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MasterMarine edition

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>>52111639

>Daily Duncan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vljZDKUFMEc

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android.
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>40k rules reference in wiki format. 300% organized, apparently.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQs. They're really fired up!
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
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>List organizer picture book, please ask us about it anyway
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>Offline list builder
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>Forge World Book Index:
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>The Black Library (Now with more daemons)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
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Odds of the rumored Super SMs being true are what, anons?
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WOOOO!
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>>52120319
If that pic from last thread is the real deal, 100%
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>>52120309
I like this general pic.
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>>52120333
Took me a whole 20 seconds
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Rules for the holy hand grenade in 7th ed please
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>>52120319
Its not first time they upgraded models, people who scream its ruining setting don't know about past.
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>>52120319

Reposting just for you.
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Well at least one of my armies is not getting squatted

Those are some lucky Guardsmen, my sisters? Not so lucky poor girls.
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Nth for space marines getting squatted
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>>52120309
Fucked up the OP, actual old thread >>52116546
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>>52120361

I dunno. Looks very much like someone's collection, and the Marine could easily be a kitbash, providing we could find the parts. Someone said the bolter was from Chapterhouse but I couldn't find it on there.
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Nth for spiritual liege
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>>52120361
If that's Mark X, where's Mark IX?
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IMPERIUM
AELDARI
XENOS (TAUS, NECRONS, ORKS AND TYRANIDS)
CHAOS

FUCKING CHOOSE YOUR ALLEGIANCE
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>>52120361
If those are the new marines I'll buy the shit out of them.
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>>52120363
Sisters won't get squatted
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>>52120361
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a kitbash really.

As others said, the rest of the pic is suspicious.
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I live near warhammer world and all I can say is, get your wallets ready for June.
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>>52120345
I don't get it
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Why would the woke get FW when doubles look this good
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>>52120382
>>52120408
I think it was a cheeky snapchat or something from a high up in GW to a mate comparing the poses of this new marine to that old guardsman that whoever was sent it leaked. Makes sense to me because they decided to mark out the poster on the wall, something a slightly dodgy m8 that still wants to be on your good side would do when they couldn't help but share it out.
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>>52120434
I meant to make the general image.

Forgot to replace the thread link because I was fixing Daily Duncan though
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What's the most popular points' format in Europe?
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>>52120427
Shit, I'm spending my summer in Singapore, I'll wait to get back to the UK in september before buying anything.
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>>52120457

1k, 1500, 1750, 2000, 2500.
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>>52120451
That would make sense.
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>>52120471
>1750
>not 1850
eurocucks
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>>52120360
I love the beekee one. It's so cute/cartoony.

>>52120450
I didn't know the primarch models were that small. What seller was this?
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>>52120309

Eldar/Human hybrid marines back when?
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>>52120481
>needing another 100pts to field the part of your gut resting on the table edge
amerifats
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>>52120408
Backback is new, collar dedesign is different form mk 8, only chestplate that even resembles is >>52120450

It'd be easier to sculpts it than to kitbash that much shit.
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>>52120471
Great, thanks. Nothing between 1k and 1,5k?
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>>52120554
1250 (although rare)
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>>52120488
HY
FW primarchs are definitely a great deal shorter than giga-robutt but I'd just extend and thicken his limbs a bit if I wanted a count as.
Tzeentch Gully is pure ass.
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>>52120554

Occasionally 1250, but not particularly common. The most played, at least in south-west Scotland where I am is 1500.
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GW is doing a 600pt tourney near me soon, id rather play killteam below 1k points 2bh
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>>52120554
1500 is the main one here in England
1000 and 2000 are next, then povvos and noobs will do 500
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>>52120450
I strangely like GW's better, because he looks like space marine from 40k, not like some Italian dude from historical movie.
>>52120562
He isn't much bigger than FW.
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>>52120498
Tfw too intelligent for 1750 pts
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>>52120309
can regular space wolves use relics from champions of fenris?
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>>52120361
This is cool and all, but why is nobody talking about that new ork pose and why there's a huge censor bar?
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>>52120620
>new ork pose
>wielding a bolt pistol from 1993
don't think so champ
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>>52120620
Thats not a new ork. its just one of the savage oruks from AoS.
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>>52120591
He looks like a chaos robot from the neck down
He's smaller than other primarchs, he was the very first one made and didn't have a reference of scale to others
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What's the go-to Death Guard list? I'm a noob and am looking for direction to build towards
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Since new Marines are confirmed until someone can find their bits in other sets, I guess we can safely speculate on their crunch.

Will they just be alternate models to use for your Marines, a new unit choice or a Swuad-wide upgrade that gives them all Custodes stats?
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>>52120991
Chaos warband with maximum bikers for maximum fluff RAPE. Typhus, terminators and plague zombies othwise.
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So, what are you guys gonna do when 40k gets squatted?
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which is the best space marine loyalist chapter

and why is it space wolves
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>>52120994
Chances are it'll be small changes for no points increase. Could be that the bolter will be 30" range, the armour provides a 6+ invuln, +1" to movement or possibly even be built in auspexes.

Just enough to make you feel like you're missing out only using the old armour marks.
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Design a single unit from your codex to one turn kill roberto gargamel.
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>>52121014
My nids will be showing up in 30k a lot.
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>>52120994
An elite unit with expensive point.
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>>52121014
probably spend thousands of dollars on something else.
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>>52121039
Ah yes, your megarach-nids?
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>>52121011
What Aux.? Just a single spawn? Also are Daemon Princes a popular choice?
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>>52120991
>>52121011
This
or combine the bike squad but that only saves you 40 points for the upgrades, which having double the melta and power weapons would likely be the better choice
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>>52120994
looks about the same size as deathwatch, so unless the game rules change dramatically I wouldn't expect them to be that different from regular (veteran) marines
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>>52121048
No just actual nids, the fluff autists can just get bent.
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>>52121059
maybe drop the 3rd havoc squad so you can have 2 squads of 7 bikes, leaving your sorcerer better protected
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>>52121074
kek good luck then, the HH game is only fluff autists and a white guy.
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>>52121025
>small changes
>suddenly able to outrange most standard troops, kite them around by having that extra inch of movement and having a 15% chance of surviving everything
>same point cost

Every one of those changes is a pretty huge buff, let alone all of them.
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>>52121014
Rage, then move on.
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>>52121087
I've already done it with the local hh guys before. Most were fine except the tiny handful of fluff autists who also like to complain about everyone using mkvii armour in some units.
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>>52121034

Bloodthirster of Khorne's Wrath with Skullreaver and two greater gifts. If one of the greater gifts is crap, swap it for a blade of blood to gain rampage and try to multi-charge Gulliman and one of the units standing near him to recieve that extra D3 attacks instead of the +1 charge bonus.

Anyhow the strategy is to out initiative him and get D hits on 6es as he does. Average of 8 attacks if that rampage trick works.

Not perfect, kinda luck based. If I was allowed to bring other units into things I'd buff the Bloodthirster's invul way up to tank non-D hits better, or just straight up make him invisible even though I normally avoid cheesing so far as to use invisibility.
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>>52121057
Nurgle DP was allways popular, your opponent will probably expect one and bring something to deal with him. Spawn or tLatD depends if you need big tarpits of fast tarpits. Heldrakes if flyers are allowed at your store.
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>>52121093
But tacticals are really overcosted for what they do now.
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>>52120614
d-does anyone know

plz /tg/ you are my only hope
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>>52121059
What would be a more fun, less spammy (but still decent) version of this at 1,5k?
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>>52121093
Not huge at all compared to stat buffs or anything similar, but enough to give them a fair edge over earlier marks.

The fluff for this is going to be retarded as fuck I just know it, mkVIII is barely out the door and now it's "oh wait another slightly improved suit that's going to take centuries to get into mainline production and for any chapters outwith the deathwatch to be outfitted with it yaaay!"
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>>52121034

Strategium command team with a chaplain for zealot, an Aquila kill team for rerolling ones to wound, 7 heavy thunder hammers and 3 regular thunder hammers.

Add in a dedicated transport Corvus blackstar with stormstrike missiles. If I can score a wound with the stormstrike missiles before charging, then every hammer gets to hit.
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>>52121093
>6++
>huge buff
Sisters of Battle and Mark of Tzeentch called, they said you're a fag.
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>>52121156
More terminators, terminator lord or DP, sorcerer on bike with one squad of bikes, regardless I'd still spam autocannon havocs because they're just great. I'll make up a list or two
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>>52121034
3 stonecrusher fexs, 3D3 S10 AP2 monsterhunter hammer of wrath hits should put a dent in him, then the actual fexs attacks are S10 Ap 1 with rerolls from poison if you spring for it. Bioplasma gives you 3 plasma cannon shots before you charge.
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>>52120661
He IS the reference for scale if he was the first. The Primarchs were not all the same height in the fluff, so why should the models all be exactly the same height. I'd like to see a 30k RG to 40k RG comparison.
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While it may be better to wait a few months than build an army now, is there any way to make this list salvageable using the new UM formation?
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>>52121209
Thanks a lot Anon, much appreciated. Will be monitoring the thread
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>>52121212

Okay average of 3D3 is six, and with monster hunters we can assume all of them wound.

That's 2 wounds, or 1 and 1/3 after FNP.

Then he out initiatives you and kills one or two carnifexes before you swing back.
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>>52121034
12 dude Grav Kataphrons with re-rolling every shot Canticles or the Archmagos +3 or +2 BS Canticles.

72 Grav shots should put on some damage.
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>>52120994
>Since new Marines are confirmed
What ? Isn't that one of the stupider rumors ? Their description basically sounds like GW wants Custodes armies and when the guy was describing the model it sounded EXACTLY like pic related.
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>>52121249
Read the thread retard.
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>>52121249
Have you even read the thread or are you just baiting?

There's no evidence yet to disprove the leaked image.
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>>52121093
Anon, you realize that SM infantry have been among the worst in the game for years, right?
That their saving grace has been everything else around them, rather than themselves?
SM infantry has needed something for years, either to be less expensive, for the bolter to be a better infantry gun or more capable.
Anon, you need to play marines more and know what is good about them and what is not before you start complaining about buffs for what has been one of the mechanically worst infantry units in the history of 40k.
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>>52121057
Lost and the damned, give the apostle the nurgle stick that lets you turn cultists into zombies
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>>52120361
>implying that isn't a kitbash
The poorly painted gaurdsman next to it gives it all away, that's not from GW's studios.
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>>52121240
Yeah but then you have 4-8 more ap 2 attacks that wound on 2s with rerolls plus you can plasma cannon him first. Its not s sure thing but certainly feasible.

If you're not concerned about 1 turn 30 toxinsac hormagaunts will do it eventually ( they take 6 turns to kill him on average, but he'll take 8 turns to kill all of them)
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>>52121048
Tyranids are already a trademark of gw, are they not?

Most of their creature also have quite unique names, so I can see them as the faction with the least armount of namerape
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>>52121239
Fuck it 1500 is a really shitty point level.
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Are Raptors good in Death Guard army? I have a box of the fuckers laying around and I don't really like bikers
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>>52121275
>>52121143
I know that Tacticals are in a pretty bad spot right now and need some changes, not even arguing with that. I just don't see them outright giving that new Mark a buff without changing their cost or the original Marine cost.
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>>52121370
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Megarachnid
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>>52121326
Also makes it look like the marine is only barely, if any, larger than excisting marines
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>>52121380
>Fuck, 1500 really is the best point level***
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>>52121326
Be useful and find the kits the parts are from, then.
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>>52121380
How so? Doesn't seem too restrictive
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>>52121362
Are you accounting for the losses when you say 6 turns, or is it "this does this turn one, we'll need 6 turns of that"?
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>>52121362
He can choose to hit 2 ranks of them from base to base with him. They'll go down in 2-3 turns tops.
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>>52121396
that's a good thing

lure the truescale babies out with a scale shot against the old perry metal scale, then go "gotcha" and reveal they were just normal marine size all along
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>>52121390
How else are they to sell?
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>>52120361
Instead of making marines tru scale, GW is creating new breed of marines.
Why?
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>>52121390
infantry in general are really suffering from being obsolete right now. There are just so many things that can remove infantry by the handfull in a single phase, except some units with insane buffs from special rules or formations.
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>>52121424
Because the 'marines are too small omg I needs my truscale' meme needs to die.

And before you start complaining about "But cadians are as tall as marines !" -that is exactly the issue, GW makes human models too large, not marines too small.
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>>52121024
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>>52120591
Mortarion of Barbarus. You may consider the following. One: I entirely withdraw my previous offer of solemn ceasefire. It is cancelled, and will not be made again, to you or to any other of your motherless bastards. Two: you are no longer any brother of mine. I will find you, I will kill you, and I will hurl your toxic corpse into hell’s mouth
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>>52121380
1500pts is a great level because it means only the most faggot of players brings lords of war and jewish formations.

makes the game way better
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>>52121396
They've been doing it lately with the Deathwatch and Rubric Marines.
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>>52121424
Even assuming the model is real, this could easily be just a new mark of armor, and not actually "uber marines"
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>>52121484

Those fix the proportions up a little, still in the "heroic" oversized hands, heads and weapons style, but a subtle bit more like they actually fit in their armour.

Which is good, all that was really needed. Truescale retards can't seem to wrap their heads around that the majority of factions, besides plastic humans, are scaled correctly to marines.

What I'd really like to see is truescale vehicles. Not sold by GW as that'd cause a mess, but rather as conversions. Better use of time than wedging plasticard circles into marine limbs to stretch them.
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>>52121506

I don't think anyone would be bothered by Mark IX armour, but the SUPAMUREENS rumour sounds horrible.
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>people LOSING THEIR SHIT over what is basically Custodes 2.0
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>>52121522
the problem with true-scale vehicles is they do not play nicely in the wargame itself

>>52121551
Deathwatch 2.0, more like. Might use these guys for something, but the head and rifle have to go.
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>>52121534
The supramarines sounds completely fake, and AFAIK completely baseless. Hastings only talked about the new armor, but I've yet to see any reliable source say "supramarines in next edition"
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>>52121551
You spend your money buying space marines, chaos space marines, forgeworld space marines, and they become obsolete by bigger and better midel. Shure HH legion specific marines look better, but size makes up for that.
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>>52121410
Yeah, they do it in 3 turns if he kills none,
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>>52120361
GUYS

IT WAS TRUE
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>>52121569
>obsolete
That is not how it works and you know that very well.
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>>52120309
how much money do you guys spend each year on 40k and 40k related stuff

i spent 300€ last year according to my calculations
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>>52121424
Marines are already "truescale". The out of scale ones are the current IG minis. Everything else and the old IG sculpts is fine
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>>52121385
Sure. With 2 x melta/plasma and combi melta plasma they can make a good counteroffensive against any walker/tanks/teminator/MC that hang around in your half of the field. I normally don't deep strike them, i just jetpack them in from my side, their treat range is big enough and the risk of mishaps to big.
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Rate my shitty list
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>>52121586
>That is not how it works
Says who..?
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Grey Knight players, welcome to the world of being NPC.

There is no need for your army in a setting of Custodes who leave the Emperor's side.
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>Mfw new marines will be sold out in 1h after release and all these faggots will be claiming that they were not the whiny bitches crying that 41k is a separate universe
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>>52121613
they still have the nicest looking terminators, for now
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>>52121613
We've been through this.

Grey Knights are more powerful than Custodes as a united force.

Custodes are shit at that, but good at 1 on 1.
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>>52121589
About $200 or so.
My armies are finished in terms of purchases (got a big painting backlog though ". Just picking up the occasional new release or book.
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>>52121589
200 bucks on two sets of minis and a set of paint.
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>>52121618
>everyone who dislikes Rabbimarines are fags!
Noblebright kid, please
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>>52121602
Good enough, that bringing 2 squads of 5 instead of bikers would be an alright move?
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>>52121586
That's EXACTLY how it works.
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>>52121648
There is literally nothing wrong with noblebright.
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>>52121611
GW
Warhammer minis don't become obsolete. You may really want the new version, but its never required.
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>>52120493
When one of the lost legions come back.
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>>52121679
pretty much

i have some ork boyz from the 90s that i still use.
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>>52120481
Where the fuck does 1850 come from anyways? Every other standard points list I've ever seen is an increment of 250. Did somebody host a tournament way back, and he REALLY wanted that extra predator or something, and it just caught on?
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>>52121648
It's about hypocrisy Anon, not about taste. People are crying about thing that is merely a rumour. Some faggots have been eating shit for so long that they will defend it with their lives.
I bet that GW will release a new super-duper chapter of slightly higher marines and use these new higher models to release squads for older chapters too. No drama, no model goes into the thrash - maybe SM players will have to rebase their old models on bigger bases, that's all
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>>52121658
No new army (let alone models) has ever made older ones obsolete you thick shit.
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>>52121607
4/7 You give up a lot of points for thos plague knifes and debuffing your enemys melee, where you shouldn't be anyway.

Your havocs won't get the cover bonus but they would profit the most from it.

I would split the zombies in 5 10 corpse squads for field coverage
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What the fuck lads? I screencapped this yesterday on Black Library, assuming Saturday would be the GW release, but it isn't.

So what the fuck?
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>>52121679
>Warhammer minis don't become obsolete.
Except their fluff (and most likely rules)
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>>52121589
I spend about $100 aud a week on the hobby. I feel like I get a lot of value for that cash, though.
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Oh for fuck sake, the shitposting doomsayers are still here?

What do you care? I've gone through rule changes before. What about the AoS tier -2 Rend that 2nd Edition used to have? Don't hear you chucklefucks mention that.
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>>52121732
No.

You can use any mini, even ones without current rules by using their last available rules.

GW have said this.
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>>52121732
Well yeah that sometimes happens. But thats a whole nother thing and usually still doesn't render minis obsolete. Squats still get run as IG counts as.

Necron pariahs are just old lychguard
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>>52121732
>Except their fluff
You need fluff to run an army? That's something new
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>>52121699
sort of

1850 is GWUS's tournament standard from third edition. Everywhere else stuck to 1750, for the most part. It's just kind of stuck, even after GW stopped hosting their tournaments, since the US is where most of the tourneyfags were.

>>52121745
crybabies weren't around for RT->2e
they also weren't around for the absolute grog-decimation that was 2e->3e

40k almost died in '98.
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>>52121712
Should still be coming soon
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/10/talons-of-the-emperor-in-the-41st-millennium/
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>>52121732
Not their rules. GW have already said you just use the oldest available rules. So that Slaaneshi Dreadnought you have? Still legal if you have the latest published rules.
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>>52121655
Sure. Just don't let anybody shoot at them. There are only 2 wounds before they loose their utility. I unusally take 2xmelta + combiplasma for versatility.
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>>52121607
10/10 for not spamming bikes like every other 'I'm totally not WAACing guize' Deathguard player under the sun.
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>>52121763
Then they should fuck off. Grognards cried about RT-2e, then they cried about 2e-3e. Yet 40k is still around. Every fucking major change is 'the end of X'. Hell, even WHFB went through this and now AoS is (apparently) selling way better than WHFB ever did post Herohammer.

If you're that pissed off, stop buying (even recasts) and start playing old editions with your mates if you for some reason hate the new ones. It's boring as fuck seeing this EVERY FUCKING TIME IT HAPPENS. I had to put up with my mate going "I'M GOING TO SELL MY MODELS!" in '99, but for some reason refusing to sell them to me on the cheap (we both had Chaos). I saw him 5 years later and guess what he still had... but expanded? That's right, his CSM army.
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>>52121764
Holy shit. That's a nice box. As for the rules, they're for 40k right? I love their 30k models as well. Can they be used in both do you know? I'd love to buy the cool Dreads and tanks and use them in 40k. But I suspect that won't be possible.
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scan when?
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>>52121607
you're going to struggle against armour

I'd consider dropping one of the plague squads+rhinos for a pair of terminator units with combi-meltas+1 fist.

>>52121801
>It's boring as fuck seeing this EVERY FUCKING TIME IT HAPPENS.
You know the next three months are going to suck.
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>>52121821
Why not? You can even use same daemons models both in 40k and AoS
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>Tyranids will never get an update
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>>52121710
This better? Man there's like zero variety here.. Plague colony is just way too points intensive and warband is monobuild
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>>52121801
AoS is the 4th most selling game in the US. When was the last time Fantasy was even close to that?
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So I've gathered the feedback from this thread and came up with this monstrosity.

Does it look good?

I'm not aiming for waac-level of strength, just wanna win 40-45% of games with randoms and friends.
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>>52121851
That was also not counting official GW stores, which is something like 40% of their sales, so it's probably higher overall.
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I finally got my White Dwarf after complaining, 2 weeks late (as I'm a subscriber). So now I gotta power read it.

>>52121844
Because I just went and read the page and it only mentions 40k. As for the contents, it's Land Raiders and Rhinos. I hope we can use 30k models. I want one of those Swole Dreadnoughts.
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>>52121855
Forgot to swap meltas on termies for plasmas
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>>52121851
In 2013 it wasn't in the Top 5.
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>>52121863
>I hope we can use 30k models
I'm sure there will be no problem with it
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>>52121759
Its a roleplaying game.
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>>52121877
No, it's a tabletop war game.
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>>52121751
GWuck
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>>52121877
are you one of those fags that wear a hat when you play imperial guard
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>>52121877
It was*
Nothing stops you on making your own fluff for your army m8
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>>52121874
Neat. I want these guys.
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>>52121849
Nobody told you to take bikes. 2x cosen in rhinos,1x raptors and 2x csm in rhinos would've been my approach to substitute the pm.
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>people still fall for 1d4tard bait
>when these faggots never play 40k or fantasy at all
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>>52121898
are you one of those fags?
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>>52121902
but chosen and raptors are so bad
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>>52121905
How do we know they're from there? /wst/ was forced off by IRC raiders and there are Discord raid groups for other boards. So that's more likely.
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>>52121901
Woah what's that?
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>>52121855
Take off the havocs, they look cool and everything, but your rhino will die before making them useful. Take some ccw on you csm and havoc instead, gives thaem a chance against annoying jump MEQ etc.
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>>52121767
Completely out of context.
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What is the general opinion on these fuckers?
Useful or better off being used as terrain?
Aegis defense lines are pretty useful to keep my dudes alive but I have yet to find a niche where I can fit bastions.
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>>52121919
Still cheaper and better than pm, retard.
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>>52121948
Forgot your image?
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>>52121948
Forgot pic
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>>52121845
It hurts
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>>52121928
The left one? It's a Custodes only Heavy Dreadnought. Guy on the right is one of the normal ones you can get right now used as a comparison.

I hope I can use these for SoS as well.
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>people crying about no new updates when we're getting 8e Age of Girlyman in a few months
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>>52121955
T6 marines are no joke, no less in a vectorium. They're not cost efficient but are one of the better selections.
Raptors are just trash and should never be taken
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Is there a image search option to search 4chan archives?
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>>52121989
Go to the archive, search by filename, or upload the image if you have it.
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>>52120361

Okay, guys, I'm sorry to break this to you all:

You're just got trolled.

1- The head is the Devastator Centurion Sergeant.
2- The "pip" is the Deathwatch Watch Master's Clavis. The embellishments have been scratched away/greenstuffed away.
3- The boltgun is a mish-mash of a regular boltgun with several bits from the Magos Dominus' weapon.
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>>52121996
Thanks. I had hoped there was an auto arrow click option on 4chan itself.
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>>52121977
How are you getting T6 plague marines? Seems like you have no experience with raptors.
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>>52122002
Still, this is how new marines should look like
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What's the best price I can hope for a Landraider? I've always hoped I could get one for around £30 as no one seems to use them but they're always expensive.

Maybe with this new box set coming out they might get sold cheaper on ebay.
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>>52122002
Called it.
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>>52122013
Plague marines are T5, Nurgle infers +1T
Nurgle nor the vectorium really helps raptors
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>>52122002
Where is the collar from?
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>>52121564
It's far more likely that the fluff is going in the direction of Guilliman and Cawl putting out new armour, new bolter patterns, a few new varieties of special and heavy weapon, maybe some new vehicles etc. No way there'll be 'super marines', maybe in the fluff they'll talk about how the process of creating marines has been streamlined and perfected, but I highly doubt they'll just throw out ANOTHER marine dex in addition to the 6 we already have.
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>>52121939
Good call. Now I'm wondering if it's worth dropping one of the havocs' extra bodies to add a third spawn instead... Seems logical
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>>52122002
So what are the legs from?

I'm guess the collar is just a cut down DW mk 8 or something
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>>52122030
Looks like regular Mk 8
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>>52122002
none of those parts actually match up
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>>52122035
No, mk8 collar is vertical, none flare out.
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>>52122025
The +1T from MoN is already included in the profile - PMs are T5
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>>52121874
>>52121901
Yes, I'm sure the AdMech will agree with you on that. FW is well known for allowing their shit outside of HH.

I mean, just look at all those Myrmidons and Thallax all over the place, right?
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Did we ever find out what this was ?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/08/rumour-engine-2/
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>>52121759
>You need fluff to run an army?
Kind of since rules are shit.
But it's probably me since I've never understood poeple who enjoys to play army of sidecicks
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Anybody thinking the Super Space Marines are legit need to sit the fuck down and think. Why do we only have one picture next to a shit painted IG?

Answer? It's a kitbash.
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>>52121966
Dildomobile.
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>>52122056
It's AoS dwarf stuff.
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>>52122002
Nope, none of them match up.
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>>52122062
>Kind of since rules are shit.
Wait, are you using fluff instead of rules?
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So how's this for a "competetive" Skitarii CAD?
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>>52122074
>>52122037
Samefag.
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>>52122025
Nobody can be this stupid.
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>>52121905
>only people who never play hates Ultramarines
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>>52122080
Nah, mate. I just think they don't match up.
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>>52121277
Generally the HH book series depicts all marines as around 8 feet. Loken is described as being 2,5 meters and random Blood Angels as "well over 2 meter tall"
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>>52122002
The parts resemble the ones you mentioned aesthetically but none match the dimensions.
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>>52122025
Have you touched a codex in this decade? MoN is already part of their profile they are T5. Raptors a mobile, something DG lacks without the damn bikes.
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>>52122002

>its another denialfag

Cool bro. You're a wrong faggot
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>>52122078
Nope my dear shill I saying that fluff and models keeps people in 40k.
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I've been out of the loop on 40k for a few years, but I just got linked a 'cap summarizing something called Fall of Cadia. WTF? Also apparently shit's actually happening with Ynead and Guilliman's alive and awake? Apparently 40k actually has a plot now, so what's a good way to get caught up?
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>>52122098
What the fuck why did they shrink 6 feet?
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>>52122104
Google: Gathering Storm
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>>52122104
Buy the three Gathering Storm books.

Read those.

You probably want Warzone Fenris books too, since that covers Magnus coming back.
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>>52122118
>Buy
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>>52122108
wat
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Today I saw the saddest thing I've ever seen in a game of 40k.
>blood angels drop pod full of tacticals
>goes behind an Ork battlewagon packed with boyz
>heavy flamer
>d6 wounds on the boyz
>rolls a double 6 to pen the battlewagon
>it explodes
>nob fails his pinning test, killing two more boyz before failing his moral and running away
>near 200+ points of Orks dead from one heavy flamer
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>>52122103
But we are not talking about what keeps people in 40k We are talking about models and the fact that Warhammer minis don't become obsolete. Fluff or not - you only need rules to use them
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>>52122118
I don't think I can justify spending that much on fluffbooks right now, let alone getting back into the game. Are there any good summaries available?
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>>52122002
I bet you were on team 3 during the wulfen incident.
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>no Tau posters in the last 3 threads
Where are my Greater Good bros at?
What're y'all's favorite lists that aren't riptide/crisis/missileside spam? What's your favorite unit to brutally strip away cover saves from? What's your favorite AV 10 vehicle to blast into smoldering slag with your basic infantry?
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>>52122103
t. Slav
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>>52122104
Pick an army and read their fluff?
What interests you?
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>>52122033
You might as well do that. They are very good at disabling infiltrators and scouts for the first 2 turns by melee.
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>>52122140
There are some on DakkaDakka
Also aren't the scans available by now?
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>>52122002
>>52120361
Hold on. That gun looks suspiciously similar to one chapterhouse used to sell
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>>52122130
>playing Orks
His fault. I bet he is a fucking Dan player and may have taunted the BA player for getting beaten with a shit army.
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>>52122182
Show it.
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>>52122104
In short:

>Abaddon decides to take Cadia in a crusade
>He can't, so he proceeds to blow up Necron shit underground (figures) and destroys the planet
>Creed gets Pokeball'd

>The Eldar are also getting fucked somewhere else
>Biel-Tan goes ahead and decides "we need a new god"
>They create Ynead and saves their asses but just barely
>They agree with the help of the Imperium they can defeat Chaos, but not in their current state, they need a new Emperor

MEANWHILE

>Magnus comes back and decides to fuck Fenris up once and for all
>He fails and the SW kick him out, but not before he lays a curse on Fenris

AND THEN

>Magnus decides to fuck Ultramar next
>An archmagus and the Eldar unite to bring back Girlyman to be the new leader of the Imperium
>A triumverate is formed with Girlyman's Ultramarines, some Grandmaster and his Grey Knights, and Cypher and fallen Dark Angels

And that's where we are at now
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>>52122179
Just checked the mega links at the top, there are scans of 2 Gathering Storm books but it seems there are 3 total. Guess I know what I'm reading today.
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Does someone have a link to the maga folder that has the third gathering storm book? Would be gladly appreciated.
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Can someone spoon feed me the new gathering Storm lore? Is it available to read in pdf or something? Keep me posted
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>>52122163
As in "tar pitting enemy's alpha strike units"?
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>>52122145

Don't ruin it
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>>52122208
mega* I meant. Also, to the guy who asked about the dakka summary: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/720192.page
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>>52122187
>playing Orks
>His fault.

You were supposed to destroy GW's NPC regime, not join them!
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>>52122054
I'm pretty sure AdMech can use Thallax.
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>>52122191
Here it is.
It's not an exact match, but it could easily be kitbashed with some other bolter parts in that pic
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>>52122213
As well as ratlings, eldar rangers, the whole Alpha Legion, this that come out of drop pods...
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>>52122236
Only thing that matches is magazine, and GW makes them too.
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Is there a 40K Discord thing to chat in?
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>>52122187
He plays Ork boy swarms, I doubt he's ever beaten anyone.
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>>52122233
No, no we cannot. No 30k stuff whatsoever until IA14 comes out at some nebulous time in a few months.
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>>52122002
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>>52121966
The sisters of silence ride in a sand worm? Cool!
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>>52122079
Find space for more Onagers.
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>>52122222
Thanks, >>52122199 was a little too brief. What are my Tau up to? Doing actual shit, squatted, completely ignored (would probably be for the best)?
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>>52122145
>no Tau posters in the last 3 threads
Good
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>>52122290
Completely ignored
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>>52122290
Same as non-Eldar xenos.
Ignored.
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>>52122294
Original sub?
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R8 it
Thinking about making this for 8th, using Red Butchers models for the Termies
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>>52122290
The ynnari mention them once in one sentence with Orks while searching for allies.
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>>52122276
Sure, but when it does, you should be able to field a fair amount of the 30k stuff. Probably all of it in fact, as long as its points don't eclipse your modern stuff.
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>>52122296
Well, at least my models should still be usable if I get a better job and can afford to get back in the game. Always liked their designs and dakka.
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>>52122079
Infiltrators are better than ruststalkers
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>>52122310
Don't know, another devou/tg/uardsman made it.
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>>52122310
"Jew".

From what I remember Memri is an Israeli news channel that cherry picks such examples to use a propaganda.
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>>52122350
He is even worse than a Jew, he is - may Allah forgive me for uttering this word - a Jew..

That don't make sense friend.
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Faggot Tier
Tau
Ynnari

Okay Tier
The rest not mentioned

Loser Tier
Sisters
Dark Eldar

Why do you exist Tier
Orks
Tyranids

Is this list true?
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>>52122327
True, although I expect either significant nerfs, some kind of "Relic of the Armoury" restriction on it or losing all the cool stuff, since they don't want to eclipse 30k at all. A Macrocarid would be nice, though. Torrent AP3 Fleshbane is a sight better than those Kastelan flamers for killing hordes, and maybe we'll get Myrmidons. Sexy, sexy Myrmidons.
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>>52122243
My lack of experience with the game shows - didn't even think about drop pods
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>>52122323
And dismiss them both in favor of big mon-keigh ultracock.
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>>52122367
You forgot timmy-tier.
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>>52122367
Add Eldar cheese lists to Faggot Tier and you got it hombré.
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>>52122367
>jealous manlet shitposting on a Mongolian horse-wrangling forum
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>>52122318
As an IG player I rate this an AAAAAAAAAAH/10.
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>>52122318
Is this supposed to be bait?
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>>52122310
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>>52122367
Forgot daemons and magnus
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>>52122371
It's a shame they don't put out band-aid test rules for AdMech like they do for their knight varieties. Oh wait, I'd rather they didn't do that given that I know a guy with infinite money that just added this asshole creature to his arsenal a few days ago:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-WW/Acastus-Knight-Porphyrion
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>>52122367
If this game only consisted of Orks, DE an Nids in their current form it would be a very fun and balanced game.

source: my meta
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>>52122411
What do Orks and DE do to flyrants?
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>>52122389
Oh, why?

>>52122392
Me and a buddy, who's making a similar style Sharkmarine list, decided that we'll hopefully have a better balanced 8th ed and we can just meme it this Ed
That and i fell in love with the RBs, and just needed the excuse for the Scorpian
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>>52122367
>Why do you exist Tier
>Orks
>Tyranids
No need to rub it in.
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>>52122386
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>>52122417
Apparently you've never heard of Traktor Kannons.

Not to mention mass Tankbustas are always forcing jinks on HT's.
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>>52122374
You only have to remember them when deploying actually. They won't do anything for the rest of the game.

Well expect last week where a stormbolter shoot my dark apostle warlord because he tried to tank for my cultist. He was a very caring shepard.
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>>52122440

>u want some m8 ill pulse ur nards off
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spess mahreen player here. thought I would dip my feet and make an IG list since I would like to build that army or nids next. I'd like to know how viable this list is on the table.
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>>52122419
Because Sly Marbo. Still there is lots of obsolete equipment like the Icon on the havocs, the second chainfist etc.
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>>52122441
Nah I haven't really seen Orks in 7e. Good to know there's at least one good thing that came out of that dex
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>>52122281
I was think Celestine could screen for the Ruststalkers and activate her saintly blessing when they can be useful.
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>>52122468
>676x6726
If you want anyone to look at it, trim all the useless shit first.
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>>52122423
Well, I hope that they will be updated and buffed in 8e - I want to start playing 40k and they are both my favourite factions
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>>52122472
Fair enough, it's a proof of concept
Let's hope 8th isn't shit
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>>52120361
I Think I found his Pistol:
http://anvilindustry.co.uk/Exo-Lords/Black-Ops/Black-ops-pistols
Gun seems similar to these
http://anvilindustry.co.uk/Exo-Lords/Black-Ops/Black-Ops-Suppression-Team-Negotiators

http://anvilindustry.co.uk/Exo-Lords/Black-Ops/Lance-Carbine

not sure about the Legs, Body could just be from a Tactical Marine
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>>52122479
Valid, but a single Onager is such a dead target without the incense from his buddies. Your only real AA option is tall enough that it can't really line of sight itself effectively while watching the skies, and it's not particularly durable without the invul/cover/whatever from his buddies.
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>>52121237
Nobody have an opinion?
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Yvraine is hotter than Celestine by a factor of feet
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>>52122423
Don't worry about it, man. You guys will get a buff, and if there is any justice in the world, we may even get to see Tau and Eldar get knocked down a couple of pegs.
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>>52122494
Nothing is even close, not sickle mag pistol, wider bore, it's obviously plastic not resin.
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>>52122475
Well the Traktor Kannon is arguably one of the best anti-air weapons in the game due to it being relatively cheap and semi-twinlinked.

36" Str 8 AP3 Heavy 1, Skyfire, Traktor

Traktor: This weapon automatically causes an Immobilised result in addition to any other effects when it scores a glancing or penetrating hit against a Zooming Flyer. If a Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature suffers one or more Wounds from this weapon it suffers a -3 penalty to its Grounded test that turn.

Its 30 points, T7, 2 Wounds and can have 4 T7 grots for ppm surrounding it for protection.

Oh, and you can take up to 5 in a single squad.
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>>52122498
Good point I'll think on that.
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>>52121237
>>52122507
I'm wondering where your anti tank is besides Guilliman.
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>>52122514
What Tyranid unit is this?
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>>52122514
>caring about feet
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>>52122514
Footfags go back to wanking to Kamui.
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>>52122514
Thicc>>>>> filthy xeno whore who can't afford shoes
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>>52122514

As an actual foot fetishist, I can confirm all this footfaggery is clearly trolling. Nobody could possibly be turned on by the little plastic feet on a citadel sculpt.

Plus the rest of the woman matters too, and Yvraine looks way too ridiculous to be hot.
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>>52122525
He's got 4 Grav Devs.
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>>52122525
4 grav cannons dev squad with 3 doctrines, but I was wondering what combi to use and whether to drop the libs down to ML1 etc.
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>>52122514
>Yvraine is hotter than Celestine by a factor of feet
Agreed.
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>>52122514
>tfw no CelestineXGuilliman porn yet
Life is suffering
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>>52122554
>>52122559
Spotted them now. My bad. Combi you might want melta, or flamer for overwatch, or a mixture of the two. Keep the Libs at ML2 to be honest.
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>>52122573
>tfw no celestine, grayfax and yvraine porn where they get fucked by daemonettes and turn into them as well
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>>52122595
Soon
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>>52122595
>wanting that
>being a heretic
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So Warhammer 40,000: Armageddon is on sale on steam for the weekend.

Is it worth checking out?
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>>52122551

Hmm actually in retrospect Diazmonettes had fairly nice feet, but those were more of a chunky three toed lizard foot than a humanoid one.
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>>52122290
Getting attacked by a massive daemonic firestorm from space.
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>>52122632
Do you like panzer general, linear gameplay, one good unit/five traps per role and "yell into a can" voiceacting?
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>>52122492
Hope? Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment. I though Khornates were immune to tzzenchian trickery?
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I can't decide if I should join in playing red rush marines, or blue viking marines.

It'd be an easier decision if redmarines still had assault marine troops and I could just run a 90% jump list.

On the other hand though, the unique Dreadnoughts and Thunderwolves are really cool. Wulfen too, though they're a bit monopose for my taste.

But librarian dread HQ! Sandwich Guard! The Black Company!

I just want to smash things in a charge and have a lot of big robots!
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>in the grim darkness of /40kg/ there is only imperium shitposting and Eldar WAACfags
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>>52122695
Don't forget the NPC factions.
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>>52122695
And ninja Tau armies with a mentally challenged playerbase
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>>52122561
Did they deliberately make Guilliman look like Trump?
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>>52122720

Other than looking chubby in that picture, I don't see any resemblance.
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>>52122720
God-Emperor Trump is reborn. Praise Kek.
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>>52122720
Nah too large hands
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>>52122521
Well, to be fair, the image IS quite blurry.
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Anyone got the epub?
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>>52122663
We hope for some decent fights against decent warriors, not nancies that use magic or trickery
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Ordered the box, what Chapters should I model ?
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>>52122768
Ultramarines
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>>52122768
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>>52122768
Ultra marines, blood angels, marines malevolent, iron hands, imperial fists, mentors and mantis warriors.
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Lion when? Or Unforgiven are doomed to be executed or become Ultramarines lapdogs.
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>>52122768
Smurfs
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>>52122768
Lamenters
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>>52122782
>marines malevolent
Meanwhile, their presence were mentioned on Fenris as part of DA expedition, did they finally get some fluff?
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>>52122002
this is the cleanest, most well fitting conversion I have ever seen in my life. Youre full of shit
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How can I continue converting this guy so I can use him as a chaos lord of slaanesh?
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What's the best terminator box to buy for deathwatch conversions if I want a mix of assault and shooty but don't want to use any just stormbolter guys?
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denial is the first step
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>>52122861
Sigil of corruption/doom siren on the backpack.
Swap out the left arm for a mutation or a bolt pistol.
Possibly swap a pauldron to differentiate it from a stock AC.
Suitably freakish paint job.
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>>52122768
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>>52122861
Tentacle sword instead of a blade.
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>>52122278
but thats wrong, thats a computer panel on his arm, not deathwatch shit
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>>52122892
You mean?
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>>52122768

at least one lamentor
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>>52122768

Well, what canon chapters can be made with the shoulderpads in the deathwatch box?
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is it fixed yet?
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>>52122799
>>52122894
>>52122925
>not Ultramarines
kys shiteaters
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>>52122947
>Still focused on Worst Chapter

No, still broken.
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>>52122893
I mean, he's already got a holstered pistol, so I was just thinking of adding a cloak
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>>52122941
Any chapters. They get 1 Deathwatch Pauldron and you're supposed to do a transfer for the other.

Make a handful of chapters. 2-3 Fists, minimum, as they did -start- the Deathwatch after all.
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>>52122991

>Any chapters. They get 1 Deathwatch Pauldron and you're supposed to do a transfer for the other.

Wow, maybe don't speak authoritatively on stuff you know nothing about?
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>>52122782
>marines malevolent
Pls go
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>>52123018

Nigger, plz
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>>52122692
I have the same problem, I want some melee to back up my guard.
So far I'm thinking team Edward because I like the look of the death company
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>>52122947
Ask again in 6 months
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>static to hit and wound rolls
>measuring from the model not the base for shooting and movement
These better not be in 8th or I will sperg out
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>>52123034

>I want some melee to back up my guard.

Then do I have the formation for you, and the best thing is the entire formation fits inside a Stormlord!
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What do you guys think?
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Remove Ork and Nid players
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>>52123055
>bolters now wound on 4s
>And so ends the great Taudar supremacy, not with a bang, but a whimper
>>
Which kit has a ton of power swords/mauls (dangles friendly if possible)? I am looking to add a bunch to my box and wouldnt mind building something too
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>>52123055
Yeah, they will be.
Because y'know, the game is real difficult to play as it is.
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>>52123103
>Tau now always wound on 3+
And suddenly people go back to using a lot of firewarriors.
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>>52123128
That's cool, I have Wyverns.

Fuck Tau. :^)
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>>52123104
The DW terms box have 4 or 5. I think 2 swords too. Mostly for termys tho.
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>>52123128
So they go back to fluffy armies instead of mech spam?

Good.

Biggest problem with this game is lack of actually ground troops.
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>>52123096
Missile broadsides are almost always way better
Stop putting so many missiles on your crisis, they're better off with 2 fusion blasters. Also, devilfish those poor fire warriors
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>>52123171
Agreed. I would prefer if they gave back objective secured back to Troops and put back some 0-1 or 0-2 on stronger units. Leave a way to play some themed armies like Deathwing or Farsight Enclave but bring armies back to a solid core of grunts with a few specialist units that work as a scalpel rather than just cheese to spam after taking two minimal Troop units.
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>>52123242
It is really annoying how "force organization" in it's current form with decurions and formations really does just lead to half the codex being tax units you only take because you have to
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>>52123242
Troops do have obsec though
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>>52123222
so basically fusion blaster spam and give missiles only to broadsides??
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>>52123084
I have to admit I know very little of the skitarii.
What I can see is that they cost a lot more points than death company squads, what makes the extra expense worth it?
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>>52123339
>>52123339
>>52123339
fresh shitpost
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Since "8th" is all but confirmed for June, buying a unit to fill out a formation now is probably dumb right?
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Is it worth playing slaanesh since yncarne is just a better kos?
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>>52122406
Note: cant be used in 40k.
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>>52120994
Who boy am I glad I didn't get anything else when I ordered Guilliman. I was tempted to get the skyhammer tactical thing (3 tacticals and 3 drop pods), but now since new marines are on the way I'm going to hold off.
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>>52123096
Put High Yield Missile Pods on the Broadsides. They're better than Heavy Rail Rifles in most scenarios and HRR's job is better performed by meltas anyway.

Don't mix weapons on XV8s. Either go full Fusion Blasters or full Missile Pods. I prefer Fusion Blasters in case you go up against a lot of AV13/14.

More personal taste, but buy a Shas'vre for the squad of 4 XV8s and put the C&CN and MSS on that. Put double Missile Pods or double Fusions on the Commander instead. This lets you use your Commander's high BS. Target Lock and Velocity Tracker are good support systems for the last two hard points.

Your Riptide has an extra slot. Use it. Early Warning Override is cheap. Velocity Tracker will give you reliable anti-air.

This guy >>52123222 has good advice except for the Devilfishes. Your Strike Teams are in a good place as small, cheap units to contribute to other units and give that +1 BS. They are not big/valuable enough to make the most out of Devilfishes.
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>>52122720
Make the Imperium Great Again
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>>52122417
Nothing because in a meta that casual people don't bring waac cheese
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Is every 40k general pretty much just a support group for the victims of Tau rape?
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>>52124025
I play nids and win all my games against tau though
And I don't even use tl devs
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>>52123400
That's a fucking relief. I wonder how I should break the news?
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>>52124261
Smash it with a hammer
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>>52124294
I might let him play it and proxy plastic tubing as the big Ordinatus gun that kills basically anything in a line regardless of saves.
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what does /tg/ think about Canoness Bernadette ?
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>>52123055
learn some maths you fucking retard
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>>52125023
Lol, he's talking about wanting to keep the current system of WS and BS. You are bashing him for wanting to do a system that requires math yet still tell him to "learn some maths" which he obviously have since he prefers a more complicated system.

If anyone here is a retard it has to be you...
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