Warhammer Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

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First for RATS

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Lesbian Doom Chariot coming through.

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>>51719002
Not mine, for the record.

Vampires a best, though.

Third for is daemons of nurgle/nurgle rot bringers any good?

>>51719020
They're ok
Just remember to use StD to get some ranged and speedy units

Does anyone remember that tumblr that had a ton of unused concept art for WHF and 40k?

I'm trying to find the pics for the Tzeench Chosen unit. I think it was dated 2008.

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>>51719107
Looks like Warcraft. Aelf codex when?

>>51718236
Learn to paint faces

At the very least put some reikland fleshshade on the face so it sinks into the crevices

>>51719158
>Learn to paint faces

post a pic of a face you painted next to an index card with /tg and todays date.

also their is two layers of a wash on it already ;)

>>51719200
>also their is two layers of a wash on it already
Why do you lie on an anonymous message board

>;)
Oh youre just a total faggot? nevermind

>>51719158
Painting faces is overrated for tabletop.

Base + wash + highlight is more than adequate.

>>51719200
You added a wash. But you also painted over it and into the crevices which makes it moot.either that or you're making all your models look super flat through some photo voodoo. Either way the defensiveness of your posts seem unwarranted since you're asking for feedback.

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>>51719247
Youre right, but you havent even done that.

>>51718870
I posted this at the tail end of another thread a while back, but im still trying to get some opinions on this color scheme, before I try anything else.

So how many people have you met that use square bases?

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>>51719391
Shit, forgot the pick. Added a wash to it as well.

How well do Seraphon play? Was gonna either do them or Sylvaneth as my next order army.

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>>51719139

http://imgur.com/a/k3bQl

http://imgur.com/a/U7gBf

http://imgur.com/a/Lk3H2

Don't remember the Tumblr, but I had these links saved.

>>51719423
Much appreciated!

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>>51719413
What the fuck is wrong with you

>>51719423
Just looking over those links. It's cool to see concept art, but man, David Gallagher should be forced to re-learn how to draw faces.

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>>51719223
>>51719254

the pot in the top right corner is about 50/50 seraphim sepia and lahmian medium. I used it to paint two layers of wash on the skin (hands and face). Its not a heavy wash because I want the skin to be pale.

the pots in the back of the shot are all the paints and washes on the mini (not including the base) nine in total.

I never said I was trying to win a painting contest. I was mostly getting some opinions on the color combinations before I painted the other 29 the same way.

try not to be outrageous dick holes when people paint minis and post pics.

The pics people post are one of the best things about this place, don't fuck that up.

>>51719413
>Shit, forgot the pick. Added a wash to it as well.

looking good anon, it takes time, keep it up!

I have 3 Warhawks from my Fantasy days, and I notice me that they can be taken solo now. Would I be better off running them in a full squad of 3 or as separate entities?

>>51719611
I don't get why you thin seraphim sepia. It's a very light wash to begin with.

The point of washing skin is to add the contrast so people can see what you've done from an arm's length or more away, and since people can't tell from a relatively close up photo i think the washing has gone wrong.

And it goes both ways, people telling you to apply a wash to the face is not dickish behaviour, your answers, however, are.

Try to change yourself before you demand change in others.

>>51719611
>nine in total

actually ten, counted wrong, my mistake.

>>51719654
>I don't get why you thin seraphim sepia. It's a very light wash to begin with.

because if you use full strength seraphim sepia on pallid wych flesh it comes out very much darker than I want for a final color. It's deliberate.

>>51719254
>all your models look super flat through some photo voodoo

thin your paints for similar results. I also advise multiple thin coats so you don't obscure the details of the mini.

>>51719736
You can have multiple thin coats without it looking flat, my friend. But whatever floats your boat, as long as it's intentional you don't need to act so defensive when people call it out for looking flatter than an ironingboard.

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>>51718976
Year another victory for the great glorious horned horned one!!!

>>51719868
>flatter than an ironingboard

thing is, friend (if I can borrow your word), if I was to add more highlights the time per model would be nearly doubled. Did I mention that I have 30 of these to get through? Its a cost benefit analysis thing and Ill take a little flatness (the sort that isn't noticeable from more than 1 foot away) since clean lines and smooth paints are what make 90% of the difference anyways.

either way thanks for the feedback, I am always looking to improve. Maybe next time I paint a hero or something to a high standard Ill drop a pic for you to pick apart from your armchair.

>>51719266
That's not me.

I fucking hate elves.

And yeah, the guy says he used a wash, but it's either the exact same shade as his basecoat, or he's lying.

>>51719736
>because if you use full strength seraphim sepia on pallid wych flesh it comes out very much darker than I want for a final color. It's deliberate.
A wash isn't the last step. Wash, then highlight.

>>51719974
I wouldn't say calling it flat is picking your models apart. Saying the fingertips on the repeater crossbow aren't fully coated,however is. But as I said to each their own.

>>51719997
>exact same shade as his basecoat

dude, look at the pic here >>51719611

the pot in the top right corner is about 50/50 seraphim sepia and lahmian medium. I used it to paint two layers of wash on the skin (hands and face). Its not a heavy wash because I want the skin to be pale.

fucks sake I think I may have really triggered some people tonight with this mini. The hatred is palatable.

>>51720052
:/ I think you have a pretty neat mini. I do agree that some shade is needed for the fingers, and personally I'd just water down a darker paint and use that instead of an ink (I don't really like washes unless it's on metallics).

I like it. Keep it up!

>>51720052
>post shit paint job
>ask for feedback
>get feedback
>WOWWWWW ARE YOU TRIGGERED!?!?!! LOL!!!

Seriously you are the worst poster in /aosg/. I would rather have the furfags back then see another one of your god awful blood elves and your terrible 3 shards list

can I have a casting roll of more than 12? Example are artifacts that increases your casting rolls of 2. If I roll 2 6s, is my casting roll 14?

>>51720291
Yes

Modifiers effect the roll itself, unless stated otherwise

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I have few questions regarding Sylvaneth Wyldwoods. I'd like to avoid GW's hilariously priced $88 plastic trees, but I don't know the dimensions.

How big should I make the base of one set of woods? What should I make it out of, cardboard? Styrofoam?

I'm probably going to use various aquarium plants for the actual trees themselves. Is there anything I should do to them like paint the stalk brown or something?

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/02/gw-next-weeks-prices-products-confirmed-13.html

>Slaves to Darkness Slambo: Exalted Hero: $25

WTF is a slambo supposed to be?

>>51720383
For the base, try hardwood? They're good stuff for scenery in general.

>>51720393
Hardboard I mean.

>>51720393

I wonder if I can get any thin enough. Probably if I check the hardware store, and I need to replace a 1/32 bit anyway.

>>51720400

Makes a little more sense. That would work pretty well I'd imagine. I'll give that a go.

How big are the wyldwood bases, though?

>>51720389
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Slambo

Could it be...

>>51720418
>wyldwood
This might help

https://imgur.com/a/lWvA5

>>51720431
isn't that just of old version of this though?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Exalted-Hero-of-Chaos-2

>>51720442
The name Slambo was coined by 4chan

Its hard to believe that GW would copy a fucking 4chan meme

>>51720456
That's not GW though... it's a blog and that might be the author's own easter egg...

>>51720439

Oh fuck. Perfect! Thanks

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>>51720236
>Seriously you are the worst poster in /aosg/. I would rather have the furfags back then see another one of your god awful blood elves and your terrible 3 shards list

tell me more

Fulminators or concussors? Fulminators + Heraldors can wreck face pretty easily, but concussors seem to be far more stable in their damage output?

>>51720536
Concussor is really good if you have any kind of +hit buff and if you charge at the right angle you can deny an enemy pile in. On the charge you attack with Concussors first and take minimal damage back. On the enemy turn if they don't strike against the Concussors first they probably won't get to pile in -again- which means they will likely waste attacks there first, but with a 3+ save (reroll1) and 5 wounds per model they can take quite a beating.

It's a great tactical unit, puts your opponent into a "no good choice" scenario.

Fulminators are great on the charge but they are not consistently good because they won't get much value if your opponent gets a double turn, or if you get charged first.

I usually run Concussors or Tempestors.

>>51720571
So lemme get this straight, if your concussors charge and dealt 1+ mortal wounds, and after your attack the enemy attacks back, they can't pile in, so they only have minimal number of attacks based on base contact right? This would mean it'll be highly useful vs. hordes, but of limited use vs. elites and behemoths?

>>51720606
Correct

It's actually quite good against elite units because if you charge them on the flank they won't be able to get in range because they usually have big models/bases

It's not very useful against monsters/behemoths but it still does mortal wounds which is always good.

>>51720628
Sold. Gonna build 4 concussors instead of fulminators then for my 1.5k. Bye bye heraldor.

>>51720647
Build both!

If you magnetize properly you can swap the arms on your dracoths to use 3 of the 4 kinds of weapons

The box comes with separate arms for spears, axe/hammer, and crossbow.

I can post a photo of what I did tomorrow, if you want to wait until then

>>51720665
Nah I get what you mean. Yep, gonna magnetise them, just building my army list right now before I get the models.

>>51719997
He also says he's highlighting his cauldrons but they still look flat as fuck. So wouldn't be surprised if he was 'lying'. Why someone would do that is beyond me.

>>51720236
Truth

>>51720052
Not triggered but you post stuff and when you get feedback you always throw a shitfit. However you spin it, the flesh on all your mini's looks flat and dull, and without contrast they lack expression when viewed from far away.

>>51720456
No, Slambo was what the model was named in the WD advertisement

GW is just capitalizing on a meme for profit

>>51719974
holy fuck dont come and ask for advice if you cant take criticism, fucktard

New Warhammer Quest box are asking for a lot for 4/5 mediocre heroes and no big boss to fight.

>>51721223

You're also forgetting about the campaign. Silver tower had, when combining both books, around 80 pages of stuff. Meanwhile, SOH has around 25 more pages of content all while having a GM so the behavior pages may not be needed. There's also less variety so there's the possibility that they have 30-35 pages dedicated to campaigns and doing a proper WHQ game.

>>51719618
It depends on the game you play I would say. If the other guy has no fliers, you could use them as single fast objective grabbers, and as one unit in games where you need a more solid harassing unit, works for taking out war machine crews and weak heroes.

2000 point fluffy brets:

Freeguild general on Griffon 300
Trebuchet 220
Luminark 240
16 archers 200
16 men at arms 120
16 knights 440
3 pegasus knights 200
16 men at arms 120
Paladin 80
Paladin banner bearer 80

Would this be any good? The general is good for +hit rolls for free peoples and a killy powerhouse in his own right. The knight blob will make use of the horse pally to secure charges, while the foot pally buffs the peasantry. The Luminark is pure fluff, as the army is based in Hysh, and if I'm lucky it'll get off a good spell once in a while and maybe splat some heroes or weakening crucial units with its beam.

>>51720236
shitpost elsewhere

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>>51720052
Do i have to remind you on what site you are posting right now?
You aren't posting on your facebook page where all your friends go on sucking your dick over the sloppiest of paintings to not hurt your feelings, you're on an anonymous mongolian basket weaving board where if you ask for feedback you'll recieve proper feedback.

Now the wash you used is too light, there's no depth. If you want to keep a pale skin tone apply a proper wash and then highlight with the basecoat or use a lighter basecoat, be sure to not paint the recesses.
Also the other colors seem pretty flat, i would add at least an highlight to everything on the model, a wash and 2 highlights would be much better but if you're lazy just highlight once.

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>>51719200
not that guy but heres a face I did today

How many different stormcast heroes can they possibly release.

>>51719107
>>51719200
>>51719974

Jesus christ you are a colossal faggot and that's going some by tg standards

Please just go away so we don't have to smell your neckbeard stench or look at your godawful WoW models

>>51721601
One; next week.

>>51721824
Theres 2 new units actually: vanguard hunters and gryph hounds. 1 more cavalry unit, 1 artillery unit (big crossbows) and 1 hero cavalry will follow soon after.

Does anyone have any good tips and tricks for builing a model out of bitz? I want to make a custom beastlord for my Hinterlands warband, but I have no experience in making good scrachbuilt models and I don't want to buy a metal miniature who's warscrol has 3 different layouts but only 1 model

>>51721870
The website says the Beastlord is resin. But you could always try to get your hands on a Bestigor and convert that?

>>51721634
It's quite unbelievable, I've seen this guy in a lot of generals, he always posts his pics and throws a shitfit when he receives feedback.

>>51721494
I like it, using coloured washes for Dark Eldar is pretty baller. I use Druchi Violet for mine.

>>51721423
We've given this guy feedback like 20 times. And every time he denies all allegations and throws a shitfit.

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>>51719107
>>51719247
>>51720052

Oh and to show I can dish out and take as well, please /aosg/, gimme feedback on my most recent work.

>>51722156
I'd say the highlighting on the skin looks a bit thick and i would probably not do the final highlight on the thighs. Looks good though!

>>51722156
Looks pretty solid. You may want to do some extreme highlights in his face, as it is his focal point.

>>51722181
Yeah, it's abit too stark imo, what doesnt help is that the pic is like 4 times the size of the actual model which was a bit of a shock when I saw it the first time.

>>51722197
I was personally thinking about tadding some more Rakarth flesh to some areas and then add pure white as hightlight for the nose, chin lips and brows.

The eyes on this guy are impossible though, my elves and Skaven have these enourmous eyes that are way easier to find...

>>51722205
Eyes are fine, cause hes looking down, but if you want to do something easy and pretty cool, take a look at >>51716887 s technique

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>>51720052
it doesn't really matter what ratio of wash to medium you've used when no one can tell you've done anything, other than waste time & whatever fluids used.

sorry we have constructive criticism for you, anon

Blood elf dude, I agree with people in this thread. You may have done a shade but it feels like your highlights covered it.

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>>51718213
>Went to /AoSG/ for something about Cee Lo Green
>Was not disappointed

Semi on topic post but you find chaps might be able to help me.

I want to read the end times to the AoS fluff novels but I have no idea how to approach them. There's the 8th edition lore collection but that starts with Nagash where as the timeline is listed to start with Blood of Sigmar.

Is the 8th edition collection the entire series collected or am I reading something I shouldn't be?

>>51719394
Square bases for life boi

roundcucks get fucked

>>51719394
still uses squares. Not gonna rebase my entire army.

>>51723024
WE'RE WATCHING YOU SCUM.

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here is a picture from 1 foot away. at this distance does it still look like shit?

thanks for all the "constructive feedback"
telling me that it looks like shit

>>51723235
People didn't say it looked like shit, most said the skin looked flat. It still does.

Nice to see you're still triggered, though.

>>51723235
Skin looks a bit flat, might wanna try a few washes or some more highlight to give it some contrast.

>>51723235
Even at that distance the skin is way too bright and looks oversaturated not pallid

Pale skin still casts a shadow.

That said it's passable tabletop quality

>>51722156
>gimme feedback on my most recent work

looks like shit. edge highlights way too thick, the layers looks scrubbed on and sloppy with lazy dry brush.

>>51723235
I wish you would stop posting in these threads. I know I should expect assholes on 4chan yes, but you create conflict out of the simplest shit and just ruin any discussion.

>>51723273
>That said it's passable tabletop quality

literally all I was going for, thanks

>>51723292
>I wish you would stop posting in these threads. I know I should expect assholes on 4chan yes, but you create conflict out of the simplest shit and just ruin any discussion.

or you could go fuck yourself? also an option.

>>51723235
>thanks for all the "constructive feedback"
At least do you what constructive feedback mean?
It means telling someone his work is shit sure but then you also tell him where and how he can improve and i see plenty of people telling you how you can improve
>>51721423
>>51722729
>>51722822
>>51720086
>>51720033
>>51719654
>>51719254
Now don't come and tell us that you didn't get "constructive feedback", faggot.
If you're so stubborn on not wanting to improve, to spend more time highlighting or applying a proper wash to your models don't come here asking for feedback

>>51723310
As it stands you've done the bare minimum tabletop standard and you're more than ready to play. If you want real criticism (You clearly don't) take it to a painting general

>It's sprayed
>There are base colours
>There is a wash
>A highlight of something
>Holy fuck a based model

This is better than 90% of the grey tides of shit at the average LGS, so if you're looking for a pat on the back, there you go.

>>51723289
Thanks, Anon, your disgust will only encourage me to try harder.

>>51723337
he suffers from victim complex, he can't help it, it's all the rage with kids these days.

Faggots, come back to the embrace of WHFB, leave this heresy where it belongs - in the Kirby's ass.

>>51723355
>Coming back to the game with the worst players ever
Thanks, but no.

>>51723355
>heresy

40kuck pls leave

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>>51723337
>If you're so stubborn on not wanting to improve, to spend more time highlighting or applying a proper wash to your models don't come here asking for feedback

I actually posted a pic of that mini for two reasons, one that I stated, one that I didn't. The reason I stated I wanted feedback was on the color scheme for the test mini I had painted before moving onto apply that color scheme to the rest of the other 29 if them. 30 minis is a lot and I am not about to go painting them all to some kind of extreme high standard. I get it that a lot of people will spend days, weeks even months painting one mini, pouring their hearts and souls into them to make them amazing, that is not a quality standard I was aiming for and shouldn't be held to for this project.

the other reason that I initially posted the pic of the mini was to give something back in terms of content to this community. It is good for this page when people post painting project pics. I enjoy seeing them, and I know everyone else does to. So I wanted to provide something positive for people who read this page.

tin foil hat time: people are jealous assholes who cant read and most of you don't play the game or paint and enjoy being arm chair critic assholes

that said I will keep contributing painting pics and feedback where I want when I want on subjects that come up here that interest me when I have time.

I particularly enjoy arguments about points balance, rules interpretation, list building, anything to do with elves, and making fun of stormcast for IMHO being stupid in both aesthetic and fluff terms.

>>51723418
you acting like a bitch isn't content, it's shit posting and you should go to Reddit where you can jerk off to your pity upvotes.

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>>51723418
>thinking that anyone is jealous of that shit paint job that isn't even finished

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>>51723418
I've seen you post your minis multiple times and every time you throw a hissy fit when someone gives you feedback that you are not ready for.

>pic related

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>>51723200
3 gods, one true faith

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Sorry i haven't been posting much, life has been getting in the way of hobbying
Also Dark Sphere are having a casual tourny on the 2nd of April, which i'm going too

Hope everyone else's project have been enjoying better luck than mine

>>51723514
Someone add this faggot to the AoS bingo as the free space in the middle.

Call it "Blood Elf Fag"

>>51723514
>Huge fucking faggot
>Plays Elves
All the fucking time.

>>51723545
Why the bingo is about as bad as that faggot. Both are pathetic victim-symptoms that need cuddling to feel good about their plastic army men.

>>51723514
>private office

feels the need to boast about that on a korean pottery forum. Anon, how pathetic are you?

>>51723446
>Vandus Hammerhand spots Khorgos Khul.png

>>51723514
Is this guy the fucking piss kicker? Did he find alternative methods of harvesting his precious (you)s?

>>51720536

Both, cuncussors "no pile in" rule is absolutely brutal but fulminators charge (and even more important, their shooting) is better.

Either is great, pick which one you like the look of more. Cuncussors are better in a vacuum, fulminators tend to perform better with buffs.

>>51724069
Nah he's just in full damage mode control after he had a meltdown earlier. It's the age old: 'I was just pretending to be retarded argument'

>>51723514
>Ill post another pic of my elves when I get home to trigger you all further.
>...From the security of MY mother's basement where no bad people criticize me :(

Engineering my ass. Go choke on your tendies, faggot.

>>51723418
>people are jealous assholes who cant read and most of you don't play the game or paint and enjoy being arm chair critic assholes
You genuinely believe this on some level, and this is why you are the worst poster.

Thank you for proving that elffags are truly the worst.

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>>51723446

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>>51719394
Use square bases get 3 rows of skellie spearmen in, pile in twice - why not?

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Saw this Neferata for sale any one explain this pose?

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>>51724553
I have no idea what is going on in that picture, but I can tell it's someone trying to use the leftovers from their Mortarch kit for.... something...

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Starting a death army.

>>51724373
>One faggot elf poster
>hurr elf fags amirite!?!?

You people need to fucking stop this already.

>>51724689
Healthy, heterosexual males don't play as effeminate fags with superiority complexes.

>>51724736
what do they play?

if you say dwarves it just says you are hungry for a big sweaty man cock in your throat

>>51724553
Pic is too shit to tell dawg

>>51723235
Just throw one or two washes on there and highlight the raised edges. And boom. Done. Decent table top quality. I'm not trying to shit post here.

>>51722156
Highlight metal.
Easy on the skin highlights (or throw another wash to darken them up or something)
Pretty solid paint job

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Got a little lazy with keeping the paints thin on some of the details and it shows close up. Still trying to get a nurgling skin tone I'm happy with. WIP.

>>51724853
Obviously Destruction minus Grots.

>>51724921
Highlighting the sword still needs to be done, lost my runefang silver earlier this week. Might do some more Rakarth Flesh on the skin to soften the highlights and increase the contrast with the recesses. It was a bit of a rushjob since I needed to finish it before the weekend.

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>>51724853
Destruction except Goblins, Chaos except Slaanesh, Tzeench or Skaven, Empire, Bretonnia, Halfling cavalry

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>>51723418

>>51723310
>striving for mediocrity
oh, you're the worst, anon
even unthinbed blob monstrosities have more character than mediocre, flat, basic miniatures
try a little harder, you payed good money for those!

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>>51723498
looking pretty okay, now give them a lot of diluted washes. a 1:1 mix of lahmian medium and reikland fleshshade will shade the skin well! give it a layer of a brighter color (say... screaming skull?)
then do the same with diluted druchii violet and carroburg crimson just around folds and wounds for a sore, swollen look
blightking skin is fun!

>>51725394
forgot to ask, how should I go about highlighting the brass? i''m not sure what color to use!

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First got into AOS
> hey what's a good good death army to beat my mates empire
Was told by you guys
> All you need is Nagash and 200 zombies
> Now have a shit army
Whhhhhyyyyyyy6

>>51725394

Nice. Looks like you did the process of the GW tutorial vids but with more light washes. I like them a lot better this way. What was your mix for the skin on the severed head on right blightking's waist?

>>51725063
At last, something everyone in this thread can appreciate. Riding cocks.

>>51725585
thanks!
for that head I basecoated it with rakarth flesh, gave it a wash of ethonian camoshade, highlighted with nurgling green and then gave it another diluted wash of camoshade

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>>51725535
>Actually taking /tg/'s advice

I bet you'd listen to what a Changer of Ways has to say.

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>>51725535

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thoughts on this list?

>>51726353
Khorne bloodbound are generally a meh army but it's a decent list nevertheless

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>>51725956
Just don't know why people think the zombie meme is any good.
So many idiots think if you have enough zombies, you get to 1+ hit 1+wound

>>51723235
While that faggot's gone to his "engineering office", I'd like to point out his shit-tier poorfag screen, disgusting levels of dust and grime, messy workspace, and spilled paint pots

Be as high an mighty as he likes, but I think we all know he's a below average obese sperglord, with below average skills and a below average personality :^)

>>51726353

i know that, but i love khorne so trying to make it work

>>51726682
>>51726489

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>>51718870

"Stormcast eternals are just space marines in fantasy!!" I feel like this is a dumb thing to be mad over seeing as pic related, Eldar and others have existed since 1987 lmao

>>51726731
>take racial archetype and develop a similar evolution in a different environment
>take the evolution of a racial archetype and shove it into a different environment

one is not like the other

>>51726523
They're not wrong. But that doesn't make them exactly right either.

In either case, zombies are useful if only as tax units. Or actually decent with a cart/necro.

When will Tomb Kings be repackaged and re-realeased? I mean the models have aged perfectly fine and can honestly bring in money for them with little effort if given the Bonesplitters/FEC Treatment

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Interested?

Only have the German version, but I have a bit before I have to make dinner.

>>51726682
Dude, get Chaos Knights and stick the mark of Khorne on them, shit is ridiculous

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No changes to existing stuff as far as I can tell.

Vanguard Hunters are Battleline under a Lord-Aquilor is general under Stormcast allegiance.

>>51727135
If you don't mind posting the warcscrolls of the new stuff, that'll be great

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Vanguard-Palladors.
Each model either carries a axe or a javelin and all of them parry pistols. The Prime also carries a Lunar Blade in addition to the other weapons.

Aetherstrike:
Beak and Claws to-wound rolls of a 6 cause a mortal wound instead of normal damage.

Lunar Blade:
Pick a unit within 1" of the Prime and roll a die. On a 2+ that unit suffers a mortal wound.

Ride the Aetherwinds:
Pick a direction instead of moving and roll 6d6. The unit can move up to that distance in that direction as if it could fly. Must end that move at least 3" from enemy models. Can't run or charge afterwards (but can shoot).

>>51727228
>ride the aetherwinds
Wtf.

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>Raptors with Longstrike Crossbow
Prime gets a Aetherwing.

Longstrike:
+6" range on the crossbow when not moving.

Headshot:
Longstrike Crossbow to-hit rolls of a 6 cause two mortal wounds instead of normal damage.

Warning Cry:
When an enemy unit end its charge within 1" of a unit of Raptors with Aetherwing, roll a d6 for each model in the unit. For each 6 the enemy unit suffers two mortal wounds.

>Raptors with Hurricane Crossbows
Prime hits on 3+.

Rapid Fire:
Add 3 to the Attack value of the Hurricane Crossbow if this unit didn't move.

Suppressive Fire:
If an entire unit of Raptors dedicates its fire against one enemy unit, that unit must substract 2" from all charge rolls made until your next hero phase.

>>51727191
On it. Probably won't make it to the battalions, but warscrolls and relics should be doable.

What's that giant Skaven spiderbot in the background here?
Will this become a centerpiece model in the future?

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>>51727350
Whoops. Forgot my pic.

>>51727328
Hurricane crossbow don't impress me, but Longstrike ones are awesome.

>>51727328
Hurricanum lists just got more disgusting.

But are they better than Skyfires/Jezzails?

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You already know the Vanguard Hunters.

>Aetherwings
Fly.

Flying Hunters:
May retreat and charge during the same turn.

Attentive Wardens:
At the beginning of the charge phase any friendly unit of Aetherwings within 12" of a unit of Raptors may move 2d6". They may retreat with that move, but they can't run and they can't end up further than 12" away from that unit of Raptors.

(Please note that each of those tiny birds has 2 wounds and fights as hard as a liberator.)

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>Lord-Aquilor
Carries every weapon listed.

Astral Compass:
Same as the ones from the Vanguard Hunters.

Ride the Aetherwinds:
Same as the Vanguard-Palladors.

Aetherstrike:
Same as the Vanguard Palladors.

Command Ability: Lord of the Azyrite Whirlwind
Pick a unit ov Vanguard-Hunters, Vanguard-Raptors, Vanguard-Palladors or Aetherwings within 24" of this model and remove both that unit and this model from the table. During your next movement phase you can bring them into play by the rules of Astral Compass.

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Hey Germanbro, thanks for these.

Is there a gryph-hound focused formation? Kinda disappointed to see their points haven't gone down.

>>51727428
>But are they better than Skyfires/Jezzails?

I fully intend to run the efficiency numbers on these once the points are released. Maybe they are already, I'll have to dig around the interwebs this evening.

>>51727563
See >>51727135

They are 180 points for 3

>>51727428
I have no idea about Jezzail, but they should have a damage output much bigger than Skyfires. Hitting on 2+ and -2 rend is disgusting.

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>>51727350
whatever it is it looks awesome

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>Allegiance Abilities.
Scions of the Storm you already know. Deep Strike on a 3+, basically.

Command Traits:
>Warded by Faith
Roll a d6 for each mortal wound the general suffers. On a 5+, ignore it. (always useful)

>Perfect Commander:
Pick another hero in your army. That hero can use his command ability as if it was your general. (this one will be fun)

>Wise Strategist
Dick d3 units after deployment. Those units can move 5" in any direction. (Okay, but doesn't scale well.)

>Tireless Crusader
General can reroll charges (infinitly inferior to Reckless)

>Unbowed Defender
General and all units within 6" may add +1 to all save rolls they make as long as they didn't charge this turn. Does not stack with the cover bonus. (...yeah, I had to reread that as well.)

>Champion of the Realms
Add +1 to the Attack value of one non-mount weapon. (does affect ranged weapons, for what it's worth)

>>51727563
Look above. Points are leaked.

>>51727517
Can we keep it? I promise to oil its feathers every day!

sup /AoS/ !
i'm trying to build a tomb kings list for 1000pts tournament, is this viable ? what should i add/remove ?
the idea is to distract the ennemy with many strong targets
Allegiance: Death

Leaders
Tomb King in Royal Chariot (160)

Battleline
20 x Skeleton Warriors (160)
- Ancient Blades
3 x Skeleton Chariots (140)
3 x Skeleton Chariots (140)

Units
3 x Ushabti (120)
- Ritual Blade Stave

Behemoths
Khemrian Warsphinx (280)

Total: 1000/1000

>>51727573
should I even bother posting the results of the analysis? everyone will just bitch about how dice are random and nothing is meaningful in a vacuum.

>>51727619
I'll find it useful, Anon :3

>>51727619
Math is always an useful tool to evaluate performance. People usually tell the mathfaggot to shut up when he evaluate performance only on math while ignoring everything else.

Just by looking at them I can say they have a bigger damage output than Skyfires, but Skyfires are cheaper and have a 16" mobility, while the raptors must stay still. While it's useful how much they are more damaging if someone just said they are 100% better than skyfires just because of that then yes, it will merit a "shut up faggo".

Mathhammer autists back at it again

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Any hero can pick a weapon or a armor or a trinket.

Weapons:
>End of Spite
Add +1 to the Attacks of one melee weapon. Add +2 Attacks instead if used against Chaos.

>Blade of Heroes
Pick a melee weapon. Reroll failed to thit rolls against Heroes and Monsters with that weapon.

>Hammer of Might.
Pick a melee weapon. Rolls to wound made with that weapon cause double damage.

>Fang of Dracothion
Pick a melee weapon. Reroll rolls to wound of 1s.

>Obsidian Blade
Pick a melee weapon. Improve that weapon's Rend by 1.

>Gift of the Six Smiths
Pick a melee weapon. Per turn you can reroll one single roll to hit, to wound or to determine damage with that weapon.

>>51727517
None that I have seen. And, yeah, 40pts is a lot for one gryph-hound.

>>51727135

Can you please go to the page of the Knight Azyros and the Knight Vexillor and tell us if there is some difference? They both changed points becoming cheaper

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Armors:
>Armor of Fate
6+ save-after-safe for wounds and mortal wounds.

>Silver Sigmarite Armor
Reduce to hit rolls made against the here by -1.

>Dragonscale Armor
Reroll failed saves against Damage 1 attacks.

>Mirror Shield
Ranged Attacks against the hero suffer a -2 to hit rolls.

>Spell-shield
Hero can unbind a single spell as if it was a wizard.

>Wingbane Circlet
Flying units must reroll successful attacks against this hero.

Artifacts:
>Stamina Talisman
+1Wound

>Obsidian Amulet
Ignore spells on a 4+.

>Lucky Stone (so lucky it survived the World-that-Was)
Once per game you can pick the result for a hit, wound, damage or save roll for this model.

>Seed of Rebirth
Restore a wound each hero phase on a 4+. (strictly inferior to the Phoenix Gem)

>Sigmarite Pendant
When slain, the unit that killed this hero suffers d6 mortal wounds.

>Quicksilver potion
You know this already.

>>51727725

If they got cheaper then I have a feeling their teleport functions are going to be different


Deep striking only working on a 3+ now may be game changing. Perhaps the azyros and vexillor do something to affect that

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>>51727829
Very bad news.


>>51727823
Thank you Germanbro, but someone on twitter leaked the other abilities. I'll post them, you can continue with the battalions if you want.

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>>51727851

Anons I'm thinking of making a ruin-bringer formation supported by Mounted sorcerers (mounts, manticors) and daemon princes.

Thoughts?

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>>51727875

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>>51727937
And last one. Now all we haven't should be the new battalions.

I'm really digging this new stuff, it's not OP but provides alot of options. Working g on lists now

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Standards (for heroes with the Totem keyword)
>Whirlwind Banner
All Stormcast within 12" may reroll run an charge dice of 1s.

>Bone Standard
Non-hero stormcast units within 6" of this model heal 1 damage per hero phase.

>Flag of Sigmaron
When you fail a battleshock test within 12" of this banner, roll a die. On a 2+ only a single model can flee.

Lanterns (for Lord-Castellant, Lord-Veritant and Knight-Azyros)
>Light of Absolution
Enemy units add +1 to battleshock tests. Chaos units add +d3 instead.

>Torch of Fury
Pick a Stormcast hero within 6". That hero adds +1 to the attack value of one weapon.

>Stormlight
Enemy units targetting Stormcast units within 6" must reroll to-hit rolls of 6s.

>>51727725
Knight-Vexilor now deposits units at least 9" away from the enemy. (crap, but he's at least cheaper)
Knight-Azyros lost his homing beacon without replacement. (making him even more worthless)

>>51727956
>>51727851
Ah, great. Saves me some effort.

Anny Sylvaneth points costs from new gfb?

>>51728090
The new GFB is not out.

>>51727829
Well, the Azyros does jack shit now and the Vexilor has a 9" restriction, i.e. both are now shit.

>>51727682
>Mathhammer autists back at it again
>>51727675
>mathfaggot

yeah I think I'll just keep the results to myself since people here have such low regard for such things.

>>51728198
You are so precious.

Raptors do an average of 1 mortal wound and 2,666 wounds with a -2 rend.

That means that they do:

3,666 wounds against -, 6+ or 5+ save
3,222 wounds against 4+ save
2.777 wounds against a 3+ save
2,333 wounds against a 2+ save

Basically 2 units of them can reliably take down any 5 wounds hero in a round.

I fucking hope the new GHB actually has point values for Forge World stuff included and actually gives rule sets for them as well rather than me having to get them from FW website

>>51728198
>people here have such low regard for such things

Don't mistake, we have a high regard for such things. We have a very low regard for you.

Do you know that Vulkite Bersekers will drop in point in the new GHB? That will make them even more overpowered than they are now! They could even appear on some tournament table!

>>51728286
Yeah, well, keep hoping because that will never happen.

>All this new gear and rules and 'prayers' and shit


Ugggh, way to slowly turn the game into 40K

>>51727956
Aww, you've scared Germanon away.

>>51728371
A little costomization won't kill you, anon.

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>2 Celestants using that stupid command trait
>Hurricanum
>Raptors

>>51728403
Disregard the Hurricanum, I'm an idiot for not realizing you need to keep it in the Stormcast family.

Still, 2 mortal wounds on a 4,5,6 seems good.

>>51728371
It's just a lot of thematic lists from which you can choose your artefacts.

You still have at most 3-4 of them in a game if you use lots of battalions.

>>51727922
>you can cast all prayers you know.
That's pretty potent.

Abjuration is garbage, but the rest are pretty nice. In particular Divine Light; lower activation roll, flexible application, good utility and decent range.

>>51728369
I just want some character cards for Warhammer Quest dammit

>>51723235
no one said it was shit
they just said some places were flat
you're the dick m8

>>51728403
>>51728415
Still being stupid, Furious Retribution only affects melee.

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>>51728005

The fact that it gives an army that already has more choices and options than anything else makes it OP, imo.

>MFW Giving Stormcast more stuff when some factions have been largely ignored and lack the options to really compete

>>51723235
now if thats for tabletop you're good but dont throw a fit if people just talk about places you can improve asshole

>>51728496
You're right. There goes my cunning plan.

At least you can still use the Hurricanum, I guess.

Apparently the Knight-Venator can now punch peaople himself with a Liberator hammer profile.
Not that it matters much, he should never be in melee, but it a buff at no cost.

>>51726581
i wish i can paint guys but i feel if i get into this hobby i might just fuck everything up and end up like that guy

Can anyone post the rules for the stormhosts? I've seen a preview of the Hallowed Knights.

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Finished my Keeper of Secrets

How should I call it?

>inb4 it's an original vintage KoS. They used to be minotaur with 4 arms, a single boob and leather boots with heels. Awesome

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>>51728269
And for comparison

>>51728819
That old school KoS is pretty bitching anon.
Call him Sillivsaan

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>>51728819
Ohul-bat ghul'ud; the w(h)ine of ages
old but gold; the vintage

Are Tzeentch Daemons any good? Thinking about picking up the new box. I was lucky enough to get ahold of the Tzeentch dice and the dice tray before it sold out in 3.549 seconds

>>51727228
Thanks for posting these. Feel like the javelin's the way to go, even with the axe the gryph-charger's doing most of the damage up close.

>>51728878
From which we can see that the new raptors are inferior in damage output than Kurnoths against low armored targets but higher than everything else against high armored targets with the exception of against 2+ armor compared to Skyfires with shaman support.

They aren't the most efficent unit against enything, but still their damage output guarantee a reliable killing of any 5 wounds hero with only 2 units and without support.

>>51728517
Are you a Death player by chance?

>>51727091
any interesting new fluff you've happened to come across?

>>51728775
Germanon has apparently fled and no-one else seems to have anything.

>>51728878
Not bad. Shit mobility and their range is not as grand as expected, but with Scions of the Storm they can set up in the most annoying places.
How are the hurricane bolters?

>>51728962
Screamers are mediocre in this game, great in 40k.

Flamers are great in this game, mediocre in 40k.

I think the army is fun and if you play them in both games there's no real dead weight.

>>51728878
Now what if we add a Hurricanum to the mix?

Or the reroll of 1s to hit the nerfed Aziros brings?

>>51729004
>hurricane bolters
Well, shit. Crossbows. I meant crossbows.

>>51728970
Yeah, the javelin is decent enough in melee with -1rend and 2"range and adds a lot of oomph with a surprisingly large range when hurled. And with Riding the Aetherwinds preventing charges anyway you'd want to maximise your shooting.
To be honest, I didn't expect them to have 5 wounds, either.

>>51728970
The axe seems like a really shitty choice (though it looks gorgeous) for a unit that can do a ~21" Fly move and then shoot someone a whole bunch.

>>51728988

Naw man, I'm a nurglefag.

>inb4 but but but you got all the stuff during end times!

I got lucky and my faction is still competitive without all the extra toys. I just think it's retarded that Stormcast has so many options and is still getting new shit.

It is this ones humble opinion that they should at least update the factions that really need it before they give Stormcast more shiny new stuff. Especially considering they already have good tactical flexibility.

>>51729006
Thanks. Might pick some Tzaangors up too.

If anyone with the book is still around, there was a rumour that prosecutors could become battleline under certain conditions. Was that true, or did I get my hopes up over a ruse?

>>51729215
see >>51727135
No such luck, I'm affraid. Would have been nice, too.

>>51729241
Darn. Oh well.

Have any of the battalions changed? If they're still giving the same deep strike abilities, they'll still be very useful

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>>51729026
Sure you meant that

>>51729018

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>>51729474
Ugh, wrong formatting

>>51729514
Is that counting the exploding 6's the Raptors and Skyfires get for mortal wounds?

>>51719413
whats the model from anon?

>>51727591
It would have to come with a Will Smith mini though.

>>51729474
So the hurricane Raptors are actually fairly potent? That seems like a lot of wounds unless going up against a 2+ save. And with Scions of the Storm and such the range isn't that much of an issue.

>>51729595
Yes. As you can see things that do not do mortal wounds drop much faster from an increased armor save, while things that do lots of mortal wounds drop a lot less.

>>51729666
they are murder against low armor saves. Right now I'm doing a comparison between raptors and judicators.

>>51729689

>comparing raptors and judicators

Bows may stand a chance but crossbow judicators are fucked

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>>51729887
Actually no. While it's true if you don't consider the special crossbow, against bigger units the mortal wounds of the thunderbolt swing the results a lot.

For the bows they are pretty equal. Raptors are more damaging but judicators are more point efficient.

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>>51729949
>For the bows they are pretty equal. Raptors are more damaging but judicators are more point efficient.

Disregard this. If you remove the chaos bonus the bow suck the raptors cocks.

>>51721321

Makes sense. Does it matter if my army is full wanderers? I know we get some healing, which might favor the group.

I'm building my first models ever, plaguebearers. I used liquid green stuff to smooth out the gaps from where the arms meet the torso. One of my coworkers said that paint usually fills those gaps so I'm worried I'm going to lose detail.

Does anyone else greenstuff around arms or am I going to end up with a formless blob.

>>51730071
I don't think doing that is a bad idea as long as you take care to scrape off excess. Then again, plaguebearers have a lot of freedom for greenstuff bs.

>>51727135
VEXILLOR NOW COSTS 140

Used to be 200

>>51727591
Looks to me like a Parasite Engine from Godbeasts.

>>51730133
Yeah, but >>51728022

>>51730133
Also had it's shunt nerfed to 9" minimum distance from enemies.

>>51727328
Longstrike bows seem good but Prosecutors with Javelins are a bit better I think

>>51727592
>Pick another hero in your army. That hero can use his command ability as if it was your general. (this one will be fun)
Any hero? Even non-stormcast? That's VERY interesting.

>General and all units within 6" may add +1 to all save rolls they make as long as they didn't charge this turn. Does not stack with the cover bonus. (...yeah, I had to reread that as well.)
This is insane with Lightning Strike lists. Since you can deploy straight into melee and never actually have to charge, that's just +1 save to every unit

>>51727851
Jesus

RIP Azyros I guess :/

>>51730357
Your entire army needs to be stormcast to pick that ability

>>51730357
To gain the trait you need to have Stormcast Allegiance.

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>>51727922
Bless Weapons on Retributors or Concussors with a Lord Celestant nearby

>>51727937
These are... terrible

>>51730357
- Stormcast allegiance, remember?
- Can't deploy into melee, 9" distance in general (Knight-Azyros and Knight-Vexillor being both being nerfed to hell and back.

>>51728319
>We have a very low regard for you.
feeling is mutual
>>51728319
>Do you know that Vulkite Bersekers will drop in point in the new GHB?
did you have a point?

>>51728269
>You are so precious.

well since I usually charge $200/hour for my time to grateful clients who appreciate my math skills... yeah I think I agree with that.

>>51730048
That's true. The healing usually goes on a block of eternals in cover though, for extra brickiness. But it might be worth it if your hawks are in a tight spot.

>>51728371
Customizing heroes is cool and fun

>>51730486
Eh, pennant of Sigmaron is kinda decent.

>>51730492
>- Stormcast allegiance, remember?

>- Can't deploy into melee, 9" distance in general (Knight-Azyros and Knight-Vexillor being both being nerfed to hell and back.
This is really upsetting. I bought a stormcast warrior brotherhood and now it's total garbage. Time to sell it off, I guess

>>51730532
Do you often find yourself failing battleshock tests by more than 1?

>>51723235
It never looked like shit to begin with, id happily play rather play against an army that someones put pride and effort into. Keep up the good work and later on you can always put more detail on them anyways so its cool

>Finally returning customization options into the game

Now they just need to unfuck the lore a bit and maybe this game will be worth something

>>51730494

Come down from your high horse, the math skills required here are the ones you learn in middle school. As you can see from this thread, others did your math much better than you ever did.

When are Flesh Eater Courts getting new models? And whats the best way to run Flesh Eater Courts?

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>>51730092
Here's where they are at

So, some thoughts on these new units as a SC player.
Palladors seem decent at everything, but don't really stand out much beyond their movement trick.
Hunters we discussed to death. 140 is high-ish, but not totally unreasonable. I'd have preferred 120.
Lord-Aquilor...yeah, no idea. His command ability adds mobility to units that either don't need it or that don't want it, it seems. It's probably good to have, but when compared to a gargantuan fearless bubble or a still large +1 to hit bubble it seems unimpressive. He'd make a great troubleshooter though, I suspect.
Longstrike Raptors are shorter-ranged than expected. But they seem to allow for powerful spot removal if set up in an elevated position.
Hurricane Raptors on the other hand seem like the perfect teleport unit. Drop down, pump out a shitload of damage, then hope for the best.
Aetherwings are a cheap roadblock to keep near Raptors to throw under the bus and bodyblock a charge. Not much beyond that. Fairly cool.
What are you guys' opinions so far?

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>>51730723
Cont.

>>51730652
Welcome to last summer, anon.

>>51730759
>One relic =character customization

call me when they bring back the generic wargear chest

Anyone here play Slaves to Darkness? I was thinking about starting them.

I'm running an undivided army soon, how good are daemonettes and seeker riders?

>>51730741
The Aquilor has a shitload of attacks and a very nice deployment option. Also he can teleport Raptors. I can see one of them and a unit of raptors work as troubleshooters in the enemy flanks and rear, even better with Perfect Commander so your actual general is something else.

>>51730551
On occasion. But, honestly, I'd obviously rather have Bolster Faith or Lord of the Host (thanks to Consumate Commander) up.
In addition, we are hardly blessed with worthwhile Totems, are we?

Any battalion leaks?

>>51730797
Undivided is pretty bad.

>>51730796
The nice thing about StD (pun intended) is with their marks, you have some flexibility with the Nurgle Rotbringers and Khorne Bloodbound. Meaning anything in StD that can take a mark, and does, will get the benefits of the other factions.

Example is if your StD models all take the Nurgle keyword, you can take putrid blightkings as battleline, as well as just taking some other rotbringers units because all that's important is your army has the Nurgle and Mortal keywords. Same for Khorne and mighty skullcrushers.

It's not much but just provides some rewards for having your entire army stick to a theme.

>>51730712
Presumably not in the near future.

>>51730881
Nurgle interests me... Would getting the slaves to darkness starter box and making them all nurgle be a good start? And then get some Putrid Blightknights?

>>51730504

I actually don't have any eternals, but my LGS has a box. I was probably going to turn them into rangers, though. I guess I just automatically ignore eternals because of my fantasy days.

>>51730872
what about just Tzeentch?

>>51730741
I can see consummate commander and staunch defender becoming the new default command trait. Commander is very good with a Celestant to act as a caddy or with an aquilor to use as an hero killer. And staunch defender is just very good.

The Veritant and the Relictor are going to become much more used, as the prayers are very useful and have lots of applications.

A nice trick I can see is that the trait of gryph charger that give the lord reroll to hit and wound against a hero it's on set up, so if you use his command ability you can choose another target.

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>>51730819
I'll get one, but I think I'll rely on Ride the Aetherwinds and Astral Compass for mobility. While Consumate Commander looks great, my eyes keep drifting towards that Staunch Defender...

>>51730952
Very new, very powerful.

>>51730999
part of why I was thinking undivided, was because I could see some of the new SC stuf as a way to make tzeentchy versions of other chaos monsters, both kinds of demi-gryph make me think of a tzeentch flavored juggernaut, and Griff hounds to flesh hounds, which them made me imagine other conversions like seekers with birb heads to look like evil chobobos etc.

So is AoS balanced or is there still top tier and shit tier armies

>>51730971
>>51730979
Yeah, Consumate Commander and Staunch Defender are for sure the standouts, matching or exceeding even my beloved Reckless.
Another nice combo, assuming you're willing to invest into it, is a Lord-Celestant on Stardrake with Staunch Defender, Mirror Shield and Thunderlord.
A rerollabale 2+ save and -2 to hit at range means anything not spewing mortal wounds can go eat shit, while it's own 24" range and movement means it'll never be engaged in melee.

>>51730910
I would say so. Whats so great about the blightkings kit is you get so so many extra nurgly bits with it. So buy the blightkings first, build them, then buy the StD box and build them all up, incorporating as many of the extra blightkings bits as you can to make your models look unique and nurgley. Kitbashing is a lot of fun with this hobby.

>>51731093
There still are, as with any game, but it's nowhere near the retardation of 40k. Even the not-as-good armies have a chance against the competitive ones with smart players and a well built list.

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>>51731119
An example is I made these guys out of starter set blood warriors and most of the extra blightkings bits. They count as my chaos warriors with mark of nurgle.

>>51731140
I'm not praying for age of emperor or age of guillaman, but the crunch needs a serious revamp

>>51731140
So something like Beastmen can go up against Stormcast or Ironjawz?

>>51731164
At this point im up for anything. To me the most promising hope would be at the midway point between where 40k is now and AoS. If they go full AoS, though, I really wouldnt mind, because there's a lot of brilliance in AoS' simplicity most people don't see.

>>51731068
It's a neat idea, I guess, but the game is not very fond of mixed armies like that. I mean, you can of course field them, but it will be inferior to other armies by quite a lot, especially to those that have a newer battletome (like Tzeentch does).
Undivided doesn't really work outside some edge cases, to be honest.

>>51731186
same I just hope they don't full on nuke the setting

>>51731178
Sure. If the brayherd player is smart and built a list for it. Keep in mind too, the GHB battleplans are objective based, and a lot of them favor high model counts. So there's one advantage beastmen would have over ironjaws.

The thing is, wich standardised to-hit and to-wound, and no real invulnerability (like imperial knights vs guardsmen) everything has a chance of wounding and possibly killing everything. It balances the game out somewhat.

>>51731191
I guess I'd have to find other things to use them as and just play it for visual flavor

>>51731204
I seriously doubt they will. But if they do, I'm willing to give it a shot. The new AoS setting is very jarring at first, but once you got to get really into it, you saw it comes out on its own and is actually pretty kickass.

>>51731119
blightkings in general are just a really fun set overall
each part has loads of character desu

>>51730920
See a unit set up in terrain, maybe with a mystic shield and regen spell, you have a 2+ Save unit rerolling 1's and regaining d3 models. Tough as nails to shift if you place on an objective and activate fortress of boughs.

>>51731247
Very true. It has become my all-time favorite chaos kit.

>>51731232
I can see it, I still hope for it's structure to further solidify

>>51731119
Awesome, can't wait to get into some nurgle

>>51731160
Thank you for the inspiration

>>51731068
If you want to do that just declare Tzeentch allegiance and summon in out of tzeentch models. Nothing stopping that.

>>51730999
Thinking of building Tzeentch myself. What's a strong list focusing around the daemons primarily, though I wouldn't mind picking up some non-daemons to flesh it out if need be?

>>51731474
OH, cool then

>>51731503
I was planning to put an emphasis on Tzaangors for my non daemons, maybe convert more from kroot, grab a few other bits and peaces to make individuals from them

>>51731218
This. And pretty much any game where i played a nerfed list against a strong one has at least ended closely with many casualties on both sides.

>>51730979
im really thinking about buying this just to put my chaos sorcerer on the mount

>>51731828
do eeeeeet

>>51731261

That sounds pretty annoying, yea, though mortal wounds would tear it a new asshole, yea? Guess it would have to be massed, which thankfully seems rare.

What is the most powerful/cheese/bullshit/unit/army in AoS and how do I deal with them?

>>51732238
8 nagashes

>>51732269
f..fuck

>>51732281
It's an old meme from the early days of AoS before the GHB. Old meme is old, and irrelevant.

So, are vanguard hunters good?

Why the fuck are Liberators 37.50 now? Weren't they 30 before?

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Female Freeguild soldiers are canon.

Models when?

>>51732439
Because the boxes now contain 10 Liberators instead of 5. Same with Judicators. Also, Prosectors are now boxes of six.

It's a subtle price drop.

>>51732413
To be honest they look kinda meh at this point. They're 140 for 5. While cheaper than 5 judicators, judis have better shooting.

But their real value is being able to come in on any table edge. However with the SCE battle trait of the entire army pretty much having deep strike, you would much rather have something land behind there with better shooting or melee.

So unless there's some pretty kickass battalions with them, I don't see myself clamoring for one of the kits.

>>51732453
Oh... thats fucking amazing actually!

>>51732476
GW can't just outright drop the prices of their shit for fear of upsetting investors, which is frankly understandable. So instead they are just providing better values and deals. Deals like the box games, start collectings, and reboxings including more models.

It's a compromise, and a decent one.