Warhammer 40k General.

>>51069163
1st 4 night lords

>>51069163
2nd for night lords

>>51069163
3rd for bats r ghey

new khorne berzerkers when

How do I write a working list sersly

Starting my first bt army and just can't find a good way of writing the force (the list it self so don't reply with pen and paper as I use pencil and paper )

>>51069464
By this I mean pointers for writing lists and especially bt spess mehreen lists

>>51069527
Read the codex, follow the rules for army construction, pick the units in the respective slots that fit BT the best.

>>51069604
The only fluffy themed BT units in the codex are Land Raider Crusaders, Crusader squads, and the characters they have. That does not make for an effective army.

>>51069527
Skyhammer. Aggressive drop pod tactics are BT as fuck.

Sisters got wrecked. Celestine owned by Abbaddon. Taken out like a punk. Cadia is dead. From war for sigmar spoilers.

>>51070476
Post the link.

>>51070478
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1579

>>51070459
>https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1579
>Devastators in a BT army
You disgust me

>>51070476
Typical GW
Hype the sisters players up before killing off their main character and raping them harder than ever before

>>51070495
>https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1579

Oh....oh the planet is not even there anymore. They did not take it over, they blew it in half.

>>51070476
Except Abbadon forgets to finish her off like a retard only to get backstabbed by her later and then runs away crying.

Both her and Creed survive.

>>51070837
You mean laughing. He left because the planet was going to explode. Cadia bye bye.

>>51070846
Actually he left because the Cadians were approaching and the Pylons were about to fuck up his Teleporter.

>>51070476
>>51070512
In the Fluff Abbadon is the most dangeous and powerful melee fighter in the galaxy. He rekt Sigismund, Clone Horus, Greater Daemon Lords and and easily fended off an enraged Kharn. No shame to lose against him.

>>51070512
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>51070928
Oh...you are right.

>>51070962
This. Even with her Greater Daemon of the Emperor powers, she'd probably still lose to Abbadon. Thanks to the Pylon cutting her powers down, she'd have no hope.

So, anons, what do you think of this 2000-point Dark Mechanicus-themed Renegades and Heretics army?

On Pastebin, since it's just barely too long to be posted here:
http://pastebin.com/KF6TFEKF

Figure that the Renegade Command Squad and Disciple Squad would be made using the Skitarii sprues, with some added Forge World Renegades bits added in, Heavy Bolter Gun Servitors for the Heavy Weapons team, and the airdrop guys would be regular Cadians mixed in with leftover Forge World and Skitarii bits.

Thoughts?

>>51071122
>too long to be posted here:
no wonder, it's a mess.

>>51070962
b-b-but but the meme says he useless!?!?
no one reads those boring books when 1d4chan is way quickr right?

Could someone clarify multiple barrages for me? I understand that if it's an arrow the second or third template flips that way touching the edge of the first. If it's a hit does it have to touch the edge again or can I overlap it on the first anywhere as long as it's touching? I just don't get how to get multiple hits in a a vehicle otherwise.

>>51071034
what's the pylon thing?

>>51071265
If it's a hit, it can go anywhere as long as it touches the initial template in someway. It is allowed to overlap. Hell, you can technically just put it in the same spot if you want.

>>51071265
How is it hard to understand?

Hit; you place it (touching any part of a already placed marker) scatter; the arrow decides the direction.

>>51071307
Scatter has to be touching edges though?

>>51071322
Yeah, when you roll a scatter result, flip the template once in the direction of the arrow from the initial template.

>>51071382
Thanks. Just got a MANTICORE and i want to make sure I understand how not to waste it.

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So what do people want to know/ want me to take pics of?

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>>51070495

Oh christ this stinks far away of Endtimes.

Hold me tg!

>>51071438
Nothing, it's already in the MEGA in digital format.

>>51071438
Celestine stats if they are there, paint splatter if not.

>>51071458
Really? Alas
Anything good?

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>>51071029
>shit we've created a stalemate
>okay the pylons blow up the planet
I mean I guess it's one way of handling things.

>>51071470
He's talking about the White Dwarf, not FoC.

>Teleports behind Abaddon
>Stabs hm in the back
>Pssh...Nothing personal...traitor

>>51071261
No matter how hard they bite, an attack dogs has to be led, not be the one leading.

>>51071470
Not really
fall of cadia fluff and very crunch-weak batrep
skaven v lizardmen batrap
new faction based paint sets
How to pain promethium pipeline, realmgate, khorne champion and celestine
2016 in review and some golden daemon/slayer sword winners through the ages.
upcoming tzeenthc for AoS
tau vs admech battle scene
blancheshitzoo

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>>51071508
Grimdark Souls

>>51071543
>blancheshitzoo
This episode: 3 warbands of freaks painted in 50 shades of brown.

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>>51071465
No stats i'm afraid

>>51071458
Except it isn't, you liar.

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>>51071576

see >>51071485

>>51071122
It's really weak but if you're going for a theme, that won't be a problem I guess. Then again, only you know your desired theme so what feedback are you looking for?

Newfag question; when plasma gets hot, is the wound allocated with the plasma's AP value or can you still take armour saves against it? Rulebook isn't clear.

>>51071568

I hope those support scrolls are really strong. They'll need to be if they're going to support The Order of Our Martyred Muffin Top, and The Order of the Eternal Fupa.

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>>51071599
>>51071610
And that's it for Paint Splatter

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>>51071610

>>51071599
>>51071601
It doesn't show on my browser, only 2016 ones.

>>51071609
>is the wound allocated with the plasma's AP value
No, the would has no AP value. You get an armor save.

>>51071609
Just a regular wound, all saves allowed.

>>51071651
Thanks.

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>In the Artwork Celestine's hips are 2x her shoulder length
>in addition to her muscled thighs
I'd follow her anywhere desu

>>51071635
then either you or your browser is defective.

>>51071665
Gonna need pic as proof

So, who was in red armor at this art?
file:///C:/Users/1/Desktop/14822427701650.jpg
inb4: its eldar

So how much of each of these bundles price comes from the signed piece of artwork do you think?

>>51071691
Holy shit, how do you fuck up posting an image so bad?

I got a Trukk, 5 Stormboyz, 20+ Boyz, the Ork half of Stormclaw and a playgroup which allows equipment proxy, but I still can't win at Kill Team.

Any suggestions for a roster?

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>>51071691

>>51071700
i dragged this to post

>>51069163
What kind of a retard are you that posts a new thread before the previous one is at its image limit?

>>51071700
/tg/ seems to drop in IQ every 6 months, the last two times were large drops.

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>>51071687
>not to mention the Inq has like Dcup+ boobplate

>>51071709
Both threads got posted at the same time

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>>51071726

>>51071709
They were posted within a literal second of one another.

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What the fuck were they thinking.

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>>51071669
?

>>51071707
Inquisitor is qt *__*

>>51071767
Fish-tanks, anon. Anyone who likes AdMech has terrible taste.

>>51071726
>dem hips on the living saint

literally build for breeding

>>51071726
The size of the boob plate isn't the problem, it's the position.

>>51071795
I clicked this one

>Newer publications in Epub: Use Readium/Kobo
https://mega.nz/#F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!2tgBUTYI

>>51071726
The GW guys said Greyfax's armor was explicitly designed to echo SoB armor, suggesting she may have been one in the past.

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>>51071707

>>51071806
second link anon

>>51071726
honestly I think the inquisitor is a cutie 3.14

>The Dark Eldar help the Imperials flee from Abbadon
Unless it's Drazhar i call BS

So cadia falls, but every special character on it makes it through the webway, led by a dark eldar?

The eye of terror expands, due to the pylons which were supposed to seal it off.

Celestine survives?

>>51071767
>Not liking dorky 60's sci-fi robots

DANGER! DANGER, WILL ROBINSON! I AM DETECTING TERMINAL LEVELS OF BAD TASTE IN THIS AREA!

>>51071831
>implying he isn't leading then through a nebulous tap into a cage like the animorphs did to David. Spoiler warning.

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>>51071767

>>51069667
What is the Black Templar Conversion kit?

>>51071822
>>51071828
g-guys...

>>51071831
The Dark Eldar have a vested interest in keeping the Imperium around and intact. The Imperium provides Commoragh with an endless supply of slaves and is too bloated and incompetent to genuinely track down and destroy the Dark City. If Chaos ever won, the webway would probably be breached in short order and the Dark Eldar overwhelmed by daemons shortly afterwards.

>>51071767
It doesn't even match the aesthetic of the Imperium...it looks like some bastard offspring of Tau and Imperial tech.

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>>51071866
forgot pic

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>>51071783
>Anyone who likes AdMech has terrible taste.

>>51071697
>Caliban marked as a world.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
MOVE ON.
THE DARK ANGELS ARE VERY LOYAL.

>>51071726
>Two THICC qts and a dude covered in robo-tentacles

Rule 34 when?

>>51071874
I'm done, fuck you and your retarded kin, I'm leaving the thread before i pop a blood vessel.

>>51071870
>It doesn't even match the aesthetic of the Imperium...

Because it was built long before the Imperium. Kastellan Robots are ancient Dark Age of Technology-era stuff that the Admech slapped red paint on and started worshipping.

>>51071890
What? What now?

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Ok , to sum up the outcome of the fall of cadia

>Cadia falls with the pylons holding back the warp tide on that part.
>Cadia gate was one of the only stable parts allowing safe passage to and outside eye of terror (which generally works in chaos favor)
>Since cadia gate is no more that path is closed and that sector will be engulfed by chaos closing the breach in the eye making it a full circle.
>It will not advance beyond that because eye of terror was not growing in a noticable pace in the outer edges of that circle anyway
>Failaddon thinks killing some imperials and naming it muh crimson tide will do anything to advance the eye outside its normal circular shape.
>Failaddon is cutoff from the eye of terror because of losing one of the only safe passages
>No chaos reinforcements will coem to Failaddon in meaningfull numbers because of that.

Failaddon failed in epic scale again .

>>51071888
Slaneesh, stop phoneposting from Khorne's military Nokia.

>>51070508
oh look qnother faction space marine player who takes things to an extreme not even found in the fluff.

>>51071913
This is the most far-fetched thing I've ever read.

>>51071913
If this was even remotely true they should just kill off Abbadon
He's a joke

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>>51071874
>>51071910

MONKEY SEE RED TAB?
MONKEY CLICK RED TAB, NO SUBFOLDERS JUST. THE. FUCKING. TAB.

>>51071913
Wrong.

Nobody failed but you. Read the Crimson Path lore.

>>51071913
that's more contrived than the pylons blowing up the planet

abaddon did fail
but he also succeeded

>>51071938
The original BT codex from Codex: Armageddon didn't allow Devastators. Some people like sticking to that. Fluff wise they are supposed to be rare.

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>>51071899
Yeah, I get the fluff, but it just looks jarring. They could have tried to tie it more into the AdMech's atompunk theme rather the going all-out with the goofy 60's robot look.

Look at Forgeworld's shit by comparison, that's repurposed DAoT kit too and isn't an embarrassment to field.

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Ill be playing against Death Guard with a guaranteed of a lost and the damned formation being used. Hows my list look? I expect the Plague Colony as well.

>>51071942
You clearly havent read matt ward lore than.

>>51071961
Instead of always referring to the crimson cuck thing why dont you post actual sources that will support your claims that chaos will engulf terra etc.?

>>51071964
Abbadon is a faggot
But he is also straight

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>>51071964
He successfully failed, yet again.

>>51071953
Which one is it then? The one in read is the only one with anything published January 2017.

>>51072003
the one in red*

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>>51071990
CSM codex page 20. And don'r accuss people of not reading lore when you didn't

>>51071984
A full squad of guardsmen cause 1/4th of a wound per turn on the marines

Expect the LatD to be respawning plague zombies with fnp.

>>51072001
Cadia is in space ruins and his plan proceed forth though.

>>51072003
Maybe that where the january 2017 white dwarf is found then.

>>51072032
Because of circumstances outside of his control, yes.

>>51072022
I'm thinking about moving some points around for a regular Leman Russ Battle Tank to deal with the marines but I just dont know the ratio of marines vs zombies.

I'm hoping one of the Assassins can pick off typhus.

>>51072039
Why did you put it in red if I was supposed to click it then?

>>51072056
Nope, he made it happen. Abaddon rigged Cadia to explode before he landed.

Celestine stabs Abaddon right in the ass and he runs away.

The Despoiler on top form as usual.

>>51072019
Abbadons masturbation dreams.

>>51071842
>>51072057
If you know how many points you're playing with you can pretty accurately guess the ratio of Marines to zombies. These formations don't give you a lot of flexibility.

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>>51071913
To sum up.

>>51072074
See you in book 2. Alright anyone wants start making bets?

ll anons who say the eye will not expand step forth.

ll those who say it will, identify yourselves. Gonna mak a screencap for when he book 2 comes.

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>>51071984
If you run blobs, give the commander Kurovs Aquila. Replace Punisher with normie LMR or Demolisher if you plan to get close up. BS3 HWTs seem like a waste of points but maybe they work inside that bastion.

Remember that while assassins are cool and fluffy you get a LMR for the price of a single operative. Culexus is hilarious vs. nids though.

S10 weapons are great because they negate fnp even if they dont negate normal saves.

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>>51072083
Ten thousand years of necron boner have finally come to an end.

>>51072123
Ironically because of a Necron.

>>51072069
No cadia only exploded because of the activation of the pylons.
And guess why pylons were activated?
Thats right because abbadon brought a giant army and imperium felt it was their last chance.
Abbadon boasting '' i didnt even need to land here lol, i could have just watched you die from the sky'' is him being retarded .

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>>51071913
If that's true that's hilarious.
Meanwhile Magnus just rips the Planet of Sorcerers into existence

Of all the ways he could've killed Creed, why choke him? With a fucking lightning claw?

It's like he wanted to get nuthin' personnel'd by Celestine. They hype him up for months as this super-pragmatic and efficient warlord only to have him fuck up in such a retarded manner.

>>51071772
>White Dwarf
>White Dwarf Weekly
Pick one

Belisarius Cawl falls activating de Cadia pilons for clóset the eye of terror, but dais and destroy the Planet... without Cadia & pilons, the eye of the terror expands devouring several planets at the end of the book.... the chaos sees as the crimson path is established approaching towards to terra. Abaddon kill celestine and trazyn escape and goes to mars. Some imperial forces they escape desperately by the eldar webway and the damaged Phalanx of the Imperial Fist.

>>51072168
Star Wars

>>51072168
In his eyes, everyone on cadia was already dead, but still moving. He had budgeted some relaxation time.

>The 13th Black Crusade is different. This time Abaddon’s full military might is aimed at Cadia and he intends to destroy it.

3 pages later

>Abaddon’s goal isn’t to destroy Cadia

white dwarf

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>>51072185
>relaxation time

>>51072168
because the bad guy chokes the life out of the good guy so he can see/feel the good guys life fade away is one of the biggest tropes ever. Also the bad guy getting stopped in said process is another trope that's huge.

>>51072175
Oh shit the Phalanx shows up again?
Neat

>>51072175
>>51072168
>>51071913
Wait, Fall of Cadia is out? I thought it's in ebruary. Link? MEGA?

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>>51070962

He's been slam jammed by god damn farseers. Eldrad just got a crystal hip replacement and he still showed that whipper snapper what for in the old fisticuffs. Abigail is stronk enough to beat mid tier dudes like Kharn and Celestine, but he's not jamming with the best.

>>51072185
Except it's completely out of his character unless GW suddenly decided to make his meme version canon. He did not even bother to cut off Celestine's hands when she was pretty much the only one who had a weapon that could pierce his armor.

>>51072228
>Kharn
>mid-tier
He broke two legions, anon.

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>>51072123
Apparently even slaanesh loses its arousal after 10 thousand years of necron boner in its ass.

>>51072135
>Abbadon boasting '' i didnt even need to land here lol, i could have just watched you die from the sky'' is him being retarded .

Prove it. He said he set in motion the planets destruction to Creed.

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>>51072228
Which characters can have a good change against failaddon in the current tabletop ?

>>51072278
Jain Zar

Every bundle has the trio.

Ok leak the rules already.

>>51072278
Lilith

>>51072278
Anyone with EW and AP 2 weapon.

>>51072250

He also got popped by a guy with a pony tail. Abby slapped him around like a red headed step child.

>>51072309
This really.

>>51072278
basically any tooled out combat character with EW

Shit, even without EW if you have a decent invulnerable save you can usually be safe until he stabs himself to death with his own sword.

>>51072278
Magnus.

>>51072319
10k years ago?

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>>51072262

>>51072319
>muh BL!
Not canon. Not saying Kharn is stronger, but that fight was so poorly written considering the feats both fighters have accomplished.

>>51072355
I say it's canon.

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>>51071783
>Fish-tanks, anon. Anyone who likes AdMech has terrible taste.
>replying to yourself.
>MUHFISHTANKS.
>MUHADMECHISSHIT
To the adsecularii with you

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>>51072354
Too high-res for me.

>>51072354
Okay? Now read the section after creed is saved.

>>51072373
>its canon because I say so
Nah, it isn't mentioned in any official material.

>>51072383
Sauce was from the thread before, cant do anything about that sicne i dont have the books.

>>51071876
>>51072378
>triggered fish-tank lovers
Your models still suck.

So when is anyone going to post the actual rules for the triumvirate and the super formations?

>>51072402
But it's official material. It's canon because it's a GW publication.

Now get me a source that says it's not canon. You have one try.

>>51072319
If we go by Fluff terms, the strongest 1v1 fighter is Kharn by a mile
>Broke the WE and EC
>Killed of all captains of the legion
>Can wander around by himself in real space and the warp safely

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>>51072103
Thanks for the advice. Never used the Aquila before as I always thought it was too pricey at 60pts.

>>51072416
When anyone gets them. The usual leakanon didnt get his book in time due snowshit or something.

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>>51072411
What are you talking about, skitarii are cute as fuck. Just look at those eyes.

>>51072418
Kharn was beaten by Sigismund. Abaddon beat Sigismund.

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>>51072398

>Abbadon claims he could have destroyed cadia without even setting foot on it
>Pylons activate because abbadon set foot on cadia and they cant stop the tide
>Planet blows up due to pylons overloading

Therefore if abbadon did not set foot on cadia they would not have activated the pylons ergo cadia would not have blown

>>51072417
>But it's official material. It's canon because it's a GW publication.
It's a BL publication, about as canon as ADB retardation. Try again.

>>51072418
I wouldn't go that far since Abbaddon has way better gear, but they're much more even than that anon would make it seem like.

>>51072437
He was beaten before he become The Betrayer. 40k Kharn>30k Kharn

>>51071978
Who do the missles fire without hitting the thing in the back of the head

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>>51072411
>triggered
Nah I just smell the same faggot, posting the same bait and trying to force the same maymay.
>Your models still suck.
which ones
which ones are the mythical "fish tanks" you keep buggering on about.
So go ahead, what models in the combind admech line aside from the getterrobot is trash

>>51072448
So you are seeing that Abaddon destroyed Cadia by being there?

IMPORTANT QUESTION:

Do I build my skitarii vanguard with AdMech hoods or pseudo-sallet helms?

>>51072437
In a duel in the pits of the Conqueror, which in Betrayer Kharn was stated to not take seriously and thus suck at.

By that logic the strongest WE would've been Delvarus and not Kharn.

>>51072455
>It's a BL publication, about as canon as ADB retardation. Try again.

That's no proof. That's just an opinon.

Fact-wise BL is a firm of GW. You failed.

>>51072418

If we go by fluff he loses to Abaddon and Siggy. He's not even close to the top tier.

>>51072461
DAoT techno-magic.

>>51072473
Why

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>>51072435
Post the full one. You cropped out the best part in the background, Infiltrator BTFO'ing a Scorpion.

>BAM! HOW DO YOU LIKE DEM EXPLODING SIXES!

>>51072309
So a Canoness with Bolt pistol, Power Axe, Rosarius and The Mantle of Ophelia. 120 points of over costed shit can deal with armless cunt.

Shame.

>>51072473
Vanguard wear helmets, Rangers wear hoods.

>>51072473
I though Vanguard had sallets and Rangers had hoods?

>>51072402

>It's not canon because I say so

It IS the official material. BL is the publishing branch of GW.

>>51072473
>skitarii vanguard
traditionally sallet
though generally it's whatever you want.
I find he infiltrator heads are fucking awesome on rangers.

>>51072474
Kharn did take his duels with other legion dudes seriously though.

Kharn also lost to the Flesh Tearer guy in a duel

>>51072486
I just realized, how the fuck did that Skitarii Alpha take the head of that Eldar with a fucking mace?

>>51072473
Do what you want. I hate those sallets so I picked the hoods. In my mind, admech is all about them hoods and robes so everyone gets hoods and robes.

>>51072463
All their models look the same, the fish-tanks are just the worst offenders. Same red + random metal monochrome shit with no discernible shape in most of their models.

>>51072435
Skitarii are not the same as ad mech and have a completely different, superior, art design.

Any pics of Fall of Cadia?
Except this from GW site?

>>51071473
Cadia must be captured, not destroyed otherwise Abaddon's crusade will loase their only stable rute they need to launch a black crusade, it's destruction despise being a mayor loss to the imperium it would actually benefit them by halting Abaddon's black crusade.

Been out of the 40k loop for a while, since 6th came out. Are Orks still getting completely shot off the table first turn? Are they actually able to kill anything or has power creep gotten so bad that everything has a 2+ invulnerable and a special power?

>>51072481
>its an opinion because I say so!
Nah, BL content gets contradicted by Codex/Campaign fluff all the time. YOU are the one who failed.

>>51072508

It's just the helmet.

>>51072521
Wrong. Read this >>51072019

>>51072510
>40k armies in a nutshell
All Ultramarines models look the same. Same blue + random metal decorative shit with no discernible shape in most of their models.

You can say that about pretty much every single army in the game.

Hope you have fun with your (You).

>>51072523
Bikes
Everywhere
They're better but still suck

>>51072533
The dead guy in front of him literally has no head though.

>>51072504
>Kharn did take his duels with other legion dudes seriously though.
The only duel he ever took seriously was the one with Erebus, and that was because he was trying to avenge Argel Tal.

And he literally killed the Flesh Tearer with a single blow, with a ritual knife.

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>>51072510
The whole point of this exercise to try and get to the fucking point of your forced meme you call an opinion.
>All their models look the same
from techpriests to fugulite to skitarii to cybernetica to kataphrons.
I don't see it you might want to expand
>Same red
you know that PAINT is not on the model right?

finally when you say
>no discernible shape in most of their models.
and you include
> the fish-tanks are just the worst offenders
(btw the word you are looking for is fish-bowl)
you mean the most gribbled army in the game is formless but also the least gribbled unit in their faction is the worst offender.
the fuck do u mean by this

>>51072531
I am not seeing any proof. BL material also gets included in GW's codexes all the time case in point he WoM which has BL Ahriman and Magnus rectonning the old ones.

So get proof that Kharn wasn't beaten up. You have one last chance then we can put this to rest.

>>51072555

Maybe his neck's just bending backwards?

>>51072474
>>51072504
>>51072557
Rly you compare Great Crusade and Heresy Kharn to Kharn the Betrayer, most important champion of Khorne?

>>51072544
>>51072569
Ultramarines are just a chapter, and even them have more variation than shit-mech. Centurions, bikes, fliers, dreadnoughts and all sorts of clearly different models.

And what do Ad-Mech got? Fish-tanks and some ugly models that just look like a bunch of cogs with a red robe over it.

>>51072557
What? The Flesh Tearer is a nickname of a Blood ngel who founded the Flesh Tearer chapter after the HH

>>51072593
Holy shit
You are the worst troll I have seen this fucking week
Step your game up, slav

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>>51072539

And how will chaos reinforcements arrive or abbadons forces retreat now that the biggest stable path from eye of terror to real space is closed?
You probably did nto think about that dont you? Real armies need supply lines. They dont work soley on masturbation.

>>51072608
teleporting in and spawning out of thin air from the Eye that will spit Chaos all over the place as it expands,.

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>>51072508
Technologically enhanced close combat prowess, courtesy of WS 6 from hyper-action protocols.

>>51072602
>Step your game up, slav
why the fuck do you think he is a slav
also this faggot's been here forever.
>>51072593
>And what do Ad-Mech got?
gothic robots, atomic punk robots, cybernetics, steampunk tanks/robots, spider robots, knights, dragoons, skitarii, techpreists, thralls, tech guard.
lots of diversity there.
>Fish-tanks
I corrected you for a reason, so you'd stop making an ass out of yourself.

>>51072577
They also ignore it all the time. Like with Drach'nyen being able to such out your soul with a single blow, yet Celestine getting hit by it as a normal human and not dying instantly.
That fight didn't even happen, Traitor's Hate proves it. Not mentioned there, Kharn being there on his own will rather than by Abby's orders. Note too, his complete absence in FoC.

So get proof that Kharn was beat up. You have one last chance then we can put this to rest.

>>51071707
>>51071726

so deliciously thicc

>>51072637
>gothic robots, atomic punk robots, cybernetics, steampunk tanks/robots, spider robots, knights, dragoons, skitarii, techpreists, thralls, tech guard.
lots of diversity there.
All which look exactly the same. The exception being the fish-tanks which just look so out of place and retarded.

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>>51071978
Trusting kastellax over castellans
Your heretek way are showing anon

>>51072637
All the shitposters on hobby boards are bored Slavs
It was a dark day for the Internet when Eastern Europe finally had a widely available personal computers

>>51072608
Imperial Webway gonna get breached

Cadian pylons will close the Eye prior to overloading

Terra becomes new mini-Eye

Siege of Terra in reverse with Imperium trying to keep Chaos bottled up

Emprah starts to Star Child after getting nommed by daemons on the Throne

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>>51071726
>dem childbearing hips on Celestine

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Want to get in tabletop and heard about kill team mode. How good this roster for newbie?

So If I were to sum up Fall of Cadia


Pylons?
Pylons!
Py... lons?
Pylons.
Pylons!!!!!!
Pylons.
Pylons!?
<Cadia blows up>

I understand the point of a macguffin in a story but... when ... ... ... ... nothing comes of it, what was the point?

>>51072642
They don't.

>They also ignore it all the time. Like with Drach'nyen being able to such out your soul with a single blow, yet Celestine getting hit by it as a normal human and not dying instantly.

The Pylons could have done something to weaken the daemon. In MoM the Sisters of Silence were weakening the daemon ability to act and think.

>That fight didn't even happen, Traitor's Hate proves it.

It doesn't. It mentions that Kharn was there by the machinations of Abaddon. Also that Kharn mind no longer recalls why is heading there.

So there is no proof that Kharn wasn't beat up. GG.

>Note too, his complete absence in FoC.

He will be deployed somewhere else. Abaddon still has use for him.

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>>51072625

Think of the eye as a giant baloon. That baloon has a pencil that is stabbing at it . For objects to traverse the baloon they need to do it where the plastic outer part is the thinnest. The pencil that was stabbing at the baloon was where the baloon was thinnest. But now that the pencil was gone baloon will return to its original shape and since you were outside of the baloon at the time of that happening you wont be able to cross the same path again because now the baloons plastic part is not thin. Therefore chaos can only advance as far as teh eye expans which is at a negligable pace since 10k years. Abbadon who is stuck at the other side of the baloon can continue masturbating thinking if he kills enough dudes and gains enough good boy points he will expand the eye.

>>51072693
Something has come from it retardation .

>>51072486

Any picture in which Eldar are throwing themselves into Imperial gunlines like Soviet conscripts is always a bit bewildering to me

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>>51072693
>nothing comes of it
Cadia blew the fuck up. This is just the first book of a two year event. What do you want exactly?

>>51072642

>So get proof that Kharn was beat up

He already proved it, you just refuse to acknowledge the fact BL is part of GW and completely official.

"A golden figure, pale as death, stood behind the Despoiler. Her Sword trusth deep into his spine."

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>>51072682

Disgustingly fat-looking.

>>51072718

That's all 40k art. Same problem with Tau, the long range faction, always seemingly being right in everyone's grills.

>>51072718
Well its not like they are throwing themselves at a gunline. Skitarii are big on advancing and it seems they are doing so. So it might be counter-assault from one side. or both side.

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>>51072659
>Implying there's anything heretekal about sanctioned machine spirits
>Implying the Legio Cybernetica would use abominable intelligence
>Clinging to inferior automata out of a lack of understanding

Inefficiency is an affront to the Omnissiah

>>51072693
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEJd838oNp4

>>51072655
>All which look exactly the same.
you mean has a cohesive aesthetic, which is what all armies are designed to have. though arguable with the 30k stuff being added that will not be the case, 30k is different enough compared to the others.
>The exception being the fish-tanks which just look so out of place and retarded.
but they are (to paraphrase you) the worst offenders of the bland samey looking gribbled mess but completely different and out of place.
Look anon perhaps you should do a compare and contrast.
Take an army you like the look off and explain why it is better aesthetically then the admech rather than being shit-tier bait.
fucking TRY in otherwords.

>>51072707
>he Pylons could have done something to weaken the daemon
That's your speculation fuc-boi. Unless it's stated there it didn't happen.

>It doesn't. It mentions that Kharn was there by the machinations of Abaddon. Also that Kharn mind no longer recalls why is heading there.
Except it literally says that Xhorpas promised him the skulls of the Death Company. It wouldn't have taken any promises if he wasn't there on his own accord. He also literally had to kidnap him at the end. Sorry anon.

>>51072730

you take your mute low-test anorexics

I'll take the joocy thicc warrior nun

>>51072730
Nothing a bit of filing and greenstuff can't fix.

Gonna get me dat holy hourglass.

>>51072720
>samefagging to try and manufacture consensus
How jewish of you, anon.

>>51072710
tl;dr

Dude, I m just telling you the fluff. When the next book will your logic be followed or the fluff?

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>>51072730
you know you still my nigga but you have to stop dis.
Thiccfaggots are gone, you ain't gonna wake dem up

>>51072718
>butthurt eldarboo detected

It's clearly the Skitarii that are advancing anyway. They've all got relentless, they don't form static gunlines.

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>>51072766
>anorexics
you need to be bullied nerd

>>51072792

>butthurt eldarboo detected

Couldn't be further from the truth. It just looks weird

>>51072749

<said in the Dawn of War 2 Eldar voice>

Brothers and Sisters of the Craftworld, we will impede their advance with our dead! Drown them in our blood! Clog their respirators with our burning corpses!

>>51072759
I already did. Though I don't like SM they do have a thousand times more variation than cog + robes and a few fish-tanks.

>>51072763
>That's your speculation fuc-boi. Unless it's stated there it didn't happen.

Except th fact that all daemons on the planet were weakened and banished even the ones locked in the metal of daemon egines. Please show the text that says Drach reacted any differently to the pylon field.

>Except it literally says that Xhorpas promised him the skulls of the Death Company.

Which page?

>>51072780

Look at the time stamps you fucking moron.

>>51072811
>>51072766
They both look like shit, you can't even tell the Inquisitor's face.

There are no good-looking females in 40k.

>>51072822
>Though I don't like SM
I said
>>51072759
>Take an army you like the look off
if you don't like the look of it you haven't done what i asked.
Furthermore you didn't even explain shit.
try again

>>51072545
I figured as much, I was hoping we'd at least get some honest to god heavy support back. We had nothing that could crack any kind of armor. Hell even a basic rhino was a stretch, it would take a squad of Nobz at least, IF you could get them into cc.

Oh well, I guess fluff based rules sell models...

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>>51072844
>There are no good-looking females in 40k.

wat

>>51072832
>Except th fact that all daemons on the planet were weakened and banished even the ones locked in the metal of daemon egines. Please show the text that says Drach reacted any differently to the pylon field.
Please show the text that Drach'nyen reacted at all to the pylon field. Deamons sealed inside of weapons were not even mentioned.

>Which page?
1 sec

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>>51072844
>There are no good-looking females in 40k.
I'd say faces are fucked more then female sculpts but then again you aren't wrong.

>>51072844
>What is Lelith Hesperax?

>>51072846
>if you don't like the look of it you haven't done what i asked.
Too bad I don't take orders from you faggot.

>Furthermore you didn't even explain shit.
That's what I've been doing the entire thread.

>try again
Said the tryhard.

>>51072874
>posts fanart

>>51072876
Prove me wrong then faggot.

>>51072875
>Please show the text that Drach'nyen reacted at all to the pylon field. Deamons sealed inside of weapons were not even mentioned.

Possessed and daemon sealed inside engines were. Same principle. They are all daemons. The text says all daemons on the planet were affected. What makes you thin drach didn't? were is proof.

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>>51072888

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>>51072896
>Prove me wrong then faggot.
You don't understand English do you?
I said you were right yo colossal faggot

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>>51072875
>>51072832

As written

Regular people had blood erupt from every orifice
Daemons were banished
Daemon Engines just shut down
Psykers had their souls dragged into oblivion . Posessed Marines were torn in half as the Daemons were banished.

The fact that Drach'nyen was not pulled from the sword and banished is a plot hole the size of the eye of terror and shitty writing.

Why didn't Drach'nyen get banished, GW?
>Because uh uh uh... fuck uh uh because... it was... so .... fuck... er ... ... powerful?
So powerful it wanted to remained entombed in a sword?
>Oh fuck er... ... ... er...

>This thread.

I wish they removed the cap on how old a post you can delete, this sure as fuck ain't worth the bits and bandwidth.

>>51072844
the inquisitor is a cutie 3.14
take it back heretic

>>51072946
>pulled from the sword
It IS the sword.

>>51072844

>There are no good-looking females in 40k.

sculpted.

There are no good-looking sculpted females.

>>51072896
>That's what I've been doing the entire thread.
Anon, you said the same shit as you always do; MUH-FISHTANKS,MUH FISH-TANKS MUH FISH-TANKS.
That is not an explanation, which is why i've refereed to this as a meme. If you were vehemently against these models you could provide critiques of them, instead you say a bunch of contradictory shit.

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>>51072896
>There are no good-looking females in 40k.

The failure of GW's artists and sculptors doesn't mean there aren't women who are described as qt in the fluff.

>>51072962
>>51072946

The point stands.

When every Daemonic element is erased from existence. again...

Daemons just vanished.
Daemon Engines shut down.
Posessed Marines torn, literally, in two as their bound Daemons were banished.

Your Daemon manifest sword not getting erased is shitty writing.

Undefendable.

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>>51072844
>you can't even tell the Inquisitor's face.

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So, wasn't it today preorders for the FoC models were going up?

>>51071767
"Let's make a 1950s beep boop."

>>51072908
>What makes you thin drach didn't?
That it didn't say he was. All Daemons except for the ones in weapons were explicitly mentioned.

>pylons activated
>Daemons begin disappearing or being weakened
>Celestine is weakened

Living saints are daemons of the emperor, confirmed.

>>51072996
yes? they update based on timezones

check the NZ/AUS pages, they have 360 images up. Greyfax is a lot nicer than I thought, now that I can see the full monty

>>51072982
>doesn't cite any example

>>51072976
So you're just ignoring what you don't like only to strawman at me later like the triggered little cuck you are.

It's alright anon, just admit you have shit taste and I'll make it stop.

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>>51073007
>>51071767
Not a very good beep boop.

Actual goldfish bowl heads would be a step up.

>>51071965
Fluff wise they have everything space marines do except psykers.

Second ed armageddon is not a "normal" codex in any way.

>>51073017
>Living saints are daemons of the emperor, confirmed.
no
it just means she is powered by the warp, if deamons disappear and she is not then there has to be some physical force in here

>>51072996

They will appear at 10am your time.

>>51073011
Drach got affected by Sisters of Silence null presence so this means the pylons null fielf affected it.

Now get back to work.

>>51072993
She looks high AF. Not cute.

>>51073027
all of those are fucking awesome.

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Quick rule question.

If a model simply get precision shots, such as the Vindicare assassin, or the Sisters of Silence (against psykers), do they only get to do that on a 6+ to hit, or can they place all their shots as they wish?

>>51072871
We'll there ARE tankbustas and everything has rokkits now

>>51073025
There are billions upon billions of humans and xeno in the 40k universe. Do you even need an example you imbecile?

>>51073031
The text says she is reborn time and time again in the warp.

>>51073039

It should have done but didn't because of poor writing.

>ABADDON'S IRON WILL KEPT DRACH FROM BEING BANISHED

Is what you will get, it's retarded and doesn't make sense but that's what you will get.

>>51072990
Maybe it turned into a kitchen knife. Thats why abbadon had to chock Creed with his claw?

>>51073039
>Drach got affected by Sisters of Silence null presence so this means the pylons null fielf affected it.
Where, in yet another BL? Funny how it was ignored just like the Kharn fight.

>Now get back to work.
You can pretend to be condescending all you like but it really just make you look like a desperate tryhard.

>>51073044
>She looks high AF. Not cute.
that is cute, though

>>51073052
>or can they place all their shots as they wish?
that one

>>51073052
have you read the rule for precision shots?

>>51073052
6+ to hit. Although in Vindicares case, he has special rules which state that all of his non-snapshots are always Precision Shots.

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>>51073057
So a warp being is not banished but warp beings of a stronger power are?
doesn't make a lot of sense.
also wouldn't psykers shit up their guts.

>>51073063
Actually, Abaddon does have a pact with Drach. Drach won't leave Abaddon's side until the pact is done and the Emperor is dead.

>>51073079
I'm on a phone and been trying to get the OP to work with this piece of wank have been less the fruitful.

>>51073056
Seeing how you're unable to provide one, yes.

>>51073075
>that is cute, though
No, it isn't. She looks plain at best, and too blurry to tell at worst.

305th for I just passed my driving test.

>>51073074
>Where, in yet another BL? Funny how it was ignored just like the Kharn fight.

Again, no proof.

And no page as well. All I see is opinions

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>>51073089

>Despite every Daemon being banished back to the warp / erased from existence, I, a Daemon, will simply disregard this because I made a pinky promise with Senior Topknot.

Fucking brilliant

>>51073088
Psykers don't shit up their guts from Celestine unless they're heretics, then they burn. Celestine represents the warp at its most prohuman, under the control of the emperor.

>>51073097
Try to avoid dangerous terrain if you don't have dozerblades.

>>51073111
Drachy isnt just "a daemon" thou. He is generally more powerful than your average greater daemon of the 4 gods. Which is easily seen on his weaponprofile too. He's a best daemon weapon in the whole game, easily.

>>51073112
>Psykers don't shit up their guts from Celestine
i meant from the pylons.
>Celestine represents the warp at its most prohuman, under the control of the emperor.
which is outweighed by the other emotions and the power of the dark gods reasonably speaking, a strong GD should be able to resist longer than the saint.

>>51073088
In HH Drach was weakened by the Silent Sisters dogpilling it. But it endured and escaped.

The Pylons might be activate but there was enough warp energy to sustain a powerful daemon like drach and teleport Abby with it before the warp was sealed.

>>51073111
Well drach is the daemon of murder after all. And there is a lot of murder happening around him. This may keep him stable.

>>51073110
I just provided proof you retard. Drach'nyen working perfectly, but not with the soul-sucking powers it was stated to have in BL. YOU are the one who tried to justify his argument with opinions like 'the pylons could have done something to weaken the daemon' when nowhere was it stated that Daemon Weapons were affected.

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>Abaddon already won because muh plans, but specifically makes an appearance in order to job before running away like a little bitch

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>>51073126

But he was affected by the null maidens... oh fuck it, I don't care I do Not even mad I'm livid

>>51073144

Sure, why not.

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Guys there's new guard models and rules for Fall of Cadia right? Right?! Please god we need something.

>>51073128
Psykers were getting their shit fucked up. Read the stuff for the first time: greyfax, a psyker, is teetering on the edge of getting her soul sucked up by the void because of the pylons.

You really should try reading the fluff before discussing it.

>>51073163

>He expected something Guard related
>Cadian even

Oh u

>laughing_salad_man.jpg

>>51073149
Actually, it does have soul sucking powers. It was shown in the fight with Eldrad and in the BL suoo where it eats the souls of anyone stabbed by it. In fact, the faces on the sword are the souls that it ate.

The fact that it couldn't eat souls there means it was affected.

And it's not a daemon weapon. It's not a hunk of metal that houses a daemon. Drach body is the sword. his form.

>>51073163
no, but creed didn't die so that's something right?

So why are there some random codices, like Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines, missing in epub form?

>>51073207
They weren't released in epub.

>>51073172
>You really should try reading the fluff before discussing it.
I was asking questions ain't nothing wrong about that.
I generally shy away from end times level lore, this is what it is.
It's usually a load of crap with them trying to sell the answers to mysteries but never doing it well.

>>51072730
GW does realistic women for once.

Fat neckbeards bitch about strong female form as they have never been with a woman before.

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>>51073197
BL supplement as in the Black Legion supp*

>>51073197
This means that celestine has no soul. Like a daemon prince whos soul is replaced with warp stuff when he rolls a double 6 on chaos boons.

>>51073172
>You really should try reading the fluff before discussing it.
Lol why?
Didn't stop the Abbadonfag thinking he was a primarch and then Horus' clone.

Or the inbreeds who think Orks "can do anything they imagine."

>Magnus
>Beats ships with other ships, transfigures GK Grand Master into fool's gold and Nemesis Dreadnought pilot into spawn for lulz
>Has to be banter'd by Khorn to lose
>Abaddon
>Fails to kills two humans that were right in front of him
>Got his ass kicked by a Saint

DW isn't good at this hyping Abaddon thing

>>51073197
If it had those powers he should've sucked out her soul, which he didn't.

If the pylons affected him, at all, he should've been banished. Daemon weapons are not said to be affected and therefore they weren't, this is the only logical explanation.

>Drach'nyen, the End of Empires and the Echo of the First Murder, is an ancient daemon of pure, unadulterated malice currently bound in the daemon sword of the same name wielded by Abaddon the Despoiler.[2]
CSM 3.5 Codex.

If you still using flying hive tyrants in your list you should be fucking shot, that is all.

>>51073244
How does it affect Kastellans then?

>>51073262
the man is a fucking joke by now.
I'd say this was memes becoming real but it could just be their writing styles.
>>51073271
horribly fun

>>51073238
>Fat neckbeards
where do you think you are.

>GW does realistic women for once.
>realistic.
>40k
also
>good thing
anon please

>>51073254
>can do anything they imagine
Isn't that how it works? Aren't they just limited by their lack of imagination and lack of awareness of their warp fuckery?