS might work, but it would be more effort than GW likes to put in

>>52356570
>house rule: Nids may fire into combat but if you roll a 1 the shots hit your own units.

>>52356611
>clean rules
>40k
That clearly stopped being a priority long ago.

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>>52356556

>>52356190
Well, if you don't play much Orks are fun as fuck on the hobby side.

Kitbashing, converting, scratchbuilding, everything is fair game.

These have been some of the worst threads I've ever seen, at least cheetah anon was on topic.

>>52356802
>Samus is brought into 40k
>Nids proceed to shit ALL OF THE BRICKS

>>52356556
>the two redacted space marine chapters are female ones
>GW can actuallly retcon fem space marines with this
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

>>52356361
>implying Tuska would leave Ork-Valhalla

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>>52356407
I haven't played in a while so I can't drop my 2 cents but he seems to think he's going to survive a unit of 20 Daemonettes connecting with his fucking 5-6 man termie squads.
>>52356516
While that's funny, I'm glad the damage was minimal other than the army getting rekt.
The funny thing is that I was looking at the army the other day thinking about how I should take them off their bases so I could rebase them. Guess Slaanesh approved my wish but Khorne wanted to put in his opinion.

>watch battle report
>one dude sweeps thirty other dudes, even when seven other guys from his squad died

Can't wait for 8th edition

>>52356834
And I bet you thought Geneseed was rare. Silly boys, space marines will marry space marine wives and raise baby space marines.

>you will never fuck and corrupt a sister or eldar so hard, they turn into a daemonette

why is life so unfair

>>52356831
>implying samus isn't the primarch of the 2nd legion
>she was the goto for eradicating xenos
>emps had to redact her after her fusion escapades

>>52356835
>implying Ghazzy isn't the type of Warboss who would stomp all the way into the Eye of Terror and drag Tuska out of the Warp just to turn him loose on Armageddon

>>52356837
Do you run a slaanesh chariot or are those not worth it?

Are there any daemon slaanesh battle reports?

>10 bolter SoS and rhino is 195pts

I think found my kill team. I can even stick another storm bolter on the rhino.

>>52356905
>Do you run a slaanesh chariot or are those not worth it?
I own 2 exalted chariots but never take them because of how easily they explode (open topped, garbage armor, w/ 5 HP and hardly any weapons)
>Are there any daemon slaanesh battle reports?
one of my plans when I get back to playing is to write some. So keep an eye out I guess?

>>52356937

Which SOS is that? Sword or Bolter?

>>52356985
>10 bolter SoS

>>52354159
At that point you're better off making an incursion with a minimum tallyband and furies unit.

>>52356994

Thank you.

Sword Sisters would be pretty cool, too, though I'd really have to stretch out my points at the end because it's 175 pts. Probably 10pts for a superior, 10pts for a HKM, and 5pts for the storm bolter.

>>52356994

I am a blind person, evidently.

Sorry about that.

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>>52350979
What do we make of my list?

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so i'm a big lorefag for deathwatch

are they actually good in actual gameplay?

>>52357063
Nah, they are bad, but make for good allies.

I recommend a Sisters, Deathwatch and Grey Knight group-up army.

>>52357043
Have you played something like that before and if so, how was it?

Where is your contingent of rough riders?

>>52357063
Overcosted; they're still MEQ's but with better equipment. You could throw in a Kill-Team or two as allies tho.

>>52357027

Wouldn't be bad though. Likely not as good as bolters but they'd still be scary.

>>52357077
>mixing ordos
bad anon

the obviously superior group team up is deathwatch, scions and the an inquisitor to bring the servo skulls

Anyone got Talons of the Emperor?

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>>52357138
>not mixing Ordos

>>52357097

Yea. If be afraid they wouldn't be able to get into position fast enough. Like, one with FnP and one with Infiltrate is nice, and then I would probably have to take a Sabateur for vehicles, though everyone being S4 means I can glance rear armor. However, Ap2 means I can explode on a 5/6 with a Sabateur, which is hilarious.

Either way, 10 3+ fearless fear causing Ld10 models with I5 and 2 attacks base seem pretty solid in KT outside of shit like Kroot tide. Bolters are prpbabky. The best way to go, though because I can either force the ranged wounds or charge the dangerous weapons and hopefully have the attack advantage, even with S3.

Exodites Codex fucking when?

>>52357263
After Orks

>>52357063
people will say they are overcosted and yet they are the same price as sternguard or chosen, only better than both of them.

As a core force they struggle because they are so elite, but as accessories to another force they are plenty.

Think before going nuts on wargear for them.

>tfw Eldar become fucking Imperium allies
Fuck.

>>52356635
You know there is a unit that can fire into combat, hitting friendlies right?

>>52354684
looking forward to seeing one painted

>>52357434
there may be, but making it a faction wide rule will make other faction's player bases rage since they'll find some fluff reason no matter how obscure to go "I should be able to do that too!"

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Was messing around with ideas for my sisters and came up with this. Having TONS OF BOLTERS from when minimum squad sizes for BS was 10 leaves me with, well, tons of bolters, so fuck it.

>>52357418
>knights and wraithknights side by side

>>52357263
>Thinking there's going to be another new Eldar release any time soon
We Primarch edition now.

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>wanna build a tyranid cqc list with as much cool looking units as possible
>already have 10 hormagaunts, 8 rippers, 5 stealers, a Flyrant and a Trygon
>what could I add to this ?

I don't care if it's not WAAC in the slightest, I just want to nom things to death (or probably just die trying)

>>52357565
Lictors and ravenors,

>>52357496
Why no Hospitalier?

Also, the unique detachment is a bit better, re-rolling saves for a turn is likely going to help more than OS.

>>52354389

>A second shot at closer range would do a lot to help it, though full on Rapid fire would feel weird with its role as a stationary gun.

Broadsides were historically able to buy the ability to walk and shoot until 6th edition, Tau are very big on mobility and whilst they're forced by practicality to make some gun platforms that don't outright fly, having a walking heavy fire platform that strides to stay relevant is entirely their style.

If a rail rife is rapid fire a heavy one shouldn't really be single shot, and a heavy rail rifle and plasma rifle broadside that advances, getting more dangerous as it closes is very fluffy.

>>52357156

>GREY KNIGHT
Commander and the leader
>SOB
She is the joy and the laughter
>Deathwatch guy
He is the toughest fighter
>INQUISITION SAVE THE DAY
Purging heresy! Trying to save the Galaxy! Here they come just in time! The Inquisition!
>INQUISITION

Hey anons, what's better: A mob of 12 Slugga Boyz with Nob that has a Klaw and Boss Pole in a Trukk with a Rokkit Launcha, Ram, and Boardig Planks, or a mob of 20 Stormboyz with Nob and Boss Pole?

>>52357713
>Hospitaliar
I only take her when the command squad rolls with the Canoness. In this case, they're just rolling around with 5 heavy flamers.

>actually suggesting VTF
It's shit, and ObSec is nice with a blob of 20 sisters. Having a single turn of rerolling 1s on saves doesn't really make up for that.

>>52357822

Next edition the Stormboys will probably be better because jump troops getting the charge is easy, and they'll strike first.

>>52357825
That does seem nice. I don't know if the Stormboyz sprue has any Nob bitz tho, I know the Boyz one does, but I don't know about the Stormboyz one.

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>>52357800
But who is the mayor

>>52358176
the fucking guy who lost 100 Baneblades

>>52357565
Many rending raveners, way more hormagaunts, base carnifexes with no upgrades

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So how do you rate the changes teased already? Which faction would benefit by them the most?

>>52358552
Initiative on the charge is fucking humongous for orks.

>>52358552

Orks. Definitely Orks.
No AP fucked them over hard, but with save modifiers they can do work on 2+ units.
That and the death of >I2.

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Wanna start collecting. Will this do as a cheap starting army or is it just too shitty?

>>52358653
A deredeo in a cheap starting army?

>>52358724
Need some AA and it works as a makeshift anti everything, no?

Also, the starting army is obviously just a staging point, I could use the Deredeo in future armies that are more min/maxed.

>>52356847
I've had a single Ork boy with Shoota kill 2 Kataphrons in melee, too, even though his Nob and the other 19 boys had died.

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>>52358558
>>52358605
What about Tau? Not gonna lie - I want to run these fluffy fuckers in 8e so I'm especially interested in them

>>52358653
Retarded Chapter Master build and foot Sternguard is also retarded.

post good w40k music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YROOgLD-wtU

>>52358895
I don't mind if the game will be a piece of shit - ork theme is amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25wYPsJ7Kds

Anon, have you Tiji sector (or anything sector) generator? I cant find link, all of them are crashed

>>52355487
>On a scale of 1 to Exterminatus, how screwed are the Tau right now?

0, the Tau thrive as a species and become infinitely stronger the moment they're threatened, whether through pulling new tech out their ass or proving, once again, that Tau Commanders who have fought maybe a dozen wars are infinitely tactically superior to everyone else for whatever reason.

>>52356441
> good ranged weapon for a Dark Angels company master
Trick question, there really isn't any, you're better taking an Auspex and marking targets for your heavy weapons or bikes.

But you have two shooting relic options with Assault so that would be the closest along with combi-melta. Haven't checked out the relics you get for taking Celestine yet, maybe there's something good there.

>>52359039
Man, I realized the Xenos Allegiance (Tau, Necrons, Orks and Nids) is getting more true.

And I know it's just a shitpost wish-list.

>>52357063
Solid but you have to remember they're T4 and 3+ so don't try giving everyone a special weapon unless you play in a specific meta. Focus on the special ammo - if you deep strike enough small teams you can actually wipe out the opponents important units and then survive the rest of the battle but if your dice screw you over you're fucked.

>>52359103
I see Tau allied with Eldars and Imperium. Ribbentrop Guineapig is more likely to talk with Tau than the old Imperium.

>>52359139
I wouldn't be so sure, Guilliman has already broadcasted his intent to turn the Imperium to a pure military state, learning be damned, the Tau can't really offer anything in this regard except a ceasefire treaty so the Imperium can dedicate more resources to its ends.

Speaking of which, I wonder if half the AdMech is going to flip their shit over Guilliman's decree, which goes completely against the Quest for Knowledge (this is providing they even listen to him entirely in the first place, but c'mon, this is the AdMech, the same guys who couldn't follow the Emperor's orders without questioning.)

>>52359157
>the Tau can't really offer anything in this regard except a ceasefire treaty so the Imperium can dedicate more resources to its ends.
Well, they are Japs so they can be pretty handy in fight against Chaos. Also Crons are to treacherous to help against Nids invasion so maybe Tau will take this role

>>52359191
The issue there is how do you get them to fight against Chaos? They can't go outside their own Empire without taking years or even decades to get anywhere, right now they're most useful where they are, acting as a buffer between the Imperium and some of the Tyranid splinter fleets.

>>52359216
Well, kill me but what if Imperium will take Tau on their ships? Being on ship using Warp-Drive would kill them or something?

>>52358953
bump

>>52356905

A Seeker Chariot will remove its own points cost from a single HoW attack. On the other hand, its AV10/2HP against shooting and T3/1W in CC. It costs as much as a Terminator, so spam them MSU.

Exalted and Hellflayer are too expensive in comparison. The Exalted does nothing you cannot do with 2 Seekers taped together, and the Hellflayer pays way too much for 2-3 S3 attacks.

Calvacade formation is nothing but buffs and dirt cheap when taking minimum squadrons.

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>>52359302
Dont forget they can jink.

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>>52357565
Don't give up hope, this works rather well in my experience

>>52359317

Doesn't that only apply to bikes and skimmers? Slaanesh ones are all land vehicles.

>>52359491
Chariots have jink, they also ignore immobilized results on the damage chart.

>>52355733
Those are big ugly kitchen scissorsm, all on 40mm

>>52358605
>Orks are a Melee race!
>Move 4"

>>52358804
no difference here. They dont care about the assault rule either way (since even if they struck before orks, their doing jack shit) and in shooting they rely on weight of numbers rather than any sort of rending/penetration mechanic.

They're still okay though, take them.

Wonder if they'll Sigmarize the rules enough so that both games can play against one another.

>>52359655
I don't think so. 40k is to important for GW to make this kind of revolution. Yeah, rules will be simplified to bring more new players and their money but they want to keep as many old players as possible too. As an AoS player I would like to see both games as different things but sharing the best mechanics like free warscrolls/datasheets, short and easy core rules etc.

>>52359655
Looks like they'll be different enough

>>52359729
>but they want to keep as many old players as possible too.
bwahahahahaha
Also, they will keep old players through the models.

>>52359729
>>52359808
I'm glad to hear that, because there's some parts of Sigmar I really hate.

>>52359841
>because there's some parts of Sigmar I really hate.
Of course there are - nothing is perfect mate. It's just important to keep a constructive criticism role in discussion instead of le age of smegma-tier argument

>>52359832
Why do you think that they don't want to keep old players? It's pretty sure that they will not nuke 40k like they nuked WFB. They sacrificed a dead game to learn something - just don't tell my you don't see any change in GW

>>52359893
Let me be clear though, there's some things Sigmar does well. For example, (and I know it's older than AoS) but I like individual unit movement speeds. I also like putting the special rules for units on their battlescrolls or whatever they call unit cards. There's a lot done well.

>>52358804
they would be better in cc now.

crisis suits would strike first and since they got 2 s5 attacks they might actually kill something.

>>52358748
If you want cheap as shit anti-air, get obe of those hh dreads and buy a second AC/MM bit. Do some conversion work for a whole lot cheaper, and get affordable anti-air. That or get an aegis defense line with anti air piece

>>52358653
Equip those scions with plasma/melta guns, they'll die but respawn with the guns next time you drop. Use them for as needed vehicle/teq elimination each turn your enemy has to address.

>>52354268
Rail rifles look way better though, so you can have them look good while on the shelf and then switch to effective weapons to play.

Good thing grog-fag made his thread so fucking early that this one is barely even full. At least every shitposter imagineable is over there.

So, how fair and fun is an Elimination Maniple at a mere 850 points?

>>52358176

>Gulliman drives around terra all day in a megaphone van shouting "VOTE FOR GULLIMAN FOR MAYOR"

>>52359893
>Why do you think that they don't want to keep old players?
It's not what I'am saying,my point that they cares about old players much less than about pleasing new players.
>They sacrificed a dead game to learn something
Well at first they killed game with their shitty policy.
>you don't see any change in GW
It's sort of irony heard it from newcomer, but yeah I see changes, they finallylearned about internet outside their web-store and hired Ali from London to make forum.
But their core policy of AAA-company is the same "fuck you if you aren't agree with us at 100%", their game-designe still low as fuck.

>>52357800
>Fulgrim as HIM
>Magnus as Mojo Jojo

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I hope that we will keep this thread until page 10 and then make a new one, right? I don't really get what the fuck is going on with making new thread when the old one is on page 3 lately

>>52354360
That's probably too much plastic. Mortarion is going to be bigger than RG, BC, the avatar or the saint. Typhus is bigger than a normal terminator. At most you'd get a space-marine size character on top of that.

Also, it seems that they aren't that keen on replacing existing models with triumvirate ones. Only Celestine and Cypher had models before and they were pretty obscure characters which few people owned. It seems like the main market for death guard special characters (i.e. death guard players who like special characters) are likely to own him already.

>>52357043
>Only one company command squad.
Do you even understand the number of possibilities you're missing out on?

>>52360122
It's been a single faggot doing it and every single thread of him not only started in a shitpost but immediately devolved into a cesspool of shitposting monkeys and mods don't do jackshit against him while banning Cheetah fag instead, when all he ever did was post cats and >Aeldari.

That said, I hope to god that we can just piggyback off this thread with a new, proper one instead of having to follow up on the cancerpit that is the other thread.

>>52354473
Hopefully 8th edition will have a decent keyword system.

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>>52360108
Well, I'm really suprised with some of their decisions like supporting the creator of free unofficial AoS list builder instead of killing it

>As most of you will no doubt know, Warscroll Builder has been a great resource for Warhammer Age of Sigmar players ever since the game was launched. Tens of thousands of hobbyists have been using the free site to write army lists and inform their collections. The web designer and owner of Warscroll Builder, Tony Pacheco, is an avid painter and gamer, and a huge Warhammer enthusiast. He’s also a really nice guy and great member of the Warhammer community.

>So we felt that the right thing to do would be to support Tony and help bring Warscroll Builder to even more hobbyists. So very soon, the official Warhammer Age of Sigmar Warscroll Builder will come to live here on the Community site. We’re going to make sure that this great tool stays free, is regularly updated, and work with Tony to continue to develop the functionality.

>>52360162
>supporting t
And how exactly they "supported it"?
But yeah sort of surprize, too badit didn't fix AoS rules

>>52360162
Having seen CCP flail about with their own EVE fitting tool after years of leaving it up to third parties, I'm leery of what this 'support' will actually be.

>>52360180
I don't really see which rules should be fixed but GHB2 is coming so if you are waiting for any fixes - you will see them

>>52360160
This thread was pretty decent and cushy - at least it wasn't a "le derpus vult maymay xD" thread

>>52360207
Yeah, regular threads with normal OPs have all been normal even these past days. I wasn't kidding when I said that it's been the grog-fag thread sthat were bad. All of the encouraged shitposting from the get-go and he should just be taken off this board already.

>>52360207
>which rules should be fixed
All of them, from doubleturn mechanic to allegiance system
>at least it wasn't a "le derpus vult maymay xD" thread
Top kek, go back to your general

Lets hope that one will be the only general

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>>52360351
>to allegiance system
Now I know you are troll

Currently sitting on ~20 Marines with various Power Weapons and Chainswords, roughly as many Bolter Dudes with a handful of Heavy/Special Weapons, 10 Scouts, a Dreadnought, a Rhino, a Drop Pod, 2 LRCs, a Command Squad and a unit of assault terminators as well as Grimaldus and the Emperor's Champion.

Was wondering what else my Black Templars could possibly need in tthe forseeable future to cover most of my bases other than their own codex, good rules and an improved assault rules.

>>52360405
>Now I know you are troll
Why? Because I don't like armies with 3-4 units and ruined balance?

>>52359936
>I also like putting the special rules for units on their battlescrolls or whatever they call unit cards.
There's a reason they moved away from it in 40k.You had essentially the same special rule in eight places, working differently and each causing different odd rule interactions with every other rule it brushed up against.