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Lady Malys hips don't lie edition

>previous thread
>>51345463

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>Up to date FAQs
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>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
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>The Black Library (Beware the Aharlequinsi)
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FIRST FOR ELDAR
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I hope these new characters are T3.

krak grenades popping eldar is one of life's simplest pleasures
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>Ser Carcharodon, tell me a story of your adventures!
>*Revs Chainaxe*
>*Grrrrrrs in the void*
>Fascinating!
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Horatio are pre-fall Eldar

https://youtu.be/xjIeBTaykPE

And he... She... Them... Are beautiful
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What the fuck is this pose? The designer just left it in the default 45 degree-arm pose, lazy fuck.
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MY
DICKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>Slaanesh
>literally represents the folly of liberal degeneracy
>Ynnead
>God that will destroy Slannesh
>Released right after Trumps inauguration after all this time
>Trump confirmed Ynnead
>Yrump
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>>51349818

My favorite part of that guy are all the masks sculpted into the various parts of his armor.
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>>51349817
I want her to touch my disgusting monkey dick with her delicate toes
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>>51349751
Anon from last thread that said Emmissary was Malys, please post the video and the timestamp where it "outright states" they're the same person.
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>>51349817
>doesn't hold the fan before her smiling mouth like she does in the books when fighting
Missed opportunity, tbqhfam.
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>>51349863
The half cape, for me. He's a funky model.

Would use as proxy archon/10.
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>>51349863
Have to include the harlequins somehow.
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>>51349818
MANLY AELDAR IS MANLY
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>>51349845
I know its /pol/ shitposting but still,
The Emperor's Children, while degenerate, saw anything that was ugly or boring as disgusting, imperfect, and worthless. They believed in a bizzaro ubermensch not a "everybody holds hands also white guilt" society.
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>>51349815
Makes sense since the United Empire is basically the Imperium.
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>>51349884

I too am interested in hearing this.

>>51349894
>>51349895

I've already squirreled away the money for the book and the character box (assuming the same 85 dollar cost as the Imperial one). Regardless of rules I've got plenty of use for both.

Pretty excited for all Eldar to get re-united under one banner. I've been playing Eldar/DEldar/Harlequins for quite awhile so it'll be nice to hopefully have a little more flexibility in my list construction.
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>>51349817
the head is shit but from the neck down shes qt af 2bh pham

wont buy the model tho because elfs r gay
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>>51349806

>*pulls out volkite caliver*
>*breaks codex adherence*
>*recruits traitors*
>"Yes, quite intriguing!"
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>>51349845
I swear to god Trumpfags are like the new bronies.

Not even librul, not an Amerifat so I've no horse in the race but the fact you lot adore him enough to need to make everything, no matter how unrelated, about him is vomit inducing.

I don't think we've managed more than two threads recently without someone attempting a /pol/ thread derail.
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>>51349932
>anon isn't aware of what the Slaanesh story represents
It has always been a metaphor for pants on head retarded liberalism. 40k is full of stuff like that eg "cultural exchanges". Predates /pol/ by decades.
The timing is just a funny coincidence
>or is it
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>>51349947
>Pretty excited for all Eldar to get re-united under one banner.
JUST LIKE IN AGE OF SHITMAR

HOLY FUCK

AGE OF EMPEROR CONFIRMED, SELLING EVERYTHING NOW.
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>>51349988

Post your eBay link please - I'd love to buy your models at full blown ragequit discount levels.
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>>51349979
Well not even what ever you are saying not-librul
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>>51349968
>volkites

If marines of any sort get martian death-rays before skitarii do I'm going to reeee
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>>51349933
I have a love hate with the new intro.

I still prefer the older one

https://youtu.be/Sw6pHoWgKaE

They even have space marine like stuff. The Sherydan.
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>>51349751

>thicc

Again with these nigger terms.
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>>51350018

Carcharodons use and maintain entire squads of them, apparently.
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>>51349845
>"liberal" degeneracy
I don't know, man, we're more degenerate than the "liberals" are.

Also, fuck off back to /pol/.
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>>51349979
>Getting baited this hard
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>>51350023
>entire squads

I think it was just one tactical squad had a single volkite as their special weapon guy.
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>>51350032
>I don't know, man, we're more degenerate than the "liberals" are.
you are more degenerate than literal cannibalistic pedophiles? i suggest suicide.
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>>51349968
WHATS THAT?! I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF HUNTING DOWN VILE TRAITERS, XENOS, AND DAEMONS IN THE DARKNESS THAT LIES BEYOND THE VOIDFATHER'S LIGHT
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>>51350020
Gonna have to disagree, I think the new one is brilliant, with the whole Starship Trooper's propaganda finally fading to show a industrial cyberpunk city.
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>>51349932
Wtf does Emperor Children got to do with Slaanesh's birth by the Eldar?
Also Emps children are absolutely degenerate they raped an entire theatre of people once. In the messiest way possible.
Likewise fulgrim was autistic liberal retard level of body fluids painting.
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>>51349933
>imperial general visits tau space.png
that's the smile of a man who really loves his job
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>>51350037

>>reddit spacing
Might want to check out half the thread.
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>>51350023
01110010 01100101 01100101
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>>51350023
>one honor guard veteran has a volkite gun
>THEY ALL FUCKING HAVE VOLKITE WEAPONS GUYYYYZ
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>>51350073
/tg/ has too many dumb redditors, this shouldve been obvious to you.
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>>51349751
So, fun fact: It is theoretically possible to make a Chaos Lord completely immune to anything S4 or lower if you run him in a Rapture Battalion and give him Blissgiver.

All you have to do is the following:

>Roll a D3 for amount of drug rolls for Blissgiver - 3
>Roll a 4 each time - +1 Toughness (x3)
>Roll for army-wide drugs - +1 Toughness

Congrats, you now have a T8 Chaos Lord.

I know this because I had it happen today when playing against my buddies Guard army.

Do you know how glorious it is to have a Lightning Claw/Power Fist Chaos Lord with a Jump Pack completely and totally ignore 40 lasgun shots, then tank a Demolisher Cannon as if it were only a flesh wound, before running four units off the board because they can't actually hurt him? Because I do, and it is wonderful.
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>wh40klib.ru is back up

yay
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>>51350073
>>51350093
Am I the only one that can spot redditors irl by their low-t cuck expressions?
It is like redditors are evolving into a sub species of cuck.
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>>51350037
>reddit spacing

Hello newfag pretending to be oldfag
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>>51350053
Have you been to /d/? Do you remember the /wst/? It had stories about cannibalistic pedophilia, and that was considered NORMAL. You, like most lost /pol/locks have no idea what you are talking about.
So, stfu and lurk moar, newfag.
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>>51350037
>reddit spacing
Is this some kind of meta-meme your fond of? By your own post, you apparently haven't been here that long, but the 4chins has been doing any manner of spacing as posters wish since it began. For example, this classic from 2006.

Or in 2008, when people would decry anyone that didn't space their posts because of the eyesore.
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>>51350107
>It is theoretically possible to make a Chaos Lord completely immune to anything S4 or lower

DID SOMEBODY SAY ASSAULT 3 CANCER GUNS?!
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>>51350107
...The hell are you snorting brother.
Bliss Giver is a daemon weapon that causes the victim to pass out from utter euphoria if they fail a leadership test. Great way to be a blender lord, But does Jack shit for combat drugs.
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>>51350153
>being a cannibalistic pedo
unironically hope you get killed 2bh
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>2017
>still libtards on /tg/
I come back for this. Though you guys would have mass suicided after Trumps ascendance.
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>>51350181
>being this much of a newfag
Welcome to Hell, kiddo.
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>>51350181
Frankly cannibalistic pedos shit up threads less than /pol/lacks.
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>>51350201
do you feel in charge?
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>>51350206
But anon what if you were /pol/ and you just didn't know it?
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>>51350107
The stars really need to align for that. You could get similar results with a lord on a bike and getting toughness twice though. T 7 makes you immune to lasguns and nigh immune to bolters, and rolling on two 4s on the table is less of a tall order.
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>>51350206

When you grow up and start paying taxes, you will learn the truth.
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>>51349968
They dont give a shit about codex adherence. The have orders from the Emperor himself to comback and take Red Tithes as the need to. They appear to respect it as a source of good tactics, but thats not going to stop them from slaving their way across the galaxy for recruits and serfs before returning to the V O I D.

>>51350047
>>51350092
>>51350023
It was one dude. When youre unconscious most of the time crossing the V O I D then its pretty easy to maintain a single caliver when its barely seen combat.

Dont forget the Third Companys Dreads are actual Horus Heresy Era marines within them. And Share Bail is only two generations removed from the 30k era marines himself.

The are old and have old shit because to them, they arent actually that old. Because theyre in storage most of the time.
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Woulds Terminators, Chaos Terminators and Nobz improve any if they were given access to Jump Packs or Rokkit Packs respectively?
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>>51350195
why were you coming here then.
isn't cripplechan still up? and /leftypol/ hasn't crapped all over it has it?
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>>51350260
Give all the models you mentioned an extra wound. Problem solved.
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>>51350056
>mfw that moment when the Night Lord sorcerer who has literal shadow daemons for his familiar experiences REAL darkness from the Carcharodon Librarian's void

You merely adopted the darkness, Night Lords.
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>>51350260
nobz need to be s5 base... boyz need to be s4 base. terminator armor/mega armor should give +1 wound in addition to its other shit.
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>>51350250
I really like the cryochamber bits of the book
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>>51350162
Ave Omnissiah
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>>51350260
terminators/MANz would be pretty neat if they could get once-a-game teleport packs like that one dawn of war upgrade

I mean, if dreadknights and grey knights can get that shit, why not the big boys too.
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>>51350298

>>51347569
Someone posted that a few days ago and I found it hilarious. Their ships are literally just floating refrigerators.
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>>51350218
>do you feel in charge?
Dafuq does that even mean? Is this your first time on 4chan or something?
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>>51350167
>>51350107

Forgive me, brother, I have been hitting too much space cocaine.

It's Intoxicating Elixer I'm referring too. I ran Blissgiver on a Sorcerer in the same army.
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>>51350162
OTHER IMPERIAL FORCES
ARE YOU EVEN TRYING
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should i run less boyz?
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So when do we get these fuck'n bolt spears?
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Srs question time when is GW going to release start collectors for the new armies?
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>>51350236
>The stars really need to align for that.

And they did. It was hilarious. But I doubt it will ever happen again.

That said, it's just fun that it can happen. Even then, you can get ridiculously stat-boosted Lords in a Slaanesh force, what with Warlord traits and Combat Drugs without Intoxicating Elixer (which is the actual relic I was referring to, not Blissgiver).
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>>51350260
I think the terminators could use extra toughness. Currently they're less durable than bikes overall.

Nobz just need their bikes to not be insanely expensive.
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>>51350371
You already have them.
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>>51350340
>not recognizing bane memes
>calling others newfags

N E W L A D
E
W


L
A
D
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>>51350398
Where at?
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>>51350429
Custodes and the Deathwatch Watch Master.
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Adepta Sororitas + Henchmen Warband + Culexus (1848/1850pt.)

@Primary Detachment [ 1 ]

Adepta Sororitas (Combined arms detachment)

@HQ [ 2 ]

Canoness Veridyan (85pt.)

Canoness (95pt.)Combi-flamer; Rosarius; The Book of St. Lucius;

@Troops [ 3 ]

6x - Battle Sister Squad (97pt.)
Flamer
Heavy Flamer
Combi Flamer


6x - Battle Sister Squad (97pt.)
Flamer
Heavy Flamer
Combi Flamer


5x - Battle Sister Squad (85pt.)
Flamer
Heavy Flamer
Combi Flamer

@Fast attack [ 2 ]

10x - Seraphim Squad (195pt.)
1x - Seraphim Superior (40pt.)Power sword
2X - Hand Flamers

6x - Dominion Squad (193pt.)
Combi-melta
4x meltagun
Immolator (65pt.) TL multi-melta; Storm bolter;

@Heavy support [ 3 ]

6x - Retributor Squad (122pt.)
4x Heavy Bolter
1x Simulacrum Imperialis


Exorcist (130pt.)
Exorcist (130pt.)

@Secondary Detachment [ 2 ]

Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband

Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor (73pt.) Psyk-out grenades; Power armour; Bolt pistol; Force weapon; Psyker; Mastery level 1; The Liber Heresius;
servo-skull x3
3x - Acolyte (9pt.); Power armour; Laspistol; Chainsword;
Ministorum Priest (50pt.) The Mace of Valaan;
Daemonhost (10pt.)
4x - Death Cult Assasins (60pt.)
Land Raider (250pt.)


Officio Assasinorum Detachment

@Elites [ 1 ]

Culexus Assasin (140pt.)

Statistics:
* Models: 56
* Units: 18
* Warp charges: 1

Can I win something with this list, /tg/?
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>>51350412
>Current year
>Posting bane memes
Clearly from reddit.
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>>51350364
>ordo xenos inquisitor with rad grenades and a bodyguard of space marine honour guard
instant death on crisis suits is p.sweet
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>>51349961

Stick a wych head with hair in it's place. Done.
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>>51350011

Nah. I'm just burning mine. Not because of AoE, but because of them being in the same Codex as CWE.
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>>51350468
>crisis suits
people run tiny riptides?
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>>51350451
> current year
> two newfags in an argument about pretending to be beardy as fuck
/tg/ will never change
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>>51350491

Why do you care? Just keep playing the bits you like. Or are you concerned what other people think about your army choice and you're afraid people will think you play a cheesy army?
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>>51350495
Sometimes. Riptides are more common, though.

At least they can pop the 4-wound commanders.
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>>51350412
/tv/ is the worst board on 4chan, and you are the reason why.
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>>51350468
>crisis suits

Is that a type of Riptide?
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>>51350438

Are those sister squads on foot?
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>>51350495
>>51350518
>>51350529
Are we actually at the point where Crisiswing is no longer considered cheese?
Maybe I can finally start that Tau army after all.
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>>51350364

>1h power axe

My dominus will take 2 please
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>>51350540
You're just now realizing that Tau hate is a meme and no one here actually knows what they're talking about or why the faction is "cancerous"?
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>>51349751
Feeling good today. I ordered some Sentinel bits off of ebay, and I just finished turning all of my old Scout Sentinels into Armored Sentinels as well as magnetizing all 3 of them and 3 Autocannons/Multi-Lasers/Lascannons. I don't have pics of them at the moment, but I'm pretty happy with the outcome. I really love Armored Sentinels so I'm thinking I'll get 3 new ones so I can magnetize them as well and hopefully make an Emperor's Talon formation.

What kinds of things have you guys done this weekend hobby wise?
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>>51350519
>>51350451
>implying I'm even the one who posted it

Your accuracy at identifying things is on point, as usual, Mr. Doesn't Know Bane Memes and Doesn't Know Which Anonymous Poster Is Which.
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>>51350529
Yeah I think it's a forgeworld model
>>51350540
Basically every non-formation tau unit is pretty balanced unless you are just spamming MCs
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>>51350556
You think hating cuntfaced oriental space commies is a meme?
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>>51350556
>Tau hate is a meme
it's rooted in reality, unfortunately

>>51350540
Pretty much, man. Flat T4 3+ ain't so bad after dealing with monstrous creature spam/psyker+jetbike spam.
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>>51350556

Oh look it's another Taufag trying to pretend like Tau cancer is just a meme. I wonder what time the next person who comes back from the FLGS will be posting "I thought you guys were just memeing about Taufags but then I played one just now and you were right."
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>>51350438
> Veridyan goes with the Retributor Heavy Bolter Squad for Rending Precision Shot
> She can soak wounds for her sisters and then leave for solo close combat swag
> Seraphims in deep strike
> Servo skulls to prevent Infiltrators too close from my Exorcist/Retributors
> Daemonhost + Mace Of Vaalan combo
> Inquisition Warband armed for close combat in a Land Raider
What could possibly go wrong?
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>>51350566
Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>51350531
Yes they are
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>>51350556
>Overpowered, underpriced MCs that should be walkers
>A GC that should be a superheavy walker
>Higher average power level than most codexes (lol Vespids are "bad")
>Highest percentage of WAACfags and obnoxious faggots like TIDF and Shas'O in their playerbase of all factions
>every piece of modern fluff is even worse plot armor and wank than space marine shit
>full of false flaggers and shitposters and trolls like yourself shitting up the board
>doesn't even fit in the setting to begin with, let alone in their current incarnation

That enough reasons for you, shitlord?
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>>51350573
>>51350575
>>51350580
>It's not a meme guys, honest!
>I knew about Crisis cheese when I posted that, i-it was only a joke!
>It's pretty obvious Tau is cancerous. Why? R-Riptides are overpowered, of course!
Try again

>>51350601
>tournament results contradict your entire post
Riptide is an above-average unit, but it's not enough to carry your faction
Come back when you have objective data backing up your claim
So far it's just biased anecdotal memes
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>>51350588

Dafuq does that even mean? Is this your first time on 4chan or something?

Haha, I just realized you actually said "Dafuq" holy shit, what an autistic newfaggot.

inb4 "that's not me". That just makes you worse for defending faggots like him all because you hate baneposters.
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>>51350585
>>51350438
free up 15 points somewhere, swap the hereticus inquisitor for xenos

rad grenades help DCA immensely, and you can still take the Liber Heresius
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>>51350601
Honestly the Tau players at my shop are pretty cool as long as they are older than about 22.

I'm actually jealous of this one dudes farsight enclave which is just glossy black suits with red detailing.
It sounds easy as fuck to do compared to my 'nids but it looks so damn good
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>>51350566
No, you idiot. I said you, the person who puts his post in all caps like a garrish attentionwhore, priding in /tv/'s memes, on a thread about 40k minis. I said you are the problem, and I continue to stand by that as your childishness continues to permeate a thread where it doesn't belong.
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>>51350614
>tournament results contradict your entire post

Tau are literally the best army in the ITC with the most top results, below Eldar, Space Marines, and Daemons.

Get the fuck out of here with your "Tau don't actually do well in tournaments" meme you faggot. Go post your fucking objective data proving Tau aren't doing well in tournaments, should be an easy to back up claim if you're citing it so readily and confidently.
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>>51350615
>quotes without greentexting
Not him, or any of the other autists you may be arguing with, but holy shit you cannot get newer than this.
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>>51350614
>y-y-y-y-y-y-you're just biased and making things up
okay
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New to this, how is it?
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>>51350601
>I use Gue'vesa
>I run kroot blobs with hounds
>Railsides
>Vespids were some of my first models in the codex

Repeat after me, 'i got into this for the auxiliaries..'
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>>51350614

Below is the current breakdown of what armies are winning events. The list combines all the top events for the year so far, taking only the top three winners from Major or GT events.

34 Eldar
19 Daemon
12 Space Marine
10 Tau Empire
8 Chaos Space Marines & Renegades
7 Dark Angels
6 Ad-Mech
4 Imperial Knight
3 Space Wolves
3 Genestealer Cults
2 Tyranid
2 Dark Eldar
2 Astra Militarum
2 Necrons
1 Harlequin
1 Grey Knight
1 Blood Angel
1 Ork

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2016/12/26/top-itc-tournament-lists-november-2016/

Your turn, anecdote fuckboy.
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>>51350601
>we wanted to add a faction that highlighted how grim dark 40k was
So why aren't the tau extinct yet.
True story I bought a Tau army instantly regreted and sold the thing for profit.
Profit, thats a word Tau players are not familiar with.
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>>51350629
>Tau are literally the best army in the ITC with the most top results
>below Eldar, Space Marines, and Daemons.

>Nids are literally the best army in the ITC with the most top results
>below every other faction

???
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>>51350643
you're put his jet packs on the wrong way
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Does anyone happen to know any Space Marine chapters whose armor design is Howling Griffons quadrants, but in black and white?
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>>51350601

>>Overpowered, underpriced MCs that should be walkers

I could accept that.

IF all Battlesuits were made Walkers.

This includes Stealth Suits, Crisis Suits and Broadsides, with AV 10, 12 and 12 all around for each respectively.
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>>51350641
>implying it was a quote and not using his same line against him as a post
>implying I didn't quote in a previous post

Maybe you shouldn't post at all if you're not going to even pay attention. How innately stupid do you have to be to think someone doesn't know how to greentext when people literally did it one post above?
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Is Commorragh gonna get destroyed with the progressing storyline?
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>>51350438
6 girl squad on foot, with Flamers
Are you stupid or something?

You have a "Death Star" for melee and the inquisitor does not have rad grenades? Also Acolyte in power armour... Not taking crusaders.

Why the fuck do you have so many priest?

This has to be a troll list no one makes a list so bad and expects to win.
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>>51350451
baneposting will never die
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>>51350580
Oh look its another cancerous Tau hater spreading lies. Wow so original. Much shit post.
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>>51350670
>Suits that are basically power armor
>compared to suits that are the size and bulk of dreadnoughts

Nah you're a cunt
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>>51350649

Sit the fuck down faggot. >>51350645
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>>51350645
I'm a different dude but I know this argument.
He's going to ask for how many players of each army entered relative to their positions.

This argument has been done to death, sorry but no one wins and everyone gets buttmad
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>>51350645
>Tau is overpowered!
>They have an entire 8% meta share!
>That's TOO MUCH
>Let's just ignore the 28%, 16%, and 10%
>Those are just fine! No cancer! Unlike Tau's 10 whole wins.
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]>>51350451
>using current year in the current year
nigga that's a 2 year old meme now.
useful but it's old

>not liking bane posting
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>>51350615
>Can't into greentext
>Has some sort of vendetta against my use of "dafuq"
>Thinks baneposting is the "hip new meme"

The other anon was right when he said you were embarrassing yourself. You should really consider an heroing.
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>>51350670
>AV12 Crisis Suit

Lol try AV8 which is what they currently are.
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Dat booty, HNNG
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>>51350671

>>51350615
>Dafuq does that even mean? Is this your first time on 4chan or something?
is literally quoting
>>51350340
>Dafuq does that even mean? Is this your first time on 4chan or something?

Stay new friend, I'm going to stop before you eat too many (You)s and bloat.
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>>51350712
> Penetrated by lasguns
I'm okay with this
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So, does anyone else look at the Ad Mech as the Imperium's megacorp?
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>>51350711
>dafuq
>anhero
>can't identify baneposts
>still responding

Holy shit neck yourself it'll save you the butthurt you fucking loser
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>>51350718
Horatio
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Crosspost from >>51350584 ; I want to get into 40k and know a guy who's selling off his old crap. Is this worth it?
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>>51350718
You realise its a style of dress with a metal frame underneath right?
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>>51350643
weeabo/10
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>>51350720
>>implying it was a quote and not using his same line against him as a post
>>implying it was a quote and not using his same line against him as a post
>>implying it was a quote and not using his same line against him as a post

Holy shit it's hilarious how stupid you are. Not only did you fuck up the first time, after you were explicitly told how you fucked up, you still fail to comprehend it. Like, it's literally right in front of your retard face and you can't see it.
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>>51350688
>>51350712

Well forgive me if I believe anything below AV 10 shouldn't be.
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>>51350740
How much does he want for it?
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>>51350718
I wonder if you can build her without the dress
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>>51350718
No, dat bustle
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>>51350740
Nah. GW is getting better with prices but they are still quite retarded. If you want to get into it just get a starter box. Don't fall into the gota buy more gw shit
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>>51350740
For $200 that's a fucking steal. The Riptide, Hammerhead, and Skyray alone are over $200, and it looks like he has a fuckload of Crisis Suits already.

Hell, if you're not taking that, send me the details and I'll buy it.
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>>51350740
the riptides worth like 100 bucks, rest of it is trash. id give him 50 bucks for the lot since id have to zipstrip the riptide and throw the rest out 2bh
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Gee, I wonder why people hate Tau players.
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>>51350697
>tau is in the top 4 meta
>lets ignore that, it's not to biggest
look anon, I can dig it when someone likes their faction a lot.
My store owner has a loving army he has compiled for longer then i've played the game, every model is filled with detail and for the most part painted lovingly.
I know folks who has converted their weeb shit into things they love.
And as much as i can understand if you are a tau fag like this, but my good will dies the moment a fuck walks in with 2 riptides just like it would with eldar wraithspam.
The dedicated greytider are some of the least enjoyable opponents around
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>>51350748
M8, either grow up fast or leave this thread. This isn't the place for your shit.

>>51350720
Shut the fuck up and stop replying.
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>>51350670
Stealth suits can stay as Infantry. 3+ armor doesn't matter on them anyway, and they're toughness 3. Making them walkers changes nothing.

Heck, the XV-15 models are still legal, and those are literally just Fire Warriors with a bit of extra armor and a jetpack.

Also, would need to be 10 and 11 respectively. Crisis suits still need to be vulnerable to bolters, and Broadsides don't need to be better dreadnoughts.
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>>51350782
>rest is trash
>nearly all the tau army choices
Lol
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>>51350761
Doubt it. You can see the bustle and corset are one piece. The dress itself is probably acting as the primary support on the left side, depending on how they cut it up for the sprue.
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>>51350747
Distractingly so, or just because its tau?
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>>51350516

Mostly the latter. Eldar are turbo cheese that only get worse with the better parts of Dark Eldar. It's already hard posting a Deldar list without someone saying "Just ally CWE" or "Just play counts as Corsairs!" Just imagine what it will be like with a combined Codex.
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>>51350740
Just please believe >>51350780 and not the rest of these autists. I'm not even going to quote them as (you)s will only encourage them.
Britbong so I can't eyeball the collection and tell me how much it's worth in Ameribucks but even I can tell you $200 is very, very reasonable.
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>>51350364
Well they're trying, but you refuse to share.
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>>51350787
>implying anything more than >>51350782 needs to be pointed out
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>>51350670
>with AV 10, 12 and 12 all around for each respectively.

That sounds stupid as fuck.

>lol look at my AV12 army, did you bring enough anti-tank? No? GG fag.
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>>51350748
>>51350734
>>51350683
>>51350615
>>51350566
>>51350412
>>51350244
>>51350235
>>51350218
>>51350195
>>51350181
>>51350053
>>51350037
Sweet Sanguinius, look at all the newfags ITT. Do any of you even play 40k? Lurk moar or leave.
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>>51350718
>that fucking face
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>>51350775
Start Collecting for Tau is a joke. No one unironically uses Fire Warriors or Ethereals unless they need the cheap filler in a CAD, and FE makes sure that rarely happens.
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>>51350803
The idea of that sort of spam list like that applies to a lot of armies though. Would it be any better if it's a Flyrant Spam list? Or Magnus backed up by a horde of Deathguard Bikers?

Why is the problem with Tau players, and not with WAAC players?
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>>51350787
Tau basically attracted a huge base of retarded weebs. One of GWs dumber ideas was to give their setting literal cancer.
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>>51349751
>Lady Malys hips don't lie edition
>>51349817
>>51349886
Guys its not lady Malys, never was. The cat should have given it away
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>>51350813

Oh - sorry don't have a ton of sympathy for that. I've played CWE for years (since early 3rd), I've learned to stop caring about other people's opinions regarding which army I play. It doesn't matter what I put on the table - I'm an asshole, etc., etc. As long as I like my army I don't care what other people think.
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>>51350697
Yep this is way back before they got Stormsurges (which didn't help them win the meta). Currently the top dogs are Space Marine super friends deathstars and Eldar. Tau have only gained rank in the end of the 2016 ITC season when Tau rocked some ITC tournaments with no limits where everyone and thier mom brought Ta'unars. And the top two lists were Ta'unar based, but this was not a regular ITC game. Still the Tau wrecked these games so hard its making it look like their otherwise merely above average results are better than they are.

Without the Ta'unar the Tau are a solid B++ army that can with some extreme skill and a little bit of luck crack the top 50 consistently but has trouble getting into the top 15 let alone winning tournaments. The only major wins from 2016 recently were the two non regular ITC tournaments with Ta'unar. So all the Tau haters can go fuck themselves and their mediocre skill. If you don't like the Tau for personal reasons like the aesthetics or lore I don't have a problem with ya. It's the misinformation and bullshit lies 40k/tg cloaks itself in that bothers me.


https://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/frontline-gamings-independent-tournament-circuit/itc-2015-rankings/
http://bloodofkittens.com/
http://variancehammer.com/2016/06/08/whats-wrong-with-the-tau/
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>>51350826
Nobody on /tg/ actually plays 40k. Are you new?
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>>51350826
is it /b/tard season or something
why are so many faggots whinging about NEW.
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>>51350643
holy shit the tau meme is real
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>>51350835
Its really good value though. The crisis suits alone are the same about price as the whole starter in my region.
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>>51350826
Why the fuck are you encouraging them by giving them attention? Are you that desperate to join in and further reduce the quality of this thread?
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>>51350803
>tau is in the top 4 meta
>implying
eldar, SM, warconvo, crons. gg ez.
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>>51350825
Congrats, you've discovered the reason Tau battlesuits weren't walkers originally. AV didn't go below 10, and they obviously didn't want such a staple unit to be immune to lasguns and nigh indestructable to bolters.

This only ever became a problem with the Riptide's introduction.
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>>51350855
Maybe if you didn't put scatterbikes, warp spider aspect shrine, and wraith knight on the table every game people wouldn't flame you :^)
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>>51350835
>S5 infantry guns that can overwatch at full BS and en mass is crap

Damn, thats crap? What kind of retarded WAAC meta do you play in?.
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>>51350617
Why not, if I actually face xenos
I want my list to remain fluffy

>>51350678
What is wrong with flamers?
That's how SoB are supposed to deal with heretics.
And desu I don't have any vehicles for them
What do you suggest?
And I don't get your comment on the number of priests, since there is only one...
Also 3 acolytes are tax in a Henchmen Warband and extras Crusaders would not fit in the Landraider
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>>51350886
Crons aren't that good. Try demons instead.
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>>51350865
I play 40k. It's pretty fun most of the time.
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>>51350818
>>51350780
Noted, thanks. Grabbing as soon as I'm able to.
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>>51350901
Me too, actually. What army do you play my man?
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>>51350837
never seen any of those.
EVER.
the nid players in my group gave up long ago
>Why is the problem with Tau players, and not with WAAC players?
i admit it's mostly anti WAAC but tau does have it's own shit. Oddly enough even though i respect most of the folks who put love into their army, lost of them are some of the most stand offish and offend-able guys around.
Maybe it's the weeb attraction, maybe it's limited selection but there is a lot of WAACs and also it's unique issue with the fan base.
Mind you i play admech, take of that what you will
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>>51350645
>no Khorne Daemonkin
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>>51350889

To be fair, do bolters even damage anything above a Stealth Suit in the lore anymore?

I don't think I've heard about that in any of the recent books, unless I've overlooked it.
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>>51350911
Space Marines. Tactical terminators, Venerable Dreadnoughts and a Land Raider Phobos get work done when they want to.
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>>51350890

I don't - most of the time. I do own the models but I mostly play Alatioc, lots of lovingly built plastic rangers, vypers, and war walkers. I think I probably own 10k+ points in Eldar including all the cheese but my Alatioc is my favorite set up.
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>>51350898
both are better than tau 2bh. the only reason tau have a reputation for being OP is because they are easy to use and 90% of the people who play 40k are strategically braindead so they build shitty lists and then wonder why riptides are raping them. this leads to tau stomping local metas because most local metas consist of idiots playing poorly designed lists
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>>51350926
I think they got rolled into chaos
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>>51350809
Not distractingly so, just the pose looks quite anime-ish to me.

I like it, it's different and gives a good sense of movement, but don't tell /tg/ I said so
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>>51350931
I think there have been cases of it. Even if not, I think it works out better to have them be AV 10, and have Broadsides be the ones who are bolter immune.
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>>51350667
The Sons of Malice, they specialize in hunting down and attacking Chaos Space Marines, and Daemons if they get the chance. They're pretty cool dudes.

They're Chaos Space Marines though.
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>>51350886
They're not on the level in the list though, try again.
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>>51350939

Where can i find Plastic Ranger?
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>>51350856
That's a partial truth. While Tau do struggle to win GTs, they are fucking amazing at smashing local semi-comp and casual metas. These are the types of settings most players on /tg/ play in. With their massive number of shots, mobility, and grotesque formations, Tau are super un-fun to play in any sort of mediocre setting.

t. Former Tau player
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Which Eldar craftworld has the best paintjob?
>wildcard: including classic schemes
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>>51350855

I wish I could care less about what other people think, but my life is a hollow shell who's only enjoyment comes from seeing someone else's.

Beyond that, if the Eldars are merged, there is no point in playing the a dark half anymore because the craftworld part is better in every way. Look at Black Templars.
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>>51350960
its because nobody wants to collect crons or admech because the models are shit. thats why chaos is so high on the list, since its over saturated.
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>>51350966

I built mine out of a combo of:

-Wood Elf Glade Guard
-Dark Eldar Splinter Rifles
-Guardians

I built them when I worked for GW and had a 50% discount.
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>>51350939
>implying Alaitoc wasn't grade A hard cheddar three editions back

>plastic rangers
Oh, so you don't actually play Alaitoc. Alright then.
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>>51350667
the one you name yourself
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>>51350984
Yme-Loc
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>>51350995
the disruption table was so fucking dumb
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>working on some orks I bought as a (intended to be short) side project
>it is making me want to collect more orks

>meanwhile my half-finished land raider, still shrink wrapped vindicator, and chaplain, are just sitting there judging me silently
>I have even more marines on the way... I ordered the things last year I really would have hoped GW would have shipped them by now, but whatever

>also my age of sigmar army is about half finished too

>and I need to strip and repaint all of my chaos marines

help me
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Standard Marines. Besides White Scars, what chapter tactics are useful for a mostly-bike army? I don't want to hit maximum cheese, but I'm okay with about 80%.
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>>51350941
> riptides are raping them. this leads to tau stomping local metas because most local metas consist of idiots playing poorly designed lists
some folks don't really haver options to deal with them in their armies.
I was never offended by their power, frankly all they do is chip away at infantry or in one case stun-lock some of my light vehicles but there isn't much you can do against a fella that can JSJ, and that tough.
+2sv, fnp, high T. can hug cover forever, is hard to dislodge.
I just play arround it
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>>51350993
This is one of the best things i've read on /tg/
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>>51350990
All of the Chaos lists are Lost and the Damned, though.

Also

>Admech
>Shit

The fuck are you on
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>>51350995

100% Alatioc was the cheese in 3rd with the disruption tables. No doubt about it, especially when paired with jump shoot vypers - not denying it all. I built the army because I was super tournament oriented at that time, I've just stuck with it through the editions even as my own hobby focus has changed. I also still own a ton of metal rangers but I really wanted to move to more plastic models so I converted up units over time.
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>>51351006
ultramarines?

two turns of re-rolling 1's to hit with your special weapons is pretty handy
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>>51351007
>some folks don't really haver options to deal with them in their armies.
which army? most codexes can actually beat a generic riptide-spam tau tournament style list if they build themselves right.
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>>51350936
Sounds pretty cool. I myself am working on my Guardsmen right now. I was playing mech the past few editions but the new Castellans has really inspired me to give blobs a second chance.
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>>51351006
Well, it's hard to go wrong with Ultras. Salamanders might be decent as well, as I think bikes can still take flamers.

As far as Forgeworld goes, the Astral Claws might be a fitting option.
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>>51350876
It's a $10 difference between a team of 3 Crisis + 6 Drones and Start Collecting.
So while $10 for a whole Fire Warrior team, drones + turret, and an Ethereal is definitely a good value, the issue is that they're not very good and you're probably going to replace them ASAP unless you're into fluff armies or playing a casual.

>>51350894
They can't overwatch at full BS, unless I'm forgetting something.

Anyways, the issue with Fire Warriors is that they're glass cannons that can't really do anything outside of shred troops at 30". The moment they're fired on or, god forbid, assaulted, you can just pick your models off the board by the handful. And while this applies to most other armies, other armies have a transport that isn't expensive trash like the Devilfish.

But really, it's more that they're completely outclassed by other troop choices. Breachers are better at close range and with Devilfish, Crisis Suits are literally troop choices, and most of the Tau might comes from their non-Troop units.
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>>51350996

>this
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>>51351008

I must admit - I am curious, why?
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>>51350969
I find any sort of super comp list unfun to play against in an mediocre meta. Getting turn one charged and losing to indestructible Space Marines (of various flavors) 30+ fucking times isn't fun either. Having a million scatter bikes kill you isn't either. Chaos Deamon summoning lists are bullshit too and you see almost as much of those as Tau "cheese" which is nowhere near as bad.

Yet despite all three infesting mediocre player bases more than Tau and being even harder to win against you see people shit and hate on Tau more.
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>>51351032
I used to have a big footslogging guard army, they were a ton of fun. Nowadays people just don't know how to deal with platoon guard.
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Been away from the game for a while, getting back in with CultMech. Am I missing something or is there literally no reason to take breachers over destroyers?

Destroyers can fling 18 grav shots from a minimum squad, plus phosphor or a flamer. Breachers can plink out some decent haywire or 3 multi-wound shots, neither of which seems better than a boatload of grav.

I guess the breachers have a melee option, but that doesn't really make up the difference to me. Thoughts?
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So, who broke biel-tan?
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>>51351024
You know, after reading >>51350993 I have to take back what I said. You seem like a pretty cool dude anon, keep on being awesome.
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>>51350984
kabal of the falling moon
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>>51351047
It's a good idea. Never thought of using wood elves for rangers.
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>>51351027
skit.
I could be a bit of a faggot but i came back in post 5e when admech were released and i personally cannot be arsed to deal with formations and allies.
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>>51351044

Reminder that troops with 30" S5 Rapid fire basic weapon and a 4+ save isn't good enough for the Tau.
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>>51350984
I've always considered Biel'tan to be pure sex. Green, white, and black is "okay" as a combo, but mixed with the heart and thorns, it just comes across as aesthetic as fuck.

A close second would be the craftworld that was introduced in the FW corsairs book. I forgot their name, but the teal-aquamarine gradients did things to me,
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>>51351044
You can make the Warriors as Breachers though.

You can also just sell off the shit from the box you don't want, potentially. They're also good for smaller games or diversifying your army, or for kill team. For just 10 extra bucks there's really no reason not to pick up the start collecting if you want a team of crisis suits.
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I have about $300 Canadian (about $225 USD) to start collecting Tau. I was thinking about starting off with a Riptide or a Stormsurge (basically the whole reason I want to collect Tau is for the dope battlesuits) and then getting some stuff to support them. Is an all-battlesuit army practical? What other stuff should I be looking to purchase?
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>>51351077

I actually used some extra WE bits to make some Storm Guardians for my friend many years ago. I had so many extra sword arms.
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>>51351062
never underestimate the haywire.
it's really good and it;s a bit cheaper, 3+ isn't great but it does mean autocannons are less effective.
the T-cannon is trash.
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>>51351077
>>51351067

Do you fellas remember the Alatioc army in the back of the 5th edition rulebook? With the converted Wraith Lord? That was John Shaffer's army - he was the guy who gave me the idea to start with Glade Guard when we were talking about plastic rangers.
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Why do people consider Warp Spiders to be cheesy?
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>>51351062
those options are for if your local meta has a bunch of ork and tyranid players you want to tone it down since you are winning literally every game
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>>51351109
Have you read their rules?
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>>51351114
I've glanced at them. They seem easy enough to kill
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>>51351114

Of course he hasn't, he's posting in the 40k general.
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>>51351109
their models have yet to be updated since 2e
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>>51351103
>Is an all-battlesuit army practical?

Yes, with Farsight Enclaves.

Just buy boxes of Crisis Suits, a Commander, the Riptide and Stormsurge. Ghostkeels are great too, as are broadsides.

If you can find it, the 170~USD Battleforce box that came out for Christmas is pretty much the best way to get started as Tau.
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>>51351078
>and i personally cannot be arsed to deal with formations and allies.
thats why you wont be able to beat competitive style tau lists. skit arent a real codex 2bh, they are basically only half of a codex. warconvo would smash tau. skit probably could too though, if you set it up right/allied in knights
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>>51351044
Fire Warriors are great. They're 9 points with a 4+ save and a 30 inch strength 5 gun. A line of Fire warriors can take out a Rhino from the front before it can even shoot at them, and will probably pick off any marines inside before they can get close either.

To get a crisis suit to do the same job, you'd have to give one a Burst cannon, and at that point you could have bought 3 fire warriors.
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>>51351109
They fucking run out of range in your damn shooting phase right after they moved a billion inches to get in range
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>>51351122
>literally have an ability that blinks them away whenever you try to attack them
>easy enough to kill

What you need to kill is yourself.
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>>51351122
They are easy enough to kill.
Until you realize that if you even try to shoot them they'll just jump out of LoS.
Until they jump back next turn and mince some shit with their S6 Rending-lite shitstorm, jetpack-moving backwards immediately afterwards to hide again.
You cannot catch the fuckers unless you dedicate unreasonable amounts of firepower to removing them squad by squad.
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>>51350896
Sorry I assume they were two priest. The second Cannones threw me off. Fucking why?

Also servo-skulls and the acolyte formation... Just get the old one.

Those SoB on foot either need to be 10 or 20. Less than that they go in an Immolator.

Drop the fucking superior in th seraphim. The only reason for it to be there is for Celestine. But new Celestine does not require that trick anymore.

Again fucking why 2 fat cows? Just get the priest with the litanies and maybe a mace if you wish.

Put your shit in transport MSU does not work without transport you are not GSC that can start the game right next to the enemy for your Flamers to shoot.
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>>51351109

Couple of reasons -

-They have a very good gun. S6, rending, wounds against I rather than T means they wound on 2+ against most targets.

-The main reason is that they're super fast and very difficult to pin down. They're Jet Infantry with Battle Focus and they get to jump away when targeted by shooting as added protection.
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>>51351039
>>51351025
>Stubborn and Skilled Rider
Could be worse, you're right. Maybe Ultras after all.

I dunno, I've been using Red Hunters. I like them, but I keep forgetting the special rules till it's too late, and I don't exactly have a ton of charges to Adamantium Will deny with. Thoughts?
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>>51351103
just buy riptides, everything else is sub optimal. you could run surges for fun but they are sub optimal
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>>51351159
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you just charge them instead of trying to shoot them?
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>>51351177

Why the fuck would they ever end their movement in your charge range you dumb faggot? Read their fucking rules.
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>>51351104
I read "WE" as "World Eaters," and the image that came to mind was wonderful.

>They're called "Storm" because of the sound of their chainaxes roaring as they descend into flesh.
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>>51351159
>>51351162
Jesus fucking christ that's cheesy. you can run an aspect host with them right?
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>>51351177

You can but its rare they're going to end their movement phase in your charge range thanks to their ability to jet out of LoS, into cover, out of range, etc in the assault phase.
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>>51351177
If you dedicate a faster-than-average unit to chasing them down, yes.

But it's more likely that they'll just shoot it to shit before it ever gets there, and even if it does they likely have at least two more squads of Spiders.
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>>51351170
Red Hunters was going to be something else I'd suggest, as it's similar to Ultras in that it's really variable.

It requires more precise tactics and timing though, as you'll want to maximize the number of units that benefit, pick out the best special rules for those units, but not wait too late where you miss your chance.
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>>51351188

You can (and they're a very popular choice in an Aspect Host in competitive lists to boot).
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>>51351184

That would actually be pretty badass. No one uses storm guardians, so why not have fun with it?
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>>51351210
That's just horrible. So they hit on 2s and wound on 2s against mostly everything.
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>>51351141
Ork 'ard Boyz are great. They're 10 points with a 4+ save and a muthafukkn choppa. A trukk of 'ard boyz can take out a Rhino from the front before it can even shoot at them, and will probably get stuck in wit any marines inside before they can run away either.

To get a crisis suit to do the same job, you'd have to give one no upgrades and just run a shitload of them.
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>>51351108
Sure do. I was actually looking through my old Eldar books a while back trying to find it, and was pretty disappointed that I couldn't. Cheers for reminding me where I saw it, too.

I might have to look to similar sources for conversion ideas - I'm starting a Corsairs army and want to make everything from scratch.
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>>51351222

Yeah - I own a full Aspect Host of them but I almost never ever play them because of that. They're so good that they're not really fun to play against.

>>51351238

Sure thing - that was a really cool army and the guy who owned it was also super cool.
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>>51351236
Do I really need to point out all the ways that comparison falls flat, or can you learn from your stupidity yourself?
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>>51351236
> Stormboyz are 1 point cheaper
> Don't risk being exploded by the trukk
> can take up to 30 per squad
> average a 27 inch charge range on a waaagh
Honestly I love stormboyz and think they are the most underrated unit in the codex
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>>51351200
Just gotta remember they all exist now.
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>But the roar of battle cures many ills of the mind, and the desire for survival transcends all existential doubt. Orders rang out, and the shaken Vostroyans entered the fray, joined by snipers from long-dead Tanith, Salamanders thought lost during the Klovian disaster, and a lone warrior in golden armour, his scarlet plume and eagle heraldry seldom seen so far from the cradle of Mankind.
Dorn?
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>>51351044
>Anyways, the issue with Fire Warriors is that they're glass cannons that can't really do anything outside of shred troops at 30".

So they cant do shit except what they're meant to do? Cap objectives and shred troops at 30''? S5 is already good enough to glance most light vehicles like rhinos and their access to markerlights makes a firewarrior gunline a pain in the ass to assault if you somehow manage to get there.

Are there better things than firewarriors? Sure, but they're not crap, they're one of the best troops in the game and the fact that Tau fags think that 30'' S5 4+sv for 9pts is crap is nothing but a testament to WAAC mentality that has turned Tau into the "Must bring 10 riptides to win" race.
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>>51351139
>thats why you wont be able to beat competitive style tau lists
i never laminated that fact, like i said i try to play around the damn thing because my vanguard will be dead before they get close enough to do damage and there isn't anything else that could reasonably be expected to deal with MC.
my point was some codexes don't have the right answer to it,
>. skit arent a real codex 2bh
well aware of it, the entire reason why admech are a split codex is because gw wanted more money,
> skit probably could too though, if you set it up right/allied in knights
Then it becomes a toss up with cover and composition.
the right knight could do some shit, mine has the shittiest luck off all outside of stomp.
but outside of that the only things i could reliably doing damage is pings from the few actual AT platforms i have or running up plas-vanguards
maybe the cheeki breekis
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>>51351264
It's literally a Custodian word-for-word, do you really think they would bring Dorn back this way, especially just to kill him off in the same book?
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>>51351264
A custodian
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While Warp Spiders are up for discussion, why is it that eldar monofilament weapons get "Monofilament," which is fantastic, yet deldar monofilament weapons get "Shred"?
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>>51351265

Yeah. I prefer my SOB but Fire Warriors are nothing if not scary fucking infantry. I'd happily trade my access to junk like Storm Bolters for Markerlights or even your basic rifle as a special weapon.
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>>51351264
>his scarlet plume and eagle heraldry seldom seen so far from the cradle of Mankind.

Rogal Dorn.
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>>51351264
Custodes.
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>>51351264
A Custodian dumbass.
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>>51351264

A Custodes, I believe.
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>>51351287
And to compare.
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>>51351264

It was a Custodes
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>>51351287

Why do Eldar get an armor save boost on their jetbikes and DE don't?
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>>51351291
I'll break it down for you.
Eagle heraldry is obvious
Gold = dorn or a custodian
Far from the Cradle (Terra) of mankind: Custodians live on terra
It's a fucking custodian

Sorry for being condescending I don't mean it
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>>51351287
>>51351306
The shredder is just such an awful weapon. I've never found a use for it and it makes me sad to waste all the cool-looking guns.
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My archon, Drezden Sliqq

Lord of a band of vicious pluderers and rapers who dwell on the very edges of the dark city, garnering him the title Lord of the Edge.
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>>51351319
Because fuck Noir Aeldari
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>>51351319
This is the one I care about more. How hard would it be to just make them both a 4+ save? It's better than what the basic infantry get, but also not space marine level.

Shining Spears can keep theirs for Heavy Aspect Armor, but really.

Also, how come Dark Eldar HQs can't get Jetbikes?
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>>51351257
sucks that they are failcast
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>>51351319
They actually do. Reavers grant a 5+ armor save, but the riders themselves only have a wychsuit, so it'd be 6+ normally.

Not that they give a shit because of Skilled Rider, but yeah, it's fucking bull.
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>>51351338

>Also, how come Dark Eldar HQs can't get Jetbikes?

Same reason my Cannoness can't get a Jump Pack, despite the fact she was almost certainly a Seraphim at some point 'Fuck you'.
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>>51351336
>Drezden
Does preparation and a collection of magical artifacts secreted about on his person directly influence his chance of victory? How many agreements with supernatural beings has his bad luck forced him into? At least we know his mother left him a WWP as an heirloom.
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>>51351359

Stormboyz are a plastic kit.
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Does the Contemptor Dreadnought kit allow the 'nought to kneel?
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>>51351336
I really hate the crossed arm pose
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>>51351336
> Dresden
Does he really get firebombed that often after the battle?
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>>51351336
>Sliqq
>slick

Is his wife called Darza Fapp?
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>>51351378
the plastic one not without some serious cutting and modification

the resin one yes
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>Saint Celestine coming in the mail soon
>really don't want to fuck up the paintjob
i'm worried /tg/
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>>51351392
Commission someone good
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>>51351250
Are... are you an idiot?
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>>51351390
Hrm. Thanks, dude.
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>>51351392
Remember the words of Saint Duncan. Don't worry if you make a mistake, you can come back later and sort it then.
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Is the epup mega link dead?
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>>51351377
thats not bad at all then
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>>51351392
Just thin your paints really thin for practice runs on the model, or just practice your lines with water on the brush.
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>>51351398
>10 point unit
>Needs a transport to actually get that close without being shot
>Transport might get blown up by the Rhino and the marines inside before it actually closes in
>Need to assault
>Upon killing the Rhino in assault, all the marines can immediately rapid fire to kill the nearby Orks as well as charging them
>Tau they'd be getting one shot at best and have to actually engage in a firefight

Yeah. You're right. Fire Warriors are clearly on the same level as Ork Boyz. Who would ever use that garbage?
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>>51351416
Yes
As an aside if anyone wants the IA books they're here
https://vk DOT com FORWARD SLASH wall-55168313_131
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>>51351418
they've probably got the best heads in the ork range, too
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>>51351275
Two (2!) knight gallants. There was an anon advocating for them pretty hard as part of a War Convo, I tried it and it was glorious. Bear in mind though that it's a 650 point investment so have some way to keep them safe. Just run up to the riptides and give them the D.

Or take 12 grav kataphrons for 660 points, your call.
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>>51351336
I love it
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>>51351327
I feel you.

>Reading Path of the Archon
>Shredder Cannons minced whole fleets of raiders, dropping chunks of flesh and metal onto the troops below.

>Read rulebook
>mfw
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>>51351463
i can dig both of those.
I don't like the kataphrons as much, at the 86cad a box,
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>>51351418
I usually keep mine in the ghaz formation so that I can DS 45-90 boyz in 3 squads with only D6" scatter on the same turn

It seriously terrifies the enemy
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>>51349815
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>>51351399
The FW one is literally 2$ more, iirc.
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>>51351445

>doesn't understand jokes
>doesn't understand that he doesn't understand

I thought autism on /40kg/ was a meme but I guess not, holy shit.
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>>51350162
>Not wounding the S8 Chaos Lord on a 4+
What are you, gay? Only white race in 40k coming through here.
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>>51351530
>I was only pretending!

Nice save.
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CSM 2k List - Running against my necron friend in a not too optimized friendly game... Jugg lord w bikes, Kharn in LR w/ a unit of zerkers
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>>51351445

Not the guy you replied to, and this is something of a tangent, but 'ard boys with a painboy in the unit are as tanky as necrons.
I've been wondering if making an army built around this gimmick could work.
Thoughts?
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>>51351530
>not knowing 4chins is full of autism
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>>51351530
Not him, but sarcasm doesn't come across well in text. I thought you were playing it straight as well.
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>>51351496
it sounds way better than a foot horde would be. then again they do cost as much as a 'ardboy
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>>51351561

>memeing incorrectly about being retarded
>might actually be retarded

By all means, continue, I'm having a great time at your expense.
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>>51351578
do it. or run green tide with like 120 'ard boys in 1 unit with ws5, fearless and FNP
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>>51351588
>then again they do cost as much as a 'ardboy
no trukk tax on top, though
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>>51351557
As a DE fan, something still bothers me about splinter weapons.

>realize they wound everything on 4+, including MCs
>think about deepstriking 20 of them next to a unit with a WWP
>40 4+ shots against anything aught to leave one hell of a dent in anything
>...nicks a couple of marines at best and a riptide laughs it off.
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>>51351250
was it autism?
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>>51351557
The math is not in your favor, degenerate.
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>>51351588
It's quite hard to support to be honest, you basically need a pimped out stompa or a blitz brigade to take the heat while you call in your reserves.
Alternately you can take mogroks formation to get them in more reliably
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>>51351578
I don't really play Orks, so take this with a grain of salt. The main issues I could see with it compared to footslogging Necrons is a relative lack of killing power. While they are as durable (unless somebody manages to snipe the painboy), they don't put out the same firepower that Warriors or Immortals would. They're going to be forced to try and get into assaults in order to kill stuff, and that's a tricky prospect.

Putting them in a Trukk to charge out of would help, but at that point you've bought a painboy, trukk, and are spending 10 points per boy just to get something that Necron Warriors do by themselves.

Green Tide would help make it more cost effective, but cuts out the possibility of using a trukk.

I feel like overall you'd be better served buying extra boys rather than heavy armor, even with the painboy. After all, an armor save to protect you from some wounds half the time for 4 points isn't quite as good as just getting an extra wound that can stab and shoot people for 6.
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>>51351624
Honestly you're better off running 300 boyz for the same price.

You can also re enact 300
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>>51351557
>Has to sit still for a whole turn just to fire it's heavy weapons
>5+ save

The Adeptus Mechanicus has no policy for or against homosexuality. Though Skitarii battleplate is self-lubricating.

You're phenotypical pallor is irrelevent next to the Ordo Biologis crafted perfection of the Skitarius gene-template.
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>>51351647
So it seems, so it seems. Perpetuating the stereotype of autistic tau players. Should we call them Tautists?
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>>51351265

>this
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>>51351649
>>51351557
>>51350162
Um...
I've got a flashlight, so all of you heretics can suck it.
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>>51351699
5+ and FNP, really. A 4+ FNP if you aren't an idiot.
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>>51351708
>The ability to know rules and count is autism
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>>51350826
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>>51351727
Uhh...
I've got big burly arms
> S3
GAK
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>>51351776
>Furious Charge

:^)
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>>51351776
they really do need +1 strength armywide. it wouldnt fix them but it would be a start
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>>51351382
So do I, so I did this
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>>51351742
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>>51350984

I've wanted to start an Iyanden army for the longest time but I'm frankly terrified of that much yellow.
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>>51351795
Honestly S6 on the warboss wouldn't even be overpowered, it would just allow the Big Choppa or 2 relics to serve an actual role in his weapon selections.
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>>51351842
big choppas should also be ap3, or have rending.
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>>51351827
Looks sorta like mine! I was lazier about the sword though.
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>>51351841
I tried to and gave up, and am now doing a Ibrasiel army
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What is this new Space Marine super friends I hear about and why are they placing?
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>>51351742
The inability to understand jokes, sarcasm, and context IS autism, desu
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Tangential 40k question, but is "ii" at the end of a word always pronounced "ee-eye" like in latin? I presume it is because those words are meant to be latin-derived in 40k, but it's weird to me that a faction like dark eldar would use it due to their language not being not-latin.

Skitarii - Skih-tahr-ee-eye.
Hekatarii - Hehk-ah-tahr-ee-eye?
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>>51351874
technically it's mindblindness no?
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>>51351727
he's grimacing because he knows he can never return to cadia
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>>51351893
It's faux-latin. Duncan pronounces Skitarii as "Ski-TAR-ee."
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>>51351893
Ammendment - "ee-eye" like people do in English for latin words. I don't think dem lats actually pronounced it that way, but I'm no expert there either.
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>>51351857
I think ap3 would be too strong and downright unorky to be honest, but maybe ap4 with rending and a hammer of wrath attack or something would definitely help out.
It's sad to see that every single ork list has either a warboss with a power klaw or zhardsnark and really says something about the selection of melee threats that orks have.

Really GW should just diversify their melee weapon range and make them accessible for most models and they'd be alright in melee.

It hurts me that Ogryns have 3W to Nobz 2
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>>51351893
>Tangential 40k question, but is "ii" at the end of a word always pronounced "ee-eye" like in latin?
yes, but most 40k players (and plebs in general) are illiterate so just say it however you want.
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>>51351893
In 40k, it seems to just be an 'ee' sound.

In the audiobooks/audio dramas, it's Skit-Ar-Ee not Skit-Ar-Ee-Eye
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>>51351896
We'll fix it.
Maybe.
Probably not...
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>>51351827
Nice Valhallan
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>>51351933
>this meme again
IT'S NOT EVEN TRUE READ THE BOOK FUCKING NORMIE RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>51351574
C & C would b dope
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>>51351949
the book is trash
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>>51351257
>Don't risk being exploded by the trukk
But they risk dying to everything else. I feel like the rating is justified
Warbikers are better
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>>51351921
>I think ap3 would be too strong and downright unorky to be honest
yeah it would be strong. it would allow it to compete with the (strength 10) klaw for your nob bosses though. it would also allow a unit of 10x nobz with big choppas to fuck up wraithknights. rending would probably be more balanced though. or maybe a AP3/4 if you charge or something kinda meme. the warboss should also have at least 4 wounds.

orks really arent that far off being good, they just need a few simple buffs.
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>>51351949
To be fair, squads broke, companies broke, but the guard as a whole didn't. The very last of them died with Creed fighting back during evac. Of course, Creed himself ddin't get to die, but that's besides the point.
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>>51351921

>ap3 would be too strong for orks
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>>51351893
>like in latin
we don't KNOW how they pronounced it in latin, which is why these sorts of conversations crop up

ee-eye
ih-ee
eye
ee

Are all valid pronunciations.
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>>51351926
>>51351893
since when is EE-EYE the correct pronunciation in latin
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yeah the astra millitarum held!
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>>51351949
Guard was still fighting right up until the planet went kablooey.

Stay butthurt traitor scum.
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>>51351998
Since I amended my post with >>51351915.
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>>51351857
>S7 Ap3
nah, there'd be no reason to take klaws

Orks should just get access to power weapons again. They'd actually get some use out of power axes, because their initiative is so fucking trash to begin with.
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>>51351998
since like 3000 years ago
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>>51351975
Yep 100% with that, ap4 rending big choppas and 3w and maybe t5 on nobz and they could wreck some royal ass.

>>51351988
I play orks and I think we need more ap2 but ap3 on fucking big choppas that cost 5pts would be going too far down the path of "Just cheese my shit up senpai"
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>>51352017
klaws would be s10 on nobz. power weapons would be nice though
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>>51351998
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJJPce-e_zU

I think the fine folks at Creative Assembly know a little bit more about Classical Latin pronounciation than you do anon.
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>>51352018
Romans would have said skit-ar-ee-ee
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>>51352019
>>51351975
>>51351921
Ap4 is completely unnecessary and unfluffy. An ork choppa should not tear through carapace armor by default. Every bit of fluff shows otherwise. However, I see absolutely nothing wrong with Rending, nor AP5.
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>>51352019
>S6/7 AP4 rending Choppas on T5 3W Nobz
That seems overly excessive
I love it
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>>51352056
The first "i" would be short, actually, and the second long.
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>>51352069
AP4 is the same as a chainaxe, when a big choppa is a fucking big ass chainaxe handled by an 8 foot tall hunk of muscle
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>>51352036
CA's latin is anglicized latin, and technically incorrect.
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>>51352019
t5 nobz wouldnt even be overpowered 2bh. t5 + 3 wounds might be pushing it, but could be cost accordingly. biker nobz should be s5 t6, since they cost a retarded amount of points

i mean shit, a shit covered chaos marine on a bike has t6 and a 5+FNP 3+ save for 26 points a model.

at this point running a death guard biker list feels more like ork nobz than an ork list does right now.
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>>51352092
I think he's talking the standard Choppas, not the big ones. The ones that are currently just normal close combat weapons.

>>51352069
I'd say AP 5 would fit better than Rending, as Rending usually has a precision aspect to it. Ork swords seem like they could chop up a guardsman easy, wheras being sharp enough to sometimes slice through a Terminator feels off.

Alternatively, giving the target a -1 to their armor save might be fitting as well and help to represent that level of brute force in a meaningful way.
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>>51352073
You have to remember that Nobz should be the shock troopers of the ork army, and should be at least as strong as ogryns in support.
They still strike after marines, they still get wiped up by ranged firepower, they still cost a rediculous amount to ferry about in a battlewagon, however with this they would at least be able to stand a chance of smushing a vanguard vet squad.
T6 on nob bikers may be a bit over the top I will admit but hey, thats what they pay 17 points per model
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>>51352036
>the people who brought us Hollywood Egyptians, six radically different European tribes that all used the same troops, and who don't know the difference between a Hoplite and a Phalangite, don't know what a Peltes is, think Cataphracts were armoured head to hoof in nothing but scale armour, and included Themyscira as a province
>authorities on history
No, Rome Total War was made based on the general concept of Rome and their enemies, not on actual research.
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>>51352036
>implying that is the correct way
I've heard a lot of folks angry with this and considering the company's current choice of engine i doubt their sanity
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>>51352019

I never said AP3 big choppas would remain at 5 points.
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>>51352124
Yeah it's actually sad that at the moment, a nob will lose to the equivalent amount of ork boyz.
I think that says something to their current point efficiency.
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>>51352127
I agree anon.
I think Nobz should be terrifying and force and opponent to avoid combat with them at all costs.
But if you give Nobz T5 3W what happens to Warbosses/Boyz?
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>>51352127
and the would all start out with 6+
22 points base and the axes would cost 15
ther ewould still be less reason to take them over the mega armoured nobs
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>>51352019
>3w and maybe t5
T5 yes
3W no

nobs should be "one step" above boys, "one step" below the boss

s3 t4 1w
s4 t5 2w
s5 t6 3w

T5 2W is huge. 3W would be fucking stupid.
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>>51352163
warboss goes to 4 or 5 wounds, boys stay at 1.

could just leave nobz at t5 2 wounds (and lower their points cost) and make mega armor/warbikes give +1t +1 wound (which all bikes and terminator armor should)
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>>51352126
>as Rending usually has a precision aspect to it
Precision - or luck. My first Rending weapon in 40k was an Assault Cannon, and a lucky blow tearing thought something it usually wouldn't sounds right in theme with orks.

Also, pic related has always embodied by view on power armor. I know the guy slicing through the joints represents the 1 and 2 on the armor save, but I could see orky rending there too.
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>>51349751
>>Freshest Rules in Epub (Use Readium for PC or Kobo on Android)
>https://mega.nz/#F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!2tgBUTYI

IT BROKE T_T
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>>51352163
Warbosses should always have been at least 4W desu and should get some additional toughness boosts.
Boyz should be the hormagaunts to the nobz carnifex, and should be a horde of green hooligans that can shoot shit with their pistols in the spare time they get from punching the enemy/themselves in the face.

>>51352176
Nobz should at least be able to go toe to toe with ogryns, and ogryns would trounce those nobz despite being a rarely taken unit that could benefit from actual psychic powers
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>>51352181
Maybe, though I feel like just having a big old hatchet to cut through flak armor fits better there.

Maybe it would be easier to just have the melee weapons give +1 strength. Helps them be more reliable at cutting through things, gives them really nice strength alongside furious charge, and prevents them from falling off as severely.
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>>51352176
>Warboss can't be instant deathed by S10
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>>51352176
T7 warboss on bike
Fucking hell yes give me some of that shit.
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>>51352193
Just use wh40klib.ru
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>>51352245
basic choppas dont really need rules. just give the whole army +1 strength base (and furious charge). the big choppa needs some love though, ap4 rending would work. maybe rampage or something mixed it would be cool
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>>51352247
If they aren't gonna be given easy Invuln saves like basically every other HQ in the game, they should at least have some way of not dying to a Demolisher cannon to the face.

More terrifying is when that Warboss gets on a Bike and is immune to Lasguns.
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>>51352201
>Nobz should at least be able to go toe to toe with ogryns
??? they already can, since they wound on 2's and ogryn have no saves to speak of. T5 and power weapons would make them even better.

Nobs will struggle against bullgryn, but a unit with mauls costs 200 points for just three.
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>>51351418
It's a plastic kit that's $25 for 5 models.

Kinda obscene considering how many of them you'll need to field in a single unit.
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>>51352247
they already cant.
>revs bike
>>51352268
it wouldnt even be OP if they raised the cost of the warboss/bike.

ws 5 bs 2 s5(10) t6(7) w4(5) i2 (melee race) ld 9 4+ 3++ jink, etc. for like 200 points or something wouldnt even be broken.
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>>51352280
Yeah
Nobz should have rampage and Meganobz should have S&P or something along those lines, just to give reason to taking nobz. Of course maybe bump their price up by 5 or so ppm for the rampage.
I think nobz should stay at S4 just for the point of power klaws being only S8
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>>51352335
>Meganobz should have S&P
But they do?
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>>51352329
Yeah but I like Mega Armor...
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>>51352351
I know I'm just using it to show the point of difference between the two playstyles of the units.
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>>51352335
the s10 klaw means you could actually threaten TWC/marine bikestars/knights. the s10 klaw wouldnt just be good for orkz, it would be good for the game because its a hard counter to some broken shit.
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>>51352361
mega armor would give +1w +1T (just like bikes should) 2+ with a 5++ invuln. so hed still be 5 wounds with t7
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>>51352301
Sorry I should have specified Bullygryns.
Bullygryns buff units beside them and can take a cheap transport.

Nobz need a minimum of 17ppm bikes or a 115pt battlewagon to romp around in

>>51352389
It might counter cheese but it would make meganobz rediculous
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>>51352424
>It might counter cheese but it would make meganobz rediculous
theyd still trade (at best) with TWC/wulfen.

meganobz would probably need a point increase though
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So this helps out Nobz/Meganobz as well as warbosses
But how would Boyz be buffed?
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You guys get anything recently?

Finally picked up this bad boy for my Archon and his snakeman-slaves to roll in
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>>51352479
>sales tax
What is this meme?
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>>51352476
They don't really need buffs, beyond making a new mob rule.

maybe letting burnas get used in the shooting phase and the CC phase in the same turn
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>>51352479
Picked up some Skyweavers to add on to my mixed Eldar force. Hoping to add some more Jetbikes in a less cheesey way.
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>>51352476
>But how would Boyz be buffed?
theyd be s4 base with furious charge.

also mega armor should probably just give +1 wound (along with all terminator armor), and warbikes should just give +1t (along with all bikes)... +1 to both stats does get a little carried away
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>>51352479
>You guys get anything recently?
Nope. I won't buy anything more from a company that goes out of its way to make my gaming miserable.

I play Orks.
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>>51352496
Welcome to commie-fornia

Dont worry, im sure its going to a good causesection 8 housing for pedro and his 14 children to trash
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>>51352479
im thinking of getting 3x riptides to compliment my 4x riptide riptide wing.
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>>51352532
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>>51352496
Theres a magical land called america, where you are taxed when you earn money, and again when you spend it
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>>51352479
Im saving up for those plastic sisters that are dropping in early February.
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Other than a fucking Necron sword, does the Farsight Enclave actually have any close-ranged weapons that aren't flamers or those edgy Fusion Blades?

You'd think that once they got over their weeb mentality that they'd apply their insane tech powers into making a chainsword or something.
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>>51350107
>buy gift of mutation
>get the roll d3 more times result
>get in again
>fuck, i rolled d3 again
>get toughness each time
>toughness 10 cultist champion
>majority toughness still 3
>opponent denies challenge
>squad runs off the board
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>>51352771
>memes: the post
Also fuck you fusion blades are an awesome concept.
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>>51352771
>edgy Fusion Blades
Edgy how?

And no, but Crisis Suits are ok at punching stuff in a pinch, and can put enough fire into a unit at short range via plasma/melta/flamers/burst to make punching the remnants to death totally viable.
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>>51352626
Sales tax is more state-based than federally based.
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>>51352771
Unless you count Ethereal Honor Blades.. no.

Or Bonding Knives. But still no. Even the Fusion Blades are kind of a 'in case of'

Tau are still very tailored to the case, even in the Enclaves.
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>>51351397
fuck that, it's not my model if I do that
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>>51349751
Stop fat acceptance
>>51352831
No more fat lady characters
>>51352831
First fat Celestine and now fat Malys
>>51352831
Fat eldars are Canon now
>>51352831
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>>51352626
Europe has VAT and higher income tax, though...
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>>51352771
You can still take the Onager Gauntlet, and one of the Eight has one already. They can also take Breachers for shotguns, along with still having access to Kroot and Ethereals.

You don't really need chainswords when a Crisis suit has strength 5 punches anyway. But if you do want a sword to fit your imperial tastes, you can buy those fusion blades and swap them out for Celestine's relic sword from her list, so long as you include her. A bit pricey, but you seem to want to play Imperials anyway.
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>>51351795
They also need their base LD rebalanced to what it should be. At least bring the iron gob back its better than the shitty taxes orks pay now.

>TFW only oldschool ork players know what im talking about.
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>>51352069
Big choppas are ap5
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>>51352181
>I know the guy slicing through the joints represents the 1 and 2 on the armor save, but I could see orky rending there too.

That used to be the logic behind the choppa rule .
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>>51352424
>It might counter cheese but it would make meganobz rediculous

I see nothing wrong with either of those, have you seen melee units in 40k lately?
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>>51352771
>Onager Gauntlet
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>>51351699
Weapon platforms are relentless.
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