MTG EDH/COMMANDER GENERAL

Building Karn stax. Seems pretty fun, but not much card draw. I'm already running howling mine, font mind stone 1-3 and even warping wail. Any more suggestions?

>>51329666
Any mana rocks that can draw cards.
Mind Stone, Hedron Archive, even Commander Sphere if you're dying for it.

>>51329666

Travelers amulet, the spellbombs from mirrodin, and conjurers bauble.

Then throw in Sculpting steel. And Prototype portal. Prorotype portal+a spellbomb is hilarious. Or even better, prototype portal+sculpting steel.

>>51329680
he said he has mind stone 1-3, which i assume includes hedron archive and dreamstone hedron.

mind's eye might be gud. gives you something to dump mana into when you have a bunch of rocks and nothing else

>>51329666
mind's eye is bretty gud if you are looking for card draw

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Building a life gain/loss deck. Doesn't feel as strong as my others, but haven't gotten the chance to play it much at all yet. Any standout cards I should make sure I have?

I'm running mostly turn-by-turn life gain/loss as opposed to blinking/spawning creatures for triggers. My group is more casual so I don't need to worry about t3/4/5 combo kills.

>>51329756
hatred

Daily reminder that if you play land ramp and don't allow MLD at your table you are the cancer killing EDH.

alright fuckers I've been wanting to built mono black for a while now and I threw this together yesterday. Anything you think I should change? I'm worried about my mana curve.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/551504

>>51329795
i play both

So I've had this idea for a grixis artifacts list using silas renn/kraum. idea would be a staxy/control list with the ability to strap a sword on kraum and go for commander damage as a back up win con.

any body have any ideas for must-haves? I'm going to start hot glueing a list together in a little bit and see what comes out

>>51329756
No specific cards, but a general tip with Oloro (and life gain decks in general). You should focus on triggers, not the amount gained. Gaining one life a turn is way more powerful in this kind of deck than a one shot lifegain card, even if you can gain 20-30 life without any doublers.

Reposting from last thread

>>51327103
Bolas is my Favorite Villian. I want a Bolas Theme Deck but his OG art is Garbage and the FTV card is too exspensive for my blood.

>>51327146
Are you guy with the theme deck? Can you post it? I want to get a sense of what is in it.

>>51329756
I run Oloro but have no secret tech. I guess >>51329766 and obvious shit like toxic deluge and Aethrflux Reservoir

>>51329825
looks like it's full of really bad cards

if you want to make it better then try taking those out and replacing them with good cards

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>>51329604
Post your decks.

>>51329853
well, what do you suggest anon
clearly I can't tell the difference

>>51329756
Here's my list, it's been performing pretty well.

>>51329878
nice

>>51329878
>>51329756
I'm a retard who should be shot.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/s-i-t-t-i-n-g-w-a-i-t-i-n-g-w-i-s-h-i-n-g/

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>>51329867

>>51329756
Rhox faithmender

>>51329680
>>51329707
>>51329717
>>51329755
Thanks all. Gonna grab a minds eye. One thing i have no lack of is mana. Can i run spell bombs in karn?

>>51329917
no, if it has a colored mana symbol in the card text it counts as that color

>>51329795
What about Sol Ring and Mana Vault? Those aren't cancer in the slightest right?

Reposting from last thread:

Anyone mind helping me out with this Maelstrom Wanderer deck? I've used EDHREC quite a bit to try to throw something together, but it doesn't look very cohesive... And I'm 8 cards over.

Any essential tech I'm missing? Any awful cards I should cut?

I'm not interested in any sort of infinite combo or MLD bullshit. I just wanna Timmy hard and cast big shit for free.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-wandering-storm-2/

>>51329848
I'm 100% with you on that. Almost all of my creatures and enchantments trigger lifegain or loss. It's mostly 1 or 2 life but I know it will add up, especially when I get out sanguine bond or defiant broodlord.

>>51329903
Paradox Haze and psychosis crawler look great, I'm definitely adding them.

>>51329917
Nope, but you can and should run Relic of Progenitus and maybe even Alhammarret's Archive to double up those cantrips

>>51329935
Nobody cares about artifact destruction though, mass or otherwise. So you don't have the same level of hypocrisy.

>>51328800
I had that problem too.

I built it anyway. You don't need it.

I run Splendid Reclamation, Dakmor Salvage, Drownyard Temple, Titania, and Creeping Renaissance and the deck worked fine. It even works without Life from the Loam although I have one of those now as well. Burgeoning and Exploration are good as well to recoup land loss. Don't be a pussy.

>>51329986
Also, I recommend high market. Don't expect to use it much for no reason, but a general sac outlet is always good, and this one fits your theme.

>>51329949
cut
-Bloodbraid Elf
-Temur Sabertooth
-Shardless agent
-greenwarden of murasa
-etherium horn sculptor
-mind's dilation
-selvala's stampede
add in a bit more ramp and whatever other timmy shit you want(creatures take priority). The key to enjoying your Maelstorm Wanderer deck is just playing cards you like(so if anything I said to cut holds sentimental value, ignore it)

>>51330051
Thanks anon, I appreciate the response.

The only two there I'd be hesitant to cut are Green warden and Mind's Dilation.

Though, Selvala's Stampede, and the cascade creatures play into my desire to play shit for free.

GIVE ME A COMMANDER THAT ONLY GOES FORWARD, HAS NO BRAKES, AND GIVES ZERO FUCKS, AGGRO OR OTHERWISE

>>51330095
the smaller cascade cards are generally not that great.

>>51330114

Heartless Hidetsugu

>>51330114
Silvos, rogue elemental.

>>51330114
if you can make Radha, you can make a great Balls-deep deck

>>51329851
> OG art is garbage

you are no fan

>>51330114
Zurgo Helmsmasher
Equpment Voltron focusing on indistruccable and board wipes

>>51330125
I LIKE IT BECAUSE RED ELEMENTAL BLAST AND SHIT
>>51330143
I KIND OF LIKE IT BECAUSE GREEN TURN-CLOCKS
>>51330171
I LIKE IT BECAUSE 1V1 I GUESS WITH LAND DESTRUCTION

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>>51329867
I need to build something that doesn't include blue or red

>>51330281
>>51330278
I HAPPEN TO LIKE MY PACK FOIL OBLITERATE YES THIS WORKS TOO

>>51330095
I agree with most of his cuts, but would personally keep temur sabertooth. It is nice to be able to bounce other creatures to dodge spot removal and field wipes, and being able to cast Malstrom Wanderer whenever is spicy.

>>51330245
I'm sorry. But I started playing M13 and the first time I saw Bolas was as his Planeswalker art. The old art look nothing like new bolas. Has weird proportions. Has nothing to do with current incarnation of Bolas or his ability. And honestly looks like something I could pay my one of my art school hopeful friends to out do. so I guess I'll just get an Old Bolas and pay for an Alter.

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What is the best artifact to slap Mechanized Production onto that is still useful on its own?
can't include mycosynth lattice

>>51330377
Sol ring

>>51330377
Darksteel ingot
Darksteel Pendant
Check all the darksteels for spicyness

>>51330377
SadBot
filligree Familiar
Anything with a cool ETB or Dies trigger to dissuade opponents from destroying it

>>51330377
I guess darksteel forge doean't count then. Blinkmoth urn can be completely retarded. Magister sphinx is pretty fun.

My favourite is alhammarret's archive though. Had that happen in my lifegain deck, my life reached 5 digits.

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>>51330410
Darksteel reactor for maximum spice.

hey guys, is Puca dead? I heard bad things about it but now I haven't heard anything for a few months.

>>51330431
Wouldn't you need mirror gallery because it's legendary?

>>51330429
Ignoring the artifact part of Filigree Familiar, is it a good enough creature to run in recursion decks?
Card draw is neat but the life gain feels so small considering it's CMC 3.

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>>51329867

What commanders do i want to use if i want to play dick ass elves.dec

>>51330492
>hug to avoid taking aggro
Everyone knows what you're doing and they're not falling for it, just go pillowfort to make someone else the path of least resistance

>>51330575
original ezuri

>>51330583
I almost always try and kill the group hug player but im not sure why, why do people hate that playstyle?

>>51330481
I think of it in terms of being sad robot's pet. Gaining 2 life isn't as strong as grabbing a land, true, but it is a rarity level and 1 cmc lower so it shouldn't be as strong.

>>51330478
Yeah, stole it off my opponent's deck. One person in my playgroup runa a pretty oppressive Galina deck, so the other guy put it in as a counterpick.

>>51330601
I dont really have enough elf cards for edh, would that old precon be a good start or just go with singles?

>>51330602
Because they are either not trying to win at all, or are trying to hide that they are playing combo.

>>51330676
the 2014 freyalise precon is a pretty good start for an elfball deck. there are articles about upgrading it too.

>>51330583
I guess more experienced commander players would know what I'm doing, but in my group that deck wins more than it loses. Might try a pillowfort version though.

>>51330602
Because your opponents getting as many free resources as you do and the group hug player usually getting the most resources is not benevolent.
It's also easy to justify when they're sitting across the table with a smug grin on their face as if they're master deceivers.

>>51330693
Nice i'll go check that out. Any reason to go ezuri over other mono green or one of the not mono green elf commanders?

>>51330739
he's just the best at closing out a game after you've established a board. he's a win con in the command zone.

>>51330766
Ah i gotcha. Can his regenerate ability save my board from wipes by the way?

>>51330602
Because group hug players think they are smarter than you. Every time, and when they get butthurt they become kingmakers. I am looking at you Zedruu

>>51330793
Yes, except for a few: Wrath of God, for example, doesn't let you regenerate shit, but Day of Judgment would. It depends on what card is doing the wipe.

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>>51330816
That is pretty good, thanks anon.

>>51330863
It's OK. Regenerate is honestly a bit tricky of a key word to take advantage of: there's a TON of removal that just has "that creature can't be regenerated" stapled on to make it seem better, and of course it's not going to do anything against forced-sacrifice or exile effects. It's better than nothing though.

Is it possible to build a pauper commander deck that can compete with mid tier regular commander decks?

>>51331088
Probably not.

>>51331088
What do you mean by this, there are no common legendary creatures. If you just mean no rares, then yeah. Mana drain is just an uncommon for instance. If you just mean budget, then yeah you can make a synergistic budget deck that's good.

If you mean some sort of made up version of pauper that somehow let's you play a legendary creature but no uncommons then stop being a bitch, and just make your deck budget instead.

>>51331228
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=2997 hmmm

i need a waifu as my next commander, who is a good one?

>>51332222

Atraxa

>>51332222

Sydri, , Damia, Breya

>>51332222
Quints speak, Azami

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>>51329604
>playing in a commander 'for points' league
>it's whatever, people are probably just going to points farm, but maybe i'll get to play commander more often with the people i know at the shop and have some fun
>first round is a pretty normal game
>second round get matched up with satan himself (and someone who's really good at the game)
>the second guy (satan's just our local that guy) plays pili-pala t3, nobody has the removal for it in hand
>t4 rolls around, he plays grand architect
>commander is Thrasios and some other guy who's there for the colors
>he uses his infinite mana to draw all the relevant cards in his library
>loops mindslaver to take over our turns, passes them all to get to turn 6(thereby bypassing the -points for killing someone before then)
>plays solitaire for ten minutes, we can't even concede because you aren't allowed to concede if it would stop someone from getting points
>he does so specifically to abuse the points system because he designed his deck around it.

This is why we can't have nice things.

>>51332691
Points systems are fucking stupid.

>>51332814
I won't disagree.

>>51329666
staff of nin

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>tryhard shows up every week to EDH
>proudly explains he netdecks off of Reddit's "competitive" EDH board
>nether void, gaea's cradle, every dual
>they all look too pristine to be real, but don't wanna be the guy who calls him out on that shit
>draws his hand before anyone has a chance to cut him, then sees consistent t2-3 Necropotence plays
It could all be a coincidence, but goddamn. He's the only one at the store who seems to give a shit about winning.

>>51333305
Get a jewelers loupe and just ask to see his duals one day under the guise of looking at their condition. Then check for pixels with the loupe. Make him fuckin' sweat.

Also, just say "I'd like to cut your deck, it is the rules after all"

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>>51333305 honestly >>51333406 desu fampai. If he's going to insist on playing ultra competetively, then enforce the competitve ruleset on him, ala cutting decks after every shuffle and no allowing replays/take backs.

That, and most of the decks on /r/compedh are really vulnerable to early disruption and green hate.

>>51333447
This. You can find silver bullets in every competitive EDH deck, and a lot of them get their heels cut by early interaction. Since most "Competitive" edh decks are tuned to play against each other, and those decks just goldfish for their combo.

Turn 1-2 Wheel of Fortune makes them screech, I promise you.

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>>51332691
In my experience, the greatest amounts of salt and bullshit are created from Edh leagues. Never again.

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>>51332222

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>>51332222
Easy

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>friend brings over new guy who is looking a group
>new guy asks if its ok that he proxies a few cards that he will eventually buy
>not my call since we were at another's house and he allows it
>every deck the new guy has is the most spike commanders ever made
>spends every turn durdling for 15+ minutes and using proxies of gaea's cradle, mana crypt, metalworker, basically all the cards that aren't exactly cheap
>wins majority of games due to all his metagaming bullshit using said proxies which he, miraculously, draws every game

Next meetup is at my place and I am very reluctant to allow this faggot to play here, should I give him another chance but exnay on his proxies or refuse to play with him anymore?

>>51334174
Did you cut his deck?
I don't give a shit about most proxies, but if people just never fucking buy the cards it gets on my nerves. It's your call, but if you don't like them, just say no proxies.

>>51330766
Jarad is better. Pump two elves to 20. Sac both. ?????? Profit

>>51334174
If you're hosting, just let him know beforehand. It avoids complications before they arise.

>>51334261
Everyone cut his deck even if he didn't present it. The first few games if anyone cut he would stop and individually take apart the deck, seperate it into piles then shuffle the piles in a specific pile. Didn't bother anyone but me because I know how to stack decks with that method. He's a military guy so I doubt he could even afford those proxies in the long run

>>51334336
>The first few games if anyone cut he would stop and individually take apart the deck, seperate it into piles then shuffle the piles in a specific pile.
Illegal. You cannot touch a cut deck after it has been handed back to you except to play from. If you shuffle again, your opponents are entitled to cut again.

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>>51329867

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Will it be banned?

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>>51332691

Fuck your store for not allowing you to just concede

>>51335128
lol no

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What commander has the most style?

>>51335164
the whole time i was just sitting there like, "if i walk up and leave the store, what happens?"

but no, aside from that the store's super cool. Play area's the best in town, too.

>>51335267
Either Gonti or Marchesa

>>51335376
Mardu or grixis marchesa

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So is this guy vehicle.dec?

>>51335395
Queen Marchesa obviously, do you even need to ask?

>>51330114
URIL SMASH

>>51335458
Right now it's the closest you're going to get.

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>>51335567
Pic Related obvious tech

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>>51330114
This guy does whatever the fuck he wants.
https://edhrec.com/commanders/ruhan-of-the-fomori
Also he's in best colors

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Did you guys pick up any nice pimp lately? Got these for my OG Omnath. They we're rotting in a binder at my LGS. Sadly I will never be able to get them signed.

Damn, Purphoros and Ethersworn Canonist put in so much work in my Breya deck tonight.

>>51333305
why would it matter if his cards are proxies

>>51332222
Here's a list of waifuable commanders:
Sydri, Hanna, Drana, Kiku, Thalia, Azami, U Braids, Jaya, Lovisa, Kari Zev, Jeska, Titania, Selvala, Azusa, Dwynen, Melira, Ramirez, Olivia, Radha, Tana, Sisay, Emmara, Jasmine, Ayli, Tesya, Ravos (if you don't mind some boipussy), Tymna, Jhoira, Meren, Savra, Akiri, Kydele, Lady Evangela, Jeleva, Gwendlyn, Mayael, Rubinia, Anafeza, Narset, Queen Marchesa, Yasova, Breya, Atraxa and all godesses. Angels are too pure to be waifued.

Sol ring should be banned.

>>51336527
Why

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>>51329867
Right now I'm bringing frontier, modern, and 5 EDH decks to my LGS for W,U,B,G, and WUBG, which is a little unwieldy, but does let me be prepared to fill whatever role our table needs to ensure a fun game for everyone. But now I'm starting to consider cutting it down to just one or two decks, and keeping my witch-maw array set aside for when I specifically feel like playing one.

>>51336527
Play french commander faggot

>>51330114
Zurgo. Either one.

>>51335583
this is my number one suggestion for new players that have trouble attacking.

You know the kind, those that don't attack because it might hurt someones feelings or they can't be bothered to think through how combat will resolve. Particularely girls.

>>51330462
>Puca
The hell is a puca?

>>51336974
Cemetery Puca
Know your cards nerd.

Obviously it dead, it's in a cemetery.

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How much land hate is too much land hate in boros.

>>51335599
How did you built Omnath? I'm tempted to just shove in all the ramp, dorks, mana doublers and exploration effects i can find but i fear i might find myself with little to no room for big cards to cast with all that mana.

>>51330114
Kalemne. Urzas incubator on soldier, nothing but blood.

>>51330114
Rakdos really has only one way to go, and that is forward. and the pain count going up. and life totals going down.

>>51336527
Mana Crypt should be super banned.

>>51335599
damn, those are straight up gorgeous.

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How's my Maga deck? Do i have too much of some stuff? I was thinking about putting in a couple more recursion cards since i have only 2 (Rise of the Dark Realms and Sheoldred) and 1 that recurs other people's stuff (Grave Betrayal) so 1-2 more recursion cards would be good to put in if i have too much removal or card draw and i have to cut some.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/22-01-17-big-black-deck/

>>51335599
Damn, how much a piece were those babies?

>>51329666
Been running Alhamarret's Archive to some decent success. It won't always draw you a ton of cards but the "worst comes to worst" scenario is it's a 5/5 beater for 5. But with any card draw it'll refill your hand.

Storage Matrix since you'll be playing mostly artifacts.

Winter Orb/Static Orb with Blinkmoth Well/Icy Manipulator/Pacification Array

Portcullis is really good in Karn. Basically just animate artifacts with a creature on the stack and the creature gets trapped under Portcullis.

Also if you're running a lot of Wastes, Extraplanar Lens is pretty good. Basically one sided because no one runs Wastes.

>>51329680
Commander's Sphere can't tap for mana in Karn. Karn has no color identity.

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Another generic Gonti shitposter here, i have some spicy tech but i need to cut some of the cute and bad cards. I already have a competitive edh deck so this doesn't need to be as cutthroat and expensive, but all advice will be heeded to at varying degrees.

>>51338482
I should delete myself
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/steal-your-shit-tribal/

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Best targets for Trophy Mage?

>>51336116
All of the commanders i have are waifus what do i do?

>>51338550
Chromatic Lantern
Cloudstone Curio

hey guys i know this isnt completely EDH related but i just got a raise at work and i want to get some better deck boxes than the shitty 4 dollar ultra pro once. i was looking at either the satin tower or the ultimate guard monolith. does anyone use the monolith and if so is it good enough to justify the extra 4 bucks over the satin tower?

>>51338550
Static orb.

>>51335291
serious tho what happens?
>I concede
>no
>what? OK, then I win?
>no
>then its a draw?
>no
>do a 360 a walk away

If i wanted to run aggro what could i do to keep my board from getting wipped?

>>51338738
M L D
L
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>>51338738

>>51338559
Chose one the be your waifu and drop the rest

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>>51338738

>>51338773
i am convinced this card will go up in price

>>51338550
Sword of Whatyour and Tableisplaying.

>>51338823
Got my sealed promo waiting for that

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>>51337090
I build it just as a big mana/green devotion deck. Genesis Wave, Regal Force, Eldrazi, the works. Biggest challenge of mono green is finding those cards that allow for interaction. Good examples are Caller of the Claw, Chord of Calling or Yeva, Nature's Herald.

Personally not a big fan of mana doublers as they feel win-more. Though the curve is important, I opted for a 2-3-6 one, as Llanowar Elves makes a terrible topdeck.

>>51337840
Store-owner and are acquaintances for over ten years now, so he gave me a pretty good deal at 5 euro a piece when I traded in lots of Modern staples (as that format is blant these days).

He just sits on top of loads of promotional cards from around 2000, like the boxes filled with arena basics or full-art player rewards.

>>51335780
Not the guy you're talking to, but using proxies is okay if you're open about it, or if you're simply bringing your otherwise lackluster deck up to the meta average powerlevel.

It's not okay to use proxies of cards worth hundreds of dollars just so you can mindlessly curb-stomp everybody else and jerk yourself off all over the table.
It's unscrupulous, and honestly just pathetic.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing pathetic about wanting to win. Wanting to win is natural, and sometimes even admirable.
However, MTG isn't a sport. It's just a game.
And when I say "game," I don't mean it's a game in the sense of chess, or Go or even Star Craft.
I mean it's a game like hopscotch, or tag or snap.

MTG does not require grand strategy, cunning tactics or any degree of technical skill. MTG is complicated, but not deep, and any illusion of depth comes from confusing to two.

That doesn't mean you can't try to win. Competing is fun, after all.

If you're printing out cards worth hundreds of dollars while playing against decks worth only 50 bucks, then you are not competing. You're not meeting your opponents on a mutual playing field.

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>>51332222
>I want a waifu for a commander
>can someone pick one for me?
You don't just let random motherfuckers pick a waifu, what's wrong with you?

>>51335780
Because nobody else at the store is playing cards of that caliber? I'd consider it scummy even if they weren't proxies, which they may or may not be.

>>51338997
Damn, I wish my LGS had a collection like that!

>>51339058
yeah but nothing you said had anything to do with proxies. what you should've been saying is "bringing gaea's cradle to a table playing casual jank is wrong" instead of "proxying expensive cards is bad". it doesn't matter if the card is proxied or not, the effect it has on the table is the exact same. if the card is too good to be proxied, it's too good to be played altogether. i'm guessing the reason gaea's cradle isn't banned is because it's 300 bucks, not enough people are playing it to warp the format.

i think proxying is generally good for the health of the game. if proxying wasn't such a taboo then maybe collectors wouldn't have such a stranglehold on this shit game

>>51339186
Collectors only really have a stranglehold on the Reserved List.

>>51339186
But it would be objectively wrong if he played them off as real. And proxies aren't healthy to EDH at all. Do you really want everyone running cradles and nether voids and time twisters and mana crypts and perfect mana bases?

>>51339311
>Do you really want everyone running cradles and nether voids and time twisters and mana crypts and perfect mana bases?

but people already run all those cards. do you think they're too good for edh?

>>51339186
The context of the original post (>>51333305) was that somebody was using overpowered proxies to rape everybody else.
Look at it this way; if the only way an honest player can compete with you is if they spend hundreds of dollars that they probably don't have, then there's a problem with you using proxies. Deceitfully inflating the powerlevel of your deck to something that your meta can't compete with is just a pathetic and egotistical move.

If everybody else is using hundred dollar cards then you're leveling the playing field by using proxies. However, if your proxies are tipping the scales unfairly in your favor, then you're just being a dick.

>>51339359
Most people don't run those cards, because owning them all would cost several thousand dollars. They're very powerful examples, and if proxying a handful of pricy, degenerate cards is given the go-ahead, and at least one person does it, more people are obligated to do so - which would homogenize overall deck diversity.

Would it be "optimal?" Sure, but it would also be less interesting.

Plus, the guy in >>51333305
said he may have used based Chinaman to create proxies he's passing off as real. In a casual format.

>>51339368
yeah but you still haven't explained what exactly makes proxies bad

correct these statements if they're wrong:

>buying expensive, overpowered cards for casual tables is bad
>proxying expensive, overpowered cards for casual tables is also bad

>buying expensive, overpowered cards for tryhard tables is okay
>proxying expensive, overpowered cards for tryhard tables is also okay

there's no functional difference between proxying and buying broken cards. the effect either action has on a typical table is the same. therefore there's no reason to ever bring up proxying as a bad thing, it's only the cards themselves that matter

>>51339410
so do you think cards like "cradles and nether voids and time twisters and mana crypts and perfect mana bases" are too good for EDH or not? you didn't answer my question.

>>51339411
The difference is that "tryhard tables" are a myth created by /r/CompetitiveEDH to propagate their shit format.

>>51335458
I made one. Its fun at first, but then people realize that he is a threat and before you know it he is costing 10+ mana, and since your deck is built around him, youre defenseless.

>>51339411
If he was using legitimate cards then >>51333305 would have little judicial grounds to shame him for his actions. His conduct would still be unpleasant and pathetic, but it wouldn't be outright immoral because it lacks the elements of deceit and conspiracy.

If the faggot was using proxies then there's something tangibly wrong about his conduct that Anon can call him out on. If he's not using proxies, then Anon can only call him out for being an pathetic faggot, which lacks the same oomph or objective certainty.

>>51339496
why is proxying deceitful? is it cheating?

>>51339511
Yes, you get thrown out of any sanctioned event for it. If you don't own the card, you're submitting an illegal deck in regards to the comprehensive rules.

If YOU allow proxies, that's fine, but Wizards doesn't even support in a casual format.

>>51339496
>legitimate cards
What?
>deceit
I don't think anybody's talking about proxying cards without telling their playgroup that they're proxies.
>conspiracy
A conspiracy by definition requires more than one person. Are you suggesting that a playgroup that allows proxies is guilty of conspiracy?

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>New guy at my LGS last week, seems cool
>Playing warmup game before the event actually starts
>New guy is playing Norin
>Quickly becomes apparent he's playing a >$2000 chaos deck
>Thieves Auction, Scrambleverse, Possibility Storm, Grip of Chaos, etc
>Ask him if he actually has win conditions
>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>I get him in my pod for the event
>Tunnel the fuck out of him

BAN BORED VINTAGE PLAYERS FROM EDH

>>51320531

Latest reply ever

I'm not spending a single cent, I slightly modified my 8 1/2 tails deck with all the white bullshit I've been collecting over the years

Sounds like a shitty format too but it's the nearest thing to EDH I have around

>>51335458
The dwarf pilot legend actually Buffs vehicles, can scry your deck and put vehicles in your hand, and has access to both permeant crew auras. I literally don't understand why you would take macar over her.

>>51339529
edh has no sanctioned events

can you explain what makes a proxy gaea's cradle more difficult to play against than a bought gaea's cradle?

>>51338575
Watch the professor's review on the monolith

>>51339511
Because you're telling that your cards were created in a Wizards of the Cost factory, while they were actually created in some other Chinese factory. What you are telling them is contrary to reality.

You see, when you say something that isn't true, then you are lying. Lying is not good. It is bad. It's bad to tell a lie.

Mate, this is some pretty basic shit here.

>>51339532
>I don't think anybody's talking about proxying cards without telling their playgroup that they're proxies.
But the original post in this conversation is literally about Anon suspecting somebody of lying about their supposedly non-proxy cards. Here:>>51333305

>A conspiracy by definition requires more than one person.
Mate, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Replace "conspiracy" with "subterfuge."

>>51334336
He just be legimimately autistic.

>>51339588
do you even know what a proxy is lmfao

the purpose of a proxy is to denote a card created by wotc. you could even argue that cards created by wotc are proxies since they're often errata'd after they're made.for example, animar cannot create 0/0s even though the card says you can, and that's because the text/art/cardboard on the cards themselves is meaningless, the only thing that matters is that the card states which magic card it is, and what wotc thinks that card does on gatherer

>>51339588
>Mate, I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Replace "conspiracy" with "subterfuge."
You're using semantics to pad your argument and make it sound more substantial than it actually is, though. "Subterfuge" and "deceit" are synonyms. I'll argue those semantics.

Another question of semantics I think is important here: distinguishing between "proxying" and "counterfeiting." To "proxy" a card is to use a facsimile of a real one as a practical stand in in your deck. In my play group for example I make shitty drawings on note cards and put them in sleeves with basic lands to represent cards I have in the mail. "Counterfeiting" is passing off facsimiles as real cards. Your problem isn't with "proxying," it's with "counterfeiting," correct?

>>51339638
>animar
meant marath by the way

>>51339638
>>51339667
Sorry, I'm talking about Chinese counterfeits designed to fool people into thinking that they are the original cards produced by WotC, rather than mere substitutions. My mistake.

>>51339699
I'm actually glad of those counterfeits. I wish more people played with them

>>51339568
Because when he untaps he kills stuff and generates an artifact so you design an artifact deck with a vehicle subtheme and use him to crew stuff.

>>51339411
There's also no functional difference between a real $20 bill and a counterfeit one.

>>51339772
>>51339568
also monoblack is about 30 times better as a color than boros

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>>51339432
I'll answer for him, 'cause there are two guys at my LGS with thousand dollar decks.

One of them has a 5-color Scion of the Ur-Dragon deck. It's got Candelabra, Forcefield, Mana Drain, every dual, every fetch, and a shitton more.

It's also a dragon tribal voltron deck.

The other guy netdecks for "competitive" builds that can win turn 2+ and easily pubstomps our casual group.

Both are running very expensive decks.

One should not be allowed to use expensive cards.

>>51339781
okay i see we are now in the retarded analogy territory

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Hello EDH General.
I've been playing MTG for about 3 years now, but only recently looked into EDH.
I decided to make a budget deck as my first deck just to test the waters and get to know the format, so the cheaper the better.
I settled for Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs and plan on making a pillowfort/controllish deck.
But since I'm completely new to the format, I'm not sure what are the essentials for an EDH deck. So that's my question: what are the essential cards to have in a mono-red deck?
Remember that I'm on a budget so ideally I wouldn't want cards that cost more than $5, but please reccomend them anyway if you think they are essential.

Thanks in advance, and one last question: where my mono-red niggas at?

>>51339840
Mono-red pillowfort is hard on a budget. Things like Ensnaring Bridge are good, but I don't know if that's in you price range for cards.

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Post your hottest tech

>>51339807
Both are breaking rules by trying to present something fake as real. The only difference is the consequences if you get caught.

>>51339840
I've seen faithless looting in a lot of red decks

>>51339899
What can you fetch with this?

>>51339789
And you can also call him King "Nascar"
It's also implied he's really fucking rich so makes sense for him to drive expensive sport cars

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>>51339946
For starters, pic related

>>51339946
any 3 mana creature

>>51339978
4 mana creatures

>>51339989
thats what i said

>>51339978
>wrong AND unhelpful
what a useless reply

>>51339946
In something like Meren or Savra it doesn't even matter what your grabbing.

>>51339946
Jarad
BUG Sidisi
>>51339972
Gisa&Geralf
All the Incarnations

and that's just stuff in my Reanimator

>>51339934
kill yourself

>>51337062

never enough

>>51339934
Hey, Anon, you know what else is "fake" in that it's artificially created? The password to your bank account.

You wouldn't mind sharing it, would you? After all, you seem to agree with me that fake things don't have any value, and I have some magic cards to buy.

>>51339897
By "pillowfort" I'm mainly thinking of having Kazuul and some defensive creatures out and effects that make creatures attack each turn if possible, and (hopefully) force opponents to attack each other since they are easier targets.
The control aspect of the deck would come through enchantments and artifacts that fuck with people, such as Tectonic Instability, Price Of Glory, Manabarbs, Spellshock, Uba Mask, Angel's Trumpet, etc.

>>51340081
Sure it's upyourskid.

>>51339946
Cypt Ghast, Disciple of Bolas, Phyrexian Obliterator, Erebos, Falkenrath Noble, Filth, Hell's Caretaker, Korlash, Mindslicer, Magus of the Abyss, Necrotic Ooze. And that's only black creatures, you can tutor for a lot of useful creatures at cmc 4.

>>51339840
Fuymiko the LowBlooded
War's Toll
Manabarbs

Mono Red doesn't have the best options for Pillowforting and is better at punishing plays.
The real pillowfort staples are in White so if you want to really commit to it consider R/W/x commanders.

>>51340443
Thanks for the response and I'm aware of those cards and that red has good punishing effects, I'm certainly aiming at that. I've explained the deck's direction better here >>51340088

What I'm asking is what are cards that are necessary to have regardless of a deck's strategy? I assume, for example, that board wipes and artifact destruction are two things that are vital for most EDH decks, am I correct? What would be the best options for red? These are the kinds of suggestions I'm looking for.

>>51340556

You'll find a lot of staples in edhrec https://edhrec.com/commanders/kazuul-tyrant-of-the-cliffs

It's not a site you should use to build a deck, but it's a good start to get the core of one

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>>51339791
>One should not be allowed to use expensive cards.

Boy, it sure must suck to be poor...

and also a scrub. If your group's decks depend on expensive mana bases, there are tons of ways to punish that. Unless of course, you also think EDH should not have land destruction.

tl;dr: git gud, kid.

>>51340556
>two things that are vital for most EDH decks
I would say Lands and Winconditions but I'm a simple man.

To answer your question

Shatterspree
Vandal Blast
Mizzium Mortars
Blasphemous Act

>>51340685
>git gud
>t1 crypt tropical island timetwister :^)
Haha XD

>>51339772
The average crew cost is 3 to
My memory, but I see your point I guess.

>>51340619
Yes, I've been looking at that site to get some ideas.
Maybe I'm just being too paranoid about having my deck be perfectly tuned. I'll post the list soon and ask your opinions on it.

>>51340731
>6CMC to get rid of medium sized threats at sorcery speed
>vital for most EDH decks

Really?

I'm thinking of building Karona, what direction should I go?

>>51340986
Here we go: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kazuul-budget-of-the-cliffs/
Opinions? I think I have too many mana rocks...

>>51340893
>proceeds to get dildozed by the other 3 players

:^)

>>51339058
>MTG does not require grand strategy, cunning tactics or any degree of technical skill. MTG is complicated, but not deep, and any illusion of depth comes from confusing to two.

This is straight bullsht though. The technical depth of Magic comes from understanding probability, cost-benefit analysis, and being able to maximize efficiency. Bluffing and altering lines of play on the fly is also a major aspect of high level play. A lot of the skills that come from top tier magic apply to games like Go, Chess and Poker; there's a reason a lot of the pros make large sums of money at the gaming tables in Vegas.

>>51336794
>play french commander
It may not have it, but I doubt anyone who complains about sol ring would enjoy French which has turned into Singleton Legacy the Format since becoming a 20 life format.

>>51341366
Star Compass seems shit, between Orbs of Warding and Witchbane Orb I would keep just the first. Also you could habe some goad stuff, Grenzo, Besmirch, they're p cheap iirc.

>>51340942
Well there are plenty of ways to make your guy bigger

>>51341572
Yeah, you put your hand around it and pull it up and down until white goo comes out.

>>51341538
Thanks for the suggestions, the deck surely still needs tuning. But does the deck look decent overall? Does it look functional? That's my primary concern.

>>51332691
One of my stores does a point sheet type deal and they award 2 points to each player who loses without conceding as oppose to just flat out not allowing it. It also keeps the player who wins from getting too far ahead in points since the points are just for store credit and you also get a pack for each pod you win.

>>51341694
I have little experience with monoRed (I'm also building one at the moment but it's a split of Grenzo and Feldon). I think the main worry is having all those forced attack effects that could come at you, that's why I suggested goad.

>>51339547
None of the cards you listed are expensive, and a chaos player can be fun. Also, maybe he just didn't want to say what his wincon was? I know I'm not going to be telling you "OH BY THE WAY THIS CARD'S PART OF A COMBO YOU BETTER KILL IT."

How do you deal with having shared cards between your decks?
Do you jsut buy another copy?
What if it's an expensive card like fetches or staples like Vampiric Tutor or Sylvan Library?

>>51339579
It's annoying if the rest of the table isn't playing with proxies. If I build a deck, I build it with cards I have or get the cards I need. Any idiot can print out a deck they can't afford and combo off T3.

>>51341754
>I think the main worry is having all those forced attack effects that could come at you
That's a reasonable concern, I'll have to look into making me more of an undesirable target besides only Kazuul. Thanks for help.

>>51341833
any idiot can buy a deck and combo off t3

whats your point

poorfags not allowed to combo off?

>>51341827
I have a couple decks that are the same color combo, so they share the mana base and a handful of staples since they're sharing cards anyway. I just put them in the same color sleeves and swap the cards out as needed.

>>51339840
Smoke
Mannichi the Fevered Dream
Mudslide

>>51341970
But that's just the thing, any idiot can't. Despite all the "Must suck to be poor looool" comments that'll follow, I highly doubt anybody posting on 4chan has the money to just go out and buy a $2,000 commander deck. If you actually own the cards, by all means play with them. If you don't, stop being a whiny bitch and learn to play well with what you have or can get. I'm up to 17 commander decks, all of them pretty budget and all extremely good. I don't need to print out original duals and Gaea's Cradles I don't own and don't intend to buy to spew out infinite mana with Experiment Kraj and draw my deck. Nobody else needs to either.

>>51341827
I have a little pile of expensive cards that I don't want to buy again but run multiple of in different decks.

In the decks themselves I just put a basic land with a proxy over it in the deck's sleeve, but when I play it I take the real card from the pile and put it on the battlefield instead.

If people bitch about them I juat say that I could also meticulously swap cards between decks if I want to switch decks, but that'd just take long.

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>>51329604
Too expensive to run or fun enough to look over that?

>>51342252
Way too situational and overcosted to be useable to me.

>>51339547
What do you mean by "Tunnel?"

>>51342422
Tunnel vision. Only going after him.

>>51342542
Oh. Yeah, I have those moments. Norin Chaos sounds like a good deck to do that with.

>>51332691
>>51341713

Wouldn't it be so much better to have a commander league where prize support is minimal and participation-based? Play in the league, get a pack at the end of the "season". Be one of the top participators? Get an extra pack. Introduce a new player to EDH/loan out your decks a certain number of players during league games, get a pack..

Ensure that there aren't any rewards for winning more, just for playing more. Record results based on decks, not player (say that Anon doesn't play a lot, but loans his deck out a lot- whoever plays that deck gets credit for playing in the league, but on the results/rankings, it's the deck itself).

Essentially, you're trying to maintain a healthy meta by encouraging people to play often, come to the store, and be friendly with each other, rather than winning more. Of course it has different problems than actual leagues, but it seems nice on paper.

>>51342063
i don't proxy cards either, i just think it's bordering on mental illness to think that proxying gaea's cradle is bad but playing a legit one is okay

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Is the pure value afforded by this card simply not good enough for the format?

>>51342569
Yeah, it happens a lot to me since we have 2 people (husband and wife) who kingmake like hell. So I always find myself trying to kill one if them so I can play Magic and not politics.

>>51342647
6 mana "value" is kinda bad.
You should be winning the game with that much, or setting up a win.

>>51342654
Fuckers. Kingmakers are the worst.

>>51342573
So you're okay with someone proxying gaea's cradle, forcefield, candelabra, the abyss, nether void, invoke prejudice, chains of mephistopheles, timetwister and other such expensive powerhouses to make a pubstomp deck they could never afford?

Would you have fun playing with that person?

And yes, if they actually owned the cards then it still would be boring to play against them, but at least they're not some lazy faggot that is just playing edh to stomp on other people while they are too poor to even buy the cards.

Also, if you can't understand that people who actually pay for cards dislike it when people just print ugly versions and never buy the real deal, then you must be autistic. You wouldn't understand basic emotions after all.

>>51342679
What's a kingmaker? Someone who teams up with someone to make them the strongest player, and then stabs them in the back?

>>51342647
Only if you meta is not high powered.

>>51342720
No, Kingmaker is "I'm gonna give up on all chances of winning now and arbitrarily help some other guy against my own best interests so that I at least get to help decide who wins the game, even if I don't win myself." It's dumb.

>>51342252
Depends on your playgroup. Mine just twiddled their thumbs when the Maelstrom Wanderer player dropped this because non-creature removal is apparently too much for them to grasp.

It's a fun card if you can protect it/your opponents don't IMMEDIATELY try to destroy it. Rhystic Study is probably better in both cases though.

>>51342572
In terms of ranking decks, give them a point or two for winning, a point for each player they dealt the finishing blow to personally, and a point for surviving to a certain point in the game. In that way:
>Someone wins via "win the game" cards excluding Hedron Alignment, their deck is awarded a single point. Additionally, two-card infinite combos award a single point.
>Someone wins via infinite combo (any combo which, once started, is infinitely self-perpetuating, generates arbitrarily large anything, etc), has at least three "pieces" to the combo: The deck earns 2 points.
>Winning the game with a non-infinite combo or other means earns three points for victory.
>Defeating a player via commander damage is worth 1 point. Defeating another player with damage in general is also worth 1 point.
>Defeating more than one player in a game via damage is worth an additional point.
>One point is awarded to each deck still in the game when only 2 players remain.

...And so on, I'm not making an entire list because it doesn't matter what I write, there's always a way to break it. I might try to write something up if anyone is genuinely interested, but at the end of the day, all I'm trying to do is codify the points system for deck ranking, something that would theoretically not be worth any packs anyway.

>>51340133
GOT EEEEM

>>51342686
>>So you're okay with someone proxying gaea's cradle, forcefield, candelabra, the abyss, nether void, invoke prejudice, chains of mephistopheles, timetwister and other such expensive powerhouses to make a pubstomp deck they could never afford?

sure why not. i don't see why "afford" should come into it. it's fun to test new stuff, not everyone wants to invest 300 dollars to "test" gaea's cradle

>Would you have fun playing with that person?

fuck no, but i wouldn't have fun if the cards were real either

>And yes, if they actually owned the cards then it still would be boring to play against them, but at least they're not some lazy faggot that is just playing edh to stomp on other people while they are too poor to even buy the cards.

so if i was some trust fund kid who hasn't worked a day in his life, and i netdecked and bought some 3000 dollar hermit druid meme deck, wouldn't i be a lazy faggot? people like that exist.

>Also, if you can't understand that people who actually pay for cards dislike it when people just print ugly versions and never buy the real deal, then you must be autistic. You wouldn't understand basic emotions after all.

i don't proxy cards because i think proxies are ugly and i like owning real cards. however, some cards are just in dire need of reprints and wotc are too busy sucking collector dick to fix that, so i'd be totally fine if someone wanted to proxy some older stuff

>>51330377
Myr battlesphere can win the game in 2 turns if unchecked, or if mechanized production is flashed in

>>51330294
Try a G elves list with sylvalla she powers out lots of shit, and provides a sort of card advantage engine on her own.

>>51338773
>>51338823
if only there was some way of recurring it, like on some sort of Stick

>>51343450
Nobody's talking about testing. We're talking about people who proxy decks and then call it a day.

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>>51329867

>>51343978
Is there anything that Isochron Sceptre can't do? It's one of the most versatile cards in commander

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>>51329867

>>51344343
Kongming, "Sleeping Dragon" or Mikaeus, the Lunarch seem like acceptable Pianna replacements to me.

>>51344394
>sister
I-is she hot?

Also, why didn't you like Wort? She's mai waifu.

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>>51344343
>>51344644
Or he can get himself a goddamn Elesh Norn.

>>51344695
True. I'm surprised I missed that. Fuck, I'm dumb.

>>51344658
>is she hot
hahaha fuck no. i'm the pretty one in the family.

my wort deck sucked so it's more of a "back to basics". When my wort deck worked it was fucking spectacular to play. I did so much dumb shit. But she was so wildly inconsistent, and most of the time she didn't do anything. So I'm buying a few cards for her and just playing with Krenko in charge in the meantime. It's been fun.

>>51344394
>gwaffy h, 100% baller
You gotta have a list for that on TapperOut, right? Also, I'm curious about Scumfuck, but that's because Xenagod is my premiere Commander and I love exploring any and all builds for it.

>>51344738
>i'm the pretty one in the family.
prove it

>>51344756
TappedOut*

>>51344756
not for Gwaffy. I just built him so he's kinda crappy. I'm just stacking Ghostly Prison effects and exiling everything atm.

here's Xenagod though. He's easily my most consistent deck.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/scumfxxk-ii/

>>51344760
take my word for it. i'm ruggedly good looking. i'm a red player, we're all handsome as fuck.

>>51344831
>i'm a red player, we're all handsome as fuck.
this I can agree with

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>>51344644
>>51344695
thanks bro

>>51344848
Huehuehue

Also a bit of help with me deck, running RB chaos with a few infinite combos for win cons, but it's not like I get them out in like 2-3 turns(unless I god draw of course), I usually get them out end game, so I wanted to know of ways/cards, besides boardewipes, not to get fucked by ezuri elf tribal aggro, or basically not get shoved in by creatures

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>>51335599
I am a sucker for promos. Fortunately a lot of them are pretty cheap right now.

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>>51345067
Like >>51334926 mentioned: Kulrath Knight gives Ezuri a decent plowin'.

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You gotta help me /edh/

I've tried and I've tried but I cannot think of any deck to put this card into

>>51345160
Purphoros. Every time Ragavan appears, two damage to each opponent.

>>51345160
She seems like she'd be pretty good in Purphoros decks.

>>51330114
Maelstrom Wanderer.

>>51344831

>i'm a red player, we're all handsome as fuck.
Can confirm.

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>Bloodghast is now over $20
What the fuck? When I was brewing a deck a year ago or so it was only like $8.

>>51345644
Dredge ressugence in Modern in the last year or so I guess.

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Thoughts?

>>51345644
>he's never seen 20 power on board turn 2 in modern
What an awful deck. Even Umezawa's Jitte is more defendable than Dredge.

>>51345741
>getting that out into the game
oh fuck that's hilarious. run it in some politics or group hug deck.

I pulled an arcbound ravager invention.

Should I turn it in at my gamestore for store credit?
I can't think of ever using it.

>>51335267
>>51335376
>>51335395

>Not Frankie Peanuts

>>51345995
Do not sell cards to a game store with the intention of buying more cards from them. You will get much less in return than the other options.


Either throw it up on ebay or go to an event and trade it with a guy who has a great trade binder.

>>51345741
This card is awesome. The secret is to play it and then never activate it, but always act like you're considering it. Keeps people from getting too ambitious.

>>51346186
The store I go to has really good prices
Taken into consideration though

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Looking for some more powerful alternatives to this for the card slot in the GWB variety. I'm usually playing multiple opponents at a time so it's important that the effect remain on the field for at least two turns provided they don't remove it.

>>51345741
My issue with cards like this is that they tend to function as a deterrent more often than you get to use their ability. No one is going to cast any cool spells until they've found a reasonably efficient way to deal with it.

>>51346210
It really depends what your store has in stock. Some stores simply do not have a stock of expensive staples and if they do their condition is usually shit.

Do you know how much your store is willing to offer you for the invention? Stores usually only buy for a very undercutted price.

So it may be better to sell online and buy in store if you want to support your LGS.

>>51346353
The store I go to (Pat's in Austin) has boxes from every block. It's the best.

>>51344695
Norn is supposed to be like 12 feet tall

>>51345741
Absolutely disgusting in Roon.

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>>51346232
The Scroll of Beginnings Incarnations are, I find, criminally underrated. Nylea is also a possibility, but she's pricier, less cool, and more obvious in case people have exile enchantment removal.

>>51346232
Nylea?
Brawn?

>>51346232
Nylea, the God of the Hunt is indestructible.

Brawn gives your creatures trample as long as it is in the graveyard and you have a forest in play.

>>51346396
>>51346409
>>51346430
Wow incarnations are cool, why was I never informed of this

>>51345741
Run it in my Rubinia deck. It makes people SUPER salty.

>>51346396
I feel Incarnations have become less popular due to the increasing amount of GY hate since Meren was introduced.

Genesis was considered a staple but no more.

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If you (as a person) had a keyword, what would it be?

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Any secret tech or spicy spell for Sigarda?

>>51347572
Haste
I'll let you figure out why

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>>51347655
I play her in my w/g hexproof/indestructible deck. Slap a darksteel armor or shielded by faith on her and she's near impossible to get rid of. Avacyn does the same job, though is a bit harder to get on the field.

>>51347723
Should I put Keen Sense or Staff of Nin if I had to choose one over the other?

>>51347572
Probably indestructible or persist

Anyone have any spicy edits for my Derevi deck? Trying to abuse tap/untap and play a birthing pod deck.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/23-12-16-derevi/

>>51347572
Cumulative Upkeep

>>51347572
Exploit

>>51347572
Regenerate

>>51347572
Phasing

>>51347572
phasing

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>>51348033
>>51348036

>>51347866
staff of nin. IMO, sigarda isn't quite as useful on the beatdowns and they can keep chumping to keep you off the card draw, while the staff is more guaranteed, plus you can take care of pesty 1/1 tokens that might otherwise chump.

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>>51346389

>>51347572
it's not a keyword, but a common phrase;
doesn't untap during your untap step.

I'm a lazy fag and I don't do anything without motivation.

>>51347572
Defender or phasing
>>51348058
I don't know what you mean by this

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Has anyone tried brewing with this guy?

>>51348569
The best use I've seen of him yet is as one of the 99 in Experiment Kraj. I don't really see how else you would build him except as a much shittier Rofellos.

>>51348569
Atraxa, obvi.

>>51346455
When did you start playing?

>>51347572
Evolve

>>51348730
Right before Return to Ravnica

>>51348569
he is better in the 99 than as a commander

>>51348791
Yeah incarnations were Odyssey and Lorwyn block, well before your time. There's also Riftstone Portal, which will never have a complete cycle because of lore. Basically, the set before was Torment, which was largely based around the color black (and Chainer going insane). In response, GW as a color combo were boosted the following set. Valor and Genesis are the only incarnations with additional abilities. GW also got an exclusive fetchland, Krosan Verge

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>>51340081
This might just be the most retarded thing I've read today.

>>51349093
Hey, if you think that's bad, try reading the post it's mocking, that one isn't even sarcastic

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Is this spicy tech for mono green?

>>51342252
I run it as an odd one out in Newzuri, just for the hilarity value of getting to play everyone else's spells every turn. For me it's worth it, even if it doesn't complement the deck properly.

>>51349234
For elves, it could be. Seems like a slightly too-steep cost to me, though, and once you draw your Overrun or Craterhoof or whatever your whole board is tapped down. Doing it on an end step might work, but... I dunno, man, seems risky.

>>51349234
It's pretty shit.

>>51342252
It's a fucking bomb in Rashmi, because the spell you cast from their deck counts as your first spell cast that turn.

I've tried adding it to Oloro too, to have something to search for when my Academy Rector dies that isn't too oppressive.

>>51342252
Vile Smasher makes it scarier.

Rashmi makes it valuable.

Sen Triplets makes it a bigger kick in the nuts. Provided she even lives.]

>>51350042
Sorry, /they/ even live.

>>51347572
Fading

I want to build a deck for my friend to use in our casual EDH group that suits his playstyle/interest. I can't decide between Dragon or Elemental tribal with Maelstrom Wanderer at the head. Which one's cooler?

>>51350294
If you think he might go for elemental tribal, you could also go for Horde of Notions. Temur Dragons would be cooler if it were headed by Intet.

>>51350400
Well I asked him and his response was 'Elemental Dragons', because he's a dipshit. But I know the boy loves his chaos/unpredictable cards, which is why I really want to head it with MW. Intet is in my putative 99 though.

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What kind of basic lands should I use in hazezon?

>>51350430
>Well I asked him and his response was 'Elemental Dragons'
Has he ever played Magic: the Gathering before? That might be a good place to start.

>>51350656
>>51350656
>>51350656
>>51350656

Anyone got mono blue group hug cards to go with my Braids Deck i want to buff all my friends but be able to shutdown whoever gets out of control with it

>>51350663
He's played a lot, and still uses a Werewolf Tribal deck from OG Innistrad in our kitchen table matches. He's just a pain to get any useful information out of.