Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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I hope all of this gets binned when 8th comes out.

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>>52342408
What do we think of the list guys?

>>52342420
Why dont you play a more serious game for serious people like you?

>>52342420
Not my church speeder ! It may be crap in the rules, but i still love it.

>>52342420
Fucking ugly ass armless chicken walkers, baby carriers, retarded drill wielding terminator wannabe and santa of wolf claws.
What have become of this game.

>>52342444
Shitposting aside those models are horrible. Not even Orks want to loot them.

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>>52342408
OP, thank you so much. Was just about to make a proper thread myself if you hadn't already.

But you forgot Duncan, dammit.

>>52342471
Oh, i forgot top of giant chaos marine attached to the tracks that have a scrotum gun and whatever that mutant land speeder is.

>>52342420
You can throw the shitty new greater daemons in that pile as well

>>52342420
I'd keep Lord of Skulls, it's pretty decent, I like its flavor, would probably prefer a better off hand weapon though, skull thrower is pretty lame imo

>>52342479
But thats a classic.

>>52342420
I'd really like to play Logan's Santa sled, but it's just too overcosted
Logan by himself is already horrendously overcosted for what little he do he's literally a chapter master without orbital bombardment and with a powerfist and frost blade he can divide his attacks between each combat phase, with the sled he cost as much as a Wrightknight to become an easy target since you can't hide him in a unit

And the rules for the sled are actually pretty nice too

>>52342482
New keeper of secrets is disgusting.

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>>52342432
Or this one?

7 + 7 posts For the Death Guard!

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Can someone with better maths skills than myself, please tell me who would win a firelight between 5 thousand sons rubric marines vs. 10 Black Templar tactical marines. With standard equipment, of course.

>>52342432
>Dark souls: prepare to template edition

Throw some transport in there man, unless this is a defense play style like the aegis line. Then it's pretty solid except for some bigger guns, might need some lascannons or meltas for the tougher enemies.

>>52342502
5 000 have number advantage over 10, so they will win in 1 shooting phase.

>>52342502

The 10 Tactical Marines will kill them all in around 4.5 turns

The 5 Thousand Sons will kill them in about 5.7 turns

>>52342497
Are you trying to make a shooting range for opponents army?

How good is the start Collecting box for Nurgle?

From a game, point and money wise perspective.

I mostly want it for HoR/KT/Small games

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>>52342497
>so any conscripts

Good start but what about heavy weapons, or flyers? This would be a great tar pit but it would have (((some))) trouble against most super heavies. Or any thing with big templates.

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>>52342475
I avoid Duncan because while I preach his true creed, false prophet autists always hijack him and replace the link with lelsofanny meme videos, so his gospel has been moved elsewhere to preserve his dignity

>>52342497
As a Flamer heavy SoB player this makes my nipple harder than it should. My PE would love to face this

Kill all grognards

>>52342497
Pray to god you're not playing kill points.

>>52339989
'Eavy Armor on the Boyz? But that seems like a trap option, since I'd need 144 points to make use of it on all three mobs. Drop the Big Choppas? I dunno, S6 AP5 Nobz sound pretty good to me, anon. I was told Grot Riggers are a 50/50 option since Ork Vehicles won't survive very long against most things, but I dunno.

>>52342502
>Cover?
>Standard Equipment?
>Why Black Templar?
>Rapid Firing?

5 TS Rubrics lose vs 10 Tacticals
You're paying points for a durability that doesn't work vs. boltguns.

>>52342558
That made me laugh harder than it should.

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>2000 point game with 14 Eversor assassins in a 2X2 table

What would you bring to counter?

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>>52342408

>female marines this, female marines that
>based fabius bile bringing the womyn into the game
>plague marines release, not a single breast in sight

What was all the fuss about???

>>52342615
15 Eversor assassins

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WHO DEATHGUARD HERE?

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>>52342491
New KoS?

>>52342632
I want a squad now purely due to the happy faces.

Not happy Nurgle is a sin

>>52342625
butthurt fantasy grognard doom-preaching around

>>52342636
Now this is more like it.
This is gorgeous.

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>>52342615
>14 Culexus Assassins

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>>52342615

13 Vindicare Assassins
5 Arco flagellants

>>52342636
nice monopose

Which books are the Krieg stuff in? Siege of Vraks and IA13?

>>52342629
Over the point cap

>>52342675
Too many 4+ saves
You'd be overrun.

>>52342615
Bunch of flyers with vector dancer.

>>52342615
4 Shadowswords. 4+ reflex saves vs Volcano cannons would be interesting.

>>52342674
The amount of plot armour the Tau had against those assassins was disgusting

Vindicare missed TWICE!
Eversor got defeated in Melee
Callidus got detected by a non Psyker race because she smelled funny, then proceed to lose in Melee.
Culexus the anti-Psyker, just walked to his target. (Yes I know how he did it)

The Callidus was the most insulting one, those fucker infiltrate Eldar and Orks.

>>52342700
shield breaker?

>>52342674
Why are the Tau clutching their head

>>52342502
Thousand sons have a 1/3 chance to wound per shot
Templars have 1/9 chance to wound per shot but have double shooting and double wounds

Templars win

>>52342736
because terror aura

>>52342712

The Eversor slaughtered a Tau base, went through dozens of crisis suits and nearly killed one of the Eight™. He didn't just job out.

>>52342712

>Vindicare missed TWICE!

He also got blinded... despite wearing his anti blind face mask.

>>52342712

>The amount of plot armour the Tau

Don't get me started on Tau fluff, worst in the fucking game which is fucking saying something

>>52342747
I thought that the assassin only affects psychic races.

>>52342712

>The writer not forgetting about pheromones is plot armour

No, that's just not giving the callidus plot armour.

>those fucker infiltrate Eldar and Orks.

No they don't. The one time a Callidus tried to infiltrate Eldar in an ancient novel she got caught the moment she tried to speak, and even that was fucking retarded as she should've been caught the moment they saw she wasn't telepathic.

Also, Vindicares and Eversors aren't invincible. It took a lot to bring down, but they've been killed by less before.

>>52342754
Every race except the Necrons has a psychic presence/soul.

>>52342754
Cos whoever made a book is retard and dont understand Tau dont give a shit about psychic nulls, they dont even believe in psychic.

>>52342625
If GW values money they WILL release aesthetically pleasing female models.

>>52342748
To be fair Eversore are suppose to solo armies on top of killing the target. It is kind of the job description.

>>52342754
no, every sentient being has a warp presence
tau are smaller but not from non-existent

>>52342728
touché

>>52342762
Nope. Tau are a blank race its a blank walking in on blanks.

>>52342770
>aesthetically pleasing female models

Is this code for Female Space Marines?

>>52342759
That novel was so strange they sent the Callidus that didn't even spoke Eldar.

The entire point of those bastard is to blend in perfectly.

>>52342759
>magos biologis has made extensive studes on the tau
>lol we didnt know about the pheromones
tau appologist should do one

>>52342785
No it's code for being a massive faggot.

>>52342776
Tiny warp prescence doesn't mean they are psychically attuned race because they are not. Their entire point is they are a blank species.

>>52342784
>>52342804

you are simply wrong, tau arent blanks, and at no point have they even been

>>52342785
No, models that don't looks fat (Cele and friends) or stone-faced/old (Greyfax).

>>52342785
Yes and sisters.

>>52342791

It'd be fucking retarded if she could speak Eldar. It requires knowledge of ancient mythic cycles imperials wouldn't even know about.

>>52342784
False, Tau have souls. It's so just fucking small (communist jokes anyone?) that Chaos shit is not interesting in them.

Tau souls are like a single grain of rice vs a delicious steak of a humans soul or the double cheese burger of deep fry Oreos that is a Psyker or an Eldar.

>>52342797
>When he told anyone they were like "foul xenos we dont care about them, just believe in the Emperor and shoot them"

>>52342810
Thats bullshit they are. Why they don't get corrupted by chaos.

>>52342815
That is why it was stupid, the Inquisitor in the novel didn't even knew what Eldar was (might be be confusing novels now thou )

>>52342759
w-what happened to the callidus?

>>52342797

And? It's never even been hinted at in lore that Callidus can just develop or imitate pheromones cuz LOL POLYMORPHENE IS MAGIC.

>>52342828
becuase they have little warp presents, they dont intrest the gods

>>52342615
Literally anything in my codex because Eversor Assassins are total garbage.

2000 points of neophytes with autoguns in goliath trucks.

>>52342784
If they are a blank race then they should repel warp influenced people. Besides Culuxes assassins can still mind rape other blanks, happened in Nemesis, Spear (blank daemonhost, yeah I know). Mind rapes a culuxes assassin

It usually works on the principle of 'my black hole is bigger than your black hole'

>>52342845
Presence. Presents are gifts.

>>52342845
And thats why they are not possessed by daemons or affected by Culexus.

>>52342838
>what are gland warriors
>what are pheromone sprays
the mechnicus can do such things. its a dumb oversight with no decent justification, outside 'LOL GUIES THE IMERPIUM IS SO DUM'

>>52342831

No, you're thinking of the right books. It's the Inquisition War series. Meh'lindi knows absolutely jack shit about the basics of Eldar and gets caught the moment she has to interact with anyone. Bitch didn't even know what a Phoenix Lord was. Though she found out the hard way when Jain Zar blended her chest cavity

>>52342845
Yes but that is for possession warp mutation doesn't affect them.

>>52342408
Is the fucking AoS shill still here? Because it gets tiring that fucking anon trying to convince everyone that AoS is a great game of tactical deepness

>>52342860
>And thats why they are not possessed by daemons
yes
>affected by Culexus.
no, see>>52342855

>>52342838
>who is Meh'Lindi. (I think I spelt that right)


She infiltrated gene stealer cults using pheromones.

>>52342863
The Imperium not really getting what's actually going on with the Tau is so strange, they've dealt with far more esoteric races before.

>>52342871
Why would you provoke him like this and start the shitstorm? Just don't even bring it up dude.

>>52342644
>Not happy Nurgle is a sin

Plenty of Nurgle's mortal followers are a bit on the somber side and plaguebearers, made from mortals, are sad fucks as well. He is, after all, powered by despair, even though he himself, his greater daemons and his nurglings, are jolly the jolly bunch.

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>>52342834

Bad things.

>>52342871
AoS is more tactical deep than 40k and braindead Fantasy :^)

>>52342879
That's some shit writing then, Genestealer Cults use telepathy, not pheromones. You can't infiltrate them unless you're part of their Broodmind.

>>52342855
To be clear i don't think they are true nulls just as close to being nulls as you can get. That a Culexus should not cause them pain.
As blanks are supposed to only cause nausea in non-psykers.

>>52342838
Callidus are space magic. They are perfect copies of the target species.

The entire gimmick of them is to just walk next to the target.

Even Eldar can't detect them till they spoke. Because their language is so fucking complex.

Tau on the other hand don't have a complex language. She simply smelled wrong, which means plot armour. Callidus can mimic the biological aspects of a species, cultural gags can't be mimic that easily.

That is why talking funny or not knowing shit is a proper way to reveal a Callidus. Saying it smell funny is just stupid.

>>52342879
2 bad you ain't pheromone no eldar.

>>52342879

>In a non canon RT era novel she infiltrated a different race

So what? Is there anything about them recreating Tau pheromones?

>>52342871
AoS has lady marines AoS has left 40k behind.

>>52342893
>what are lictors

They use pheromones dude.

>>52342900

>Even Eldar can't detect them till they spoke.

It's a 'heretic tomes' novel. Explicitly non canon. And even then she was caught immediately.

>>52342900
Isn't the smell thing finally canon proof that tau are scent commies!

>>52342898
The Culexus are basically as blank as you can get, and their equipment is made to make their effect even stronger, that's the reason he was able to affect them so much
A human mind would have probably exploded

>>52342924

Who created that term, 'heretic tomes' to describe non-canon stuff? Never seen that used before.

>>52342828
Humans souls are McDonalds
Eldar souls are like a five course meal
...

And then you have Tau which are like a half full bowl of water flavored rice.

Why eat tau souls when the galaxy is literally bursting with human souls

>>52342900
Well, if humans were at war with robots and we sent someone who can perfectly pretend to be a robot then robots fund out cos they dont emit radiowaves that we, humans, can even percieve naturally.
She did not emitted something that humans even know about existing, it was just described as "smells funny" just as you cant describe how radiowaves taste/look/sound.

>>52342898
They cause nausea to other blanks to, sisters of silence in war of the Beast noted filling sick around other 'stonger'sisters.

>>52342928
As I see it Culexus should cause lethal damage to a psyker, discomfort ranging from severe to nothing in humans.
Tau though shouldn't feel anything.

>>52342920
Lictors aren't Genestealers you dumbass. They operate completely differently. They literally just leave down pheromone trails as breadcrumbs to lead combat swarms to the killing zones, you still wouldn't be able to trick a Lictor into thinking you were a Tyranid even with pheromones, and that's besides the point, because Genestealers don't do that shit whatsoever.

>>52342941
can't

>>52342920
>I don't read the lore

>>52342838
Callidus
>Fooled Genestealers and their Brood Telepathy
>Fooled Orks and their WAAAGH! Field
>Fooled Craftworld Eldar and their psychic links
Fooled Tau Pheromones? IMPOSSIBLE

>>52342893
Again Callidus can replicate anything Biological of the species due to space science magic.

Telepathy, hormones, Psyker, etc.

What it can't do is replicate cultural things. Like language, knowing ranks, body language, etc

Think of Callidus as the human suit from men in black (the tv show) perfect copies of a human, but once you sit down and talk to them something was off and strange.

There was an episode where J went undercover as an alien, his problem was not the disguise but the cultural cues.

Same thing with Callidus

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>>52342934

BL did I suppose. It's the label they use for reprints of old retconned stuff like Goto trash. The Inquisition Wars series is fucking awesome though, but it's got really dubious relevance to current canon. One of the main characters is a Squat.

>>52342946
You'd be wrong

>>52342974
That really feels like a waste of such amazing abilities, to just send them among the enemy troops

>>52342974
They aren't Psykers so no, they cannot replicate telepathy, and even if they could, the Patriarch would instantly go "who the fuck are you, I didn't infect you and none of my children that I am permanently in mindmeld with infected you or gave birth to you". You literally cannot infiltrate Genestealers unless you have X-TREME tier psychic skills and can rewrite the Patriarch's memories. You would basically need to be a thousand year old Extremis level Psyker Inquisitor or a Tzeentch Daemon or a high-ranking Harlequin Shadowseer or something.

>>52342969

>Fooled Genestealers and their Brood Telepathy
>Fooled Craftworld Eldar and their psychic links

Except they didn't fool Eldar and once again, it's non-fucking-canon. It's one of the fucking first 40k novel ever and has Banshees using lasguns and shit and completely ignores Stealers and Eldar being telepathic.

You can't whine about Tau wank and then try and bring up Imperial wank from non-canon bullshit as justification.

>>52342947
Catachan 18th regiment tricked tyranids with lictor pheromones and set traps/evaded combat with pheromones.

>>52342974

>Making up shit about Callidus mimicking psychic abilities

Don't talk shit all yer life. Funny to think this discussion started off as complaints about Tau powerlevels being absurd.

>>52342615
1 Manta

>>52342898
>Culexus should not cause them pain.
As blanks are supposed to only cause nausea in non-psykers.

Except Culexuses are trained and their "blankness" honed.

nausea in non-psykers is what an untrained blank does.

In a trained Culexus, using his Spoopyskull helm which FURTHER amplifies his blankness...

They'll cause more than nausea.

>>52343005
Callidus space science magic.

The entire point of the fucking assassins is that. The hard part is to make sure your target doesn't find out you are a fake.

In any case the Tau situation is the bullshit one. Infiltrating Eldar, Orks and GSC is a thing Callidus do, hard as fuck to do it but can be done.

Callidus infiltrate Tau and oh wow this bitch didn't shower today must be an asssassin that I can defeat in Melee!

>>52343031
>2x2 table

>>52343038
>implying the model sticking over the table edge is illegal

If the base fits, it fits.

>>52343037
Just shows how incompetent are Imperium's Best outside of the Imperiums shitty propaganda.

>>52343029
They are Assassin the most broken op plot thing since Primarchs.

Even if the mimic fail. How the fuck did she lost against Tau, in a small room.
Open field or a city to actually move around sure, but in that small confined space is just stupid.

>>52343024
Which is a completely different thing, are you even reading what I'm saying?

There's a difference between "Lictors leave pheromone trails as pathway guides for where Tyranids should go to kill things" which can be used to fool them into moving certain places, and "some cunt wore Tyranid pheromone perfume and Tyranids thought she was one of them", which could literally never happen because Tyranids don't use pheromones to communicate identity, if anything wearing Lictor pheromones makes them beeline to kill you because those pheromones literally only exist to say "go here to fuck shit up".

And all of that aside, again, Genestealers don't even use pheromones at all.

>>52343005
>Harlequin Shadowseer
Does the aeldari book make harlequins more viable?

I'd REALLY like to play them, but with the basic minidex you have really too little options and you basically have to nerf yourself because of the FoC

Is there maybe some eldar/deldar unit that would fit with the harlequins to make them a little more competitive? other then the obvious "ignore the harlequins and take scatbikes", but have it still be mostly clowns

>>52343060
Thats what i told her, but she was still scared.

>>52342946
>As I see it
Except it's not up to you. By DEFAULT that's what an unenhanced blank does; with the Animus Speculum they can crank that effect up to 11 and fire it as a beam powerful enough to kill even non-psykers, and generate a field that feels like you're being shot with a tazer powered by pure terror.

>>52342984
No im right.

>>52343037

>People call out your bullshit
>If I just keep repeating shit that's been debunked maybe they won't notice

Again, as others have pointed out, they cannot and never have copied psychic powers. The one time one tried to infiltrate Eldar she failed in minutes. It was a novel labelled as non-canon on it's very cover by the publisher so stuff about Stealers using pheromones rather than telepathy is to be ignored.

It doesn't seem to be that you're annoyed about Tau plot armour. It seems you're annoyed Assassins didn't get plot armour.

>>52343085
Fuck off its in the lore. Its not up to you either bitchboi

>>52342980
Is that TotalBiscuit?

>>52343071
DE IC with armour of misery and shadowseer with mask of secrets rape the shit out of people with psy-scream and mirror of minds and other stuff.
Stuff them in venom and laugh.

>>52343067

>They are Assassin the most broken op plot thing since Primarchs.
>100 assassins defeated by 300 marines

They're fucking garbage. They've died in waves since they've been sent after Abaddon and his Chosen.

>>52343037
>Callidus space science magic.
Which they don't have. They can't mimic telepathy. They cannot Infiltrate GSC, they cannot infiltrate Eldar, and apparently they cannot infiltrate Tau.

Assassins aren't usually used for major war-type operations vs enemy forces anyways, they're used as FUCKING ASSASSINS doing espionage shit, killing corrupt governors and heretic navy admirals and high priests of churches that are causing a religious schism which is wasting Imperial resources needed to fight xenos and shit. They aren't meant for infiltrating highly psychic alien races with completely different culture.

>>52343099

It's Inquisitor Sean Connery you heretic.

>>52343092
Vindicare missing shots, getting blinded.
Eversor getting cut up in Melee
Callidus getting detected and losing in Melee
Culexus best anti-Tau Assassin.

>>52343071
Ow yea, and raiders are assault transports work for harleys to charge from.

>>52343102
Are they considered the same army in everything if taken with that book's rules?
Does it bypass the "can't start in BB transport" rule?

Thanks

What about long range weapons? Is there one that could fit with the harlequins?

>>52343125
>Eversor getting cut up in Melee
>Callidus getting detected and losing in Melee
>to Tau

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>>52342420

What is wrong with the tau robot ?

>>52343125

The only thing that didn't make sense their was the blinding. Eversors have been brought down by generic marines, nevermind The Eight. Cally ignoring pheromones would've been stupid as fuck and Vindicares have missed shots before.

>>52343142
It's considered a GC and not an Open Topped Super Heavy Walker.

>>52343125
It's almost like sending Assassins that are meant for killing single targets or disorganized mobs to put down revolutions from other human Factions, or to hunt rogue witches or spy on dumbass non-psychic government figures, aren't that great at being in a full-scale alien warzone.

>>52343095
>getting this assmad
>muh shittily-written fluff piece
It's a Str5 Ap1 weapon on the tabletop, no magic immunities for low psychic presence, it fucks everyone up. Those Tau are clutching their heads because he's puréeing their brains inside their skulls. Get over yourself faggot.

>>52343147
People seem to forget that even the best trainned Fire Warrior is shit compared to a veteran guardamen. They are biologically inferior.

Sure killing the fucking assassins at range with techno bla bla bla is ok. Failing this hard at what the assassins are good at is just silly.

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April release of Shadows war confirmed

but not adeptus titanicus in summary

>>52343130
Cant start, but can jump turn 1 and then flat out.
For ranged i dont know, you have assortment of all DE poison/blasters/lances and craftworld fireprism and stuff so choose what you like.
Apparently you can give Solitaire the artefact pistol by stretching the RAW and making him replace his haywire grenades (they are ranged weapon) to have Assault 9 pistol or something (with his ridiculous ballistic skill).

>>52343175
Were they in their bullshit stronk techno-battle suits?

>>52343175

>even the best trainned Fire Warrior is shit compared to a veteran guardamen.

In CC. Yes, due to worse depth perception. At range? Fuck no. Better binocular vision, equipment, armour and advanced targetting tech.

>>52343175
Haha, that is what your imperium is preaching. "Inferior xenos races".
At least some of you are intelligent enough to join Greater Good instead of empire that treats you like shit.

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>>52343178

>IG vs Orks in a batrep

Neat. Hope it's Steel Legion though its probably Dan's IG

So now that Mortarion is confirmed the next traitor Primarch, who will be the next loyalist?

>>52343197
Tau are objectively inferior in terms of reflexes, depth perception, and physique. Humans are to Tau what Eldar are to Humans in terms of seeming unnaturally quick and so on. Tau just make up for it with better technology and strategy.

>>52343187
With the Eversor and Vindicare yes.
With the Callidus not really. It was in a small room.

The Vindicare got blinded (while wearing the no blind bullshit mask)
The Eversor was inside a training dome.

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>>52343196
>Better binocular vision, equipment, armour and advanced targetting tech.
>still BS3 compared to the vet's BS4

>>52343167
Tau are still affected by psychic if you just use psychic to conjure a fucking fireball, lighting or bloodthirster.
They are not susceptible to the field, not the ocullum thingy that just converts psychic power into a bullet.

>>52343212
My bet is on Lion.

It's either him, Russ, or Sangy, and I'm still not sure they're actually going to bring Sanguinius back.

>>52342937
Malal would probably dig in with glee.

>>52343213
And the stupidly bubble their system have.

Tau mostly survive due to that. When anyone attacks them they turn brain dead.

>>52343226
>Sangy
Wasn't he OMNOMNOMed by npc?

>>52343223

>Using rules as a basis for fluff

Uhhh... sure. If you really believe that surviving a few campaigns is good justification for a veteran guardsman to be as skilled as a space marine then all the power to you smug anime poster.

>>52343214
So it sounds like the Eversor death was legit.

Callidus, despite it not being bullshit she was detected, probably should have been able to carve up her target at minimum before dying.

Vindicare getting blinded just sounds like retarded writing.

>>52343239
What?

He was killed by Horus 10,000 years ago.

>>52343239
Killed by Horus.

>>52343226
>My bet is on Lion
It think games workshop is going to wait a bit to release him. They will keep people in suspense about Cypher and The Fallen for a bit longer.

>>52343175
This. You have the most elite individual on the imperium, they killed all manner of thing for thousands of years and they fail to shitty tau

Tau writing biased as always.

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How good is the Mephrit Dynasty stuff?

Obviously seems worse than a bog-standard Decurion, but Guardians of Perdita and the Resurgence Decurion all look very fun and their relics and Warlord Traits aren't half-bad either from what I can tell.

>>52343226
Bobbys sobbing is bad enough, lion and angel will just sit around all day and lament about having to live and everything while bashing their spookys brothers skull in with all the spare weapons E-Money had lying around.

>>52343213

>Humans are to Tau what Eldar are to Humans in terms of seeming unnaturally quick and so on

Nowhere near that pronounced. Even Marines can't keep up with Eldar.

Fire caste are bred to have superior long range vision at the cost of depth perception seeing as assault doesn't factor into their military doctrine. As for physique? Pretty much the same as humans. Fire caste are genetically engineered to be pretty stalky and strong. Reflexes? Probably, though all I'm going off there is stats. Don't know if fluff even mentions what their reactions are like.

>>52343247
My only real issue is with the Callidus and Vindicare. Because they sound so stupid.

Callidus at least could have score a hit against the bitch. Wounding her a little.

While the Vindicare missing so much was just dumb. Missing onces and getting detected is fine, missing again and again, while getting blinded is silly

>>52343253
>He was killed by Horus 10,000 years ago.
>>52343257
>Killed by Horus.
I mean his corpse

I just read the Tau lore from GW's source book. It says that the Tau are virtually blanks. You lied to me /tg/.

>>52343212
With all the focus on Armageddon. Definitely Vulkan, which paves the way for the Unending WAAAGH! where Ghazzy tellyports his forces back to Armageddon. Awakening the ancient Ork machines and ascends to being Gorkamorka.

>>52343275
Well they are slower than human zombies star wise...

>>52343281
They have the Sanguinor to bring him back with a plot twist whenever they need

>>52343275
>Nowhere near that pronounced. Even Marines can't keep up with Eldar.

What? Th ultramarine primarch moved too fast for even the Ynnari, who are super Eldar, to keep up.

>>52343157

You mean Monstrous creature?
This shit is becoming mroe and more prevelant.
Castellax robots are MC's domitar automata is MC, but for some reason dreadnaughts are still vehicles with armor values.

MC's are so OP that it makes taking normal vehicles redundant.

I am paying 185 points for a bloody LR tank that wont even properly shoots its weapons other than battle cannon and can get wrecked by a single lucky hit. But MC's that just wont die even thoguh you put lots of shots are much cheaper.

Either make every vehicle based unit having armor or just scrap the whole idea and make all of them MC

>>52343257
I don't know how much longer they really can, they set up the Dark Angels being relevant again in Curse of the Wulfen/Wrath of Magnus, then brought Cypher back to the fore in Gathering Storm, and now we need to see the conclusion.

They're probably not going to bring back Russ for awhile because Space Wolves just got their update in Warzone Fenris and if they were going to bring him back it shouldn't been to fight Magnus... but I guess I can see it being possible.

On the other hand serious shit is right about to go down on Baal so maybe this is the right time for Sanguinius to make some manner of comeback? But again that didn't happen with Russ on Fenris so it might be a red herring.

It's sure as fuck not going to be one of the other vanilla Codex loyalist Primarchs.

>>52343300
primarch u tard

regular space marines are slow as fuck compared to eldar

>>52343275
>Nowhere near that pronounced. Even Marines can't keep up with Eldar.
Okay not to that same extent but there's a definite disparity there.

I guess I should have said Humans are to Tau what Space Marines are to Humans.

>>52343300

>Primarch
>Ordinary marine

Don't be a fuckwit. They even had a POV from Calgar remarking how much faster the Ynnari were than him.

>>52342408
>What the fuck happened to the Black Library Link
I thoroughly concur, what in fact the fuck?
Someone please provide.

>>52343282
>GW
>Canon

>>52343301
Don't worry in two months unit types are all going away forever.

>>52343247
I'd be pretty skeptical on the Eversor death as well desu, it's close range, tau aren't known for their melee prowess, the Eversor should have been able to cleave through them at bare minimum.

Beast Kruel came closer to killing the Beast then any other captain level space marine.

The Garantine killed 6 Sons of Horus before dying and took a buttload of damage before hand

Torque managed to carve his way past loads of Chaos Space Marines to kill Drask

The Eversor in
Seventh Retribution went toe to toe with the greatest assassin of all time before horribly damaging her.

They're pretty beast man

>>52343275
Fluffwise veteran humans are flat out better than veteran Tau.

It was recently the Tau got the bullshit better than century old and/or Battle harden Veterans with more battle under their belt than Tau have lived.

Older fluff (3rd to 5th if I recall) Tau had problems with Imperial veteran pilots and general Imperial navy. Now? Tau pilots are just out right better. And some how Imperium had a stock of brain dead Navy officers and fleets to send and fight the Tau.

The only explantion for the war against the Tau is that the Imperium went of their way to send the most retarded soldiers to war. While ordering named characters to act stupid. (That Pask story with the Baneblade oh god why?!)

>>52343291

Are zombies really I3? Why do 40k rules never make any fucking sense?

>>52343338
They're fast zombies anon, like 28 days later

>>52343334
>Fluffwise veteran humans are flat out better than veteran Tau.

According to what?

>It was recently the Tau got the bullshit better than century old and/or Battle harden Veterans with more battle under their belt than Tau have lived.

You realize being a "veteran" IG means surviving one campaign right? Only really, really special dudes get the augments that allow them to live for centuries. Your average vet has just lived long enough to know everything the Uplifting Primer told him was complete bullshit.

Also, Tau get battle data pumped into their brains subconsciously while they're in cryo to mitigate their short lifespan.

>>52343338
d6 system.
Maybe with a d10 would be better.

The main example of it is S3 Guardamens, Sisters, Eldar and Orks.

Guardsmen would be at the bottom of it. While power armour Sisters and Eldar should be around the same, while the Ork is just "one unit of strength" short from being S4 marine.

I would love a d100 but I honestly doubt it would work for a wargame.

>>52343278
Don't forget the time a Vindicare literally waited 6 years to take shot and kill a dark eldar pilot speeding by. Missing shots seems pretty damn unlikely.

>>52343175
>muh 100% success rate for assassin's
Hang yourself

>>52343366

Also, Tau get battle data pumped into their brains subconsciously while they're in cryo to mitigate their short lifespan.

Can I get a source on that,

Not being smark, just curious.

>>52343382
You could count the number of failed assassin targets on one hand. 1 is a primarch, another is Abandon.

>>52342444
It's not really about seriousness, the models just look bad.

Though I have no problem with Lord of Skulls, Land Speeder, or the wolf chariot.

>>52343367
Only Boyz are S3. Boyz are of the youngest of Ork Kind.

>>52343332
>the greatest assassin of all time is a chick
>but we can't have female space marines

>>52343449

>the greatest assassin of all time is a chick
>that isn't enough for me, I demand more

>>52343449
>Assassins are exactly the same as the finest shock troops humanity has to offer.

>>52343332
It always struck me as a bit weird that an Eversor would fail in close combat against non melee orientated targets.

Hey guys, first time painter here. I'm using Citadel paints and I want to know how much I should THIN MY PAINTS

Thank you!

>>52343413
And that is somehow less retarded than them failing once in a while. Cause if the ebin assassin's always win, why aren't the leaders of every non imperial faction dead yet? What's the imperium waiting for? Send in your 1337 assassins

>>52343466
You want a milk like consistency, or thereabouts, and 2-3 thin coats. Watch Duncan's videos.

What army?

>>52343456
Calling her a chick doesn't really work, she could manipulate and absorb organic matter on a molecule level, she was pretty much Alex Mercer from Prototype, I think her gender was more of an association of character rather than physical or genetic meaning.

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>>52343466
Watch the St Duncan videos on the WarhammerTV YouTube channel.

>>52343475
Why do you think the Imperium is still alive?
Assassins are killing key targets all the time.

Bigger names Xenos and Traitor now have plot armour to protect them from assassins

>>52343466
DRINK

>>52343391

The stuff about cryo for long haul journeys is in the codex. The stuff about battle sims is in the Shadowsun novel.

>>52343498
Yeaaaaaa because it just makes total sense for every imperial assassin ever made to be 100% successful. For the amount if bitching you've done about bad writing, your story sounds like the worst one yet. Why do other factions even have important characters? Why aren't they all dead yet? Just send in the imperial assassin's and be done with it.

>>52343127
No. Look in the FAQ.

>>52342736
NORMIE DOESN'T EVEN WATCH ANIME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52343475
They do it all the time, Drask was gonna make another warpstorm and destroy a couple sectors, he was stopped

The Beast was stopped with the crucial help of the Officio Assasinorum, couldn't send a simple assassin, hard to kill a target that can't simply be stabbed in the back or poisoned, and I doubt 20 Eversors could have kill the Ork who could beat the shit out of Vulkan.

>>52343558
Didn't you read? Once you have a name you are immune to assassination.

Unless GW want you dead, sorry Space pope.

>>52343533
Thanks man

>>52342674
>MY WAIFU IS NOT SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

Have there been any leaks about the new Sisters of Silence and/or Custodes mini-codex rules yet?

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>>52343449
>female space marines
Oh god why

>>52343669
we've seen all of them, use google

>>52342432
Not bad, but Missile Launchers should be for Infantry squads. Heavy Weapons Teams benefit most from Lascannons and maybe Autocannons. You need more Astropaths at ML1 for Prescience, and you need more Priests or something to make sure the Infantry blobs don't run. Jacobus would be good for this list because he has a 12 inch bubble of Fearless and Counter-Attack.

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>>52343679

>>52343449
What the fuck do those have to do with each other?

>>52343694
As much as the memes like to equate them to each other, storm cast aren't actually space marines.

I'd rather have 'enchanced', roided out sisters than actual space marines.

/tg/ What do you use to highlight caliban green ?

>>52343718
WIP thread might help you out better

Half the posters here are WAACfags who don't even paint their shit

>>52343718
Warpstone Green, with Moot Green on the very tips personally

>>52343703
Because I've never once heard a single person complain that the greatest assassin of all time was female. No accusations of sjw infiltration, no outrage at girls being forced into traditonal male roles, no one questioning why a girl is better than men at killing people. But mention female space marines and the autism flows endlessly

>>52343715
>inhuman supersoldiers made by golden king with no sex drive
Methods of making might be different but result is same.

>>52343278
>Callidus at least could have score a hit against the bitch. Wounding her a little.

I'm pretty sure the fight leads off with her narrowly missing shadowsun's heart when she stabs her, rather than stabbing her directly in the heart.

That is ALL that sensing something off did for Shadowsun. She turned a lethal strike into a non-lethal one by pulling back in time.

They also met at some command post where she was in her stealth armor, and the Callidus only died because on of the Fire Warriors nearby managed to distract her long enough for Shadowsun to get a clean shot.

>>52343494
>I think her gender was more of an association of character rather than physical or genetic meaning.
reminder that this is what SJWs actually think gender is

>>52343744
Good thing the method of making is exactly the reason why there can be female Eternals but no female Marines.

>>52343703
Traditional male roles
Isn't the trope of female assassin like way more prevalent in fiction than reality? What are you complaining about?

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>>52343196

Slapping random stuff on your dick wont make it longer.

>>52343741
Wow. Maybe... maybe because... the rejection of female space marines is based entirely on a solid argument instead of your bullshit sexism strawman, and 40k fans have no problem with women in effective combat roles they just don't want 30 years of established lore to be shit on for what is obviously a cashgrab gimmick appealling to the worst kinds of people?

>>52343741

it's almost like there's a fluff reason for the latter but not for the former.

>>52343755

Gender being a broad term that includes social constructs isn't an sjw thing, it's just what gender's been defined as for decades. 'Sex' is what refers to whether or not you have boy or girl parts.

>>52343787
Who are you talking to? The one I responded to was the one complaining

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>>52343787
This is the suppose Assassin of the North Korean dude.

Apparently female assasssins are not that rare in real life. If they train to be like the Ines in tropes of sexy women killing people is another thing altogether

>>52343796

>Binocular vision
>Not an innate biological characteristic

That probably seemed like a good analogy in your head.

>>52343823
Sorry I meant >>52343787 for >>52343741

>>52343741
>itt: SJW faggot can't wrap their head around the idea that the dislike of female space marines isn't actually based on sexism or "traditional male roles"

>>52343741
>But mention female space marines and the autism flows endlessly

It'd be the same as if you suggested Xenos marines, or something else. Autism crops up because it's one of the few things in the setting that's pretty clearly stated.

Even then, there are ways to have female space marines, but people never try to justify themselves with those. They just scream and yell that female ultramarines should just be retconned into existence.

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>>52343244
Consider it like this

Veteran guardsman is 4.01 in bs space marine is 4.49 in bs, which is rounded down.

Also keep in mind one is firing a recoiless gun which shoots lasers( speed of light) and other is firing a giant gun with a giant recoil( only managable due to astartes physique) and has a muzzle velocity much lower than speed of light.

Hey my dudes, newfriend here. I got a kill team game today against some emperor's children. I'm playing Tau and the dude is going to use all raptors on his list? What do? I was thinking 2 crisis and rest Pathfinders with a few railrifles.

>>52343800
>>52343801
Except there isn't a fluff reason other than emps saying it wouldn't work.

>>52342479
Remember to ignore Slav posters

>>52342420

All those models are awesome.

>>52343861
What kind of nonsense is that? Marines also have the compensation of their servos, aim assist systems that link them to their weapons and an entire life of drilling and combat with little time spent not doing either of those.

>>52343863
Well, you're probably going to get charged, so keep that in mind. other than that, I'd say you'll be fine. Markerlights with railrifles will ruin his day with high BS ignoring cover, and the crisis suits are good for mobility and intercepting.

Don't be afraid to charge with your crisis suits. Strength 5 with 2 attacks base could potentially take out a raptor or two in an emergency.

>>52343854
And just as I predicted, the autism flows. Until someone actually tries and fails to make girl marines, we don't actually know if it's possible or not.

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>>52343847

Not having a spine is a biological inferiority for one.

>>52343837
I can see that going along with the trope but I'm also thinking more about hitmen, hired gunman for crime and gang thugs (cartel assassins) let's not get into that argument, my point was that the trope of female assassin was pretty inline, I was wondering why you were comparing this to a female space marine (something that's male orientated, in the trope that is)

>>52343741
Anon love, female marines exist in the fluff. They are not loyalist thou.

Having loyalist female marines is like asking to have xeno loyalist marines.

Allowing loyalist female marines would be a fluff rape of 3 decades of establish lore.

>>52343863
Sounds good to me. I would also suggest a few gun drones, with twin-linked 2 shots they have decent Overwatch

>>52343906
>Allowing loyalist female marines would be a fluff rape of 3 decades of establish lore.
But that doesn't matter. The purpose of fiction is to help achieve social justice.

Why are the Emperor's Children called that way anyway?

They should be called the Emperor's Grandchildren, if anything.

Seriously, GW, fix your shit.

>>52343906
My argument is simply this, if it is physically possible to create female marines, then there is no actual reason for not having them.

>muh loyalty
The sisters of battle aren't loyal???? You couldn't give them enhancements??????

>>52343902
>someone calling me out for strawmanning is autism
Wew here we go.

>Until someone actually tries and fails to make girl marines, we don't actually know if it's possible or not.
We do, because it's a fictional fucking setting and the writers tell us what is possible and what isn't. It's been established since the very beginning that it either wouldn't work, isn't worth the effort to make it work, is straight up undesirable even if it DID work, and that even if you ignored all three of those, Astartes aren't human and a female one wouldn't look anything like a female human. She wouldn't have feminine features, or breasts, or any of that, she'd essentially be an FtM meathead without working ovaries, indistinguishable as having once been a chick instead of a dude, so what is even the fucking point? You wouldn't see a difference in the models.

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>>52343896
They still have to compensate for the range and movement due to the nature of their projectile. Watch some youtube videos on pro-shooters. You will notice that even though they spend most of their time on taht they still wont hit standing targets in the bullseye all of the time.

Lasgun on the other hand is point and shoot to hit weapon. Most people disregard that huge advantage of lasgun( or hotshot lasgun) and ask why guard is not using autoguns etc.

>>52343935
The purpose of girl marines is to defeat retards like you who can't offer any concrete reasons for not having them. It doesnt bother me at all that they don't exist, what bothers me is people saying something isn't possible when it is

>>52343935
>The purpose of fiction is to help achieve social justice.

Even if that were true, 40k has been a parody setting from the very beginning. The Imperium is not supposed to be a bright, idealistic view of the future.

>>52343902
Male sisters of battle when? Until the eclesiarch is punished for having men with arms we don't know if it's possible or not.

>>52343946
Not to mention that Vet seargeants can and do use bolters.

>>52343942
Female marines fluffwise require Chaos bullshit.

That is why loyalist can have it. Unless you go out of your way to destroy the lore to allow it.

>>52343861
>Veteran guardsman is 4.01 in bs space marine is 4.49 in bs

No nigga. Just no. A veteran guard is a regular shmuck who managed to not eat bullets for breakfast in a few battles. A marine has a chemically augmented and bio-engineered eyeballs for the sole purpose of being good at aiming, on top of training since childhood and a lifespan measured in centuries.

BS4 on regular humans is a result of the same laziness that has Phoenix Lords, 10k year old psychic gestalts with the combined experience of thousands of souls, with the same skill as generic Archons and left Ahriman, master of divination, without access to divination for a bunch of editions. It's a system where terminators go down to lasguns, demigods hit grots on a 3+ and Necrons can move as fast as Eldar if they both roll a 6. Anyone using rules as a basis for extrapolating fluff is a spastic.

>>52343960
>We must add X because we know it will be unpopular!
??????

>>52343946
>Takes three Plasma Guns per squad.
>Shoots just as easy
This is why all your talk about pro shooters and such is wasted.

>>52343902
>I don't understand anything about the state of technological development in 40k: the post: the movie: the animated series: the documentary: the epistolary novel

>>52343945
My point is that you're wrong, we don't know if it will work because the writers themselves left that open. All they had to do was say "we tried, it failed, science reasons, girls can't survive the process". That's it, that's all they needed to write, but they didn't and they left it open to possibility, so get fucked retard.

>>52343945
Not to mention she'd probably be bald with a mad six pack and some beefy deep ass voice.

>>52343942
>if it is physically possible to create female marines, then there is no actual reason for not having them.

Fabius Bile is the only one who maybe has it figured out, and he's still in the prototype stages. Not only that, but he is a Chaos Space Marine and a rather notable heretek.

The Imperium isn't just going to walk up and ask nicely for him to make some lady marines for them, because not only do they not really need them, but that's 10 levels of heresy.

Unless you have something really convoluted like the Inquisition stealing samples and deciding to make another secret chapter (like they Grey Knights, because these gals would be made with heretical tech), then there's no good way to do it.

But of course, you guys never think of solutions like that or know the lore well enough to think of answers like that. You just spew 'muh female loyalists' without actually trying.

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>>52344000

>>52343960
Ok fine, ignoring all the stuff that says the barely understood genetic brutalization marines undergo has a massive failure rate with male base stock, the whole point of marines is to act as a servant of humanity.

If there were male and female marines, then they could breed, which would create a race of superhumans, rather than marines being the awesome and revered yet ultimately disposable guardians of humanity that they really are.

>>52343960
You're doing it wrong. You're trying to argue from the perspective of lore integrity, which is not what is in question.

If a work of fiction does not support a social justice message that work of fiction is wrong and oppressive and must be changed to help achieve social justice. Any in-universe considerations are irrelevant since fiction that isn't supporting social justice is fiction that is wrong.

>>52344000
>we don't know if it will work because the writers themselves left that open
No they didn't. Read the fucking lore.

Why are you so assdamaged about this?

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Why the hell people are so mad about fem space marines? Arent catholic space nazi nuns aka Sisters of Battle enough ?

>>52344033
/tg/ is too stupid for satire, dude, you're going to get actual REEEEs, pls don't

>>52344000
White dwarf 98, you can't make female space marines there you have it, now fuck off.

>>52343896
>>52343896
Except that scouts can shoot as precise as an astartes but without the armour assistance.

>>52344043
>Why the hell people are so mad about fem space marines?

Because people who don't actually know about the setting see a boy's only club and have the urge to REEE about it until it's changed and then still never play.

>>52344033
Am I on 4chan?

Why GW writers are so shitty? Even when i start enjoying reading book they made some retarded plot twist and plot armour everything.

>>52344018
You're under the impression that I want them to exist or care that they don't, but thank you for actually giving a proper response. My entire argument is wether or not it is possible, and we have been given no conclusive evidence that it isn't possible. Practicality is another issue that I agree with you on

>>52344048
I'm trying to help them understand why their arguments won't actually work on SJWs, they literally do not care about the narrative value of a work of fiction, or quality of any entertainment product of any kind. The only relevant factor is whether or not it contains as social justice message, if it does not then that thing is wrong and oppressive, if it does it is brave and virtuous. Quality, profitability, fan enjoyment are all non-factors.

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BUH GUYS WHAT IF THERE WAS ACTUALLY ORK AND ELDAR HYBRIDS, IT HASNT BEEN BROVEN FLASE YET EH!

>>52344086
Have you read Dead Men Walking?

>>52343941
>Why does Tzeentch have Thousand Sons when Slaanesh is the God of Sex.

Get your shit together GW

>>52344129
Because Slaanesh has Billion Sons.

Or he pedo snuff fucks his own kids to death in a drug-induced violent orgy

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>>52343981
>Hurr durr no veterans AR ewhat I say disregard every other opinion besides mine
>,hurr durr guard are barely trained inbreed that can't shoot for shit unlike fire warriors
You don't know anything about fluff do you?

>>52344144
>olde stormstoppers
10/10

>>52344144

tasty/10

>>52343946
I may be missing something but since when were lasguns recoilless

>>52344144
unpainted/10

>>52344116
Orks are asexual

>>52344116
And if something has yet to be proven impossible, do we make grandiose statements saying it's impossible? Use your big boy brain for this

>>52344165
And yet they have dangly bitz.

Threw together a necron 1k point list last night, looking for opinions.

Reclamation 679 pts

Catacomb barge 135 (190)
voidreaper 30
phlactery 15
mindshackle scarabs 10

Necron Warriors 130 (169) x2
3 extra warriors 39

immortals 85

Tomb blades 54 (66)
shield vanes x3 6
nebuloscope x3 6
Canoptek Harvest 320 pts

Spyders 50 (110)
Extra spyder 50
gloom crystal 10

wraiths 120 (150)
transdimensional beamer x3 30

Scarab Swarm 60

>>52344101
>we have been given no conclusive evidence

So you're asking for spoonfeeding then. The fact that only one dude in the setting has apparently just now figured it out isn't enough. You have to have actual confirmation that over the course of 10,000 years, nobody tried to shove Gene-seed into a woman to see if it worked. Otherwise, it's totally possible, and the absence of any female marines and the numerous examples of people in canon saying and acting like it isn't possible is just coincidence.

>>52344172
So you're saying you believe in Ork/Eldar hybrids until proven otherwise?

Whatever floats your boat my dude.

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>>52344152

>Trying to argue IG vets are in the same ballpark as fucking marines and tries to equate crunch with fluff
>Accuses others of not knowing lore

>>52344173
do you have proof?

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>>52344144

>>52344025

This is the part people always forget. Not only is it impossible without Fabius-level fuckery to have the Emperor's geneseed put into a woman, but it was done this way intentionally. Emps didn't want the SM to surpass humanity, and so they are sterile. Instead of replacing humans, they are Thunder Warriors Mk II (aka supposed to be killed off after humanity successfully achieves its psychic apotheosis).

>>52344033

The part I always found lulzy is that the Imperium is supposed to be an oppressive dystopian hellhole, and yet some people still say "but what about social justice?" I mean it's like begging for the interrogators in 1984 to all be women, or something. Absolutely retarded.

>Yeah you can kill off all the mutants and aliens and shit lol
>but you better let women in on the part of the killing that involves transitioning to superhuman murder god status!

>>52344173
They factually do not

>>52344205
I can forward you a picture or two but... this is a blue board, you know?

>>52344126
No. I was referring to GW campaigning books like Warzone Damocles, Fall of Cadia etc.
Black Library have better and worse book.
Is Dead Men Walking good?

>>52344160
>what's a laser
Guy. Come on.

>>52344172
>X might exist until proven impossible

Have fun believing in 99.9999999% of everything ever even if two claims are contractions

>>52344196
Yes, normal people will not refute something until evidence has been provided. That's kind of how our laws work and shit. Is it likely that ork hybrids exist? No not very. Is it impossible? No

>>52344215

>Emps didn't want the SM to surpass humanity, and so they are sterile

Doesn't that kinda counteract your point that their can't be women marines? If you're just gonna make em sterile anyway it doesn't matter what's between their legs.

>>52342615
200 skitarii vanguard

>>52344242
Have fun living in the 1800's where guilt was proven by how loud people shouted.

>>52344253
Made the population sterile by having only one gender*

>>52344215
>The part I always found lulzy is that the Imperium is supposed to be an oppressive dystopian hellhole, and yet some people still say "but what about social justice?" I mean it's like begging for the interrogators in 1984 to all be women, or something. Absolutely retarded.
Fucking this so much.

You can tell the people complaining about not having female space marines are retarded newfag SJWs just trying to cause a stink because they actually buy the "SPACE MARINES ARE NOBLE AND JUST DEFENDERS OF HUMANITY" propaganda and don't know enough about the setting to realize that the Imperium makes the worst atrocities of nazi germany look like utopian noblebright enlightenment.

>>52344160

Do you understand what causes recoil? If not, google it. If yes, consider what "LAS" in lasgun means.

>>52344253

I meant "effectively sterile"

>>52344200
>using a book that was designed as a joke to have a laugh about 40k as a proof of to how they train guards even when there are prime examples this is wrong and had several versions because it was a hilarious book
This is the prime example of people taking 40 too seriously

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WHAT IS THE BRIGHT COLOR ON THIS GROT DAMMIT

Okay /tg/ ive been gone for a month what is the new word on the street? Girlyman broken or no?

>>52344246
>Yes, normal people will not refute something until evidence has been provided. That's kind of how our laws work and shit. Is it likely that gold-shitting flying unicorns which speak english in Morgan Freeman's voice exist? No not very. Is it impossible? No

>>52344214
quit posting this semendemon

>>52344144

Bretty good,
Where did you get the inq at the middle from ?

>>52344246
In a very skewed way of thinking, perhaps.

But that doesn't satisfy the people clamoring for it. It's never some secret chaos experiment or a warp mishap in some far corner of the galaxy to justify a single chapter of female marines.

No, it's always 'I'm making female Crimson Fists and nobody can stop me!'

They don't care if the lore has confirmed or denied it or about following up on that .01% chance.

If I wanted to make Ork/Eldar hybrids, I could justify that with Crazy Homunculus experiments by the Dark Eldar, and make them weird green mutant abominations bred for combat.

That does not mean sticking an Ork head on an Aspect warrior and saying 'Everything is canon XD'

>>52344200
>haven't read about Gaunt's ghosts casually killing Marines with las guns and bayonets

>>52344298
He's not been talked about much, I dont think people have had a chance to play him.

But the new eldar are HORRENDOUSLY overpowered.

>>52344276
You can tell people who refute something without any concrete evidence are so full of themselves they can't fathom not knowing something.

Does god exist? No one knows. But the fat neckbeards fedora in the corner there will go on and on about how he has undeniable confirmation that God does not exist. Because the fedora is self absorbed dickhead

>>52344264
Wut? What does that have to do- you know what never mind

I'm saying that you shouldn't base everything as possible because it hasn't been proven impossible, otherwise you will start getting contractions and meaningless concepts must then be giving meaning, for example:

If you can't prove that there is a tea pot between Earth and Mars how do you know it's not there?

Or a giant floating half unicorn under your bed

Or an invisible man who steals your socks.
Or an invisible man who stops people stealing your socks

The list goes on.

>>52344308
I'm happy we finally see eye to eye.

>>52344240
>>52344281
>whats a laser
Something different from their real world counterparts. Lasers in 40k have very little semblance to real world lasers other than that they are beams that cause heat and damage.
They're shown having recoil in most WH40K media, so I assume they do in fluff, too.

>>52344322
Scriptarius.

>>52344314
noher expression perfectly conveys my feelings on many subjects

>>52344323
What's more pathetic, an sjw that needs female marines to satisfy their insecure neurosy, or a fully grown man getting triggered about girl marines in a game of toy soldiers.

>>52344246

No, that is not how our ''laws and shit '' work at all.
In general the burden of proof lies with the claimant

>>52344333
Hm we know why he is working with the Fallen or not? also i cant seem to find the epub/pdf has one been uploaded yet?

>>52344335
No, this is better compared to anti-vaccination. Every study except 1 said vaccines are totally safe, and that 1 was heavily debunked. Every space marine chapter is entirely male, except for one random blurb back from second edition that was ret-conned.

How about you give an example of how female space marines aren't impossible using normal methods, taking into account the fact that every space marine we've ever scene is male, and it's likely that some people have tried to use Gene-seed on girls.

>>52344358
In most situations in Fluff, they do not. Hellsreach gives large portions of the general population Lasguns to fight off the orks with the reasoning of anyone able to hold the weapon will be able to fire and mostly hit with it because there's no recoil and it's effectively "just pull the trigger and try to point at things".

>>52344043
>Imperium
>catholic space nazi
pick one
>>52344062
>who don't actually know about the setting
>implying RT fluff relevant in 40k

>>52344358
I believe not only 40k have recoil las guns, star wars and fallout also have recoiling las weapons

>>52344382
Considering the second one has justification and the first one doesn't? It's self-explanatory.

>>52344338
And if you stop thinkng that everything is possible until proven impossible, you crush human innovation. At one point we thought flight was ridiculous, open heart surgery? Laughable, and now we have particle accelerators because people thought outside the box

>>52344358
>They're shown having recoil in most WH40K media
...such as?

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>>52344382
>lost an argument
>proceeds to mock as damage control
>I was just pretending to be retarded

>>52344382
They're not triggered over girls, they're triggered over "MUH LORE" autism.
It's the same kind of people who have a fit when they see a death guard army using bikes or jump packs.

>>52344386
Cypher shows up and helps him, girlyman realizes who he is and has him arrested only for him to escape again.