Warhammer 40k General

First for memeposting.

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1st or close to it for GREENSTUFF SOLVES EVERYTHING!

would johnny fuck a trap?

Anyone have advice for cheap battlewagons?

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>>51135234
5th for LAST TIME ON WARHAMMER 40K!

>>51135260
you should learn how to use greenstuff before you ruin models with it

furthermore with plastic models it's better to use plastic glue to repair small gaps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pniqDkfAI6U

Why do people here sperg about ADB? I read Betrayer and Talon of Horus and they both were pretty good.

>>51135293
Read Master of Mankind.

>>51135288
As expected of futuristic warrior cults!

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>>51135272
yeah, quit /tg/ forever

>>>/v/

pic related

Do we know the estimated point costs of Celestine and Greyfax?

>>51135364
200 and 150

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>>51135272

Depends on your bitz box. I made this years ago out of a 1/35 M3 Lee. Can't remember how much it cost but it was definitely less than the BW kit.

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I originally asked about blue because it was not shipping, and confused as balls it didn't had tracking number. It just didn't occurred to me, I simply assume the more expensive one was faster.

Then I asked about red why it was not shipping.

The idiots sold me out of stock shit, along with made to order out of stock (How?)
IA bought in hardback. Changing to soft, so... Honestly no idea what the hell happened back at GW

Finally ended cancelling the order.

4 other orders still missing, the fuckers are evading the questions.

We buy in bulk for many people just to avoid issues and this shit happens.

Orks seem like they're simply the most fun from the modeling aspect of the hobby.

>>51135304
But that's just one book. Yeah the whole Webway/Drach'nyen thing was pretty retarded but people act like everything he's ever produced has been shit.

>>51135260
He says, having ruined his model with it. I hope you have a file handy.

>>51135321
Who shat in your cheerios?

Hey guys,

Is there a good collection of the 40k fluff novels anywhere online?

>>51135513
>avoiding questions
>everything OoS
>that English
This is bad.

>>51135557
Read

The

OP

>>51135557
read op

What are the rules regarding bases for hovering/flying units? Does the unit need to be a specific height off the base, or can you modify it to make it higher or lower?

I'm guessing you can't modify it at all, or else you could have some really questionable LOS situations.

>>51135293
Because they're spergs that freak out if their imaginary faction isn't """winning""" the setting in a vague fictional future well past the actual timeline in which the plot of the game takes place.

There's literally one crybaby faggot that comes in these threads and tries to tell everyone else there's no reason to play 40k ever because chaos wins in the end so nothing they do matters. As if a normal person would give a shit about that instead of putting their painted army dudes on a table to roll some dice and blast each other while sharing a pack of beers.

>>51135536
>eating Cheerios

Get on our level, cereal pleb.

>>51135530
Be careful though, there's pitfalls.

"Glue random junk of models and ruin both" conversions
And the "10000 points built, nothing painted and the ideas keep coming like africanized bees"

>>51135536
That's my strategy: I blob it on (carefully soaking up the greenstuff around the rivets with a paper towl), wait a day for it to dry, then sand it down. The greenstuff is far softer than the GW plastic so it sands off quickly and by using a nice fine sandpaper I can ensure I don't damage the good plastic.

I wrap it around an old hotel keycard for precision sanding.

>>51135611
Do you have any examples of shit ork conversions?

>>51135595
Higher mean more visibility but also more visible, vise versa.

>>51135581
Sorry English is not my first language, it is around my 4th.

Question what does OoS mean? Out of Stock?

>>51135595

Shit is measured straight from the flyer's hull and guns, so...

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Does anyone even care?

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>>51135530
To me, converting models into "your guys" is THE best aspect of the hobby, and Orks are the best at this because you can use pretty much everything from your bitz box. Space Marines probably take second place due to how modular their models are, whils Tau are also highly customisable when it comes to battlesuits.

>tfw these are all armies I play.

>>51135671
No

>>51135671
>Gotta capitalize on x-wing being popular
it's trash

>>51135671
I'm sorta interested, but the pricetag was a buzzkill.

>>51135627
I only save good shit, that was an example of not awful just just commonly bad one confusing single parts of the ork design with the entire aesthetic.

>>51135671
Well we haven't seen the price or the rules, and there aren't many Dark Eldar people here anyway.

>>51135502
That looks very nice man!
I'm just starting out so I don't have much in the way of bits yet but I have ordered some trukk boyz and a battlewagon set. I was wondering if it is possible to bare bones out one battlewagon with its own set and then make another with a cheaper set. Historical sets look like a good idea.

>>51135684
That's how I feel about IG Veterans. I feel like you can do so many things with them. Things I've done to make them my guys are make Catachans Prisoners with orange outfits as count as Conscripts, Veterans that use Space Marine Scout bodies with shotguns and Scion Beret heads and I combined Scion bits with Cadian Command Squad bits to make a count as Straken and count as Creed.

Orkz also seem really fun for the highly customizeable aspect of them.

>>51135633
I know the implications, I just want to know if it's legal.

I'm imagining a Hammerhead hovering 71" above the battlefield. It just floats over and railguns its target from orbit.

Actually, if I can place my hovering units at an arbitrary height, does that imply they're capable of moving vertically? Are there rules for deploying a squad of Fire Warriors from a Devilfish that's several feet above the board?

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>>51135260
It bothers me so much that there is a bit of sprue left on the tip of the lasgun.

>>51135736
>Are there rules for deploying a squad of Fire Warriors from a Devilfish that's several feet above the board?

Yes, they die from taking the fall damage.

>>51135671
It looks pretty hype to me. If a resident DE player at my store buys it I'll play it with him.

>>51135712
>Historical sets look like a good idea.

Be aware that most historical kits won't work for 40K, at least not without massive amounts of plastic-card. The Lee works in part because it's got a very 40K design aesthetic to it, with the massively tall profile and multiple guns.

Secondly, you need to replace every weapon. 1/35 or 1/32 is the right scale for historical vehicles in 40K, but weapons in 40K are massively oversized, closer to 1/16. That Lee came with a 75mm cannon, a fair sized weapon for the period. It looks like a pea-shooter in 40K.

Good luck with your conversions!

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>>51135627
This is the typical rookie Ork conversion mistake.

Take shit, glue plastic spikes and big guns on, call it "Orky"

>>51135671
it might save you a few bucks compared to buying the models seperate, and if you play DE you were gonna buy reavers anyway. i guess count the skateboard punks as reavers as well

>>51135793
isn't that the same rule for chaos players?

>>51135793
What the fuck were they thinking with this
How did they think this would look even remotely acceptable

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>>51135710
>aren't that many Dark Eldar people here
We're few and far between, but we're here, anon.

>>51135701
What's the price? Reavers are one of the few units that got a buff with the new edition. All the tokens can be used as jink markers or objective markers

>>51135813
>isn't that the same rule for chaos players?
No but it applies to the piece of shit "vehicles" they come up with in the fluff
>take a rhino, put a spike rack on it and loads of missiles and glue bolters together PRAISE THE DARK GODS

>>51135671
I don't like Hellions. So unless the game rules are incredible I'll pass. I'd much rather get cheap Reavers out of Start Collecting boxes.

>>51135671
I'll probably buy two or three

They should have just squatted DE instead of wasting all that money making their 5E plastics.

Then they could use all that machinery, raw plastic, and capital to make moare marines :^)

>>51135793
It happens enough that I've actually a fucking pasta with critique that applies with 90% accuracy to every failed Ork conversion.

>>51135817
Just not getting that the Orks aesthetic is more than "spikes, rivets and guns".

>>51135813
>isn't that the same rule for chaos players?
You mean "slap greenstuff on and say it's nugley?"
Yeah.

>>51135736
You wouldn't be able to deploy them.

>>51135293
Helsreach and Blood and Fire were good as well

>>51135671
Nah. I would have preferred something new and fluffy. Like a better version of Lost Patrol with Catachans and Nids.

>>51135840
Rumors say £50/$80.

>>51135736
>I know the implications, I just want to know if it's legal.
Officially, models must use the bases that they come with. People just don't complain about custom bases of normal size because they don't mind. Try to put your Skimmer on a six foot tall base and they'll probably say something.

>>51135736
No one will let you bring a vehicle on a base that high.

Where do you get your dice, anons? I've heard lots of good things about Chessex, especially for things like getting fancy custom dice which sounds interesting to me, having a couple Tzeentch, Necron, or Thousand Sons dice would be nice but have also heard a lot of bad things about them too. What do you guys recommend?

>>51135869

Can I see the pasta?

>>51135930

Haha! You'll never shoot down my Arvus Lighter now!

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>>51135948
I like Army Painter.

>>51135859
Obvious bait is obvious
>>51135926
That's not bad. If someone has picked up a starter box or two it won't be a bad investment.

>>51135948
I just use whatever cheap dice I have lying around. Mostly whatever dice I get out of various board games.

>>51135926
Seems extremely cheap. They're effectively giving away all the Hellions at that point relative to retail. Then again, maybe that's the point.

>>51135948

GW

Chessex dice are fine, because all the bad things apply to all other dice companies too except for precision dice like casinos and Gamescience which aren't really worth buying, so don't worry about it.

If you really are paranoid just buy extra batches and test each one until you can eliminate all the ones that are overly skewed, or throw in a mix of skews for each number.

>>51135948
I buy from deal extreme or aliexpress because dice are dice and you can't beat the price

for objective/wound/hullpoint markers I buy a pack of dice from the dollar store because they'll be bigger and chunkier

>>51135950
>Gotta say I ain't feeling the orkyness.

>The Ork aesthetic is more than "spikes, rivets and guns".
>It needs inherent "chunkyness", additions that look like it's been cobbled together from/repaired with scrap, not just having said scrap glued on as an afterthought

>As is it's just a case of "glue some junk on it and call it Orky"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFCuE5rHbPA

Video was added as an afterthought

>>51135948
Chessex custom dice prices are as follows for 16mm dice with 1 custom image on one face (IE: symbol on 6)

10-25 dice: $1.00 per side
26-99 dice: $0.75 per side
100-199 dice: $0.60 per side
200-499 dice: $0.50 per side
500-999 dice: $0.42 per side


My friendgroup have been considering making a logo and ordering a bunch.

>>51135948
>>51135978
precision for game d6s means diddly squat

you only go gamescience if you're rolling d20s because chessex d20s are fucking round eggs

but it's impossible to fuckup a square

>>51135886
hnnnnngg

>>51135671
Thought it was a Necromunda like game.

Also Cardboard scenery and no new models.

Maybe if it is $50 I would consider it.

>>51135976
>They're effectively giving away all the Hellions at that point relative to retail.

Sounds perfectly in line with their boxed games. Calth gave you a free Contemptor, Prospero has the Custodes/Sisters for free, all the start collecting boxes have something for free.

>>51136011

You'd be surprised how bad a rock tumbler can fuck up a square. That is if you weren't too busy shitposting everywhere.

>>51136022
>start collecting boxes
They're pretty shit though

>>51135969
>>51135976
As someone who wanted to buy it just to play, then later backpedaled because it looked a lot like X-Wing and not Necromunda, then pingponged back because the box came with 6(!) Reavers, I'd rather just source more Reaver boxes from my FLGS than buy this, really. I guess I could try to flip the Hellions for a small profit, but the market'll be flooded with them before long because of people who have the exact same idea as me, right?

So reportedly Cawl can replace any Dominius HQ right?

>Cohort Cybernetica
>Composition: 1.Tech-Priest Dominus, 2. Kastelan Robot Maniples
>Restrictions: Single unit. Dominus cannot leave this unit.

Am I wrong in thinking Admech players can run him in a 1850 points monstrous creature deathstar?

>>51136043
Ok anon, cool opinion, now how does that change that they give you something free of charge?.

>>51136069
He is not MC, oddly enough. I just hope those are bullshit rules.
Otherwise Celestine is a Necron now.

>>51136043
Nigger what? They're some of the best deals GW has ever made. They smashed criticism right out of the park when they dropped this time last year.
So what if some of them aren't >optimal? They're usually excellent starting points for armies and a great way to grow one, too.

>>51136045
Yeah. Basically if you have any interest in the Hellions it's a great deal. But if you just want the Reavers and are trying to flip the hellions it's probably not that great. The DE Start Collecting is a similarly good deal and comes with way more solid stuff.

>>51136045
I'm actually going to ask my group if they care if I kit bash them into a seercouncil. I prefer the DE aesthetic to CWE but, I've always wanted to try that formation. For fun.

>>51136084
Wait really? He's the size of a carnifex I just assumed. Well the Kastelans are still MC so I guess it still works.

>>51136000
Sounds like a pretty decent deal. Is the ordering process hard to deal with, or is it relatively simple?
I may have to order some custom 40k dice of my own just to fit my armies.

>>51136081
>>51136087
No don't get me wrong, getting free shit is cool, but it would be good if there was like tiers of collecting boxes. Like, £35 £50 £75 that cover troops, elites/heavies/supports/ and vehicles respectively.

>>51136022
Calth is free Contemptor, free characters, and free terminators.

>>51136033
I've got multiple sets of gamescience dice

you shouldn't worry about your PRECISE D6 and instead worry that your opponent isn't bringing a wraithknight and three riptides

>>51136146
yeah, calth is a really nice box, I might buy another

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How does chainsword fighting work? Do you press the teeth against the opponent or just smack him with it?

>>51136141
I've never ordered. But I've heard it's pretty informal. You just shoot them an email with an attached file, possibly asking for a demo die. They print one out and send it to you, then you tell them "this is what I want", pay, wait 4-8 weeks I believe, and bam, new dice.

>>51136207
Bit of both.

Space Marine did a pretty great job illustrating it.

GW are possibly getting their shit together, the as (you), yes (you) to tell them what they should make or bring back next.

What do you choose?

Claiming Necromunda.

>>51136207
Videogames usually depict swinging and then pressing.

>>51136207
Yes.

It's literally a chainsaw in sword form with extremely hard teeth.

Space Marine does a good job, or a good amount of the books that have chainsword fights.

>>51136207
They're literally just chainsaws
You use them exactly how you'd expect a chainsaw to work

>>51136126
He is 100% confirmed infantry (character)

>>51136235
Plastic SoB, failing that Mordheim or Necromunda

>>51136215
Ah, alright. Thanks anon

>>51136240
>It's literally a chainsaw in sword form
>>51136246
>They're literally just chainsaws

This still makes my junk wobble. So simple. So beautiful

>>51136172
>implying precision dice with their sharp corners don't make excellent throwing weapons against such faggots

All bases covered. Checkmate, Chessex poorfags.

>>51136235
A codex system that has some actual fucking external balance, reining in retard strong codices (Eldar) and raising up shittier ones (Orks).

>>51136207
You basically swing with the intention of scraping away flesh/armor using the teeth and the direction of their motion to do so.

>>51136235

>>51136274 beat me to it.

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We have the rules for FoC cadia leaked by text. Anyone has pictures. Even if I buy the bloody book I wont get it till a month later of release because can't into International shipping outside Europe or the USA

>tfw just realized that with what I currently have I can make a pretty cheesy 750 list

HQ
-Daemon Prince, 160
+Daemonic Flight, 40
+Warp-forged Armor, 20
+Goredrinker, 30
+Collar of Khorne, 15
+Ichor Blood, 5
Total, 270

Troops
-2xChaos Space Marines, 130
+2 marines, 30
+9xCCW, 18
+Power Sword, 15
+2xMelta gun, 20
+Icon of Wrath, 20
Total, 233 (466)

Total, 736

>>51136235
Mordheim.

I think it would make raging fantasy players very happy and sell well.

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Hey do you think my daemons list would be competitive? It only has 36 WC which doesnt seem very many.

>>51136207
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpDYLij_eKg

>>51136291
>reverse image search
>first result is jessica lynch

lewl

>>51136235
For myself, I would go with making the game true scaled. Marines are bigger, fewer and fuck hard to kill. Guard are smaller, come in droves, pop like water balloons, Tau can shoot your shit off, but can't take a hit from a pea shooter, Necrons are just OP and you get very few of them but you get awesome tactical options, Orks are just Guard but more shooty and more choppy, but need to do one or the other.

>>51136274
YES!

>>51136249

I still have my original rulebook and warband from Mordheim. I hope they release an updated game in the same style.

>>51136291
>leaked by text
Got a link, my man?

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>>51135930

From page 2 of the 40k FAQ version 1.2.

>>51136235
A game between Killteam and 40k in scale, but way higher in depth.

>>51136411
So, HoR with a bit of homebrew, but officially released?

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>>51136360
Thought anon was talking shit.

>>51136411
I wouldn't mind if GW took some of Heralds of Ruins ideas like hiding, leaping over gaps, climbing, blasts interactions with walls, etc. .

If I put exclusively dark angels bits on deathwatch, say they are dark angels veterans, but use the deathwatch rules, will people get upset?

>>51136411
I was actually thinking that
Combine it with some new Start Collecting boxes at a lower price point meant to jump you into Killteam and the game becomes way more accessible
Honestly just anything that lets me realistically afford to play with more than one army would be great

>>51136440
Only autists.

>>51136207
Guants ghosts had a chainsword duel. Was pretty much just a sword fight with the teeth getting ripped the fuck off every strike.

>>51136440
If it's Deathwatch models + Dark Angels bits, then no.

What's wrong with a bunch of former chapter mates grouping up to purge the alien?

>>51136440
>is it WYSIWYG?
>is there a way to set them apart from your actual DA at a glance?
If yes then you're good to go.

>>51136389
Comence posting, if I fuck well tough luck no quality control here just like GW!

>failbaddon gets up to his old habits, 13th time the charm!
>but elsewhere in the galaxy Tarzyn sees shit going down and decides to play hero for giggles
>turns up to Cadia to offer his unconditional help defending it to the sisters of battle and black Templars
>as a gift he releases lots of guys he kidnapped to come help in the fight including some guardsmen, an inquisitor and some dark eldar who also agree to help defend cadia
>SoBs and Templars are over joyed to have a new friend and accept him in to their ranks
>he offers the admech the secret to activating the pylons on Cadia
>amy the armless shoes up and starts shit off
>admech guy activates the pylons
>pylons drain all warp energy and banish all daemons but somehow this helps the forces of chaos more than it does the loyalists (????)
>Celestine confirmed for creature of the warp and has all her energy drained away and is weak as shit
>Failbaddon gets in a fight with her and creed, a depowered saint and some regular joe
>STILL MANAGES TO LOSE AND GET HIS SPINE SEVERED
>admech guy presses the wrong button and Cadia explodes but not before the dark eldar evacuate all the imperial forces in to the webway

>>51136457
Greenwing "dark angels" here I come

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>>51136222
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>>51136341
Just two more questions.

>how much stronger is the chainaxe?
>can either of these weapons cut through power armor?

>>51136341
Didn't really like this game but this video makes my dick fucking twitch.

>>51136406
Right. "Appropriate size".

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>>51136489
Adding random images for extra confusion!

>Belisarius Cawl, you mean the guy who regenerates 1D3 PV per turn, which makes the Buddies benefit from the Omnimessie Songs (kind I file to this unit up to 3 jets of "It's Invincible!" By turn ... Yes, it is ox!) And which gives them access to new Relics: the Arcana Mechanicum?

>The guy is CC 5 / CT 5 / F 5 / E 6 / PV 5 / I 3 / A 3 / Cd 10 / Svg 2+ and 5 ++, and his main weapon is the Solar Atomizer 12 '' / F 10 / PA 1 / Assault 1D3, Master's Weapon, Fusion).

>Choir Noosphere: Free Songs If you have any choices: 4 HQ, 4+ Troops, 6 Elite, 6 Fast Attack, 6 Support and 3 Lords of Battles.
Looks like bonuses based on army comp?

>The Great Convocation is that you have access to all units of the Mechanicum (Codex Skitarii, Cult Mechanicus, Imperial Knights, as well as the Enginseer of the Codex Imperial Agents), with 2-4 HQ choices, 4+ choices 0-6 choices Elite, 0-6 choices Fast Attack, 0-6 choices Support, 0-3 choices Lord of Battles, and with good detachment bonuses: Agents of the Adeptus Mechanicus (all vehicles have "He is Invincible!"), Elect of the Omnimessie, Chœur Noosphérique.

>Celestine is at 200 points (with her Geminae, CC 5, 2 HP, 2 A, Svg 2+ and 4 ++) as Belisarius Cawl, the Inquisitor Greyfax being at 150 points. The 3 characters of the Triumvirate can be chosen as the HQ of any faction of the Imperium.

>>51136428
>>51136433
About that yeah with the rules and scale to let the team face of versus a tank, Hive tyrant turned up to nightmare level, like Genestealers in necromunda.

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>>51136514
New Repressor model? Or just shitty work?

>Celestine
>BS 7 / CS 7 / S 3 / T 3 / W 5 / I 7 / A 5 / Cd 10 / Svg 2+ et 4++,
>Ardent blade is S+2 / PA 3 / master crafted, armourbane, flamer type Assault 1 / S 5 / AP 4
>All wounds on celestine are taken by the geminae, and she can "ressurect" one per turn (apparently no roll is needed), and can revive herself once on a successful leadership test

Canticles Of The Omnissiah

Canticles Of The Archmagos: Only work if Cawl is alive. Work just like the other Canticles but also influence any Imperial vehicles that are within 12" of Cawl, even if they don't have the canticles special rule.

Harmony Of Metallurgy

1-3 IWND

4-7 IWND. Roll two times for IWND instead of one time

8* IWND. Roll three times for IWND instead of one time (so any vehicle etc. could regain 3 wounds from this!)


Word Of Neutralisatoin

1-3 BS+1

4-7 BS+2

8+ BS+3 (so just like the Doctrinas but without any WS penalty and it even works on vehicles that aren't Mechanicus)

Warhymn Of Badassitude (too lazy to look up the correct word)

1-3 6+ Invul save

4-7 5+ Invul Save

8+ 4+ Invul Save

>>51136514
Admech Decurion baybee

>>51136520
HoR can do that, there are already infantry units that can take krak grenades and melta. You just need to internally tweak the system for some seriously cool shit,

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>>51136535
>Celestine
>BS 7 / CS 7 / S 3 / T 3 / W 5 / I 7 / A 5 / Cd 10 / Svg 2+ et 4++,
>Ardent blade is S+2 / PA 3 / master crafted, armourbane, flamer type Assault 1 / S 5 / AP 4
>All wounds on celestine are taken by the geminae, and she can "ressurect" one per turn (apparently no roll is needed), and can revive herself once on a successful leadership test

>Celestine
>BS 7 / CS 7 / S 3 / T 3 / W 5 / I 7 / A 5 / Cd 10 / Svg 2+ et 4++,
>Ardent blade is S+2 / PA 3 / master crafted, armourbane, flamer type Assault 1 / S 5 / AP 4
>All wounds on celestine are taken by the geminae, and she can "ressurect" one per turn (apparently no roll is needed), and can revive herself once on a successful leadership test

>>51136440
>DW rules using DW models

I don't see the problem. They are literally just DA DW.

>>51136499
Chainaxe is a lot stronger. AP4 means that it can axtually cut through anything that isn't power armor or better. +1S in 30k.

But no, only power weapons can cut through power armor, and even then, Power Mauls and Power Lances usually can't.

>>51136499
>how much stronger is the chainaxe?
More leverage, maybe a heavier engine

>can either of these weapons cut through power armor?
Armour itself no, though soft joint sure, if they are to brak through it's pretty much gotta be by smashing the armour's surface so the teeth can get a grip .

>>51136482
Most of the inquisition symbols would go, but they would still have bling and tacticool everywhere, along with deathwatch weapons.

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>>51136563
>Uh, actually Célestine is an independent person! It can join a unit with geminae. If she leaves, her Geminae too and they together form a unity.

Celestine is at 200 points (with her Geminae, CC 5, 2 HP, 2 A, Svg 2+ and 4

HQ Choice, 200 points (that's right he is that cheap and NOT a LOW!)

WS5 BS5 S5 T6 W5 I3 A3 LD10 2+ armour, 5++ invul (Refractor Field)

He may replace any Dominus in the formations from our codex. Cawl, Grayfax and Celestine may be taken as an HQ choice in a CAD or allied detachment for ANY Imperial Faction, no matter which faction those three actually come from. So yes, we could take Celestine etc. instead of a Dominus.


Arc-Claw-Thingy ("Bogengeißel"): Range:- S+1 AP4 Close Combat, Haywire, Master-crafted. Has a special rule that let's you re-roll the result on the haywire chart.

Master-crafted Power Axe

Mechandrite Hive: Cawl does 2D6(!!) S4 Ap- attacks at Ini 10 if he is in close combat. Doesn't grant an additional pile-in move. He also has a Dataspike, so potential 13 S4 AP- Ini 10 attacks, BEFORE he even starts to swing with his axe!

Scryerskull: At the start of your turn you can identify a mysterious objective anywhere on the map.

Solar-Atomiser: Range 12", S10, AP1 Assualt D3, Master-Crafted, Melter

Special Rules:

Warlord Trait is the one that let's him re-roll FNP rolls.

Special rule 1 (not gonna translate the German names for those): At the start of your turn, Cawl regains D3 wounds. Yep, no roll for this or anything, he just gets them back!

>>51136574
>More leverage
In the swing. Pretty much useless vs a chainsword if we're being honest.

>>51136535
>>51136514

Any chance you can provide me with the source of this information?

>>51136556
Yeah, like commandeering a tank to have a tank battle stuff like that.

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>>51136594
That is the last of what I have, admire your third world banana republic overlord. Or don't


>Celestine is at 200 points (with her Geminae, CC 5, 2 HP, 2 A, Svg 2+ and 4 ++) as Belisarius Cawl, the Inquisitor Greyfax being at 150 points. The 3 characters of the Triumvirate can be chosen as the HQ of any faction of the Imperium.

>>51136606
I can definitely see that being something you could work into the game. If you upgrade your base to have a garage, you can take one transport per 10 men iirc. So if you were to play with a point limit over 500 (for example) then you could wire in a rule like, one tank once your army has at least 35 models. The tank can't have an armour rating of more than 34 would be my rule. If you wanted to go more in detail, you could make it so you upgrade to a garage, then a motor pool which lets you upgrade one transport to a tank.

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>>51136603
No, have random tumblr girl.

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>>51136598
>Pretty much useless vs a chainsword if we're being honest
"You fool! Do you truly believe that crude axe can best the finest weapons of the Hollows?"

— Blade-Master Sanatha, moments before his decapitation

>>51136673
Is that because you don't know the source or because you're choosing not to divulge for the sake of privacy?

>>51135671

I was interested until I saw the X-wing shit.

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>>51136695
Yes

>>51136666
Suddenly you'd have a reason to take haywire over melta for "safe" captures of tanks and you might create a tanker member of your party to either drive real gud or to hijack shit.

>>51136680
I meant in "not-grimdark" terms.

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>All these leaks and nothing for BT, formations or the Imperial Crusade detachment.

Totes not ok.

>>51136603
Looks like the same french forum info that was posted earlier.

>>51136758
Yeah, it does; I just want to view that forum myself, rather than hear it from someone else.
Hard to believe these leaks without some sort of backing, some kind of image of the book, some credibility on the part of the leaker, etc.

I just don't wanna get hyped for nothing.

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>>51136758
Maybe

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>>51136563
>pewter sisters
every time

>>51136752
We learned that there was a combined imperial detachment that gives you "when a unit is wiped on a 5+ return them to reserves, Hatred, and if you max out a slot choice:Zealot." it requires 1 HQ and 4 troop choices minimum but any faction of the imperium can use it.

>>51136752
Space marines already have one of the best codexes and the best suppliments in the game.
>bitch about muh marines when after so many many years SoBs get an update

>>51136752
I'm still pretty booty devastated that there isn't more for Guard. They were totally pushed to the side for more Marines and a chubby woman.

>>51136758
All of that came from a german guy on B&C

>>51136249
Necromunda failed twice, I don't know that they'd take a third shot at it.

Even though it might actually work, since it seems like the casual community is decreasingly enthusiastic about large armies and superheavy bloat and killteam, which is similar scale to Necromunda is popular.

I wouldn't mind seeing it again, but I personally would prefer Gothic.

>>51136843
Celestine is the Holy Trinity of Ass, Tits and T H I C C

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So my Skitarii just came in.
How's this look for a starter list to get my gears goin? Just using what I have right now. Hopefully not facing any fliers at 750 points lol

>>51136843
Just remember you can use that chubby woman at the head of any of your imperial armies.Which may or may not mean plastic sisters

>>51135948
there are already official GW thousand sons dice

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Thousand-Sons-Dice

granted they appear to be sold out atm but maybe you can find some on ebay or somewhere else

>>51136873
The phosphor on the Onager is crap. Either get Icarus if you're afraid of flyers or another Neutron.

>>51136854
I think the problem is that necromunda doesn't include any of the existing factions.

>>51136902
Just make Mordheim in SPACE.

Didn't that thing ended having Lizardmen?

>>51136899
Oh yeah, i forgot I left him like that. Dropped the heavy Stubbers on both of them and now there's two neutrons.

>>51136872
I agree. I'm all on board with chubby women. I bust hardest to them. I just feel like the fall of Cadia should have been a Guard focused update. Instead they got shoved to the side. A big Sister's update would have been great if they focused on a more Sister like event, instead of the most iconic Guard planet.

>>51136877
I'll try to remember that.

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So whats everyones faction going into the rest of the gathering storm? Mine are Nids and blood angels.

>>51136829
Yeah thats the Castellans of the Imperium according to the Warhammer site but there's also the Imperial Crusade detachment according to FoC summary.

>Grand Convocation and Imperial Crusade detachments – combine Cult Mechanicus, Skitarii and Mechanicus Knights in one army, and Black Templars and Adepta Sororitas in another

Now we dont know if the Castellans and Wrathful Crusade are all the detachments for 'Imperial Crusade', could be but we dont know. Besides, whats the benefit of Wrathful Crusade? Castellans

>Grants Hatred to all its units and the ability to bring back fallen Troop units, representing the sheer size of the Imperial War machine and it’s near-limitless manpower.

Inquisitive minds need to know!.

>>51136808
Someone saved my troll list.

>>51136929
its barely even one month in and hasn't even had a release of anything globally yet, and is supposed to run for 2 years. You'll get your stuff

I plan on using daemon allies to go with my CSM. I know that I can't attach a character between army types, but can I load daemons into rhinos?

>>51136921
It'd need to be a planet wide thing, rather than set in a hive city, if you wanted to get each faction in on it.

>>51135430
Cost for Cawl?

>>51136951
Okay I didn't know it was supposed to run for 2 years. I thought this was it. This is why I complain to you guys and not to anyone else. I can't look stupid if no one knows it's me.

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>6T5W
>2+ armor 5++invul
>recovers d3 wounds every turn without have to roll for it
>up to 13 s4 AP ini 10 attacks even before her uses his MC axe
>12in s10 ap1 assaultd3 master crafted melta
>reroll FNP
Unless you give him the D this nigga is invincible

>>51136952
Yes but they can't start inside it so not much point.

>>51136978

We know where you sleep

>>51136995
Why can't they start in it?

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>>51136924
Also whoops forgot the picture.

It's kind of a lame list. Part of me wanted to run rangers instead, but maybe I'll proxy them first. Though I imagine the arc Rifles will work better.

>>51136996
Do I snore too loud for you? Cause you can just nudge me awake, I don't mind being woken up.

>>51136978
I know who you are Bob! You owe me 20 bucks!.

>>51136978
all good, GW exact words were they expect this new campaign to run well into 2018, and this is just chapter 1 of whats to come. they also confirmed this is not 40k end times and is just a new story arc, so don't pay attention to the doomsayers.

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>>51136594
>huge cock
I see your huge cock and raise you, riding a horse.

>>51136954
You'd need to do something like a planet where loads of factions were involved in the conflict but some horrendous cataclysm happened and everything went to ultra-shit and the survivors are trying to survive in the apocalyptic aftermath.

>>51137006
FAQ disallowed starting in an ally's transport.

Hey,

I play a Noise-marine Heavy Emperors Children army and am to build a Landraider with "bass-cannons" attached on the sides.

How well does a Land-raider do without Terminators in it (I dont like termies at all)
is it too overpriced as just a Tank or is it a decent Distraction carnifex?

Also how nice is the Relic Sicarian as a Heavy support choice?

>>51137006
I think the rule for any transport is that the unit needs to have the transport noted in their list of available options in order for you to put them inside. so if your daemons codex says they can take a transport, you can use that one for them np, otherwise no. I'm not sure how it works for putting them inside after the game starts, they just can't start in it.

>>51137056
Oh. I thought they were referring to another player when they said ally, not an ally detachment.

Oh well.

>>51136990
Outstanding. Thanks, anon.

>>51136990
>200 points
Hmmm.

>>51136990
>tfw anti-Taufags bitching about Riptides being udnercosted and durable
>tfw this giganigga is even more undercosted and even more durable, specifically because he is literally the Riptide but with free, rerollable FNP and turbo-IWND
Cawl is the Riptide of the Imperium. You could say he's the Imperial TEQ wait a sec

>>51137056
Don't forget the retarded part.

Even if they're battle brothers, you can't do it.

>>51137059
It's overcosted for just fire support.

>>51136990
Even D weapons are going to have a hard time picking out an Independent Character who can just join a bunch of meatshields and LoS on a 2+.

>>51137078
I mean i think he is worth the 200 pts

>>51137036
source?

>>51137093
No shit sherlock.

>>51137082
It is a special character you can't spam 3 of this guy.

What are some cool 40k novels that don't wank the shit out of the faction they're about?

>>51137094
>Warlord trait: Fuck Genestealer cultists

Nice.

>>51137095
Sadly, there's no more of that glorious scene.

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How would this work, other than poorly

I play Astra Militarum, using the Cadia Supplement. Since Cadia has fallen, my FLGS is banning the Cadia Supplement. This, of course, also means I can't use the Baneblade or any of its variants since they're not in my basic codex.

The shop already bans FW stuff. So I'm effectively without a Super Heavy/LoW in a tournament environment where people heavily use such options.

I'm also the only Astra Militarum player at the shop, so this new ban only effects me.

Are any other FLGS doing this or just the shop I go to?

>>51136990
>he does all this while providing canticles letting you roll 3 IWND in one turn, take +3 BS or give everyone 4+ Invuln

This guy is incredible

>>51137126
Path of the Dark Eldar series is good.

>>51136990
>Mfw the already op Tech preset dominus ain't got shit on him
>Tfw He auto starts with eternal warrior more then likely

>>51137082
Except this guy costs more than a Riptide, you can only ever take one of him, and he isn't zipping around the battlefield on Jet Packs with 72" AP 2 ignores cover pie plates plus additional weapon systems.

>>51137114
>but you can only have 1 so it's ok
Even if this logic wasn't flawed, he's such a ridiculous force multiplier that you only NEED one of him to make him worthwhile.

>>51137082
He's probably going to be difficult to take in an army, or they'll make it so you -have- to have all 3. Or something.

Im building an administratum (or however the fuck you spell it) themed guard army. Can annyone recommend some 3rd party sites for snazzy uniforms n stuff? Ive looked on all the usual suspects sutch as maxmini, kromlech, anvil, etc. and i found some cool stuff bit im kinda stuck when it comes to arms n guns. I dont want to break the bank and for some stupid reason they all sell shit in sixes just to hebrew me out of my cash. Any good sites i may not have come across?

>>51137062
DAYUM SON can't wait to field her

>>51137062
Yeah, guys riptides still broken

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>>51137126
Cain is always good. He's a Bro Commissar but shows the guard as it really is. A piece of shit meat grinder. He also makes friends, and fucks, the hottest inquisiBLAM

>>51137152
>Since Cadia has fallen, my FLGS is banning the Cadia Supplement.

Doesnt sound so friendly.

>>51137094
She's awesome, but I'm definitely not going to buy her model any time soon. I have that out of stock female Inquisitor model that has the Condemnor Boltgun and a Power sword that I can count as Greyfax.

>>51137150
Very poorly.

>>51137152
>Since Cadia has fallen, my FLGS is banning the Cadia Supplement.
Id recommend burning the shop down with the manager inside it.

>>51137135

Good thing Cult Ambush isn't Infiltrate, or they might have had a problem.

>>51137154
I'm pretty sure if you use the 4++ canticle on a unit of 3 dunecrawlers their overlapping field special rule makes it 2++.

>>51137126
Graham McNeille's Ultramarines Omnibus.

Sure it's about the Blue Sues but McNeille is in the "space marines aren't that strong" camp which mean them getting shot to death by a handful of planetary guard with autoguns which makes you wonder why they even bothered inventing power armor. Smurfs dropping like bitches left and right, fucking up everything and getting fucked up.

>>51137152
>Since Cadia has fallen, my FLGS is banning the Cadia Supplement
This is the most retarded thing I've heard all day.
>The shop already bans FW stuff

Kindly tell your store manager to go fuck himself, the educate him on the prevalence of Cadian regiments elsewhere in the galaxy than fucking Cadia itself, and of the existence of Nova Cadia (which one, you decide). Then ask him if he's rather face DKoK or scatbikes. What a massive faggot.

>>51137056
That's not part of the FAQ though. That's literally in the BRB.

>>51136990
>I3
Meh, cheap KDK lord with AoK instakills him on a 6 to wound.

>>51137166
He's a 10,000 year old fucking Archmagos. Of course he should be better than an oversized blueberry suit.

>>51137162
He doesn't have EW, but you can bubblewrap him from D attacks at least.

Technically you could make a Cohort Cybernetica and stick him in. That's 4 Kastellans, 2 Datasmiths and Cawl counting as a single unit

>>51137056
Does it say anything about starting in an opponent's transport?

>>51136990
>No Eternal Warrior

1v1 him with Sigismund/Librarians/Grey Knights/A lucky Emperor's Champion and he's dead! D E A D!

Still a bargain for 200pts.

>>51137152
thats fucking retarded LOL, I'd find a new place to game at. And I only say this because if they're doing shit like that, I can just imagine what else those faggots are doing

>>51137126
Cain, Gaunt and Eisenhorn are the kings of 40k literature

>>51137165
>Imperiumfags will actually defend his retarded buffs just because he doesn't have a big fuckoff gun
He's cheaper than a Riptide with FNP and the accelerator, anyway.
>ignores cover
Riptides can't do this
>b-b-b-but m-markerlights!
aren't the Riptide
>you can only have one of him so it's okay if he's broken

>>51137168
Have you even seen the leaks? He can replace any HQ in any Imperial army. There has literally never been an easier way to take such a character.

>>51137224
>>51137211
>>51137201

I should clarify, that the shop owner doesn't actually manage the events. Instead we have a separate guy who volunteers at the shop to be the TO of the events (He refuses to call them tournaments) and decides what is allowed and not.

Before I moved here, there were players they use to have that brought the most OP lists they can use, they were kicked from the store after getting FW banned.

>>51137261
I do not know how to drive, never learned in my 28 years of life, and the closest shop is two towns over. So I'm stuck with this place.

>>51137152
>Cadia
>Fallen

CADIA STANDS

>>51137152
I would mail GW about it and get them to write you an official letter that allows you to use all that. After all, Cadia isn't the only planet that produces Cadians.

That would infuriate me. It's ridiculous to the point where I don't really believe you, but if it's true then I'm double rump roasted.

>>51137284
Cadia Falls No More.

>>51137152
I can see maybe barring the relics at most or calling them "cadians",but then again a fuck load of guard use the same shit. But none near me are doing that, hell my local GW is celebrating cadians this week

>>51137280
>I do not know how to drive, never learned in my 28 years of life

Fucking Europeans

>>51137114
Yeah but he's not a monstrous creature, which means that this force multiplier can be added to death starts and benefits/adds to the Imperium's ability to stack characters.

Riptides don't get the benefit of being joined by ICs or joining units. At best, you can keep them in range of Shadowsun's reroll 1s field.

>>51137284
>>51137300
CADIA HASN'T FALLEN! IT HAS MERELY GONE TO GROUND!.

>>51137329
So it took a pinning test?

Do Vectored Retro-Thrusters apply Hit and Run to the entire unit or just the model they're equipped to?
Unless I'm missing something, the codex says the latter, but I see a lot of sources saying it gives it to the whole unit and I'm not sure why.

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>>51137062
Saint blessing? Have those?

>>51137280
If he refuses to let you use valid supplements I believe you are free to duel him to the death.

>>51137317
Actually, I grew up in Southern California and moved to Southern Colorado in 2015.

>>51137293
>>51137304
>>51137350
I actually plan on talking to the shop owner because the ban only affects me. Everyone else plays Power Armour armies, Chaos armies, Nids or Tau. We have one player who does Tau with Eldar allies.

>>51137062
who's tankier, her or smashcucker? Because she literally has 4 4++ ablative wounds that can restore at 2 per turn, on top of her own 5 wounds.

>>51137227
2d6 I10 hits plus Canticles plus LoS.

>>51137347
They give H&R to the model and the model spreads the rule to his unit.

>>51137361
Inb4 it was all a joke that you took way to seriouslly

>>51137361
How the fuck can you survive in Colorado without driving?

NEET?

>>51137363
She also retains IC so can be attached to the deathstar of your choice. You could run her WITH Smashfucker if you wanted.

>>51137094
hey, look, her psychic powers work against monstrous creatures but not walkers HMMMMM

>>51137094
so does she also get the primaris of telepathy seeing as she has a fixed extra power??

>>51137126
Word Bearers Omnibus.

It's pretty good, in my opinion.

Rolled 6, 2 = 8 (2d6)

>>51137329
>>51137339
>Anon issues order:
GET BACK IN THE FIGHT

>>51137375
That's what I've read, but I don't see anything that says that.
The text for the Thrusters just says:
>A model with vectored rectro-thrusters has both the Fleet and Hit & Run special rules.

>>51137043
What if you literally did 40k mordehiem?

Some frontier planet has secret warp experiment going on, BOOM, hive city is destroyed but showered in super powerful anti-warp stone.

Factions are:
Inquisition/scions/guard, come to cover up by any means and take all the stone back for study.
Blood angel chapter here to purge the corruption and destroy the stone.
Word bearers/traitors/daemons here to corrupt the stone because they think anti-warp is heresy.
Necrons sent by Tarzyn to collect the curios.
Dark eldar sent by vect because he stock piling anything to save his skin when khein's gate breaks.
Genestealer cult that just happened to be there.
Free boota Orks hired by a mysterious 3ed party.

What am I still missing?

>>51137423
Did you look at what the hit and run special rule does.

>>51137421
If Sarge is still alive, we're all good boys!!

>>51137387
Public buses and walking. I just walked 6 miles today just to do some grocery shopping. It's how I survived in SoCal. Taking me awhile to adapt to the cold though.

>>51137367
>2d6 I10 hits plus Canticles
Missing half on average, so 5 hits. Wounding with 2.5 against T4 he's unlikely to even get a wound off my cheap KDK lord before he Decapitating Blows him.

>>51137402
She's not an IC. She's Unique.

>>51137454
I think an Ork sniper got him tho

>>51137211
Tell him that since his shop has fallen, he can no longer possess miniatures.

How can the Tryanids have such badass models and such genuinely shit rules... Why God... Why...

Looks like Necrons it is.

>>51137453
Oh.

>>51137469
You're a moron.

>>51137469
>She's not an IC.

But she is anon, please read.

Rolled 6, 1 = 7 (2d6)

>>51137470
>Ork sniper hits, somehow.
>4+ to wound 6+ to rend

>>51137469
It says she can be attached to other units, and her guards(just human versions of fenrisan wolves) attach and detach with her. oddly enough, with RaW she can make look out sirs in a challenge onto them

>>51137468
You still need to get through a 2+ Look Out Sir and a 5+ invulnerable save, and that's after rolling a 6 to Wound.

>inb4 but you can't LoS in challenges

He doesn't need to accept a challenge, just any other Character in his unit. If he's in a deathstar of some sort any other tech-priest jobber can step forward to take the challenge.

Rolled 5, 5 = 10 (2d6)

>>51137421
>>51137454
>>51137470
Good thing the vox is still up lads!

>>51137497
>precision shot but no wounds

>>51137497
SARGE IS DEAD
FLEE

>>51137517
*BLAM* Who dare takes all of Cadia and no commissar! That is Heresy!

>>51137542
CADIA STANDS BUT WITH ONE LESS MAN

>these rules for cawl

I don't want to play the game anymore /tg/

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>>51137469
I don't know what you think IC means, but it means Independent Character, meaning her unit is free to join with or separate from other units at will. It's listed under her "normal" special rules, and she even has a unique special rule detailing how it works with her meatshields.

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>>51137586
>tfw you come to the realization that the rules aren't the worst part, nor will be playing against him
>tfw what is absolutely killing my enthusiasm is that Imperiumfags will actually insist he's balanced while condemning Riptides in the same breath

>>51137280
Maybe instead of playing with plastic toy soldiers you should, I dunno, get a fucking drivers license & move out of your parents house.

>>51137510
Yeah but that'd be using outside help. I was comparing him to a cheap KDK Lord in challange potential.

>>51137631
I actually live by myself, but thanks for making assumptions. Haven't seen my mom since I was six and I have no clue who my dad is, so it's not like I could live with my parents anyways.

>>51137617
If my opponent brought 3 Belisarius Cawls and they had guns that could reach more than a pathetic 12" and evaporate whole units and still have other guns to shoot afterwards and then JSJ out of line of sight, I'd be condemning his rules too.

>>51137617
I'm more excited about adding in Carfax to my army. She doesn't seem so bad. Celestine and Cawling in my skin seem pretty strong and resiliant though.

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>>51136990
I'll take him on

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>>51137062
>comes with an orbital strike
>sword is also a heavy flamer
>is dam near unkillable
Let the purging begin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RLPG88u3lM

>>51137678
What ever happened to the imperial space marine. I thought he was suppose to break the game.

>>51137656
Basically won't ever happen that way though, he's not mean to be a champion who fights epic duels, he's a disgustingly resilient force multiplier who brings a massive entourage of followers and retainers with him.

Like how a Warlord should actually be built, to be honest.

>>51137658
>live alone but hate driving to where you don't have a driver's license
I thought i was the only one

>>51137663
>it's all about guns
But that's wrong. He doesn't need to be a shooting powerhouse himself if he can boost Skitarii to BS10 and add up to 3 BS to any and all fucking Imperial vehicles while also ensuring that they will never fucking die.

You play Marines, don't you? You don't know the meaning of a force multiplier.

>>51137606
>>51137488
>>51137482
Idiots.

>>51137693
He's not impactful enough to break the game.

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>>51137062
>5 attacks
>I 7
>5W
bitchin'

>>51137617
Even if they don't think he's OP in isolation even the imperium fags admit super-friends lists are next level bullshit.

Running him outside a pure CM army is, therefore, WAAC.

>>51137728
Pity she's only ap 3.

Is Magnus the Red equivalent to three Belisarius Cawls or Celestines?

Comparing these guys stats and cost to WoM and what Ahriman and Magnus can do is just sad.

>>51137702
I still think SM and Eldar commanders should follow that trend desu. Unlike Orks, Eldar and KDK their culture is not built around single combat.

>>51137693
He's great, he's killed himself as many times as he's killed an enemy model in my games. It's always hilarious no matter what he does

>>51137706
No, I play Tyranids.

And yes, it is about the combination of durability and ridiculous firepower and mobility that Riptides have that make them retarded to play against, and yes, the fact that you can only have one of him DOES mitigate how powerful he is.

This guy is tougher than a 'tide but he doesn't have the same mobility to get him into position, or the same firepower to make him a threat that NEEDS to be brought down otherwise you lose. His Canticles are one-use-only like all Canticles and if you shoot the units to death that are benefitting from them you solve the problem. I can shoot a squad of Fire Warriors off the board to save myself from a Riptide pie plate.

>>51137418
yes

>>51136990
tanky, i like it

>>51137741
Is Magnus equivalent to one Cawl?

>>51137779
>tanky
Tanks are easier to kill

>>51137711
I don't get the joke.

>>51137715
i remember that people were bitching that he was insanely OP

>>51137759
Cawl puts even the likes of Eldrad to shame.
>there's only a 5 point difference between the two

>>51137764
Agreed.

>>51137738
not every character needs initiative AP2.
She'll tear apart Space Marine squads before they even have a chance to attack her

>>51137770
That free model once ID'd my full wounds bloodthirster.
good thing I also summoned it for free!

>>51137705
It's easier for me to just take the bus or walk. I work at a callcenter, so I sit down most of the day anyways. Having a car just means more sitting down. lol

>>51137771
>I can shoot a squad of Fire Warriors off the board to save myself from a Riptide pie plate.
can't*

>>51137792
skitarii please, it's an expression not meant to be taken literally in 40k

>>51137807
>She'll tear apart Space Marine squads
Heretic

I hope they're lords of war, so people can't abuse them as much as /tg/ thinks they will.

Incoming St Celestine Buffs:
* 200pts, comes with her 2 Geminae Superia included.
* 5wounds, up from 3 otherwise her statline is the same.. AND SHE HAS ETERNAL WARRIOR!!! (technically she doesn't have the Shield of Faith special rule any more, and neither do the Geminae, but Celestine gets Adamantium Will to make up for it)
* The Ardent Blade now has the Armourbane rule, otherwise the same.
* Celestine gets a once per game Orbital Barrage called The Emperor's Vengeance! Range Unlimited, S8, AP3, Assault 1, Barrage, Large Blast, Orbital.
* Geminae Superia are WS5, BS4, S3, T3, I4, 2W, 2A, 3+ Armour
* Celestine can join units along with her Geminae!!
* Geminae have Divine Guardian rule. This gives them a 4+ Invuln, and whilst any of them are alive all wounds against Celestine are resolved against the closest Geminae instead!
* Healing Tears: At the start of each of your turns, set up a single slain Geminae anywhere within 2" of Celestine! Looks like mum isn't the only one who can come back from the dead!
* Miraculous Intervention is unchanged from the ebook, other than that it specifies she can use Healing Tears to bring a Geminae back to life on the turn she 'resurrects'

>>51137799
Ahriman cost 30 point more then Cawl. If you add the disk to make him usable its 60.

Magnus is powerful but the army behind him is no existent and is just there to support him.

Cawl is just nuts.

>>51137617
>lumping Mechanishits with Imperiumfags

Fuck you and fuck Mechanicum. I already have to put up with getting shit for all the faggot chapters, IG, and SoB, I'm not about to shoulder some robot fetishist's faggot autism too.

>>51137807
she'll tear apart anything that isn't elite or another hero.

>>51137817
I've done that. It's hilarious.

>>51137851
senpai desu.

* Saintly Blessings: Celestine can give a 12" radius buff to friendly non-vehicle Army of the Imperium units at the start of each of your turns. Each buff can only be used once per game, and affect units based on their Battlefield Role (independent chars get effected as long as they stay in the unit):
HQ Units: Zealot until the start of the next turn
Troops: FNP 6+ until the start of next turn. If models already have FNP, they get a +1 bonus to FNP instead...
Elites: Counter-Attack and Furious Charge until start of next turn
Fast Attack: Crusader and Fleet until start of next turn
Heavy Support: Relentless until start of next turn
Lord of War: It Will Not Die for the rest of the game.
In addition to all that, any army that contains Celestine (or is from a Wrathful Crusade formation or Castallens of the Imperium detachment) lets characters take items from the new Ecclesiarchy Relics list. Choices include a 35pt Eternal Warrior relic, 15pt S4 AP2 pistol that ignores invulnerable saves, a 35pt relic that gives a 4+ invuln save and stops Deep Strikes within 12" (if they scatter within 12", auto mishap!) and a 30pt Power Sword that on a pass Ld Test becomes S+2, AP2.

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>>51137831
Im no bloody skittery eye

>>51137807
A 2+ is like the price of entry for the test for being a good independent character.

She'll just lose in any real fight.

>>51137851
If you don't play Space Marines, IG, Sisters or Mech what the fuck Imperium do you play, faggot?

>>51137212
All those cultists are Infiltrators though. And they're getting set up during Cult Ambush.

>>51137889
>all the faggot chapters

Vanilla you dipshit

>>51137869
So she doesn't even have to be in the same unit to boost smashfucker's fnp, as long as he's w troops.

>>51137843
What's the difference when you know GW are just going to give them their own one model formations to help sell them?

>>51137899
So the most OP one? And you're whining about people who play shit like Guard, Grey Knights and Blood Angels? Neck yourself.

>>51137899
This has to be bait.

>>51137909
...i hope they sell out quickly so people won't be able to spam them in every list?

Hell, at least they're Imperial only.

Greyfax seems really expensive at 150 points for not doing much

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>>51137899
Shut the fuck up you god damn Taufag, nobody believes your shit

>>51137869
Damn

>>51137843
They're HQs and can replace any HQ in any Imperium Codex. They also have a Formation that let's you take just the three of them together.

>>51137949
She's worth about 100, but the 50 is tax for being a qt.

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Anyone got a sec to crit my list, not for a tournament. Just for playing with friends and pickup games but I'd like to be able to win some. Really want to make an angelic themed army and convert the dreadknights into something similar to Diablo 2 Tyrial. I don't have any experience in playing sisters but I've finally gotten the around to making a list I think will work.

1850 points Purge the Heretic

CAD Sisters of Battle 1084pts

1 x Saint Celestine 135pts

4 x BSS 141pts (564pts)
SoB
- Heavy Flamer 10pts
Sister Superior
- Melta bombs 5pts
Immolator
- Heavy Flamer
- Stormbolter 5pts

1 x Seraphim squad 125 pts
4 x hand flamers 10pts

2 x Exorcist 130pts (260pts)
- storm bolter 5pts

GK Nemesis strike force 766pts

1x Librarian 115pts
-Daemon hammer 5pts

1x Terminator Squad 201pts
Terminators
-4 x falchions 4pts
- Psycannon 20pts
Justicar
-Nemesis force sword

2 x Nemesis Dreadknight 225pts (450pts)
- Heavy Incinerator 20pts
- Heavy Psycannon 35pts
- Personal Teleporter 30pts
- Greatsword 10pts