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AdMech grills > Chaos grills

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>>51308729
Khorne = Tzeentch > Slaanesh > Nurgle

>>51308749
>all that extra flesh
disgusting

hey guardfag here, in case anyone wanted this I did all the mathhammer for probabilities on all the imperial guards heavy weapons against vehicles to show what did well against what

theres a lot of fun numbers to crunch through but basically for its points Multilasers do best againt AV10, autocannons do best against everything else except for av14 since you can field 2 ACs for every LC you run

im sure other people with way better skills in formatting have done this before but i made it myself for a project im working on so i thought id share.

Its still obviously WIP but here yall go: zsyvbzc

put that in tinyurl

>but what about chances to pin?
just add 1 to the AV
>what about with tank hunter or re-rolling 1s
fuck you my autism only goes so far in one night

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>>51308749
God emperor fearing imperial grils > All other grills

Off to a great start today

>Orks
>melee race
>s3 i2 w1 6+sv
New codex when.

>>51308749
I can't unsee the round part on her hands being speakers and receivers

You literally have to "Talk to the hand" to talk to her.

>>51308776
8th ed

>>51308749
>useless fleshbags that do nothing to venerate the machine god

>showing off flesh instead of replacing it with glorious machinery

3/10 would not want to join for a sermon

>You can now charge out of any transport, however, in order to do this, the unit must disembark before any moves taken by the transport, and the transport cannot naturally move in the movement phase after this (To represent the disembarking process.)

Any pre-existing way of charging from vehicles (assault ramp, open-topped etc.) removes this restriction.

Thoughts?

>>51308822
We rhino rush now

>>51308803
You mean Age of the Emperor?

>>51308822
get of 4chan and fuck off back to baal Dante

I can't tell if AoEfags are just salty WHFB fans or not

>>51308892
they'er just mad that 40k is too profitable to AoS, its natural to want people to join in on the misery

>>51308869
>Cadians getting squatted
>Eldar being combined in to one force
ITS HAPPENING

AGE OF THE EMPEROR.

>>51308914
So, Nurgle?

Deathwatch are broken now, the FAQ confirmed their shittyness.

Inferior to regular marines in every way

>>51308842
Yeah, Grav-cannons in free Rhinos is definitely the healthier state for the meta.

>>51308932
INB4 the souls of the dead Cadian 8th are resurrected into suits of armour led by super powered Creed.

We Warpstormcast Eternals now.

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They made Maulerfiends work. They didn't answer my previous question about "multiple boons from killing multiple characters at the same time" that I had though. (My Lord managed to kill 2 Arena Champs, a Solarite, and a Sybarite with a Sunburst, so had to make 8 rolls for Champion of Chaos)

>>51308729
This twitch stream man, no one remembers half of abaddons rules because they're tied up in the marks.

>>51308958
No shit? What happened?

>>51309084
Can't take shotguns & bolters.

>>51309037
kill a character get a boon, kill 2 characters get 2 boons

>>51309084
Can't cheese out a Blackshield with a Heavy Thunderhammer

Shitties couldn't read when it said one VETERAN and were like "HE WAS A VET WHEN HE BOUGHT THE HAMMER"

>If GW wanted Blackshields / Sergeants to have taken the Heavy Hammer it would've said one MODEL

>>51309037
>Made maulerfiends work
?

>>51309161
They only need to hit with one attack now to get the additional S8 Ap1 armourbane attack and get 2 if all hit.

>>51309105
Favored Scions lets you roll twice for Boons, and pick one or both.

>>51309203
Where does it say that? Is this a new FAQ or is it in the final draft on their evsite? And did they keep the buff where they can hit the unit rather than a previously hit model with their magma cutters?

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>>51308729
Ork list isn't actually all that bad, they might actually stand a chance here.

Squiggoth is going down to grav turn 1 though.

>>51308749
Admech grills < Dark Mechanicum grills.

>>51309273
Final draft
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/20/faqs-for-every-codex-live-now/,

Things that are actually changes and not actually FAQs are marked in magenta. And there are a LOT of those in Chaos.

And yeah, they hit the unit, not the model.

>>51309223
ohh, that's nice! so 8 boons then if ya want and if you get d3 per boon it's even more! high chance of turning into a prince or spawn though

>>51309292
are these the competitive armies?

>>51309296
Dark mech girls are just dino bots anon.

>>51308729
if i give a pathfinder shas'ui a blacksun filter does he give ignore night fighting to his entire unit or just himself?

>>51309303
They might as well have saved time and just written a single "NO" in the Orks.

>>51309292
>Grav cannon against Orks.

I don't have a reaction image confused enough for this situation. I mean, sure, there are some units with 4+ or better, but they aren't exactly the majority.

>>51309334
Might as well be a pic of a middle finger, or maybe a dick

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>>51309326
No

>>51309303
>>51309334
HAH.

Trukks confirmed for best anti-knight weapon in the game:

Q: Can a grabbin’ klaw stop a Super-heavy Walker from
moving and hence prevent it from charging?
A: Yes.

>>51309349
>I don't have a reaction image confused enough for this situation.
Maybe he's not a tailoring cunt?

>>51309326
Haha no

>>51309349
The bolter nipples will still allow them to make their points back against footslogging boyz.

>>51309303
404 wat?

>>51309326
Worst army vs. Worst version of best army

>>51309303
They still have to hit every model to get the two attacks, anon.

Also, they forgot to add that bit to the Khorne Daemonkin errata, annoyingly enough.

>>51309361
There's not tailoring and then there is just bizarre picks, I mean, Centurions aren't exactly cricket when used against Orks but the grav is like a purposeful way of making them less effective.

>>51309409
Well if he used hurricane Bolter/Heavy bolter he would be tailoring, and Lascannons are even worse than grav

>>51309303
>fail mob rule with a result of 4-6, fight breaks out in mob
>"shouldn't the hits be at strength 3 rather than strength 4, as that is the base strength of the boyz?"
>No, they're really fired up! ;^)

When do we WAAAGH! GW's offices?

>>51309382
I slightly pooped the link, copy it without the comma on the end. Sorry anon.

>>51309084
>>51309093
>>51309128

All Dedicated transport removed, you'll have to jimmy rig them by using detachements

>>51309409
There's likely a wysiwyg rule on the streamed games and the other weapon options may as well not exist.

>>51309446
Jimmy rig? Is that an American thing? I've only ever use Jerry rig

What as a space marine player do I bring against eldar? my first game against them coming up soon im thinking sternguard and librarians

>>51309446
I find it hard to believe that Deathwatch can't take their own transport flyer or drop pods as dedicated transports, anon.

Looking over the Faq, it seems like Helbrutes got a 5 point pricedrop as well as the extra 2 Dreadnought attacks.

Does this make them more worthwhile?

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r8 my list.

>>51309468
Iron clad with double heavy flamers in drop pods.
Sternguard in drop pods with combi-meltas.
Dev squads with double grav-cannons in rhinos.
Tacticals with plasma guns in assault cannon razorbacks.
Dev centurions with grav-cannons.
Anything bikes.

>>51309655
>32 models at 2k

even grey knights will out number you

>>51309446
Jury-Rig is repaired with what is at hand.
Like Ork vehicles
Jerry-Built is made from bad materials.
Like Finecast

>>51309702
I really just don't know how to bump up that model count. Tsons are a personal favorite of mine but I'm struggling to get them to work on the tabletop.

>>51309468
>sternguard and librarians

This isn't 5th Edition. You're going to get raped.

>>51309619
They've had that for a while now. They still aren't great, but if you take them in one of the Dataslate: Helbrutes formations they're pretty fun.

>>51309467

It's jerry-built and jury-rigged.

>>51309753
Librarians are really good, especially with the new powers.

Sternguard just seem like overpriced tactical squads to me, they're all about their bolters with their special ammo but you don't use bolters to really do damage when you want it.

>>51309323
I don't believe it would be for D3 boons. The way it's worded, you only get the bonus roll as a result of Champion of Chaos (meaning you slay a character). The FAQ just clarified (it's in the base rules otherwise) that it doesn't matter how you kill an enemy character, as long as it's not Sweeping Advance.

The question I asked GW was:
Suppose of those 8 results, one of them was Dark Apotheosis. Do I pick the results simultaneously, meaning can I theoretically get a prince who then gets 7 other boons? In-game, I chose not to use that result as it was a grey area of the rules.

The second question I have is: Suppose I use Life Leech from Biomancy (heal a wound for each unsaved wound inflicted), kill a Sergeant, then roll Bloated for my Boon (heal all wounds, or gain +1 wound max if already at full wounds). Do I choose the order in which both apply?

This one is theoretical though, as I just use Psychic Shriek as my main witchfire. There's something funny about my Sorcerer healing from hitting the enemy, necromancy and all.

>>51309439
If you pay me the plane ticket to U.K. I'll help

I'm pretty much immune to tear gas at this point. Thanks third world anti riot police!

When you have to cross the street to continue working but there is a riot in the city. You just cross the damn street. Punch the cop and punch the rioters and do your damn job.

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>>51309292
That Black Templars list is neither good nor is it fluffy.

That thing fails on pretty much all fronts.

What the fuck is that captcha?

>>51309786
Jesus, what kind of third world shithole do you live in?
Detroit?

>>51309782
not d3 boons sorry. i meant 64 - Roll another d3+1 on this table (re-rolling Spawnhood and Daemon Prince results). though that also has the same problem

you could get a prince but he wouldn't get any boons since he drops all his wargear/gifts/etc when he ascends

i believe you finish the power before the boon so you would end up with +1 wound

>>51309742
use less 1k sons, maybe a squad at most. if you use magnus he's gonna need a list built around him

>>51309826
Nah just Chile. There was a year that we had riots once every week. It was like the weather. Sunny with a chance of protest and tear gas.

Funny how water canon and tear gas went from painful to just annoying.

On all that mess not a single bullet was fired. Even when police got wounded. We where horrified when a policewoman draw her gun when she got trapped by a mob

>>51309439
I suggested it months ago when they Ghazghkull "update" did nothing.

That said, attack storefronts instead, they are all over and visible to customers.

>>51309292
I JUST GOT HERE, what did I miss?
Are da boyz winnin' it?!
>that list
Where da transports at?

>>51309875
Missed fuck all really, orks got first blood blowing up a rhino with lootaz and got themselves stuck in a never ending combat with a dreadnought that deepstruck. You got in just in time to get into the assaults.

Is there a tl;dr on fall of Cadia

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>>51308729
I have a question about heavy weapons teams for the Guard. So the 2 models become 1, 2 wound model. I have some heavy weapons teams and they are on one of those bigger bases. I've noticed for older models, like the Steel Legion dudes, they have a single guy carrying the missile launcher. Is that legal since he's not on the bigger base?

If it is legal, would I be able to use one of the missile launcher Cadians on a normal base?

>>51309930
>tl;dr on fall of Cadia
Cadia fell.

>>51309935
GW say that you CAN put models on the bases they came with, but it's common decency to update the Heavy weapon teams to the new bases.

>>51309935
See how he's got a buddy over to the left holding a rocket? Just mount both of them on one big base.

>>51309904
They... appear to be winning?
Lots of shots failing to get past the bikers cover saves but I don't see any squiggoth?

Where are the flashgits?

>>51309935
The way it used to work is that the loader needed to be in base contact with the gunner, if you play it like that it shouldn't be an issue.

>>51309969
But anon how are you gonna forge the narrative with one big base?

>>51309935
well for one
>>51309985
It IS two models still but on two bases.

The rules just say talk to your opponent if not using standard bases.

>>51309986
They're doing not bad right now, depends on his this grimaldus assault works out. Squiggoth is in the top middle of the board and the flash gitz are inside it.

>>51309969
>>51309985
What is that base size? I can order some, but I don't know the size.

>>51309986
Where can I watch this stream?

>>51310016
Fucking Irish "hippeti hobbity shibbety shobbity? Wigga wigga wuzza schaw!"

>>51309967
Not again.

The IG broke many times before, during, and after the planet broke. Remember that Celestine was the only thing that kept the IG morale and spirit for utterly breaking before the might of Chaos. When she lost her light, all despaired.

>>51310052
twitch tv/warhammer

>>51308947
Nurgle loves everyone, you unfaithful cunt

>>51310056
That was the stupidest shit I ever saw.

Cadia is used to face Chaos. Maybe if they mentioned there non Cadian regiments that would be true. But Cadians in Cadia. Facing Chaos? Not a chance.

>>51310052
twitch tv /warhammer

>>51310022
Should be 40mm

>>51310055
He's talking shite anyway, not missing anything.
Also just realised who that Liam is, I've actually played him a few times haha

Hey guys, what's the best R&H killteam? Or guardsmen, if the guardsmen one is far superior?

How do bases work with LoS?

Could I put a sniping mini on a 10cm tall base and say "That's his LoS point :^)"?

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>>51308729

>>51310109
>>51310022
weapon teams are on 60mm

>>51310109
It's much bigger than 40mm, that's terminator sized. Probably 60mm.

>>51310104
The Cadians never faced the full might of Chaos Undivided before. This is practically the first time Abaddon himself landed on the planet.

>>51310109
Didn't expect more outta a BT player.
All the bitterness of Orks and CSM combined with the entitlement of marines.

>>51310056

I actually read Fall of Cadia, word for word, last night. Only a couple regiments broke, and always one at a time, or two to three in the case of the gate falling. The vast majority stood. The 9th even rallied and fought to the last man to make up for their previous retreat. The vast majority of retreats were from conscripts (two of whom fought to the last man and never retreated, like the one shielding the SoB), and the 8th literally never budged from anywhere to the last man, even against Abaddon, and to shield weakened Celestine. They also stayed behind while the planet literally cracked in half so everyone else could evacuate.

When Celestine's light DIMMED, they despaired but didn't retreat, because they were stuck in the fucking nodal cavern. Her light then comes back. And how you can claim they retreat when the planet broke is ridiculous since there were only two things they could do: 1) get blown away/melted by the winds, 2) take cover from the winds only to have their cover such as pylons and tanks blow away too and crush them, 3) hear Greyfax's evacuation message and get to Creed's location.

Cadia stands.

>>51310120
technically yes, but you also draw line of sight TO the model, so you can be seen by everything

also, modeling for advantage is generally frowned upon

>>51310120
And everyone could target your sniper.
You have to base your mini on the base it comes with usually and your opponent can declare it an incorrectly based model.its in the rule book.

>>51310056
Show no fear. Know no pride. For god-emperor I will end your life!

So what how do I mech guard in kill team? All I have is my CCS, 20 guardsmen and 3 chimeras.

>>51309930
Chaos attacks Cadia
Creed is repelling Chaos forces for some time
Ad mech guy finds out that Black Crusades was all about destroying pylons in galaxy
Phalanx is assaulted by Iron Warriors, they get rekt and phalanx appear on Cadia
Imperial Forces on Cadia are fucked, then suddenly Celestine
Tranzyn is on cadia and tell Ad mech guy how to pylon properly, and also realise some of his collection(HH ultrasmurfs, Custode,etc Greyfax included)
Pylons turn ON, all warp presence Fucked
Abaddon VS Celestine, Celestine wounded, Creed charges Abaddon and lost his arm, Abaddon get backstabbed by Celestine
Everybody runs, Cadai is "bombarded" with blackstone fortress wreck and Cadia is fucked
Imperial fleet run from Abaddon but get caught
Imperial forces run from BL on some icy moon, BL is pursuing them
Suddenly eldar are bitchslapping Black Legion and Imperial forces are escaping trough the webway.
THE END
Summary Kell death, Creed Tranzyn new pokemon, Cadia Fucekd, Craftworlders Dark Eldar Harlequins work together to aid Imperium

>>51310182
what are you having issues with?
All of that but the ccs is legal in kill team.

>>51310148
>>51310149
So seeing part of the pole would count as being able to shoot at the mini? Alright.

Didn't plan to do it, was just curious.

>>51308729
I don't think I've ever seen a game of 40k played completely correctly. Never seen it in person, never seen it in a bat rep.

>>51310253
>So seeing part of the pole would count as being able to shoot at the mini? Alright.

Read the rulebook faggot. It literally has a fucking sentence covering this.

>>51310207
Yeah, but what do I put in? What special weapons?

>Want to play Tau
>There's a Tau codex
>Want to play Nids
>There's a Nid Codex
>Want to play Space Marines
>There are two dozen codexes covering a dozen chapters and their subtle differences
Why

>>51310315
$

>>51310315
Not even A dozen.

>>51310315
>Want to play Tau
>There's a Farsight supplement, a codex, two campaign books that weren't fully folded into the newest codex

>>51310332
It makes it pretty hard to comprehensively start, made doubly more confusing by all the supplements, sub-codexes, and forge world rules.
How do I know what's still legal or not?

>>51310022
Just meassured, mine are 64mm

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Will Nids become something more than NPC-tier punch bag in 8e? I wouldn't mind to see them as newbie-friendly army with rules easy enough to fulfill a role of "how to run a high model count army" faction if GW will actually slim down the rules

>>51310315
>want to play Nids
>read the Cruddex
>I dont want to play Nids

>>51310315
First pick one of the four main flavors. Smurfs and Smurf equivalents, Space Yiffs, Dangles or Bangles. That will dictate which books you need. The Smurf equivalents may have different rules but that all use the same books.

>>51310386
>high model count army
They're only Zerg in appearance, you play IG if you want high model count

>>51310386
That's not chibi, its Super Deformed style

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>>51310386
>something more than NPC-tier punch bag
Probably not unless they go full Kerrigan to give them a face.

>>51310315
>Want to play SoB
>Expensive and old metal models
>Digital Codex and Imperial Agents Codex.
>Basically same rules in both
>Special Character doesn't even have AoF
>Is inside another book.
>FW only transport that is decent
>No longer in production

Is like GW has a hate boner against SoB

>>51310315
because marines sell well and are the face of 40k

>>51310365
you don't need to buy all the DLC anon

>>51310386
Ask not GW for a Tyranid update, for they will give you three supplements, all of which are new, and horrifying to use

>>51310461
hate would mean GW actually notices them. they're like that old beat up can of beans at the grocery store. sure it looks terrible and no one will probably buy it but the boss says it's still fine to sell. what? of course he's not gonna buy it when there's perfect not beat up cans on the shelf

>>51310365

This isn't a problem unique to space marines, it's a 6E and 7E problem in general.

In 5E you just had a rulebook and codex: space marines. That was it.

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Neat. Might crack my Necrons back out and run a scarab farm.

Something like, combined arms with 9 Spyders, a unit of 9 scarabs, 12 wraiths and some immortals and a Cryptek.

>>51310449
Oh, I don't mind that Nids are just a huge-ass swarm of planet-fuckers. I like their "unstoppable force of nature" flull but that's just a theory.
Pick their codex and Nids are like
>buuu huu terrible Nids are coming!
>Let them eat two or three planets, then kill their fleet with our plot-Wunderwaffe
>Yeah, we are done with them - let's go fuck something more interesting like Necrons, but remember - there is nothing more scary than Nids!

>>51310461
Immolators are decent

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So I bashed a SM melta with a nade launcher, but it looks really off if you ask me. You guys feel the same?

>>51310716
Face looks ok, but there is something wrong with his gun

>>51310716
>>51310716
It's the paint job.

Edge highlight a bit and put a wash on it.

>>51310739
Good, thats good. I was worried. As for the face, what is wrong? Also I just noticed chipping paint, good thing Im not done with him yet.

>>51310746
I washed him already, actually used a lot of the wash. And yeah, I only based and washed him, I was about to highlight when I notice the gun being somewhat... weird. But I suppose its just me.

>>51310747
Just need more detail, gun looks like a perfectly normal melta from the picture.

>>51310716
Holy fuck the paint is chipping like crazy. Never happened to me before, what do?

>>51309292
>taking 500 points in grav centurions vs orks
>didn't even give them chest weapons

>>51310716
Some people may look at him strangely, what with having the shoulder marking for a very different gun than what he's using.

>>51310803
- Basecoat your model with a proper paint.
- Not use shit-tier paint.

>>51310836
If I had a normal melta-holding arm, I wouldnt have to make one myself.
>>51310846
Basecoated and using citadel paints. Anyway, I`ll go fix him right up.

>>51310716
Pretty good conversion, but I have a feeling you went a bit over with the glue or primer where the two parts meet.
I'd recommend filling any gaps with greenstuff/milliput then filing it down so you get an invisible join between the two parts.

>>51310803
Although yeah, it's likely your primer being the issue.

What special weapons do you guys recommend for a "general purpose" IG veteran squad? They'll be used as a kill team, but I'll probably throw them into actual games as well.

>>51310803
Use official Citadel Paints™

>>51310863
grenade launchers

>>51310827
I'm pretty sure the chest bolters are as standard, but it's a moot point because they're all dead now and did fuck all during the fight.

>>51310827

Grav Centurions need Hurricane Bolter chest guns to damage things that grav can't easily wound. Missiles are not only useless, they are a waste of points.

>>51310863
Grenade Launchers.
They're sub par in one aspect compared to the best in that are (I.e. melta guns for tanks or flamers for infantry) but it can actually threaten everything.

That or plasma guns.

>>51310861
I actually wanted that look, want to fluff it out as my regiment not having enough cogboys around and having to fix their own weapons, this guy being the master of jury rigging.

>>51310803

Use a spray primer before painting. No, Citadel spraypaints are not primers.

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>>51310855

>>51310906
I always primed my dudes with the same primer, but this is the only one who chipped so far.

>>51309869
Know how I know your country sucks?

>>51310056
>this is what chaos fags actually believe
How does it feel knowing your greatest moment in 10000 years was shit on by a loner necron?

>>51310933
They threatened a woman with violence?

>>51310900
That's fair, just be careful making sure the jury rigged stuff looks like it was done by the soldier and not yourself.

>>51308932

Cadians aren't getting squatted?

The Regimental Standard already said "there are thankfully many Cadian regiments fighting all around the galaxy, and seeing as their homeworld has been destroyed, xenos and heretic-purging has risen by 100%! Cadia was a victory!!" or something

>>51310881
>>51310893
The bolters and grav cannons are the same range tho, he could have dropped the pods for the missiles and had 6 small blast templates vs a green tide at range 48

>>51310980
Nothing In 40k is getting squatted, gw is doing well with sales again and 40k is their most popular game. Don't listen to whfb doomsayers that came here to cry about their shelved Bretonnia armies

>>51310993
Assuming I want a small close-combat squad for my Emperor's children army, would I be better off with a basic Chaos Marine squad with close combat gear, or some Noise Marines with the same? The main benefit I see the Noise marines having is a doom siren, but I'm not sure if that's worthwhile.

I plan on just sticking them in a Rhino with a Dirge Caster and having them help distract from other squads and potentially tie up problem units.

>radix of the latin word for "fall" is "cad-"
really makes you think

>>51309037
>>51309655
what list builder is this

>>51311062
see
>>51308729

>>51311038
I don't know how chaos works desu. If your goal is a combat squad I would just weigh value vs point cost. If you feel the regular marines are as capable in combat as the noise marines and cost less then I would take them. But if you think the extra firepower the noise marines have is worth their cost plus they can handle themselves in combat I would take them. A good formula to use for any unit is cheap points + being able to do exactly what you want them to do. In either case I'm not a fan of putting marines on foot where they can be shit down by cheap enemy units

So I ordered some Army Painter paint and it seems REALLY thin. Is this normal? It's taking me several layers to get an even basecoat.

>>51311146
Good.

>>51311146

Yes that's normal.

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This straight up isn't an answer to the question asked, why include it in the FAQ?

>>51311062
Kill yourself

>>51308749
After fucking years in healthcare... whenever I see cyberpunk girl with some sort of port on her belly, I automatically see colostomy patient... fml...

>>51311204
It straight up is. You don't need to deploy all your reserves and can choose when you want to roll to bring them on.

>>51311204
But it did.

What it didn't address is the implicit request to change the rules.

>>51311204
>if these units arrive from reserves after the trygon has arrived, one infantry unit per turn can enter the battlefield from the tunnel rather than the tyranid player's table edge.
Did you read the whole answer?

>>51311245
>and can choose when you want to roll to bring them on.
[citation needed]

In kill team is it better to have a bigger army , few stronger, or a mix of stronger and weaker? I mean at the very least you can have 4 super set up characters but that strikes me as least optimal

>>51311245
>can choose when you want to roll to bring them on.
no you can't

>>51310947
I wanted it to look like it was welded, I think it worked.

>>51311264
>players can choose not to bring on reserves

>>51311267
Take knight. They are best in kill teams.

>>51310941
Trazyn didn't anything of the sort. He helped the Imperials a lot but in the end his efforts were in vain because Abaddon crashed the Blackstone Fortress on Cadia smashing it into two and disabling the Pylons.

Are you one of the idiots who think that the Pylons overloaded?

>>51311274
It literally says in the response you can choose not to bring on reserves

>>51311284
I think he asked for a citation, not repeating your false claim

>>51311300
>players can chose not to deploy some of their units, keeping them in reserves
>doesn't reference modifying the reserve rules in any way, so you still roll
Reading comprehension.

There is some serious lack of chaos or otherwise titties in here however.

>>51311321
I said you still have to roll jack ass

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>>51311323

Agreed anon agreed

>>51309969

Common decency? Do the common decency and buy me the necessary bases required and I'll update my HWTs

>>51311197
>>51311202
I guess that just means I won't have to thin my paints at all? That's neat I suppose. Just means my painting is apparently going to take a long ass time.

>>51311341
but you can't chose to not bring in reserves.

>>51311411
According to that faq yes you can

>>51311430
quote me where it says that, because I quoted the relevant text already

>>51311321
players can chose not to deploy some of their units, keeping them in reserves
>chose not to deploy
>instead put them in reserves
Thats all its saying. its talking about normal reserves.

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I have built a list, pretend that the grey knights are actually exorcists

>>51311472
>pretend that I'm using Grey Knights, who have special rules and wargear unique to them, are a completely different army that actually has rules, and completely different wargear than Grey Knights

Are you retarded?

>>51311496
Only slightly, I am running Grey Knights with the Grey Knights rules but painted as exorcists

>>51311496
>>51311514
To be fair exorcists are pretty much the only SM chapter that could fit as grey knights, the dreadknights are tough to explain though.

>>51311496
>>51311539
The Exorcists are like the GK but not fucking retarded but I like the GK models and the small model count powerful dudes army so I figured I could just paint them up like exorcists and call it a day, I actually wasn't aware that The Exorcists have their own special rules and characters

>>51311257

Yeah, and it didn't address how the rule is meant to be put to use when you can't control when your non-Trygon reserves arrive.

Being forced to have a buncha units stalk on from their table edge because you didn't get a perfect sequence of rolls is stupid.

They didn't even directly request a rules change, just demand to know how that's meant to be functional.

>>51311617
like >>51311252 said
The rule is mechanically functional.
Useful in a game situation on the other hand...

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>>51311472
>tfw want an Eversor in my AdMech army but hate the model

They just made it's mask look so goofy and the pose looks weak as fuck.

>>51311662
I want an Eversor for my IG list but I cant make up fluff behind him. Like, why would an Eversor be ALWAYS deployed with some regiment from some piss-poor world?

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>>51311662
>skeleton man doing acrobatics with a giant gun
>looks weak
I understand goofy, hell thats half the reason I love it but I don't get where you're coming from with "weak"

>>51311662
Just cobble together an even more fierce looking Sicarian Infiltrator and do counts-as. It's what I intend to do.

>>51311695
>hey commissar there's a skeleton man slicing up the enemy, what do?
>you didn't see nothing, and you ain't gonna say nothing less you want to be nothing. got it?

>>51311697
There's literally no reason that an AdMech Forgeworld wouldn't have all manner of unnecessarily specialized killbots of any shape or size. Literally anything can fit in an AdMech army if you can convert well enough.

>>51311760
I mean, I get it that they could get him once, but every battle? Thats my problem with both knights and assasins, I just cant make up the fluff behind them. It is easier with the knights though.

>>51311786
Assassins can be assigned to a campaign, don't think of him assigned to the regiment. He is his own force and he shows up when he's assigned to. He just happens to show up when this army is fighting for whatever reason. He's not fighting for the regiment or anything, he's there because the Assassinorum told him to.

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>>51311821
Hey, thats an actually good one. Thanks, now all I need is to get the paints for an Eversonr and the skill to paint him

I can put my tempestus command squad with my inquisitor as a retinue in the valkyrie? Thanks based gw

>>51311466
I just re read everything plus reserve rules and yes I was wrong. But while we're on the subject why the hell can't you choose to hold stuff back. What kind of master commanders strategy is based off units arriving randomly instead of precisely when you want them. I can understand people being massive faggots and waiting until you're vulnerable to deepstrike, but that's war is it not? Plus purposely holding stuff off the table just puts what you have on the table at a disadvantage.

>>51311821
so it's a tsundere eversor ?

>>51311697
Yeah, I'll probably go with that....actually I could probably do an entire AdMech themed execution force, use a modified Skitarii Ranger with a transuranic arquebus for a Vindicare, some sort of liquid metal, vaguely female shape for Callidus maybe..

And all for less than buying the actual models.

>>51311879
>b-baka commissar its not like I rip and tear for you~

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>>51311786
Eversor assigned to eliminate high-profile military targets in the chaos of battle, just happens to be the battlefront your IG are involved in.

IG command is never told, guardsmen just hear screams and WRRRRRRYYs coming from the enemy battlelines as they engage and find command squads mysteriously torn to pieces.

There, fluffed.

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Hey 40KG need some help picking a image to use as the base for my icon for my army.

I've narrowed it down to three and I will be using the rice paper method. So I just draw the image on the rice paper and rice paper likes inks and paint so it will interact with it well.

I have 3 that I like that I think I can draw again relatively well. This is the first

>>51311938
This. Play it out like a metal gear solid game. No guard alerts, no sign that snake was there, just brutally murdered hq all over the place

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>>51311951
This is number 2
Again my army is a Slaaneshi, Vampire Chaos Marine army.

>>51310941
Im just happy trollzyn b trollin' i might actually read fall of cadia

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>>51311966
Last one. take off her head wings to make her look more vampire and add some blood around her mouth.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12157019

>>51311951
I like this one, the rest feels too weeb for 40k.

>>51311951
>>51311966
>>51312005
You should use something more simple for an army icon. Use the fap bait pictures on your tanks instead, like a pinup girl

>>51311951
care to link me to the rice paper method ? i'm curious now since i'm gonna have to make icons soon as well

>>51312022
Thank you. For your opinion. I know Weeb like the last one might be a hair easier to draw, but at 2 inches tall at most, I shouldn't need to be too...exacting.

>>51312036
Well I'm using a flag as the Icon. My new years Resolution was to actualy do Freehanding and develop those skills.

>>51312048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MX91IVS9Bo

Here you go. She's doing a historical banner, but some idea should work for us.

>>51312067
Flags are good for that kind of stuff too, just not shoulder icons or basic symbols which is what I thought you were wanting to do

>>51312099
No This is for the Icon of Excess that my Biker Squad will carry into battle. Basically Almost like a regimental banner. I was thinking of attaching it to the back of one of the bikes.

>Slaaneshi Biker
>Dark Eldar Reaver
>Eldar Windrider
>Ork Bikerboy
>Necron Tomb Blade

Drag race. Who wins?

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500 points "new army" tournament over the next two weekends, it's a 2 v 2 to help any new players get to know people.

I'm playing BA and my friend is playing Tau, how does my army look? He said blood angels were a quite weak army so I'm worried... and I can't bring any terminators to go with the librarian.

These are our armies.

>>51312169
>no guardsmen running from a commissar with a heavy bolter
Come on, we all know who would have win.

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>>51312169
The Rogue Trader.

>>51312169
Depends. Is the ork's bike red?

>>51312169
>Drag
>race

Slaaneshi biker of course.

>>51312169
Logically, Reavers. Eldar Jetbikes Turboboost further, and Dark Eldar are all about going fast.

>>51312198
"This is fun! You say you guys do this every Wednesday?"

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>>51312169
Maulerfiend as he drags their corpses to the finish line.

>>51312169
The Sponsors and ticket vendors.

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Something new I want to try out with my Deathwing/Ravenwing list and would appreciate some feedback.

The Ravenwing Attack Squadron starts on the table and drives toward the enemy's most valuable target with the Dread dropping behind them.

Second turn the Black Knights outflank with the Librarian going after their termies or equivalent, the Nephilim flies in hunting tanks and the Deathwing Knights and the Master drop within the range of one of the available locator beacons and form up to charge the enemy's HQ next turn.

If the game uses a higher point limit I will include some Deathwing Command squads.

>>51312179
Also, I'm three points under when he's made his army 500 exactly, is this a problem?
Is there any way to fill out those three points?

>>51312179
Its a very elaborate bait.

>>51312120
The first picture would be perfect in that case

>>51312169
Well, Reavers by fluff.

>>51312237
despite what most people with bitch about here, a difference of a few points does not usually ever make a difference.You'll be fine with 497/500 vs 500/500

>>51312237
Well I'm seeing a problem here. You have a heavy flamer in Tactical squad 2. you can't take a heavy weapon till your squad is 10 marines if I remember correctly. So you might have freed up some points switching that to a normal flamer.

>>51312279
No, you can take 1 heavy OR special per five. You get 1 heavy AND one special at 10.

>>51312287
Ahh okay. I haven't played Regular marines since 4th. Back when it was you got a special weapon (a flamer for free or Melta/Plasma at a discount) at 5 and a Heavy at 10 (Missile Launcher for free, all others at a discount)

>>51312248
>>51312212

Yup, Reavers win. Eldar jetbikes are already faster than basically anything else, and Dark Eldar reflexes are ridiculous even by Eldar standards, so they'd get off the line quickest.

>>51312279
hmmm, ok then.

But now I think about a heavy flamer is 10 points?
Remove the heavy flamer and add another marine and that makes it 500 on the nose.

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>>51312179
My 500pts list could beat either of those armies, apply yourself.

>>51311204
How is this a question?
It's clear what it meant in the first place?
The asker is just upset they can't forcibly stagger reserves and are trying to trick GW into giving them a response they like.

>>51312279
>>51312287
>>51312322
I don't think Tacticals can take heavy flamers outside of Blood angels anyway.

>>51312322
Don't listen to me. My Codex Space Marine knowledge was 3 editions out of date. That's changed keep your Heavy flamer.
See this guys response to me.
>>51312287

>>51312346
They can't, technically, but if anyone complains they're a turbofaggot (and stupid, because they COULD be taking a grav cannon instead).

>>51312341

They're most likely asking "Hey without staggered reserves this is fucking useless, are we missing something? Was there a mistake? Does Cruddace just hate us?"

Which honestly, when phrased politely, should be either addressed or not brought up, not answered with feigned ignorance.

>>51312346
>>51312378
I'm playing blood angels...

But do you think swapping the flamer for more tacticals would be the way to go? More guns and bodies?

Hey, any people that have assembled Wulfen: is it possible to use normal Marine torsos? I'm looking at an assembly video and the legs seem weirdly shaped.

>>51312340
Fukken' kek, except not really, the riptide will solo you, take Cawl and 4 grav kataphrons as an allied detachment :^)

>>51312388
I'd take the Heavy Flamer over another marine. Regular bolter dudes aren't that tough and aren't that shooty.

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>>51312412
>the riptide will solo you
>T6, 5W, 5++
>Against 9 BS7 plasma shots with wound re-rolls

lewl no

>>51312536
>range 18"
>laughing fire warriors.wav

What do you guys uses as a palette? A dry ceramic tile? A homemade wet palette? Painter's paper?

>>51312581
A plette...

>>51312417
I second this. Flamers are frightening against troops. There is a reason they were used. You light one of these off and enemies burn. I figure you can probably get about 3 or 4 in one shot with that.

>>51312568
>what is not going first
>what is not being in range
>what is an invulnerable save
>what is jump shoot jump

Weak bait, senpai

>>51312581
A Palette, a cheap $1 for 10 plastic cupped pallet. I do as much as I can with the air brush so I just have to do a little bit of highlight an pick out of details so I don't get to use the pallet much.

>>51312606
Fuck, meant for >>51312536

>>51312568
So you have 2 rounds of shooting rapid fire at them where they get their armour and their 6+ FNP, before they close in with their Assault 3 rad guns which do 2 wounds on a 6 and Assault 3 Plasma guns at BS7/6/5 then they can choose to charge in which you would be WS2 T2.

>>51312568
>What is Scout & Crusader

>>51312606
>Implying hinging your entire list on a single model isn't the bait

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>>51308819
Know that Man by itself is also a machine. Pistons, levers, switches, tubes, circuitry, chassis, motors, cogitator ; the form of man has every function of the machine and man's understanding of the machine comes from his knowledge of the body.

The form and function of man is the source of all machine. Through Us, The machine god could find form. You would do well to remember this brother.

Lina Wattz ,Magos Biologis

Is the Dominus Maniple worth using solely for the Plasma Caliver reroll and a tough as nails Dominus? Is that better than having the entire force using Scout and Crusader? You could just have a Vanguard Alpha in the Skitarii Maniple and get the same re-roll, right? I really dislike the lone Dunecrawler nonsense and loss of Scout on the Vanguard.

>>51312625
>surviving the burst cannon
>surviving the 30 shots from the fire warriors
>surviving the gun drones and the devil fish
Your guys are going to get shredded ;^)

>>51312663
>surviving the 30 shots from the fire warriors
>List has ten fire warriors

Did pulse rifles become assault 3 recently?

>>51312643
Unless your body is given over as a conduit to the motive force, you can get the fuck out of here with your fleshy shit.

Biologis is the WORST ordos, Cybernetica do some borderline Heretek shit, but they have cool bloops so they're good, Reductor blow shit up, so they're super good. And the Electro temples are fucking nutters but half shoot lightning out of their hands and the other half suck energy from the bodies of their enemies and use it to beat them to death and that's pretty fucking metal.

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>>51312696
Biologis is best ordo, the human body is the perfect self-repairing machine, the Omnissiah took the form of a man, not some Cybernetica beepboop or belligerent octopus from the Ordo Reductor.

>>51312663
Likely those clutch guys are going to be dead before they get into range those bastards are hoofing. No protection and 6+ FnP isn't much protection. There is a reason all my important guys are having around the Icon for 4+ FnP.

>>51312691
Guys on foot will need to walk though at least 1 turn 1 shot each, and then 1 turn of double tap before they are in range to shoot once.

>>51312691
Ethereal has a special rule that allows them to fire one more shot if they're within something like 12"

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>>51312739
Skitarii get saves against pulse rifles and burst cannon.

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>>51312733

They also make the cutest couples.

>>51312005
Don't use Morrigan

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>>51312696

>Not augmenting your body into a perfect killing machine and smashing Heretek heads with your bare hands while the Reductor use your personal virus bombs to literally wreck the world of anyone who crosses you.

Do you even Deus Mechanicus?

>>51312733
>>51312792

Preach it. All the rest need us for their implants, anyway. Scrubs.

Actually planning out a Genetor army at the moment using the 30k rules. Going to be great fun converting.

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>>51312792

>they think they can vat-grow!

>>51312733
Oh, you're one of THOSE. Sure, sure, I mean, it's SAFE to toe the line of the Ecclisiarchy, and the Emperor is DEFINITELY the embodiment of the Omnissiah Not that the Omnissiah would ever make those mistakes and let their body rot away instead of replacing it with pure metal of course..

Yup, that Psyker who made botched supersoldiers is definitely our lord of Holy Logic.

I mean, it's not like the Ordo Reductor made better supersoldiers that were stronger, tougher, gave no shits about fear (Because we removed that bit) and can simply be put back together when they fall. Hell, they even have a lower insanity rate.

>>51312839

Speaking of which actually, how should I mark out my Trueborn from the filthy vatborn?

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>>51312842
>Thallax
>lower insanity rate
>LOWER
what are you on and can I have some?

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>>51312842
>Being this much of a heretic

Dark Mechanicum go and stay go

>>51312739
Okay let's Math-hammer this bitch shall we. For just the fire warriors
First turn. Regardless of if you go first or second you take 10 shots, You can't shoot them yet, but you take 10 shots. they hit on 3's wound on 2's.
Roughly 6 will hit.
Of those 5 will wound.

You save all but 2 two this time. Squad down to 7.
Next turn, assuming they used Tau trickery to survive your shooting taking 2 Casualities from your turn you take 24 shots because of the the Tau Bastardry.
Of which 18 will hit.
16 will wound. You save 50% Leaving 8 wounds. you save 1 in 6 of those leaving 7. Squad still wiped out to the man.

>>51312863
Give them fancier and shiner helmets.

>>51312878
Whoops I mean
>>51312779

Is there any reason why FW only releases gear and statline pages for their models, but never any bonus formations? I don't really want to be forced to take everything in a CAD.

>>51312867
Half of the Emperors soldiers joined the anathema of logic. The remainder are brainwashed and have a tendency to kill everything in a battlezone, not just their targets and not even just their enemies. I've even heard that some of them are deviants that sexualise lupines.

Thallax on the other hand kill their targets then wait to get given code orders to kill some more. They clearly follow the blessed logic of The Knower of All.

>>51312878
>they hit on 3's

I thought FW were BS3, or do they have a special rule now?

>>51312878
Ethereal grants +1 shot to each fire warrior squad.

it's 20 shots from the fire warriors turn one.

>>51312818
Right I'll save her for a Rhino. When I get those...
Which will be coming up soon. My next purchase I think will be Rhinos.

>>51312925
They are Bs3, they should be hitting on 4s.

I doubt they're going to waste the marker lights on the fire warriors.

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>>51312867

True, but at least they go mental quietly. Worked on a Reductor fleet for a while, never known them to snap.

>>51312868
He will be dealt with, Secutor. Pay him no mind.

>>51312842
>>51312923

*Hey, I get the point, but NOT HERE. Come to Stygies, join the Conclave. Too many ears here, augmented or not. Can always use more mechandendrites.*

>>51312908
FW very rarely makes any formations or units that can be swapped out for in a formation. If they do, they're usually Apoc tier. FW plays by CAD or special detachments rather than formations. Which I like, personally.

>>51312925
>>51312945
Tau can Combine shoot, or something like that. Basically a bunch of squads target you and have to shoot you even if your already dead by the time their turn comes up. But they get +1 WS.

>>51312878
>they used Tau trickery to survive your shooting taking 2 Casualities

Where is the mathhammer behind two squads of fire warriors shrugging off 90 BS5+ S3 Rad-weapon shots with only two casualties?!

>>51312958
That's part of the hunder cadre or whatever, not the CAD, and they need at least 3 squads to combine for the +1 Bs anyway.

>>51312958
Their MC and vehicles have a rule that means that if there are 3 in a unit/squadron they all get +1BS, not sure where you are getting your rule from.

>>51312929
Okay so they hit 18 times wound 16, save for 8 FNP down to 7. Chances of the special weapon surviving that is piss poor. And that's the Fire Warriors alone. that Riptide is another bottle of Nasty.

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>>51313007
You're thinking of Fire Team. He's talking about Coordinated Firepower, a benefit of the Hunter Contingent.

>>51312950
>>51312923

Lets be factual here, Bio-feedback stimulation is fantastic way to remove junk code from the cogitator. Colloquially known as "Stress".

Its been observed that units have a 30% increase in productivity after such processes have been performed.

>>51312878
Math-Hammer says Skitarii Vanguard take 4.167 wounds from 20 shots from Tau Fire Warriors.

>>51312974
Aren't your Rad Weapons rapid fire? At extreme range you can't double tap. So how do you have that many shots?

>>51313087
Nupe, assault 3 18"

>>51312878
>firewarriors hitting on 3's
>10-2 = 7
>firewarriors have an ethereal granting +1 shot but the vanguard don't have a dominus giving them stealth.

Is this what it's like being on meth?

>>51313087
They're assault. Also inflict 2 auto-wounds regardless of toughness on a wound roll of 6. Cancer guns are nasty.

>>51313101
They're going by the lists posted above, but the pro-Tau seem to forget that there are 4 squads of Vanguard and even with cheated +1BS they can't wipe a squad each per turn.

>>51313101
His list didn't have a dominus, he's using a skitari alpha warlord so he just gets scout and crusader specials for the whole army, plus prefered enemy for his hq unit.

>>51313147
Plus whatever warlord trait he rolled but whatever.

>>51313101
I did 2/3's

>>51313098
Okay so your turn you get 90 shots alright. Divided into 2 squads Your BS 3 according to your profile. So...That's 1/2 of shots hitting.
So 30 Shots 15 Hits. s3 vs T4 means you wound 2/6 or 1/3 of the time. 5 wounds
50% save means 2.5 Fire warrior bite the dust per shooting.
Meaning to kill all 5 you have to put two squads into 1 unit.

Meaning there is 1 squad of 2-3 left to fire upon you in Rapid Fire on the next turn.

>>51313202
>Ballistic skill 4
>Can boost it to 7 with no support, unlike markerlights
>not accounting the rad rule

>>51313202
Are you blind? It's BS4 naturally and they can improve it by 3 or 2 or 1 at the cost of WS.

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>ITT /40kg/ fails to do math

>>51313244
How are you boosting with no support?
Sorry about that I was reading your WS column by mistake.

Your Rad Rule...At that point is likely to be 1/2 of your shots. I don't know the Rad rule so didn't factor it in. Still your probably not going to shred that army. And your chances of it drop dangerously if you don't get Dawn of War Set up.

You have a high probability of winning though The Odds are in your favor, But I'm playing Chaos Marines, not Tau or Skitari so I don't know the rules for either and my local meta doesn't have AdMech players just Eldar, Dark Elder, Loyal Marines and Tau.

Still my guess is your 200pts squad will be destroyed before it comes into firing range because it is the most dangerous. It will be targeted before any of the others.

>>51313202
Since when were Fire Warriors T4? Also, Rad-poison essentially makes them S4, since 6 hits=3 wounds on T4.
Let's say BS5, on average from Doctrinas.

24 hits, 18 wounds, 9 dead Warriors. Plus our Sarges have 2W, which is nice.
If they are T4, that's 6 dead.

>>51312908
The newest 40k FW book came out before formations were a widespread thing, and they don't do formations in 30k. We'll see if FW throws formations in IA14.

>>51313202
Skitarii are BS4 naturally and can boost it to BS7, then BS6, then BS5 on three turns of their choice, particularly against Tau since the downside (it tanks their WS to the same degree) isn't such an issue.

Math-Hammer says a 10-man skitarii unit shooting above BS5 can inflict at least 7 unsaved wounds per turn (which doesn't take into account the double wounds inflicted by the rad weapon special rule) which means they'll be able to wipe out those fire warriors and the pathfinders as soon as they get into range.

The real question is whether the skitarii player can keep those plasma cavaliers alive long enough to take out both the Riptide AND the devilfish. Ironically, the devilfish might actually cause more problems than the Riptide, since the sheer number of shots + double autowounds might actually allow the vanguards to knock a few wounds off the Riptide but there's fuck all they're going to do against a Devilfish with S3.

>>51313336
Since last week when I was shooting them with bolters and the Tau player told me they were T4.

>>51313324
Skitarii doctrina imperatives allow them to sacrifice their WS to boost their BS or vice versa.

The Radium weapons basically inflict two wounds when they roll a 6 to wound, and those wounds are applied even if it's something their S3 weapons couldn't normally wound.

>>51309303
>servoskulls confirmed to work on cult ambush on first turn

I TOLD YOU FAGGOTS. YOU ALL SAID IT'S NOT INFILITRATING BUT IT IS.

>>51313360
Fucking Tau players mang.

>>51313324
Doctrina Imperatives let you boost WS or BS at the cost of the opposing stat. You can get +1 for no cost, +2 for -1 of the other stat and +3 for -2.

It's a factionwide rule which every Skitarii unit is effected by.

>>51313360
>the Tau player told me they were T4.
>Actually trusting Tau players

I bet he told you those Riptides were only 90pts each too

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>>51313381
Ave Imperator!

>>51313324
The boosts are Doctrina Imperatives, they're built into the army. Also if we do manage to get close we can go to WS5 or 6 for a turn and almost certainly win the slapfights with-1T on them and them hitting on 5+.

Big plascal squad is probably going to be shot, yes. Downside to the Warlord trick. I prefer to spread one in each squad at that point level, but obviously not in larger games.

Can always take a couple Arc Rifles if the Devilfish is likely to be a problem, or a Dragoon.

>>51313360
Bullshit. Drones are, not Fire Warriors.

>>51313388
Apparently. I am way to trusting for a Chaos Traitor.
>>51313394
...150

>>51313418
Is Pedro literally the only CM with a helmet?

>>51313324
The funny thing is that the plasma squad is only really useful for fighting the Riptide, the Rad Carbines can easily take care of he rest and even stack a ton of wounds on the Ripttide.

As long as the board isn't barren as a rock, there should be enough LoS blocking terrain to limit incoming fire at long range. And the Scout move and Crusader make it easier to slide straight into cover.

>>51313433
oh you poor sod

>>51313433
30 points under, what a top level cunt, I bet he included upgrades in that cost as well.

>>51313442
Dante I think also has one but it has Sanguinius's death mask on it so it looks like a face.

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>>51313433
>150

>>51313462
yes

>>51313462
>>51313497
Who the fuck does this? Surely it just robs you of any pride in your victory?

>>51313549
WAAC is called WAAC for a reason, I don't think they get any satisfaction from winning, they just get to feel smug as someone else loses.

Do books/codexes/supplements ever get retired? Or is the only way for a book to become illegal is for an updated version of it to come out?

Are the Imperial Armor books still legal?

>>51313626
Some are legal but unsupported

>>51313626
as far as i know, Imperial armour books have never been illegal except for those who disallow FW out of principle rather than actual legality (not passing judgement)

>>51313549
And the game still ended in a tie...

>The Adeptus Mechanicus spend all their time rooting through old servers and hard drives looking for ancient STC files
>They have explorator fleets all over the galaxy searching ancient ruins and space hulks
>They're proud of the fact they never delete anything

Just how much of the Martian archives is just Dark Age of Technology porn do you reckon?

>>51313744
About 1/2...I'm guessing about half.

>>51313744
it's not porn maaaaan, it's data on the human reproductive sytem.

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>>51313744
Don't tell the Magos but I've been... oiling my tendrils to this lately.

>>51313744
Considering there are a lot of Daemon infested archives and Slaneesh is a thing. A lot, and the porn wants to eat your soul.