Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

what is the best way to make a chaos terminator army? I want to play 40k but I heard terminators cost too many points. if I take two squads of 10 terminators will I lose all the time?

>>51064836
terminators aren't worth it, points and money wise

if you want big tanky chaos, run death guard

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GGA Finally inspired me to get off my ass and get back to work on my Space Shermans.

Behold my Space-LTV: The Chimera Beta. Hopefully she came out alright.

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>>51064767

You guys ready to spend money for some cards

To celebrate the launch of The Gathering Storm: Fall of Cadia we are giving away a series of 3 art cards, 1 with every order of $99 or more.

These cards are exclusive to Games-Workshop.com and are each available for one week, or until we run out of stock.

Each card is available from the following dates so make sure you place an order each week so you can collect them all!

Archmagos Dominus Belisarius Cawl art card : Saturday 7th January to Friday 13th January 2017.
Inquisitor Katarinya Greyfax art card: Saturday 14th to Friday 20th January 2017.
Saint Celestine art card: Saturday 21st to Friday 27th January 2017.

Fifth for Fall of Cadia is shit.
Book about destruction of Cadia, not about IG and a lot of this book about events outside Cadia.

>>51064896
ech, anon that looks awesome. is the conversion yours? or do you have a link to instructions somewhere? I think that'd give my renegades a really nice unique touch.

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>>51064919

Sounds meh to be honest. This is why people feared GW pushing the story forward. AoS and recent campaign books like Warzone Damocles just show GW's writers are a bunch of hacks.

Hey, I don't know if this is the right place to put his but I figured I'd ask anyways just in case somebody knew or had experience here.

I'm playing in a Killteam Tourney the next couple of weeks but I'm concerned about the lack of anti-tank in my list.

Is putting the Haywire Specialist rule onto a Heavy Bolter team a good idea? I figure it doesn't matter if I don't break str5 if I can just haywire something to death.

>>51064896
Gib instrucionals guide

>>51064836
Terminators are pretty bad. Chaos does them somewhat better for two reasons:

-You can run 3-man units of Terminators.
-They can take Combi-Plasma.

This is what's usually called Termicide. The Annihilation Force is a formation that makes this even more fun as it lets the Terminators shoot immediately after Deep Strike...which can actually be useful for a fair few reasons.

The big problem is that Grav mulches Terminators dead :/>>51064896

>>51064955
I used a chimera setback tutorial, then augmented it with a few of my own additions. Here is the link:
http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/forces-imperium/193191-chimera-conversion-set-back-turret.html

and a second varient for bradley fans:

http://theback40k.blogspot.com/2010/04/converting-set-back-chimeras-part-i.html

The rear hatch is the box cover from the Leman Russ kit (I replaced said box with a fuel tank)

The turret bussel is brass wire and superglue. Make sure you drill holes in the back of the turret to fit the brass in because gluing the cage streight on won't work.

The thingy on the far side of the turret is the hunter killer rail mounted on the prongs of the tank accessories cupola, with the little antenna peice from the chimera kit glued on the back. It mounts the hunter-killer missile, but will also hold the a heavy weapon so people don't ask how I can fire autocannons out the rear hatch.

The two sleeping bags and the lascarbine are removable; hullpoint counters so I don't need to balance dice on my models.

The track guards are the long track guard combined with the medium track guard with the angled end sawed off, an greenstuff liberally applied then sanded off.

>>51065067
>They can take Combi-Plasma
or combi-melta

they're also cheaper than loyalist terminators, since they aren't paying for the power fist up front

>>51065087
I forgot to mention: The guys in the instructions used plasticard to cover seams. I preferred to greenstuff the seams and sand them flat.

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>>51064896
>Shermans.
Why?
Personally I don't understand why those were used at all, high profile little tommy cookers.
build a cromwell instead

>>51064767
Forgot to link it in the other thread you moron Edition more like

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is this Dark Eldar ?

>>51065172
No, this is Patrick.

>>51065183
Kek

>>51064919
I'm withholding judgement until tomorrow or so when Veteranoob over on B&C gets his review copy and starts dropping spoilers

>>51065172
Age of Sigmar.

So I was bored and wrote a Genestealer Cult list I call Geneblower. This is how I would run GSC once people learn how to defend against Uprising.

++Cult Insurrection++
+Brood Brothers+
-Leman Russ Exterminator w/ Lascannon and Multimelta - 160 [Warlord]

+Neophyte Cavalcade+
-Leman Russ, same loadout - 160
-10 Neophytes, 2 Mining Lasers, Chimera w/ Multilaser & Heavy Bolter - 145
-Neophyte & Chimera, same loadout - 145
Armored Sentinel w/ Multilaser and Hunter Killer Missile - 50
Armored Sentinel, same loadout - 50

++Two Demolition Claws++
5 Acolytes, Demolition Charge, Goliath - 110
-Copy this 5 more times - 550
-Goliath Rockgrinder w/ Clearance Incinerator - 80
-Copy this 5 more times - 550

Total: 1850

That's 18 vehicles, most which can infiltrate/outflank. The Neophytes Infiltrate their Chimeras and use them as makeshift bunkers, and the Acolytes took Goliaths because Infiltrating Twin-Linked Autocannons with Tank Hunters are boss.

Everything else is about mech warfare and going space ISIS on your foes.

Nth for comfy, early late-night thread. Anyone wanna post WIP pics? I need motivation to get off my ass and start painting.

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>>51065232
no, because it's 10:30

I am painting the other ogryn, though.

>>51064836
You wouldn't want to take two massive squads like that. As others pointed out, Chaos terminators can come in squads of 3 and get combi-weapons.

This could be useful as a chunk of your force, with small teams dropping down to blast melta at tanks or plasma at heavy infantry, then rushing into melee if they survive.

It isn't the sort of thing that could make up an entire force though, and the only other way to deliver them would be a Land Raider.

>>51065262
Why'd you use Nork's chest?

Nice to see someone else who likes Ogryn though.

>>51065094
I personally prefer Combi-Plas as it's more useful against a wider variety of targets, and it has a more forgiving range-band which helps since Chaos doesn't get scatter-mitigation.

One particular thing I'd try is running squads of 4 in the Terminator Annihilation Force. This way they can drop down, fire 2 Combi-Weapons at the unit that is "Targeted for Annihilation," then fire 2 at another target.

Black Legion can probably stick with running base units though. Drop down, fire your weapons, then fan out, taking advantage of Crusader to "roll two, drop lowest" when running. Don't forget to give the Lord/Sorcerer a Burning Brand too, because shooting that twice on the DS turn is fun.

>>51065262

>not staying up late on a Friday
Those are top notch, the camo pattern on the ogryn and stripes and lenses on the scion are really good

>>51065172
New Cadian rough riders

Why can't we replace shitty squad leader melee weapons with a normal rifles anymore?

My 8 years old IG army is actually unplayable now, because I haven't built a single model with chainswords.

>>51065297
Because he's my bone 'ead, but I didn't want to use the bone 'ead head.

If I ever do a nork stand in, he'll be in a squad with a commissar and won't need the little buddy on his shoulder to remind him of his orders.

>>51065322
Ah alright, fair enough. Looks great, by the way.

>>51065317
Skitarii says hi.
T:My_Warlord_Has_Radiumcarbine

>>51064896
that looks awesome. mirin

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>>51065262

>>51064898
if its 50cm its good. if its postcard its shit.

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>>51065348
shhh

>>51065067
how are combi-weapons good if you only get one shot

>>51065271
Some people on Dakka are talking about Butcherhorde Terminators starting on-table, especially if the Talisman of Burning Blood is involved (so now they're almost as fast as Wraiths).

The difference between 9 S5 attacks and 12 S6 attacks does add up after all, and re-rolling charges is also pretty nice.

To a lesser extent, Alpha Legion get Mindveil shenanigans for ninja terminators.

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>mfw I really wanna run a Cohort Cybernetica for a bullshit Robutt deathstar but it's about 780 points by itself

I mean, I know I'll eventually just bite the bullet and run a War Convocation, but right now I just want to H A V E F U N.

That being said, what's the most efficient way to slap Kastelans in an army? One squad doesn't seem like it'd be as effective as two, but even then that's 6 T7 wounds on a 12 shot S6 AP3 spitting monstrous creature with their own special orders.

Maybe I'm better off with a Battle Congregation. But then I'm just taking two squads of Breachers and at that point I oughta just run Holy Requisitioner.

What do? How can I fit my fun robot dudes in at around 1500 points and still be halfway competitive?

>>51065002
I think that rule only applies to the model's close combat attacks.
Grab an autocannon instead, and maybe give it relentless if LOS is a problem. you seldom go wrong with those.

>>51065393

Would you rather have one shot or zero shots?

>>51065393
Some targets need to die *fast* and if you're in range to fire Plasma or Melta weapons, then you better do the job or else you're in for a world of hurt.

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>>51064896
I approve wholeheartedly anon!!! Check out what I was painting earlier.

So shitty Imperial Agents codex, now shitty Fall of Cadia, what next? Guilliman back to life?
Lets hope not, he will weaken Imperium another time.

>>51065479
Krieg...Hund?

>>51065456
This. Combi-weapons are usually about maximizing your firepower when you need it. Combi-melta might make the difference between dead Knight when you pod next to it and Combi-grav might kill that last tactical marine you need to wipe out to get the objective.

>>51065403
Just a unit of 1 is plenty strong, anon. Or do an Elimination Maniple.

That said, I don't think there's anything wrong with doing a Dominus Maniple + Cohort Cybernetica + Skitarii Maniple 2 bring 2 more squads of Vanguard for boots on the ground

>>51065399
Hmm...I see how that could work fairly well. It certainly saves you a lot compared to buying a land raider.

I'm still getting used to all the aspects of the update. There's a lot of things to consider.

>>51065496
According to my shitty German that translates to War Dog

>>51065479
Better fix those gaps and that mold line on the barrel and the front mounted lascannon before someone gets pissy. Also consider some highlighting or...shit anything to highlight that gray. Unless you're not done yet?

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They aren't amazingly well painted, but they're mine and I love them.

>>51065521
Kriegshund
Sorry, anon

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Some of the Imperial forces participating in the Fall of Cadia.

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New release. I didn't knew a decad old model counted as a new release.

So any leaks for Fall of Cadia or is it going to be another disapointment as Impirial Agents?

>>51065558
Inb5 all ig players mutiny when fall of cadia doesnt do shit for guard (which so far from leaks is true)

>>51065558
The typical leak/review source on B&C has had his copy delayed because of snowmageddon 2017, so nothing yet.

>>51065556
>deathwatch
literally why

I mean I know why, but now that it's been reduced to a chaos/imperial affair they have no horse in the race.

WHERE IS THE LINK TO ARMYBUILDER, OP. YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE LINK!

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>>51065486
>not having space Julius Caesar+Marcus Aurelius mixed together to lead the imperium
Stay plebeian

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Iron Hands chapter tactics, fun walker assault army

>>51065538
They're definitely table ready anon. Better that than the people that spray everything one colour and field it.

Is it worth buying tabletop simulator if I want to practice the game while I'm building up my army?

>>51065556
also big black templar and sisters crusade. and a lot of cadian regiments but still fluff have only 136 pages and a lot of it is even not on cadia >:-.(

>>51065546
Think I can get away with it without someone sperging out on it?

>>51065556
Considering the wolves are beyond pissed the fuck off at the moment I'm kind of surprised they wont be making an appearance.

>>51065556
Where'd you get this, Anon?

>>51064767
>Dear Emperor, I hope I did this right Edition
Nope, wrong OP template, with shit0din.

>>51065611
Why the 10 man tac squad, and why vet sarge/power weapon?

Why power weapon on a plasma squad that can't charge?

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Nth for NONE PURER

>>51065619
No

>>51065631
I don't get it, it's just German?

>>51065631
I mean, it's kinda sloppily written but other than that I probably wouldn't even notice it.

>>51065619
If you have someone to play with.

>>51065631
Language gets bastardized all the time, god knows what 10000 years would do to German

>>51065262
That looks amazing. I love Bullgryn. I really want to make mine look good, but I'm shit at painting, so it will never look good. They are basically one of my favorite Guard units though. I wish they were better or got access to cheaper power weapons. 15 points on a 45 point model is ridiculous. That should be a free upgrade for their price.

>>51065667
I was just freehanding it during a moment of inspiration. Hopefully it's readable.

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>>51064767
>Space 0Din
You fuck it up, big time.

>>51065611
dat leviathan desciption.

>>51065693
Get a Micron Pen, do fancy shit.

>>51065631
You could try and say it's Low Gothic, which is basically English with a couple loan words from other languages (seen in planet names like Kreig).

>>51065681
>That should be a free upgrade for their price.
the ogryn/bullgryn mix is stupid to begin with

They should just be able to choose wargear on an individual basis. Some with guns, some with shields.

>>51065651
That much purity is a fire hazard!

>>51065735
His honor guard is on standby with extinguishers

Is there an army list builder I can use with traitor legions yet?

>>51065750
battlescribe

can someone tell me some solid discount GW sites here in the United States?

>>51065750
notepad++

>>51065754
Frontlinegaming.

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>space marines

>>51065640
They can charge if they don't shoot their guns.
I usually don't shoot my most powerful guns if I'm going to charge because I just might screw up my charge, it's happened before.
The presence of Vet Sergeant Kickass is not to be questioned.

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>>51065514
I tried to work with that same idea, but it ended up being the Cohort, 2 more vanguards, and a dominus. That was about the whole army. No possible way to break av14 either unless I get lucky on plasma, perhaps.

So with an elimination maniple that actually leaves me enough points to start throwing some more Skitarii in the fold. Specifically some Ironstriders and junk. With my mainly gunline army, a unit of outflankers that move crazy fast will really help wreck the backfield, especially if they come out turn one or two.

I actually really like this list, even if it's a bit heavy on the formations.

>>51065790
>I2

>Fall of Cadia contains a wealth of new rules content for Warhammer 40,000:

> the Triumvirate of the Imperium – a formation bringing these three characters together;

> - the Grand Convocation and Imperial Crusade detachments – combine Cult Mechanicus, Skitarii and Mechanicus Knights in one army, and Black Templars and Adepta Sororitas in another;

>>51065793
>They can charge if they don't shoot their guns

...then why buy the gun? You're basically only going to be firing it by the time you're in range to charge anyways. It's a waste of 15 points. Take a meltagun or flamer instead, at least with melta you can pop a transport and then rush it or something.

>vet sarge kickass

Story?

take out space odins garbage shitty op retard bitch.

What would you bring for a competitive alpha legion list? max. chosen and a lost and damned formation?

>>51065732
That'd be nice. It's a shame they can't have Slabshields and Power Mauls at the same time, because that is what I would take.

They really need a point decrease for what they can do. Ripper Guns also need to be longer range. 18 inches and maybe Assault 4 with Shred.

Ideally, I'd keep them how they are mostly, but they would be 30 points for Ogryn, 30 points for Bullgryn, make them both 4+ save, make Ripper Guns what I said above, and then for 5 points you could replace the grenade launcher with a Power Maul on Bullgryns. That way you could have 3+ save guys with S7 AP4 melee weapons. Free upgrade to switch to Brute Shield from Slabshield.

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>>51065790
>xenos

>>51065860
My sides holy fuck.

>>51065828
>Fall of Cadia
>No Cadians

>>51065884
There's Cadians, it's just that most of them have already died. Creed's around, if that helps.

>>51065399

You could use 5 in a Dreadclaw, too, and rock them 30k style. Hell, take a Kharybdis and you can jam 10 in there, but that's a lot of points.

>>51065884

There are no Cadians on Cadia.

>>51065973
Not anymore.

Does it matter if I get the White Scars or Raven Guard datacards over the normal Space Marines datacards? Is the difference just in the bonus cards?

>>51065753

I am using battlescribe. Do you know what program I need to save and open the files on it, they dont have a link to what they are using

>>51065884
the punchline is they aren't fighting on cadia, and abaddon was tricked into attacking some other, completely unrelated planet

>>51065836
>>vet sarge kickass
He's a sergeant that stabs bikes to death a lot. He took a wound off of a dreadknight once too, and makes a lot of feel no pain rolls. Killed a sanctioned psyker and got promoted.

I prefer the plasma gun because its got better range so it's not just sitting around being useless until I get weapons range. A flamer or metlagun will get maybe one shot off before combat and the unit most likely gets tied up for the game. I'll consider your advice though, the plasma gun makes that small squad uncomfortably expensive.

>>51065998
>Trazyn releases an entire planet with pylons on it from a tesseract vault just to fuck with Failbadon

>>51065998
>Castelan Creed misdirects the entire Chaos battlefleet into attacking a totally unrelated planet

CREEEEEED

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>>51066063
Didn't know Creed was black.

How do you find motivation to paint+build when there is no one around to play with? The only two gaming stores around are totally devoid of any kind of TTG besides MtG, and no none wants to start because "it's too expensive."

I feel like I'm going crazy, and have no motivation to work on anything I have.

>>51066063
>An entire legion of titans and 43 space marine legions are hiding behind a single building
>this destroys the heretics

CREEEEEEEEEEED

>>51066082
Well, for alot of people playing is not even a part of the hobby. Some people just really like to model and paint.

>>51066083
>43 space marine legions
>legions
But anon....

>>51066095

I enjoy it enough, but if I can't use them, the motivation goes away. I can show them off I guess, but to what end?

>>51066112
creed has been keeping them secret. He kept the information secret so chaos would not find out till it was too late.

>>51066112
Creed is just that good.

>>51065857
I'd be a fan of Ripper Guns just being a S4 AP - Assault 2 Rending Template. Like a more primitive Frag Cannon.

>>51066112
creed is like 30 on his own

>>51065637
>>51065696

OP here, do you guys have copy of the correct OP pasta? I just took it off the last thread. First time making the general, sorry.

>>51066131
The only way he could have more legions was if somehow got his hands on the primarch goo, which the AL has.
Which, now that I think about it, may not be impossible. Given boths penchant for infiltrating and hiding things, perhaps creed is in fact alpharius.

>>51066083
Could you even fit 43 legions on Cadia? Like, where would they all be?

That is a fuckton of spece muhreens

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Would a Nurgle-only Daemonic Incursion work well?

I figure the Nurglings can infiltrate to tag as many objectives as possible early on and force my opponent to split up to go after them. Furies because I have to have the aux choice. They basically just tag objectives and distract. Then the big boys can go after the weakest links.

Everyone rolls on Biomancy probably. Maybe the princes on Plague since they can get Stream of Corruption and Plague Wind in range easily.

>>51066168
It's not a planet with Space Marines on it anymore, it's a planet OF Space Marines

>>51066168
>Could you even fit 43 legions on Cadia? Like, where would they all be?

Behind a single building, like the anon said.

>>51066168
>Like, where would they all be?

they're already behind you

>>51065224
Or should I call it Leafstealer?

>>51066149
I just feel like they need more range if they are supposed to be the shooting variant. More range and actually good guns. There's no real reason to take them over Bullgryn because Bullgryn still get a 12 inch ranged weapon, but for 5 points more they essentially get a 3+ armor save, access to power weapons that can bash open tanks and MCs easy, and they give cover to units behind them.

>>51066082
Go to an actual Games Workshop, or set up a Craiglist or Facebook group looking for players. They'll come out of the woodwork.

>>51066168
>The despoilers face was contorted with shock and the warp echoed with the cry of CREEEEEEEEED as he realized that the planet his forces landed on was not actually a planet, but a mass of titans and space marine legions

>>51066199

The nearest gw is a literal hole in the wall that's also an hour and a half away.

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>>51065651
never thought I would see my own model posted here

>>51066236
Post another pic

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Finalized my list for tomorrow's 2-day long 5v5 Apoc bloodbath.
Basically it's "good" vs evil kill points. Each player gets a warlord and the team elects a Warmaster. Teams are:
>GK,DE, Tau, CWE, Dark Angels, Space Marines, Imperial Knights, Deathwatch, IG, Admech(I think?), BA vs.
>Chaos Daemons, CSM, Orkz, Cronz, Nids, GSC

>>51066273
>DE
>good

u wot

>>51065172
It's part of the new Sigmarine character, Justice Lightgood, Knight-Somethingorother of the Stormcast Etermals. I hear he's part of a campaign box with a second new character, Bloodlord Bloodman "Blood" Goreblood of the Khorne Bloodbound.

Blood.

>>51066321
Notice the quotes around the word, fampai.

>>51066158
>>51055697
Always Caplocks When Naming The Edition Except For The Edition edition

>Freshest Rules in Epub (Use Readium for PC or Kobo on Android inb4 >SPYWARE)
https://mega.nz/#F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!2tgBUTYI

>Not always current PDFs:
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>List Builder that is cool and memeic
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>As current as the FAQs get
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

>The Black Library (I wonder how long people will mindlessly copy this without changing it):
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q!c4pGAJDb

>>51065556
'Member when the colour plates in the Codexes didn't look like they were knocked together in Adobe Illustrator in five minutes? I 'member.

>>51066158
>>51066347
And you can include a link to the previous thread.

>>51066338
Literally the most evil race, not even in quotes does that apply.

>>51066363
Even they have a price, anon. What's to say the Imperium won't promise to hand over some of the Tau and Guardsmen and before they hit the webway portal the Grey Knights come up and mindwipe the rest.

We have any leaks of fall of cadia yet? Any new rules for templars?

>>51066354

Awww yeah I member! Member when Rhinos had no hull poiiiiints?

>>51066388
Nope, because the review copies haven't arrived yet due to snow storms.

>>51066354
'Member when nobody thought plastic models would cost more than pewter? I 'member.

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>>51066254
Here's his back

Fun fact he actually solo'd the local WAACfags 500 point space marine test list in his first game. (and I do mean solo'd. As the last man he killed a dreadnought, 2 tac squads, and a chapter master)

>>51066422
Remember when Pewter Daemonetts cost $35 for 10?

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>>51066425
He....He's beautiful.

>>51066431
ooo! ooo! 'member when codex supplements cost a few bucks and had great crunch and fluff?

>>51066431
Nigga you need a chinaman in your life

>>51066449
But I actualy want to support my FLGS...which means buying shit there.

>>51066425
>solo'd the local WAACfags 500 point space marine test list in his first game

How the fuck did you manage that?

Chaos Daemons are considered friendly with Chaos Space Marines, correct?

>Wrathful Crusade
>Black Templars are main Space Marine force of the siege
>Formation is named after their "signature thing"
>Formation doesn't require Black Templar Chapter Tactics

They better just not be listed on the website but are required for the actual rules. This thing will most likely only every be used for fluff purposes anyway so they might as well put a fluff limitation on it.

Hell, they didn't even bother taking an extra picture of the BT squads for the separate squad photos on their website, even though they have them painted as BTs for the full formation image

>>51066425
HIS FAITH IS HIS SHIELD

>>51066425
I love you anon.

So how do you guys feel about buying already built/painted models from eBay?

I know it's usually rather cheap, but at the same time I sorta feel dirty in that I didn't build them myself.

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>get BTFO in every conflict where they can't just butcher unarmed civilians
>hundreds of them were defeated by one Ultramarine and his army of literal spear-wielding peasants

Are Night Lords the biggest joke in the galaxy?

>>51066489
To add onto this:
>Crusaders still not allowed

>>51066499
No, that would be the Crimson Slaughter.

>>51066485
they are about the only thing other than renegade knights that is

>>51066483
Did you not see the purity seals?

>>51066425
Where the hell did you get all the purity seals? Holy shit

>>51066498
Build and paint your army, buy your cannon fodder

>>51066525
Then what Daemon Infantry benefit most from getting to move 12 inches?

I'm thinking Daemonettes

>>51066498
I'm ok with buying pre built. I'm not OK with buying pre painted.

Painting them is what makes them feel like my own.

>>51066499
>defeated by Mary Sue: the Legion

>>51066553
What allows any daemon infantry to move 12 inches?

>>51066553
khorne could work well

more or less guarantees the charge and hammer if you roll anything decent

>>51066569
>>51066571
Astral Grimoire

>>51066544
This guy right here.
Try buying 200 guardsmen. Yeah. Thats a whole lot of cash at $27 per 10.

Ebay... total spent was around $120 with a bit of work on simple green.

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>>51066194
>>51065224

I like the idea anon, I've been thinking of running demo claws myself since my buddies just bubble wrap flamers on everything now.

>>51066553
Cant join Marin ICs to Codex daemon units.

For shits and gigs attach a talisman of burning blood and some random bike or disc sorcerers to a unit of KDK Hellhounds

>>51066425
I'm somewhat tempted to make my own but I feel like that would tarnish the sanctity that is this model. Absolutely beautiful.

>>51066578
Just brought a bunch of guardsmen off there myself, bit of work but fuck me it's cheap.

Best day of my life will be Cadian sprue update as the market floods with fuckloads of cheap guardmen.

>>51065556
Shame I can't read the names, I wanted to see the relevant chapters participating.

>>51066591
I know they can't join.
Sorcerer runs alongside them with some spawn to the bullets

>>51066498
Unless I see some super great deal on either a surprisingly well painted vehicle or one that is base painted and that I can easily improve upon I tend to keep my eBay purchases to infantry. Getting 40 "meh" painted space marines for 40 bucks or less is definitely worth not having the greatest looking shit for when you really feel like flooding the board with 60 guys at 1500 points.

>>51066612
And if you want to paint them, give them a bath in super clean and paint them your self

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>>51066483
>WAACfag ask for test game
>decide to run two big crusader squads and a ironclad dread because why not.(and of course phisticus because I had just finished painting him)
>both squads die and dreadnought gets meltabombed
>phisticus is alone save for the emperor himself looking down upon him
>proceeds to 1v1 the enemy dread
>wins
>takes on 1 tactical squad
>wins
>WAACfriend decides to separate his last squad from his chapter master
>mfw
>kill the squad then Instant death the chapter master

To be fair WAACpal didn't have the tactical sense to try and kite me he just stood there and let his men get charged by the emperors finest

>>51066495
Thanks

>>51066537
Fiends giving me theirs from spare kits

>>51066598
Every brother deserves a purity seal... some more than others

>>51066608
Where is he hiding? hes a massive bullet magnet.

Should I put Genestealer Cultist heads on some of my guardsmen, /tg/? I'm an IG player and have no intention of playing Genestealer Cults.

>>51066689
Why not? Some look cool and you never know, there might be some xenos lurking.

>>51066662
>Fiends giving me theirs from spare kits
>Fiends
That doesn't sound very pure, anon.

>>51066699
Well I can't deny those numbers, Anon. Will do.

>>51066672
>Sorcerer runs alongside them with some spawn to [eat] the bullets
t5 spawn, despite /tg/s brilliant strategic mind in all things warhammer, do not instantly evaporate

>>51066704
alien fiends I forced to give up purity seals they had stolen

>>51066662
>>51066425
So what is he? Captain with two power fists?

>>51064836
Take a Black Legion CAD: min size Terminator squads as Troops and Dedicated Transports for ObSec Land Raiders.

>>51066730
I run him as a chapter master with two fists or sometimes the shield eternal (as represented by the his purity)

Will Celestine, Greyfax and Cawl be released as separate figures as well or just as the tri-pack?

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>Templars finally show up in a campaign book
>only to play second bananna to other factions

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>>51066747
>5 power fist attacks
Beautiful.

>>51066808
Fuck off, Cadians are getting the boot on their own fucking planet.

>>51064767
I really like Bullgryns and Sentinels. They seem like they are a good fit together because of the height. What are better? Armored Sentinels or Scout?

>>51066825
Then again, Cadians have been the poster child for Astra Militarum for years now.

>>51066841
Armoured.

>>51066846
This is like having Wrath of Magnus but the Wolves don't show up.

>>51066794
Tri pack for now. Seperate boxes sometime later.

>>51066825
Tanith welcomes them to the club.

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which one do you want ?

>>51066873
First and only, anon

>>51066846
>>51066854
Can we wait for proof that they get nothing before starting the bitchfest?

>>51066841
I prefer armored because they completely shrug off bolters and other small arms for their facing.

Also, there was a brief moment where I saw 3 obliterators do something with plasma cannons that made me jizz my pants, so I thought 3 plasma sents were the hottest shit ever. They're an almost guaranteed take for me, even if they aren't optimal.

>>51065067
A Termicide unit will do slightly over a single wound on average to a Riptide with rapid-firing plasma. Even if your entire formation comes in and shoots at the same Riptide, they won't prevent it from blasting them off the table.

Terminator Annihilation Force is absolute dog-shit, and you should have your internet privileges rescinded for being stupid enough to suggest otherwise.

>>51064836
Terminators in general are too expensive for the offensive output and durability. Chaos Space Marine Terminators in minimum sized units armed with Combi-Plasma and maybe a Fist are the most competitive terminator option in the game, and they still aren't very good. 2x10 is a recipe for disaster.

If you have to do a big blob of Terminators, look into doing a deathstar type build. A big brick of Chaos Terminators with a few Sorcerers to buff and provide lethality, coupled with one of the movement enhancing relics (Alpha Legion Mindveil, Thousand Sons Astral Grimoire).

>>51066883
wut

>>51066883
Wolves v. Magnus

or whatever is cringiest

>>51066892
>>51066854
Sweet. Right now I have 1 Armored Sentinel and 3 Scout from when I was younger. I found some pieces to make 1 Scout into an Armored one, but I'm going to have to find pieces to convert the other 2. Right now I'm torn on what to equip them with and what size numbers I should use. I figure Autocannons or Multi-Lasers are the most well rounded gun to use. I hear Lascannons aren't great, but are okay with Prescience.

Plasma Cannons seem great. The one Armored one is equipped with a Plasma Cannon. I was thinking of putting an Enginseer with the Bullgryn so he could be in that squad, protected, but also in base contact with the Sentinels to repair them or to make one of the squad members fire at a different squad.

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>>51066483
>How the fuck did you manage that?
The Emperor protects brother.

What do people bring in alpha legion lists?

What army should I pay? How should I pick one?

>>51066941
Make sure you give your sentinels camo netting and are always behind the bullgryns.

3+ cover

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>>51066959
nothing

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>>51066959
Everything they bring is actually Alpharius

>>51066992
I picked based on what models I liked the most and how much fun I had modeling them.

>>51066992
Typically, it's best to pick based on fluff or aesthetics first. What faction do you like most? Are there any really cool models that you want?

>>51066992
pick whichever one you think looks the best.

Or the one that you think has the coolest fluff

>>51066444
never?

The old supplements were $20 pamphlets with basically no fluff. Alternatively they were exclusive to white dwarf.

>>51066483
>>51066944

More like Space Marines suck ass in a normal game. The minimum requirements for a CAD already cost 200 points. That's only 10 scouts and a naked HQ. You know what that'd get you in other armies? A fucking Riptide.

>>51066425
>dreadnought
>tac squads
>chapter master
>WAAC

Those are literally the shittiest things he could have bought. Most overpriced HQ, worst troop type, and worst vehicle.

>>51066565
>BL inflates legion numbers to make the battles more "epic"
>BL also has the loyalists go through repeated, crippling defeats and totally phyrric victories to make the traitor forces "more of a threat"
>BL realizes they've written themselves into a corner and have to have the traitors fucking annihilated by a tiny fraction of surviving loyalists to have the situation in 40k make even a lick of sense

>>51067008
>>51067009
>>51067012
Fluff wise it seems like a wash. The only thing I know for sure is the imperium fluff doesn't engage me. I like all the other factions a lot

>>51066992
Pick Eldar to curbstomp shitters.

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Batch painting all the skulls and scrolls on my Imperial Fists tonight while listening to A Thousand Sons for the first time in a while. I'm not a big fan of the Space Wolves for obvious reasons, but is Prospero Burns worth reading?

Also, is using Leadbelcher on grey primer worth doing for boltgun metal? I've only used black primer before this.

>>51066994
That sounds delicious, but also expensive for Sentinels. I will probably do that if there are spare points.

Not sure how many of each I should take. What else would be good for that kind of army? Maybe I could do an Emperor's Shield Platoon so the Sentinels could gave out move through cover to the blob and then do a Rampart Detachment.

>>51067059
I never said his list was WAAC it was just his first game playing as space marines because he is usually a necron player.

>>51067075
Well, what are the things you like about those other factions?

>>51067065
Dude, everything is equalized by the fact that traitors are mad and backstabbing each other.

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>>51067082
>I'm not a big fan of the Space Wolves for obvious reasons
>obvious reasons

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>>51067044
>having this little faith
You're lost to me, no longer kin and to be forever hunted down until your very last breath

>>51067082
Listening to Prospero Burns for all the wet leopard growls could be fun.

In all honesty though, no, it's not worth it. It comes across as kinda pretentious with how it tries to shove a new name for the Space Wolves down our throats, it's not particularly well-written or engaging or expository, and it's got the standard Horus Heresy "everything needs to go deeper and have a twist" bullshit going on.

>>51067082
>Prospero Burns worth reading?
Yes, it actually makes the Space Wolves a respectable legion

It's a shame their codex makes them a joke with the wolf shit

t. a massive t-son faggot

>>51066846
And the Ultramarines have been the poster child for space marines since 5th at least. But its not like we're seeing Ultramar explode.

>>51067100
Dark eldar: hedonistic masters of the universe who live on a diet of sex, drugs, and Rock and roll. I like that they apparently have no limits. They see a Tyranid hive fleet and think to themselves: I can steal that.

Tyranids: I love swarm hive mind type races. I'm a Zerg player at heart.

Tau: I like the fluff behind farsight enclaves, and the idea of a battle hardened group of Mecha veterans.

Slaaneshi chaos: cult based around hedonism and perfection.

>>51067128
And what that anon said, it is hamfisted in the attempt to rebrand them.
But it's 40k. It will never push the boundaries of scifi and be an award winner

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>>51067114
I just meant that I'm reading the Thousand Sons book first. Space Vikings are fine by me, though my Fists got their butts kicked by them a few weeks ago. Not sure how to fluff it for my battle log, might blame the Wulfen. Any suggestions?
(Am I the only one who keeps a record of their battles?)

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>>51067121

>>51067135
>And the Ultramarines have been the poster child for space marines since 5th at least.

2nd edition.

>>51067156
You've got four armies in mind, so now look at the models and paint schemes. What's the coolest?

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>>51067082
>siding with Magnus and the thousand sons
Fuck you, fuck you to hell and fuck Magnus, I would raze Prospero every day all day, he fucked all for hubris, fuck him to hell
>ADB
I know his books suck but it makes me hate Magnus even more.

>>51067163
Yes.

Because no one on /tg/ actually plays the game.

>>51067131
>>51067128
Hmmm, I might listen to it, just to get the opposite perspective. Thanks Anons.

Whats the least cheesiest loadout for a Wraithknight? I just really love the model and want to use one at 1850+ without looking like a cheese monger I just really love eldar and i want them to get nerfed so i can use them without people thinking I just want to win

>>51067197
Just don't. People will think you're a cheesemonger regardless.

>>51067197
Pretty much impossible. Best you could do would be either melee so it's at least has to be in position to instantly murder things, or Suncannon, since then it's around the same price it was before with a suncannon, but with the extra Gargantuan benefits.

If you really want to not seem like a cheesemonger, just tell your opponent and bump up the cost of one of those two variants by 100 points or so.

>>51067180
Yeah, Magnus has arrogance out the ass, I like Ahrimain much better as a character because while he is also arrogant sometimes, he recognizes his character flaw and has lots of layers. Looking forward to the Ahrimain book series, if I can find audiobook versions. If not, I can always just add them to my reading list.

DESU the biggest flaw in the Horus Heresy is that GW tried to expand the idea beyond vague legends and apocrypha. Mythical figures work better than the whining Primarchs we got. Still, I've always enjoyed the Star Wars prequels for their cheesiness placed next to a sense of operatic tragedy and scale so the Horse Heresy works in a similar manner. Sorry to ramble, who are tg/'s favorite 40k characters?

>>51067163
IF and Space Wolves butting heads over something sounds fluffy enough. Decided on the field of battle with dummy warhead bolts and combat resolved by first blood. Would still result in trashed equipment and maybe some deaths, but makes more sense than the two engaging in actual battle.

>>51067163
I don't keep records unless I'm planning on doing a BatRep here or on Dakka.

>>51067180
>>51067114
>someone mentions that they dislike Space Wolves
>yiffers immediately start shitposting
Space Wolf lore is an absolute mess of retcons, contradictory depictions, and poor writing/design. There are some nice bits buried in there, like kernels of corn in a turd.

>>51067171
Yeah, apart from GW's brief attempt at putting the Crimson Fists back in the spotlight in early 3rd edition. The 2nd edition vanilla SM Codex was even called Codex: Ultramarines.

>>51067163

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

>>51067121

Good luck I'm behind three multi-lungs.

>>51067253
Ahriman. I love French's Ahriman novels, and I would definitely recommend reading them.

Horus Heresy series would have been fine with tighter editorial control from the beginning, a definite planned timeline, and a stable of authors that weren't going to fuck things up with nonsensical stupidity and axe-grinding.

>>51067156
Well, from there, it's a matter of settling on which one you like the models of most, if you're torn on fluff.

Outside of that, your only option is to try and blend them together as allies in some way. Like Dark Eldar running a gladiatorial arena, picking up both swarms of Tyranids and a few Tau battlesuit veterans to fight in the arena for their amusement.

>>51067254
This makes way more sense, Thanks Anon.

>>51066891
i think he means that we are degraded to 6th in line when it comes to getting attention on a conflict that is on our home world and threatening to destroy it
the first book should have been chaos vs IG

>>51067303
>>51067176
Is it really a sound decision to focus so much on modeling?

Like say I hate shooting, but love Mecha. Tau would still be a bad investment , because the gameplay would be bad.

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>>51067114
>>obvious reasons

>>51067347
If you hate shooting so much, that really rules out...40k.

I think the only real non shooty army would be Daemons, because all of the assaulty armies still rely on shooting for backup. Daemons just don't have guns or anything.

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>>51067272
>apart from GW's brief attempt at putting the Crimson Fists back in the spotlight in early 3rd edition.

Black Templars, it was actually a bit weird because they were still part of the main codex and were only a supplement but somehow this was the cover for the rulebook and the starter set was Black Templars vs Dark Eldar iirc. Someone at the studio really loved the Templars for one edition.

>>51067386
That was just an extreme example, not my actual opinions. The point being that I think gameplay should be a consideration over modeling, and possibly even fluff.

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>>51067347
>Like say I hate shooting, but love Mecha.
t'ork time

>>51067347
In the broadest sense, yes, you should avoid an army if you find the gameplay to just be terrible.

Usually though, that falls into more broad scopes, like elites vs. horde.

Like for your example, it's a matter of why you hate shooting. If it's just hating the idea of sitting in one spot and plinking shots from long range, then a Tau force loaded up with Crisis suits with Flamers and Meltaguns could still be fun for you, since the range on those is effectively assault distance anyway.

The important thing is, you're going to be spending a lot of time and money painting and assembling these models, so it's best you find ones you'll actually enjoy. A lot of armies have a general tactic they do better at, but there's usually a few options within them.

What are your gameplay preferences that you're concerned about though?

>>51067171
>>51067272
I'm not sure you guys are aware of the environment of 2nd edition.

Space Wolves had the first codex of 2e, and were immensely popular. Blood Angels were on the cover of the starter set, and similarly had a lot of focus in the fluff. Dark Angels had the tie ins with Space Hulk and their Deathwing. The Ultramarines had the "default" book and a decent chunk of fluff with the Tyranids, but the playerbase (and development spotlight) was very much spread between those four.

That's the reason why they all have separate books and almost complete plastic lines even now.

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>>51067386
>abloobloo i need to play a dedicated assault faction to play melee

Get a load o dis neophyte

>>51067388
Good point. They kind of juggled BTs and CFs in early 3rd, since BTs were the Imperial faction in the starter box, while CFs were the 'Eavy Metal display army (and subjects in the cover art) for the Codex.

UMs became the poster-boys again later in 3rd though, although the BT love lasted long enough for them to get unique rules and the Land Raider Crusader.

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>>51067441
That's amazing.

>>51067441
Based on what the guy was saying, he didn't want any shooting. And if you're a marine, you're gonna be shooting at some point.

>>51067437
Fair enough, but we're mostly talking about vanilla Marines. Or I am, anyway.

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>>51067180
>guardsmen
>hating magnus
>siding with russ
loyalist solar auxilia/imperial guard here
fuck the traitors but fuck russ even more
in his infinite capability to act like a lapdog he fucked over an extremely important imperial planet
the fucker started bombarding a planet full of innocent imperial citizens and a loyal legion/ primarch because "lmao Horus told me to "
either he was to thick to realize orbital bombardment isn't a great way to start an arrest of a single person or he didn't care .
Any loyal imperial citizen would have rushed to their home planet's defense when it's getting bombarded by a random ass fleet without warning or explanation in the middle of civil war

Magnus had his flaws but it is Russ that turned him and his legion traitor by being a giant fucking hypocritical nonce

>>51067386
Even Demons use shooting to a degree. Soulgrinders and Daemon Princes use it for anti-air, and Blood Cannons of Khorne can function as assault grenades by bombing a charge target before your demons rush in.

While you can technically run a lot of factions without using any ranged weapons, it's not really effective because even the most melee-heavy armies will typically still want to shoot stuff every once and a while.

Trying to keep things fluffy for 850 points of Black Templars but still have a bit of a competitive touch to it, what should my ratio of horde vs elite and from there boys vs toys be?

Building these guys in a fluff friendly way that doesn't just abuse the fuck out of Skyhammer formations and in a point range where Land Raider Spearheads aren't an option is a giant pain in the dick.

>>51067418
Shooting or assault doesn't really matter to me, but I really don't want the extent of my gameplay to be static gunlines or a headfirst charge across the map to get into melee.

So I guess I want an army that is very mobile, but a little complicated to move right.

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>>51067456
>"Enter shooting phase. Rolling To Hit."
>"With what? You don't have any guns!"
>"My Thunder Hammer."

>>51067457
Poster child is a vague term, and through 2e and 3e no one chapter can really lay claim to it. 4e too, really, since that was the edition where they encouraged "make your own chapter" the most.

>>51067478
>CRUCIFY HIM!

Jesus got beaten by melee though.

>>51067347
It is a very sound decision as about 1/2 of what you will do is modeling (building and painting) plus you need to be able to look at your guys and not hate them. Dice seem to role better for painted armies in my experience.

>>51066897
I said Terminators are bad in the same thing, and that Chaos terminators are somewhat better. Calm the fuck down dude.

I have a new theory about the identity of Cypher. I think he's Corswain. Astelan claimed that the 30k Cypher (probably Zahariel) was killed by Corswain during the destruction of Caliban. Corswain also was entrusted with the pieces of the Lion's blade after Guilliman broke it which 40k Cypher is rumored to possess. I think Corswain took on the mantle of Cypher after the destruction of Caliban and he is seeking to restore the honor of the current DA chapter.

On a side note, can someone update the BL mega link with the most recent HH books?

>>51066273
>DE good
>Necrons bad

>>51067441
Damm, that is cool.

>>51067441
Nightlords look so fucking stupid.

>>51067476
Well, fortunately for you, most of the armies you listed do mobility very well. Tyranids might be the only exception, but generally that's how many armies play.

Sitting in a gunline tends to be a bit boring and frustrating for both sides, and a dedicated assault list that just rushes forward is often just tricky to build. This is again why I suggest to pick based on fluff and models, as 'not a gunline' and 'not a melee bumrush' are things that most armies are quite capable of doing.

>>51067488
Grenades do exist. Granted, not on terminators, but if you're running an entirely assault terminator list, you have bigger problems.

>>51064919
ANYTHING at all bout IG?

>>51067504
What are you talking about? Jesus tanked the shit out of their melee attacks, literally carrying his entire force on his back. Only reason he lost was because the Romans were horde spamming and he couldn't keep up with their objective control, losing because of victory points.

That lucky hit on that lance at the end was absolutely irrelevant to the main combat and in the longrun Jesus still won the remaining games of their match, only losing the first round to them.

>>51067564
Grey Knight Terminators have Grenades for some wacky unknown reason.

>>51067539

[angry bat noises]

>>51067577

But did Jesus ever once fire a ranged weapon or cast a witchfire?

>>51067488
None can protect you from space Thor

>>51067584
So do Nurgle Terminator Chaos Lords, because the Tech Heresy know-how to disregard the codex and carry grenades in heavier armor only extends to the strongest followers of that one god, apparently.

>>51067608
He's just that much stinkier.

>>51067596
Didn't you hear? He turned the way of the Water Warrior into wine, and he turned enemies into Spawn.

>>51067596
His entire tactic was built around psychic powers by healing guys up constantly, using shit to get over otherwise impassable terrain and taking over previously opposing units.

>>51067539
likes : bats , dark colours, terror, pale skin
hates:my granddad , people who can't keep secrets (fuck you fulgrim quit showing everyone my deviantart) , the light

The pylons are capable of teleporting the entire planet. And it won't teleport into a nice place...

so yeah, Cadia will fall, but so will most of the attackers as well...

>>51067577
na dude he made his ressurection roll and got moved into reserves but then he failed his reserve roll 3 turns in a row
by the time he made it back on the board the ultramarine auxiliaries had capped all objectives so he just said gg and left

>>51067647
So he used geomancy? Err whatever the new space marine power is?

>tfw not getting a Crusader formation
Will I ever be able to use the unit my army is meant to use in place of every other infantry in a competitive way?

>>51067671
Boooo I hope Cadia falls brutally with Chaos just walking over everyone.

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>>51067701
Dont be such a negative nancy and wait for the book to come out before judging anything.

NO FEAR BROTHER! NO FEAR!.

>>51067721
My deepest apologies, Lord High Marshal, for my will fell to weakness for a moment. You speak the truth, I shall not waver and carry on with valiant effort and a zeal to make Dorn proud!

>>51067682

Chaplain Moses casts Shifting Worldscape on Red Sea terrain!

Retard here.
When building an army, are you allowed to use whatever combination you want as long as you have a warboss, or do you have to specifically build using the predetermined formations found in your codex? Or are the formations simply to give you some bonuses when you have a particular combination?

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>>51067121
> Dat leviathan dreadnought
> Covering up his Grenade Launchers with extra armour plates
> Still looks fucking amazing
FOR THOUGH I WALK THROUGH THE VALLEY OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH, I SHALL FEAR NO EVIL. BECAUSE I AM A 25 TON MOTHERFUCKER THAT CAN RIP A GODDAMN PLANET IN HALF, EVIL IS MY PERSONAL FUCKBITCH, WHOM I PLOW EVERY TEN FUCKING MINUTES JUST TO LET IT KNOW HOW DEADLY OF A MOTHERFUCKER I AM.

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>>51064919
ANYTHING at all bout IG?

Also here are my dudes, Harakoni Warhawks unless I think of a better name. Wish I could get back to them and finish them and fix a few mistakes. Also does anyone have any tips for highlighting black? The fatigues are driving me crazy

>>51067788
You can play unbound with no limitations, or bound, which means you have to use detachments. Detachments can be very flexible with a combined arms detachment. Check the brb.

>>51067788

read the rulebook, it answers your questions

>>51067793
You can highlight black by a couple methods
> Start with Administratum Standard Grey and use 2 or 3 coats of Nuln Oil. Natty highlights, good middle ground between time spent and appearance.
> Start with LEADBELCHER, then use 6 or 7 highlights of Nuln Oil. Even better natty highlights, but VERY time consuming.
> Start with Abaddon Black, layer up Eshin Grey, highlight with mechanicus standard grey. Worst looking but easiest method.

>>51067788
For bound, either just formations or play with one hq and two troops

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>>51067838
Cheers mate

>>51067790
so what makes leviathans so destructive?

>>51067978
they are little dishwashers of pure hate and rage

>>51067978
It's a combination of a couple things
> IN YOUR FUCKING FACE
A Leviathan in a Dreadnought drop pod gets exactly where he needs to be on turn 1. Right smack dab in front of the biggest motherfucker on the entire board that isn't him. Be it a Wraithknight, a Stormsurge, or even a goddamn titan.
> SHEER WEAPONS
It can fire ALL of these. AT BS5
- Frag Grenades
- 2 Heavy Flamers
- Meltagun
- 3 Hunter Killer missiles
- 6 S7ap3 shots
So it will FUCK UP anyone that dares to get in front of it. And of course if it doesn't outright kill the dumb motherfucker that made the mistake of EXISTING, then it has the following
> THE DEADLIEST MELEE WEAPON IN THE ENTIRE GAME
That's right, on the charge the Leviathan has the potential for dealing up to 25 wounds. TWENTY FIVE WOUNDS, at S10 Ap2
> ARMOUR, SHIELDS, DROP POD
It has FOUR HULL POINTS. A 4++ SAVE, THAT WORKS IN BOTH SHOOTING IN MELEE. IT HAS 13/13/12 ARMOUR AND IMMUNE TO MELTA. IT'S DROP POD IS 3 EXTRA HULL POINTS, AND COMES STOCK WITH A 5+ SAVE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY IN THE POD.

YOUR OPPONENT WILL FREAK THE FUCK OUT AND SHOOT IT WITH HIS ENTIRE GODDAMN ARMY. THE LEVIATHAN WILL SHRUG OFF THE ENTIRETY OF YOUR OPPONENT'S ARMY, AND THEN DISEMBARK THE NEXT TURN IN ORDER TO DESTROY THE ENTIRE GODDAMN UNIVERSE.

>>51067978

Why don't you read their rules you dumbass. It's pretty fucking self explanatory.

>>51068024
that sounds rather horrifying, where are the rules?

>>51068048
Right here, downloaded straight from forgeworld's main website. Note the ridiculously high points cost. Because UNLIKE geedubs rules, you actually have to pay a premium for THE ABILITY TO RIP AND TEAR THE UNIVERSE IN HALF.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Datasheets/LeviathanSiegeDreadnoughtRules.pdf

>>51068060
>>51068048

Don't forget the $100 price tag!

>>51068076
Or 30$ if you get him from based chinaman. :-)

>>51068087
>my friend

>>51068087

>tfw too much of a retard for china

>>51068093
Ayo, how's the marine corps treating you man? Have you done anything more with your leviathan yet?

>>51068024
>Melee dread
>I4
LaughingEldar.wraithbone

>>51068106
Wrong anon I'm afraid
Limpybro here

>>51068114
> I5 on the Charge
Cry more for me xenos bitch, I go 'simo with you when my WORLD DESTROYING COFFIN charges your pretty wraithknight out of his own drop pod.

>>51068094
Are you the same guy who posts this every time Chinaman comes up?

It's really not that hard to order from a Chinaman

>>51067459
Jesus, a thousand times this...
a million times, THIS. I don't blame Magnus for what happened, though he is ultimately responsible regardless of reasons. His flaws are that of pride, but reasonable pride, the errors he makes fall to the side of better judgement. Russ? little better than Angron at not being a complete and total loss of a rational being, or useful member of the imperium...

>>51068132
Z is the easiest to find and cheapest but he's not accepting new customers. You need to know somebody who is already 'in', and just order through them.

CCON is the most expensive of all recasters, but he's a bit harder to find

> Miranda
Lel, good luck browsing Aliexpress for a few months just to find some outdated contacts from her. She changes her contacts on a monthly basis just to keep geedubs off her chinese ass.

>>51066897
calm down there edgelord, he was being constructive. not... whatever the fuck you were being.
> you should have your internet privileges >rescinded for being stupid enough to suggest >otherwise.
ummm.... seriously, be helpful

Is there a mirror for miniwargaming's premium content? I'm not going to pay money for youtube videos.

>>51068131
But anon, you don't charge Swooping Hawks, they charge you

>>51068162
> Implying Swooping Hawks can even threaten a Leviathan, and aren't just Bait for increasing his Kill-count for the game.

>>51068140
>Russ? little better than Angron at not being a complete and total loss of a rational being, or useful member of the imperium...
At least Angron had an actual medical reason for his loss of sanity, coupled with how the Emporer royally fucked him over.

I wonder if he's happy now that he's a Daemon Prince.

>>51068150
Except Z is accepting new customers. I ordered from him for the first time on a new email without any reference to my previous one and had no issues, that was only a month ago.

I have no clue where this "not accepting new customers" idea came from.

>>51068178
angron is only happy if he can bitch about how unfortunate he is

so being perpetually dicked by chaos without any hope of death or redemption is probably his ideal situation

>>51068132

Probably.

It's a secret club no one can talk about for obvious reasons.

>>51068170
>he doesn't know about the best Aspect
Anon, if it walks, waddles, or flies, Swooping Hawks can kill it

>>51068192
>all low caps
>ridiculous answer
Stop shitposting.

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I wanna get some space dogs. This list look ok? Thinking of running 4x3 for the thunder wolfs instead of 2x6.

>>51068212
i'm seriousposting, though

>>51068150
>ccon
>most expensive

Just wait until he does a 40% off sale.